Did You Fall For "The Bambino Trap?"
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Time to revisit one of the first ever watches which I reviewed on UA-cam. They may have updated, upgraded, and upsized the Bambino, but does it still represent a trap for the unwary? Let me know your thoughts! Cheers, JOMW.
Everything looks good in low light. I learnt that the hard way at several bars at 3am in the late nineties
Indeed. As Willie Nelson, peace be upon him, once noted; 'I went to bed at 2 with a 10 and woke up at 10 with a 2.'
Ahh yes that 1990s 3a.m. Lowlight bar room trap.
LOL! we call it "coyote arm" syndrome.
MrAdjaize There’s a song that may have gone with your experience...
@@Isahiyella Wille is not dead, twat
As far as I can tell, no one was asking for a larger Bambino. A smaller 36-38mm version would get them a few new customers though.
At this point, the >40mm size and niche lug width are about all that's kept me from getting one.
Given that they are big manufacturer they could actually manage maybe even three size versions.
Would the movement even fit?
a 36mm Bambino is what I'm looking for ... my 6 inch wrist makes the Orient Mako 2 looks huge
I agree. I would instantly pick one up at 36-38mm. 42mm on a watchface that is mostly dial is ridiculous. Might as well order clownshoes to go with it.
I got trapped into the best $125 I’ve ever spent, trap me again please!!
where'd you but it from? I can't seem to find it for under 160
@JPS JPS what is the reference of your model?
Maybe so I bought 5 Bambinos so far or I could have bought one low end Swiss watch, no regrets.
@@uditjain3636 Amazon sells plenty of Bambino watches around $125 give or take $10.
Can someone help please. How to tell if you are buying a fake Bambino on Amazon? I'm looking at a blue dial, gen 2 V3.
There is no Bambino Trap - it's all about the knowledge and expectation of the watch enthusiast at an early stage of their watch collecting journey. The Bambino is what you run across when you first start getting interested in watches and people get it because it has some very strong positives - it is cheap, has a reliable automatic movement and it looks stylish. Around $200AUD for a watch isn't going to break the bank so it's an easy buy-in for the novice looking for something with genuine horological chops. It's only after that that they actually start to discover what their true preferences are and if going onto watchuseek has taught me anything, dive watches are the king, pilot watches are popular and dress watches are anomalies.
Personally, I love "dress watches" and I wear them but stylistically they are an echo of a bygone age (like the Madmen TV show). I wear them in an office environment with ties, Italian shirts and polished shoes but how much of the young generation, navigating through the "gig economy" are in this kind of environment? Is the Bambino a daily watch AND a weekend watch? Not really. People soon discover this when they realise that they don't wear the Bambino very often and then sell it. And technically speaking, the Bambino is not a dress watch - the seconds hand and date complication disqualifies it as such. It is closer to what used to be called "day watches" which is the place where watches like the SARB033 and 035 also inhabit. That is, too utilitarian for a dress watch but too refined for a tool watch.
great summary. Agreed on all points.
Never thought of it as strictly a dress watch. It's not a tool watch for sure like a diver or pilot watch. I have those too. But I wear my Bambinos in all sorts of situations from dress to daily wear casual. Sure, my SKX or Ray II get the most wrist time, but I work from home and wear my Bambinos with anything. They dress up and they dress down with ease. I love all three of them. My SARB033 is kinda my dedicated dress watch due to the size even though that is kinda in the sport watch category too. But it slip under a cuff with ease and looks and feels pricier than it is. When I wear a suit, the SARB goes on the wrist. Oh, and love your profile pic, just noticed Camus.
Congratulations on one of the, if not thee longest comments I've seen here. 😳
Totally agree spot on points.
Very well said. I fell into the "Bambino Trap" precisely because (1) I was at the very beginning of my watch hobby; (2) I didn't yet know my style preferences; (3) I didn't yet know my size preferences; (4) the Bambino is a very nice watch at a very nice price. Point 4 is the Bambino's VIRTUE, not fault. Points 1-3, meanwhile, are all on me. To call it a Bambino Trap is to suggest that the fault is somehow in the watch or the praise surrounding it, rather than in the buyer's lack of self-knowledge.
Love it ,anything less than 42 mm looks tiny on me so perfect dress watch and love the colour scheme on this one .Price is great too and noisy movement is a conversation starter lol
noisy moevment,,, ???
you must be a big idiot...
I have this same watch and I like it a lot, I just wish that they did go smaller. I would have loved to seen it in a 38- 40 mm.
I have the bambino small seconds and it's the perfect affordable dress watch for my collection. I don't wear it often but when I do need a dress watch it more than does the trick.
Exactly!!! Got one last year after reading, watching all the love heaped on it. I loved looking at it, never wore it, then sold it. A bit too big, lousy strap and it was the last mineral crystal watch I'll ever buy.
I have the green one. Love the look, don't mind the rotor noise. Wear it on dinner dates and business/biz casual attire events. My wrist is 75 mm across so the size is ok with me. Looks like a heritage piece, is cheap, scratches easy so don't think it will last. Fine with me.
One gripe aside from scratches - the hands should be thicker and longer.
I really enjoy my open heart bambino and mine is 40.5mm (case) and 46mm (lug to lug) and I think it’s a fine size for a dress watch. However, I purposely did not get the version 4 bambino because its size is 42mm (case) and 48.5mm (lug to lug), which is personally too large for my taste. So I would definitely recommend the bambino series 1-3 as it’s a beautiful watch at a great price. I also really enjoy the Timex Marlin, which is 34mm and a beautiful hand winding piece.
I have two, the gold/green and black/silver versions. Still absolutely love them for formal dinners / meetings and for a nice night out with the wife. I wore both during my wedding day, gold/green for my wedding day and black/silver for the evening with a tuxedo and they both got really positive comments, as they have when entertaining customers. They'll remain in my collection for sure :)
The value is @ your wrist, regardless of how much money you've spent on the piece.
Aș for the mineral crystals, I've scratched a couple the very first day I wore those watches, therefore, I believe sapphire is underrated. I would not buy another mineral unless it's a very very impressive looking watch.
no- the real value is how it satyisfy your needs...
iam an watch repair man,,, and i need a special wathc,, cheap and reliable...precise and stylish...
new trap and new glass will come if the wathc proves it deserves it,,, till now it works great, and i dont need to swap or change the strap or the glass, its like knew so why botter, only idiots bother with perfect tihings...
Yeah, i have an Hamilton khaki field quartz that was gifted to me a few years ago. and though i don't really like the quartz movement and would much prefer an automatic one, i'm so in love with the build quality (stainless steel and sapphire) and the design. Looking forward to buying the mechanical version!
Been happy with Bambinos.. Had a v2 in black - then gave it to a friend and promptly picked up a RA-AG0005L10A (Blue dial/open heart/hand-wind-hack movement/40.5mm case) .. The wind/hack was attractive to me - as well as the open heart design. While I don't wear it much, it's a cool piece of horology I'm happy to have in the collection.
Cheers-
I have the v4 with the green dial. I immediately changed out the strap for a more casual one. Though the watch is a little large for my taste, I wear it more than any other. It has been perfect for wearing to the office m-f and cheap enough that I don't worry about banging it around. The design and interesting color get a lot of compliments. The sound doesn't bother me either..I enjoy the experience of shaking it and listening to the movement! :)
If I had one wish to be granted it would be a smaller size.
I have always been a huge Orient fan, I own two. A Mako XL as well as a Ranger. I am enamored with the Bambino line of watches, but like you, I do not have an occasion to wear a dress watch. I do not work in an office. I do attend my wife's office Christmas party once a year, but that doesn't justify the need to own a dress watch. Besides my Orient Ranger does kind of fall into the dress watch category. I would absolutely love to own a Bambino but it is hard to justify it. I feel the same way about the Seiko Pressage. It absolutely mesmerizes me and I adore the looks of it, but I will probably never own one. They just don't fit my lifestyle. The green dial Bambino reminds me of the Alpinist and that is the Bambino I am most attracted to. I think the next watch in my cross hairs I think is the new Seiko srpc51 although you may have talked me into the Cadison. I love your work on the channel and am jealous of you. As I have said before, you are living the dream.
I've got a blue dial V4 and absolutely love it! It was my first automatic watch and have been really impressed with the quality that Orient provides for the price, so much so that I purchased another Orient recently, the white dial Gen 3 Sun and Moon. I have some micro scratches and scuffs on the crystal though, but it's only noticeable if you're trying too hard. Orient makes really elegant watches with top notch finishing and their in house movements have good accuracy. Both my Orients are around +5 secs per day :)
Unfair... I bought my first bambino 2 or 3 years ago, fell in love with the watch, ended buying 2 more. I wear suit and tie to the office and they fit so well into the enviroment. No scratches so far and, as I stated before, I wear them everyday. Maybe it is you who have an active lifestyle or maybe you're just clumsy and scrath them.
The bambino is just unmatched for the price, you can't find anything similar on the market, inhouse automatic movement on a classic design for a true dress watch under $150? For that money you can either find "dress like watches" or quartz movements.
I had no problems buying straps on ebay, and the only negative I've found after owning 3 and wearing them every day, is that the strap that comes with the bambino is a lower quality leather...
Great comment, and my experience mirrors yours. Got a Bambino 2nd generation for $119 US from Long Island Watch, in black and rose gold. Lovely design, runs a very consistent +5 /+8 on the wrist and takes about 40 seconds to take out of storage, set, and wind 6 or 7 turns. I have several "dress" watches, and although the leather strap is cheap and rigid, I reach for this one first. Not a hint of a scratch 2 years in. Looks like new, and it actually has drawn a couple of compliments.
My Rossling and Co Metro has a super loud Miyota in it - I completely agree with your comments on movement noise - It is surprisingly distracting etc.
I like tastefully big dials, but would agree maybe a few size options.
Love this watch…I was so tempted to buy it! But I went for a Seiko 5, the size of the Bambino just put me off as I had small wrists.
They look good... Work good... and they are well priced... so if it’s a trap, I’ll jump in it
Btw, your choice of V4 is, imho, the best looking. If I had some available cash, it would be for that one!
I had one I bought new a few years ago. Very pretty, dirt cheap. I liked it, I remember wearing it to a party and getting compliments. I wore it only occasionally, usually to the office. It was odd, beautiful, and cheap - like my ex! Therefore I loved it.
About a year in the date wheel would hang up sometimes short of correct alignment. Repair was out of the question on such a cheap watch. I learned to slap it to jar the date into position.
Then one day it just quit. I think the mainspring just let go. Dead. I swore I'd never get another, although I've been tempted. Instead I got a Seiko 5, a dressier version with bracelet and applied markers. It satisfies my craving for shabby chic. I've always had good experiences with the 5s. No more Bambinos
I was looking at Bambino a few months ago. Got a few watches since then. Had been hesitant because of the 21mm.
Found out last week the 4 is now 22, so I just ordered this exact one :)
Like hmmm, dinky quartz fashion watches, or established brand...
Love catching up on the older reviews.
I love love love the way a double domed crystal looks on these types of cases.
Totally love this video. The CAD is amazing. I could design a chronograph dial with it!! the laser is amazing. Love it!
that's a nice looking Orient watch. Sure the crystal is going to get scratched, it's expected of any tool used on a regular basis.
Wear it to tell time and date for function without the worry of damaging a much more expensive watch.
The tools needed replace the crystal are inexpensive and making the repair yourself on a $100 watch is rewarding.
"...half of you are nuts and I get a lot of entertainment from reading what it is you have to say!". Love this guy...
There are so many Orient Bambino models out there that you should be able to find something you're comfortable with wearing every day. Sometimes it's not the fancy ones that pop when you immediately look at themthat fit into your style the best, but the more understated ones that are better.
Purchased a Ver. 4 Rosegold. I was quite disappointed when compared to my other Orient watches. Only wore it a few times. The handwinding is like grinding glass when you wind the watch.
I did almost buy a Bambino a while back. I still like the look, but don't really wear dress watches. The reason I didn't buy one is because of the domed mineral crystal. I do have tons of Vostoks, but I order 5 crystals at a time so I can replace those. I doubt the mineral crysyals for these are as cheap as the Vostok crystals.
I love my Bambino, it resembles to the vintage omega pie pan!
Was all set to get this version until I saw they were 42mm. No way now.
The Oriënt Star Classic has it all, 38 mm, better movement and more quality.
Have a great weekend.
I don’t understand why the Bambino gets hate. I bought a silver V2 for $110. I wear it here and there and it gets compliments on the regular. Can’t beat the price. If you have high standards on a budget you’re just being unrealistic.
Good review and point about the trap. However it took me many years to realize that people are influenced by how you appear and dress etc. It is one way to get people's attention and see you at first impression in a positive light. In my opinion a nice watch always comes across in a very positive light.
However, you are very astute to note life style needs to be a key consideration. I was not keen to by a dress watch. I mean I want to wear an Orient almost routinely. Most in my opinion are meant for occasions or times wear you have your best one (regardless of price, focused purely on how the watch looks and makes you feel). I felt Gen 1 versions were too dressy. But Gen 2 variations offer a kind of middle ground. For example this FAC08001T0 blew me away. I bought it and use it often.
Clever and funny title! The short hands have kept me away. I’m puzzled as to why most of these except for the Ronan Numeraled versions, have what appears to be hands designed for a smaller watch.
If a mineral crystal becomes scratched, don’t you always have the option to send it off to replace it? And if so, I’d imagine you could request a sapphire crystal if you liked the watch enough to spend the money.
1:19 gosh!! I was so surprised ahhahaha
Those watchwinders in the background are super cool. Where did you get them?
Just got one. Love mine. Those blue hands...
The Bambino Small Seconds is perfection
If the “bambino trap” is somehow losing your bambino in your house with no sign of it in over 4 months, then yes, I have fallen for that trap
I have the black OS Classic - a perfect size for a modern dress watch at 38.5mm imo. If they brought out a few versions of that with different sunburst coloured dials it would be awesome. The size of V4 Bambino is just about fine for now but may become dated quickly if watch sizes continue to shrink.
I went for the Capital in stead of the Bambino. IF the Bambino came in a 38mm diameter with a 20mm strap, it would have won hands down! Oh, well...
Ray Seaman Hi, I'm currently looking for a dress watch of around 38mm and below, do you mind posting the exact capital model so I can have a look (if it's dressy)?
Thomas Howard Hi Thomas, thank you for your reply. Yeah, I've seen those before, and that's the only issue for me at the moment, price. But thank you for your help
I actually bought two: V2 with the cream dial that I wear suited up, and V4 you have here. I like both of them a lot, but don't really get as much use of the V2. I find the gray dial and rose gold quite fetching, though the strap started showing its again almost immediately and had to switch it out. Still think it's a great entry level automatic...
Yes I love them and I bought 3 of them
Funny thing ... in Germany the Amazon EUR price is double that of the USD price. Sticking with my Seiko SNK809.
It's a good looking watch, decent quality, for a pretty reasonable price. No trap here, that I can see. I've had one for a few years, and am a very satisfied customer! That said, 42mm diameter is a bit larger than my tastes.
i bought the blue one, I prefer the squared hands on the older ones
It's not the Bambino trap, it's the TGV emperor's clothes effect. Although to be fair the Bambino isn't stark bollock Squale.
Comment of the day.Period.
I agree with this comment, and I'm one of the ppl that went for it. It is a nice watch though so I don't feel too bad, but maybe it's not quite worth all the hype.
I apologize for being unable to find (or state?) the words describing how poor taste your demeaning comment really is.
Oh lord, more whiny knocks on TGV. Bottom line: I think TGV is right about the Bambino. I also think Jody is right about the Bambino. Me, I picked up an Orient Sun and Moon v3 to cover my “day watch” slot - good looking and a bit more expensive than the Bambino, with sapphire glass and a day/date complication. But it too has the rickety movement feel that Jody was complaining about. I use it occasionally and enjoy having in my collection, but it certainly doesn’t get the wrist time that my Oris Aquis or Breitling chronograph do. Which goes to the point Jody was trying to make: the question isn’t whether the Bambino is a “good” watch, or a “high value” watch. The question is, it it likely to be a good watch for the lifestyle and preferences of a specific person? That’s a more meaningful question, but also a personal question.
@@valjean3141 What are you, about 12?
The trap is real. Bambino is where a lot of us start with when becoming watch enthusiasts. It's a great watch, but as enthusiasts we quickly learn of other great watches at higher price point. I ended up with 2nd and 3rd gen Bambinos sitting on a watch case. I have not flipped them because of all the memories, but they did not get any rotation among my Aqua Terra, Alpinist, Oris Pilot, etc
Sadly, I wanted a V2 Bambino but ended up with Seiko Quartz dress watch with a sapphire crystal with 20mm lug width to fit my NATO strap collection (SGEH43). Better for my needs and so much more beautiful in person than in online photos. I had no idea their V4s had a more standard 22mm lug width. Now I want a V4 in green/gold to get that Seiko Alpinist look without the price tag!!!
I fell in the trap. Great review, I own the same watch and pretty much agree with your assessment. I haven't had any issues with scratching the crystal.
I just bought the V8 and I love it 🥰
Bambino v2 was my first watch. Turns out I end up wearing a diver almost every day, but it's still nice to have something dressier when the occasion calls for it.
It is a "trap" so to speak, I bought two of the V1's. I wear them only for more formal dress, so I do not wear them too often. I tend to call them my poor man's Calatrava. Definitely good price and nice look, but I never looked too deeply at the mechanicals. Agreed, I have 40.5 mm versions but would like to have seen them moving to 38-39 mm version and sapphire crystals. (P.S. I wore a stainless steel Seiko 5 in the office wear)
I almost bought a Bambino small seconds until I realized I can get a vintage Omega or a Tissot for a little more money. I do feel like the Bambino is an awesome alternative to a lot of fashion watches out there though.
Hiya Jody.I can't comment as I don't have one,I don't wear a dress watch even when dressed up but your video prompts me to ask how many have fallen into the Chinese cauldron?!!! Despite me banging on for months how good they are......had my second failure inside a year whilst winding one last night!I only Don it occasionally but it sounds and feels like the winding pinion has failed.Havent looked yet but not good!Anyway great video as always.Cheers,The Len.
i dont like short hands on watches, in my oppinion it looks super nice when the second and minute hand reach the markers
Its a beautiful budget watch the v4, the only thing thats not good is the size... if it was 38 id be allover that.
I bought the 1st generation (non-hacking, non-winding) version 3 with the slate gray dial from Long Island Watch a couple of years ago, largely influenced by the TGV review. Overall, I’ve been very pleased with the purchase. I love the clean, classic look, and I’ve managed to avoid scratching the huge, domed crystal. I replaced the stock strap, which isn’t very good, as everyone knows. I think it was a fantastic value for the money, at the time. However, I got an Omega Railmaster 60th anniversary edition last year, so I don’t wear the Bambino nearly as much as I used to. I was disappointed to learn the the new Bambinos are 42mm with 22mm lugs. That’s too large for a dress watch, IMHO. I think it would have been a better move to make 38mm with 20mm lugs, which would fit better on more people. I love your videos- keep up the good work! :)
I think I will buy this one and fall into as well 😉 I have an orient triton and I quite enjoy it. Nice video Jody. Greetings from Poland!
How about a video with some options to avoid the bambino trap? Other options for dress watches under $150.
Great topic. Love the channel,. The Bambino Trap = novice watch enthusiast influenced by internet hype and hucksters to purchase inexpensive watches of marginal quality such as the Orient Bambino as part of a “collection” which turn out to be unimpressive in the flesh and seldom worn. Buyer beware. Much better to save your money over time, defer immediate gratification, and purchase a quality piece to be cherished and worn with zero buyers remorse. Save your money. Better to have one quality timepiece than a dozen cheap watches in a “collection” as touted by a paid internet influencer. Do your research and buy quality.
I almost suffered a heart attack when I saw that Mao murderer book in the back lol. Great video.
Yeah, I study Chinese history! He was responsible for a fair few deaths......
For Christmas I purchased an Orient Capital Generation 2 for under $70 USD so I can gradually slide into a Bambino.
Its a good entry dress watch. i wear it a lot since it is currently the nicest watch that i have
I think the best way to wear a Bambino, is to put a divers watch strap on it and wear it doing everything that you do... Some say, "let it snow"... In this case, let it scratch.
That winding sound is less obtrusive on mine, I have the same exact watch. Cheap, but I still like the looks. Strap is not suitable for a dress watch.
I believe the reason why Orient doesn't make the Bambino smaller is because it would be in direct competition with their own Orient Star model line which typically sell in the $300 to $400 dollar range.
Like the watch, have one, pros and cons, pros win for me. Jody that watch looks nice with jeans and T-shirt. Great video as usual.
Kind of hard to know which watch is which now that they dropped the "Bambino" name
the 36mm is the perfect dress watch for me
Yet another great video Jodi! I see a lot of massdrop Bambinos for sale and it's getting harder and harder to resist 😭
I need a gold case dresser with white dial for under 300 euros, diameter 38cm or 37cm. Do I have a better and more elegant choice then the bambino? i looked for the orient star a few bucks more but find that the logo on this is even bigger and like the bambino dial more. Everyones help is greatly appreciated.
6 seconds per day. 🤣 You gotta be shitting me! 😂
That's the one I used to have. I did like it but, if it was 40MM I would have kept it.
I still really love my rose gold and black v2 version. Strap is starting to fall apart though.
I feel the title was a bit click baity. Not much talk about why it would be a trap, just mentioning the easily scratched crystal. Was expecting a bigger argument as to why it would be a trap.
Have you seen the armitron stainless steel series for the price of some of the watches they not bad as Edc and or dinner style watches I think
What app do you use for your movement accuracy tests?
Great video man still getting my dad the new one lol its iconic.
Orient Tristar vega collection an alternative to the bambino.
This one got booted from my watchbox and sits unused in a shelf somewhere. The hand are just too short, or rather the watch is too big for its hands. Also, the contrast between the indecies and the dial is not enough for my aging eyes.
Two bambinos series 2 in my collection love them
What’s your opinion on the Hesalite crystal on a Speedmaster?
I don't like when watches have paint framing the date. It totally mucks up the image of the watch face.
I lost my shit sitting here watching this 'the kittens of rotary noise doom'... Haha love it.
One of the worst watch-crimes: hands too short... You might buy a watch and not notice it at first, but there will always be a notion that smoething is off, until you do notice, and you'll never unnotice. At least the minute hand should reach the minute track!!!
Nice dress watch but I always prefer dive watch style .
Keep the uploads coming
tehre is mako...
but i dont like dive wathgcs,,, this is like buying a jeep to use in the hight way everdays..the world is overpopulated of brainless idiots.iamnot saying its the case.
what's your opinion on watch companies like RW who market "in house" movements being lightly modified but still made by the same companies and not actually in house?
what does in house mean to you?
42mm is just too big for that type of watch. I would love one in the 38 to 40 range.
I believe you should wear whatever watch with whatever outfit you want, you bought the watch for your enjoyment didn't you?
It's a lovely watch but lilke Seiko why don't they put a sapphire on and charge £30 extra.Who wouldn't pay the extra?
2 big i am afraid and the mineral crystal just doesn't cut it for me ... to clumsy
For the price you can’t go wrong
Where can i get this type of strap in 18mm
In india it cost us $340 Do you think it's worth its price today?
Idk man, I have one and I like how it looks and it works fine
Just like the Seiko watch hands those angled dial hands disappear when moved when over dark dials. Don't like them.
I have the older bambino I bought it years ago. Worn it once and put it away. Just wasn't for me.
Island watch will sell this watch with a sapphire crystal as an option.