Kyuss and the first three QOTSA albums are evergreens to me. After Oliveri left the band the music really lost a LA punk/hardcore edge to the otherwise really melodic and groovy sound.. And Josh kinda drifted more into classic rock styles. I don't dislike the new stuff but brother you can't beat Kyuss/first 3 QOTSA albums. EDIT: Also, you can not beat nostalgia. I was the right age at the time.
Welcome Back! 😆My first introduction to QotSA was actually seeing them kick off their Songs For the Deaf tour in Altanta at the Cotton Club ... I had never seen them before! They never topped that album.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Absolutely! I felt so unworthy! My bandmates took me along, convinced me to buy a ticket. I was down on the floor for the first few songs but got lost in the chaos ... I walked upstairs and over to the balcony and someone with a spot just walked away so I snagged it fast! For the rest of the show I had clear view of Dave Grohl just killing it on drums. When my heard that Oliveri was out my bass player told me that Josh just couldn't handle his Keith Moon daredevil destroy the hotel antics. GET ANOTHER HOTEL .. holy hell ... you are so right they could have solved this surely. What I fear however is that it was growing into more and more of a Syd Vicious incident. I recently watched DOA from 1980 and Hype from 1996 ... these are amazing back to back. I think rock finally died in 1995 but zombie culture keeps it alive. 😏
I saw QOTSA back in 2001 in Porth, near Pontypridd. They were on a show called The Pop Factory, filmed in... an old pop factory. I saw them play Lost Art Of Keeping A Secret and Feelgood Hit Of The Summer about 4 times each. Nick did not hold back on the COCAAAAAAAAAINE screams for any of the 4 play-throughs. They were just chiling outside after and i'll always regret not going to say hello. Not many people there knew who they were. The tickets were free too.
Wow, that's insane. Rated R was pretty popular in my 6th form up north that year....basically I knew a few lads who'd have probably killed to be at that gig.
Yep. Like always the pendulum is swinging too hard in rock and metal and the underground is hardcore central or black metal bots right now. So they crave danger but nobody is doing anything original enough to bring in the LIFEBLOOD of rock and metal mainstream: Normies. QOTSA brought normies to the table which is a magnet for talent. No Ace of Spades and perhaps we would never have thrash and black metal etc etc.
Great to see you back, brother!! Really enjoyed the video!! Yeah, I picked up one of those little blue knob Peavey amps just to mic up for the grit on a bass track, blended with a DI. And I agree, Rock has become so safe, It makes me sick.
I think about your commentary on the lack of rock stars, and I find it sad because I feel like Josh is perhaps one of the last true blue rock stars. He cut his teeth as a kid in Kyuss, became a successful songwriter and innovative guitarist, and definitely lived the lifestyle. I will always be a fan, but I have been pretty unimpressed with his recent output. Personally, I think he needs to come back to heaviness and leave the the quirky "skronky" guitar sounds behind.
Great to see you back with your charm and charismaaaaaaaa. It's almost like watching John Hamm. As for QOTSA I've only ever seen them once. For the Rated R tour they were supported by Monster Magnet. Wyndorf was just too good to follow up so we left after the first couple of QOTSA songs.
You‘re obviously right about the missing „danger“ in Rock and Metal. But it’s also totally understandable that big bands kick out crazy people. It’s just not sustainable for a long time. But yeah, the art suffers.
@@RobbDizzl that’s part of the issue. If the band is literally business and nothing else, it’s not a traditional rock genre band. It’s a manufactured boy band with distorted guitars. I don’t think we should ban such things but bands need to understand there is nothing healthy or sensible about people trying to make it in music. They are all damaged; you lose authenticity when you kick out bad people. Convicted felons, ok. But a few fights? Some drugs? Cmon.
@ How many of these kind of people do have in your daily life? Even without the business aspect, no one wants to deal with that. Imagine spending months or years with violent drunks in a van. Them not showing up to the gig when you just want to play. Screw „come on“.
@ I specifically rejected the career: the nature of the business attracts degenerate entrepreneurial types (Lars, Mustaine, Poland, Ellefson, all give us an absolute rogues gallery in just Mustaines career) and I appreciate it’s not easy but the personality who chases the career is a bit mental; look at the hip hop scene for a whole bunch of genuinely dangerous people. But a sensible person is not that keen on such things. I get your response but you are missing Owen’s point - the loss of the Warts is the loss of the Genre.
I mostly agree with what you say about Nick being the missing ingredient: I had to luck to see them live a few times in smallish venues when he was in the band, and indeed after he was kicked out QOTSA went from being one of my favorite bands, to being just "good", to eventually not caring about their newer releases. The part I don't agree with you is when I remember that music and tone-wise, Nick was not involved at all with the making of my second favorite QOTSA album: their self-titled debut (even if he was in the credits). I love the sounds and tunes in that album.
It's occured to me that Oliveri was a specific element that's proven hard to replace.I do like Schuman's style and sound, it is undoubtedly more thoughtful and technical, and less visceral.Troy is slick enough for the whole band. It seems like when bands delete members due to drugs or irrational behavior that they always suffer terribly, and often critically. Something is also missing from FF's,- it's long bothered me trying to put my finger on the missing critical ingredients.Balls might be the simple answer.
It’s kinda funny because the entire issue is simple. The music world thought it voted Democrat, it thought it was rebellion, and the last ten years have proven that it was just a part of someone’s political aspirations. James Hetfield has been wise. He learnt from Jordan. Republicans buy shoes too. The loss of rebellion is a huge thing. Pete Holmes mentioned this on the Right Now podcast (watch it, it’s incredible)… rock and roll used to be the devil, these days you have to have ungodly discipline and talent to be in a metal band. It’s physically not possible for many people to play. And it’s hard even when they can. Rock is now the purview of the same skills as the classical pianist. Virtuosity is the start, not the finish. The lack of cocaine and heroin (and mental illness that goes with heavy users) really holds everything back as well. You medicate hard enough - you will have some issues.
If you REALLY want to go down the rabbit hole a lot of rebel music is propped up by the same lobbyists that profit from for profit prisons, war on drugs profiteering etc. It's not a coincidence that gangster rap etc had better production than Micheal Jackson haha. Greatful Dead, The Doors, Frank Zappa etc were not as organic as we think.
Great video, but I've got to disagree with the Grohl nepotism stuff, he joined the band in September 90 and they didn't start recording the album with Vig until the end of may 91, Dave, Kurt and Krist lived in a tiny apartment together, could barely afford food and if i remember correctly they were kicked out after they finished recording Nevermind because Kurt was living out of his car at the time. They didn't have a huge budget, that's why Vig picked sound city to record at, it was cheap to record at since the studio was going under at the time and wasn't getting any business after a digital studio opened right next to the original studio. Any budget they did get was partly thanks to the success of Sonic Youth who were already on Geffen and Bleach had sold a similar number of records on Sub Pop to Sonic Youths album on Geffen. Big titty goth girl.
Get bent. This is what happens when people get older. They stop writing the shit they did when they were younger. It’s called growth. In Times New Roman is a fucking masterpiece. It’s just as good as any other Queens record.
Let's say what you claim is objectively true: How do some of my videos as a C level guitar youtuber have similar view counts to a lot of the songs on that album? Don't tell me...You are more selective/discerning than the public? You loved Joker 2 right? We just don't get it right?
@@CIRCLEOFTONE UA-cam views have never and will never be a mark of artistic quality and you'd be insane to suggest otherwise. No offense. Nobody bought Pink Moon by Nick Drake and it's still a better piece of art than Joker 1. And of course I'm more discerning than the public. ""The people" listen to Coldplay and voted for the nazis" to quote Peep Show.
Half of it is done. The cool thing is the coal chamber room shape makes full stacks roar. It's not too small and not too square/flat. So I don't get slappy waves etc trebling out everything
While I agree Nick is such an important ingredient in the band, I do think they made great music without him. Like Clockwork is a great album. Also, Joe Strummer was the son of a diplomat. Punk rock has always been like this.
why is it better? simply the record companies back then invested money in having quality music. I.E. these bands all had help crafting their songs to actually sound good. its the people that say NO thats not good. do we honestly think that bands that have 4 or 5 top 10 hits no longer know how to write 1 song that actually sounds good? please.
More eyeballs, more earholes, more memorable, more chanting the riffs, more air drumming etc etc makes it OBJECTIVELY better. There are people trying to be windswept and interesting saying Joker 2 is better but I'm not interested in that.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE whatever. they still cant write a song on their own that people actually want to listen to. not many can. foo fighters, U2 metallica. none of these hit makers can do it in their own garage.
Thought I was going to learn something interesting about Queens and their tone but instead all I got was a rant about how abusing your girlfriend is actually counter-culture and cool because of drugs and rock and roll? Seriously weird video
@@CIRCLEOFTONE You keep stressing the alleged nature of the abuse as a way to avoid acknowledging that you are still defending Oliveri if it did happen. You specifically say in the video even if it did happen 'I don't care' (8:35). Pick a side man and maybe take some personal responsibility for the arguments you're espousing in public. Explain to me again the causal link between abusing your girlfriend, or as you say 'being a rebel', and making good rock music?
Yeah he gives a lot of bluster about not getting on with his dad etc but him, Beck, Sonic Youth etc were all nepo babies larping as counter culture kids.
Jon Jones is a raging homosexual n welcome back, you've lost weight, been going to the gym? I haven't watched one of your videos for a while, think it was the Carcass Heartwork tone or Obituary, seen them last monday at the barrowlands with Sepultura in Glasgow, they sounded better than ever anyways subscribed 👍
I sang this song during a school of rock summercamp as a kid. It was a lot of fun Also, i grow a UA-cam channel to almost 1600 subs since his last upload lol
the post Oliveri era has good albums though what is an absolute snoozefest is the latest two without Castillo (Villains & In Times) (and the caramel sound of the one produced by Ronson is just 🤮 )
Don’t get me wrong. I completely agree with you. (chemistry is real) but isn’t it the natural trajectory for 90+ percent of artists to peak somewhere in their early to mid 30s and then start to go downhill after that? Is that not just the human trajectory?
There will be no 'counter-culture' out of X as it is still a tentacle of the regime as it has always been, you're just observing a power struggle between minor factions. The closer concern for music fans, and those with their heads still in the sand, should be the 'ai' crap that's unrolling, people are falling for it. See the 'Hail Darkness' project as an example.
@@0KT0BER I agree Musk is just another CIA InQtel seeded guy (most billionaires and tech bros are propped up by intelligence agencies). Amazon, Google were also built on CIA money which are just glorified data suckers masked as a service BUT even though Google/youtube was propped up by the CIA there is always a period where they let UA-cam etc go wild west until they dilute it with the bait and switch. I'll take the Good Cop period of X while it's lasts.
If Josh was to continue down the same road he'd be dead. But, yes bring back Nick and Joey and see if sparks fly again. But, it's a lot of business and money. Who can blame them, really. I think the fame and success changed things for sure. But, which band hasn't had the same curve when it comes to quality?
Good to see you again buddy :) That said, Ronnie Radke is a cringy modern fake "tough-guy", I wouldn't put him in the same league as QOTSA. REALLY gutsy to basically advocate for domestic/onstage violence against women on your first video back, especially as a guy with a family. Not sure it'll pan out, man.
Show me proof. I see nothing but gossip. Zero convictions only blah blah gossip. I didn't say I liked the Falling in Reverse music. I said that I like he's a dick. And currently he's not in the same league as QOTSA. His official music videos get 20 times the views of New QOTSA music.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE yea that may be but he's still a cringelord in a teenybopper-metal band that only appeals to similar irritating douchebags. If you hate the on-the-grid soulless stuff he should be your public enemy number 1. IMO that kinda crap ruined metal for good, once the "lookout, I got tattoos and I do cookie monster vocals and pick fights with people weaker than me!" hyper-overproduced stuff was en vogue, I knew it was dead dead dead. All image no songcraft, and the image is LAME! Gas-station-methhead-core.
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Personal opinion. QOTSA are an average band made up of some bad people. As for who cares who Dave Grohl is banging,I'm pretty sure his wife and kids care. Someone can be a rebel without being a shitty person,and being a shitty person does not automatically make someone a rebel. BTW Welcome back.
That's a 2 out of 10 in the debauchery of the music business. I could not care less. If you want to judge and wag fingers at rock stars then it's a slippery slope the The View 😂
hey, CoT, my snarkiness aside: You and I agree that metal needs more creativity, originality, excitement, etc. I just think you're overstressing the value of RR's or other rock stars' extracurricular "bad boy" attitude in order to achieve those things. QotSA just got old and can't write good tunes anymore; It happens to the best of them. 🤷
On the whole I don't agree. I agree that Songs For The Deaf is their best album and the line up that created it was the best QOTSA line up. There is some truth to say an element of danger and chaos is an important part to all art however to say a purer version of Rock N Roll is created by misbehaviour is a crass simplification. Also since Songs For The Deaf QOTSA have changed their sound I'm glad they've experimented and found new ways of presenting their music. It'd be rubbish if they tried to duplicate it 5 times over. Songs like Long Slow Goodbye, 3's & 7's, Negative Space, My God Is the Sun & I Appear Missing all came after and all cut pretty deep. I have to admit though Villains is a shit album and only has about three decent songs on it.
Few thoughts here, largely outside of your points about tone and gear: 1) Firstly, to say Oliveri was kicked out 'for being too rock and roll' (5:45) avoids the core issue at the time which was his alleged physical abuse of his girlfriend. If this is 'too rock and roll' then good riddance to rock and roll. 2) Your points at 6:35 and 8:45 are also very on the nose and are quite blatant in blaming someone for their own alleged abuse. People can like a wild and spontaneous side in their partner and do drugs without wanting to be physically assaulted. You call for her to get some 'personal responsibility' (9:08) while simultaneously dismissing any criticism of Oliveri's documented behaviour as 'rock and roll' and therefore harmless. Where's your call for Oliveri to take personal responsibility? Stick to points about tone and gear man because this is a really outdated and frankly cringe take about what 'rock and roll' is. Abusing your girlfriend won't make the bass tone or your song sound better. 3) This point about Oliveri leaving and hits disappearing (3:50) seems to ignore two of their biggest 'hits' as a band (Little Sister and Make it Wit Chu). Yes I agree that their latest output hasn't been of the same quality / to my taste as their earlier work, but say this is all because of Oliveri's departure is pushing it.
1: "allegedly" has been weaponized. I'm not interested in allegations. Only proof. Allegedly makes 4chan forums and youtube comments turn into gossip circles. 2: Again no abuse was proven. He was released straight away. Did no time. It was overblown IMO. Nobody got to hear his side of it because it wasn't sensational. 3: No One Knows was their biggest hit, come on now.
Things not being ‘proven’ (assuming you mean in court/by law) doesn’t mean that Homme and the band are morally or ethically obliged to keep Oliveri around. People judge by their own standards about what kind of behaviour they’ll accept in their sphere of influence, and it seems that’s what happened. I guess in general I just want to question what I saw as the videos conflation of alleged abuse and ‘rock and roll’ counter-culture. These two things aren’t inherently linked and don’t have to be. Oliveri made great music with Queens but that doesn’t mean all his personal qualities are therefore excusable via the link to his art. Some of the most down to earth people you’ll meet make transgressive and daring art.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Couldn't possibly be that he was released because he was famous? YOU c'mon now. Why is a family man stanning domestic violence so hard? Weird.
@@matturner6890 You think because I have women in my life that they would be dumb enough to expect sunshine and daisies with a degenerate rock star? Who are you to talk about protecting others? You think women are weak and innocent?
We are back baby. 🎉
Kyuss and the first three QOTSA albums are evergreens to me.
After Oliveri left the band the music really lost a LA punk/hardcore edge to the otherwise really melodic and groovy sound.. And Josh kinda drifted more into classic rock styles. I don't dislike the new stuff but brother you can't beat Kyuss/first 3 QOTSA albums.
EDIT: Also, you can not beat nostalgia. I was the right age at the time.
Yeah the 90's was the last period of original music. To be fair I think Queens slower ballads got better.
Great guitar tone is made in context of the group. Great songs are made in the context of a group. Masturbation is being home alone. Circle of tone.
Welcome Back! 😆My first introduction to QotSA was actually seeing them kick off their Songs For the Deaf tour in Altanta at the Cotton Club ... I had never seen them before! They never topped that album.
@@HazeAnderson duuuuude what a great era
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Absolutely! I felt so unworthy! My bandmates took me along, convinced me to buy a ticket. I was down on the floor for the first few songs but got lost in the chaos ... I walked upstairs and over to the balcony and someone with a spot just walked away so I snagged it fast! For the rest of the show I had clear view of Dave Grohl just killing it on drums. When my heard that Oliveri was out my bass player told me that Josh just couldn't handle his Keith Moon daredevil destroy the hotel antics. GET ANOTHER HOTEL .. holy hell ... you are so right they could have solved this surely. What I fear however is that it was growing into more and more of a Syd Vicious incident. I recently watched DOA from 1980 and Hype from 1996 ... these are amazing back to back. I think rock finally died in 1995 but zombie culture keeps it alive. 😏
I saw QOTSA back in 2001 in Porth, near Pontypridd. They were on a show called The Pop Factory, filmed in... an old pop factory. I saw them play Lost Art Of Keeping A Secret and Feelgood Hit Of The Summer about 4 times each. Nick did not hold back on the COCAAAAAAAAAINE screams for any of the 4 play-throughs. They were just chiling outside after and i'll always regret not going to say hello. Not many people there knew who they were.
The tickets were free too.
Damn that's an amazing story.
Wow, that's insane. Rated R was pretty popular in my 6th form up north that year....basically I knew a few lads who'd have probably killed to be at that gig.
Ayeeee welcome back man. Missed your vids
Thanks man
Oh yes.
So good to have you back.
100% agree! We need danger back in R'n'R!!!
Welcome back mate!
Yep. Like always the pendulum is swinging too hard in rock and metal and the underground is hardcore central or black metal bots right now. So they crave danger but nobody is doing anything original enough to bring in the LIFEBLOOD of rock and metal mainstream: Normies. QOTSA brought normies to the table which is a magnet for talent. No Ace of Spades and perhaps we would never have thrash and black metal etc etc.
Welcome back! You're looking and sounding great. The message I have always gotten from this channel is the importance of attitude, and I still agree.
Holy shit, he’s back
Great to see you back, brother!! Really enjoyed the video!! Yeah, I picked up one of those little blue knob Peavey amps just to mic up for the grit on a bass track, blended with a DI. And I agree, Rock has become so safe, It makes me sick.
I am here for all of this. Great video. I paid $4 for my Peavey Decade because the fuse came loose.
Hehe. They are tanks so you got lucky.
Glad to see you back man
I think about your commentary on the lack of rock stars, and I find it sad because I feel like Josh is perhaps one of the last true blue rock stars. He cut his teeth as a kid in Kyuss, became a successful songwriter and innovative guitarist, and definitely lived the lifestyle. I will always be a fan, but I have been pretty unimpressed with his recent output. Personally, I think he needs to come back to heaviness and leave the the quirky "skronky" guitar sounds behind.
Yep. On the flip side i think his sadder more mellow songs got better. Plus age mellows
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I agree. Like Clockwork is a strong album in that regard. The dark ballads feel heartfelt.
Glad you’re back.
New circle of tone video? LETS GOOOOOO! 🎉
welcome back
Oliveri just wrote hits that’s all ☝️ happy to see you making vids again
Great to see you again!
im a musician and i like this dude and i really like what hes talking about cheers
You’re alive. Excellent!
Great to see you back with your charm and charismaaaaaaaa. It's almost like watching John Hamm. As for QOTSA I've only ever seen them once. For the Rated R tour they were supported by Monster Magnet. Wyndorf was just too good to follow up so we left after the first couple of QOTSA songs.
Duuuuude i saw that era of Monster Magnet. What a force they were. The Toast of Orlando
Yo you are back! Congrats on the weigh loss journey you look great my friend!
Thanks man 100 pounds down
great that you back
Sausage bro is back!!!!!!! It’s about time!!!
Peavey seem to get a bad rap but for the hard working musicians they sounded decent and were affordable as well. Haters will hate!
We are so back
You‘re obviously right about the missing „danger“ in Rock and Metal. But it’s also totally understandable that big bands kick out crazy people. It’s just not sustainable for a long time. But yeah, the art suffers.
@@RobbDizzl that’s part of the issue. If the band is literally business and nothing else, it’s not a traditional rock genre band. It’s a manufactured boy band with distorted guitars. I don’t think we should ban such things but bands need to understand there is nothing healthy or sensible about people trying to make it in music. They are all damaged; you lose authenticity when you kick out bad people. Convicted felons, ok. But a few fights? Some drugs? Cmon.
@ How many of these kind of people do have in your daily life? Even without the business aspect, no one wants to deal with that. Imagine spending months or years with violent drunks in a van. Them not showing up to the gig when you just want to play. Screw „come on“.
@ I specifically rejected the career: the nature of the business attracts degenerate entrepreneurial types (Lars, Mustaine, Poland, Ellefson, all give us an absolute rogues gallery in just Mustaines career) and I appreciate it’s not easy but the personality who chases the career is a bit mental; look at the hip hop scene for a whole bunch of genuinely dangerous people. But a sensible person is not that keen on such things.
I get your response but you are missing Owen’s point - the loss of the Warts is the loss of the Genre.
was thinking about you the other day. nice to see you back
Good to see you back! Nick is the secret!! I wish they would get him back
Well done video. QOTSA died after their first LP. Really sad what they became.
Bro welcome back you are missed.
He Lives!
good to see you back 👊
Holy s#$&, dude is back.
Good stuff bro!!!
Welcome back! What have you been up to?bWonder what you got planned to come up
I mostly agree with what you say about Nick being the missing ingredient: I had to luck to see them live a few times in smallish venues when he was in the band, and indeed after he was kicked out QOTSA went from being one of my favorite bands, to being just "good", to eventually not caring about their newer releases. The part I don't agree with you is when I remember that music and tone-wise, Nick was not involved at all with the making of my second favorite QOTSA album: their self-titled debut (even if he was in the credits). I love the sounds and tunes in that album.
Yep on the flip side I think the ballad slower side of Queens got better. But they just lost that oomph imo.
Dingadingadang Gibby and Al set the bar for rock n roll behaviour. Al's autobiography is a hoot.
I can only imagine haha
Where the hell have you been mate. Good to see you’re back and well 😎. Extra points for the Evil Dead Ash shirt.
It's occured to me that Oliveri was a specific element that's proven hard to replace.I do like Schuman's style and sound, it is undoubtedly more thoughtful and technical, and less visceral.Troy is slick enough for the whole band.
It seems like when bands delete members due to drugs or irrational behavior that they always suffer terribly, and often critically.
Something is also missing from FF's,-
it's long bothered me trying to put my finger on the missing critical ingredients.Balls might be the simple answer.
I think the bored world wants to live vicariously through these bands. So it's not just the music when it comes to badassery.
Crazy, he’s back. And yeah team, still grokking the entire band way too close for comfort.
Fk yes. My boy is back
It’s kinda funny because the entire issue is simple. The music world thought it voted Democrat, it thought it was rebellion, and the last ten years have proven that it was just a part of someone’s political aspirations.
James Hetfield has been wise. He learnt from Jordan. Republicans buy shoes too.
The loss of rebellion is a huge thing. Pete Holmes mentioned this on the Right Now podcast (watch it, it’s incredible)… rock and roll used to be the devil, these days you have to have ungodly discipline and talent to be in a metal band. It’s physically not possible for many people to play. And it’s hard even when they can. Rock is now the purview of the same skills as the classical pianist. Virtuosity is the start, not the finish.
The lack of cocaine and heroin (and mental illness that goes with heavy users) really holds everything back as well. You medicate hard enough - you will have some issues.
Absolute gibberish you just typed.
If you REALLY want to go down the rabbit hole a lot of rebel music is propped up by the same lobbyists that profit from for profit prisons, war on drugs profiteering etc. It's not a coincidence that gangster rap etc had better production than Micheal Jackson haha. Greatful Dead, The Doors, Frank Zappa etc were not as organic as we think.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I would agree, and worse, I legitimately think they would not even know they were being pushed. Useful idiots, is the Russian term 😉
@@vincenzonapoles4371 no one is listening to you.
@CIRCLEOFTONE it's called capitalism...
11:32 This man is right about everything.
Great video, but I've got to disagree with the Grohl nepotism stuff, he joined the band in September 90 and they didn't start recording the album with Vig until the end of may 91, Dave, Kurt and Krist lived in a tiny apartment together, could barely afford food and if i remember correctly they were kicked out after they finished recording Nevermind because Kurt was living out of his car at the time. They didn't have a huge budget, that's why Vig picked sound city to record at, it was cheap to record at since the studio was going under at the time and wasn't getting any business after a digital studio opened right next to the original studio. Any budget they did get was partly thanks to the success of Sonic Youth who were already on Geffen and Bleach had sold a similar number of records on Sub Pop to Sonic Youths album on Geffen. Big titty goth girl.
QOTSA fans on internet say they love the last few albums I just need to listen more. No, era - now stinks.
They are the "I loved Joker 2" people 😂
Get bent. This is what happens when people get older. They stop writing the shit they did when they were younger. It’s called growth.
In Times New Roman is a fucking masterpiece. It’s just as good as any other Queens record.
Let's say what you claim is objectively true: How do some of my videos as a C level guitar youtuber have similar view counts to a lot of the songs on that album? Don't tell me...You are more selective/discerning than the public? You loved Joker 2 right? We just don't get it right?
@@CIRCLEOFTONE UA-cam views have never and will never be a mark of artistic quality and you'd be insane to suggest otherwise. No offense. Nobody bought Pink Moon by Nick Drake and it's still a better piece of art than Joker 1. And of course I'm more discerning than the public. ""The people" listen to Coldplay and voted for the nazis" to quote Peep Show.
@@bklmsoul hell yea I stan Pink Moon all day
Nice new studio
Half of it is done. The cool thing is the coal chamber room shape makes full stacks roar. It's not too small and not too square/flat. So I don't get slappy waves etc trebling out everything
Bung. What’s up with our secret band yo?
They got old.
Still a good show, but no where near the level of the SFTD era.
One year and you still can't have proper audio, right? Well, I guess it's good to have you back...
Yeah my audio sucks. I will sort it out once I settle.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I'm sure you will. Glad to see you back, man.
While I agree Nick is such an important ingredient in the band, I do think they made great music without him. Like Clockwork is a great album. Also, Joe Strummer was the son of a diplomat. Punk rock has always been like this.
I do concede the slower songs and ballads got better after Nick left. His songwriting and voice are velvet.
why is it better? simply the record companies back then invested money in having quality music. I.E. these bands all had help crafting their songs to actually sound good. its the people that say NO thats not good. do we honestly think that bands that have 4 or 5 top 10 hits no longer know how to write 1 song that actually sounds good? please.
More eyeballs, more earholes, more memorable, more chanting the riffs, more air drumming etc etc makes it OBJECTIVELY better. There are people trying to be windswept and interesting saying Joker 2 is better but I'm not interested in that.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE whatever. they still cant write a song on their own that people actually want to listen to. not many can. foo fighters, U2 metallica. none of these hit makers can do it in their own garage.
So if Oliveri punched his girlfriend she knew what she was in for? Might want to rethink that one...
Yeah, a lot of weird dog whistles in this video.
Thought I was going to learn something interesting about Queens and their tone but instead all I got was a rant about how abusing your girlfriend is actually counter-culture and cool because of drugs and rock and roll? Seriously weird video
So lame.
You have proof right?
@@CIRCLEOFTONE You keep stressing the alleged nature of the abuse as a way to avoid acknowledging that you are still defending Oliveri if it did happen. You specifically say in the video even if it did happen 'I don't care' (8:35). Pick a side man and maybe take some personal responsibility for the arguments you're espousing in public.
Explain to me again the causal link between abusing your girlfriend, or as you say 'being a rebel', and making good rock music?
Wow, I did not know any of that about Dave Grohl 😮.
Yeah he gives a lot of bluster about not getting on with his dad etc but him, Beck, Sonic Youth etc were all nepo babies larping as counter culture kids.
I agree, it's not as good without Nick.
Jon Jones is a raging homosexual n welcome back, you've lost weight, been going to the gym? I haven't watched one of your videos for a while, think it was the Carcass Heartwork tone or Obituary, seen them last monday at the barrowlands with Sepultura in Glasgow, they sounded better than ever anyways subscribed 👍
Yep I do weights etc. Lost 100 pounds.
@CIRCLEOFTONE Well done mate 👍
I sang this song during a school of rock summercamp as a kid. It was a lot of fun
Also, i grow a UA-cam channel to almost 1600 subs since his last upload lol
I'll race you to 100k
13:31 Henry Rollins - another silver-spoon punk rocker “rebel”
Joe Strummers dad was a politician. Crazy how much of culture is nepo central.
@@CIRCLEOFTONEand Geddy Lee’s parents and Gene Simmons mother were holocaust survivors. Lot of varied history with the greatest musicians.
04:53 I guess Superhans would like the guitar tone! ;)
😂 This crack is a bit moorish is the funniest line I've heard
@@CIRCLEOFTONE next to "People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis, you can't trust people Jeremy!"
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A nice dainty time ☕️
Pinkies up.
They lost Nick's coked out energy and now Josh is off the ice too.
Such a shame Ledley King had his knee issues, what he could have achieved!?
Preach. I was amazed to find out he injured it in his Premier debut as a kid. Wild. It's signed by the man himself.
the post Oliveri era has good albums though
what is an absolute snoozefest is the latest two without Castillo (Villains & In Times)
(and the caramel sound of the one produced by Ronson is just 🤮 )
Don’t get me wrong. I completely agree with you. (chemistry is real) but isn’t it the natural trajectory for 90+ percent of artists to peak somewhere in their early to mid 30s and then start to go downhill after that? Is that not just the human trajectory?
Can’t stand Grohl. Wish could post a meme In yhe comments! Lol. It summed him up perfectly
I hear Josh had his nose cut off in a dispute with an actor over his wife
Sick sick album is one of their best tho
How? Kyuss became Queens. It was ok for a minute but fell off.
Am i rock n roll mr. attack kitten of west side plam springs? No I'm a fat dolphin wearing pink panties.
Like Clockwork is a great album though.
There will be no 'counter-culture' out of X as it is still a tentacle of the regime as it has always been, you're just observing a power struggle between minor factions.
The closer concern for music fans, and those with their heads still in the sand, should be the 'ai' crap that's unrolling, people are falling for it. See the 'Hail Darkness' project as an example.
@@0KT0BER I agree Musk is just another CIA InQtel seeded guy (most billionaires and tech bros are propped up by intelligence agencies). Amazon, Google were also built on CIA money which are just glorified data suckers masked as a service BUT even though Google/youtube was propped up by the CIA there is always a period where they let UA-cam etc go wild west until they dilute it with the bait and switch. I'll take the Good Cop period of X while it's lasts.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Some had no no grace period at all but here we are, some is better than none at all.
Good to have you back doing the tear downs.
How dare you?
2 things... Losing Nick and let Troy being Troy in QOTSA...
If Josh was to continue down the same road he'd be dead. But, yes bring back Nick and Joey and see if sparks fly again. But, it's a lot of business and money. Who can blame them, really. I think the fame and success changed things for sure. But, which band hasn't had the same curve when it comes to quality?
Good to see you again buddy :)
That said, Ronnie Radke is a cringy modern fake "tough-guy", I wouldn't put him in the same league as QOTSA. REALLY gutsy to basically advocate for domestic/onstage violence against women on your first video back, especially as a guy with a family. Not sure it'll pan out, man.
Show me proof. I see nothing but gossip. Zero convictions only blah blah gossip. I didn't say I liked the Falling in Reverse music. I said that I like he's a dick. And currently he's not in the same league as QOTSA. His official music videos get 20 times the views of New QOTSA music.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE yea that may be but he's still a cringelord in a teenybopper-metal band that only appeals to similar irritating douchebags. If you hate the on-the-grid soulless stuff he should be your public enemy number 1.
IMO that kinda crap ruined metal for good, once the "lookout, I got tattoos and I do cookie monster vocals and pick fights with people weaker than me!" hyper-overproduced stuff was en vogue, I knew it was dead dead dead. All image no songcraft, and the image is LAME! Gas-station-methhead-core.
@@matturner6890the DAW killed metal.
Great to have you back, you look great mate, that must have been a lot of dedication, 🔥.
A wonderful overview of how to lose mojo, 👏.
Like deployed 👍
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Hehe. Nicely put
Personal opinion.
QOTSA are an average band made up of some bad people.
As for who cares who Dave Grohl is banging,I'm pretty sure his wife and kids care.
Someone can be a rebel without being a shitty person,and being a shitty person does not automatically make someone a rebel.
BTW Welcome back.
That's a 2 out of 10 in the debauchery of the music business. I could not care less. If you want to judge and wag fingers at rock stars then it's a slippery slope the The View 😂
Bad people? Lmfao
I don't know wtf you are talking about. You want consistency? go listen to AC/DC. QTSA are still putting out bangers.
Some of my videos get as many views as the most recent songs from the last QOTSA album.
Instant click
bro! We missed you!
Did you do time for kicking so much ass?
Asses were kicked. So many assess
Just unsubscribed. Not comfortable with the pause after you talked about a woman being beaten.
Bye
Hahahah
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You can be rock and roll bot not abuse your significant other
Unless he's been convicted I won't grip my pearls.
According to your formula, Ronnie Radke's music must be *amazing*! Which of his riffs are your favorites?
He is bigger than most in modern metal so proves my point.
@CIRCLEOFTONE Aah, modern metal. That's something we think is good? And he's the best at it?
@@CobyBassettok his latest music videos get 20 times the views of new Queens of the Stone Age videos. Is that proof that he's big or not?
@@CIRCLEOFTONE I don't judge the quality of metal by its popularity.
hey, CoT, my snarkiness aside: You and I agree that metal needs more creativity, originality, excitement, etc. I just think you're overstressing the value of RR's or other rock stars' extracurricular "bad boy" attitude in order to achieve those things.
QotSA just got old and can't write good tunes anymore; It happens to the best of them. 🤷
shirtless cringe....otherwise great
It was 95 degrees. This was posted in the summer. I had AC in the old studio.
On the whole I don't agree. I agree that Songs For The Deaf is their best album and the line up that created it was the best QOTSA line up. There is some truth to say an element of danger and chaos is an important part to all art however to say a purer version of Rock N Roll is created by misbehaviour is a crass simplification. Also since Songs For The Deaf QOTSA have changed their sound I'm glad they've experimented and found new ways of presenting their music. It'd be rubbish if they tried to duplicate it 5 times over. Songs like Long Slow Goodbye, 3's & 7's, Negative Space, My God Is the Sun & I Appear Missing all came after and all cut pretty deep. I have to admit though Villains is a shit album and only has about three decent songs on it.
Few thoughts here, largely outside of your points about tone and gear:
1) Firstly, to say Oliveri was kicked out 'for being too rock and roll' (5:45) avoids the core issue at the time which was his alleged physical abuse of his girlfriend. If this is 'too rock and roll' then good riddance to rock and roll.
2) Your points at 6:35 and 8:45 are also very on the nose and are quite blatant in blaming someone for their own alleged abuse. People can like a wild and spontaneous side in their partner and do drugs without wanting to be physically assaulted. You call for her to get some 'personal responsibility' (9:08) while simultaneously dismissing any criticism of Oliveri's documented behaviour as 'rock and roll' and therefore harmless. Where's your call for Oliveri to take personal responsibility?
Stick to points about tone and gear man because this is a really outdated and frankly cringe take about what 'rock and roll' is. Abusing your girlfriend won't make the bass tone or your song sound better.
3) This point about Oliveri leaving and hits disappearing (3:50) seems to ignore two of their biggest 'hits' as a band (Little Sister and Make it Wit Chu). Yes I agree that their latest output hasn't been of the same quality / to my taste as their earlier work, but say this is all because of Oliveri's departure is pushing it.
1: "allegedly" has been weaponized. I'm not interested in allegations. Only proof. Allegedly makes 4chan forums and youtube comments turn into gossip circles.
2: Again no abuse was proven. He was released straight away. Did no time. It was overblown IMO. Nobody got to hear his side of it because it wasn't sensational.
3: No One Knows was their biggest hit, come on now.
Things not being ‘proven’ (assuming you mean in court/by law) doesn’t mean that Homme and the band are morally or ethically obliged to keep Oliveri around. People judge by their own standards about what kind of behaviour they’ll accept in their sphere of influence, and it seems that’s what happened.
I guess in general I just want to question what I saw as the videos conflation of alleged abuse and ‘rock and roll’ counter-culture. These two things aren’t inherently linked and don’t have to be. Oliveri made great music with Queens but that doesn’t mean all his personal qualities are therefore excusable via the link to his art. Some of the most down to earth people you’ll meet make transgressive and daring art.
@@CIRCLEOFTONE Couldn't possibly be that he was released because he was famous? YOU c'mon now. Why is a family man stanning domestic violence so hard? Weird.
@@matturner6890
You think because I have women in my life that they would be dumb enough to expect sunshine and daisies with a degenerate rock star? Who are you to talk about protecting others? You think women are weak and innocent?