Another important feature of the Damar class is like Starfleet's gelato machines, it's equipped with a Kanar brewery. On a more serious note, the Damar class is a grand symbol for the reforms and rebounds Cardassia has made post-Dominion war. The term "Science Intel Dreadnaught" is likely influenced by Starfleet; while the links to Cardassia's past are obvious, it also symbolizes Cardassia's future in relation to the UFP. It's cool to see you do a ship from STO & it'd be enjoyable to see more.
In the storyline of STO, your impression that the goal of the new Cardassia is less sacrificial of Cardassians and more hesitant and observant - i.e. recon by recon instead of recon by sacrificial fire - is very much correct. The Romulan Republic (faction seeking to create a new homeworld for Romulans that represents "friendly" Romulans) is similar, and similarly dealing with the devastation of a homeworld, albeit much more recently. They are both more cooperative with the Federation and have a similar outlook, unwilling to be as callous with their citizens' lives as in the past (even the stability of the Federation is largely born out of human trauma from the conflict and division of Earth and its almost complete destruction, to some extent), and the class exemplifying this for the Cardassians being the Damar feels like an excellent way to honor its namesake. You might also be interested to know that the new Cardassia in STO is somewhat represented by Elim Garak, his personal ship is called the Tain, and he is played (voiced) by Andrew Robinson. It's difficult to even understand how it's possible, but Cryptic seems to have a better working relationship with past Star Trek actors than CBS/Paramount does, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but it feels - at least to me - like the people who put the most care and thought for the lore and fans of Star Trek during the current era (with the notable exceptions of Lower Decks and possibly Strange New Worlds - which I haven't seen yet but is, as I understand it, based on what Discovery was originally supposed to be before Kurtzman ousted the showrunner and replaced him with the moron responsible for DIS-continuity klingons with bat'leths that point fucking backwards because it's "defensive")... are writing storylines for an MMO that released in 2009. They have some missteps and they've had to retcon a lot of their original storyline, but honestly I quite like the Iconian War arc as something good and uniquely STO (though perhaps a show based during it would be fun) and the Temporal Accords arc and Hurk Invasion arc do (IMO) absolutely phenomenal work in wrapping up loose ends all across Trek throughout the years and tying the storylines together. It might not "be" official CBS canon, but it genuinely feels more canon to me than anything in Discovery except perhaps the ship designs (which despite everything I'm... actually quite fond of).
I love it. It is a nice new look to Cardassian star ships but yet keeps some of the old look that lets you know it's Cardassian that we learned to love so much.
Thanks very much for making this video. I love this ship and it was great to see it the get the Venom treatment. STO makes cool designs but it takes someone with your eye for detail and knowledge of the history, cultures and politics of species of the expanded universe to really ground the ships in that reality and bring them to life.
The Damar class is certainly an interesting new way for the Cardassian military to expand, the fact that their entire military philosophy is now shifting towards more intelligence warfare like the Obsidian Order shows that their military it going down the Romulan route. The Damar is just the ship that the Obsidian Order would salivate over and dream about in its capabilities. The Fact that they're able to make a proper stealth dreadnought is impressive and shows how far they've come since the universal cruisers of the dominion war; it does certainly find that balance that the Hutet could never manage and the change in their doctrine to solo operations suits it well. A fairly well rounded ship, but it does sacrifice the firepower that a dreadnought would have and the firepower that the Romulans can field in a similarly sized stealth ship. I always found it to display Cardassian evolution in ship design philosophy well, still lagging a bit behind in firepower and capabilities but is the stepping stone in the new era of the Cardassian fleet.
Great video, I had never seen this class of ship before, certainly like the concept. It looks like a natural progression of Cardassian design in a post-Dominion War reassessment of their doctrine and strategic needs.
Damar class trait is a fun one. If you have Jam Targeting Sensor, Evade Target Lock and Photonic Officer Boff Abilities, you can keep a Photonic duplicate of your ship that fights alongside with you.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 in STO, holograms are... Let's say, just a bit of distraction or decoy for the NPCs. The real hits are currently, science ships with gravity well and torpedo builds.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 well, in STO, science ships can create black holes that pull enemies together and deals kinetic damage. When an enemy dies, its warp core explodes which additionally deals additional kinetic damage to nearby enemies, causing a chain reaction. It can be a huge DPS monster.
Something you don't mention is that the Damar actually carries two Yukawa frigates (basically Hideki IIs), so it doesn't need separate escorts like something like a Galor or the Hutet. The Damar also has the ability to mask its warp signature in addition to a cloaking device, which actually makes it a very difficult ship to detect despite its size. Something that's conveyed through gameplay is that the Damar class has much more precise targeting systems than previous classes, allowing it to compensate for the weakness of Cardassian disruptors by being able to strike specific weakpoints rather than relying on brute force. It also has a fairly potent active sensor array which helps it use its precision targeting systems most effectively.
I like to think (having one of these in STO now by the way) that when the Cardassian Civil Defense Forces (the new Military for the Cardassian Union) looked at the new stuff coming out of the other powers, they knew they needed to keep up. Their Fleet Modernization program had these as part of the main objectives of all three. Detapa 'Escort'> "We need our own Defiant." Ghemor Flight Deck Cruiser> "This needs to be able to do the jobs of a Galor & Keldon." Damar Dreadnough> "We need this to be a Scimitar-killer." The latter would have involved them asking Starfleet for the Battle of Bassen Rift data so they knew what a Scimitar was capable of. Fun thing about being able to kill Scimitar-class Dreadnoughts is that it makes you really good at wiping the floor with everything below it.
I have always admired the Sonar Battlecruiser. Perhaps the best looking ship in the whole of this universe. Looks amazing and has a very functional / real world design to it.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Wow - totally missed that. And considering what a fan I have always been of the flying wings even more so. Really enjoy your channel.
some more trivia.. in star trek armada 1 game, there was also "damar" class - destroyer type, but as smaller variant of galor class.. so 10-15 years before star trek online "damar class"..
The Hutet you say xD No wonder they used the Damar as Hutet stand in in their new "Heritage Bundle" Trailer. The Hutet is still not in game and this was the biggest cardassian ship the Achilles could shoot at.
Nice piece of lore. Three is no much about cardassians in STO. I createed cardassian character in STO, he is captain of Keldon class ship: C.U.V. Damar. ;)
Great video. I have one of those ships on my STO account. Quite useful. And if the federation finally gives them the respect they deserve, the cardissians would make a great ally
First off love your breakdown of this ship, STO does a good job on many of its designs but it lacks this. I think the the "science intel dreadnought" while it is included in-game for marketing of course could be explained in universe by the Cardassian government wanting to say "we are not building a new Hutet".
Ii see how HUGE the Damar is and I wonder how it would stand up to the Hutet or if there are any modernized Hutets in Post Reconstruction Cardassian Service. when you think about it the are still using Galors in the STO timeline so I find it somewhat frustrating that there are isn’t a Hutet or Two still in service being kept in the fleet because frankly they are very multipurpose ships and having a mobile starbase makes sense. Also it would mean you wouldn’t lose the shipbuilding and crew skills required for such larger ships.
True. All that is to say the damar is easily as capable as the hutet whilst being less demanding on manpower and resources. Damar can also carry fighters and a mobile base.
Interesting bit about contracting ship construction. It makes pretty good sense. I don't play STO, so I can't say much about this ship. The lore concepts are great for a Star Trek game, but I'm not sure about them being used for actual cannon.
Both you and Triangulum Studios do something I find interesting. You state that, in universe, appearance has a say in starship design. It seems counterintuitive to me. With civilian tech, yeah. But how stupid would I feel dying because my dreaded new Packlid Battlecarrier had a crest of the Elder Packlid's chalice or whatever, instead of a proper underside phaser array? Or if the engineers chose a structurally less sound pylon design because it looks like a hawk's wing? Even if its not detrimental, it probably costs more though I guess if they're scarcity free, that's no big deal. Or maybe it's not the ideal color, like maybe the shiny red Emperor's Sword built into the nose of the alternate universe Packlid light cruiser might get it spotted or might interfere with sensors while a sensible non ornate front end would have been fine. Why wouldn't it be absolute dereliction of duty to put any aesthetic consideration whatsoever into the design of ships meant to keep the people or whatever safe? I'd be pissed if we started painting our aircraft carriers florescent green and equipping them with mini statues of liberty where a second catapult could have gone. Why is wings and beaks any different?
Don't open that Pandora's Box, or suspension of disbelief goes out the window. One might start wondering why Trek Universe ground wars don't feature armored vehicles. Heck that's barely scratching the surface of logical incongruencies. Shall we start dissecting Transporter and Replicator "God" Tech? lol
@@JeanLucCaptain I'm talking 'in universe.' They're saying that Starfleet wanted better looking ships. I get Star Trek wanting cool ships. But having Starfleet saying that is what I find 'interesting.'
Form isn't compelled to frustrate function; the visual rhythm, silhouette, the flow and form of hulls and the expression of the intent of the culture and designer are all there. Compare a Patton, IS-2, and King Tiger tank; the design and personality are different and distinctive.
The "sience" part of it's classification is part of the game mechanics. It means it has more room for science officers and consoles, so is more likely to have abilities that buff and debuff movement and shields, as opposed to engineers that are mostly about hull, shield and energy system buffs and repairs and tactical that are mostly increasing the damage output. As well as slightly stronger shields than engineer or tactical dreadnoughts. But it is still first and foremost a dreadnought, which usually means high health, medium firepower and low-ish manouverbility (compared to battlecruisers and escorts) and one hangar for fighers and/or frigates.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Pretty much. Dreadnoughts are the kind of the "off tank" in MMO terms. Not as tanky as the main tank, but with more damage output and/or versatility. Kind of like a 3/4 tank, 1/4 DPS. Furthermore the ship was part of a set of 3, where on top of them being dreadnoughts, they got some minor features of the "pure" escort/tank/science ship trifecta by being either a tactical dreadnought/, engineer dreadnought or science dreadnought respectively. So I guess you could say the Damar is sort of 2/3 tank, 1/6 DPS and 1/6 mage or something along those lines. ^^
I'd argue that the reason Damar is hailed and revered the way he is, is precisely because he died and in the way he did. Damar died a hero, a martyr who gave his life to free his people and who's last words were to keep going. His death galvanised his comrades to the point that even Garak, the quiet assassin was bellowing *"FOR CARDASSIA!!!"* from the top of his lungs. Maybe Damar would have gone on to be great leader, but it is just as likely he'd have simply been an okay leader. In death, he became something, vastly more powerful than a flawed, fallible man of flesh and blood. He became a symbol...
An interesting vessel. Maybe it should have been called the Tain class? Personally not a fan of the look of it, prefer the Hutet or galor, I think too much sleekness you lose the erm? …….Edge.
Tain wouldn't want a ship named after him, it'd be too much like drawing attention to himself for a man who's entire line of work and indeed his survival in that line of work depended on keeping to the shadows.
@@weldonwin he wouldn’t have a say at this point but the cloaking device and the reliance on information gathering fit. In game Garak’s Damar class flagship is also called the Tain. He might have had problems calling the class the Tain though. I wonder how many were built?
@@davidreeves4556 Given the size and sophistication of the Damar Class, probably not many. Just one would be a big investment to the Cardassian state, akin to a modern Nimitz class aircraft carrier.
Because he died. Damar went out in a blaze of glory, taking six to eight direct hits in the chest from Jem'Hadar plasma rifles, while leading a charge on the Dominion HQ and still lived long enough to deliver some last words, telling his comrades to keep going. In that moment, he went from a flawed drunk, to a hero and a martyr.
Another important feature of the Damar class is like Starfleet's gelato machines, it's equipped with a Kanar brewery.
On a more serious note, the Damar class is a grand symbol for the reforms and rebounds Cardassia has made post-Dominion war. The term "Science Intel Dreadnaught" is likely influenced by Starfleet; while the links to Cardassia's past are obvious, it also symbolizes Cardassia's future in relation to the UFP. It's cool to see you do a ship from STO & it'd be enjoyable to see more.
I feel like it’s the Germans/Japan being rehabilitated after world war 2. And becoming a world player once again on this strange stage.
@@Sensiblefool ; Don't forget the rehabilitation of the Italians.
@@occultatumquaestio5226 that actually might be a better fitting metaphor for the cardies
In the storyline of STO, your impression that the goal of the new Cardassia is less sacrificial of Cardassians and more hesitant and observant - i.e. recon by recon instead of recon by sacrificial fire - is very much correct. The Romulan Republic (faction seeking to create a new homeworld for Romulans that represents "friendly" Romulans) is similar, and similarly dealing with the devastation of a homeworld, albeit much more recently. They are both more cooperative with the Federation and have a similar outlook, unwilling to be as callous with their citizens' lives as in the past (even the stability of the Federation is largely born out of human trauma from the conflict and division of Earth and its almost complete destruction, to some extent), and the class exemplifying this for the Cardassians being the Damar feels like an excellent way to honor its namesake.
You might also be interested to know that the new Cardassia in STO is somewhat represented by Elim Garak, his personal ship is called the Tain, and he is played (voiced) by Andrew Robinson.
It's difficult to even understand how it's possible, but Cryptic seems to have a better working relationship with past Star Trek actors than CBS/Paramount does, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but it feels - at least to me - like the people who put the most care and thought for the lore and fans of Star Trek during the current era (with the notable exceptions of Lower Decks and possibly Strange New Worlds - which I haven't seen yet but is, as I understand it, based on what Discovery was originally supposed to be before Kurtzman ousted the showrunner and replaced him with the moron responsible for DIS-continuity klingons with bat'leths that point fucking backwards because it's "defensive")... are writing storylines for an MMO that released in 2009. They have some missteps and they've had to retcon a lot of their original storyline, but honestly I quite like the Iconian War arc as something good and uniquely STO (though perhaps a show based during it would be fun) and the Temporal Accords arc and Hurk Invasion arc do (IMO) absolutely phenomenal work in wrapping up loose ends all across Trek throughout the years and tying the storylines together. It might not "be" official CBS canon, but it genuinely feels more canon to me than anything in Discovery except perhaps the ship designs (which despite everything I'm... actually quite fond of).
I love it. It is a nice new look to Cardassian star ships but yet keeps some of the old look that lets you know it's Cardassian that we learned to love so much.
Thanks very much for making this video. I love this ship and it was great to see it the get the Venom treatment. STO makes cool designs but it takes someone with your eye for detail and knowledge of the history, cultures and politics of species of the expanded universe to really ground the ships in that reality and bring them to life.
glad you enjoyed it.
I like that it is both a new design and still shares aspects of the Hu'tet.
The Damar class is certainly an interesting new way for the Cardassian military to expand, the fact that their entire military philosophy is now shifting towards more intelligence warfare like the Obsidian Order shows that their military it going down the Romulan route. The Damar is just the ship that the Obsidian Order would salivate over and dream about in its capabilities. The Fact that they're able to make a proper stealth dreadnought is impressive and shows how far they've come since the universal cruisers of the dominion war; it does certainly find that balance that the Hutet could never manage and the change in their doctrine to solo operations suits it well. A fairly well rounded ship, but it does sacrifice the firepower that a dreadnought would have and the firepower that the Romulans can field in a similarly sized stealth ship. I always found it to display Cardassian evolution in ship design philosophy well, still lagging a bit behind in firepower and capabilities but is the stepping stone in the new era of the Cardassian fleet.
I wouldn't say lagging in firepower. As in STO it is very good at surgical strikes.
I'm a simple man, I see a Venom Geek Media video, I click like.
Great video, I had never seen this class of ship before, certainly like the concept. It looks like a natural progression of Cardassian design in a post-Dominion War reassessment of their doctrine and strategic needs.
Definitely. A lot changes but a lot stays the same.
I have a eaglemoss model of this class and it actually reminds me of that big cardassian carrier from the dominion war I forgot the name lol
You mean the Hutet?
Damar class trait is a fun one. If you have Jam Targeting Sensor, Evade Target Lock and Photonic Officer Boff Abilities, you can keep a Photonic duplicate of your ship that fights alongside with you.
Pretty crazy stuff. I never got into STO but I can tell you in halo that holograms are pretty good at catching people out.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 in STO, holograms are... Let's say, just a bit of distraction or decoy for the NPCs. The real hits are currently, science ships with gravity well and torpedo builds.
@@cmdrtianyilin8107 gravity well?
@@venomgeekmedia9886 well, in STO, science ships can create black holes that pull enemies together and deals kinetic damage. When an enemy dies, its warp core explodes which additionally deals additional kinetic damage to nearby enemies, causing a chain reaction. It can be a huge DPS monster.
I really like the Damar class it's a really great looking Vessel
Something you don't mention is that the Damar actually carries two Yukawa frigates (basically Hideki IIs), so it doesn't need separate escorts like something like a Galor or the Hutet. The Damar also has the ability to mask its warp signature in addition to a cloaking device, which actually makes it a very difficult ship to detect despite its size.
Something that's conveyed through gameplay is that the Damar class has much more precise targeting systems than previous classes, allowing it to compensate for the weakness of Cardassian disruptors by being able to strike specific weakpoints rather than relying on brute force. It also has a fairly potent active sensor array which helps it use its precision targeting systems most effectively.
I like to think (having one of these in STO now by the way) that when the Cardassian Civil Defense Forces (the new Military for the Cardassian Union) looked at the new stuff coming out of the other powers, they knew they needed to keep up. Their Fleet Modernization program had these as part of the main objectives of all three.
Detapa 'Escort'> "We need our own Defiant."
Ghemor Flight Deck Cruiser> "This needs to be able to do the jobs of a Galor & Keldon."
Damar Dreadnough> "We need this to be a Scimitar-killer."
The latter would have involved them asking Starfleet for the Battle of Bassen Rift data so they knew what a Scimitar was capable of. Fun thing about being able to kill Scimitar-class Dreadnoughts is that it makes you really good at wiping the floor with everything below it.
Nice video, I never knew that there was another class of ship named Damar.
Welcome to the wonderful world of beta/ fan Canon
I have always admired the Sonar Battlecruiser. Perhaps the best looking ship in the whole of this universe. Looks amazing and has a very functional / real world design to it.
Looks a lot like the b2 spirit.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Wow - totally missed that. And considering what a fan I have always been of the flying wings even more so. Really enjoy your channel.
I find the blue glows aesthetically pleasing
Well that actually echoes the early promotional art which showed blue deflectors but we never see that in the shows.
Great Content As Always Venom…. Can’t Wait For My ‘Arsenal’ Fix!!
some more trivia..
in star trek armada 1 game, there was also "damar" class - destroyer type, but as smaller variant of galor class.. so 10-15 years before star trek online "damar class"..
Is there a breathalyzer hooked up to the helm? 🤣
Cardassia has changed. But not that much.
The Hutet you say xD No wonder they used the Damar as Hutet stand in in their new "Heritage Bundle" Trailer. The Hutet is still not in game and this was the biggest cardassian ship the Achilles could shoot at.
Nice piece of lore. Three is no much about cardassians in STO.
I createed cardassian character in STO, he is captain of Keldon class ship: C.U.V. Damar. ;)
Now that’s what I call a good bargain🤣
Absolutely spectacular video
The forward "fangs" give it a breen influenced look to me.
Interesting. See for me it feels very Sona
great overview. i actually wanted to get this ship for the anniversary of the game but the gagarin class was just so much better
And now it's Canon.
Cheers. New federation star ship. In Picard and old favourites thank god
yeah i saw, bit by bit STO is creeping into cannon.
i am disappointed in myself for missing this upload when it came out.
glad you could make it.
Great video. I have one of those ships on my STO account. Quite useful. And if the federation finally gives them the respect they deserve, the cardissians would make a great ally
They still have a relatively small fleet compared to the other powers.
Kanar with Damar
I'm going to say again, it sounds like Damar's late night talk show, where he and a guest discuss current events topics, over a bottle of fine Kanar
First off love your breakdown of this ship, STO does a good job on many of its designs but it lacks this.
I think the the "science intel dreadnought" while it is included in-game for marketing of course could be explained in universe by the Cardassian government wanting to say "we are not building a new Hutet".
Yeah. Taking notes from the federation on PR friendly class names.
Ii see how HUGE the Damar is and I wonder how it would stand up to the Hutet or if there are any modernized Hutets in Post Reconstruction Cardassian Service. when you think about it the are still using Galors in the STO timeline so I find it somewhat frustrating that there are isn’t a Hutet or Two still in service being kept in the fleet because frankly they are very multipurpose ships and having a mobile starbase makes sense. Also it would mean you wouldn’t lose the shipbuilding and crew skills required for such larger ships.
True. All that is to say the damar is easily as capable as the hutet whilst being less demanding on manpower and resources. Damar can also carry fighters and a mobile base.
Interesting bit about contracting ship construction. It makes pretty good sense. I don't play STO, so I can't say much about this ship. The lore concepts are great for a Star Trek game, but I'm not sure about them being used for actual cannon.
Well it looks like picard is doing just that.
Cool. I do like the Caddies big super ships. Lol like the Huet?
What about it?
@@venomgeekmedia9886 oh I wasn't sure how it was spell. Lol so I threw the question mark in at the end. Sorry. Hahahahahs
@@warhawk4494 when in doubt. How it sounds 😉
Both you and Triangulum Studios do something I find interesting. You state that, in universe, appearance has a say in starship design.
It seems counterintuitive to me.
With civilian tech, yeah. But how stupid would I feel dying because my dreaded new Packlid Battlecarrier had a crest of the Elder Packlid's chalice or whatever, instead of a proper underside phaser array?
Or if the engineers chose a structurally less sound pylon design because it looks like a hawk's wing?
Even if its not detrimental, it probably costs more though I guess if they're scarcity free, that's no big deal.
Or maybe it's not the ideal color, like maybe the shiny red Emperor's Sword built into the nose of the alternate universe Packlid light cruiser might get it spotted or might interfere with sensors while a sensible non ornate front end would have been fine.
Why wouldn't it be absolute dereliction of duty to put any aesthetic consideration whatsoever into the design of ships meant to keep the people or whatever safe?
I'd be pissed if we started painting our aircraft carriers florescent green and equipping them with mini statues of liberty where a second catapult could have gone. Why is wings and beaks any different?
Don't open that Pandora's Box, or suspension of disbelief goes out the window. One might start wondering why Trek Universe ground wars don't feature armored vehicles. Heck that's barely scratching the surface of logical incongruencies. Shall we start dissecting Transporter and Replicator "God" Tech? lol
Dude, does the rule of cool mean anything to you?
@@JeanLucCaptain I'm talking 'in universe.' They're saying that Starfleet wanted better looking ships. I get Star Trek wanting cool ships. But having Starfleet saying that is what I find 'interesting.'
Form isn't compelled to frustrate function; the visual rhythm, silhouette, the flow and form of hulls and the expression of the intent of the culture and designer are all there. Compare a Patton, IS-2, and King Tiger tank; the design and personality are different and distinctive.
Nice!
But! The most important question, does it come with all you can drink Kanar in every birth?
New Cardy ships!!!!!
The "sience" part of it's classification is part of the game mechanics. It means it has more room for science officers and consoles, so is more likely to have abilities that buff and debuff movement and shields, as opposed to engineers that are mostly about hull, shield and energy system buffs and repairs and tactical that are mostly increasing the damage output. As well as slightly stronger shields than engineer or tactical dreadnoughts.
But it is still first and foremost a dreadnought, which usually means high health, medium firepower and low-ish manouverbility (compared to battlecruisers and escorts) and one hangar for fighers and/or frigates.
So the emphasis is on survivability. Which given cardassias manpower issue makes sense.
@@venomgeekmedia9886 Pretty much. Dreadnoughts are the kind of the "off tank" in MMO terms. Not as tanky as the main tank, but with more damage output and/or versatility. Kind of like a 3/4 tank, 1/4 DPS.
Furthermore the ship was part of a set of 3, where on top of them being dreadnoughts, they got some minor features of the "pure" escort/tank/science ship trifecta by being either a tactical dreadnought/, engineer dreadnought or science dreadnought respectively.
So I guess you could say the Damar is sort of 2/3 tank, 1/6 DPS and 1/6 mage or something along those lines. ^^
nice!
Epic
Your awesome
I wonder can the thing still superwave...
By that point, the Cardassians aren't even a regional power. At least not right after the war.
Let's hope that the entire ship is not controlled by a single computer.
This ship looks like someone was drawing a hyperactive 10 year old's verbal description of "What if the Borg tried to assimilate a pair of scissors".
Had damar survived, he would've been a good leader.
He truly reformed..
Fortunately there were others that could help cardassia change
I'd argue that the reason Damar is hailed and revered the way he is, is precisely because he died and in the way he did. Damar died a hero, a martyr who gave his life to free his people and who's last words were to keep going. His death galvanised his comrades to the point that even Garak, the quiet assassin was bellowing *"FOR CARDASSIA!!!"* from the top of his lungs. Maybe Damar would have gone on to be great leader, but it is just as likely he'd have simply been an okay leader. In death, he became something, vastly more powerful than a flawed, fallible man of flesh and blood. He became a symbol...
Yeah I feel like he's the cardassian version of Charles degaulle
@@weldonwin
Yes even garak was inspired by damar at the end.
A man he had every reason to hate and yet...
@@venomgeekmedia9886
In what way? 😊
An interesting vessel. Maybe it should have been called the Tain class? Personally not a fan of the look of it, prefer the Hutet or galor, I think too much sleekness you lose the erm? …….Edge.
Tain wouldn't want a ship named after him, it'd be too much like drawing attention to himself for a man who's entire line of work and indeed his survival in that line of work depended on keeping to the shadows.
@@weldonwin he wouldn’t have a say at this point but the cloaking device and the reliance on information gathering fit. In game Garak’s Damar class flagship is also called the Tain. He might have had problems calling the class the Tain though. I wonder how many were built?
@@davidreeves4556 Given the size and sophistication of the Damar Class, probably not many. Just one would be a big investment to the Cardassian state, akin to a modern Nimitz class aircraft carrier.
How did a mediocre drunkard become a legend and have ships of the line named after him?
Because he died. Damar went out in a blaze of glory, taking six to eight direct hits in the chest from Jem'Hadar plasma rifles, while leading a charge on the Dominion HQ and still lived long enough to deliver some last words, telling his comrades to keep going. In that moment, he went from a flawed drunk, to a hero and a martyr.
Calls the Netel ugly.. :(
i wouldnt say ugly more... blunt. the ships that went before the Netel, now those are howlers.