Amy, your analysis of The Wall not only made me rediscover why I love this album so much, but it also helped me uncover (many) things that were buried and hidden, even in songs that seemed so small and insignificant, like "Stop." It's always such a joy to discover things in the company of others and to see new layers through someone else's eyes. Thank you for continuing to make this one of my favorite journeys-now, not so solitary. Thank you for the company!
My familiarity with and understanding of this album is deep, and yet - somehow - you make me look like a novice after every song. Your analysis - musically, lyrically, and conceptually - is second to none. Another exceptional review on this exceptional album. I can't wait for The Trial and Outside the Wall, but I have to admit... I'm going to be kind of sad when you've completed the album because this has been an incredible journey. Thank you!
Amy your ability to convey your thoughts on this outstanding work has compelled me to do a ton of self reflection on this dreary January day. Verdict to follow ! Thanks again, your insight and professionalism has validated the obsession with this masterpiece!!
I have been glued to every part of your journey and analysis for the wall for over a year. For the the love of Pink, post the trail now and not months from now ❤
Excellent In-Depth with your insights on the lessons you have found as this narrative continues to develop. You had several great observations, such as your thoughts on the two key factors here: The 1st on the power of decision, and 2nd on self-reflection/-accountability/-awareness. Pink finally decides to stop his decent into madness, with his own self-accountability bringing him closer to this decision. Pink has previously been nurturing his dark side, which we all have within us, but the choice is whether to give into these darker thoughts and instincts. He finally stops blaming others and takes responsibility. You found a lesson for all of us, to reflect inwardly and give way to our better instincts, getting off the downward spiral.
I really like what you said, Lee - but, as usually, and usually to no good end, I was thinking about your comment "but the choice is whether to give into these darker thoughts and instincts." Hmmmmm. You see, I've thought upon this topic (usually to no good end) for decades (!!!! I HATE admitting this... In my imagination, I'm not so different now as I was when I was 16 years old... a sad commentary in some way... and happy realization in others)... AND... the operative word here is... (wait for it...): CHOICE. From everything that I have read, this is no easy matter to resolve...
@@splitimage137. Always interesting philosophical ideas that come out of thinking about this stuff. A central one here is whether there is an unchanging eternal self. I think you know what the Buddhists say on this, since I know you have studied and thought about this stuff before. It also brings up the idea of freewill vs determinism. Kurt Vonnegut's (the "Slaughterhouse-Five" guy) thoughts on this in his novels is that only some of us have freewill, while others just follow a predetermined path. I take Socrates approach of "I know nothing." But at the same time I love to think and contemplate these different ideas. Edit: For as he also said, "the unexamined life is not worth living."
@@LeeKennison Good points, all. Lee, you mentioned Kurt Vonnegut. Tres Cool! Check out my comment here, where I suggest Amy someday check out William S. Burroughs 1953 book JUNKIE... which I read... and LITERALLY convinced me in my early 20s to NEVER abuse opioids, or anything else for that matter... although I STILL have an addiction problem with air, water and food. But... I'll kick those soon, I promise!!!
@@LeeKennison "unchanging eternal self" makes no sense at all to me. I watched my grandmother, whom I loved very much and spent most of my life with, disappear under the auspices of Alzheimer's Disease... her "self" was changing, largely disintegrating before my eyes over about a 3 year period... my "grandma" was gone long before her body gave out.
@@splitimage137. But is the self the mind? Is it the body? Is it the soul? Is it our perceptions of the world and the universe around us? Or are we just one small aspect of that greater universe looking back on itself? Is it none of these? Is it all of these? Is it all of these plus something else? Is it permanent and eternal? Is it all an illusion? From what little I understand in the Buddhist teaching on Non-Self, in a very Zen like paradoxical way, it is both all these things and none of these things at the same time. Add to that it is constantly changing all the time. This is why I find Socrates "I know nothing" a much easier concept to grasp. But at least Socrates taught me to ask a lot of questions. And like Socrates it often gets me in trouble.😉 And I very much understand your experience with your grandmother. I went through the same on a daily basis with my mother for several years, although more dementia than Alzheimer's. On the other hand, my grandmother (my mom's mother) was sharp and quick witted until she was 98 and had a stroke. She then lived another year till 99, in which she only had limited recollections of people and events. Oddly enough she remembered my girlfriend and her daughter, who she only met a couple of times, but often couldn't remember or recognize my mom or my aunt (her daughters).
Hi Amy, just loved your analysis of this often forgotten song . The Trial is of course upcoming and imo is the most operatic piece on this entire double album 👍
I've been listening to this album since it first came out. I still vividly remember going to the concert when it first came out. (A friend of mine actually played bass in the surrogate band during the tour.) You've certainly taken a deeper dive into the details than I ever have. Good job. I'm looking forward to The Trial and, of course, your overall thoughts.
I hope that when you come to the end of the album that you notice in the background "isn't this where /we came in" at the ending and beginning of the album.
when this song comes up in the movie pink is huddled in an arena bathroom stall with his little black book of poems/songs. before he gets to the lyrics of "stop" he mumbles a few lines from a song which would become the last song on roger waters first solo album (not counting "the final cut", you guys lol) titled "the pros and cons of hitchhiking". i always thought it was a fun little easter egg waters slipped into the movie. when roger was writing "the wall" he was writing "pros and cons" concurrently. he gave demos of both works to the band, and let them choose which one they wanted to do as a band project. happily for us they chose "the wall" because they thought "pros and cons" was even more personal to waters, if that was at all possible. so "pros and cons" became destined to be his first solo album a few years later.
Hi Amy... one of your biggest UA-cam fane here. @2:03 "...and the message is this: without Pink owning his part, he can never change. And in spite of the self-awareness and introspection that has sometimes appeared in the past few songs, he still does not acknowledge any responsibility; therefore: the show must go on." Spot on observation, imho, Amy. But... (and with me... isn't there always a "but"?), from all that I have gathered over the years about SERIOUS addiction problems... it makes your observations both completely understandable... and for me, just a bit hopeless... unless there is some kind of "miracle," effected from within or without, or a combination of both - it is DEVILISHLY, FIENDISHLY, INCREDIBLY difficult to "STOP" (as the song title says) using PROJECTION (seeing in others what is inside of you) and DENIAL (self-explanatory) to maintain "the dream." I am reminded of John Lennon's plaintive cry at the end of his first solo album... "The DREAM IS OVER." Yes - it can be, has been, and SHOULD be done: to confront oneself - because, as my wise old uncle once said... "A life unexamined is a life not worthy of living..." or, something to that effect. (My mind isn't what it used to be... in fact... what? did I just say that? hey............) I would recommend, Amy, the following book (see Wikepedia entry below) - where I remember the narrator saying that EVERY SINGLE CELL in his body ached for another hit of heroin... seriously... I read that in college and decided then and there, although I've tried a number of drugs over the decades... I would NEVER touch opioids... and I haven't. In fact, I'm still a little pissed off that I'm addicted to air, water, and food... and I don't like it!
Junkie: Confessions of an Unredeemed Drug Addict, or Junky, is a 1953 novel by American Beat generation writer William S. Burroughs. The book follows "William Lee" as he struggles with his addiction to morphine and heroin. Burroughs based the story on his own experiences with drugs, and he published it under the pen name William Lee. Some critics view the character William Lee as simply Burroughs himself; in this reading, Junkie is a largely-autobiographical memoir. Others view Lee as a fictional character based on the author.
Obviously it's too late because you already watched the Wall movie, but I would have loved to hear your reaction to the NEW tracks the movie features. I really hope you continue your Pink Floyd journey after you're done with The Wall. Thematically, The Final Cut is the sequel to The Wall. It's got deep lyrics, but it's not as complex or adventurous, although it's pretty good. I would suggest to also listen to The Dark Side of the Moon (their most successful album), Animals (sharp lyrics) and Wish you Were Here. All in chronological track order, of course.
Good choices! Just add PIPER AT THE GATES OF DAWN and MEDDLE, and you've got it... although, I actually I am partial to their soundtrack to their movie MORE, with the utterly beautiful CRYING SONG... which I have listened to over and over again through the years.
There is a scene in the movie, where he destroys his hotel room. In the aftermath he reassembles various broken items from the room in the form of crosses, or x's. Like the crossed hammers. This is actually a common occurrence with people suffering from schizophrenia. In fact I was deeply effected by that scene, because Id seen the same thing first hand when I was young. When my brother smashed up a bunch of his personal belongings, there was a similar aftermath. The thing that stuck out to me was a predominance of round items, broken in 4 pieces and arranged to form a cross out of round items. Most of this was his record collection 😭😭😭😭 There are allusions to Pink being based in part on Syd. The character is an blend of Roger, Syd and the rock start Rog was afraid he was becoming. So while there are elements of sanity in the aspects that are Rog, there is (at least in the film) an element of mental illness in the part that is Syd and what Rog i afraid of becoming. Very much looking forward to the end of this long wonderful journey you're leading us all on. Thank you for all the work you've put in on this and all your various projects! 🤘🧙♂🤘
Through Amy, I now see the depth and importance of 'The Wall'. How much influence, if any, was 'The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway' (1974) on Pink Floyd and 'The Wall'?
WOW! What an interesting question. I've been listening to both albums since almost forever... but it I never saw a connection between the two... other than they were both created within years of each other. LAMB is so very quirky... like Gabriel himself... THE WALL is anything BUT quirky, as I see it.
@@splitimage137. After this saga of a review with The Wall, I doubt Amy is ready to start a second, but I would love to hear her take on The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. I suggested it before, but crickets. I just completed a long look at the lyrics (bizarre doesn't begin to describe them, as you know). But after coming back to it again and again, I think I have the puzzle solved. I just published an essay on it called 'Nightmare or Nirvana?' on Medium. It's pretty long and now I'm looking to shorten it.....maybe send it to Vlad. LOL
When he says “The show must go on”, I see a double meaning here. Most of the second half of the album I believe is a psychological struggle to stay sane in his head. But while he is battling his demons in taking accountability, he also has a literal show that must go on as well. We see this in the reprise of “in the flesh” later on.
I believe The Dark Side Of The Moon is next... and I'm glad. I love most all Pink Floyd albums in one way or another, but ThHE FINAL CUT is the final album on that list. Have you heard some of their earlier albums, like PIPERS AT THE GATES OF DAWN or MEDDLE... and if so, wouldn't you like to hear Amy opine on those albums too? I know I would! (Of course your opinion is a valid as mine, we might just differ in this... and... what REALLY matters is what Vlad thinks... as HE is the gatekeeper...
I also think that The Final Cut is a great album, however not as epic as most of the other albums… Surely agree that it could wait, would actually fit as the final cut 😉
@@splitimage137. Ideally, yes. But I'm not sure she is ready for long form tracks like 'Meddle' as since having Lisle she has less time, and has steered clear of the likes of 'Close to the Edge' and early Mike Oldfield albums.
@@altair8598 Good point... and is EXACTLY why she should do Echoes from MEDDLE... we need some more long form prog-type rock to mix in with more simple material. Something (variety? diversity?) is the "spice of life," huh?
Fear, Responsibility, Choice, Reality, and Action. "Before you choose, decide." Pink and Rael are cut from the same cloth. However, Rael learns, whereas Pink cannot. Two GREAT concept albums. Two interesting but different takes on the same subject. No Exit.
I'm not sure if people have suggested these styles of music. It would be great to give them a shot, even if you don't make a video. Here they are: -Heilung Lifa Krigsgaldr Live -Hiroyuki Sawana Project emU "Attack on Titan" suite
No, Amy needs to start earlier than that, because Echoes has all the elements in it that point directly to DSOTM. And it has so much of the lyrical mysticism and behavioural questioning that gives birth to DSOTM.
@@gbsailing9436 Man... I can't wait until Amy hears Echoes... but it MUST be after DSotM... even though it was recorded the year prior. LIVE AT POMPEII is a great version, too, and there is a video for it... and it shows PF working on DSotM as well... especially how ON THE RUN was created. Magnificent!
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Happy new year Amy, Vlad and family. I've been listening to this album hundreds of times, and I know the last (4th) record face was the one I played the most despite its strange musicality compared to the 3 preceding. But to be 100% real, that's the album that made me stop listening to Pink Floyd and search for new music I've found in the Urban Culture. I can't reject your analysis and comments, as I had quite the same at first and it's the usual interpretation. But I find it too much "1st degree", taking the story as facts and not metaphors, giving Pink intents he never utters. And frankly, I also find the message and the delivery in that interpretation to be quite patronizing. I've come to a 2nd degree/level interpretation with the recurring hints of non-reality, things happening in one's mind, too much emphasis. I see in The Wall an attempt to display the absolute barrier embedded within all communications. The album is an eternal call to reach, whether within the cynical and hypocritical society, or through violence and power, or even naked, vulnerable and raw: nothing ever goes through. We all know The Wall is mainly a work of R. Waters, and so is that second layer message. For me, at that time, it was obvious that The Wall has gone too far in the bankable "concept-album" scheme, it was everyday on the radio for more than three years like the new commercial, plus the rumors of tensions within the band... We were no more in the poetry of the early albums, in a delicate harmony between incredibly talented artists looking for a path. The Wall is a R. Waters statement. He's using the band to expose his psychosis. It's fabulously wrapped in this bitter-sweet tell of Pink, a master-class of the music Pink Floyd was able to produce. But it will never be the same feeling as Wish You Were Here or Echoes. It may not be a popular opinion, but that's how I feel. And that's why I'm so eager you finally end this album up and get to know earlier works from Pink Floyd. Still, when I see you discoursing about this album, I think this is such a high quality academic work that it should be published as a thesis and earn you a Ph.D. Greetings!
The Dark Side Of The Moon is just perfect, by comparison. I doubt any of your criticisms of THE WALL apply to DSotM... (but... just watch you prove me wrong with a reply ;)
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@@splitimage137. Nah! I like DSotM very much, but I prefer WYWH for it's less abstract: DSotM talks about philosophical themes, when WYWH is about human relations. Also I don't want to prove anyone wrong. I always respect the expression of everyone's feelings and thoughts because they enrich my own.
Okay, way way way off topic, but why do UA-camrs say "there's a link there" and point to some random linkless corner of the video? I feel like I'm being gaslighted.
Because youtube should be showing a link there in the form of a box or bar. If you don't see it, then maybe you have an add blocker that might be blocking the link.
I was also often confused, and then I remembered that years ago I disabled these annotations. If you want them, make sure Settings>Playback>"Show in-video info cards" is enabled
@@MattKrogmeier The lyrics are from "5:11am (A Moment of Clarity)" from "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking". The "Closer, closer" is from "Your Possible Past", off of "The Final Cut" the rest is from The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking.
In the movie there are three bits of lyrics before he gets to "Stop". You have the first two correct.... First is from "Your Possible Pasts" (Do you remember me? How we used to be? Do you think we should be closer?). Then from "A Moment of Clarity" (and I put out my hand just to touch your soft hair..... a Little afraid) Then.... there are a couple of lines that I do not think ended up in any song down the track. Something about "Dirty old knifes" and "pointing guns in their backs". Any idea what that last phrase was from??
@@splitimage137. I'm flattered but it's her channel. Suffice it to say "Pink" is legitimately damaged and calling it his fault is misguided. Yes, he's struggling to heal and take charge but Amy essentially claims it's all his fault for having succumbed. That's too trite for how my peers and I felt it in the 70s when it was fresh. We all had personal perspectives on an educational (and other) systems fighting hard to beat you into conformity and hammering down any nail that stuck out. We had peers who I would not call failures to succumbed and were broken. Blaming them for not having overcome is anathema to me.
Amy, your analysis of The Wall not only made me rediscover why I love this album so much, but it also helped me uncover (many) things that were buried and hidden, even in songs that seemed so small and insignificant, like "Stop." It's always such a joy to discover things in the company of others and to see new layers through someone else's eyes. Thank you for continuing to make this one of my favorite journeys-now, not so solitary. Thank you for the company!
My familiarity with and understanding of this album is deep, and yet - somehow - you make me look like a novice after every song. Your analysis - musically, lyrically, and conceptually - is second to none. Another exceptional review on this exceptional album. I can't wait for The Trial and Outside the Wall, but I have to admit... I'm going to be kind of sad when you've completed the album because this has been an incredible journey. Thank you!
This beautifully captures many of my own thoughts. Yes yes yes.
This is 100% true. It is humbling to see somebody grasp so quickly ideas I haven't fully understood for decades.
Amy your ability to convey your thoughts on this outstanding work has compelled me to do a ton of self reflection on this dreary January day. Verdict to follow !
Thanks again, your insight and professionalism has validated the obsession with this masterpiece!!
I have been glued to every part of your journey and analysis for the wall for over a year.
For the the love of Pink, post the trail now and not months from now
❤
Excellent In-Depth with your insights on the lessons you have found as this narrative continues to develop. You had several great observations, such as your thoughts on the two key factors here: The 1st on the power of decision, and 2nd on self-reflection/-accountability/-awareness. Pink finally decides to stop his decent into madness, with his own self-accountability bringing him closer to this decision. Pink has previously been nurturing his dark side, which we all have within us, but the choice is whether to give into these darker thoughts and instincts. He finally stops blaming others and takes responsibility. You found a lesson for all of us, to reflect inwardly and give way to our better instincts, getting off the downward spiral.
I really like what you said, Lee - but, as usually, and usually to no good end, I was thinking about your comment "but the choice is whether to give into these darker thoughts and instincts." Hmmmmm. You see, I've thought upon this topic (usually to no good end) for decades (!!!! I HATE admitting this... In my imagination, I'm not so different now as I was when I was 16 years old... a sad commentary in some way... and happy realization in others)... AND... the operative word here is... (wait for it...): CHOICE. From everything that I have read, this is no easy matter to resolve...
@@splitimage137. Always interesting philosophical ideas that come out of thinking about this stuff. A central one here is whether there is an unchanging eternal self. I think you know what the Buddhists say on this, since I know you have studied and thought about this stuff before. It also brings up the idea of freewill vs determinism. Kurt Vonnegut's (the "Slaughterhouse-Five" guy) thoughts on this in his novels is that only some of us have freewill, while others just follow a predetermined path. I take Socrates approach of "I know nothing." But at the same time I love to think and contemplate these different ideas. Edit: For as he also said, "the unexamined life is not worth living."
@@LeeKennison Good points, all. Lee, you mentioned Kurt Vonnegut. Tres Cool! Check out my comment here, where I suggest Amy someday check out William S. Burroughs 1953 book JUNKIE... which I read... and LITERALLY convinced me in my early 20s to NEVER abuse opioids, or anything else for that matter... although I STILL have an addiction problem with air, water and food. But... I'll kick those soon, I promise!!!
@@LeeKennison "unchanging eternal self" makes no sense at all to me. I watched my grandmother, whom I loved very much and spent most of my life with, disappear under the auspices of Alzheimer's Disease... her "self" was changing, largely disintegrating before my eyes over about a 3 year period... my "grandma" was gone long before her body gave out.
@@splitimage137. But is the self the mind? Is it the body? Is it the soul? Is it our perceptions of the world and the universe around us? Or are we just one small aspect of that greater universe looking back on itself? Is it none of these? Is it all of these? Is it all of these plus something else? Is it permanent and eternal? Is it all an illusion? From what little I understand in the Buddhist teaching on Non-Self, in a very Zen like paradoxical way, it is both all these things and none of these things at the same time. Add to that it is constantly changing all the time. This is why I find Socrates "I know nothing" a much easier concept to grasp. But at least Socrates taught me to ask a lot of questions. And like Socrates it often gets me in trouble.😉
And I very much understand your experience with your grandmother. I went through the same on a daily basis with my mother for several years, although more dementia than Alzheimer's. On the other hand, my grandmother (my mom's mother) was sharp and quick witted until she was 98 and had a stroke. She then lived another year till 99, in which she only had limited recollections of people and events. Oddly enough she remembered my girlfriend and her daughter, who she only met a couple of times, but often couldn't remember or recognize my mom or my aunt (her daughters).
18:07 - oh wow, you're doing the movie as a thing we'll get to see??? Oh wow... soooooo excited to hear that!
Jeepers. How much effort went into this analysis? Brilliant 👏 👏
Hi Amy, just loved your analysis of this often forgotten song . The Trial is of course upcoming and imo is the most operatic piece on this entire double album 👍
I've been listening to this album since it first came out. I still vividly remember going to the concert when it first came out. (A friend of mine actually played bass in the surrogate band during the tour.) You've certainly taken a deeper dive into the details than I ever have. Good job. I'm looking forward to The Trial and, of course, your overall thoughts.
Great job, Amy! Really looking forward to the trial! Thank you.
Great review Amy. It's one helluva journey. The details might be different but it's a journey we all get to take if we decide to.
And... oftentimes... even if we HAVEN'T decided to... such is FATE!
Yes Amy, You´re good at this.
Excellent Work Again Amy!!!
I hope that when you come to the end of the album that you notice in the background "isn't this where /we came in" at the ending and beginning of the album.
when this song comes up in the movie pink is huddled in an arena bathroom stall with his little black book of poems/songs. before he gets to the lyrics of "stop" he mumbles a few lines from a song which would become the last song on roger waters first solo album (not counting "the final cut", you guys lol) titled "the pros and cons of hitchhiking". i always thought it was a fun little easter egg waters slipped into the movie. when roger was writing "the wall" he was writing "pros and cons" concurrently. he gave demos of both works to the band, and let them choose which one they wanted to do as a band project. happily for us they chose "the wall" because they thought "pros and cons" was even more personal to waters, if that was at all possible. so "pros and cons" became destined to be his first solo album a few years later.
Yup. She is going to love The Trial.
Hi Amy... one of your biggest UA-cam fane here. @2:03 "...and the message is this: without Pink owning his part, he can never change. And in spite of the self-awareness and introspection that has sometimes appeared in the past few songs, he still does not acknowledge any responsibility; therefore: the show must go on."
Spot on observation, imho, Amy. But... (and with me... isn't there always a "but"?), from all that I have gathered over the years about SERIOUS addiction problems... it makes your observations both completely understandable... and for me, just a bit hopeless... unless there is some kind of "miracle," effected from within or without, or a combination of both - it is DEVILISHLY, FIENDISHLY, INCREDIBLY difficult to "STOP" (as the song title says) using PROJECTION (seeing in others what is inside of you) and DENIAL (self-explanatory) to maintain "the dream." I am reminded of John Lennon's plaintive cry at the end of his first solo album... "The DREAM IS OVER." Yes - it can be, has been, and SHOULD be done: to confront oneself - because, as my wise old uncle once said... "A life unexamined is a life not worthy of living..." or, something to that effect. (My mind isn't what it used to be... in fact... what? did I just say that? hey............)
I would recommend, Amy, the following book (see Wikepedia entry below) - where I remember the narrator saying that EVERY SINGLE CELL in his body ached for another hit of heroin... seriously... I read that in college and decided then and there, although I've tried a number of drugs over the decades... I would NEVER touch opioids... and I haven't. In fact, I'm still a little pissed off that I'm addicted to air, water, and food... and I don't like it!
Junkie: Confessions of an Unredeemed Drug Addict, or Junky, is a 1953 novel by American Beat generation writer William S. Burroughs. The book follows "William Lee" as he struggles with his addiction to morphine and heroin. Burroughs based the story on his own experiences with drugs, and he published it under the pen name William Lee. Some critics view the character William Lee as simply Burroughs himself; in this reading, Junkie is a largely-autobiographical memoir. Others view Lee as a fictional character based on the author.
Interesting thoughts and references here.
Obviously it's too late because you already watched the Wall movie, but I would have loved to hear your reaction to the NEW tracks the movie features.
I really hope you continue your Pink Floyd journey after you're done with The Wall.
Thematically, The Final Cut is the sequel to The Wall. It's got deep lyrics, but it's not as complex or adventurous, although it's pretty good.
I would suggest to also listen to The Dark Side of the Moon (their most successful album), Animals (sharp lyrics) and Wish you Were Here. All in chronological track order, of course.
Good choices! Just add PIPER AT THE GATES OF DAWN and MEDDLE, and you've got it... although, I actually I am partial to their soundtrack to their movie MORE, with the utterly beautiful CRYING SONG... which I have listened to over and over again through the years.
@@splitimage137. Haven't heard of MORE, I'll check it out!
wow in how you analyze the album. Time to know takes me back to the Dark Side of the Moon song Time.
There is a scene in the movie, where he destroys his hotel room. In the aftermath he reassembles various broken items from the room in the form of crosses, or x's. Like the crossed hammers. This is actually a common occurrence with people suffering from schizophrenia. In fact I was deeply effected by that scene, because Id seen the same thing first hand when I was young. When my brother smashed up a bunch of his personal belongings, there was a similar aftermath. The thing that stuck out to me was a predominance of round items, broken in 4 pieces and arranged to form a cross out of round items. Most of this was his record collection 😭😭😭😭
There are allusions to Pink being based in part on Syd. The character is an blend of Roger, Syd and the rock start Rog was afraid he was becoming. So while there are elements of sanity in the aspects that are Rog, there is (at least in the film) an element of mental illness in the part that is Syd and what Rog i afraid of becoming.
Very much looking forward to the end of this long wonderful journey you're leading us all on. Thank you for all the work you've put in on this and all your various projects!
🤘🧙♂🤘
Through Amy, I now see the depth and importance of 'The Wall'. How much influence, if any, was 'The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway' (1974) on Pink Floyd and 'The Wall'?
WOW! What an interesting question. I've been listening to both albums since almost forever... but it I never saw a connection between the two... other than they were both created within years of each other. LAMB is so very quirky... like Gabriel himself... THE WALL is anything BUT quirky, as I see it.
@@splitimage137. After this saga of a review with The Wall, I doubt Amy is ready to start a second, but I would love to hear her take on The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway. I suggested it before, but crickets. I just completed a long look at the lyrics (bizarre doesn't begin to describe them, as you know). But after coming back to it again and again, I think I have the puzzle solved. I just published an essay on it called 'Nightmare or Nirvana?' on Medium. It's pretty long and now I'm looking to shorten it.....maybe send it to Vlad. LOL
Can't wait!
Small song , great melodies and vocals
When he says “The show must go on”, I see a double meaning here. Most of the second half of the album I believe is a psychological struggle to stay sane in his head. But while he is battling his demons in taking accountability, he also has a literal show that must go on as well. We see this in the reprise of “in the flesh” later on.
can't wait for you to hear the trial
Great, nice to see you again, please remember Roger Waters Amused to death
Next: The Final Cut.
STOOOOOOOOOOOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe The Dark Side Of The Moon is next... and I'm glad. I love most all Pink Floyd albums in one way or another, but ThHE FINAL CUT is the final album on that list. Have you heard some of their earlier albums, like PIPERS AT THE GATES OF DAWN or MEDDLE... and if so, wouldn't you like to hear Amy opine on those albums too? I know I would! (Of course your opinion is a valid as mine, we might just differ in this... and... what REALLY matters is what Vlad thinks... as HE is the gatekeeper...
I also think that The Final Cut is a great album, however not as epic as most of the other albums… Surely agree that it could wait, would actually fit as the final cut 😉
@@splitimage137. Ideally, yes. But I'm not sure she is ready for long form tracks like 'Meddle' as since having Lisle she has less time, and has steered clear of the likes of 'Close to the Edge' and early Mike Oldfield albums.
@@altair8598 Good point... and is EXACTLY why she should do Echoes from MEDDLE... we need some more long form prog-type rock to mix in with more simple material. Something (variety? diversity?) is the "spice of life," huh?
Fear, Responsibility, Choice, Reality, and Action. "Before you choose, decide."
Pink and Rael are cut from the same cloth. However, Rael learns, whereas Pink cannot. Two GREAT concept albums. Two interesting but different takes on the same subject. No Exit.
I'm not sure if people have suggested these styles of music. It would be great to give them a shot, even if you don't make a video. Here they are:
-Heilung Lifa Krigsgaldr Live
-Hiroyuki Sawana Project emU "Attack on Titan" suite
Waiting ... Waiting ... Waiting ... for the NEXT (analisys). Thank you, almost finishing "The Wall". The next Job is "Dark Side of the moon", right?
No, Amy needs to start earlier than that, because Echoes has all the elements in it that point directly to DSOTM. And it has so much of the lyrical mysticism and behavioural questioning that gives birth to DSOTM.
@@gbsailing9436 Man... I can't wait until Amy hears Echoes... but it MUST be after DSotM... even though it was recorded the year prior. LIVE AT POMPEII is a great version, too, and there is a video for it... and it shows PF working on DSotM as well... especially how ON THE RUN was created. Magnificent!
Happy new year Amy, Vlad and family.
I've been listening to this album hundreds of times, and I know the last (4th) record face was the one I played the most despite its strange musicality compared to the 3 preceding. But to be 100% real, that's the album that made me stop listening to Pink Floyd and search for new music I've found in the Urban Culture. I can't reject your analysis and comments, as I had quite the same at first and it's the usual interpretation. But I find it too much "1st degree", taking the story as facts and not metaphors, giving Pink intents he never utters. And frankly, I also find the message and the delivery in that interpretation to be quite patronizing. I've come to a 2nd degree/level interpretation with the recurring hints of non-reality, things happening in one's mind, too much emphasis. I see in The Wall an attempt to display the absolute barrier embedded within all communications. The album is an eternal call to reach, whether within the cynical and hypocritical society, or through violence and power, or even naked, vulnerable and raw: nothing ever goes through. We all know The Wall is mainly a work of R. Waters, and so is that second layer message. For me, at that time, it was obvious that The Wall has gone too far in the bankable "concept-album" scheme, it was everyday on the radio for more than three years like the new commercial, plus the rumors of tensions within the band... We were no more in the poetry of the early albums, in a delicate harmony between incredibly talented artists looking for a path. The Wall is a R. Waters statement. He's using the band to expose his psychosis. It's fabulously wrapped in this bitter-sweet tell of Pink, a master-class of the music Pink Floyd was able to produce. But it will never be the same feeling as Wish You Were Here or Echoes.
It may not be a popular opinion, but that's how I feel.
And that's why I'm so eager you finally end this album up and get to know earlier works from Pink Floyd.
Still, when I see you discoursing about this album, I think this is such a high quality academic work that it should be published as a thesis and earn you a Ph.D.
Greetings!
The Dark Side Of The Moon is just perfect, by comparison. I doubt any of your criticisms of THE WALL apply to DSotM... (but... just watch you prove me wrong with a reply ;)
@@splitimage137. Nah! I like DSotM very much, but I prefer WYWH for it's less abstract: DSotM talks about philosophical themes, when WYWH is about human relations.
Also I don't want to prove anyone wrong. I always respect the expression of everyone's feelings and thoughts because they enrich my own.
Okay, way way way off topic, but why do UA-camrs say "there's a link there" and point to some random linkless corner of the video? I feel like I'm being gaslighted.
Yeah... I've noticed that too.
Because youtube should be showing a link there in the form of a box or bar. If you don't see it, then maybe you have an add blocker that might be blocking the link.
I was also often confused, and then I remembered that years ago I disabled these annotations. If you want them, make sure Settings>Playback>"Show in-video info cards" is enabled
Let's take it down a gritty path next with some George Thorogood & The Destroyers
The lyrics Pink recites in the bathroom stall actually became a song for Roger Waters first solo album.
Some of those lyrics are on the Final Cut…is that what you’re referring to?
@@MattKrogmeier The lyrics are from "5:11am (A Moment of Clarity)" from "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking". The "Closer, closer" is from "Your Possible Past", off of "The Final Cut" the rest is from The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking.
@ we’re both right. “ Do you remember me? How we used to be? Do you think we should be closer?” Is from “Your Possible Pasts” on TFC.
In the movie there are three bits of lyrics before he gets to "Stop". You have the first two correct.... First is from "Your Possible Pasts" (Do you remember me? How we used to be? Do you think we should be closer?). Then from "A Moment of Clarity" (and I put out my hand just to touch your soft hair..... a Little afraid) Then.... there are a couple of lines that I do not think ended up in any song down the track. Something about "Dirty old knifes" and "pointing guns in their backs". Any idea what that last phrase was from??
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Please! React to the harp twins...
The HARP TWINS??? Never heard of them, but it might just be right up Amy's alley. Perhaps you could recommend one of their best tracks to check out?
Please react to the best of Frank Zappa. We need to know.
I disagree with so much of your analysis. I generally like your channel but this was painful to me.
From my perspective, it would have been interesting for you to compare/contrast your intepretation with Amy's.... but, hey... that's just me ;)
@@splitimage137. I'm flattered but it's her channel. Suffice it to say "Pink" is legitimately damaged and calling it his fault is misguided. Yes, he's struggling to heal and take charge but Amy essentially claims it's all his fault for having succumbed. That's too trite for how my peers and I felt it in the 70s when it was fresh. We all had personal perspectives on an educational (and other) systems fighting hard to beat you into conformity and hammering down any nail that stuck out. We had peers who I would not call failures to succumbed and were broken. Blaming them for not having overcome is anathema to me.
@@wadehines9971 There you go! I was just wondering what you were thinking... and know I have some idea. Caio!