The D&RGW painted many of the boilers on their steam locomotives green in the later years of steam, so that part of the model (as much as its not textured nicely) is correct for the era that the route is set in.
The D&RGW painted their engines green in the 1920’s but went back to black by the time they started using the “flying grande” lettering which the they had by the 1950’s.
At 45:59, those are called Tell-tales; if a brakeman was on top of the cars, it was a warning of a clearance issue with a tunnel or bridge ahead. Camp Hale was where the 10th Mountain Division trained starting in WWII. Belden was a primary lead-zinc mine with some copper & silver.
its a good looking route. a lot of it ended up single track on the west side. I like the 1994/5-1997 era with the AC4400CWs and later UP's C60/44CWs. its a shame the royal gorge aint represented. SP 262 was the last eastbound and westbound train
A better southern end to the route would have been Salida, just a few miles south with a fair-sized yard. As far as the Royal Gorge is concerned, I'd hope they work on their water textures before tackling that one. (BTW the bridge with RG speed lettering is over Cottonwood Creek in Buena Vista. And a county road takes you through the old Colorado Midland tunnels.)
They should extended from Pueblo to Dotsero where Tennessee Pass Subdivision joins the Moffat/Glenwood Springs Subdivision all away to Grand Junction, Salt Lake City, and the rest of west coast destinations.
The only problem I have with the 2-8-8-2 is the wind shield blocks your visibility when looking out of the cab, also the air breaks are like spring action and are impossible to operate with keys.
Another good video review and a good recommendation to wait for it to go on sale. Thanks again for doing these, SP. What a service to humanity you provide....LOL
As a Coloradoan I'm legally required to tell you it's pronounced "Byoona Vista" not "Bwena Vista"- yes it's pronounced VERY wrong to the Spanish, but that's what the locals call it. Also great review! Will probably pick this up soon, as an avid D&RGW fan.
Texturing has always been MP's biggest problem, IMHO. Overall, though, they are most certainly better than what we see from HIS, and I'd even say better than G-Trax. The sounds are great on the rolling stock, not so much on the locomotives. The GP7 and F7 are no surprise, same old stuff. The 2-8-8-2 use the chuff and idle sounds from the over-decade old IHH steam locos. The whistle is not a Rio Grande whistle, the bell is just kinda passable. Just kinda meh. The physics are OK, but I have most certainly seen better at this point.
Its sad how Milepost, a single guy who builds routes has, consistently, with his last 3 routes: -made better routes than developers made of whole teams of route builders -made better assets than that same team -made better stock than someone who only makes stock -made better scenarios than the guy who only makes scenarios Also, looking at it, most of the stock looks new, with the exception of the coal car, all of the gondolas, and the flatcar.
Aw man, the aging game engine really can’t do this area justice. In real life the view is dominated by the Collegiate peaks just to the west, but here they’re just a gray blur…
I would have bought it immediately but they didn't model the royal gorge and im not a big fan of this era of the route so im gonna wait for it to go on sale.
A new route in 2024? TBH it does not look that much better than an old 'All Aboard' route considering how many years between them and asking $40 for it. That is just my view.
Im so glad i moved on from this game. Run 8 has checked all my boxes dovetail aint getting another dollar from me. Especially dont support that quief that wears kitty ears
The D&RGW painted many of the boilers on their steam locomotives green in the later years of steam, so that part of the model (as much as its not textured nicely) is correct for the era that the route is set in.
The D&RGW painted their engines green in the 1920’s but went back to black by the time they started using the “flying grande” lettering which the they had by the 1950’s.
At 45:59, those are called Tell-tales; if a brakeman was on top of the cars, it was a warning of a clearance issue with a tunnel or bridge ahead.
Camp Hale was where the 10th Mountain Division trained starting in WWII.
Belden was a primary lead-zinc mine with some copper & silver.
its a good looking route. a lot of it ended up single track on the west side. I like the 1994/5-1997 era with the AC4400CWs and later UP's C60/44CWs. its a shame the royal gorge aint represented. SP 262 was the last eastbound and westbound train
A better southern end to the route would have been Salida, just a few miles south with a fair-sized yard. As far as the Royal Gorge is concerned, I'd hope they work on their water textures before tackling that one. (BTW the bridge with RG speed lettering is over Cottonwood Creek in Buena Vista. And a county road takes you through the old Colorado Midland tunnels.)
The Reading 6 Chime on a D&RGW 2-8-8-2? Wow.
I instantly noticed that! 🤦♂
Bruh the sound is in railroader
I gotta say I was skeptical when I saw the texturing on their facebook promotions, but those sounds are honestly amazing, like K&L quality.
They should extended from Pueblo to Dotsero where Tennessee Pass Subdivision joins the Moffat/Glenwood Springs Subdivision all away to Grand Junction, Salt Lake City, and the rest of west coast destinations.
The only problem I have with the 2-8-8-2 is the wind shield blocks your visibility when looking out of the cab, also the air breaks are like spring action and are impossible to operate with keys.
Another good video review and a good recommendation to wait for it to go on sale. Thanks again for doing these, SP. What a service to humanity you provide....LOL
Honestly, my favorite part of your videos is the history of the line. (Cuz Idk a thing about trains)
It's Dovetail Games the price will never go down because that company is very greedy even though the game is 15 years old
Will you be doing anymore run 8 content?
As a Coloradoan I'm legally required to tell you it's pronounced "Byoona Vista" not "Bwena Vista"- yes it's pronounced VERY wrong to the Spanish, but that's what the locals call it.
Also great review! Will probably pick this up soon, as an avid D&RGW fan.
BV!
lol, I live near a Beuna Vista in GA, we pronounce it the same “Byoona Vista”
Haha we got one over near the theme parks in Orlando and its def "boo way nah visstah" 😄
The Smoxbox Rio Grande challengers would look good on this line also
That map looks amazing
1:15:49 A T-1 TUNED READING 6 CHIME ON A L-131???
Honestly, I'd take this over a DTM dlc any day.
Texturing has always been MP's biggest problem, IMHO. Overall, though, they are most certainly better than what we see from HIS, and I'd even say better than G-Trax. The sounds are great on the rolling stock, not so much on the locomotives. The GP7 and F7 are no surprise, same old stuff. The 2-8-8-2 use the chuff and idle sounds from the over-decade old IHH steam locos. The whistle is not a Rio Grande whistle, the bell is just kinda passable. Just kinda meh. The physics are OK, but I have most certainly seen better at this point.
And the backhead is mostly from the IHH locos. It's just sad because we could do better and we simply don't, especially for the money.
Do you have the ap tree pack? Some of the trees look a lot better and high quality than others, it's a weird mixture
In terms of looks, I’ll take a DMIR 2-8-8-4 Yellowstone over the DRGW L131 any day of the week.
in terms of articulated power I'll take a N&W Y6b
@machracer4 agree! I wish someone like smokebox would make one
DMIR yellowstones are cool and all but I like the B&O 2-8-8-4's more though even if they have less tractive effort
Its sad how Milepost, a single guy who builds routes has, consistently, with his last 3 routes:
-made better routes than developers made of whole teams of route builders
-made better assets than that same team
-made better stock than someone who only makes stock
-made better scenarios than the guy who only makes scenarios
Also, looking at it, most of the stock looks new, with the exception of the coal car, all of the gondolas, and the flatcar.
Hay at 45:56 the poles is mint for snow and ice
Aw man, the aging game engine really can’t do this area justice. In real life the view is dominated by the Collegiate peaks just to the west, but here they’re just a gray blur…
1:05:20 You mean the tires.
LETS FUCKING GO DENVER AND RIO GRANDE WESTERN SUPERIORITY
no lets not go :D
even though a N&W articulated would outpull any D&RGW engine :D
N&W Superiority ftw! Precision Transportation!
@@SteamKing2160 2 words:
California
Zephyr
The grande ain't no quitters
@@loganfrancel9275 "Not around the Rockies, Thru the Rockies"
@@DenverRailfanHD HELL YEAH
I would have bought it immediately but they didn't model the royal gorge and im not a big fan of this era of the route so im gonna wait for it to go on sale.
Awesome!
i need an Allegheny. no other context.
US HWY 24 to this day.
1:05:33 O LORD HE COMIN
BIG BOY SLANDER DETECTED
nobigboy
A new route in 2024? TBH it does not look that much better than an old 'All Aboard' route considering how many years between them and asking $40 for it. That is just my view.
Im so glad i moved on from this game. Run 8 has checked all my boxes dovetail aint getting another dollar from me. Especially dont support that quief that wears kitty ears