Great review. Thanks. What surprises me is the pricing of these lights. At this point Aputue with very similar in concept 60w light with an option for a handheld operation that comes with a case is cheaper than Godox. The new Aputure amaran COB 60d and 60x are ~40% cheaper than Godox ML 60. Not to mention that Aputure's lights support standard bowens mount and have a mobile app to operate wirelessly via bluetooth. At first I was excited about the Godox ML60 Bi, but decided to get Aputure amaran COB 60x instead. It's just cheaper and doesn't require to buy the adapter for the mount that also increases the price.
Thanks for your input. Always appreciated. The Aputure 60 series have more to do with the Godox S60, but not really with the ML Series. It’s a completely different type of light.
@@ArtVideoProductions You are probably thinking about a different Aputure light. The new Aputure amaran COB 60x is a direct competitor to Godox ML60 Bi. It's a very small light for a similar use-case with V-mount on the light suitable for a handheld operation exactly like Godox ML60 Bi.
I agree with you. With the big push Aputure has been making into the budget market as of late, like with their Amaran line for example, I think a lot of light companies are going to have problems selling their lights at higher prices. Especially considering Aputure made the very smart decision to make even their budget lights work with their pretty fantastic Sidius Link app.
@@GeraldBertramPhotography This is a classical defense move against a disruptor. In the theory of disruptive innovation, a disruptor usually introduces a much cheaper product of a good enough quality inferior to the industry leader's product. These "good enough" and "cheaper" parts allow the disruptor to take a very big chunk of a lower part of the market. It even increases the size of the market by attracting an audience that wasn't ready to pay for an expensive leading product. The economics and low margins of the disruptor are usually uneconomical for a leader to do the same and protect itself in time. If the leader blinks it becomes too late - the disruptor who already owns a big chunk of the lower and middle market goes upmarket with higher quality and more expensive products to start competing directly on the leader level and cutting off an even bigger part of the market on top. Here we observe a classic and the only possible business move - the leader disrupts the disruptor and introduces an even less expensive product than the disruptor's product. This Aputure Amaran product line is exactly the defense against Godox and Neewer - the market disruptors. Now Godox's product is not only inferior to Aputure's Amaron line but also more expensive. I'm eager to watch all the coming reviews of Aputure Amaran COB 60d and Amaran COB 60x lights and comparison to Godox ML60. As I remember reviews of Aputure Amaran 100/200d/x were really positive and made it a no-brainer to buy.
98% of all my lights got the App. But when I’m working on my commercial productions, I don’t even have time to remember there’s a App l, so I never use…
hello sir iam a wedding photographer now iam start to learn videography so which light is useful for outdoor videography and photoshoot at night pls suggest
Thanks for sharing another best review of lighting products. A couple of thoughts/feedback. 1. I watched your 3 videos about how to strap the Godox power adapter on a light stand using a velcro strap instead, but I still don't know how to make it step by step. Any chance you can show us in the next video? 2. The old Godox reflectors shared by their strobe flashes and continuous LED lights can take one of those round grids, but for the new so called hyper reflectors on their continuous LED lights, they no longer make that lip to accept the old grids, no to mention ML60 is on its own size. Those grids actually are very effective and inexpensive accessories. 3. Too bad they didn't ship you the 3 lights kit. I am really curious about the kit bag, and whether the bag can fit 3 ML60 lights instead.
Thanks man, I really appreciate it. On the new reflectors, yes, they should come up with a solution for installing grids. If you buy the kits, the included Godox kit bags will accommodate everything that comes with that kit. Watch this 2 minute video, the case is shown at the end but very briefly ua-cam.com/video/5Juj5nPNBYw/v-deo.html The ML30 lights are very new so they may not be available for immediate shipping. Also, If you use my affiliated links on the description, they don’t cost you anything extra and it helps my channel as I receive a tiny commission from BH or Amazon. On how to attach the power supply to the light stand, here’s the link ua-cam.com/video/I-PK2-ZL890/v-deo.html Advance to 34:59. To buy the self adhesive little cushion pad I showed, here’s the link for the BEST one you can by which is what I use! amzn.to/3xyKS29 They’re not cheap but there’s nothing out there that compares to it.
@@ArtVideoProductions Many thanks for the Godox link. Looks like it can also fit 3 ML60. Aha, I missed your review on SZ150R. It answered my question. It was 2 velcro straps, the fuzzy one sticks to the power adapter and the coarse one to strap it to the light stand. Also one tip to share. I think you can stick some window gels on the ML30 silicone light modifiers to create some interesting cucoloris background.
Yet another fantastic review there. I'd actually call your videos mini-workshops! I'm planning to buy one of these lights (perhaps the daylight only model) and wondering how different they are from using an LED panel light like the Godox 500/1000? The primary reason for me to use an LED panel or flexible mat is the smaller form factor, especially with diffusion or slimmer softbox, but products like the ML30 bring a new dimension to portability and usability. Looking forward to a video from you that compares different light types and what fits which use case better. This will be especially useful for hobby content creators.
Thanks man. I’ll give the light comparison video you suggested a thought. I appreciate it and thanks for your support 👊 I would buy the bicolor. It’s so useful to have the option to change. I need that all the time.
@@ArtVideoProductions Is there any chance you can tell me how long the battery lasts without plugging into a power source? Let's say i go out in woods for a film scene, can it last 8 hours on mid- high power without a power source, with battery alone? Thanks a lot for the video btw.
@@ArtVideoProductions Oh wait sorry i didn't see the battery part on your video! I thought the batteries are included with the purchase. Do i have to buy them seperately???
Thank you for you video, amazing explanation. If i want to picture object like watch or comersional object, what light you can be good for me . I need alitel strong light , do you think the ml 30 gonna be good for me? Or i need to two lights from this?
Unfortunately, the case is no longer available. That case you saw in the video is for the DJI Osmo Mobile 3 DJI Osmo Mobile 4 *case* So, you can search for that. Make sure the inside foam is fully removable, then you’re good! Case must measure at least 10.24 x 3.35 x 7.87 inches
I just got a ML-60bi but couldnt the softbox...will this diffuser CS1625 do a good job for a simple interview? I see how you used it and I guess you have to place it very close to the subject...I don't want to deal with bowen adapters...thanks for the video
I guess it could do well and yes, you have to place it close if you want a softer light, but me, personally, every interview I do in the simplest, I use modifiers of a minimum of 24”.
@@ArtVideoProductions thanks...so you keep them at a minimum distance of 24"? very close...defintely a softbox would be more appropriate for interviews. Thanks so much
@@TheFandangovideoguy no the 24” means the size of the soft box. But yes, the closer you place the light on the subject, the more lighting control for artistic looks, thus making the light softer. If you’ve never heard of the “Inverse Square Law” for lighting or audio, there’s a tone of videos on UA-cam. This is CRITICAL.
@@ArtVideoProductions ok...I was looking at the Godox AD-S60S softbox but it will not arrive on time for my corporate video so...I will improvise for now. thanks so much!
Thank you for the great review. Hope you can help me out and answer this question. With the godox light diffuser is there a difference with the round vs the box shaped in light effect? Thank you in advance.
16:50 I prefer the square one. And for being bigger. And as you could see in the video, 23:19 , I showed an example using it as well. I hope that helps.
Não vejo a hora de pegar esse maior. Comprei, mas está como backordered na Adorama. Vou usar no meu V1, pra flash mesmo. Você sabe a data que vão liberar?
Are you sure that the ML60bi has half the brightness of the ML60? It definitely has lower brightness, but according to the specifications on the Godox website, it's 7470 lux (ML60bi) vs. 8590 lux (ML60) at 1 meter with a color temperature of 5600K, which is approx. 14% difference.
This review is about the Ml30 only. Maybe you got confused a bit since I had a ML60 to this review. What I said was, the Ml30 should be about half of the brightness of the ML60. Noting mentioned about a ML60Bi.
When it comes to Aputure lights, what they make best are the high end lights. The Amaran is a budget series from them as you know. I haven’t had the chance to compare the two in hands but what I can tell you for sure is that the Godox ML 30 and 60, the fans are whisper quiet, made of Metal and the colors are extremely accurate. Usually required for what I do, I have to bring mostly 600 and 1200 watt lights on most sets and I rarely use those little lights. But for small rooms, the ML series is a good choice.
@@ArtVideoProductions yeah I know... I saw many videos about the ML60 and 30 and, it is a good option. But, in pace of be a inicial light for a future bigger set-up, I think that the amaran it's a cheaper entrance for light world and already comes with Bowens mount. I pretend to use on weddings. And I sincerely appreciate your vídeo and response. Thanks!!
Same size as I showed, only shorter. Also the ML60 doesn’t work with the App. Only the 30. And for fun, besides only doing filmmaking with it, I actually mounted the ML30 on top, as a camera light for a Bar Mitzvah video. Works out pretty good! This thing is light! Micro V mount Battery was attached to the tripod. One of the best on camera lights I’ve ever used. Btw, my name is also Luis 👊
You divide the watts from the light with the watt hour on each Sony battery. Ml30 (30 watts) divided by the battery watt hour. Usually each Sony has 48 watt hour.
@@ArtVideoProductions thank you so much. Have you ran run time testing on your battery. I have the knock off batteries you use, and then open the input flap and connect battery banks to them. That gives way longer run times.
@@macedoniamissionarymediade1962 batteries are ran by Watt-Hour. So, attracting 2 Sony NPF 970 = 98 watt hour usually. 100w / by 60 watts (ML30) at 100% = 1 hour 30 minutes approx.
@@ArtVideoProductions I was thinking more about using the S2 bowens adapter with it, which will actually manage and balance the weight. A fresnel (such as the Aputure X2) would be interesting for this small light to enhance its capability, particularly for weddings and portraits.
@@lux4us to what you want to do, I think you have the wrong light. You probably want the Godox S60. You will NOT need the projection accessories. The light itself will work for you. ua-cam.com/video/83GBhIwUgHk/v-deo.html
Thanks for the detailed video. But it's way too long-winded. Not sure if many will sit through it all. :) It's a pity that you spent too much time on some of the topics. For example, the part on fan noise..... it was way too long. It's a pity also you had both the ML30 and ML60 but you did not show the differences in the light power. I think that's what people would be interested to decide whether ML30 or ML60 is more suitable for their needs. Just my honest comments. :)
Hi Adrian, and thanks for watching abs for your feedback. Every video I make, I look at my analytics. I wish I could attach a screen shot of the “audience retention” which is pretty impressive. Yes, most people watch it and without fast forwarding. That’s why I continue to do it this way. There’s a channel called “gaffer and gear” (I’m sure you know it). Many reviews are as long as 50 minutes. The power difference between the ML30 and 60 is exactly that. 50%. You’ll need to bring the ML30 half closer to a wall to get the same exposure. Fan noise: this is a topic that people really want to get as much info and demo as possible (again, the positive analytics). If there was a dip on it, I would have stopped doing or try another approach. But to be honest, for the fan part, I’ll try shortening things. Thanks again for your feedback.
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As always, thank you. One of the best in depth video review on UA-cam
Thank you so much!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
It is my pleasure doing this for y’all. Took 3 whole days making this video 😭
Great review. Thanks. What surprises me is the pricing of these lights. At this point Aputue with very similar in concept 60w light with an option for a handheld operation that comes with a case is cheaper than Godox. The new Aputure amaran COB 60d and 60x are ~40% cheaper than Godox ML 60. Not to mention that Aputure's lights support standard bowens mount and have a mobile app to operate wirelessly via bluetooth. At first I was excited about the Godox ML60 Bi, but decided to get Aputure amaran COB 60x instead. It's just cheaper and doesn't require to buy the adapter for the mount that also increases the price.
Thanks for your input. Always appreciated. The Aputure 60 series have more to do with the Godox S60, but not really with the ML Series. It’s a completely different type of light.
@@ArtVideoProductions You are probably thinking about a different Aputure light. The new Aputure amaran COB 60x is a direct competitor to Godox ML60 Bi. It's a very small light for a similar use-case with V-mount on the light suitable for a handheld operation exactly like Godox ML60 Bi.
@@MichaelBabich thanks for the update Michael. I’ll check it out.
I agree with you. With the big push Aputure has been making into the budget market as of late, like with their Amaran line for example, I think a lot of light companies are going to have problems selling their lights at higher prices. Especially considering Aputure made the very smart decision to make even their budget lights work with their pretty fantastic Sidius Link app.
@@GeraldBertramPhotography This is a classical defense move against a disruptor. In the theory of disruptive innovation, a disruptor usually introduces a much cheaper product of a good enough quality inferior to the industry leader's product. These "good enough" and "cheaper" parts allow the disruptor to take a very big chunk of a lower part of the market. It even increases the size of the market by attracting an audience that wasn't ready to pay for an expensive leading product. The economics and low margins of the disruptor are usually uneconomical for a leader to do the same and protect itself in time. If the leader blinks it becomes too late - the disruptor who already owns a big chunk of the lower and middle market goes upmarket with higher quality and more expensive products to start competing directly on the leader level and cutting off an even bigger part of the market on top.
Here we observe a classic and the only possible business move - the leader disrupts the disruptor and introduces an even less expensive product than the disruptor's product. This Aputure Amaran product line is exactly the defense against Godox and Neewer - the market disruptors. Now Godox's product is not only inferior to Aputure's Amaron line but also more expensive. I'm eager to watch all the coming reviews of Aputure Amaran COB 60d and Amaran COB 60x lights and comparison to Godox ML60. As I remember reviews of Aputure Amaran 100/200d/x were really positive and made it a no-brainer to buy.
I wish they made a V mount sled for it.
Very thorough review and comparison HERE !
Appreciate the depth here 💪🏼
Great Video. I wish they also implented bluetooth in the ml60. Totally prefer those but the missing app functionality is a bummer...
98% of all my lights got the App. But when I’m working on my commercial productions, I don’t even have time to remember there’s a App l, so I never use…
I got my Ml60 bi last month and it has bluetooth, so I think they updated it?
hey AVP - excellent review - just need to ask whats the last song you used in the video? its very similar to enigma, would love to get it.
@@OffTheBeatenTrackSA it’s UA-cam soundtracks. I can access them now so I don’t know the name.
hello sir iam a wedding photographer
now iam start to learn videography so which light is useful for outdoor videography and photoshoot at night pls suggest
Amazing review. Thanks very much.
Great review, thank you!
Thanks for sharing another best review of lighting products. A couple of thoughts/feedback. 1. I watched your 3 videos about how to strap the Godox power adapter on a light stand using a velcro strap instead, but I still don't know how to make it step by step. Any chance you can show us in the next video? 2. The old Godox reflectors shared by their strobe flashes and continuous LED lights can take one of those round grids, but for the new so called hyper reflectors on their continuous LED lights, they no longer make that lip to accept the old grids, no to mention ML60 is on its own size. Those grids actually are very effective and inexpensive accessories. 3. Too bad they didn't ship you the 3 lights kit. I am really curious about the kit bag, and whether the bag can fit 3 ML60 lights instead.
Thanks man, I really appreciate it. On the new reflectors, yes, they should come up with a solution for installing grids.
If you buy the kits, the included Godox kit bags will accommodate everything that comes with that kit. Watch this 2 minute video, the case is shown at the end but very briefly ua-cam.com/video/5Juj5nPNBYw/v-deo.html
The ML30 lights are very new so they may not be available for immediate shipping. Also, If you use my affiliated links on the description, they don’t cost you anything extra and it helps my channel as I receive a tiny commission from BH or Amazon.
On how to attach the power supply to the light stand, here’s the link ua-cam.com/video/I-PK2-ZL890/v-deo.html Advance to 34:59.
To buy the self adhesive little cushion pad I showed, here’s the link for the BEST one you can by which is what I use! amzn.to/3xyKS29
They’re not cheap but there’s nothing out there that compares to it.
@@ArtVideoProductions Many thanks for the Godox link. Looks like it can also fit 3 ML60.
Aha, I missed your review on SZ150R. It answered my question. It was 2 velcro straps, the fuzzy one sticks to the power adapter and the coarse one to strap it to the light stand.
Also one tip to share. I think you can stick some window gels on the ML30 silicone light modifiers to create some interesting cucoloris background.
Hi! Great video! I saw the bowens adapter on Adorama, do you know if Glow and Godox are the same brand? They look identical. thank you
Yet another fantastic review there. I'd actually call your videos mini-workshops! I'm planning to buy one of these lights (perhaps the daylight only model) and wondering how different they are from using an LED panel light like the Godox 500/1000? The primary reason for me to use an LED panel or flexible mat is the smaller form factor, especially with diffusion or slimmer softbox, but products like the ML30 bring a new dimension to portability and usability. Looking forward to a video from you that compares different light types and what fits which use case better. This will be especially useful for hobby content creators.
Thanks man. I’ll give the light comparison video you suggested a thought. I appreciate it and thanks for your support 👊
I would buy the bicolor. It’s so useful to have the option to change. I need that all the time.
@@ArtVideoProductions Is there any chance you can tell me how long the battery lasts without plugging into a power source? Let's say i go out in woods for a film scene, can it last 8 hours on mid- high power without a power source, with battery alone?
Thanks a lot for the video btw.
@@ArtVideoProductions Oh wait sorry i didn't see the battery part on your video! I thought the batteries are included with the purchase. Do i have to buy them seperately???
@@Dale_Blackburn the batteries are not included. At least that was the case a year ago. But I don’t think they include, even now.
Thank you for you video, amazing explanation.
If i want to picture object like watch or comersional object, what light you can be good for me .
I need alitel strong light , do you think the ml 30 gonna be good for me?
Or i need to two lights from this?
Really good review!!!! Tks a lot!
Thanks Arnaldo! Tamos aí primo!
What a good fan ❤
Great content thank you 👌🏻
Great review. Thanks. Please tell me which case do you use for silicone modifiers?
Unfortunately, the case is no longer available. That case you saw in the video is for the DJI Osmo Mobile 3 DJI Osmo Mobile 4 *case* So, you can search for that. Make sure the inside foam is fully removable, then you’re good! Case must measure at least 10.24 x 3.35 x 7.87 inches
@@ArtVideoProductions Thank you very much!
Great one brother . Can I use profoto softbox with this light
That you have to call BH
I just got a ML-60bi but couldnt the softbox...will this diffuser CS1625 do a good job for a simple interview? I see how you used it and I guess you have to place it very close to the subject...I don't want to deal with bowen adapters...thanks for the video
I guess it could do well and yes, you have to place it close if you want a softer light, but me, personally, every interview I do in the simplest, I use modifiers of a minimum of 24”.
@@ArtVideoProductions thanks...so you keep them at a minimum distance of 24"? very close...defintely a softbox would be more appropriate for interviews. Thanks so much
@@TheFandangovideoguy no the 24” means the size of the soft box. But yes, the closer you place the light on the subject, the more lighting control for artistic looks, thus making the light softer. If you’ve never heard of the “Inverse Square Law” for lighting or audio, there’s a tone of videos on UA-cam. This is CRITICAL.
@@ArtVideoProductions ok...I was looking at the Godox AD-S60S softbox but it will not arrive on time for my corporate video so...I will improvise for now. thanks so much!
Thank you for the great review. Hope you can help me out and answer this question. With the godox light diffuser is there a difference with the round vs the box shaped in light effect? Thank you in advance.
16:50 I prefer the square one. And for being bigger. And as you could see in the video, 23:19 , I showed an example using it as well. I hope that helps.
@@ArtVideoProductions thank you very much!!!!!!
Não vejo a hora de pegar esse maior. Comprei, mas está como backordered na Adorama. Vou usar no meu V1, pra flash mesmo. Você sabe a data que vão liberar?
Nenhuma ideia, primo. Também comprei uma Canon R3… paguei…talvez em fevereiro chega essa p**rra. Tô sem câmera 😫
@@ArtVideoProductions e eu comprei a Sony A7 IV, paguei 18 de Novembro, e só chegou agora (ontem). Complicado né
Are you sure that the ML60bi has half the brightness of the ML60? It definitely has lower brightness, but according to the specifications on the Godox website, it's 7470 lux (ML60bi) vs. 8590 lux (ML60) at 1 meter with a color temperature of 5600K, which is approx. 14% difference.
This review is about the Ml30 only. Maybe you got confused a bit since I had a ML60 to this review.
What I said was, the Ml30 should be about half of the brightness of the ML60. Noting mentioned about a ML60Bi.
@@ArtVideoProductions Oh, then I'm very sorry, my fault. Thanks for clarification.
Hi, what do u think about this lights today? Have you managed to compare them with the Amaran 60x?
When it comes to Aputure lights, what they make best are the high end lights. The Amaran is a budget series from them as you know. I haven’t had the chance to compare the two in hands but what I can tell you for sure is that the Godox ML 30 and 60, the fans are whisper quiet, made of Metal and the colors are extremely accurate. Usually required for what I do, I have to bring mostly 600 and 1200 watt lights on most sets and I rarely use those little lights. But for small rooms, the ML series is a good choice.
@@ArtVideoProductions yeah I know... I saw many videos about the ML60 and 30 and, it is a good option. But, in pace of be a inicial light for a future bigger set-up, I think that the amaran it's a cheaper entrance for light world and already comes with Bowens mount. I pretend to use on weddings. And I sincerely appreciate your vídeo and response. Thanks!!
Are they the exact same size as the ml60's? In what situation would you want one of these rather than the 60's? Thanks for the review.
Same size as I showed, only shorter. Also the ML60 doesn’t work with the App. Only the 30.
And for fun, besides only doing filmmaking with it, I actually mounted the ML30 on top, as a camera light for a Bar Mitzvah video. Works out pretty good! This thing is light! Micro V mount Battery was attached to the tripod. One of the best on camera lights I’ve ever used.
Btw, my name is also Luis 👊
@@ArtVideoProductions 👊
What is the battery run time using Np 970?
You divide the watts from the light with the watt hour on each Sony battery.
Ml30 (30 watts) divided by the battery watt hour. Usually each Sony has 48 watt hour.
Which one do you recommend the 30 or 60 for in house use for short UA-cam video.
If the main light you’re using is placed more than 3 meters away and also if you’re shooting at low ISO, get the 60.
What cable are you using to go from d tap to the light? I've been looking for one.
I Just added the link in the description for you.
@@ArtVideoProductions thank you so much. Have you ran run time testing on your battery. I have the knock off batteries you use, and then open the input flap and connect battery banks to them. That gives way longer run times.
@@macedoniamissionarymediade1962 batteries are ran by Watt-Hour. So, attracting 2 Sony NPF 970 = 98 watt hour usually.
100w / by 60 watts (ML30) at 100%
= 1 hour 30 minutes approx.
Which fresnel adapter do you recommend for these lights ?
For a light this small, none. It would defeat the purpose of the small portability. Plus, a fresnel would add more weight than what’s designed for
@@ArtVideoProductions I was thinking more about using the S2 bowens adapter with it, which will actually manage and balance the weight. A fresnel (such as the Aputure X2) would be interesting for this small light to enhance its capability, particularly for weddings and portraits.
@@lux4us to what you want to do, I think you have the wrong light. You probably want the Godox S60. You will NOT need the projection accessories. The light itself will work for you. ua-cam.com/video/83GBhIwUgHk/v-deo.html
You are a fucking god.
Wow. Thanks man lol
Valeu!
Thanks for the detailed video. But it's way too long-winded. Not sure if many will sit through it all. :)
It's a pity that you spent too much time on some of the topics. For example, the part on fan noise..... it was way too long.
It's a pity also you had both the ML30 and ML60 but you did not show the differences in the light power. I think that's what people would be interested to decide whether ML30 or ML60 is more suitable for their needs.
Just my honest comments. :)
Hi Adrian, and thanks for watching abs for your feedback. Every video I make, I look at my analytics. I wish I could attach a screen shot of the “audience retention” which is pretty impressive. Yes, most people watch it and without fast forwarding. That’s why I continue to do it this way. There’s a channel called “gaffer and gear” (I’m sure you know it). Many reviews are as long as 50 minutes.
The power difference between the ML30 and 60 is exactly that. 50%. You’ll need to bring the ML30 half closer to a wall to get the same exposure.
Fan noise: this is a topic that people really want to get as much info and demo as possible (again, the positive analytics). If there was a dip on it, I would have stopped doing or try another approach. But to be honest, for the fan part, I’ll try shortening things.
Thanks again for your feedback.
what language is that?
Potuguinglish