Google says their Pixels are DCI-P3 but they have locked them to sRGB. Not sure why the mistake. If you are unsure about what I say, just go to a Verizon store if you can and see how you feel. It's what you feel that matters. I just show some reproducible measurements to give you an idea of what's going on.
There's always something that a company messes up on ....whether it be bad screen, small battery, no headphone jack, single mono speaker ...never fails
Jaylen Thrash yeah but you think the mate 9 is a perfect phone? I have not seen it myself but there's 1 place where most phones fail at and that is updates,does the mate 9 even get updates.
I was waiting to hear Erica's take on the display issue. Nobody scrutinizes displays as thoroughly. She has spoken, and the question of an issue is settled. Frankly, I'm surprised she stayed as cool as she did; over $1000 for _that_ ....
Yeah, I'm waiting to see her review of the retail unit of the V30. Already she says that Samsung's is better, but perhaps as an overall package the V30 may still pull out for some people-personally I am leaning V30 unless the S8 plus really does hold its performance 6 months after people get their phones.
Tony Tran The V30 is better overall, IMO. I'm using a Note 8, but between V30 and Pixel 2XL, I'd choose the V30 without question. Way more features, far better build quality, and more features...for less $!
Google has invested in LG to produce better screens by next year and so has Apple. Both companies need a display supplier of an equivalent quality or else Samsung holds the Monopoly in the market for displays, without which most of smartphones will not be what it is meant to be.
At this price tag it's unacceptable. Was excited for a first Google phone. But no way, specially the low brightness problems and garbage viewing angles.
I agree with you 100%. I received my Pixel 2 XL this morning and I'm very disappointed in the screen. The colors are incredibly flat, significantly more so than my Pixel XL from last year. I didn't think that the blue tint when looking at the screen from an angle would be an issue, but it's very noticeable. I often tilt the phone slightly when reaching across the display, and even the slightest tilt causes the entire display to turn blue. Any update that Google rolls out will have a negligible impact. I very much want to love the phone, but the screen is really ruining an otherwise incredible phone.
Dexter Bentley I would bet anything Google will unlock the color setting to have a more vibrant colors with an update. They have also said they may do it. The blue color shift can not be corrected.
Dexter Bentley I've gotten used to the colors but prefer vibrant. It's the same color as the pixel one with the vibrancy off. Contact google and complain. I plan to. They have said they will release an update if enough complain.
One thing if the colors become more vibrant they may use a warmer tone if this happens the shift may be less blue. Samsung shifts colors when you tilt it but the screen has a warmer tone so it's less noticable.
The Original i have an iPad 12.9 pro right in front of me the new One. I don’t think the colors are great it looks accurate same as the pixel xl 2 but neither I would call vibrant.
Thank you Erica you are my go to you tuber for honest non biased display/screen topics. You have a great eye and your really good at it. Thanks please keep them coming.
BTW, I really wish people would stop referring to these new display ratio phones as 6 (or 6.3) inches. Because of the narrow 18x9 (or 18x5:9) the total area is a lot less than you would expect from a typical 16x9 display size. But I don't hear anyone talking about this. We need a new metric other than screen diagonal if we're going to compare display sizes. How about total area instead? For example, the Nexus 6 (Motorola) and the Pixel 2 XL both have "6 inch" displays. Yet, the Nexus 6 has a total area of *97.9* square cm whereas the Pixel 2 XL only has a total area of *92.6* square cm. That's kind of a big difference! PS - The bezels on the original Nexus 6 (which also had front-facing stereo speakers) were surprisingly thin for its time. In fact, the screen-to-body ratio of the Nexus 6 was 74.1%, which is not much less than the new Pixel 2 XL's 76.4% screen-to-body ratio. However, as an owner of the Nexus 6, I can attest that the OLED display on the Nexus 6 was not very good either.
Agreed. I got the s8 (which I'm returning; it has blue color shift too which I don't care about but am tired of people saying samsung panels are perfect- pfft) and it has such a thin screen horizontally it's a joke. And after turning off the Edge crap (which WILL cause burn-in) the edges of the display serve no purpose, and only cause a HUGE glare from lights on the ceiling or whatever light is behind you. So if you put it on a kickstand or such on your desk, it's so incredibly glare-y, it's stupid. Going to get the pixel 2 xl I believe as one disappointing thing (since I've been windows phone for the passed 4 years) is the bloatware and knox chip to find out if you've rooted/flashed. Just another measure to force crap on people.
I went to Verizon and the color shift really sucks. I cancelled my order. This is a major fail. Good thing it's google and this will not bankrupt the company. I'm going to wait for my next mobile.
f0t0b0y I would too... But I've still got a Note freaking 3. I don't think it'll last another year. And I don't know what to do lol. However. My other choice was the LG V30 which has worse software and also the exact same screen.
I was waiting for this phone as I was passing the previous flagships, but I am so disappointed with those two joke phones, I have a SONY Xperia Z1 since Feb 2014, and I can not wait for the next phone, I think the note 8 is the best phone made this year as it has it all, ( except for the battery). So the note 8 is going to be my choice.
Alex M Yes the Galaxy Nexus which was actually a good phone for the time. I used mine until the Nexus 5 came out. Google should definitely use Samsung again.
They are not going that way... Google and Apple both are investing in LG for their displays. Mass production of quality displays is an issue and currently Samsung holds the monopoly in the market for them. So, whatever Samsung charges, Companies have to pay for it.. Clearly both heavyweights don't want to be dictated terms to them. So they chose the other way around. Build up the competitor...!
TheSizNation definitely,with Samsung's great display and power.thing is this is what I see.HTC has best sound output speakers and headphones,Samsung has best display,Nexus and pixel has best software, Motorola has durability and features.huawei have nice designs,one plus has best budget with high end specs deals.and iPhone has a $70 fast charger.
Did you happen to try the HTC U11? I have always been on the OLED side of things, but wow, the LCD on that phone was gorgeous. There is still hope for LCD fans.
Syed Tauhidul I agree, my pixel 2 xl came in the mail today and the screen is awful my HTC 10 super LCD display puts the pixel 2 xl display to shame. I would whole lot rather it have a super LCD display than the LG display it's got now that constantly changes colors smh other than that the pixel is a fantastic phone.
You're spot on. The color shift on the Pixel 2 XL was immediately noticeable to me. I was floored by how little I need to move the screen for it to show up. Yes, if I look straight at the phone it is ok but I frequently sneak a text under my desk at work or check my phone when its plugged in at a stop light and there are many scenarios that I will not be holding the phone directly in front of my face. Within 15 minutes of getting this phone today I was contacting Google customer service to return it. 10 hours later they've yet to get back to me. Very disappointed and I really want to love this phone. I will get the smaller Pixel 2.
T- Smooth A person who goes into the detail and research of each device. Therefore, she knows more - on tht simple fact she bothers to look at the details.
T- Smooth Again, she spends time on the display aspect when reviewing tht phones and she has been for the past six or seven years. Most reviewers just say, "the screen is okay or excellent" and move on. Your argument over qualifications applies to 95% of three mobile tech UA-camrs, so your point slides off without sticking.
Can you tell when a bread taste good or not? Or do you need a degree in bread tasting to do that? Some people have better eye for detail and Erica has a very keen one.
I'm gonna stay with the Pixel xl 1 at least one year more, i really love Pixel 1, i dont like curve screens.... and i hate the design of the smaller pixel 2 lol.
$900-1000 phones should be absolutely perfect. No excuse for removing the headphone jack, lack of wireless charge, lack of expandable storage, and no excuse for thus ugly ass design. Google you disappoint me
Joey Crysel That's not nitpicking. That's called criticism, look up the meaning of that word. These are serious issues that a phone that costs almost 1,000 bucks shouldn't have.
Great stuff Erica. This is a little ridiculous and the perfect reason why Google needs to bring back the Nexus line with mid range prices. I'll use the Nexus 5 ( no, not 5x) as a prime example. When you have a phone that doesn't cost as much as iPhone or Galaxy, you won't be thinking of these things. The Nexus 5 was a great phone with good power with a decent camera and it was $400. When you price your products amongst the big boys you will get judged as such.
Sopon Sirichote yeah the color shift is awful I'm using my pixel 2 xl now that came in the mail today an this display is just unacceptable. I swear the super LCD display on my HTC 10 puts the pixel 2 xl display to shame. I'm going to send it back and probably go with the note 8. And your Guess is as good as mine idk what the hell Google is doing but I know what they should have done and that is let LG make the design and cut a damn deal with Samsung to get some decent panels in their flagships before they hit the store's smh
+Erica Griffin - you are one of the few reviewers calling the screen problem out for what it really is and we respect you for that. Keep up the good work. I always say reputation is built over years and lost in seconds. You my friend have a good reputation. Big Ups.
I share the sentiment, Google was so close to a total ace in the hole with this product. They just missed it by a few features and/or the price. If this was a product that was at this quality but was $300 cheaper, I would've given it a perfect review and overlook the quality control issues.
iPhone 8 is sRGB by default. Mostly it shows sRGB. It supports Display P3 for only a few things such as certain apps where developers embed the profile so the phone knows to honor the P3 color space. Also photos are captured in Apple's Wide color so the gallery will show P3 images. External content encoded in P3 will work as well.
I just performed these exact same tests on my Note 8, and wouldn't you know it - that blue shift when you tilt or rotate happens on arguably the best screen in smartphones. This feels like a tempest in a teapot.
Erica Griffin I can report the blue shift only seems to appear when I have a totally white screen. White with text or other colors don't seem to show the blue shift.
Samsung panels color shift is more warm but their panels definitely do it. This shift on the pixel is a cooler tint so it's more noticeable. I have a xl2 and the screen is fine not Samsung good but no issues with daily use looks good still. If Google releases a update to have more vibrant colors it will be better
The Original I have the pixel XL 1 and pixel XL 2 I agree the shift is alittle to easy. But while I wish it was alittle better the screen is not a bad screen. In fact I was worried but when I got it I have been enjoying the phone. I can see why it would bother some but I don't use my phone's at any Angle but directly to my face so it doesn't bother me much I am keeping the phone and like it so far. I still agree the phone should be 200 bucks cheaper.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank Erica the nerd who likes to film stuff because of your shared infos often are very good and important. You have saved me from buying a defect manufactured unit regarding to screen display yellowish and some greying. Im so glad i subs to your channel. A big thank you from me.
Actually had the Panda Pixel at the Buy Now page and it just churned and never got purchased. Wound up with the Pixel 2 and starting to think it's probably a good thing. Not that I don't like the smaller version...
I haven't used the Pixel 2, but I have used other high end 2017 smartphones, and while they're faster, very rarely are they so much faster to warrant a thousand dollar upgrade. That being said, it appears that the speed is the only thing the Pixel 2 excels at - its build quality and style is just as bad as the first iteration, and most of its other features are standard at this point.
There's not much technology that can be crammed into a phone anymore. Innovations are rare and the few that are there are hard to implement in Mass Production. It'll take time, however a smartphone can easily last a few years without any problems.. 🙂
The only thing? What about photos? What about video stabilisation? And build quality is not bad (yeah, I've seen that test), the materials are very high quality. And btw, software experience is not just a minor thing in there, it might be the most important thing in a phone.
lordsilver14 Photos are great on the plus, as is video stabilization. As for the software experience, it's currently updated to the latest version, same as the S8.
Good thing the iPhone X will have Samsung displays! A shame about the price, I'd actually be interested in the X if it didn't cost $1300 CAD. Nobody's buying the 8 or 8 Plus apparently, according to mobile carriers. If they had OLED displays I'd settle for an 8 Plus I think.
Maybe it's just mine, but after seeing all this I was curious and tested my Nexus 6P. It does the same blue color shifting that the Pixel 2 XL does and I've literally never noticed it because let's be honest....how often are you looking at a mostly white screen?
The 6p does slightly shift but nowhere near to the degree the XL 2 does. Also out of the 3 6ps I owned one of them didn't shift at all. It did always bother me a bit and definitely would on a phone as expensive as the XL 2. My friend is loving his even though the screen bothers him too. There's always a trade off.
dubox37 I had a nexus 6p also and I been noticed it because I’ve always used Samsung phones also. I let it slide because the 6p was only 4 or $500 but now they wanna give us the same display for $100 get the funk outta here.
Personally, I am very happy with my pixel 2 xl performance. Disregarding the whole screen issue the software experience is simply amazing. And the camera is really good, my brother has the note 8 and we've been comparing as far as gaming and in our experience it's pretty close and in the pixel 2's favor as far as software experience. I know the whole screen issue is going to bother a lot of people but for me i don't even notice it, I have the night light mode on almost always and it pretty much fixes the blue tint on mine, not to mention on my particular phone the blue tint isn't as bad as others I've seen. In the end I think this was a great buy and was extremely worth it ( in my opinion) despite the screen issue which Google is already working on an update for.
Better than glass, that shatters on first drop. Glass is a step backwards. Nexus 4 had a glass back, as did iPhone 4. I thought we had moved on from that and said metal backs were the best. Primer on top is acceptable if you want good grip, but I could see that being considered a tad much.
Good video on the displays great info I should be getting mine next week getting the pixel XL 2 looking forward to doing a hands on myself. The little pixel 2 is starting to grow on me
Google knew of the quality of those LG displays, but still insisted on charging $1,000. I won't spend my hard earned money on any Google phone anytime soon. They don't have the quality that they think they have.
Why would anyone downgrade this video? I find it to be very factual and neutral. I have pre-ordered my 2 XL and it should be here this week. However, now that I've seen some of the reviews, I'm probably going to be sending it back. Especially after playing with a Note 8. It's a shame, because I really wanted the pure Google experience, but not at the expense of a poor screen. I was already on the fence when I lost the headphone jack and non expandable storage. With this issue, I'm not finding any redeeming qualities to the 2 XL.
After reading everyone's comments, and thinking about it again.... I just cancelled my order. The tech person in me said give it a try (you have 15 days), but in the end, this phone just doesn't seem worth a thousand bucks.
I agree on the color shifting issue. I will say display color and photo color accuracy is better than iPhone when I analyze photos from both phones in Adobe Lightroom
I strongly agree with you. I almost got the phone, but after doing some research about the phone and especially the screen, I decided not to buy it after all. Come on, who's going to spend over a $1000 with that shitty display? What Happened to google? How can they be so dumb? the phone offers so many useful features, but they got it all wrong with this display. It is such a shame because I also wanted to love that phone but the screen sucks. So sad!
There are so much bezels on the Pixel XL 2 the rounded corner screen looks stupid. There is no reason for it to be rounded other than following the trend.
Hey, thanks for being honest in your review. I've watched maybe 10 other reviews (including very popular tech reviewers) and NONE of them covered this issue. The first time I heard about it was a comment on reddit and now for the first time I finally see a video covering this issue. I'm pretty disappointed that this particular problem got so little attention, especially considering that the phone is basically perfect otherwise. I already put in my order for the 2 XL, but next time I will definitely need to be more careful before ordering.
Sneaky Sly I agree I watched it and its cheaply made too wow so now there hardware is not well made and the display is crap. I think I will be sticking with my Apples 🍎
Great video, can't wait for the full review, especially the smaller Pixel 2. Particularly call quality, Bluetooth connection issues, and video audio recording quality. Would absolutely love your opinion on the Razer phone as well. Keep up the great work Erica!
ahanna crisham The V30 has the same display issues as the Pixel 2 XL. How is that better? At least the V30 has a headphone jack and quad DAC, but considering the screen is the thing you interact with all the time on a phone, I'd say an inferior display makes it not an option. Guess I'll wait another year to replace my S7 Edge... if the battery lasts that long, anyway. (Hopefully Oreo will save me... lost 30% in two hours.)
Was gonna get a pixel 2 xl. Then I was gonna get the V30 after hearing of the display and stuff. Then I found out they're both LG's display. Does anyone know if the V30's is this bad? Cause if it is I might just go for a Galaxy, even though I'm not a huge fan of Samsung's Android skin (at least the last time I used it which was on an S7)
I have LG v30. Impressed by it after being with iPhones forever. I didn't notice the screen issue she stated. And I still do t see it. I love the screen on v30
I have to say I've been watching your videos for quite some time and I just find them so very informative. The fact that you explain everything and so much detail and show everything that exemplifies why you feel a certain way about a phone really speaks to me on a personal level. because I have a lot of trouble really making the best decision. I had my mind set on the XL for quite some time and when I heard all the complaints I decided to go with the smaller Phone. I'm very excited to finally get a phone that I can manage in one hand easily it has the pure Google . I'm wondering is it the one you plan use as your daily driver .
I always look forward for your videos. I love how you test the display since it's the one thing you will always look at in a phone. From my experience with the various phones I have had. People notice the quality fairly quickly especially when you have a phone that has vivid more saturated colors like a Samsung display and then you go over to say a Pixel and you just notice the difference. My experience tells me I wouldn't like that difference, so I canceled my Pixel order. I can't justify paying a grand for a phone that has a display of that quality especially when Google says they MAY include a fix for the display if enough people ask for it.
S Saini Huawei had that even earlier on their 1st gen AW Watch. I don't like it, but apparently, it's an OLED thing. Samsung provided options to mitigate it by allowing you to adjust the white point. The problem here though, is that it goes beyond just that.
I went into a Carphone Warehouse shop earlier today to have a look at the new Pixel phones. Only the Pixel 2 was on show and no sign of the Pixel 2 XL. I asked why and was told that they had been told by their Head Office to remove them from displays and hang on to them in case there was a recall. Interesting as Carphone Warehouse are one of the biggest phone retailers in the UK.
I really liked your work. Finally, someone who honestly and openly acknowledges the issues that matter! Otherwise, I just watched Marques' Pixel review and it's far from helpful. Sure he knows how to operate his expensive camera! However, when it comes to reviewing, it's better to understand that a lot of people do what is a virtual version of window-shopping via channels like yours and Marques'. And quite a lot of them actually end up buying. Therefore, being considerate is the key much valued. Because unlike reviewers, most people are stuck with a phone for quite some time. And in that case, it is a big deal when something as significant as a display starts to disappoint. Yes, that same display which your favourite reviewer ticked-off.
ibol13 it's a pity, yes. I wish Nexus phones to be back. It'll not only give Google a different segment of consumers but also give a choice against One Plus devices!
i was almost dead set on the google xl 2 and was going to preorder a few weeks ago, but thankfully i decided to wait and see some more reviews once more people had them in their hands. I'm glad i waited. I'm hearing lots of negatives about the screen now and the color shifting. Going to forget about this phone now and choose something else.
I have one, and didn't notice it until the pixel 2 xl screen comments. Now I see it on the s8 clear as day. I find it so hard now since I stare at plain white screens all day. :|
I ditched the s8, razer phone is so incredibly better than either the pixel 2 or the s8. It's like comparing laptops to the triple screened razer laptop, it's really that big of a difference.
Thanks for the comparison, the blueish tone was very clear. I have an LG V10 and they don't have that tone. Google should hopefully fix it with an update soon
I'd say the OnePlus 5/5T would be closer. Essential phone has terrible reviews and has only sold about 5000 devices.. I was gonna get the Pixel 2 XL, but got the original Pixel XL for half the price.
Google says their Pixels are DCI-P3 but they have locked them to sRGB. Not sure why the mistake. If you are unsure about what I say, just go to a Verizon store if you can and see how you feel. It's what you feel that matters. I just show some reproducible measurements to give you an idea of what's going on.
Erica Griffin ᵒᵒᶠ ᵍʳᵉᵃᵗ ᵛᶦᵈᵉᵒ :﹚
Can you please teach me how do you plot the "color graph" for the displays of your phone?
Thank you!
Erica Griffin Erica, how did you get that dark theme on the note 8?
Google pixel 2 don't launch here, and it sales more than$1200 for an 128GB Google pixel 2 XL
Hope you know that many of us really appreciate your work.
You know you're ballin' when you "accidentally" buy 2 pixel xls 🤑🤑
She probably got these for free
Jb Sprinkles she accidentally bought the second one
Right? 😂
How does one "accidentally" buy a $1000 phone, much less not realize it before the phone arrives to their doorsteps?
Lol
There's always something that a company messes up on ....whether it be bad screen, small battery, no headphone jack, single mono speaker ...never fails
Kenny 92 The Huawei Mate 9 Pro is probably the best device on the market.
Jaylen Thrash , you're probably right on that one!
Jaylen Thrash
You mean mate 10 pro?
Bill Fowler Possibly. No headphone jack. But I'm excited for it. If Huawei overtook Samsung I'd be happy.
Jaylen Thrash yeah but you think the mate 9 is a perfect phone? I have not seen it myself but there's 1 place where most phones fail at and that is updates,does the mate 9 even get updates.
I was waiting to hear Erica's take on the display issue. Nobody scrutinizes displays as thoroughly. She has spoken, and the question of an issue is settled. Frankly, I'm surprised she stayed as cool as she did; over $1000 for _that_ ....
Leibo R Raibstein I was waiting for Erica's response as well. She goes well beyond any reviewer as far as color calibration.
Yeah, I'm waiting to see her review of the retail unit of the V30. Already she says that Samsung's is better, but perhaps as an overall package the V30 may still pull out for some people-personally I am leaning V30 unless the S8 plus really does hold its performance 6 months after people get their phones.
Tony Tran The V30 is better overall, IMO. I'm using a Note 8, but between V30 and Pixel 2XL, I'd choose the V30 without question. Way more features, far better build quality, and more features...for less $!
Why you so mad?
T- Smooth not that it's worth it to you but I have a degree BS in human computer interaction.
I'm no apple fan but I bet they are glad they chose samsung to supply the iPhone x display
But even Samsung are having issues producing it
Pixel they give you options to control the colour balance in the settings at least though. Apple definitly made the right choice using Samsung.
John Gardner But rumor has it they're going with LG in 2019. I hope they're paying attention.
Leibo R Raibstein that will be a big mistake.
Google must have sampled some lg displays before deciding to use them.
They should have stayed with HTC for both the Pixel 2 and Pixel XL 2.
Delain124 Bezels.
Pixel That's Google's fault not HTC.
Delain124 why didn't they collaborate with Samsung?🤔
They should have chosen Samsung displays for both, at least.
Google has invested in LG to produce better screens by next year and so has Apple. Both companies need a display supplier of an equivalent quality or else Samsung holds the Monopoly in the market for displays, without which most of smartphones will not be what it is meant to be.
At this price tag it's unacceptable. Was excited for a first Google phone. But no way, specially the low brightness problems and garbage viewing angles.
This is the pixel 2... The first Google phone is the pixel 1.
Frank Wong I would buy it used in mint condition, you can get it on eBay or something like that quite cheaper compared to the manufacturer price
Brenda princesa Lindaa I think he meant HIS first google phone. Read.
duhFlash Oh...
Well I think it's a better deal to buy the first Pixel/xl anyway!
Brenda princesa Lindaa can't go wrong with the first either lol
I've waiting for this video because you're the best display expert! :)
I agree
Expert is an over statement when she says the panel by Samsung is better when it oversaturated
not talking about the color calibration, but the panels themselves dude.
I agree with you 100%. I received my Pixel 2 XL this morning and I'm very disappointed in the screen. The colors are incredibly flat, significantly more so than my Pixel XL from last year. I didn't think that the blue tint when looking at the screen from an angle would be an issue, but it's very noticeable. I often tilt the phone slightly when reaching across the display, and even the slightest tilt causes the entire display to turn blue. Any update that Google rolls out will have a negligible impact. I very much want to love the phone, but the screen is really ruining an otherwise incredible phone.
Dexter Bentley I would bet anything Google will unlock the color setting to have a more vibrant colors with an update. They have also said they may do it. The blue color shift can not be corrected.
I hope so. I can reluctantly tolerate the blue shift, but the dull colors are bit too much for me.
Dexter Bentley I've gotten used to the colors but prefer vibrant. It's the same color as the pixel one with the vibrancy off. Contact google and complain. I plan to. They have said they will release an update if enough complain.
One thing if the colors become more vibrant they may use a warmer tone if this happens the shift may be less blue. Samsung shifts colors when you tilt it but the screen has a warmer tone so it's less noticable.
The Original i have an iPad 12.9 pro right in front of me the new One. I don’t think the colors are great it looks accurate same as the pixel xl 2 but neither I would call vibrant.
I love that you take the time to investigate those details very few people are talking about, great work!
I was so excited to get the pixel XL , so now I'm going for the note 8. Thanks for help
There is still the Pixel 2 out there, that doesn't have these problems :).
Maybe next year I will try pixel 3, and also Samsung give me $200 prepayed master card
give it to me 🤑🙃
Thank you Erica you are my go to you tuber for honest non biased display/screen topics. You have a great eye and your really good at it. Thanks please keep them coming.
BTW, I really wish people would stop referring to these new display ratio phones as 6 (or 6.3) inches. Because of the narrow 18x9 (or 18x5:9) the total area is a lot less than you would expect from a typical 16x9 display size. But I don't hear anyone talking about this. We need a new metric other than screen diagonal if we're going to compare display sizes. How about total area instead? For example, the Nexus 6 (Motorola) and the Pixel 2 XL both have "6 inch" displays. Yet, the Nexus 6 has a total area of *97.9* square cm whereas the Pixel 2 XL only has a total area of *92.6* square cm. That's kind of a big difference!
PS - The bezels on the original Nexus 6 (which also had front-facing stereo speakers) were surprisingly thin for its time. In fact, the screen-to-body ratio of the Nexus 6 was 74.1%, which is not much less than the new Pixel 2 XL's 76.4% screen-to-body ratio. However, as an owner of the Nexus 6, I can attest that the OLED display on the Nexus 6 was not very good either.
Agreed. I got the s8 (which I'm returning; it has blue color shift too which I don't care about but am tired of people saying samsung panels are perfect- pfft) and it has such a thin screen horizontally it's a joke. And after turning off the Edge crap (which WILL cause burn-in) the edges of the display serve no purpose, and only cause a HUGE glare from lights on the ceiling or whatever light is behind you. So if you put it on a kickstand or such on your desk, it's so incredibly glare-y, it's stupid. Going to get the pixel 2 xl I believe as one disappointing thing (since I've been windows phone for the passed 4 years) is the bloatware and knox chip to find out if you've rooted/flashed. Just another measure to force crap on people.
I went to Verizon and the color shift really sucks. I cancelled my order. This is a major fail. Good thing it's google and this will not bankrupt the company. I'm going to wait for my next mobile.
f0t0b0y I would too... But I've still got a Note freaking 3. I don't think it'll last another year. And I don't know what to do lol. However. My other choice was the LG V30 which has worse software and also the exact same screen.
kbg12ila I have the normal s8 and im very happy with everything , and its not that expensive now
I was waiting for this phone as I was passing the previous flagships, but I am so disappointed with those two joke phones, I have a SONY Xperia Z1 since Feb 2014, and I can not wait for the next phone, I think the note 8 is the best phone made this year as it has it all, ( except for the battery). So the note 8 is going to be my choice.
kbg12ila why not get the Note 8... It's the king lol
OUTLAW... smart man. The note 8 is a beautiful phone. All reviewers are loving it. It's always the comparison for new phones to TRY and beat.
Can't wait till my Pixel 2 XL arrive next week
Google please do a partnership with Samsung ughhh they have the best hardware and you have the best software just dooo ittt
Fairyplay didn't they partnered up back then to make a Nexus phone?
Alex M Yes the Galaxy Nexus which was actually a good phone for the time. I used mine until the Nexus 5 came out. Google should definitely use Samsung again.
They are not going that way... Google and Apple both are investing in LG for their displays. Mass production of quality displays is an issue and currently Samsung holds the monopoly in the market for them. So, whatever Samsung charges, Companies have to pay for it..
Clearly both heavyweights don't want to be dictated terms to them. So they chose the other way around.
Build up the competitor...!
TheSizNation definitely,with Samsung's great display and power.thing is this is what I see.HTC has best sound output speakers and headphones,Samsung has best display,Nexus and pixel has best software, Motorola has durability and features.huawei have nice designs,one plus has best budget with high end specs deals.and iPhone has a $70 fast charger.
Samsung display is holding the monopoly on Oled panels and Samsung Electronics is holding the monopoly of ram.
I'd preferred a good LCD over this "decent" enough OLED. Specially at this price point.
Syed Tauhidul I don't think you can say it's decent enough if you take into account the price of the phone.
Jorgensen Penus I agree. In addition to the price the pixels were supposed to be the iPhone of the android world. What an utter disappointment.
Did you happen to try the HTC U11? I have always been on the OLED side of things, but wow, the LCD on that phone was gorgeous. There is still hope for LCD fans.
Syed Tauhidul yes they should have done that ... The LCD panel on the LG g6 looks really good
Syed Tauhidul I agree, my pixel 2 xl came in the mail today and the screen is awful my HTC 10 super LCD display puts the pixel 2 xl display to shame. I would whole lot rather it have a super LCD display than the LG display it's got now that constantly changes colors smh other than that the pixel is a fantastic phone.
You're spot on. The color shift on the Pixel 2 XL was immediately noticeable to me. I was floored by how little I need to move the screen for it to show up. Yes, if I look straight at the phone it is ok but I frequently sneak a text under my desk at work or check my phone when its plugged in at a stop light and there are many scenarios that I will not be holding the phone directly in front of my face. Within 15 minutes of getting this phone today I was contacting Google customer service to return it. 10 hours later they've yet to get back to me. Very disappointed and I really want to love this phone. I will get the smaller Pixel 2.
Been waiting for Erica to do this. She knows more about screens than most.
T- Smooth A person who goes into the detail and research of each device. Therefore, she knows more - on tht simple fact she bothers to look at the details.
T- Smooth Again, she spends time on the display aspect when reviewing tht phones and she has been for the past six or seven years. Most reviewers just say, "the screen is okay or excellent" and move on. Your argument over qualifications applies to 95% of three mobile tech UA-camrs, so your point slides off without sticking.
T- Smooth she actually has a university degree that specifically deals with screen quality and calibrations. She mentions it on one her old videos.
Can you tell when a bread taste good or not? Or do you need a degree in bread tasting to do that? Some people have better eye for detail and Erica has a very keen one.
T- Smooth check out Erica Griffin. Com and it says what her degree is.
Nice coverage on this one, and thanks for the detailed info on the XL's screen detail. Keep em coming !
I'm gonna stay with the Pixel xl 1 at least one year more, i really love Pixel 1, i dont like curve screens.... and i hate the design of the smaller pixel 2 lol.
Ivan Martinez I think your Pixel is about to become a hot commodity. Seems much better than the new ones.
I appreciate the work you put into evaluating these displays. Cheers Erica!
$900-1000 phones should be absolutely perfect. No excuse for removing the headphone jack, lack of wireless charge, lack of expandable storage, and no excuse for thus ugly ass design. Google you disappoint me
NITPICKING!!!!!
Joey Crysel That's not nitpicking. That's called criticism, look up the meaning of that word. These are serious issues that a phone that costs almost 1,000 bucks shouldn't have.
note 8?
Great quick unboxing - thanks for diving into the screen issues right away.
Great stuff Erica. This is a little ridiculous and the perfect reason why Google needs to bring back the Nexus line with mid range prices. I'll use the Nexus 5 ( no, not 5x) as a prime example. When you have a phone that doesn't cost as much as iPhone or Galaxy, you won't be thinking of these things. The Nexus 5 was a great phone with good power with a decent camera and it was $400. When you price your products amongst the big boys you will get judged as such.
Thank you Erica, always look forward to your reviews. Super bummed on this but thanks for the solid review.
Color shift look like my 150$ phone
What are they doing
Sopon Sirichote yeah the color shift is awful I'm using my pixel 2 xl now that came in the mail today an this display is just unacceptable. I swear the super LCD display on my HTC 10 puts the pixel 2 xl display to shame. I'm going to send it back and probably go with the note 8. And your Guess is as good as mine idk what the hell Google is doing but I know what they should have done and that is let LG make the design and cut a damn deal with Samsung to get some decent panels in their flagships before they hit the store's smh
But how often are you looking at your phone from that angle? STOP NITPICKING!!!!!
Joey Crysel do you own a pixel 2 XL? People who pay $1000 for a phone are allowed to nitpick as much as they freaking want.
Sukesha Muthuthanthiri I do actually. The phone is solid. All these issues are just people being nitpicky.
Joey Crysel I'll probably buy it too because other than the screen everything else looks really good. But people are allowed to complain bro.
+Erica Griffin - you are one of the few reviewers calling the screen problem out for what it really is and we respect you for that. Keep up the good work. I always say reputation is built over years and lost in seconds. You my friend have a good reputation. Big Ups.
I share the sentiment, Google was so close to a total ace in the hole with this product. They just missed it by a few features and/or the price. If this was a product that was at this quality but was $300 cheaper, I would've given it a perfect review and overlook the quality control issues.
Wow, your unboxing video is more in-depth than other 'reviewers's reviews! Good job Erica!
Don't think I've seen anybody with the panda version yet.
Karl conrad on UA-cam had one on UA-cam he's another tech youtuber
Mkbhd has one
Ash Bethel Somehow that one doesn't surprise me.
*panda panda panda panda*
Ash Bethel no he doesn't. That's a skin
iPhone 8 is sRGB by default. Mostly it shows sRGB. It supports Display P3 for only a few things such as certain apps where developers embed the profile so the phone knows to honor the P3 color space. Also photos are captured in Apple's Wide color so the gallery will show P3 images. External content encoded in P3 will work as well.
I just performed these exact same tests on my Note 8, and wouldn't you know it - that blue shift when you tilt or rotate happens on arguably the best screen in smartphones. This feels like a tempest in a teapot.
+John Frazier if it does it can't be as bad. If it is go exchange it! My Note is fantastic.
Erica Griffin I can report the blue shift only seems to appear when I have a totally white screen. White with text or other colors don't seem to show the blue shift.
Erica Griffin I sent my note 8 in for repair because the top half of my screen had a slight red tint.
Samsung panels color shift is more warm but their panels definitely do it. This shift on the pixel is a cooler tint so it's more noticeable. I have a xl2 and the screen is fine not Samsung good but no issues with daily use looks good still. If Google releases a update to have more vibrant colors it will be better
The Original I have the pixel XL 1 and pixel XL 2 I agree the shift is alittle to easy. But while I wish it was alittle better the screen is not a bad screen. In fact I was worried but when I got it I have been enjoying the phone. I can see why it would bother some but I don't use my phone's at any Angle but directly to my face so it doesn't bother me much I am keeping the phone and like it so far. I still agree the phone should be 200 bucks cheaper.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank Erica the nerd who likes to film stuff because of your shared infos often are very good and important. You have saved me from buying a defect manufactured unit regarding to screen display yellowish and some greying. Im so glad i subs to your channel. A big thank you from me.
Actually had the Panda Pixel at the Buy Now page and it just churned and never got purchased. Wound up with the Pixel 2 and starting to think it's probably a good thing. Not that I don't like the smaller version...
What I've herd the panels on new Pixel 2 XLs have been fixed. My pixel 2 xl has no blue shift at all the screen is pretty much perfect
Got mine on the 19th from preorder.. love mine.
Thanks Erica . I look forward to your in depth XL review
Don't let them mean Googlers ban you from Reddit because of you busting their fantasy bubble about that myth that Google made products are perfect.
James M lmao what? Have you been to r/android? It's shifting on the pixelc
Adam Rosenberg There's no telling.
I was waiting for the queen of display calibration’s opinion 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Honestly the market has been moving forward at a snail's pace lately. I'm still waiting for a *signifigant* reason to upgrade from my S6 Edge plus.
Try and use a Pixel 2 anywhere (maybe in a Verizon store). You'll change your mind when you'll see how fast is it compared with your phone.
I haven't used the Pixel 2, but I have used other high end 2017 smartphones, and while they're faster, very rarely are they so much faster to warrant a thousand dollar upgrade. That being said, it appears that the speed is the only thing the Pixel 2 excels at - its build quality and style is just as bad as the first iteration, and most of its other features are standard at this point.
There's not much technology that can be crammed into a phone anymore. Innovations are rare and the few that are there are hard to implement in Mass Production.
It'll take time, however a smartphone can easily last a few years without any problems..
🙂
The only thing? What about photos? What about video stabilisation? And build quality is not bad (yeah, I've seen that test), the materials are very high quality. And btw, software experience is not just a minor thing in there, it might be the most important thing in a phone.
lordsilver14 Photos are great on the plus, as is video stabilization. As for the software experience, it's currently updated to the latest version, same as the S8.
Thank you for doing this video so quickly! I'm also very devastated..
Nice job, Google. Charging 1000 dollars for a shit display defect!
Trevor Clauss pixel 2 use plastic body too
No it doesn’t. It’s metal with a coating
Its not plastic, its metal thats painted
iPhone x is prolly better
800*
Now what I was waiting for...the best reviewer in the UA-cam community..she will break it down like it is.
I’ve owned a lot of apple products but to be honest even though I’m kinda stuck in the iOS ecosystem, I believe Samsung is doing a very good job.
Good thing the iPhone X will have Samsung displays!
A shame about the price, I'd actually be interested in the X if it didn't cost $1300 CAD. Nobody's buying the 8 or 8 Plus apparently, according to mobile carriers. If they had OLED displays I'd settle for an 8 Plus I think.
Sergiu Gusetu they're doing a superb job
Sergiu Gusetu
Lol ecosystem, that's all in your head
The Apple ecosystem is hard to get out of, especially when you rely on it for work.
You might wanna stay at Apple's ecosystem. Touchwiz is just...really...bad.
Awesome screen review love how you actually did tests unlike other reviewers.
"There is no colour shifting on the smaller phone", yet I see the same kind of shifting in the video... Might not be the same IRL?
I have the pixel 2, can confirm it does not have the same blue hue as the XL
As I seen, it is green shift versus blue shift.
Do the colors look vivid or washed out?
I always enjoy your informative videos. Keep up the good work!
Maybe it's just mine, but after seeing all this I was curious and tested my Nexus 6P. It does the same blue color shifting that the Pixel 2 XL does and I've literally never noticed it because let's be honest....how often are you looking at a mostly white screen?
dubox37 just did the same thing and you're right. Maybe the xl's shift is to a greater degree?
Yeah, Nexus 6P is known for having that problem too, but on the Pixel 2 XL that problem is even worse, sadly.
lordsilver14 ya I saw the p2xl at Best buy and the blue tint is way worse than the 6p.
The 6p does slightly shift but nowhere near to the degree the XL 2 does. Also out of the 3 6ps I owned one of them didn't shift at all. It did always bother me a bit and definitely would on a phone as expensive as the XL 2. My friend is loving his even though the screen bothers him too. There's always a trade off.
dubox37 I had a nexus 6p also and I been noticed it because I’ve always used Samsung phones also. I let it slide because the 6p was only 4 or $500 but now they wanna give us the same display for $100 get the funk outta here.
Personally, I am very happy with my pixel 2 xl performance. Disregarding the whole screen issue the software experience is simply amazing. And the camera is really good, my brother has the note 8 and we've been comparing as far as gaming and in our experience it's pretty close and in the pixel 2's favor as far as software experience. I know the whole screen issue is going to bother a lot of people but for me i don't even notice it, I have the night light mode on almost always and it pretty much fixes the blue tint on mine, not to mention on my particular phone the blue tint isn't as bad as others I've seen. In the end I think this was a great buy and was extremely worth it ( in my opinion) despite the screen issue which Google is already working on an update for.
I had similar situation with my S8. Had to get it back and take replacement
Great detailed video as always Erica. Keep up the excellent work.
What is your opinion on pixel having primer and paint on metal?
Better than glass, that shatters on first drop. Glass is a step backwards. Nexus 4 had a glass back, as did iPhone 4. I thought we had moved on from that and said metal backs were the best. Primer on top is acceptable if you want good grip, but I could see that being considered a tad much.
Good video on the displays great info I should be getting mine next week getting the pixel XL 2 looking forward to doing a hands on myself. The little pixel 2 is starting to grow on me
Looks like LG rushed this p-OLED panel.
Shellyman Vol.2 I think lg just wanted to sell more v30 and sabotage google
K Ryusan V30 uses the same panel and it actually seems worse in their phone so very unlikely. I'd chalk it up to more general incompetence from LG.
This is why I'm subscribed to this channel! Thank you Erica!
Google knew of the quality of those LG displays, but still insisted on charging $1,000. I won't spend my hard earned money on any Google phone anytime soon. They don't have the quality that they think they have.
This is the best (Honest) review of the Pixel 2/2XL that I've seen. Great video! thanks for the advice!
Why would anyone downgrade this video? I find it to be very factual and neutral. I have pre-ordered my 2 XL and it should be here this week. However, now that I've seen some of the reviews, I'm probably going to be sending it back. Especially after playing with a Note 8. It's a shame, because I really wanted the pure Google experience, but not at the expense of a poor screen. I was already on the fence when I lost the headphone jack and non expandable storage. With this issue, I'm not finding any redeeming qualities to the 2 XL.
After reading everyone's comments, and thinking about it again.... I just cancelled my order. The tech person in me said give it a try (you have 15 days), but in the end, this phone just doesn't seem worth a thousand bucks.
The video I was waiting for, thank you very much.
I agree on the color shifting issue. I will say display color and photo color accuracy is better than iPhone when I analyze photos from both phones in Adobe Lightroom
+Roberto Blake I have measured the iPhone with a colorimeter and the iPhone is very accurately calibrated to sRGB much more than the pixel. =)
No way
Very good and honest appraisal 👍🏻 We need to know the truth to be informed buyers. Big thank you 😊
I strongly agree with you. I almost got the phone, but after doing some research about the phone and especially the screen, I decided not to buy it after all. Come on, who's going to spend over a $1000 with that shitty display? What Happened to google? How can they be so dumb? the phone offers so many useful features, but they got it all wrong with this display. It is such a shame because I also wanted to love that phone but the screen sucks. So sad!
No down vote Erica. Your the best. When I heard about screen issues I waited for your word. Thanks.
There are so much bezels on the Pixel XL 2 the rounded corner screen looks stupid. There is no reason for it to be rounded other than following the trend.
Hey, thanks for being honest in your review. I've watched maybe 10 other reviews (including very popular tech reviewers) and NONE of them covered this issue. The first time I heard about it was a comment on reddit and now for the first time I finally see a video covering this issue. I'm pretty disappointed that this particular problem got so little attention, especially considering that the phone is basically perfect otherwise. I already put in my order for the 2 XL, but next time I will definitely need to be more careful before ordering.
you should check out jerryrigs durability test, the pixel 2 is terrible
He hasn't tested the XL yet.
Pixel Same shit.
Sneaky Sly I agree it does suck and I was looking forward to this expensive piece of junk. Disapponted in google for so many reasons on this phone.
Sneaky Sly imo the only thing is test is really worth is the screen scratching which it was fine in
Sneaky Sly I agree I watched it and its cheaply made too wow so now there hardware is not well made and the display is crap. I think I will be sticking with my Apples 🍎
Great video, can't wait for the full review, especially the smaller Pixel 2. Particularly call quality, Bluetooth connection issues, and video audio recording quality. Would absolutely love your opinion on the Razer phone as well. Keep up the great work Erica!
I think I'm gonna pass on this phone lol
Ludamus lg v30
yeah so same screen as Pixel but inferior software? Pass
ahanna crisham The V30 has the same display issues as the Pixel 2 XL. How is that better?
At least the V30 has a headphone jack and quad DAC, but considering the screen is the thing you interact with all the time on a phone, I'd say an inferior display makes it not an option.
Guess I'll wait another year to replace my S7 Edge... if the battery lasts that long, anyway. (Hopefully Oreo will save me... lost 30% in two hours.)
You can fix the color on the setting i work so you dont have the green
You idiots talk as if the LG screen was a piece of crap, just because it's supposedly behind the Samsung one a bit.
I was patiently waiting for you to talk about the display issues I've heard about. Noone talks about displays like you
Was gonna get a pixel 2 xl. Then I was gonna get the V30 after hearing of the display and stuff. Then I found out they're both LG's display. Does anyone know if the V30's is this bad? Cause if it is I might just go for a Galaxy, even though I'm not a huge fan of Samsung's Android skin (at least the last time I used it which was on an S7)
ZerrazoidArt there’s color shift on V30 as well
ZerrazoidArt Wait for the Mate 10 Pro.
LG V30's display is even worse. Go with the Pixel 2 (smaller one).
Thanks for the info. I'm thinking I'm just gonna go with the S8+. Can't upgrade till April anyway so I have plenty of time to decide :)
I have LG v30. Impressed by it after being with iPhones forever. I didn't notice the screen issue she stated. And I still do t see it. I love the screen on v30
Thanks for this Erica! You're the 2nd person I trust the most for phone screen quality assessment (with myself being the 1st! Haha)
I love my note 8, happy I didn't get the pixel 2
Austin Morrow same
Same
same
Same
Can't wait to get rid of my S8 for the Pixel 2 XL.
Excellent review! Your pretty much the "go to" for screen quality.
Thanks for this, Erica. You're the most trustworthy voice on UA-cam when it comes to displays. :)
Google will not listen, nor make a refresh version of XL version. too bad that you need to wait another year for another version of Pixel.
Rui Cayanan only way google will listen if everyone cancel there orders n return there phones. But there's so many people accepting the blue tint.
you're a genius at what you do Erica keep it up.
Maybe return it and get your money back🤔🤔
I love the fact that your honest you fit my subscription and a like
No-no-no! You're holding it wrong.
I have to say I've been watching your videos for quite some time and I just find them so very informative. The fact that you explain everything and so much detail and show everything that exemplifies why you feel a certain way about a phone really speaks to me on a personal level. because I have a lot of trouble really making the best decision. I had my mind set on the XL for quite some time and when I heard all the complaints I decided to go with the smaller Phone. I'm very excited to finally get a phone that I can manage in one hand easily it has the pure Google . I'm wondering is it the one you plan use as your daily driver .
It's not that bad. But still if you don't like it. Give it to me
I always look forward for your videos. I love how you test the display since it's the one thing you will always look at in a phone. From my experience with the various phones I have had. People notice the quality fairly quickly especially when you have a phone that has vivid more saturated colors like a Samsung display and then you go over to say a Pixel and you just notice the difference. My experience tells me I wouldn't like that difference, so I canceled my Pixel order. I can't justify paying a grand for a phone that has a display of that quality especially when Google says they MAY include a fix for the display if enough people ask for it.
Remember the Samsung Red Tint issues?
S Saini Huawei had that even earlier on their 1st gen AW Watch. I don't like it, but apparently, it's an OLED thing. Samsung provided options to mitigate it by allowing you to adjust the white point. The problem here though, is that it goes beyond just that.
No.
Never heard of it
S Saini fixed with one software update 3 days after it came out whats your point?
Yup, I remember very well.
I went into a Carphone Warehouse shop earlier today to have a look at the new Pixel phones. Only the Pixel 2 was on show and no sign of the Pixel 2 XL. I asked why and was told that they had been told by their Head Office to remove them from displays and hang on to them in case there was a recall. Interesting as Carphone Warehouse are one of the biggest phone retailers in the UK.
+Al Reid now you guys see that I wasn't exaggerating
Why didn't you get the Panda edition Erica?
I really liked your work. Finally, someone who honestly and openly acknowledges the issues that matter!
Otherwise, I just watched Marques' Pixel review and it's far from helpful. Sure he knows how to operate his expensive camera! However, when it comes to reviewing, it's better to understand that a lot of people do what is a virtual version of window-shopping via channels like yours and Marques'. And quite a lot of them actually end up buying. Therefore, being considerate is the key much valued. Because unlike reviewers, most people are stuck with a phone for quite some time. And in that case, it is a big deal when something as significant as a display starts to disappoint. Yes, that same display which your favourite reviewer ticked-off.
I tried to love my 2 XL, but i rma'd it today because of the blue shift...
I've got the Pixel 2 XL and love it. No issues with the display.
I hate to say it, but I think that OnePlus is making a better Nexus successor than Google. Disgraceful.
ibol13 it's a pity, yes.
I wish Nexus phones to be back. It'll not only give Google a different segment of consumers but also give a choice against One Plus devices!
ibol13 there not making any phone right now apparently
i was almost dead set on the google xl 2 and was going to preorder a few weeks ago, but thankfully i decided to wait and see some more reviews once more people had them in their hands. I'm glad i waited. I'm hearing lots of negatives about the screen now and the color shifting. Going to forget about this phone now and choose something else.
Are you going to check out the Essential Phone?
bad camera
Love your super detailed reviews!!
When is your pixel 2 review coming out, want to know your thoughts on the smaller Pixel.
S8 looks much better.
I have one, and didn't notice it until the pixel 2 xl screen comments. Now I see it on the s8 clear as day. I find it so hard now since I stare at plain white screens all day. :|
joseph james pixel owners don't care
I ditched the s8, razer phone is so incredibly better than either the pixel 2 or the s8. It's like comparing laptops to the triple screened razer laptop, it's really that big of a difference.
joseph james - I traded in my S8 for the Pixel 2 XL and very glad I did!
IDK if it matters but your honesty just got you a new subscriber
This..this is why I didn't order... Was waiting for Erica to check the phones out... Thanks
Thanks for the comparison, the blueish tone was very clear. I have an LG V10 and they don't have that tone. Google should hopefully fix it with an update soon
Just buy the Note8 people. Anyone who can afford it should have one in their pocket.
Karim Salloum the note 8 is the best phone out and a work horse
No thanks, dont want that samsung software. Maybe Pixel from last year?
Jorgensen Penus Not bad at all, don't let the past influence you...
Jorgensen Penus it's not like old times. It's actually pretty good now
I have the s8+, and hate the edge screens so that eliminates the note for me. Lag here and there
I like how the panda colour is already sold out even though it looks like a toy with the black, white and orange buttons
At $599 at Best Buy , rapid updates, and stock Android the Essential Phone now seems like a good value.
Pepe no water resistance, bad camera. Remember that
Perhaps whatever is the next offering of Oneplus...
TreBpro camera has gotten drastically better with updates rolled out for it
esential phone is as ugly as the iphone x
I'd say the OnePlus 5/5T would be closer. Essential phone has terrible reviews and has only sold about 5000 devices.. I was gonna get the Pixel 2 XL, but got the original Pixel XL for half the price.