Talking to the Top 1% Chinese Students at Harvard! How Good is Their English?
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How Well do the Smart Chinese Students in the World Speak English? Today I went out on the Harvard campus to talk to Chinese international students to test them on their English. And we might end up learning some of their secrets. How did they get into Harvard? Are all Harvard students Geniuses? Let’s go!
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“for math of course full score” “for verbal, what’s the lowest score? 130? yes 130 that’s what i got” THATS SO ME
thats typical for physical sciences.. esp. for GRE.. No one in the science department really cares what you got on verbal unless you failed.. just meet the minimum score.. Think of it like this.. if I were to review a science publication with a ton of non-science fancy words I would probably reject the publication.. and tell the writer to dumb it down.. its not a literary paper.. its a science paper and get to the point with simple words..
That dude was pretty funny
That dude is like Kira irl
那個Material Science的專業應該強到爆炸吧，感覺哈佛就是要他來，英文不好也快來快來的感覺，而且說話的感覺很害羞有一種專注研究不擅長交際的感覺
Really enjoyed this video, especially listening to the PhD student who spoke so fluently and intelligently. Can't wait for part 2!
北大那位女生，虽然戴眼镜，但是很优雅，很好看啊。政治学那位内心很强大，非常优秀
是不错，不过思想是看不出来的。 光是面貌气质，这样的并不稀少。 此外，在美国学政治，可得有足够的独立思考能力才好，否则直接给忽悠瘸
@@user-hr6tb9fh8k 政治出来的不是好学校没有好老爸就直接失业吧，这年头肯定理工科或金融科强呀。
@@user-hr6tb9fh8k 講的好像在國內學就不用獨立思考了 操老心了
@@abysswatcher4907还需考吗？ 回去直接安排公务员岗位了
@@zonali773 你可以去查有多少公务员岗位空缺 vs 有多少政治系学生。要是读个政治系都能当公务员估计大家也都不要转码了都转政
That girl who said she has an Asian accent.. 100% I would think she's an ABC haha
Same... I was like, what Asian accent!? O.o
She just pretending to be modest
the fact that she said she has a "thick" accent is very Asian. But her accent, not at all.
CANTO MANDO! Hello there!
She prob went to International school, that's my guess at least.
wtf..?CantoMando!?
顶尖学府学生的水平一下就体现出来了！真棒🤘👍
The PhD student has a really really close to nativelike pronunciation. In just a few sentences she might fool a native into thinking she's American, and after speaking a bit longer I think most people would be able to tell she's not a native speaker but would have no idea where she's from. I'd probably assume she was from a Germanic language speaking country since it's most commonly people from those countries who achieve this level of accent.
I disagree. I think most people would definitely be surprised she didn’t not grow up in the States.
It makes me feel she is kind of over humble.
She is my high school classmate…I’m also surprised she speaks engli this well
@@jjwwlovetree i dont see any over-humbleness..
@@xtianchen7977 She's definitely over humble, at least from the perspective of American culture. Her accent is almost perfect so to say 'heavy asian accent' just sounds absurd. Even if her accent was significantly more obvious I still wouldn't describe it as 'heavy'.
Was the PhD student native? I find it incredibly hard to believe that English wasn't her first language, couldn't detect an accent at all! Kudos to her
Not hard to believe for me. I've worked with a couple native Chinese guys who had fantastic accents. One of them was so good I just assumed he was American. There's some amazing English being taught in China if your family has the money.
Right
Come people pick up native accents incredibly well when learning a language. It may be uncommon, but there are those that are simply good at mimicking native speakers.
In china there put much more emphasis on this, they are obsessed to copy the same accent locall, there are many books published on this matter
If I closed my eyes and listened I wouldn't have guessed she was Chinese lol
that girl has minimal asian accent, at most she has the asian accent of an american with migrant parents
I hope the students have been able to keep in contact and visit their parents . It must be so hard since the beginning of the pandemic , being so far away from home like that. Incredible young people c wish them the best in their studies!
Actually, it’s a good time to stay away from the parents.
In fact most of Chinese students rarely contact their parents after going abroad. Everykids who grow up in a Chinese familie know that leaving their country is the best chance to stay away from their parent's control.
During the interview, you mentioned your distinctive Asian accent. It's truly inspiring to witness students from diverse backgrounds, such as yours, enriching the academic community at Harvard. Accents are a wonderful testament to our individual experiences and cultural roots. Much like the young student leader during the Tiananmen Massacre who fervently declared, 'It's my duty!' with an authentic native accent, your own accent can similarly convey a genuine sense of authenticity and identity.
“Big strong Asian accent？？？”
It sounds like the US has already belonged to Asia. lol
I don’t understand this either while majority of Americans failed reading comprehension.
在普通大学读完master的我，自我催眠大家都有口音，为自己口语不付出努力而找借口。看了这期视频，不禁汗颜，学术上不努力，口语上也不努力🤣枉而为人啊。另外，我确实想象别人会十分自律，像神仙一样努力，常常对自己有不切实际的要求期待，而自己又一定做不到，对自己自暴自弃🤦🏻♀️ 接纳自己 做最好的自己！
我是网大毕业的，更差。
口音确实不重要。 这些人没有代表性，一些学术大佬，口音也不一定好，主要的是成果。 我出国多年，发现口音地道的命题就是一个国内资本（培训行业）的游戏，和洗脑工具。 就正常学习， 悟性好些的说得流畅些，对语言不敏感的说得差一些，也完全没关系。 语言只是工具而已
@@user-hr6tb9fh8k 可是我也来了多年 人家老听不懂我的英语发音🙃 哭死
活這麼痛苦幹嘛? 賺得也沒馬雲多 外國技術抄一抄 回中國開業就夠了
还是能看出来哈佛招人偏好的。有个人特点的，在高中阶段就发掘到自己兴趣方向爱好，并有所表现的人。
有財的人
只要你捐錢給哈佛，就能進，就是金錢遊戲
My son is at NYU Shanghai, and I know that his acceptance into it (a 1.6% acceptance rate in his year for non-national students, 250 accepted out of over 16,000 applicants) was hugely helped by his essay, which gave insight into his personality and worldview.
I'm a 60 year old dad. I'm entitled to brag.
On9
congrats.
Congrats on the sponsorship by Laoma, man.
This was inspiring as an older woman applying to a Masters program.
努力固然重要，但有一個比較現實的點，就是「家境」，在美國讀名校，並不是每個家庭都負擔得起的。
不用担心。只要被接受，没有钱的家庭可以免费。我的小儿子就是。
@@alexoolau 只有特别出色的才会有吧，大部分外国国际生是要比起本地人 本国人多付学费的
就我认知中吧，只有两条路可以让读名校的负担变得不那么重，一个是入籍，进一个有很多高排名公立大学的州，比如加州，密歇根州等，当地居民进入这些州里的公立大学，学费都很便宜。另外一个就是特别出色，当你拥有高GPA，高ACT/SAT，好的推荐信，而你的家庭还不那么富裕的时候，这会打动那些名校招生官的心，他们会认为你的潜力十足，进而免除你的学费甚至每年给你发奖学金，不过这种学生的比例很少就是了
真正現實的點是才能，努力特別重要，但又特別起碼，不可能沒有努力的，才能才是真正發展努力的入門票，難道沒有人像C羅一樣努力？能做到C羅也只有C羅，當每個人都努力，誰能stand out就特別明顯
@@alexoolau 只能说你有什么特长擅长的东西。像我堂哥的孩子（他家有4个孩子）有2个成绩可以上纽约的名校（哥伦比亚大学类的），但他家住马里兰州的，考虑到学费，最后选择一半学费的大学。本土出生的美国普通孩子反而上免费的名校几率低。或许世界各地的天才孩子确实基础比美国本土的好，来了美国后能发挥自己的特长。也许美国科技的发达是因为后期（上大学后）学校公司各各方面的人才环境创作自由发挥很重要（包括薪资福利高）。虽然我没在美国读过😂。
“Strong Asian Accent” Hummmm interesting🧐🧐🤔🤔
She's like a native lol
哈哈哈，凡爾賽了她
she is a little insecure about accent.
Or maybe she's being humble/coy
More like fishing for compliment... She has to know she's good.
This was a great video! I highly enjoyed it!
视频很棒，很喜欢，思想和追求很重要。
天赋加努力最好再有钱就是至尊无敌
當然比較簡單啊，能進去都是家境「超級」好的，哈佛是看你的「背景」強不強，再來才是看你「本身能力」強不強。
家境好的从小就接触的事物更多，父母更有能力支持和教育孩子，只能说每个人的起跑线不一样
還看人種呢，長春藤校都有亞洲人不能太多的淺規則，說是為了要維持校園多樣性 呵呵
邏輯錯了，應該是家境好資源多接觸面廣也好學變更為優秀突出最後才被哈佛選中
I agree with the man who said that in high school, you have to study things you don’t really like. I had to study very hard in high school to get average grades in subjects I was not interested in. Once in undergrad, that experience was still there but to a lesser degree. The classes in my major field of study were engaging. When completing postgraduate work, my level of ability was at it’s highest. Yet somehow, even though the work was demanding, it felt easier than the years before. I think that your level of passion (and ability) for the subject just makes the biggest difference!
really authentic sharing! looking forward to part 2!
喜欢那个提到老友记的拽姐，要干大事儿的样子
Excellent interview. Please make more details about their lives in campus
哈佛的人不光成绩好，口语还这么好，真的厉害。
找到心中所愛並為之努力！優秀！
看到这个视频，对哈佛录取信息比较感兴趣于是了解一番，供大家参考。哈佛平均每年录取2000左右，国际生比例15percent 上下浮动。中英加墨印德韩日国际人数较多，大陆每年录取10-20人，绝大多数集中一二线国际中学或名校公立中学国际部，还有个别在国外完成高中教育。研究生录取对大陆学生比较友好，人数过千。就读人数最多的四大院是设计学院、文理学院、公共健康学院和教育学院，商学院法学院和医学院人数并没有那么大优势，猜想是录取难度较大。祝所有学子都心想事成 🎉🎉🎉🎉
wow, the attitude and the way of thinking is at another level when i was at age . no wonder why they are elite.
To be able to speak English without an accent. You have to expose a child in early childhood to native English teacher. That is one of the reasons China pays English speaking expats to come particularly its young kids. I predict in a few years more and more Chinese students speak with minimal accent. Although I am afraid many would have Scottish, Canadian and Australian accent which may be more acceptable to Americans in general.
you dont need to learn young to get rid of your accent, i mean even Chris who does this channel started learning chinese as an adult and yet has a really good beijing accent
Just what is your hangup about having an accent? Do you speak the "Queen's English" or American English. Maybe you speak with an Australian accent... Saying non native speakers should get rid if their accent, just shows you to be a pretentious person who is living in a little bubble, while pretending to be worldly!
I am from Taiwan and I understand why 1:35 "math of course full score." I don't know about now a days, but back when I was in school in states, we were 2 years in advance in math class, that means, 2nd years in university student going back to senior highschool to take exam.
Once upon a time, it would have been exceptional to graduate from top US/UK universities because it almost guarantees landing a high paying job at a fortune 500 company. But we all know the trend is shifting, where future major corporations will be in China and Asia and will pay the biggest bucks on the planet for top talent. These corporations will hire local graduates to deal with their growing Asian market. In addition, the elite students are choosing to stay in Asia for concerns about hate, safety and gun violence. And you'll soon see Asian Universities moving fast up the rankings (Tsinghua, Beida, NUS, HKU, NTU etc). The perception of prestige in the brand of foreign U's is rapidly changing and CN-US de-coupling only accelerates this.
You do you. These people are meant to be professionals in the future. Each individual is unique.
One thing bothers me the most is a lot of mainland Chinese colleagues asked where my American born daughter went to college and I said Stanford. And their reply was it is a lot harder to get in top universities in China. Well, a talented kid can do well in all environments. Actually it is pretty hard for an ethnic Chinese from CA to get in Stanford. Anyway, she is a MD and professor at HMS now.
Very good video.
Have you thought about streaming live on UA-cam or Twitch?
The user chat interaction would be another layer to growing a multilingual audience.
I'm actually thinking of starting to stream on UA-cam!
can you break it down how the lady without glasses speaks so so much like a native?
各榜单都上榜的前100的学校其实都差不多，我本科没有去做主动找老师做项目，但是研究生在英国读的时候跟着老师安排的项目走真的学了很多科技前沿的东西
前十（严格地说是前七）与后九十差的太多了！
@@tayyihcheung7450 I disagree with 马斯瑞的 saying, they are NOT common students, they are selected out from excellent graduates, 他们都是人精，超级聪明的学生，知识面很广，而且学的快，
不服气的话，和他们 一起 从 麻省理工学院或 斯坦福大学的公开课中，一起选几门课，硬核的 数学，物理等，看看能否跟上 他们的进度 😂🎉😢😮
本科在哈耶斯普麻五所里读书的中国人，如果是靠自己实力去的，天赋异于常人，可以去查查录取的同学的背景。榜单是给普通人看的。
wow, I like you interviewing those students.
說到重點了，西方跟東方學生的差別在於創造力，創造力在哈佛也是一分比重相當的課程學分
比如數學～亞洲人去到那邊可能覺得還好～滿簡單～～但哈佛的課程很少純理論課～有興趣可以上網找哈佛的線上課程
哈佛教授相對於理論談更著重在於變化跟創意～因為理論跟推算是死板的東西～人腦計算不出來有電腦甚至伺服器替代運算
但創造力無限～這點是機器無法學習的
Children of alumni follow different rules for admission.
Legacy path
She really said that she has strong asian accent. I've watched this twice still can't hear any of that "Strong asian accent"
北大小姐姐笑容好甜
Está rifado el video, saludos hermano!!
Well, we will see in the future how students from China will get into Harvard - as China kinda band English in their courses. So these maybe the last group… all because of policies of China
黑色外套，牛仔裤，坐在阶梯上那位，是我喜欢的类型。爱她
你不是一个人
汗！那个科大学弟的还真是典型科大男，当年我老公GRE 考了四次才过，一直被我嘲笑…
I think at minute 7:40 in your video when the girl said different universities and colleges have like their own vibe, the subtitle said “webs”. You might want to edit it.
You notice the PHD girl tiled her head up and toward Chris when she was talking about her "strong asian accent"? yeah, that's called Boasting. She's looking for the "No way" type of responses back. I've seen that way too many times. Proud of her speaking skills of course. More people should work on bettering themselves, rather than keep using the excuse of "oh i can speak at least 2 languages. Americans can understand me regardless. I'm good enough."
I am English.... Chinese people speaking perfect American English! I have Chinese friends in the UK, My mates speak a different type of English Chris! English English Slang they understand American slang is as to me an enigma!!!! Blinding cheers bruv!!! LOL.
rofl. perfect? you gotta be kidding me
FOB - Fresh Off Oklahoma lol seriously though I can’t even detect any accents from the phd and polisci girls. Congrats on all of these 精英
7:40 I think she said vibe instead of webs
印象中.中國高中不是考試上競爭很激烈.
課外不是很難有時間做~~~~~
上述以上都說有辦法堅持一樣學習..
那應該家境上不錯~~~~
应该是非常非常不错
对的，至少都是中级阶产家庭才有可能考虑进哈佛，毕竟就算不考虑学费也要考虑日常开销
我觉得天分最主要，其次还有钱哈哈😄
正解😂
租金很贵呀
a lot of these students have full scholarships so a lot of time esp phd you don't need money at all. a lot of is still hardwork.
En cuanto tiempo se puede aprender hablar chino ? 7 anos/10 anos ???
很好的内容 ！
Beyond what they mentioned the personality stuff, the most important thing for application is always your grades.
坚持去做一件事 蛮真实的
这期视频很有意思
1:46 i got the exact same score on the SAT, too bad it didnt get me into harvard xD
進哈佛「本科」比進哈佛研究所碩士生難好幾倍。
黑阿 美國流行大學讀一半 就當CEO賺大錢 幹嘛讀研所, 研究所畢業幾乎都是資本家的勞工
是中国人本科进哈佛比博士进哈佛难好几倍。
@@user-lg5pd1vx9b比起外國人因為找工作容易，美國人願意讀博士的人非常少，除非志在研究或教書；外國人讀博有獎學金跟生活補貼，還可以在校當TA賺一點生活費，基本不用花家裡的錢。
美國各大學碩士生是學校賺錢的門路，廣收學生則財源廣進，名牌大學也是如此。所以中國學生讀長春藤的多半是碩士生，能被長春藤本科錄取鳳毛麟角。
7:40 Vibe??? Not website. She was saying different universities have different vibes.
Good interview
学心理学的小姐姐口语真溜
Wow, those GRE scores really aren't as high as I expected at all
口语最差的果然是我科校友😢
*vibes, not webs. My suggestion for anybody who wants to get into Harvard is to be born into the family of the member of any national ruling class. Harvard admissions just love catering to the rich and powerful. It's gratifying, and I don't think these students are performing, to hear them acknowledge that every university is potentially an excellent school depending on the interests of the student. Harvard isn't a good school if it cannot complement your goals
It's a shame.
I like what ten girl said about going where you wanna go 🍻
Harvard is great place for learning but will always be what you love to do and your journey
Chinese students in the US are the smartest and brightest of all.
老马加油！
A great video!
在澳洲好像没有这种名校情结，大家好像更关注你的工作经验背景。我觉得那个女生和很多澳洲年轻人的口音都类似，喜欢最后往上扬起尾音。难道不是应该在问句才这样么？
东亚比较注重学历，西方则侧重于工作经历。
去不了名校大概率会被学术界淘汰掉。不信翻翻名校的教授都是哪里毕业的？并不是每个上学的人都是为了找个好工作。
老马 我的英文很懒 可以说几乎不会不用 完全是0 不知道怎么学英文 有什么建议吗 你那有适合零基础的人可以学吗
老马 汉语 好好 ！
5:15 是sketches from SNL (Saturday Night Live)，不是 this
7:40 是vibe,不是webs
These people are like the top of the top when they are in China already
The usage of "like" is really prevalent among the younger generation these days even the ones in top schools do that
Son muchos Argentinos que pueden hablar en Mandarina?
The girl in the black and white bomber style jacket w/hair pulled back, her mandarin was so smooth, soft, and very beautiful. To native speakers I wonder what she sounds like; big city girl, high class, educated, or not at all, and I'm way off?
She sounds like most of my female friends from diverse backgrounds. I meant she speaks standard Mandarin, which sounds the same 😂no matter where she was born and raised and how financially stable her family is. I couldn't even tell whether she is from the Northern or Southern part of China.
@@shihongli6385 Thanks for taking the time to answer me.
Do you offer lesson on how to speak like you in Chinese ?
进入哈佛的学生他们大多数人都是美国人，而且他们从小并没有学得那么辛苦，所以我只想说他们就只是幸运，天时地利人和罢了。比如：首先你从小出生受教育在美国你就比全世界其他国家尤其是非英语的穷国的人更有机会进入哈佛。你明白我的意思吧？
真的很受不了你這種認定某些成功的人就“只是”幸運，或許他們的出生讓他們從0.001% >> 0.5%的錄取率，不代表就能直接埋沒別人的努力，這種沒邏輯的歸因只是憤世忌俗的展現
@@zr7974 你知道从0.001到0.5差了多少倍吗
@@shuo_tonny_tao1725 then what? 難不成成功機率比較高就可以直接斷定人家沒有努力只是靠著天時地利？藐視別人辛苦作為合理化自己失敗的藉口很反智
@@zr7974 那是因为你人生经验太少，在美国上这些名校确实没多难也没多贵，是你没见识罢了
@@zr7974 你有机会努力就不知道多幸运了！
It has nothing to do with me but I enjoyed it very much!
那些中國留學生英文很犀利，但身為香港人的我還是喜歡聽英國口音英文！
The little guy in black who studied design is so handsome
1:24 清华附中不应该是Affiliated high school of Tsinghua university吗
One girl said "different university or college have their own vibe," not "web."
Randomly chosen Chinese students all makes regular folks feel very inadequate….
有機會，下次去麻省理工，哪裡應該更厲害
入學考試第一題，常識題
請問六月三號、六月五號，中間是六月幾號
五月三十五號
其实我更关心他们的政治立场，还是精致的自由利己主义
反正跟你没关系
我看过哈佛招生考察留学生的视频，好像更关心学生对于学习的目的考察。他们希望招收到能改变世界的人， 美国的精英很多时候对自己的领域都很专注，尤其科研人员，也就是很纯粹，说政治立场的人多半不了解世界的多样性，也不会理解马斯克很多时候飘忽不定的言论和行为。
上哈佛当然不意味着聪明啊😂 我TA本科生的时候被他们的数学水平搞的要吐血了 为什么中国学生两秒钟能解出来的东西他们激烈讨论10分钟也不明白咋回事儿呢
真假? 甚麼數學?
How to get a Harvard offer before gaokao
Def do this at a state school and see how different the responses are 🙂
02:37的女生好像常在桌球比賽擔任翻譯，看起來蠻眼熟的。
7:40 这个小姐姐说的是vibe呀 😄
beijing university is not peking university? 那是哪个学校？
他想说的应该是在北京读的大学。然后因为普遍我们都会联想到他读的应该是北大所以下一句他就澄清不是北大。读的哪所他下一句有说啦
中國留學生，聰明、自信、優秀，未來前程遠大
@1:35 this guy is epic
My IQ improved 20% by listening to all "them" smart folk 😜