Part 1: Jon's F80 M3 SPUN CRANK HUB DISASTER to FULLY BUILT MONSTER, COMPLETE WITH CAMS
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
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Snow Performance Meth Injection: SNOW PERFORMANCE STAGE 3 BOOST COOLER EFI 2D MAP PROGRESSIVE WATER-METHANOL INJECTION KIT
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Hey Everyone,
If you're new to this car, this is Jon's Pure Stage 2 (original stage 2) F80 M3. The car had turbos, intakes, downpipe, dinan midpipe, MPE exhaust, and a snow performance meth injection kit running M1 from VP racing on Bootmod3, tuned by Paul Johnson on E85. The car had a ton of power and was a monster on the street... until the hub spun mid pull and the valves collided and the motor suffered catastrophic motor failure.
Instead of putting in another stock motor, we took the opportunity to bullet proof the motor with a Carbahn Stage 2 motor! Stay tuned as we break the motor in, throw on a few other modifications and get this car dyno tuned!
See the links at the top for the products we installed, in addition to links for some helpful tools!
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Bryan
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It’s amazing what you guys do there. I’m still happy with the crank hub install you did for me last year! Not afraid to push the car now!
Its beyond crazy how smart you actually have to be to work on a car. Bryan's a true surgeon
I love this project and cannot wait for part 2
What i found insane is the channel not having at least half a million subs. So much production and dedication to it deserves at least half a million subs!
Watching you dolly the car up makes me so appreciative of people who care for their customer's car. My F80 went into limp mode because of a hole in my gas tank and I had it towed to the nearest dealer. When I came in to check on the work I noticed a huge scratch on the rear fender from them trying to get it into the shop. They fixed it with a 3rd party body shop on their dime but it's nice to see this level of care.
I swear, the intro music gives me goosebumps everytime!
Bimmer guy: I’am running bootmod 3, high boost and all the works including full exhaust system and Dyno at 600 hp..
Crank hub : hold my beer.
This was a seriously good video to watch. Talk about some mechanic knowledge with that engine build!
Amazing content as usual Bryan. Still need to do a crankhub upgrade on my F80 but I'm not pushing over 500hp or the car to its limit. Will definitely prioritize that when the time comes.
Very cool video format! I really like the longer vids of your work 👍🏻
Wow guys you guys do amazing job at kies Motorsport.. I am glad if I have questions of concerns you guys are able to help us... thank you guys!!! 😊🔧☝️
Brian, you guys have done an amazing job. You've accomplished so much since I started following you when you had that F30 328i!
I can't wait to take the delivery of my M2C some time this summer, and get some goodies for it from you!
Great Job! Always good videos, informative, and great energy. Always a blast to watch. Thanks Kies!
Hello from malaysia. Really cool video. I'm still living dangerously - Got the VTT crankhub and crankbolt capture kit sitting on my desk at home and not in the car. Nobody here dares to drill crankhubs so had to go with a non keyed one. I'm waiting till my next fluid change to get it all done. Here's hoping it holds out till then :)
Awesome thanks for posting 👍
it is nice too see a team work,.i just done a 335 engine by my self. it is not a mission impassible but it is not just a brake job or oil change, you do need another person assist you for heavy lifting or spot something catching on the way. and also having all the equiment to work with too. we dont even have a transmission jack, so sad 😔.
Great content! I wish you all were located in Alabama. There are so many BMW's here in Huntsville. Ton's of M cars.
Great video! Any idea what the car was pushing when it blew then CH?
Love seeing some cross coast collaboration! Rhetorical question at this point, but why was he running a stage 2 turbo setup with an e85 tune without an upgraded hub (or at least a CBC)??? That type of power is clearly outside the bounds of what the hub assembly is intended to handle. Anyway, excited for the next segment :)
Being that he had the original PS2 turbos, I would presume his car was built before the Crank Hub was known as a widespread problem.
People run high hp tunes for years on these cars without upgrading the crank hub. There’s no guarantee it’ll last but it’s also not an issue that plagues 100% of cars
@@boostedoctane8041 It's not a widespread problem within the reasonable bounds of stock power levels; many people have been running stage 2 tunes with no issues. This guy seems to be pushing big power with stage 2 turbos, meth injection, and E85 but not upgrade the hub... even going back to the N54 days, this is know as a potential item to address in that situation; hubs are not recent news. I just think its funny that there are people running big power mods and complaining about hubs spinning and trying to characterize it as a "design flaw" when they are pushing way more than what the OE assembly is meant for.
@@cokemachine62590 Agreed, absolutely not an endemic issue. It just seems that in this specific fact set (Stage 2 turbos, meth, E85), it's an item that probably should have been addressed
how much HP had blew engine,i think 700HP??? lots of s55 riding nurburgring but stock power or max 380kw and no problem...
Man, thx. Really enjoy watching!
Waw a carbon fibre driveshaft 😯. Is it on all f80 gen M3's and M4's?
Till 2017 November every F8x platform has a carbon one. Because of emission regulations, they changed from the carbon to a steel one to make space for the PPF (petrol particulate filter).
Until about end of 2017 I think, production was kinda weird about it
🔥🔥 hope to get my M4 channel build like this one day! Thanks for the content!
Every M car seems to have an Achilles heal 😭 I'm curious what the S58's will be.
Stress ...in my 30 yrs working on engines, modified, 50cc, huge 12cyl Detroit’s in boats and I have learnt one thing..stress, no engine will handle stress beyond the capacity of its internals...bearings, pistons, cranks etc...
Even the most bullet proof engines with all forged components will fail under high boost so the “Achilles heal “ will be stress failure from too much boost..
All the people touting the high output of s58 with simple tune and pipes, pushing 700hp should remember one thing, that simple tune is adding higher boost and that engine is gonna blow ..
It's already heard crank bearing issues. 🥺
The front grille I reckon
It's making 1000hp on stock internals and port injection....
You guys are super awesome love your work👊
Where can I find information on how to remove a s55 engine
Always informative keep it up bro 👍🏽
Hello @KiesMotorsports , I have a stock F80 M3 CS from 2018. I don't plan on modding it, it's a daily drive car, not for track, sometimes more aggressive on highways with some down shifts. Should I be worried about crank hub? Cheers
What a beauty!!
I need to get this done also that M4 GTS exhaust sounds nice.
Crazy, cant wait to hear how it sounds
Seems like most of the spun hub fails have had very loose nuts.
CBC might have helped?
Hello Bryan!!! Nice video! Congrats!!! I have a question? Only CBC was installed in the crank hub or fully uprade??
Hi Brian what year is the m3? Thanks
Does your shop taking appointments in July for crank hub upgrade? I've had the part for a year now and been dogging my m4 and it's time to install
4 water pumps, 4 times the fun😂
Hi mate,In stock engines there is usually no problem true¿
Stock engines are still prone to failure, however the failure rate is much lower. If your going to be tracking your car, you may want to consider upgrading but for the most part it is not needed.
You guys should upgrade your shop lighting. Makes such a difference
What was the power on the car when the CH spun?
Hey bro hope u okay ... Just wanted to know what u did with the toasted engine ??? Can it be like sold ?
I can’t wait till you finish this car I want to do the same with mine and push high 800s
What’s up Brian I’m thinking on doing my crank hub on my m3 it has 45000 miles I don’t drive it crazy since I’m 43 but the only problem is that I’m in Patterson California and I don’t know any good shops any recommendations ?
Patterson??? I’m from Turlock. I took my M4 to AutoTalent in Gardena. Totally worth the drive. If you want something closer, I recommend BRRACING in Los Gatos.
You're F30 getting dyno'd anytime soon? 👀
Hey guys was the car lightly modified and the crank hub spun that bad? Or did he have a heavy tune with e85? Just curious because I’m in the market for a F80 but I’m nervous about the crank hub.
Never mind just read the modification breakdown in the description.
I spun my crank hub back in august after installing PJT E85 Stage 2+ tune. I didn't blow my motor but the BMW tech working on my car said that it was one of the worst crankhubs that he's ever seen and that I am extremely lucky I didn't bend my valves.
If you're leaving the car stock as is, your chance of spinning the crankhub is rare. Once you start pushing over 500hp and taking the car to its limit is when you need to worry.
This is more common is DCT transmission as the shifting occurs more quickly with much more torque-iness which prone to spinning the crankhub. 6spd and auto is not as common but can still occur as well.
If you’re that worried about it, just get it upgraded. People have spun hubs on stock tunes
Interesting how you pulled the motor from the top. Why not drop the engine and trans complete from the bottom?
It’s insane how tall the inline 6 is from BMW so much so it has to be tilted at an insane angle lol
there all tilted. its a normal straight six size
@@RaGeAlucard All inline 6 engines aren’t tilted ... JZs sit up perfectly straight
he was fbo?? when the hub spun ?
I never understand why they engineered the crank sprocket like that. i get it, it's much easier to assemble but the risk of damaging the engine is also high esp on performance engine
It's a more efficient cost factor. It was a fail design from the start but it was only anticipated for stock motor @ 425hp. Pushing over 500hp is when the failure occurs
It's fine stock power.
Do you have to remove the trans to pull the engine?
what mods did the car have before spinning the crank hub?
how much is an engine and trans for this build?
Where can you buy this engine?
www.kiesmotorsports.com/products/stage-2-s55-high-performance-engine-f80-m3-f82-f83-m4-gts-f87-m2c?_pos=1&_sid=b704061db&_ss=r&variant=32878811971669
@@KiesMotorsports and this price included installation?
@@bmwsincekid no
Exelent job
Anyone here run the GTS style hood for the F30? I’m curious to see if it’s ok to run on a daily driver. I’d really like one but that voice in my head is telling me it’s concerned about the water that would get in the hood vent when it rains or when washing the car and all that.
Dose this apply for f30 N55?
2017 LCI M3 S55 + adding Bootmod3 Stage 1 on 93Oct/98RON at [odometer] 25k miles = what would the likelihood of a spun crank be as a daily driver?
Let me know how it goes it’s my dd to
How is it holding up?
Cool
Does Bryan respond to small bmw channels ?
I'm not sure Bryan actually runs the channel! If he does, I'd be incredibly impressed, but I have a feeling they have an editor/social media manager. With that said, in the very few interactions I've had with the company on social media, I've gotten all my questions answered. Mostly have asked questions on Instagram, but solid communication so far. 👌🏻
I actually do :) I have a videographer and editor, but I pretty much handle IG and UA-cam, while we have an operations team for emails, facebook messages, contact forms, website orders, etc. I'm a little slow on IG and UA-cam I have a hard time getting to, but I read every single comment 👍🏼
Kies Motorsports Hey! Nice to see your response. Huge respect to you for managing both platforms you did a really good job at it!
@@KiesMotorsports wow man that's wild! Big props to you for wearing all these hats! Very impressive indeed considering the quality of your content. I'll just sit here while grading papers and have videos from your channel playing even if they don't apply to my specific car because it's just awesome to watch. Keep it up!
@@KiesMotorsports Hello Brian, I have a 2018 F80 M3 CS with a stock tune (460HP S55) 45k miles. I do not plan on modifying it. It is a daily drive, I don't want to track it, maybe some faster highway rides with some down shifts. Should I be worried about the crank hub issue? Cheers
My BMW mechanic does not work that fast. 🙁
LOL at the copart comment.
Would a crankhub capture “fix” this problem ?
It's only a bandaid to the problem. The aftermarket 4pin slotted crankhub upgrade is the actual fix.
No. Just prevent catastrophic failure if in stock CH. catches the bolt before hits pistons
Why not do a DIY? It would have been nice to have a few slow surveys of the intern compartment and under the chassis with discussion of how you were going to disconnect the necessary items in the sequence thereof. Other than that, which is a big thing, it was a decent video. Even if the Dodson clutches were easy to install it would have been nice to have a little more coverage of that.
Part 2??
Hello everyone! I recently purchased a F82 with a crank hub spin and I’m trying to fix it. Does anybody have any knowledge on how I can do this myself? I’d greatly appreciate it!
Did you fix it?
LoL Copart and their forklifts are ridiculous. I've bought a few totaled cars and the first time i got one brought to me on the giant forklift i was like WTF!!!
why does he have R888s on the front and not the rear of all places lol
Another reason why you don't want to move the car by pushing on the body panels is you will scratch the paint.
I think you where trying to show off your super strength and not the dollys lol
One has to love their car to not have it with them for a year.
since when did thor become a mechanic😂
Catastrophic motor failure 🤣
Firsttt
Such a beast of an F80....those wheels though definitely ain't it. Look like some cheap Niche wheels or something. Stockers are better than that..
Where is the link tp eastwood roller
Part 2???