Could You Pay The Price? - Arcane, a Video Something
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- Опубліковано 25 січ 2022
- I'm always late to the party, but Arcane was a party worth having. I'd say "Welcome to the Playground", but there are enough references in this video to snuggle a chicken into choking oblivion, which is starting to sound too much like one of those live - in all the wrong ways - mukbang videos, and I'm not THAT twisted.
Anyway, Arcane is awesome and this video, hopefully, showed you a few reasons why, taught you something about life and, miraculously, made you breakfast. So you thank it for breakfast while I thank you for watching and then we both praise Riot and Fortiche for their work on this show... and the soundtrack for this video, which Riot also provided. If you want to listen some more, look up "Sessions: Diana" for, well, more.
Video Soundtrack:
Song title: "Moonlight"
Artists: Sofasound
Courtesy of Riot Games www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us...
Song title: "Hyperion's Tale"
Artists: Chromonicci
Courtesy of Riot Games www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us...
Song title: "Downwards"
Artists: Allem Iversom
Courtesy of Riot Games www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us...
Song title: "Melt"
Artists: Goosestaf
Courtesy of Riot Games www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us...
Song title: "The Void"
Artists: Purrple Cat
Courtesy of Riot Games www.leagueoflegends.com/en-us...
Also credit to pixabay.com for all the free stock footage and sounds. - Фільми й анімація
It’s nobody fault and yet it’s everyone’s responsibility… this is what made the show so beautiful…
Expect for benzo and skarner whose hextech crystal are his people crystals.
actually it's all vi's fault.
@@nepntzerZer Partially, perhaps, but only to a small extent. Silco is more guilty than her (since, ya know, he directly put them all in that position to begin with, and attempted to have them killed for selfish reaasons).
It's whatever started the bridge war's fault. Everything else is the ripple or domino effect.
"Jinx is perfect"
@@nepntzerZer she was a kid and i'm sick of ppl treating vi as the devil himself while singing praises to silco (especially with how fucking manipulative he is to jinx). also, it's all the system's fault.
"Heimerdinger isn't that complicated, he just doesn't like magic" = "Heimerdinger has seen the price of magical ambition and is unwilling to pay it, ever"
Yeah, pretty much
I feel that they might be setting up an arc for Heimerdinger during season 2 relating to magic through helping Ekko with his machine
You could say Heimerdinger's unwillingness becomes his shadow, creating the very thing he tries to avoid.
Too bad that his fear and passivity is what kept him from realizing that in that city there are many skeletons in the closet (corruption, poverty, mafia, you name it)
@@Kaylos29 He warned everyone though and they still went through with it. Its not his fault at all but rather a horrible aspect of the human mind that lessons are deeply learned by those who experience them. Seeing is believing.
Powder's last tear is the colour violet. VIOLET. Fuck me, I totally missed that. Chills. I gotta rewatch this show.
Ha, I know, right?
"powder is the consequence of other people's actions as much as she is a product of her own...sound familiar? that's you too." 20:55 damn what a great line. We are all the cause of our own effect because we make our own choices but we're also the product of everything we have experienced, everyone we met and loved, and our environment that we often had no control over.
It's the sandwiches fault, If those sandwiches didn't show Powder where the gems were this never would have happened.
Yeah but still, Jayce (and presumably Caitlyn) made/ate those sandwiches, chose to leave them out, etc. Then you have to consider all of the steps that led to each ingredient being prepared and shipped and ultimately bought, delivered, and combined into the sandwich Powder ate. Technically everyone involved in making the food is partly to blame for the sandwiches even being there for Powder to find.
That’s exatly what I’m saying!! Those evil sandwiches ):
Incredible analysis that talked about themes in a very unique and creative way
Thank you, superchewy. Cool name.
99.9% follow you with the 0.01% being Heimerdinger who I think you're shortchanging. We see Vander and Silco eye the price tag for their ambition and decide it's too high. Heimer doesn't seem to know there was a cost until he looks down from his ivory tower at the rubble Jinx left and asks somewhat rhetorically "How did it come to this?" Now we're seeing him on a road to Damascus which meanders through The Lanes. Presumably when the furball gets there he will realize the price for his City of Progress continues to be paid on an installment plan by an underclass that's been getting increasingly resentful for 2 centuries.
First of all, thanks for the thoughtful comment, quigs. Second, that's a nice take, because it also connects the price of ambition to the theme of class. My issue with Heim and the reason I say he comes across as mostly "magic = bad" with the sparse but worthy exceptions that are his care for his students (a lighter sentence for Jayce and an ear to listen for Viktor) is because that is all we see him do. We are told that he rules the city, but aside from his judging of Jayce, he is never again shown to have any control over what the council says or where the city directs its ambitions (he is even missing in some of their discussions to raid the Undercity). His own, personal ambition is also not a focus for the story and that made it so I never formed a connection between Heim's ambition and Piltover's progress. His speech to Jayce at the beginning of Episode 4 also painted a different picture for me - one of a brilliant mind, a philosopher, a thinker, a teacher who loves his students, but not necessarily a politician or leader - that role I assigned to Mel, who I view as much more business and progress oriented. And although he does lead in the beginning, I never felt he wanted to. This leaves me with three reasons why I may not have reached your same conclusion: 1) I did not get the impression that Heim's ambitions went further than his research and students; 2) I interpreted Heim having already asked himself the question before the show ever begins, which is why he feels comfortable in the knowledge that his students will achieve bigger contributions than he ever could; or 3) I'm just dumb, haha.
Either way, Heim is the only character that left me wishing we could have had at least one more scene with. Picture Heim alone in his study, musing aloud to the bemused ears of his furry pet about how he is trying to and frustrated that he cannot find a way to help Viktor with his decease or both him and Jayce to more safely study their field. I feel like that would have made his character even more nuanced than it is now. Then again, you seem to be the one familiar with the lore of this universe, so if this scene would not be congruent with that, I would love to know. Again, thanks for the comment, quigs.
It was serious, till you called him a furball.
@@JohnnyValmaggia his pet is an animal from the Freljord called a poro. Just wanted to let u know. Poros can be found in all of Runterra (the world the league universe is set in)
@@JohnnyValmaggia I agree with you that we need more Heimerdinger scenes. While I loves his interactions with the other characters in the show and think he is more complex than he seemed at first, I definitely think he has more potential. Thus I am excited to see more of him in season two, perhaps faced with some moral dilemmas or somethign to tell us more of his conflicts and drives.
Also great video, always appreciate the time and effort to make an interesting and in depth analysis like this one ;)
@@JohnnyValmaggia Idk, that felt very intentional, Heimer's whole thing is his immortality leading him to always think almost solely in the future, and be way to disconnected to the present, he ends up blind to the inequalities and sufferings of the undercity in the civilization he helped create, he backs off and lets others do as they do as he seemingly nearly solely focuses on mentoring, with Victor he's sad over his near death but he doesn't challenge it, he just accepts it and try's to tell Victor and Jayce to accept it too.
Which is what makes Ekko the perfect foil to him that will lead to growth in season 2, since Ekko is the character most focused on the present.
No matter what path we take in life, there is a toll booth waiting at every one. Sometimes the price is actual money, other times it is a piece of our soul. All we can do is hope the cost was worth it.
bro.. 25 views.. wtf.
The effort u have put in for this video is unreal. 22 minutes of pure facts about an already (in my opinion) 10/10 show. I’ve rewatched the show 5 full times - yet somehow I hadn’t realised even half of the links that u did. The entire idea of the ‘cogs playing their parts’ is so cool to think about. Seeing a video essay about more than how the show is ‘visually appealing’ or ‘perfectly written’ (not that the show isn’t) is really great to see. Keep up the good work, man.
Thanks, man. I appreciate the comment, the compliment, and I concur. Although I don't normally use grading systems, if I did, Arcane would definitely be getting the best of scores, be it 10/10 points, 5/5 stars or 3/3 tacos, whichever you prefer. Once again, thanks for your awesome comment! It really helps to give the video more traction.
Algorithm finally picked this up I think because I got this video recommended to me at least 3 times before I finally clicked on
Love the analysis, especially the breakdown on Powder around 12:20. I disagree that Vi’s ambition is for the undercity, as she puts it to Vander, it’s so Powder can live a life where she’s not arbitrarily less than the topsiders. Not for Vi herself - although I think she wants the same but is jaded against it - but for Powder.
Haha a “Video Something” ahh the struggle on whether or not to call it an essay or not
Arcane is about people making bad decisions and people suffering consequences of bad decisions. Jinx is the one getting all the consequences.
Yes kinda no at the same time
I'd argue that it's not about bad decisions, but how our unexamined motivations leaves us blind to the potential consequences of those decisions. Everyone has good intentions, even when they are warped. There really aren't any "good" decisions, just tough ones to made or avoided, all of which comes with consequences.
The beauty of tragedy is that you can make the right choices and still lose.
@@GedenWilbur Jinx did the right thing in the wrong way. She suffers because of misunderstandings and unhealthy attachments. Vi was the real jinx, she got everyone in her family into trouble twice and that was enough to create Jinx.
@@josepablolunasanchez1283 It's true.. Vi did take too young children and put them into troubles that she shouldn't have brought them into. Sure Vi was a child herself and the undercity does not bode well for children, but what happened shouldn't have happened.
Vi was good at what she was doing, in fact the only times she really got praise was when she could keep up. Of course this girl will want to keep up and save her father, just as the other children are doing.
Well, this a really good analysis but I'm pretty sure that in the next season we'll have more of Singed. A lot of people will think that he lost his daughter in a tragic way and this made him so cold. But I think we'll have a Shou Tucker moment. Just a theory.
Nooooo never again!! 😭😭 shou tucker is dead 😩
Well, I wouldn't like to experience "Shou Tucker" scenario once again BUT it's sound quite like something Singed could do.
What? I have read all the comments? Here's an other one! xD great video!
What a phenomenal video. I only expected to learn something about Arcane, and I did learn a lot about Arcane, and that was fantastic, but also learned something about the people around me and myself, which is priceless. Thank you.
Something that I've actually noticed during watching the show is that Silco's wants and needs directly contradict Jinx's wants and needs, and they both have to pay the price and actually constantly interfere with each other. Jinx interferes with Silco's wants and Silco inteferes with her needs, and they keep dancing that dance and amplifying each other. Silco doesn't realize it, but by putting his wants over what Jinx needs, he's directly making her mental instability worse, go AWOL and mess up his missions, and interestingly it's also what directly leads to Piltover wanting her captive in the first place, and I just think that's... Well. Horrible, but amazingly written.
Either way, hope this is an okay addition, just an observation for the void. Thanks again for this absolutely spectacular video!
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"she wants to be with caitlyn" the way i hop back into my seat after hearing this 😂
Bold of you to assume I am wrong and haven't rewatched the series dozens of times already.
a unique analysis of a unique masterpiece
Bro, you are making me blush.
Ok i have seen a lot of excellent videos essays but this is one of the best ones I’ve seen, possibly my favorite, and I think it’s all the better for having been made JUST NOW, after so many essays have already been made. You brought up points I haven’t seen anyone else being up, or if they have, they did not articulate them as clearly.
One of the lines in this that haunts me is how Violet represents what it means to choose, and jinx represents what it means to suffer the consequences of choices. It’s even more chilling whe I step back and remember the show as a whole - Violet tries so hard to choose correctly and at every step, her choices are undone. Jinx never makes a conscious choice but because of extenuating circumstances and her ptsd, she ends up being the trigger to all manner of tragedies, many of which she wishes she’d never been involved in.
Also I’m obsessed with how you glaze over all the visual parallels but still make the effort to quickly show them to us.
wow that was really clever, i noticed some of the parallels but i never knew there was so many!
Love the effort you put in these videos along with smart and creative analysis approach. You’re doing a great job man!
Thanks a lot, Rattler. Nice to see you here again!
Love what you did. I don’t agree that ambition is the main point because the series makes clear that there are many and ambition is not the main point of them. Morality (writ large as justice and small as honor), power (rulers of both cities control of knowledge to even the two magic/science powers and how to use it) and need/family (mostly in terms fictive kin and relationships but even moser so in learning what that is and how to live that). One could toss resources in there and arrogance.
I think when Ekko says ‘people need more then to just survive - they need to live’ he gets it. Arrogance no. But a need to live that always was at the heart of it all. The undercity does not want to take over the upper city. The upper city does not want to rule the world. They want to learn to live a better life and not just survive as they are. But (so far) Ekko gets it in that you have to see the bigger picture. You have to do great things as you do good things. You have to heal and not just harm. You have to demand justice and accept no less for yourself.
That is the path that they are (season 1) trying to fail and failing at. And it is in that failing that the tragic epic of Arcane works best. A broken orphan girl with mental issue in anger and desperation has the final say … walking the path that was put in front of her and the world burns….
I am off topic but still loved what you did. Hope to see more from you. I
Welcome to my ted talk.
Its jinx's fault.
Thanks for coming to my ted talk
10/10 would recommend.
This one... is truly a masterpiece of analysis. A deep and beautiful dive in the world of Arcane, aswell as our world and the way we live. I am shocked that this excellent piece of art has this little attention. But you ll get there if you keep up the amazing work :)
This video is a BANGER!! Quick, logical editing and a great flow, awesome video!
All the characters in ARCANE are Greek Tragic Heros; they all have Hamartia (tjhe fatal flaw), go through peripeteia (reversal of circumstances), and reach anagnorisis in each's arc (discovering true nature of their own circumstances). People will talk about ARCANE's theme of duality as father/daughter, mentor/student, 'brotherhood'... and those are true but where the duality really intertwines is the dualities of Hamartia, Peripeteia and anagnorisis among the characters. Even supporting characters like Sky, Sevika, and Marcus have tragic hero arcs.
Best analysis I have seen since I got addicted to this show. Well done, thank you.
Bro I disagree, it's the sandwichs fault
Stupid sandwich.
juani valmagagia this is the best arcane video essay I've ever watched you hit the nail on the secrets formula of arcane brilliance people's actions ambitions never considered enough the consequences for others suffering everyone is a slave to desire it rings true to real life my life thank you for creating this video its no one's fault but everyone's responsible
Fantastic video, so glad it came up in my reccomended!
This is so cool keep it up 👍
amazing analysis!!! subbeddd
Not much about faults or blame but rather the decisions we make and their consequences. No one can deny that Powder really made the worst decision of her life that day.
At first you want to feel sympathy for her, but seeing how cruel she can be later even against innocent parties involved then it gets harder to like her.
I glad of seeing other people taking that view. I found Powder insanely relatabe, but at same time I found annoying how people make gymnastic to deny her own responsability in her problems. Yes she is sympathetic but also guilty of her own mistakes.
I like to blame society itself since that is what creates monsters. Love the videos definitely subbing
Can relate, it's always fun blaming society. It does beg the question though: would we have no monsters without it? Thanks for the sub and comment GWC. I recommend you check out the Witcher Universe if you haven't, sounds right up your alley.
@@JohnnyValmaggia I'll definitely have to check it out thanks for the suggestion
the weird paradox's society is no one. we all are society, and not at the same time.
@@VGSpoonium damm deep to think about it
I think that "blame society" is very vague, WE all form part of society so everything that caused "because society" is then our fault too.
Sir, this was an amazing way to explain everything. I’m shook.
This video alone has made me subscribe to your channel. Im not sure what else you have, but its a beautiful piece of work, with a little bit of humor, lot of thought and it is expanding horizons, talking of actual life and making Arcane even better in my mind. pure excellence.
I disagree on Heimerdinger … he knew better that’s why he outlawed the study … those defying those rules are responsible for their own failures. Even after he accepted his loss of control he encouraged restraint but was ignored.. so no you can’t blame Heimerdinger.
This is one of, if not, the Best analysis video I had ever seen! The Creativity behind your script and play on words is so damn good! Hope you find a Job you most deserve of btw
Fantastic and beautiful words. Thank you for putting this together.
Really enjoyed this video, I’ll admit it’s been getting recommended to me for a bit but I put off watching for a week because the thumbnail made me assume it would be completely separating powder from the result of her choices/actions, but I was happily surprised. I enjoyed the ambition talk and how you paced this. The editing was great as well
i never thought of it this way. thanks for showing me this new way of thinking. that being said, imma need a minuet to process all of this!
I am blown away by this analysis and it helps me understand why I loved this show so much. This whole theme and analysis has to be one of the best exposition on what karma actually is. Fault and justification are irrelevant. You and everyone is responsible and pays the price.
The sad thing is that Vi didn't wanna fight Piltover for the Undercity. Maybe a bit for herself. But mainly to make sure Powder has a better future. And we all know how that turned out 😭
bravo. truly outstanding commentary & analysis.
The youtube algorithm is kinda hiding this vid, glad i managed to find it. Great analysis and editing!
Thanks for helping me fight that dumb algorithm then, I don't like that guy.
Say it louder for the ones in the back, first time coming here and can't say I left disappointed. Got a subscriber out of me
Thanks Thomas, means a lot!
Hidden gem, good job.
Wow. Thank-you for making this.
Amazing breakdown on Arcane!!
Subbing liking and commenting for the algorithm gods
Fantastic job, my guy. Can’t believe you’re not bigger… but with quality like this? You’ll get there. No doubt about it :)
Commenting for algorithm!!
Why are you so cool Violet?
Arcane is basically a series of people doing and saying the wrong things at the wrong places at the wrong time. And everyone suffers the consequences that might've been avoided had things gone slightly different. That's what makes it so frustratingly beautiful.
Why 10k views... Its good review then why 😥
I feel like one thing we never really get to see is how Powder lived as a kid. I always thought it was odd that she would fall in with Silco so fast. It just occurred to me that she may have planned to kill him and then never went through with it.
One of the greatest Arcane videos I’ve ever watched. Can you make videos about Studi Ghibli films, Andor and Cyberpunk Edgerunners?
What's especially tragic is that, if Powder didn't interfere, everyone would still be dead. Yes, Clagger opened the wall but Vi was losing and Vander was still tied down. There were still more bricks to kick in, more clasps to be undone and Vi was down for the count; they were dead either way.
By the moment Powder killed averyone vander was alredy free and the door Vi closed still closed. They were a jump ahead of get free so yes, if Powder had done anything they would have scaped at least by the moment.
Counter point, Jinx caused EVERY problem that started after the beginning of the show.
Needed this after I related to Jinx/Powder too hard it made me relapse, protect myself too hard onto Jinx, and act worse XD
i love how vi stealing ( for revenge on enforcers) starts everything problems ...if vi didnt steal that day..it would have started the story undercity with something bully scene
Perhaps you might like to look at the bottom right hand corner of your cog graphic and note that the teeth do not mesh but seemingly turn the gears. It might be a profound statement or a misunderstanding that we need to interact to keep the world turning.
Ok but the one thing I’m wondering is why Jayce left the hex balls out there like that. He had a lot of unauthorized equipment and the hex stuff is super touchy so why didn’t he just hide them in a locked box or attic in case he might get caught?
The core of the show is the civil war, not ambition. Civil wars means brother vs brother.
I think the theme was explicitly stated as "duality" by the creators but the overlapping multi-layered way they interpreted that theme really brings to life the interconnected nature of the characters motivations and responsibilities as you've described so well.
nice
damn that was good
*PLEASE MAKE CC AVAILABLE!*
Sevika didnt betray anyone, Vander betrayed her. He changed his way, he wasnt willing to fight anymore. And his will to fight for the cause was the reason Sevika followed him. When he changed paths, she changed sites. Just because Sevika doesnt blindly follow someone, doesnt mean she's a traitor. Thats just how Vi sees it.
Arcane and Breaking Bad are both supreme tragedies, while in Arcane is hard to place the blame on any one person, in breaking bad you can easily blame Walt's ego for dragging things out
If we accept the destruction of Jayce's apartment as the "inciting incident" from which all the following drama issues, then we can point to the two character choices that most directly led to that incident: Jayce's choice to carry out illegal experiments that involve/require highly volatile hex crystals (in his apartment no less), and Vi's choice to carry out a burglary in said apartment. Both actions are illegal and perhaps morally unjustified such that neither is more or less "wrong" from that perspective. But in playing the game of What Could Have Been, where I am allowed to change only one thing (i.e., one character's choice) in order to "fix" the events as shown, I would choose to eliminate Jayce's choice rather than Vi's. I freely admit, however, that this is only because I like Vi ten times more than I like Jayce, and if it's anyone's "ambitions" that I'd prefer to see squelched in order to save Powder from the trauma she endured, it is Jayce's.
I think, there are two inciting incidents in the show. (If I got the definition of "inciting incident" right)
It's Vander and Silco leading their rebellion over to bridge against Piltover.
And Jayce and his mom meeting that mage guy in blizzard.
This is literally simplified as Duality.
it's not her fault, but unfortunately, it may be too late now. it seemed like there were points where vi was making headway with her. but after she assassinated the council members, there will be no resolution without her head.
Needed this after I related to Jinx/Powder so hard it made me relapse, protect myself too hard onto Jinx, and act worse XD
I also relate to Jinx but that showed me to consider other points of view and that even when I'm suffering others are suffering to and should work in my communication skills.
Heimerdinger having 32 full minutes of screentime is the reason why I gave Arcane 9/10 instead of 10/10.
Saying Heimmerdinger is the fault why there's a Jinx is like saying Obamma is the reason why american's doesn't have a free healthcare. If there's anything we can learn from the real world is that no matter how powerful you are you can't change the world yourself.
Why is himerdinger responsible for most of this
Simple
Because he failed everyone even the world at large by not doing his job
He had almost 200 years to make sure that something like this would not happen. Instead he wasted that time playing professor and waxing poetic at the most prestigious, hardest to get into and toughf school in the world. He will say it was for our future to lead to progress. Then be willfully ingnorent of the fact that he leads the city thus he’s doing a piss poor job at it because he’s barely doing his actual job.
Himerdinger needed to get kicked off the council because he needed to understand just how much he failed everyone. The truth needed to be shoved in his face or he would have just acted willfully ignorant and blamed others while not looking at himself.
Himerdinger is the biggest villain of the story because it would never have happened if not for his actions or lack there of.
This understanding is why I love Himerdingers cherictor. He’s pure ironony and something that could have been
its ryzes fault, because jayce was meant to be dead
video song beat name in the begining pease?
Hey is you look up annie origins it really is her fault. I wonder jinx and annie team up.
Please watch squid game in dub
Yeah, Jinx is less a character and more an element of world-building. Makes the whole character a little boring to me, but whatever. It's not the only part of the show after all.
I think what made Jinx such a powerful character is that it was her fault, and a lot of anti-hero stories today, or enemy stories justify the behavior because they were bullied or had a rough life. Arcane has a different message, that as cute and innocent as Powder was, her own actions are what created Jinx, and she knows it, hence the pain being amplified. Yes, Mylo gave her a tough time, but everyone else was very patient with her. I actually think this mimic's real life more accurately. It's not painting her as a victim, it's painting her as a tragedy based on bad choices, and fear.
sometimes we need to fight tho.... I come from a country that was occupied for over 48 years, our people were oppressed and murdered by a bigger and more powerful country , Vander put his gloves down and stopped fighting but that meant the fact that Zauns people continued to be oppressed and poisoned, if it comes to Zaun then I agree with Silcos point of view...its just the means how he tried to receive the free nation of Zaun that were very questionable and radical if I am honest then if I see the last scene with Jinx nuking the council...in my opinion council had it coming.... they are responcible for Zaun and people in Zaun are oppressed and poisoned....it was only matter of time until someone rebels and kills council members
The people of Zaun were literally poisoned by Silco.
Ok, lots of interesting thoughts about the ineresting themes in the show, but hasn't anyone thought Jinx being blamed for the outcome of the fight at Silco's hideout was a little... forced?
I get the plot needs momentum and Jinx was already a character before her backstory was thought out. Yet, the motivation for Vi turning on Jinx was absurd. Fine, be resentful or disturbed later, just don't leave a child, of well intent, alone in an alley. You were already in a life or death situation; if she didn't do something, you would probably die anyway.
Honestly, it was so comically shocking, that when Vi turns back to stop Silco, I imagined Vi thinking, "Bish wait, I'm dumb as Hell, lol XD!"
I'm all on board for the Jinx-train. Maybe she'll just kill Vi later, and finish the job. Sincerly, fuck Vi.
I found interesting how many people play gymnastic to excuse Jinx for being a "traumatized child" but Vi bing a even more traumatized child gets blamed for "don't take proper care of her sister" as if were Vi responsability being parentified as Powder mother, while being herself also a child who were strugling taking care of a bunch of childs and traumatized for the bridge masacre and having her parents murder. Just to then see all his friends gruesome murdered, his father figure kidnaped, tortured, mutated, she hersef being beaten to pulp,and all her hopes crushed by her sister
Yes, Jinx screwed in Silco Hideout, and Vi taking a few stepts away so she could calm down and not harm her murderorus sister more was the right move. After that point while Jinx shows that she really didn't care for her family so much since she jumped to her new daddy right away, Vi wasn't nothing but plainly tortured for years. And sisnce all was related to Jinx who has been nothing but mean agaisnt Vi all the time I really don't know why should she want her back.