I would love to see more control over the depth and blend of the modulation, and tone control for the delay and reverb. Also, I'd love to see separate delay and reverb. I'm guessing this is a limitation of the DSP and would drive up the cost. All-in-all, it's seems like good band for your buck. I can't wait to play one.
Can you tell us why there are only two effects available on tone room for the VX50 gtv and the cambridge 50 amps? Sure I can use the Vox Jam 3 software, but that is so much more involved than toneroom is, and it's very hit and miss. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The VX20 & 40 series all have multiple presets and effects available and this was one of the reasons I opted to buy my 50 watt amp, as it also stated it was compatible with Tone Room. Very disappointed when I connected it up to see that it was just the amp/cabinet and 2 effects.
Nice. But why is the range of functions in the tone room for the cambridge 50 so limited in contrast to the VTx series? I I miss e.g. a compressor, which in turn is available for the VTx.... Also there is no update of the app AMD Software since 2019!
Which Vox amp between the VT20x and the Cambridge has the best AC30 model? Does the celestion give a better sound matched with the Nutube? I like the stripped back 'analogue' ways of the Cambridge rather than delving deep into effect patch settings. If I want this I used my multi effects processor. Any thoughts?
I really wish this let you load on other amps like the Adio used to. The amp selection is pretty Vanilla, outside of the SLO there's not a lot that's not the same few sounds we always get on these amps. Really miss the Rockerverb model that's on all the other modelers. Also kinda sad that Vox doesn't model any of it's own amps outside the AC30 >.< A superbeatle or Night Train model would be interesting.
So do you have to turn the amp on BEFORE or AFTER connecting it to a computer? I should have written that in all caps, we need basic info first! For example with my other Vox amp (and probably same with this) they say it's very important to plug the footswitch in before turning the amp on or it could cause damage. Is that true for the USB, or not? Vox site where i got the tone room isn't any help. Even the Cambridge user manual doesn't say anything as far as i can tell! That's why i came here.... Otherwise, thanks for making the video.
Hey Man, Great demo! BUT, did you show us how to place the tones in the 8 foot switch memory positions? I am still mystified by my Cambridge 50's memory and it's reluctance to re-program the sounds! Please contact me to help! Thanks!
To save tones to your foot switch you hold the preset button on the amp until it starts flashing then hold the foot switch button that you want to save to.
I had the same issue. I found the Toneroom help helpful. Basically, to overwrite the prograames (A1-B4) you set the room up how you want (amp, levels, etc); name it by typing new name above the room then pressing enter; go to the 3 lines top right, enter 'write current programme' - select the programme you want to write over (A1, A2, B1 etc) ; click OK. To write this to the amp, you need to use the program button on the amp itself. Click the button to select user A or B. Press button for 1/2 second till it flashes; release; press button for more than 2 seconds until it stops flashing. You should then be able to use the footpedal to select that set of tones. It's more complicated than it needs to be, and I might have got it wrong, but I think that's it.
@@mka70 Thanks for the reply. I ended up coming into a 100W Fender Mustang GT100 for a price I couldn't miss. It sounds great, and the app isn't as slick, but it has good effects and is easy to use.
@@cspellman8547 That's great! I haven't really had a chance to play with the Vox yet, so I'm not saying anything negative about the amp....I'm sure it will be good for what I need. It's just the tone room software I have the issue with. It clearly states on the blurb that you can use Tone Room, but doesn't mention it's limited in comparison to the 20 & 40 watt amps, it's just quite misleading. 2 effects....REALLY???
@@mka70 That is a bit odd, isn't it? It seems the Vox tone software would not have such constraints, no matter the model. I have to admit, even liking my GT40, I do love the Vox sound!
@@cspellman8547 I got an email reply from Vox. Also, I found a facebook group that you might find useful :) Reply from Vox: "Thank you for your enquiry. Not only the effects but also the amp modelling in the VX50 GTV is quite different from those in the Valvetronix amplifiers. The VX50 is designed from the ground up to be very simple to use which means it offers fewer options in terms of effects and parameters to choose from. I personally don't feel this detracts anything from the product and I much prefer the newer VET modelling technology coupled with the Nutube in the VX50 GTV. While Tone Room is constantly being developed and improved, it is very unlikely that the number of effects available for the VX50 GTV will chance since this would require a modification to the amplifier's hardware. Similarly, the only presets available for it are the ones already loaded on the amplifier as it comes out of the box". Not really much help at all! Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/1761678330738587/?notif_id=1594591369833327¬if_t=group_r2j_approved
Would you say this is better that the vtx series vox put out? Both use the tone room software. I can get a vox vt100x 30 bucks cheaper than the Cambridge . Don't know which to go for
Hi, David. I personally would find an older used vt120+. It is 150 watts into 2x12 cab combo that can power attenuate down to 1 watt for bedroom use. 99 amps/settings, I think 22 built in effects, so you don't have to download software and hope Vox keeps supporting it. If you can't find any model from the previous series, I would take the vt100x over the cambridge50. The vt100x has a 1x12 and an actual 12ax7, the cambridge50 is only 50 watts, has a 1x12 but instead of a tried and true preamp tube, Korg has installed a nutube in it, these are expensive and could be obsolete in 5 years. Hope I helped out! Cheers.
@@ragnadrabinowitz7629 not meaning to be argumentative but it actually makes a lot of sense to rely on self contained effects that aren't reliant on external support, and to use technology that is being used by everyone, instead of proprietary technology (like NuTube) that is only used by Korg. Cheers.
To me the tone of the Cambridge is better, particularly in VOX AC30 mode. I don't know if the speaker is better, or what, but to me it sounds surprisingly good. I doubt the nutube will become obsolete any time soon (famous last words), but they've been around a while, they should last ages, certainly far far longer than standard valves, and KORG is a big company.
Hi there, just bought this Cambridge amp and found that my Classic Vibes Telecaster induces a ton of unwanted background noise whenever I crank up the gain - unsurprisingly... So here's the million dollar question: If the Noise Reduction feature is is only available within the ToneRoom environment (my assumption so far...), then I am limited to no more than 2 saved "programs" where said Noise Reduction can be engaged "outside of the ToneRoom" (i.e. once the amplifier is not plugged to a computer running ToneRoom), correct? Otherwise, I'd have to shell out the additional 200 bucks for a good quality MXR Noise Gate pedal to use along with my Vox Cambridge, correct? I wish the Noise Reduction could be saved for all the various amp models! Anyways, please let me know if there is any mistake in my assumptions above... Thanks.
You can save 8 sets of tones/tone rooms, all with NR set how you want, then use footswitch available separately (VFS5 i think it is - about £60) to select any of them. I have the 2 button footswitch (£30), so can only select 2 NR enabled channels without the computer, but that's enough for me - I get confused on stage with too many options!
My Cambridge50 has no Bluetooth signal. Tone room works fine on PC. But I don’t want to mess with my PC to scoop the mids. I’ve tried 3 iPhones: 8plus, 10 and a 12. None of them worked. The app is god awful looking on both pc and phone. Thanks for convincing me to get a Yamaha THR.
My son is a year old. I love modeling technology, but since it is improving year over year and this software won't be supported in 20 years, I am intentionally buying nothing but analog amps and pedals. He has a P90 loaded LPJ and a telecaster. I am not a high gain guy, but I want to provide quality, versatile equipment for him. He has a 100 watt 3 channel mesa boogie dual rectifier, a boutique 50 watt 2 channel amp that has the clean channel of a badcat coolcat and the gain channel of a Dumble ODS / Marshall JTM45, and a Vox AC15 with upgraded speaker. I also upgraded the LP with an Emerson wiring harness and a Kinsman noiseless pickup, but the tele is stock. He has about 50 pedals that span the 60s, 70s, 80s, 2000s and today. I still have to buy 3 things. 1) pedal boards, 2) isolating power supplies and 3) switching systems. It's impossible to know exactly what to get, as I can't see the future, what is going to be the next Klon and what is going to be completely obsolete?
Dude, you guys are very lucky to have all that gear now. Crappy sounds and tone will always end up obsolete whilst great tone will be cherished and stay with us, whether digital or analogue, I doubt you or your kid will have a shortage of great tone either way
@Rory H Honestly, I can see why you would say that, however, I lived my dreams (without any help or support from my father) and since I see my son taking an interest in music I am supportive of that, just as I will be with any of his other interests. I'm not trying to live vicariously through him, but set him up to be able to succeed. Cheers.
Good sounding modeler, I always have thought Vox has some of the best modelers on the market - I have owned a few.
I would love to see more control over the depth and blend of the modulation, and tone control for the delay and reverb. Also, I'd love to see separate delay and reverb. I'm guessing this is a limitation of the DSP and would drive up the cost. All-in-all, it's seems like good band for your buck. I can't wait to play one.
Can you tell us why there are only two effects available on tone room for the VX50 gtv and the cambridge 50 amps? Sure I can use the Vox Jam 3 software, but that is so much more involved than toneroom is, and it's very hit and miss. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The VX20 & 40 series all have multiple presets and effects available and this was one of the reasons I opted to buy my 50 watt amp, as it also stated it was compatible with Tone Room. Very disappointed when I connected it up to see that it was just the amp/cabinet and 2 effects.
You need to buy the 5 button footswitch - weighs 10 pounds and costs $80!
Well spent time. Great demo and clear thinking.
Nice. But why is the range of functions in the tone room for the cambridge 50 so limited in contrast to the VTx series? I I miss e.g. a compressor, which in turn is available for the VTx....
Also there is no update of the app AMD Software since 2019!
Which Vox amp between the VT20x and the Cambridge has the best AC30 model? Does the celestion give a better sound matched with the Nutube? I like the stripped back 'analogue' ways of the Cambridge rather than delving deep into effect patch settings. If I want this I used my multi effects processor. Any thoughts?
I really wish this let you load on other amps like the Adio used to. The amp selection is pretty Vanilla, outside of the SLO there's not a lot that's not the same few sounds we always get on these amps. Really miss the Rockerverb model that's on all the other modelers.
Also kinda sad that Vox doesn't model any of it's own amps outside the AC30 >.<
A superbeatle or Night Train model would be interesting.
So do you have to turn the amp on BEFORE or AFTER connecting it to a computer? I should have written that in all caps, we need basic info first! For example with my other Vox amp (and probably same with this) they say it's very important to plug the footswitch in before turning the amp on or it could cause damage. Is that true for the USB, or not? Vox site where i got the tone room isn't any help. Even the Cambridge user manual doesn't say anything as far as i can tell! That's why i came here....
Otherwise, thanks for making the video.
Do you need an interface or do you just plug straight from amp to the laptop with the usb?
You can use the USB connection as an audio interface! Very easy to get right to recording with the Cambridge50
Soldano with chorus sounds like Van Hagar! Add some reverb or delay
Sounds great
That sounds very good. I should get my hands on one and do a series on my channel.
Hi how do you know which pre-set is which when you save and unplug? there are only 3 lights
Hey Man, Great demo! BUT, did you show us how to place the tones in the 8 foot switch memory positions? I am still mystified by my Cambridge 50's memory and it's reluctance to re-program the sounds! Please contact me to help! Thanks!
To save tones to your foot switch you hold the preset button on the amp until it starts flashing then hold the foot switch button that you want to save to.
I had the same issue. I found the Toneroom help helpful. Basically, to overwrite the prograames (A1-B4) you set the room up how you want (amp, levels, etc); name it by typing new name above the room then pressing enter; go to the 3 lines top right, enter 'write current programme' - select the programme you want to write over (A1, A2, B1 etc) ; click OK. To write this to the amp, you need to use the program button on the amp itself. Click the button to select user A or B. Press button for 1/2 second till it flashes; release; press button for more than 2 seconds until it stops flashing. You should then be able to use the footpedal to select that set of tones. It's more complicated than it needs to be, and I might have got it wrong, but I think that's it.
How many effects can be added simultaneously in Tone Room for this model? Is it only three, like on the amp itself?
It appears so. Yet on the 20/40 watt options, there's tonnes. You can use Jam Vox 3.....if you can figure it all out!
@@mka70 Thanks for the reply. I ended up coming into a 100W Fender Mustang GT100 for a price I couldn't miss. It sounds great, and the app isn't as slick, but it has good effects and is easy to use.
@@cspellman8547 That's great!
I haven't really had a chance to play with the Vox yet, so I'm not saying anything negative about the amp....I'm sure it will be good for what I need. It's just the tone room software I have the issue with. It clearly states on the blurb that you can use Tone Room, but doesn't mention it's limited in comparison to the 20 & 40 watt amps, it's just quite misleading. 2 effects....REALLY???
@@mka70 That is a bit odd, isn't it? It seems the Vox tone software would not have such constraints, no matter the model.
I have to admit, even liking my GT40, I do love the Vox sound!
@@cspellman8547 I got an email reply from Vox. Also, I found a facebook group that you might find useful :)
Reply from Vox: "Thank you for your enquiry.
Not only the effects but also the amp modelling in the VX50 GTV is quite different from those in the Valvetronix amplifiers. The VX50 is designed from the ground up to be very simple to use which means it offers fewer options in terms of effects and parameters to choose from. I personally don't feel this detracts anything from the product and I much prefer the newer VET modelling technology coupled with the Nutube in the VX50 GTV.
While Tone Room is constantly being developed and improved, it is very unlikely that the number of effects available for the VX50 GTV will chance since this would require a modification to the amplifier's hardware. Similarly, the only presets available for it are the ones already loaded on the amplifier as it comes out of the box".
Not really much help at all!
Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/1761678330738587/?notif_id=1594591369833327¬if_t=group_r2j_approved
Would you say this is better that the vtx series vox put out? Both use the tone room software. I can get a vox vt100x 30 bucks cheaper than the Cambridge . Don't know which to go for
Hi, David.
I personally would find an older used vt120+. It is 150 watts into 2x12 cab combo that can power attenuate down to 1 watt for bedroom use. 99 amps/settings, I think 22 built in effects, so you don't have to download software and hope Vox keeps supporting it. If you can't find any model from the previous series, I would take the vt100x over the cambridge50. The vt100x has a 1x12 and an actual 12ax7, the cambridge50 is only 50 watts, has a 1x12 but instead of a tried and true preamp tube, Korg has installed a nutube in it, these are expensive and could be obsolete in 5 years. Hope I helped out! Cheers.
kosmicwizard the Nutube tech has been used in a number of proven products, things do go obsolete, but recommending an even older model makes no sense.
@@ragnadrabinowitz7629 not meaning to be argumentative but it actually makes a lot of sense to rely on self contained effects that aren't reliant on external support, and to use technology that is being used by everyone, instead of proprietary technology (like NuTube) that is only used by Korg. Cheers.
kosmicwizard oh ok! I guess I misunderstood what you had written.
To me the tone of the Cambridge is better, particularly in VOX AC30 mode. I don't know if the speaker is better, or what, but to me it sounds surprisingly good. I doubt the nutube will become obsolete any time soon (famous last words), but they've been around a while, they should last ages, certainly far far longer than standard valves, and KORG is a big company.
Hi there, just bought this Cambridge amp and found that my Classic Vibes Telecaster induces a ton of unwanted background noise whenever I crank up the gain - unsurprisingly... So here's the million dollar question: If the Noise Reduction feature is is only available within the ToneRoom environment (my assumption so far...), then I am limited to no more than 2 saved "programs" where said Noise Reduction can be engaged "outside of the ToneRoom" (i.e. once the amplifier is not plugged to a computer running ToneRoom), correct? Otherwise, I'd have to shell out the additional 200 bucks for a good quality MXR Noise Gate pedal to use along with my Vox Cambridge, correct? I wish the Noise Reduction could be saved for all the various amp models! Anyways, please let me know if there is any mistake in my assumptions above... Thanks.
You can get a foot switch(I believe it's something like $60-$80) that allows you to save 8 presets.
You can save 8 sets of tones/tone rooms, all with NR set how you want, then use footswitch available separately (VFS5 i think it is - about £60) to select any of them. I have the 2 button footswitch (£30), so can only select 2 NR enabled channels without the computer, but that's enough for me - I get confused on stage with too many options!
My Cambridge50 has no Bluetooth signal.
Tone room works fine on PC. But I don’t want to mess with my PC to scoop the mids.
I’ve tried 3 iPhones: 8plus, 10 and a 12.
None of them worked.
The app is god awful looking on both pc and phone. Thanks for convincing me to get a Yamaha THR.
What brand guitar is that?
My son is a year old. I love modeling technology, but since it is improving year over year and this software won't be supported in 20 years, I am intentionally buying nothing but analog amps and pedals. He has a P90 loaded LPJ and a telecaster. I am not a high gain guy, but I want to provide quality, versatile equipment for him. He has a 100 watt 3 channel mesa boogie dual rectifier, a boutique 50 watt 2 channel amp that has the clean channel of a badcat coolcat and the gain channel of a Dumble ODS / Marshall JTM45, and a Vox AC15 with upgraded speaker. I also upgraded the LP with an Emerson wiring harness and a Kinsman noiseless pickup, but the tele is stock. He has about 50 pedals that span the 60s, 70s, 80s, 2000s and today. I still have to buy 3 things. 1) pedal boards, 2) isolating power supplies and 3) switching systems. It's impossible to know exactly what to get, as I can't see the future, what is going to be the next Klon and what is going to be completely obsolete?
I'm sure your son will grow up to be an excellent bassist
File under: "Who gives a shit, when your diatribe has nothing to do with the Vox Cambridge 50 and Tone Room?"
Dude, you guys are very lucky to have all that gear now. Crappy sounds and tone will always end up obsolete whilst great tone will be cherished and stay with us, whether digital or analogue, I doubt you or your kid will have a shortage of great tone either way
@Rory H Honestly, I can see why you would say that, however, I lived my dreams (without any help or support from my father) and since I see my son taking an interest in music I am supportive of that, just as I will be with any of his other interests. I'm not trying to live vicariously through him, but set him up to be able to succeed. Cheers.
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