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My body is failing because of the years of never taking my foot off the gas. No one cared how big and strong I was back then and now my biggest regret is that I can't do what I want to do anymore. None of this crap is worth it if you want to look and perform your best the remaining 2/3rds of your life
I get compliments every day and random people stop to shake my hand and take pictures of me simply because I’m massive. I just had a blonde girl stop at the grocery store and smile at me all crazy looking. I kept looking behind me wondering what she was looking at then she said wow your arms are amazing! Im 31 and have been on steroids for one year and i can see why this is addictive. I get looks everywhere and when my shirt comes off at the pool or beach all eyes are on me. I have kids come up to me and talk to me and they want to be like me some even ask me about steroids.
Crack is actually fairly conservative as far as street drugs go. It's mostly just old school traditionalist crackheads using it exclusively today. I feel like the "meth of steroids" would be more accurate.
Crack will blow up your heart or if you’re lucky, just give you an ascending aortic aneurysm. The argument that ‘at least it’s not as bad as krokodil’ is ridiculous. I believe if you check, you’ll find directly attributable drug deaths (1990-2013) due to crack far exceeded meth (which mostly drives you crazy and makes your teeth fall out and jaw rot). I think what the good doc is getting at is that, just like crack is like supercharged coke, tren is like supercharged steroids.
I've worked for pharmaceutical manufacturers and maintaining cleanliness, potency, and avoiding contamination is extremely difficult and often there are non-conformances even in well organised companies with copious standard operating procedures and audits who have lavished money on sterile production and laboratory testing. So the idea of injecting something made by a dealer in a kitchen homebrew set-up is the last thing I would ever consider.
Home brewing is really simple and it doesn’t need to be completely sterile because you’re mixing it with benzoyl alcohol and benzoyl benzoate. It’s actually pretty hard to fuck it up.
@@joeprimal2044 it's more about foreign objects and floaters in your gear the body will try to create a barrier of pus around it and eventually the area will become infected I'm talking a microscopic fiber from an item of clothing from your gear fucking you up nothing to do with BA/BB
@@jamesnurgle6368 It doesn’t have to be perfectly sterile. All of the ingredients are by their nature anti microbial. There are literally millions of people doing this with no problem.
@@joeprimal2044 trust me, it can be f'd up and my friends have f'd it up plenty. Use proper hygiene protocols - and I mean PROPER hygiene protocols. Not some bro-science "oh rinse it and it's good" sht. Edit: I legit thought we were talking about homebrewing beer or wine looool.
I had a few mates in the 90's go on peds. They were already in good shape, did 6 months of pre training for ped once they decided to go on them, both did phd level research before hand, cycled somewhat sensibly too. Built up to the hard stuff. Both still fkd their lives up, got violent on the harder stuff, became criminals, and one of them ruined his body and his mind. ( the other one dipped out after a few years and is still heathy and sane, and left the criminal life )
Thanks for this video, young man. Back in 2020, after 26 years away from the gym(51 yrs old), I went to Golds gym. On my first day ( before Covid-19 restrictions kicked in, and I stopped working out again) one of the personal trainers told me about sarms. Please keep in mind it's been decades since I even picked up a dumbbell, so I was clueless about what she was talking about. After a brief explanation, I declined and decided to be natural and tap into my potential without worrying about potential side effects from steroids. . Back during my high school years in the late eighties, quite a few of the athletes I worked out with were using steroids. Even back "roid rage" was commonly known about, but guys wanted to get bigger and stronger, so health be dammed.
My last tren cycle, The big side affect I got was nausea every waking second of the day. Eas a nightmare, felt like I was on a moving boat the entire time it was in me
i tried Anapolon 50mg orals years ago and the nausea within half and hour of taking it was so bad i was heaving with clear saliva running from my mouth just similiar to being very drunk on spirits and puking.
Dude yesterday was my first tren dose ever and the next day I was nauseated feeling like I'm about to throw up, took 4 pills of paracetamol and I was fine
Thank you for a sober, reflective, and realistic perspective on roids. I'm a recent sub but this is exactly why I subbed: a mature and insightful commentary. Nicely done, mate.
I did it a year ago, all my bloodwork is pretty much back to normal and I still have the 10-15 lbs of muscle I put on in 2 months. Stay grinding though.
At only 300 mg test and 150 mg tren-e I got every side effect including brown liquid leaking from my nips. I took prami and caber in order to combat the sides and they turned me into a zombie from extreme lethargy and made my orgasms not feel satisfying, which has been a recurring problem since. I had to stop taking it because I couldn't even get in quality gym sessions with all the side effects. With that said, I was the most shredded I've been. I would never take it again or recommend it though.
Wow using E is rough. Weaker with worse side effects and when you don't like it it's in you so much longer. We all do stupid things brother I wish you a good recovery
Crikey; I wouldn’t care if I was ripped, jacked, yoked, and strong AF, if Tren made my balls shrink, my heart grow, and my nips swell and ‘leak’ fluid…at the first sign of that shit I’d be (like now) just natty and sorta strong.
So like, when are you gonna make a video about your beef with squat university? Cause it's like constant ribbing but never anything specific. Can you please go into the specifics?
Honestly, after my years of training naturally, I got on gear at 29. Test, deca and EQ were my go to's. I tried tren with test at 34. And I can't relate to the extreme sexual impluses, maybe a little more promiscuous, but nothing my wife complained about. My agression was a bit higher as well, but I feel like having the mental maturity is a big benefactor for that compound. Understanding and evaluating your thoughts in the third person on a regular basis after counseling at a young age for anger paid off. The night sweats and insomina however were unreal. The only thing i'll say is the recovery was also unreal. I could get 4hrs of sleep and push through a 14hr day, do a 2hr gym session and keep doing that the length of the cycle (3 months, too long.) it's very intoxicating to stay on with all the big benefits in that way. My cardio was only slightly affected because I had been an endurance athlete long before gear and kept on it. Unfortunatly i'll have to say, will run it again in the near future, but definitely not something I would cruise on year round like test.
Hey Bromley your videos lately have been amazing! I really like that you edit in something to look at while youre talking. It makes it a lot more fun to view them while im force feeding myself in order to increase my poverty bench. That, and the fact that your personality and humor is the best out of all the fitness influencers, makes these videos my go to. Youre the GOAT dude keep it up :)
Not only has the opportunities for bodybuilding type physiques increased, the gene pool has literally more than doubled since 1970, from under 4 billion people to over 8 billion, and a larger percentage of those people have access to nutrition and Healthcare on top of various forme of media and global communications.
whenever I see the word Trenbelone, i always think of it as a cross between a musical instrument and a deli meat.. I'll happily stick to looking like a half chewed caramel and being "natty"
I love your content. One video I watched I thought was a bit off the mark, but I think overall you have a lot of valuable insights. I took some tren and I was lucky to not have obvious side effects, but I did have some issues that I had to resolve with gyno itchiness etc which I have never had with anything else. I had some caber on hand but still.... it is just a question of cost vs benefit. I would say overall the cost and benefit isnt just there, especially for normal people who don't really make any money off being bigger or stronger faster. I have another vial or two there, and I will use that in september and I think never again. At my age, I think I will go for a kind of slightly higher than TRT test level, cycle off , have some anavar from time to time. I use steroids as recreational drugs, I would have to admit. It is just a kind of fun thing - I do like being high testosterone, even if the cost is some occasional low points with zero sex drive. I am 50 years old though. The idea of being stupid like this when 20 years old is just insane. Women don't even like huge people. You can just max out the bench press in some shitty gym and you will be strong enough and muscular enough for any reasonable day to day need. My problem is that I use exercise for mental health, so I like the idea of recovering quickly and doing more. Its stupid. I am an idiot, but life is good almost every day. I wont do tren after this next bunch. Its stupid.
Inability to get proper stuff is the real problem now. Most users are probably still getting underground garbage, at least here in the states. At best what they get is underdosed. But there is also the fact that they use synthetic oils. That's my real issue with that.
On the Tren cough note: I’ve never taken Tren (I’ve bought some and resold it though), but I did a 500 Test-E/600 EQ cycle a few years ago for a bit longer than I should have. I would draw both into the same syringe and inject. On the days where I prepared the syringe the night before, I would cough pretty bad after injecting, but it wouldn’t happen if I injected immediately after drawing. It was weird.
Can I just say, I had this out with the whole revival fitness and the noble natty community, as the noble natties of which I'll admit I side with the most said you can't say everyone is on steroids because you don't know. And while I agree, I think a lot of the noble natties seem to think only a portion of people are on steroids. I'm in the UK and this is just my experience in my small town of which there are around 4 gyms. The first gym, the owner is well known to sell steroids, and from his clientele base, it's very easy to tell that they're on something. The second gym, all the guys who took steroids from the guy who owned the first gym moved there, and guess what, they're all on steroids. The third gym, my gym, i frequently hear the guys in there, talking about their stacks, while deadlifting 320kg and complaining about not being able to engage their lats. The fourth gym is predominantly CrossFit. And all of that's in a small town. No not everyone is on steroids, but a lot of them are. Look at the Olympics, look at the NFL, baseball, MMA, rugby, are people that naive to think they're just natural specimens with diet, good training and elite genetics. They maybe are, but they're also on gear. What rugby player is spending most of his time playing rugby but can bench press olympic records on the side while barely training it at all. Open your eyes. Jesus Christ.
bro the entire video is alexander sitting there watching without saying anything and you can just hear him breating heavily in the background. this is my frist time watching him and i love it😂
Mr. Bromley tells it from one of the biggest hearts (dissynonymous with pathogenic “cardiac hypertrophy”) on the strength scene. Knowledge gained from extensive experience, and delivered with humility, candor, humor and some self-deprecation lodges in the brain for consideration. The hype and fluff of other presenters, some with glossy eye appeal over actual substance, may make me feel enlightened, but fail to cause me to think! Lives and “living” are spared when we seek a more methodical and patient approach to our goals.
I was going to take oral steroids back in the day when I worked at the gym. I was going to do oral steroids because I hate needles but the only reason I didn't was because of the liver side effects. I still want to take steroids but... I mean I feel like I'll die. Also huge respect to you for your honestly and dropping knowledge.
You probably don't it ruins everything for you. Do you get unmotivated when you're weaker than last week? Do you wish you were stronger than before? Well what once was your dedication and hard work is now dictated by your cycle
Life is short just do it, there’s more information out there to do it correctly than before, we’re all dying anyways so make the best of the little time we have
@@Mario-su1jz That’s like saying a lot of drivers report crashing into stuff. Yes, if you don’t do it right you can have problems. Using androgynous testosterone will shut down your own production (messes up your balls ) temporarily, but you don’t need your balls producing testosterone when you’re providing it. And the feeling orgasms and other sexual problems are caused by taking the wrong combination of gear and driving your estrogen and prolactin out of their proper ratios. All of these problems are avoidable, and all of them go away when you stop the gear or get your dosing adjusted. Unless of course you’re an idiot who blasts huge amounts of gear for years and doesn’t do it right. So to sum up, yes, if you don’t know what you’re doing you can have problems, but fortunately if you have problems you can just make adjustments or stop and it’ll all go back to normal. Good luck.
Are you ever planning on making another strongman program? Im running fullsterkur but I DO have the implements for the events, I think it may be a good market as there’s really not a lot of good strongman programs (or many programs at all for that matter).
Tren cough is from prostaglandins when you get some in a vein 100% very similar to anaphylaxis coming on (but without the death part!) I've experienced both!
I used Tren at 150-200mg a week with Test at 600 for a couple years! I looked great but would literally get out of breath and start sweating tying my shoes or going up a single flight of stairs. lol I wouldn't use that compound again.
I always wanted to ask guys that do a few cycles, for a few years, "Do you kinda start all the way back from the beginning? And to what degree can you, go OFF gear and still train and eat to keep the gains. It's that downward slope, is it a slip, or a step down?
A "friend of mine" has been on Tren-A, 100 MG every other day, along with 700mg of test per week. Only eating 1750 Cals per day. Gaining muscle and losing fat weekly. Absolutely zero side effects so far after about 4 weeks.
Acne is usually caused by estrogen either high or low,, and is usually triggered by the change in dose and not the dose itself. Going on something or coming off. Once your settled in it usually goes away. But with tren adding sweat you for sure want to shower at least twice a day, change sheets regularly and sanitize workout benches regularly to keep bacteria down.
I'm sorry but while I admire the less is best mantra and what not. The nuanced question which seems to be careful avoided or skillfully dodged by a lot of pros usually isn't whether you're running more than 1.5g/week currently. It is "Up to what dosages were run to get to that size?" You can maintain on 1g or 1.5g and even make incremental progress slowly year by year. But when the pros pushed from 210lbs to 300lbs and what not, was it still around or less than the 1.5g quoted ie. Physique to Open Class/Super Heavy/Mass Monster. That's where I feel more nuance regarding the belief of people around pro using more than quoted amounts is.
I remember back in 94 a friend got a few of us primobolin but because it was amples after about 3 weeks incredible size and strength which primo never did that I looked at the ample in light and it was actually Parabolan! I would of never used it if I knew! Always examine what you get to make sure!
@@PumpedAntics Yeah, called my friend because we were all breaking records in the gym and told him he needs to read the amples closely! Thank God I caught it ! Definitely not close to what primobolin does! He continued using it, I decided to taper off but wow what a powerful hormone it is!
@@DG-nb6fe Yeah! and out of all 3 of us that got it, I was the only one that actually caught on to what it was! I knew something wasn't right all 3 of us were breaking records in the gym!
19:30 I wonder who was that strongman from UK specialising in deadlift that allegedly took 2grams of tren per week 🤔 and if his surname rhymes with "mall"?
Great vid Alex. I consider my self lucky that during my competitive/ heavier use years, tren hadn't quite reached the mythic status it has today. My only experiences were a couple of runs with some Finaplex I mixed up with a conversion kit at a pretty moderate dosage, and it was definitely the only drug the I could self identify that mood and personality effects were visible. Between those sides, the hassle of mixing it up, and a general mistrust of the veracity(and excessive price at the time) of tren that was starting to pop up from u.g. labs, I just didn't find it worth all that.
Probably THE ONE fitness channel that I depend on for OVERALL information. I hope Bromley knows his RAW delivery of information is one of one on UA-cam. Most just copy and paste.
I train at a student gym, just the gym I went to in uni and I’ve stuck around for another year. And the amount of kids who openly admit to using gear is so sad. There is one kid who we know is on annavar, he has only been training about a year and can only bench 90kg, squat 110 and deadlift 120 and he is already slamming roids. Another kid can’t even deadlift 140kg and we know he injects testosterone. It’s so depressing, they’re putting there health and lives at risk for lifts that are easily achievable naturally
As an aside, soldier in actual combat are 100% coked or drugged out of their mind in some way. There is no reason not to take drugs if your life depends on your reaction time in that moment
Wait... a guy in the IPF was blasting tren year round? PS I've been going to gyms for 20 years in various countries and cities and never been offered steroids. Do you have to ask people or do they usually offer?
It’s not illegal to possess in the UK but selling is, that being said if you were to lose £30 pounds in my house and you took a little glass val with an unknown liquid, then no one minds.
I don't want to downplay the risks too much but I'd say both the risks and results of tren are massively overblown in this video. The only notable side effects I've gotten from it are GERD and systemic inflammation (obviously different for different people, though). No mental sides, no substantial impact on my lipids, no acne, no gyno, etc. However, I never got these "mythical" results from it. It was pretty mediocre. I got far more strength and size from testosterone, oxandrolone, and GH while not getting GERD or inflammation from these two.
My experience: i got pretty bulky naturally over the last 4 years with home gym stuff, no drugs used. Attention i get is only from children or gym bros in the wild. Both make me uncomfortable. Im not an antisocial weirdo or anything. I just keep sh!t to myself
Trenb75mg EOD 6 weeks max, 12 weeks off. Don't judt stay in it forever more . Tren isn't like test you just cant keep on and on. Don't be ruled by the results, but rule the results.
Never did Tren, never will. BUT Test makes me sweat, bad. I have used most AAS but for some reason, I cannot tolerate higher doses of test. Even my TRT dose is like 60mg/week (in four 15mg shots) I started on 200mg and could barely sleep. But I can handle Nandrolone (prefer NPP) better than most... unless during a relationship lol I told myself no tren, no HGH, and no insulin. Also no orals except Anavar. I have been able to stick with that. I'm good with on low dose test TRT/HCG and about 300mg NPP/week when I wanna bulk a bit.
Hi @AlexanderBromley. I have question about BaseStrength AI: due to lower back issue (not related to sport: I have accident 10 Years ago) I need to replace OHP & Standing Dumbbell Press with seated smith press and seated Dumbbell Press. Is it possible to make such exercises swap in BaseStrength AI application?
I haven't dead, squat, benched in 6 years. Would crash under 315 (at bottom), where I could not lift off ground, weak. I practice law. But this channel is good. Good sign. Good cut of jib.
@@WALTAH2000 psychological effects vary with person and dose. Pilkie isn’t entirely foolhardy to think about using it for that. A little bit of tren can open your eyes to bullshit in both other people and yourself. It can however easily go too far and make you paranoid and damage relationships. But if you gave a simp a little tren for a few weeks you would likely cure him. On Tren you don’t put people on pedestals. Tren tends to cure people of being followers, and if you’re willing to look in the mirror it can cure you of your weaknesses , self deception and excuses too. But don’t listen to the doses you hear experienced gym rats throw around. 20mg every other day, so 60mg a week is a lot for some people to start. And you need a test base and p5p or Cabergoline to control prolactin and primo, Masteron and/ or aromisin possibly to control estrogen. It’s complicated to do it right. Good luck.
A lot of people can taste injected substances. Especially IV. There are tons of little capillaries in your lungs and maybe that's why. I don't know for sure but it would make sense for something that was more aggressive to actually cause coughing.
I've never taken nor do I have a desire to take steroids but I find these videos very interesting. It makes me laugh when I hear influencers state "I don't even know about steroids" with a straight face these days. That excuse is the most obvious tell that you're a fake natty in the current world of information.
Just because there's information out there doesn't mean everyone has the desire to seek it. If someone's a natural and has absolutely no intentions of using steroids then it's within reason that they wouldn't know all the different types and how exactly they work.
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I always take advice from drug addicts who think they are alpha males, but really they just follow every rule ever presented to them from authorities.
Buddy you breathe so loud I can hear how clogged your sinuses are
roids are just as commen as weed
alex has been dropping so much heat from his goon cave recently, big ups
His creative juices are flowing
😂😂😂
Lmao
adhd medicine go brrr
When people think chronic porn addiction is a joke. God I hate this new trend of instagram jokes.
My body is failing because of the years of never taking my foot off the gas. No one cared how big and strong I was back then and now my biggest regret is that I can't do what I want to do anymore. None of this crap is worth it if you want to look and perform your best the remaining 2/3rds of your life
Damn
How do you feel your body failing you?
Damn man what happened ?
I get compliments every day and random people stop to shake my hand and take pictures of me simply because I’m massive. I just had a blonde girl stop at the grocery store and smile at me all crazy looking. I kept looking behind me wondering what she was looking at then she said wow your arms are amazing!
Im 31 and have been on steroids for one year and i can see why this is addictive. I get looks everywhere and when my shirt comes off at the pool or beach all eyes are on me. I have kids come up to me and talk to me and they want to be like me some even ask me about steroids.
@richie: true story bro 😂
Another interesting fact about tren is that Mike O'Hearn's testicles naturally produce it.
Now that was funny! Have a great night.
I love Mike, but that is a good one.
Lol! Great post going around this forum today.
Hahahahaahahaah
Damn😂
I’m glad I just lift weights for health/fun at home.
What a beautiful intro noise, really reminded me of the noise I made when I deadlifted 45lbs after only 2 years of training 🗿😤
Dad noises are real.
They are😂
Crack is actually fairly conservative as far as street drugs go. It's mostly just old school traditionalist crackheads using it exclusively today. I feel like the "meth of steroids" would be more accurate.
lmao hipster druggies on the streets
It really nails the paranoia and insomnia, too
“Old school traditionalist crackheads”
Incredible phrase
Crack will blow up your heart or if you’re lucky, just give you an ascending aortic aneurysm. The argument that ‘at least it’s not as bad as krokodil’ is ridiculous. I believe if you check, you’ll find directly attributable drug deaths (1990-2013) due to crack far exceeded meth (which mostly drives you crazy and makes your teeth fall out and jaw rot). I think what the good doc is getting at is that, just like crack is like supercharged coke, tren is like supercharged steroids.
@@davidec.4021 Crack connoisseurs if you will.
Hearing Bromley's nose whistle as he breathes really helps me envision resting my head on his chest at night. Tuck me in daddy, let's get these gains
Bro?
When you see me reacting with my mouth hanging open, you know it was this comment
Wtf bro AHAHA
Would
I found this comment to be horrifying and also relieving, because I kept pausing the video to see if it was Bromley or my big ass.😅
I've worked for pharmaceutical manufacturers and maintaining cleanliness, potency, and avoiding contamination is extremely difficult and often there are non-conformances even in well organised companies with copious standard operating procedures and audits who have lavished money on sterile production and laboratory testing. So the idea of injecting something made by a dealer in a kitchen homebrew set-up is the last thing I would ever consider.
Home brewing is really simple and it doesn’t need to be completely sterile because you’re mixing it with benzoyl alcohol and benzoyl benzoate. It’s actually pretty hard to fuck it up.
@@joeprimal2044 it's more about foreign objects and floaters in your gear the body will try to create a barrier of pus around it and eventually the area will become infected I'm talking a microscopic fiber from an item of clothing from your gear fucking you up nothing to do with BA/BB
even keeping things sterile enough to poke a sterilised grain bag to grow mushrooms without contamination is hard.
@@jamesnurgle6368 It doesn’t have to be perfectly sterile. All of the ingredients are by their nature anti microbial. There are literally millions of people doing this with no problem.
@@joeprimal2044 trust me, it can be f'd up and my friends have f'd it up plenty. Use proper hygiene protocols - and I mean PROPER hygiene protocols. Not some bro-science "oh rinse it and it's good" sht. Edit: I legit thought we were talking about homebrewing beer or wine looool.
I’ll stay natty ✅
Me too. Live long and prosper!
…..Me three!
I’m proud of my strength i feel more super human!
Good for you, stay small & weak..
Yeah. I’m 64 and as strong as a lot of the cheaters. I like knowing it’s me, and not dope.
@@onerider808 ain’t got nothin against the freedom of others but it’s definitely a badge of honor ….specially nowadays 💪🏼
“Cattle drugs baby.” Lol
Dr Chris is one of the best medical content creators on the platform
I had a few mates in the 90's go on peds. They were already in good shape, did 6 months of pre training for ped once they decided to go on them, both did phd level research before hand, cycled somewhat sensibly too. Built up to the hard stuff.
Both still fkd their lives up, got violent on the harder stuff, became criminals, and one of them ruined his body and his mind.
( the other one dipped out after a few years and is still heathy and sane, and left the criminal life )
Psychiatrist: "How many times did you consider taking tren while watching this video?"
Me: "Yes."
Babe wake up, another tren video dropped
If the tren twins were the coke twins it'd feel very different and probably be a TLC show
I remember them saying they don’t even take tren they just liked the name lol idk if that’s changed tho
@@mattbattaglia4694 there was a video some months back where they were describing their cycle and a tren dosage was mentioned.
@@zerrodefex yeah very shortly after making this comment I watched one of their newest videos and they were like "is it too early to go on tren" lol
Thanks for this video, young man. Back in 2020, after 26 years away from the gym(51 yrs old), I went to Golds gym. On my first day ( before Covid-19 restrictions kicked in, and I stopped working out again) one of the personal trainers told me about sarms. Please keep in mind it's been decades since I even picked up a dumbbell, so I was clueless about what she was talking about. After a brief explanation, I declined and decided to be natural and tap into my potential without worrying about potential side effects from steroids. . Back during my high school years in the late eighties, quite a few of the athletes I worked out with were using steroids. Even back "roid rage" was commonly known about, but guys wanted to get bigger and stronger, so health be dammed.
I called a fitness lab to see someone about TRT and the guy offered me HGH lol.
My last tren cycle, The big side affect I got was nausea every waking second of the day. Eas a nightmare, felt like I was on a moving boat the entire time it was in me
I think you should take a look at your blood pressure
That’s weird. I agree BP is a place to look, but when something like that starts happening, back off the dose immediately. Listen to your body bro.
i tried Anapolon 50mg orals years ago and the nausea within half and hour of taking it was so bad i was heaving with clear saliva running from my mouth just similiar to being very drunk on spirits and puking.
@SuperCanuck777 jeeez. Remind me to never go near anapolon then 😂
Dude yesterday was my first tren dose ever and the next day I was nauseated feeling like I'm about to throw up, took 4 pills of paracetamol and I was fine
Thank you for a sober, reflective, and realistic perspective on roids. I'm a recent sub but this is exactly why I subbed: a mature and insightful commentary.
Nicely done, mate.
I like Dr. Chris Raynor’s videos
Your inflammation and cortisol hypothesis about love handles was very interesting. Def onto something there
It turns out Mike O' Hearn was just a bottle of Tren disguised as a person....
I did it a year ago, all my bloodwork is pretty much back to normal and I still have the 10-15 lbs of muscle I put on in 2 months. Stay grinding though.
At only 300 mg test and 150 mg tren-e I got every side effect including brown liquid leaking from my nips. I took prami and caber in order to combat the sides and they turned me into a zombie from extreme lethargy and made my orgasms not feel satisfying, which has been a recurring problem since. I had to stop taking it because I couldn't even get in quality gym sessions with all the side effects. With that said, I was the most shredded I've been. I would never take it again or recommend it though.
Supposed to run Tren higher than test since it’s 3x stronger.
Wow using E is rough. Weaker with worse side effects and when you don't like it it's in you so much longer. We all do stupid things brother I wish you a good recovery
Always insist on quality tren, bathtub doesn't cut it, you greatly increase your chances of getting side effects.
Crikey; I wouldn’t care if I was ripped, jacked, yoked, and strong AF, if Tren made my balls shrink, my heart grow, and my nips swell and ‘leak’ fluid…at the first sign of that shit I’d be (like now) just natty and sorta strong.
@@xxx0ox0 Worse sides than what, acetate? I find that hard to believe. The ester is very unlikely to determine intensity of sides.
We called it Phena 25 years ago. Around 2008 the kids started calling it Tren from the name of its active ingredient.
Yeah, we made it from Finaplix cattle implants... The guys before us called it Parabolan.
Finaplex! That’s the name I remember! And Fina cough!
O M G! Make you feel like your about to cough a lung up!
The breathing gets me😂
I'm listening to this while getting my steps in.
So like, when are you gonna make a video about your beef with squat university? Cause it's like constant ribbing but never anything specific. Can you please go into the specifics?
Bc they love dogma
omg the realest background. Finally! A UA-camr I can relate to lol
Honestly, after my years of training naturally, I got on gear at 29. Test, deca and EQ were my go to's. I tried tren with test at 34. And I can't relate to the extreme sexual impluses, maybe a little more promiscuous, but nothing my wife complained about. My agression was a bit higher as well, but I feel like having the mental maturity is a big benefactor for that compound. Understanding and evaluating your thoughts in the third person on a regular basis after counseling at a young age for anger paid off.
The night sweats and insomina however were unreal. The only thing i'll say is the recovery was also unreal. I could get 4hrs of sleep and push through a 14hr day, do a 2hr gym session and keep doing that the length of the cycle (3 months, too long.) it's very intoxicating to stay on with all the big benefits in that way. My cardio was only slightly affected because I had been an endurance athlete long before gear and kept on it.
Unfortunatly i'll have to say, will run it again in the near future, but definitely not something I would cruise on year round like test.
i just did that today and i'm a premenopausal 33 yo
Hey Bromley your videos lately have been amazing! I really like that you edit in something to look at while youre talking. It makes it a lot more fun to view them while im force feeding myself in order to increase my poverty bench. That, and the fact that your personality and humor is the best out of all the fitness influencers, makes these videos my go to. Youre the GOAT dude keep it up :)
And don't forget to mention you crushed your dead lift session in your jean. Perfect
Not only has the opportunities for bodybuilding type physiques increased, the gene pool has literally more than doubled since 1970, from under 4 billion people to over 8 billion, and a larger percentage of those people have access to nutrition and Healthcare on top of various forme of media and global communications.
whenever I see the word Trenbelone, i always think of it as a cross between a musical instrument and a deli meat.. I'll happily stick to looking like a half chewed caramel and being "natty"
I love your content. One video I watched I thought was a bit off the mark, but I think overall you have a lot of valuable insights. I took some tren and I was lucky to not have obvious side effects, but I did have some issues that I had to resolve with gyno itchiness etc which I have never had with anything else. I had some caber on hand but still.... it is just a question of cost vs benefit. I would say overall the cost and benefit isnt just there, especially for normal people who don't really make any money off being bigger or stronger faster. I have another vial or two there, and I will use that in september and I think never again. At my age, I think I will go for a kind of slightly higher than TRT test level, cycle off , have some anavar from time to time. I use steroids as recreational drugs, I would have to admit. It is just a kind of fun thing - I do like being high testosterone, even if the cost is some occasional low points with zero sex drive. I am 50 years old though. The idea of being stupid like this when 20 years old is just insane. Women don't even like huge people. You can just max out the bench press in some shitty gym and you will be strong enough and muscular enough for any reasonable day to day need. My problem is that I use exercise for mental health, so I like the idea of recovering quickly and doing more. Its stupid. I am an idiot, but life is good almost every day. I wont do tren after this next bunch. Its stupid.
Inability to get proper stuff is the real problem now. Most users are probably still getting underground garbage, at least here in the states.
At best what they get is underdosed. But there is also the fact that they use synthetic oils. That's my real issue with that.
On the Tren cough note: I’ve never taken Tren (I’ve bought some and resold it though), but I did a 500 Test-E/600 EQ cycle a few years ago for a bit longer than I should have.
I would draw both into the same syringe and inject. On the days where I prepared the syringe the night before, I would cough pretty bad after injecting, but it wouldn’t happen if I injected immediately after drawing.
It was weird.
Love the content. Are you going to do a video of other compounds?
The acne. Never gotten acne my whole life. Got a crazy horrible back and should acne after just few weeks of use.
Can I just say, I had this out with the whole revival fitness and the noble natty community, as the noble natties of which I'll admit I side with the most said you can't say everyone is on steroids because you don't know.
And while I agree, I think a lot of the noble natties seem to think only a portion of people are on steroids.
I'm in the UK and this is just my experience in my small town of which there are around 4 gyms.
The first gym, the owner is well known to sell steroids, and from his clientele base, it's very easy to tell that they're on something.
The second gym, all the guys who took steroids from the guy who owned the first gym moved there, and guess what, they're all on steroids.
The third gym, my gym, i frequently hear the guys in there, talking about their stacks, while deadlifting 320kg and complaining about not being able to engage their lats.
The fourth gym is predominantly CrossFit.
And all of that's in a small town.
No not everyone is on steroids, but a lot of them are.
Look at the Olympics, look at the NFL, baseball, MMA, rugby, are people that naive to think they're just natural specimens with diet, good training and elite genetics.
They maybe are, but they're also on gear.
What rugby player is spending most of his time playing rugby but can bench press olympic records on the side while barely training it at all.
Open your eyes. Jesus Christ.
bro the entire video is alexander sitting there watching without saying anything and you can just hear him breating heavily in the background. this is my frist time watching him and i love it😂
Alex Trenley in the thumbnail
Mr. Bromley tells it from one of the biggest hearts (dissynonymous with pathogenic “cardiac hypertrophy”) on the strength scene. Knowledge gained from extensive experience, and delivered with humility, candor, humor and some self-deprecation lodges in the brain for consideration. The hype and fluff of other presenters, some with glossy eye appeal over actual substance, may make me feel enlightened, but fail to cause me to think!
Lives and “living” are spared when we seek a more methodical and patient approach to our goals.
I was going to take oral steroids back in the day when I worked at the gym. I was going to do oral steroids because I hate needles but the only reason I didn't was because of the liver side effects. I still want to take steroids but... I mean I feel like I'll die. Also huge respect to you for your honestly and dropping knowledge.
You probably don't it ruins everything for you. Do you get unmotivated when you're weaker than last week? Do you wish you were stronger than before? Well what once was your dedication and hard work is now dictated by your cycle
Also messes up your balls. A lot of users report not feeling orgasms.
Life is short just do it, there’s more information out there to do it correctly than before, we’re all dying anyways so make the best of the little time we have
@@Mario-su1jz That’s like saying a lot of drivers report crashing into stuff. Yes, if you don’t do it right you can have problems. Using androgynous testosterone will shut down your own production (messes up your balls ) temporarily, but you don’t need your balls producing testosterone when you’re providing it. And the feeling orgasms and other sexual problems are caused by taking the wrong combination of gear and driving your estrogen and prolactin out of their proper ratios.
All of these problems are avoidable, and all of them go away when you stop the gear or get your dosing adjusted. Unless of course you’re an idiot who blasts huge amounts of gear for years and doesn’t do it right. So to sum up, yes, if you don’t know what you’re doing you can have problems, but fortunately if you have problems you can just make adjustments or stop and it’ll all go back to normal. Good luck.
@@bellapoolstfu stop influencing newcomers to this shit
The word "tren" seems to be a catch all term for the zoomers.
At least a few of them seem to think it means "roids" in general.
Turned into such a meme, just hop on tren bro, that your right it's the new term to these newbies
Bromley, I was listening to you breath the whole video.
The nasal breathing in the background is iconic 🤣😭
Even talk of gear makes me anxious. Hell, if coffee makes me paranoid, I don’t think gear is for me. Haha.
2:22 🤣🤣🤣
A wild Omni man has appeared
Mr Paris
Are you ever planning on making another strongman program? Im running fullsterkur but I DO have the implements for the events, I think it may be a good market as there’s really not a lot of good strongman programs (or many programs at all for that matter).
I like this type of content! Nice work!
Tren cough is from prostaglandins when you get some in a vein 100% very similar to anaphylaxis coming on (but without the death part!) I've experienced both!
Full series of these please!
I used Tren at 150-200mg a week with Test at 600 for a couple years! I looked great but would literally get out of breath and start sweating tying my shoes or going up a single flight of stairs. lol
I wouldn't use that compound again.
So if Trenbolone is no longer commercial isn't most of it, if not all, with synthetic oils?
That's so weird, I never got rage. I got super relaxed and kept pulling pranks
I always wanted to ask guys that do a few cycles, for a few years, "Do you kinda start all the way back from the beginning? And to what degree can you, go OFF gear and still train and eat to keep the gains. It's that downward slope, is it a slip, or a step down?
A "friend of mine" has been on Tren-A, 100 MG every other day, along with 700mg of test per week. Only eating 1750 Cals per day. Gaining muscle and losing fat weekly. Absolutely zero side effects so far after about 4 weeks.
You don't live with your friend do you? Cause if not you don't know what sides he goes through 😂
@@neomt2 we're pretty much inseparable😈
@@INFJason lol
@@neomt2”friend” 😝
He’s obviously got some stories. Who’s the strongman he was talking about , the 2010s, was always injured?
Ran tren hex low dose, started getting acne and stopped.
Acne is usually caused by estrogen either high or low,, and is usually triggered by the change in dose and not the dose itself. Going on something or coming off. Once your settled in it usually goes away. But with tren adding sweat you for sure want to shower at least twice a day, change sheets regularly and sanitize workout benches regularly to keep bacteria down.
I'm sorry but while I admire the less is best mantra and what not. The nuanced question which seems to be careful avoided or skillfully dodged by a lot of pros usually isn't whether you're running more than 1.5g/week currently. It is "Up to what dosages were run to get to that size?"
You can maintain on 1g or 1.5g and even make incremental progress slowly year by year. But when the pros pushed from 210lbs to 300lbs and what not, was it still around or less than the 1.5g quoted ie. Physique to Open Class/Super Heavy/Mass Monster.
That's where I feel more nuance regarding the belief of people around pro using more than quoted amounts is.
I prefer masteron over primo. As for tren 150mg a week max. Jesus remembers the pellets for cattle where 76mg
Unless I could make a ton of money I wouldn't bother
I remember back in 94 a friend got a few of us primobolin but because it was amples after about 3 weeks incredible size and strength which primo never did that I looked at the ample in light and it was actually Parabolan! I would of never used it if I knew! Always examine what you get to make sure!
Lol that’s hilarious
@@PumpedAntics Yeah, called my friend because we were all breaking records in the gym and told him he needs to read the amples closely! Thank God I caught it ! Definitely not close to what primobolin does! He continued using it, I decided to taper off but wow what a powerful hormone it is!
Were you injecting under the cover of darkness
Pharmaceutical grade Para? Shit you were blessed not cursed! 3 amps of that week is the bomb!
@@DG-nb6fe Yeah! and out of all 3 of us that got it, I was the only one that actually caught on to what it was! I knew something wasn't right all 3 of us were breaking records in the gym!
Great video. Very informative and entertaining. 🙏🙏💪💪
19:30 I wonder who was that strongman from UK specialising in deadlift that allegedly took 2grams of tren per week 🤔 and if his surname rhymes with "mall"?
Powerlifters and top tier bodybuilders use 6-10 grams week. 4-5 grams testosterone as a base.
Great vid Alex. I consider my self lucky that during my competitive/ heavier use years, tren hadn't quite reached the mythic status it has today. My only experiences were a couple of runs with some Finaplex I mixed up with a conversion kit at a pretty moderate dosage, and it was definitely the only drug the I could self identify that mood and personality effects were visible. Between those sides, the hassle of mixing it up, and a general mistrust of the veracity(and excessive price at the time) of tren that was starting to pop up from u.g. labs, I just didn't find it worth all that.
Shirts look 🔥🔥🔥
Probably THE ONE fitness channel that I depend on for OVERALL information. I hope Bromley knows his RAW delivery of information is one of one on UA-cam. Most just copy and paste.
I train at a student gym, just the gym I went to in uni and I’ve stuck around for another year. And the amount of kids who openly admit to using gear is so sad.
There is one kid who we know is on annavar, he has only been training about a year and can only bench 90kg, squat 110 and deadlift 120 and he is already slamming roids. Another kid can’t even deadlift 140kg and we know he injects testosterone. It’s so depressing, they’re putting there health and lives at risk for lifts that are easily achievable naturally
why are people pretending that there was no deca and winstrol in the early 2000s?
We gonna talk about how at a little after 19:40 he is very obviously talking about Eddie Hall?
the 80s punk reference and the fern gully reference got me to subscribe.
Whats a legit enough way of ordering it?
As an aside, soldier in actual combat are 100% coked or drugged out of their mind in some way. There is no reason not to take drugs if your life depends on your reaction time in that moment
Wait... a guy in the IPF was blasting tren year round?
PS
I've been going to gyms for 20 years in various countries and cities and never been offered steroids. Do you have to ask people or do they
usually offer?
Lol even "drug tested" federation's are super easy to beat
It’s not illegal to possess in the UK but selling is, that being said if you were to lose £30 pounds in my house and you took a little glass val with an unknown liquid, then no one minds.
Just want to add that I don’t make or do drug.
I don't want to downplay the risks too much but I'd say both the risks and results of tren are massively overblown in this video.
The only notable side effects I've gotten from it are GERD and systemic inflammation (obviously different for different people, though). No mental sides, no substantial impact on my lipids, no acne, no gyno, etc.
However, I never got these "mythical" results from it. It was pretty mediocre. I got far more strength and size from testosterone, oxandrolone, and GH while not getting GERD or inflammation from these two.
My experience: i got pretty bulky naturally over the last 4 years with home gym stuff, no drugs used. Attention i get is only from children or gym bros in the wild.
Both make me uncomfortable.
Im not an antisocial weirdo or anything. I just keep sh!t to myself
keep going up your social max
Trenb75mg EOD 6 weeks max, 12 weeks off. Don't judt stay in it forever more . Tren isn't like test you just cant keep on and on. Don't be ruled by the results, but rule the results.
YellowJackets is an excellent show 👌🏻 great taste in visual media
Never did Tren, never will. BUT Test makes me sweat, bad. I have used most AAS but for some reason, I cannot tolerate higher doses of test. Even my TRT dose is like 60mg/week (in four 15mg shots) I started on 200mg and could barely sleep. But I can handle Nandrolone (prefer NPP) better than most... unless during a relationship lol
I told myself no tren, no HGH, and no insulin. Also no orals except Anavar. I have been able to stick with that. I'm good with on low dose test TRT/HCG and about 300mg NPP/week when I wanna bulk a bit.
Hi @AlexanderBromley.
I have question about BaseStrength AI: due to lower back issue (not related to sport: I have accident 10 Years ago) I need to replace OHP & Standing Dumbbell Press with seated smith press and seated Dumbbell Press. Is it possible to make such exercises swap in BaseStrength AI application?
Sounds like you don't have a choice but swap similar exercise in due to injury
Alex knows all about them tren-baloney sandwiches and dball cocktails
The fascinating thing to me is the fact that it was used to improve libido, weight, and appetite in cattle before they were slaughtered.
Since when did Denzel Washington become a tren expert..
I haven't dead, squat, benched in 6 years. Would crash under 315 (at bottom), where I could not lift off ground, weak. I practice law. But this channel is good. Good sign. Good cut of jib.
You getting on tren then?
@@PumpedAntics no idea what that means but it it means carbs and salt, I am pisarenko.
Y u breathing so heavy ur sitting down lad jesus
2:21 that imitation caught me off guard lmao that was hilarious!
Phil Heath said something akin to tren being an unstable molecule, maybe they need to put more oil in or a different type of oil to stabilize it?
Thats not how it works
Tren is my early retirement plan lol
I'm thinking of hopping on tren just for the psychological effects
You want depression and anxiety? Lol
Lol, maybe just eat some nightshade or belladonna and spare your heart snd balls
@@WALTAH2000if i already have both then it should cancel out
@@WALTAH2000 psychological effects vary with person and dose. Pilkie isn’t entirely foolhardy to think about using it for that. A little bit of tren can open your eyes to bullshit in both other people and yourself. It can however easily go too far and make you paranoid and damage relationships. But if you gave a simp a little tren for a few weeks you would likely cure him. On Tren you don’t put people on pedestals. Tren tends to cure people of being followers, and if you’re willing to look in the mirror it can cure you of your weaknesses , self deception and excuses too.
But don’t listen to the doses you hear experienced gym rats throw around. 20mg every other day, so 60mg a week is a lot for some people to start. And you need a test base and p5p or Cabergoline to control prolactin and primo, Masteron and/ or aromisin possibly to control estrogen. It’s complicated to do it right. Good luck.
Great video. Thank you. Maybe just a tad too few arguments why one should not go on steroids just to be a little bigger than your teenage friends
A lot of people can taste injected substances. Especially IV. There are tons of little capillaries in your lungs and maybe that's why. I don't know for sure but it would make sense for something that was more aggressive to actually cause coughing.
I've never taken nor do I have a desire to take steroids but I find these videos very interesting. It makes me laugh when I hear influencers state "I don't even know about steroids" with a straight face these days. That excuse is the most obvious tell that you're a fake natty in the current world of information.
Just because there's information out there doesn't mean everyone has the desire to seek it. If someone's a natural and has absolutely no intentions of using steroids then it's within reason that they wouldn't know all the different types and how exactly they work.
I hear the words you’re saying, but the bottom left of the screen keeps telling me BASE, TREN, GH, AI. Loud and clear, Brom. Loud and clear.
Is the deadlift specialist from the UK also claiming to have a myostatin limiting genetic defect! I can totally see 2 grama of trenbolone there
Wouldn't be inclined to believe a word out of Hall's mouth
"Like, you're not a cow..." fucking killed me.
The black tar from fern gully lol. Love that movie
thanks !
Clicked like before watching because I have full confidence this will be GOLD