How Oingo Boingo Killed AI Music

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  • Опубліковано 16 жов 2023
  • Live music is so much more than singing and playing. The art of performing for an audience is such a crucial part of the equation. Today, marketing and technology CEO Ali Fathali will dive into a legendary concert that shows off exactly how performance can enhance the live music experience, without the use of AI or computer assistance.
    The year was 1985. The band? Oingo Boingo. Venue? The Ritz. Danny Elfman and company put together a performance that’s equally as captivating and enjoyable now as it was almost 40 years ago.
    This is the Art of Performance.
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  • @geemac7267
    @geemac7267 7 місяців тому +288

    Bands used to spend A LONG time honing their skills and songs in front of audiences. Danny Elfman is as close to a musical genius as you can get.

    • @tomcanham9218
      @tomcanham9218 5 місяців тому +10

      Where is the "like times a million" button to agree with this statement? People know Dead Man's Party, or maybe the Simpsons theme, but they don't know that this self-made man basically wrote every hit song like... ever. And he's deep, tortured, and complicated. He's the whole package. Don't fuck with Danny Elfman. He's like Aphex Twin, Roky Erikson, and the remaining crew of ACTUAL musical geniuses (unlike people like, say, me, who just CALL themselves musical geniuses)... when you see them stretch their wings, musically, it's... Prometheus unbound. It's like getting to watch a god stretch his legs. It's... intoxicating. Bruce Hornsby is another one. Any of these -- I abjure you to watch/listen/think about their music. It truly deserves the epithet "next level."

    • @TommyWashow
      @TommyWashow 4 місяці тому +3

      theres few people on that level of quality output. Danny, Frank Zappa, Devin townsend, Mike patton, bjork and while I dont like him people put prince in the category often

    • @JoshButterballs
      @JoshButterballs 4 місяці тому

      Eddie, are you kidding?

    • @penis2
      @penis2 3 місяці тому

      do not tell this man about martini glass

    • @sandygrungerson1177
      @sandygrungerson1177 2 місяці тому +2

      also the 80s had the best cocaine

  • @mathninja3879
    @mathninja3879 6 місяців тому +154

    Just so you know, 'Oingo Boingo former members' Just played last week in Anaheim California. Everyone is still in the band except Danny Elfman. They still sound this good. We in California are waiting for the day Danny decides to do a show with the rest of the band members again.

    • @jbloodwo
      @jbloodwo 2 місяці тому +3

      The closest we get is the nightmare before Christmas shows. Some of the members drop in for the three songs encore

    • @DissertatingMedieval
      @DissertatingMedieval Місяць тому +3

      My understanding is that he's concerned about hearing loss and he can do better as a composer.

    • @suzybearheart530
      @suzybearheart530 Місяць тому +3

      Oingo Boingo Dance Party!! Yes, they are fantastic and managed to find a singer who sounds a lot like Elfman!

    • @bobyost42
      @bobyost42 5 днів тому

      I saw Boingo 33x back then!! And they were epic EVERY TIME!! I would give anything to see them just one more time!!
      BEST LIVE BAND EVER!!

  • @titanicf0g
    @titanicf0g 6 місяців тому +38

    The bass player is John Avila! And this is an edited recording. The video on UA-cam is about 30 minutes, cut down from a show probably an hour and a half or two hours in length.

  • @carmillachoate
    @carmillachoate 7 місяців тому +153

    Danny Elfman was an absolute BEAST of a vocalist. The whole band was on point through their whole career. If you really want a great concert of theirs check out their final show, Farewell from 1995

    • @suzybearheart530
      @suzybearheart530 Місяць тому +2

      That was my first concert! I was 14 and saved all my babysitting money for a ticket. I was so scared my strict Mormon parents wouldn’t let me go, but they knew how much Boingo meant to me, and my big brother offered to take me and make sure I got to the show and home safe. I feel so lucky I got to go!

    • @carmillachoate
      @carmillachoate Місяць тому +1

      @@suzybearheart530 That's awesome! I'm super jealous. I didn't discover their music until like 2001

    • @suzybearheart530
      @suzybearheart530 Місяць тому +1

      @@carmillachoate Better late than never! If you ever get a chance, go see Oingo Boingo Dance Party. It's most of the original band and a singer who sounds a lot like Elfman. I've seen them 3 times and it's always a blast.

    • @carmillachoate
      @carmillachoate Місяць тому +1

      @@suzybearheart530 That's awesome!

  • @victorslab
    @victorslab 6 місяців тому +24

    Oingo Boingo Former Members are still preforming. Even 35 years later, they still have it!

  • @zackpumpkinhead8882
    @zackpumpkinhead8882 6 місяців тому +23

    Clickbait title;
    Don't even care. This band is BRILLIANT.

    • @cp2676
      @cp2676 2 місяці тому +1

      This is the happiest I've been to be clickbaited

    • @johnmchugh8049
      @johnmchugh8049 Місяць тому

      Agreed

  • @FrontmanVideo
    @FrontmanVideo 6 місяців тому +36

    I saw Oingo Boingo a couple times about 35 years ago where I grew up in San Bernardino, California and I'll never forget how amazing they were. I've been to a lot of concerts and they were one of the only live bands I saw where it was IMPOSSIBLE to sit still. I've never danced at a concert like I did at their shows!

    • @chrismcdonald1932
      @chrismcdonald1932 4 місяці тому

      They are the only concert I've left where even my pants were completely drenched in sweat. I tell people to this day they are the best concert I have ever seen. One particular show in Salt Lake stands above all other for me. Smallsih venue on the fairgrounds. The energy was palpable. Wish I could have been at the farewell show.

    • @brentottoson6974
      @brentottoson6974 2 місяці тому

      Saw them at the Orange Pavilion with X. Sweat was not an option (not a pun.)

  • @stevenassmaster8294
    @stevenassmaster8294 6 місяців тому +37

    YESS MAN am so happy people are giving this concert more of the recognition it deserves, Oingo Boingo is one of my favorite bands and this is my favorite concert of all time. Truly there was and will never been anything close to it

  • @lohm8767
    @lohm8767 7 місяців тому +34

    This entire video is just "bands were better back in the day" and has zero to do with AI.

    • @TheNazzerDawk
      @TheNazzerDawk 7 місяців тому +3

      Absolutely. I wonder if Danny Elfman uses digital mastering and sampling, computer sequencing, etc. in his processes now?
      A lot of people see how some people did so much with so little and incorrectly assume something has been lost. No, new tools have made us gain greater ease. Yes, Oingo Boingo put a TON of work into their music, but now more bands can achieve a similar sound with less effort. I fail to see how this is a bad thing.

    • @KenLieck
      @KenLieck 6 місяців тому

      Well, the Mystic Knights of the Oingo Boingo used 21st century crowd-funding techniques to finance the sequel to their cult classic movie "The Forbidden Zone", so they're definitely not neo-luddites...

    • @Altern84m
      @Altern84m 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@TheNazzerDawk because it crowds the scene with garbage. If the only artists able to produce and share art are the ones who push through the huge barrier of entry we only get the art from someone who has worked tirelessly to hone their skill, their voice and make something worth all that effort. I got no dog in this fight, i love the low barrier and have taken advantage of it plenty. But you only need to look at the Steam video game store and wade through the oceans of half assed video games to see the damage it does when you make it easy for anyone to achieve the facade of quality.

    • @Pixygon
      @Pixygon Місяць тому

      ​@@Altern84mYou make a fair point, but at the same time, the rise of information sharing to prominence has made it difficult to push a product that is no good (unless that is a selling point like with Sharknado) and the hardest workers still stand above the rest. One reason so much shovelware managed to survive during the advent of console gaming was that unless you were subscribed to a bunch of video game magazines, all you had to go off of was word of mouth from friends. I would say it balances out in a roundabout way.

    • @Altern84m
      @Altern84m Місяць тому +1

      @@PixygonYeah its definitely one of those things where the solution is built into the problem. It's an organism.

  • @opoct0bah
    @opoct0bah 7 місяців тому +18

    I FUCKIN LOOOOOVE OINGO BOINGOOOO

  • @johnluna9915
    @johnluna9915 7 місяців тому +28

    Danny Elfman,,,,pure genius, absolute animal composer, BOSS LEVEL STUFF

  • @magical_mooni
    @magical_mooni 6 місяців тому +22

    Dude I love that you took the time to appreciate and talk about Oingo Boingo. I agree on everything you’ve outlined. I recommend you deep dive more into the early years of the band and their later releases. I assure you that it will make you fall in love with the band every second you find more information about their history

  • @johnvatos346
    @johnvatos346 2 місяці тому +7

    Very Kind, Thank You!!!

    • @suzannepoulos807
      @suzannepoulos807 24 дні тому +1

      Hello Johnny! I had the privilege of attending your drum clinic c.1982. Your wild inventions, fluid transitions between rhythms, and metronomic accuracy blew us all away. Your style directly instructed my drumming. Speaking with you afterwards, you offered genuine generosity and kindness. You have my unending gratitude for that unforgettable day and later for inviting us backstage multiple times to spend time with the band. Thank you, Master Rhythmatist, for everything.

    • @bobyost42
      @bobyost42 5 днів тому

      @johnvatos346
      You are one of the main reasons I have been playing drums for the last 45 years!! Thank you for the inspiration. Thank you for all the music, and most of all, THANK YOU for keeping the legacy alive!! Never stop!

  • @calebclunie4001
    @calebclunie4001 7 місяців тому +18

    The Mystical Knights Of The Oingo Bingo, was what was known, as a street theatrical group.
    It was a big change, to make it a pop group, but that performance energy, never left.
    You put Jack Skellington (The Pumpkin King) on, right before Halloween. It's awesome, because this sounds like an organic experience, that happened to you.

  • @TheNazzerDawk
    @TheNazzerDawk 7 місяців тому +76

    Title: How Oingo Boingo killed AI music
    Video: Oingo Boingo did a lot without the use of modern tools.
    For my next video: "How the builders of the pyramids KILLED 3D printing!"

    • @xanksauri89
      @xanksauri89 2 місяці тому +4

      Exactly. This video is about nothing. Well, it's about him, liking this Oinbo Boingo live video. Good for him I guess.

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork Місяць тому +3

      And used A.I. art for the thumbnail

  • @russburton725
    @russburton725 5 місяців тому +15

    Lucky to say I saw Oingo Boingo more times than I can count! Best live band of the 80’s and early 90’s! 3.5-4 hr sets were not out of the norm for this band!

    • @jimmyhankins7487
      @jimmyhankins7487 5 місяців тому +2

      Can confirm. They almost never had an opening band. Amazing performances!
      Even now, as Oingo Boingo Former Members they still play for at least 90 minutes with an opener and longer without. (Also without Danny who’s doing his own thing but with a dynamic vocalist)

  • @delfin7461
    @delfin7461 7 місяців тому +66

    Having seen Oingo Boingo live 3 times, they put on an AMAZING show. They are all such quality musicians and Danny truly is a genius.
    oh and in-ear monitors DIDN'T exist in 1986!!! Musicans actually had to sing on key and be able to listen to all the other musicians
    Your breakdown is proof of why Oingo Boingo should have been MUCH bigger than they were. Great that you have gone back to look at their music, there are so many bangers to be heard!!!

    • @nuclearcatbaby1131
      @nuclearcatbaby1131 7 місяців тому +1

      And that’s why he almost went deaf.

    • @penis2
      @penis2 3 місяці тому

      @@nuclearcatbaby1131 that and the martini glass

    • @dresdenvisage
      @dresdenvisage 3 місяці тому

      ​@@penis2 shut up, you're contributing nothing

  • @kompy2k
    @kompy2k 7 місяців тому +11

    I bet Danny Elfman wishes he had had in-ear monitors/earplugs, dude had to retire from touring due to acute hearing loss

    • @fanni1652
      @fanni1652 Місяць тому

      Well, hes also 70+ so its not that surprising

    • @kompy2k
      @kompy2k Місяць тому +2

      @fanni1652 okay but he retired from touring due to acute hearing loss at age 32 tho

  • @lhair02
    @lhair02 6 місяців тому +13

    John Avila is a great bassist

  • @lilla8312
    @lilla8312 4 місяці тому +6

    im 17 and oingo boingo is literally my favorite band and it just made to so happy to hear you talk about them with so much appreciation, I'm glad this video came up on my feed :)

    • @simply_katastrophic
      @simply_katastrophic 24 дні тому +1

      Same age, same favorite band. Boingo fans are generational!

  • @WilliamsburgLegati
    @WilliamsburgLegati 7 місяців тому +9

    Saw the most incredible concert bill at Red Rocks outside Denver back in the day. It’s a bill you would never imagine today. Two warm up bands with Oingo Boingo as the headliner. Warm acts were Red Hot Chilli Peppers and The Call. Brilliant show with its like never to be seen again.

  • @GothicTaco
    @GothicTaco 6 місяців тому +4

    I saw this tour in 85. It was awesome. It was the only time I saw them live.

  • @mahatmarandy5977
    @mahatmarandy5977 5 місяців тому +3

    Boingo put out 8 albums in the 80s (technically one of them is a Danny Elfman Solo Album, but it’s really a stealth Oingo Boingo album since the whole band is on it. It was recorded in between record labels, so they couldn’t really freely use their name for negotiation reasons, but they weren’t foolin’ anybody) they were amazing. Regarding the timing in the sings speeding up, in 1988 they released a studio-live double album that is awesome, and showed how their songs had evolved over 8 years of playing them live..
    As a consequence of all that music, all that touring, and so on, Danny lost 75% of his hearing. That’s part of why they broke up: he needed to save his ears for his film score work.
    Also, if you get a chance, hunt around on youtube for some sets by “the mystic knights of the oingo boingo,” which is the original iteration of the bad from 1973-1978, which was a sort of avante garde musical cabaret act that just did weird, weird, weird, wonderful things. Danny was the lead singer (and occasional fire-eater, yes, he was a fire eater) for the band during that phase, too.

  • @sarahbreisch4750
    @sarahbreisch4750 21 годину тому

    Ive watched that Ritz concert more times than i can count, it's mesmerizing. I wish i could have been there ... happy to have been at several they might be giants concerts over the years. Their tight tight everything, manic unfathomable energy and exuberant horn section feels like a less malevolent version of Oingo Boingo.

  • @professionalpainthuffer
    @professionalpainthuffer 3 місяці тому +2

    How tf you guys only have 95 subs? This is a kickass video, may the algorithm gods bless you. I've also become possessed by that Ritz set . . . Danny Elfman is once in a generation.

  • @user-lv3td7no6i
    @user-lv3td7no6i 5 місяців тому +7

    If you never saw Oingo Boingo live you have no idea what you missed. They were the tightest band I've ever seen live.
    And they would go on for 2 and a half hours at this level. Truly amazing to see.

  • @lisamarie_1987
    @lisamarie_1987 2 дні тому

    saw them every year or more in the 80s. went to their farewell concert. they were HUGE in so cal. oddly, not so much even in no cal. i went to berkeley and people would be like "i know oingo boingo. dead man's party." and you just knew they didn't really know. OB were so connected to the audience. when danny elfman did nightmare before christmas at the hollywood bowl, we were going and i told my boyfriend they'd play an OB song and he didn't believe me. and sure enough, opened with dead man's party. worse sounding dead man's party but i didn't care. love them so much. a friend who worked at Sam Goody's told us that they'd have to pretend to have preorders for OB because corporate ordered and distributed evenly to all stores (mind boggling to me as i once worked in DVD allocating initial shipments for studios and that's a great way to waste money).

  • @Bowiepainter
    @Bowiepainter 6 місяців тому +3

    Danny Elfman kills it. And he has absolutely no professional training. It’s all pure talent. Nothing compares to Boingo when it comes to energy level.

  • @gilsquared
    @gilsquared 12 днів тому +1

    To be clear: The Keytar, played by the Bass player John Avila IS the bass of the song.

  • @athanatic
    @athanatic 17 днів тому +2

    Watch Danny from Coachella 2023! It is still up!

    • @aaronspaulding3032
      @aaronspaulding3032 8 днів тому

      Where? I watched the original live stream but was never able to find a replay…

  • @eDartsNet
    @eDartsNet 6 місяців тому +1

    I can watch this again and again. Been one of my favorites for years!

  • @gregrisley1050
    @gregrisley1050 5 місяців тому +2

    I saw Oingo Boingo several times and they never phoned it in. You left the show thinking you just saw the best performance they could ever give. The show at Red Rocks Amphitheater, CO in 1990 with the Red Hot Chili Peppers as the opener, was amazing.

  • @antifolkhero
    @antifolkhero Місяць тому +3

    This is a great live performance. The video has nothing to do with AI. And it wouldn't have killed you to look up the musicians' names. But otherwise I agree with your breakdown of what an incredible performance this was.

  • @DissertatingMedieval
    @DissertatingMedieval Місяць тому

    Oingo Boingo got their start as an avant-garde performance troupe with a performance that took a lot of its cues from Cab Calloway and other swing groups, then segued into New Wave in the late 70's. So they were always a live performance band.

  • @joinkusbelinkiusthethird
    @joinkusbelinkiusthethird Місяць тому

    I saw Death Grips play live last year. Basically all it was was colored lights, a drum set, a mic, a guitar and a keyboard. All the vocals were amazing, and the instrumentalists killed it. I think they are definitely one of the best modern bands for live performances, amazing.

  • @johnspooner1403
    @johnspooner1403 7 місяців тому +4

    First of all, he’s Danny Elfman! So that. Second, a quality onstage monitor setup and monitor mixer are non-negotiable, iwoth n-ears or monitor speakers.

  • @OMG_No_Way
    @OMG_No_Way 2 місяці тому +1

    LOVE Oingo Boingo. I’ve seen them 17 times in concert. (Years ago, obviously. During my high school times) I was even have Elvis (the little skull guy w/the cowboy hat & smoke) tattooed on my calf. Massive fan. Obviously I haven’t seen them in concert since their farewell concert in ‘95. But I just bought tickets to Oingo Boingo Former Members. (It’s everyone but Danny) Can’t wait to see them play in Montclair, CA in May. It’ll being back so many memories.
    BTW. Danny says the reason he doesn’t do live concerts anymore and that there will never be a reunion tour is because he’s deaf from not wearing any ear monitors on stage all those years ago. And he refuses to wear them today. So sadly no concerts.

    • @gregphillips8468
      @gregphillips8468 11 днів тому

      LOL! Elvis tattoo - check! Saw them in Montclair on Friday - Check! Many great memories came flooding back - CHECK!

  • @_simurgh
    @_simurgh 4 місяці тому +1

    I've never been a groupie of musicians for reasons of principle. But when I saw the concert at the Ritz, I was mesmerised. That's when I started to have a crush on him. Such confidence, such energy.
    Nothing is empty with Oingo Boingo. Every note has its place thanks to the talented musicians

  • @pimenteldavid84
    @pimenteldavid84 20 днів тому

    8:33 what you hear is _talent_ .
    What modern musical performers lack is _talent_ .
    They can't sing in tune, they can't conspire with a live band, they can't move even while they _pretend to sing_ .
    Oingo Boingo was peak what live music was meant to be.

  • @camillasoares8698
    @camillasoares8698 Місяць тому

    Danny is a genius. That is why he entered film industry....besides all that....his teatrical moves are just awesome!!!!!😊😊😊😊

  • @carymoshman1180
    @carymoshman1180 2 місяці тому

    I saw them live in 1990. Most amazing show ever.

  • @mosstheboss404
    @mosstheboss404 4 місяці тому +1

    john avila goes crazy

  • @lesliehegde4219
    @lesliehegde4219 2 місяці тому

    Most underrated group ever. They were so awesome.

  • @jenih6664
    @jenih6664 2 місяці тому

    They kept us coming back time after time with their amazing musicianship and well, you know the rest. I will cherish all those shows especially Halloween at Irvine Meadows forever. Love these guys.

  • @hobossuck2
    @hobossuck2 4 місяці тому +1

    I think only dale Turner the trumpet/trombone player really did the backing vocals in the horn section. Though the big guy Sam talksang on a handful of songs.

  • @KenLieck
    @KenLieck 6 місяців тому +1

    My first internet post ever was about having gone to see Oingo Boingo in 1996 or so. It was a great show, and after the gig I ran into some radio station DJs I knew and they (and I) ended up taking Danny around town looking for a good keg party.
    Unfortunately, every time we got to one the keg would have just floated and everybody was leaving. After three or four failures we gave up, and the last thing I remember was a tired, bored Danny Elfman lying down on this bemused college girl's driveway and letting several big dogs lick his face.
    (When the girl asked who the guy was that was getting doggie-molested in her front yard, and we told her, she said "Wow! I've never heard of Oingo Boingo, but just the fact that you're driving this guy around trying to keep him entertained says to me that he's famous enough that this is really cool!")

  • @peeweesprincess89
    @peeweesprincess89 3 місяці тому +3

    woah, young Danny Elfman is a HOTTIE!

    • @MongoHongos
      @MongoHongos 3 місяці тому +1

      Now he looks like a scary grandma that eats kids.

    • @candy_shark
      @candy_shark 2 місяці тому +1

      fr

  • @Sarah_D.
    @Sarah_D. 4 місяці тому +2

    I was fortunate enough to see Danny Elfman perform live last year. Not Oingo Boingo related though. It was a celebration of all the film scores he's done with Tim Burton, with the music performed by a local orchestra. Most of the songs were purely instrumental, of course. But, he performed *ALL* of the vocals for the songs from "Nightmare Before Christmas." Talk about perfect pitch and presence! I don't think I've ever seen anyone just OWN a stage the way he did. I was so surprised. I knew he was quite the performer back in his Oingo Boingo days, but that was about 40 years ago. But, he's still got it 100%. Towards the end of the show, he said he was leaving composing for awhile so he can get back into performing rock. I have no doubt he'll be just as awesome as he was back in the 80s.

    • @nuclearcatbaby1131
      @nuclearcatbaby1131 4 місяці тому +1

      I saw his rock show twice, last August and October of 2022.

  • @markharc7615
    @markharc7615 4 місяці тому

    Nobody used in-ear monitors back then. Boingo was my first concert and still one of the best all these years later.

  • @geofffitz1497
    @geofffitz1497 6 місяців тому +1

    "The guy...". THE GUY?!?! A goddam genius and you call him "the guy." Good lord man. One of the top 3 live acts of all time. Welcome to the rabbit hole man.

  • @slipknot3464
    @slipknot3464 7 місяців тому +3

    ah so thts how they killed ai

  • @pete7164
    @pete7164 2 місяці тому +1

    I live when people are blown away when rock musicians put on a show with theatrics and tight musicianship as if opera is something that hasn't existed for 400 years. I mean, you want to talk about "totally analogue"..

  • @denizunveren4979
    @denizunveren4979 Місяць тому

    This is a really great commentary video. Love Oingo Boingo

  • @slimtimm1
    @slimtimm1 Місяць тому +1

    OB played to midi backing tracks constantly and possibly backing vocals on tape
    Still genius though

  • @andrewcaveman3026
    @andrewcaveman3026 4 місяці тому

    I saw them on Earth Day at CMU La cross field in 1990. At the time, it was the best moments of my life. I got to meet the band after the show and drank an MGD with John Avila and Leon.

  • @noisepuppet
    @noisepuppet 2 місяці тому

    Danny's one of those rare guys who can do pretty much everything at a very high level, like Brian Setzer. Composer, lyricist, vocalist, instrumentalist, band leader, showman, just a fantastic front man.

  • @pimenteldavid84
    @pimenteldavid84 20 днів тому

    2:38 No in-ear monitors, still in tune, hits high notes: You can see him checking his ear a couple of times through the performance (just closing it with a finger to hear his own voice in his skull). He simply knows how to sing and has practiced the part. What a sad state it is that today we have no expectation of singers to do this.

  • @michaelburk9171
    @michaelburk9171 6 місяців тому +3

    John Avila is the bassist. Guy gets it done.
    Every one in the band was skilled. And Danny Elfman is a unique talent. Not a stretch to say musical genius.
    Elfman has gone on to compose over a hundred film scores. He done symphonies and released an album of sorta heavy speed metal a few years ago.

    • @robertomonge1967
      @robertomonge1967 23 дні тому

      Don't forget that steve bartek come with him to make films. They were a dynamic duo but most folks only name Danny, who is an incredible talent but he also surrounded himself with talented friends.

    • @michaelburk9171
      @michaelburk9171 22 дні тому

      @@robertomonge1967
      Bartec is the symphony conductor on Danny's latest tours. He steps in as guitarist for Dead Man's party near the end of the show

  • @cowreviewer
    @cowreviewer 5 місяців тому

    Ah, my favorite band. Happy to see them gaining recognition.

  • @nw1750
    @nw1750 2 місяці тому

    You are not- by any stretch of the imagination - a young man. How is all of this so amazing to you? This is how live music was for decades - DURING your lifetime.
    Having said that, it's adorable when folks discover the wonders of Oingo Boingo for the first time.

  • @dresdenvisage
    @dresdenvisage 3 місяці тому

    I discovered Oingo Boingo in the early 2000s when I was a teenager, and pretty much wouldn't listen to anything else. This concert is my absolute favorite, and it's validating to know that my opinion isn't born solely out of ignorance of other artists. This is PEAK Elfman, and I fall in love every time.

  • @MrAlanpdunning
    @MrAlanpdunning 2 місяці тому

    Very good video.

  • @do0ranfrump260
    @do0ranfrump260 2 місяці тому

    Boingo was an anomaly even back then. No one did a show like theirs. We would get tickets way in advance to go because everyone knew that was going to be a party. The halloween shows were almost impossible to get into with out extreme planning. Danny's farewell show was amazing too. Extremely prolific, he could have continued. They were popular, their music was still great.. Danny wanted to write film scores.

  • @computerfighter2000
    @computerfighter2000 7 місяців тому +2

    OINGO BOINGO 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @Baribrotzer
    @Baribrotzer 6 місяців тому +1

    One point: Johnny Hernandez is playing what look like real drums - but they're rigged with triggers and are playing samples, which might have helped the onstage clarity.

    • @bobyost42
      @bobyost42 5 днів тому

      Dude, this was 1985, sampling and triggers weren't a thing yet.

  • @JohnLnyc
    @JohnLnyc 6 місяців тому +1

    Interesting (mostly accurate) commentary. There’s one huge caveat that applies to most everything we see and hear in videos especially on sites like You Tube.
    This specific performance was broadcast on a LI radio station WLIR.
    What we are hearing is likely from the mixing board. Not the venue sound system. (room sounds/live audio of the room may be mixed in).
    The video was professionally done. I believe MTV was involved. There was/is a “live” record. All likely expertly mixed and mastered. The truth is we do not really know if anything was added (or subtracted) involving the FOH mix, or later.
    Oingo Boingo were, as many eighties bands using a lot of technology mostly via synthesizers. Backing tracks were used. They got some bass sound on records using a traditional bass mic’d or DI adding a Moog.
    In the late sixties, The Moody Blues used a melotron to replicate massed strings. The Beatles used a melotron as well. Those flutes opening “Strawberry Fields”? Melotron. Later the Fairlight entered the recording scene. The Linn drum machine was used pretty extensively. Hit “Jack and Diane” uses a Linn. Jeff Porcaro put drums and percussion for “Africa” on a loop.
    My point is, there’s a meme developing dividing music into good…no effects no gimmicks just a pristine live and recorded world and “evil”…faked, auto tuned, trickery in live and recorded performances.
    Danny Elfman is a terrific singer. Oingo Boingo is a superb band. I wasn’t there that night but what we are hearing on the video is suspiciously a bit too perfect. The Ritz (Webster Hall) has an excellent sound system. I have no doubt Oingo Boingo sounded great there.
    Simple question?
    Was the delay on his voice added “on the spot” at the board FOH or later when the sound was mixed in preparation for release via record or MTV?
    Likely, it was applied that night.
    Steve Lukather had a great quote to the effect that technology is great as another “tool” for musicians when used by creative people who know what they are doing.

    • @rosenyne
      @rosenyne 6 місяців тому

      Trust me, they sounded that amazing IRL. It wasn't just bc of post-editing or the mixing board. Oingo Boingo was famous for being a vintage style big band orchestra and avant garde street performers as the Mystic Knights back before they ever became a rock band, so they were all incredible musicians with years of experience. I just kind of laughed the entire time I was watching the video because this guy just discovered Oingo Boingo and it blew his mind, and this isn't even early OB where the band is playing faster, even more prog rock and ska inspired material and playing Balinese gongs. I especially love his bewildered commentary on John Avila, bass player extraordinaire. John would probably fly like a bird if he wasn't weighed down by his instruments.

    • @JohnLnyc
      @JohnLnyc 6 місяців тому +1

      @@rosenyne I agree with you they were a great band. One of my favorites. However, I think you may be missing my point.
      I am commenting about the “sound” on the video here, not the performance.
      This was part of a TV series, “MTV Live at the Ritz” what is heard here, is a carefully recorded and mixed and mastered sound. Not raw recorded sound. It is “too perfect” too balanced. This is not likely exactly as heard were you in the audience.
      There’s an earlier “rougher” version with lots of crowd noise. For eg Bartek’s opening guitar is edgier not as clean.
      Other MTV “live from the Ritz” videos here also are “too clean, too balanced” and as one who posted the GnR show noted “heavily compressed” for You Tube. The concerts likely had to be compressed for radio (WLIR) and MTV.
      Again, I am referencing “sound” not performance.

  • @NTATchannelNickTaylor
    @NTATchannelNickTaylor Місяць тому

    Boingo was great to see live.

  • @tomcanham9218
    @tomcanham9218 5 місяців тому +2

    Do not fuck with Danny Elfman in re music. You will lose, he will devour you: he gets no respect.

  • @brentottoson6974
    @brentottoson6974 2 місяці тому

    Johnny Vatos is a tight drummer. He'd screw with Danny by obviously slowing down songs. Most of the time he was probably a bit fast. So much they would run through their playlist on New Year's Eve and have to play a few songs to fill time before midnight. I heard 'Heard It Through the Grapevine' a few times. The horn section played other percussion instruments throughout concerts. Steve Bartek is always tight on guitar. His solos are so eclectic. He does the arranging for Danny's movie scores. Yes, I'm a fan.

  • @martinzaehringer1697
    @martinzaehringer1697 6 місяців тому +1

    Saw them at a community college in the San Fernando Valley so long ago, maybe 40 years ago or so. My wife and I were right at the lip of the stage. Terrific performance except some girl in high heels spiked my wife's foot, but she soldiered on and would not leave the front of the crowd.

  • @NondescriptMammal
    @NondescriptMammal 4 місяці тому

    No in ear monitors, but like most bands back then, they have the floor monitor speakers at stage front

  • @josephlucatorto4772
    @josephlucatorto4772 7 місяців тому +2

    Don't use that word for a tank top

    • @genogeno6643
      @genogeno6643 4 місяці тому

      I thought it was called a "Wife Beater"

  • @youalreadyknow5039
    @youalreadyknow5039 3 місяці тому

    As a matter of fact, the majority of 80’s bands didn’t wear earpieces. SoftCell, Human League, haircut 100, Fear, Gary Numan… the greats. They didn’t need extra stuff, voice enhancements, a lap top with all the beats and sounds, etc. All of us growing up in the 80’s are still loyal to their good music….
    Bop till ya drop and shank till ya ranks… KEEP SKA ALIVE!!!

  • @mrbungle3310
    @mrbungle3310 3 місяці тому +1

    This band is what pop music should be...amazing songwriting and performance
    Ai might take over just like autotune did...the mainstream ppl are just eating up everything corporations feed them and i have no problem with that ,but yeah it is what it is i guess

  • @youalreadyknow5039
    @youalreadyknow5039 3 місяці тому

    One of the best or theee best bands.

  • @damienalvarez2957
    @damienalvarez2957 День тому

    3:56 my friend plays a keytar in his band.

  • @SyrDoN
    @SyrDoN Місяць тому

    Danny Elfman is the most important person in music of the past century. He has touched more souls than anyone could have ever dreamed. He is everywhere. he did it all in stealth. There is nobody that is more music. AI will never capture the soul of danny elfman. Congratulations for trying. Danny didn't break the rules - he made them.

  • @simseven4967
    @simseven4967 4 місяці тому

    And not to forget, no fckn phones in audience👏🏻👍🏻✌🏻

  • @AlmostReady504
    @AlmostReady504 5 місяців тому

    Danny Elfman hits always been a freak . An immensely talented... freak

  • @kkapre5150
    @kkapre5150 2 місяці тому

    LONG LIVE OINGO BOINGO!!!!

  • @michaelward3421
    @michaelward3421 4 місяці тому

    I was lucky enough to have grown up in L. A. and been introduced to the Mystic Knights of the Oingo Boingo when they were just a local club band in 1973. I can't even count how times I have seen them live. One of the all time best bands ever.

    • @sarafox5792
      @sarafox5792 2 місяці тому

      So lucky

    • @bobyost42
      @bobyost42 5 днів тому

      Bet you give anything to see them w/Danny just one more time I saw em 33x back then and I know I'd give anything!!

  • @nyago7556
    @nyago7556 2 місяці тому

    The one that plays keyboards is Mike bacich !! 😄

  • @AsilarWindsailor
    @AsilarWindsailor 2 місяці тому +1

    "Nobody plays the Keytar anymore" See: Tupperware Remix Party. Their song Bright blue Sky is awesome. Even check out their collaborations with Ninja Sex Party

    • @bobyost42
      @bobyost42 5 днів тому +1

      Love both of those bands so much!! Met Danny Sexbang at a Queensryche show and he was cool enough to talk to my daughter on the phone because she was at home, sick. TWRP & NSP RULE!!

    • @AsilarWindsailor
      @AsilarWindsailor 5 днів тому +1

      That's awesome! I bet that really made her day

    • @bobyost42
      @bobyost42 5 днів тому +1

      @@AsilarWindsailor it totally did!! I didn't expect to see him, so i was walking back from the bathroom, & i saw him peripherally at first I didn't recognize him but my brain told me "STOP!! You walked past Danny from NSP just now!" I stopped, turned my head tthe left and said " I know you, you're Danny Sexbang!" He said "Thats the rumor." He was sitting alll by himself!! I explained that my daughter had gotten me into NSP but she was sick at home. When I asked him If he would mind shooting a video saying hello, he said "Sure!! But why don't we call her instead?!! He was just a super cool dude, and so gracious!! I love meeting celebs that are nicer than they have to be, it makes me happy to know that they enjoy and appreciate their fans... he was taller than I expected him to be.

  • @danam312
    @danam312 2 місяці тому

    Just give the Bingo Alive album. Instead of a live show, they went into a studio and just played all the songs live. All so much better than the clean tracks.

  • @znzp250
    @znzp250 6 місяців тому +1

    Oingo Boingo IS the greatest and best band in the world

  • @t-qb1sq
    @t-qb1sq 6 місяців тому +1

    The little bot was just too little.

  • @flippy101mph9
    @flippy101mph9 6 місяців тому

    AAAAAAHHHP
    that concert was performed on 12/20/1985
    I shouldn't know that but I do

  • @markshepardsongs
    @markshepardsongs 7 місяців тому +2

    DUDE! great Video! I've heard of Danny Elfman. and I've heard of Oingo Boingo but I didn't realize there was a connection LOL.

  • @richpeltier9519
    @richpeltier9519 5 місяців тому

    Having honed their craft in laundramats and street corners, after a few years they found themselves one of the few acts to perform at both US Festivals, each time to almost 500,000 people.
    I'd say they were an absolutely singular band, but a few years later I was fortunate to see a very young and about to explode on the world...No Doubt.
    🤟🧙‍♂🤟

    • @robk22401
      @robk22401 2 місяці тому +1

      Gwen Stefani used to sneak out of the house to go to Oingo Boingo shows in her teens.

  • @DrClawofOutpost69
    @DrClawofOutpost69 4 місяці тому

    Weird Science is free this month on UA-cam.

  • @johnbremner5339
    @johnbremner5339 2 місяці тому +1

    there are still bands that do this, but they are old guys.
    You should listen to Frank Zappa next

  • @alexkunce2002
    @alexkunce2002 2 місяці тому

    There are a lot of important qualities to being an artist; you don't have to be a good performer to have good music, so long as you are good with composing. You don't need to be a good singer; Bob Dylan isn't much of a singer, he's a songwriter, he has good lyrics and that's enough. Being a sick performer like Oingo Boingo is a skill. Turns out they also have amazing writing behind them too. The problem comes when there is no performance value, no compositional value, no lyrical value. There's nothing there. Before digital music took off, everyone was at least held to the standard of performing live. New artists who make music digitally and aren't performers (myself included) can have good music, but it's not required. There is no safety net.

  • @thesean3194
    @thesean3194 5 місяців тому

    Always knew Oingo Boingo was a glitch in the matrix. The only band I have never seen play live on my bucket list.

  • @mahatmarandy5977
    @mahatmarandy5977 4 місяці тому

    I just put a comment up here without realizing that I had put another comment up here a month ago saying basically the same thing. So I deleted the new one. My memory sucks.

  • @SyrDoN
    @SyrDoN Місяць тому

    Big mess is a total masterpiece. Every note. End of Story. Let's hear taylor's version of that.

  • @Evil_Noah
    @Evil_Noah 6 місяців тому +1

    I mean yeah the horn section was there and singing too, they were always a part of the band as well. Oingo Boingo was a big god damn band lol.

  • @hebneh
    @hebneh 6 місяців тому

    If the technology doesn’t exist, you get along without it and don’t miss it. You learn to do all the stuff that’s necessary, and then you do it.

  • @schusterbeats
    @schusterbeats 9 днів тому

    Nice vid! Boingo Rules!

  • @davers8684
    @davers8684 2 місяці тому

    Does this guy have any idea of concerts, back in the 1900s? Look up Van Halen Live (1984 and before).

    • @bobyost42
      @bobyost42 5 днів тому

      VH was always either great or terrible & you never knew which was gonna happen on a given night.

  • @PwnytailJoe
    @PwnytailJoe 6 місяців тому

    long live Zappa🤘