Deuteronomy 6:4 ► Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Despite the different names, both Allah and Elohim are believed to be the same, all-powerful, all-knowing, and merciful God.
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂
Deuteronomy 6:4 ► Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Despite the different names, both Allah and Elohim are believed to be the same, all-powerful, all-knowing, and merciful God.
@@blueblubber6607there are many critics written against him shortly after him like the one of John of Damascus ( even tho it’s complete BS and made up lies ) however we have no writings of the ebionite Christian’s that rejected Paul as false teacher, actually we have no writings of them even tho they made up the first apostolic church
@@As_412 Not much info left on Musaylima, had he won the battle of Yamama we wouldn't have the hadiths and you would call Momo the false prophet today.
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂😊
@@johnbrzykcy3076 May you be guided by God. Amiin. Quran 56:77-80 This is an honorable Quran. In a protected book. None can grasp it except the sincere. A revelation from the Lord of the universe.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 Im a simple Muslim because I searched hard for concrete objective evidence across all religions and allowed proof rather than emotion to dictate my conclusion for Islam to be the one true religion. I pray that God may guide you and me further to the straight path.
Deuteronomy 6:4 ► Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Despite the different names, both Allah and Elohim are believed to be the same, all-powerful, all-knowing, and merciful God.
2:55 the newest version (edit: of Jeremiah) in Leningrad from 10th century has 15% more than the 1st century dead sea scroll's Jeremiah !! if it was 15% less (one may argue maybe some pages were lost, etc) but to HAVE 15% more when it is later manuscript shows addition for sure
But does the extra 15% adjust the stories or meaning in any significant way? It's probably just being updated as language evolves. I'm quite sure the English translation is longer again but it doesn't affect the story or meaning and that is the important bit.
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂
Deuteronomy 6:4 ► Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Despite the different names, both Allah and Elohim are believed to be the same, all-powerful, all-knowing, and merciful God.
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂😊
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂
Deuteronomy 6:4 ► Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Despite the different names, both Allah and Elohim are believed to be the same, all-powerful, all-knowing, and merciful God.
Deuteronomy 6:4 ► Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Despite the different names, both Allah and Elohim are believed to be the same, all-powerful, all-knowing, and merciful God.
He's a Kaffir who speaks against Islam and the Quran akhi, you are not allowed to like them akhi, please have some pride and honor and jealousy for Islam also protect your heart the way the Nabi Muhammad sullalahu alaihi wasallam taught us.
@@sitiqoniah4956 There is this account that claims to be a “sister from Yemen” who copy pastes a text where she basically asks for money. I used to see her on just one channel but then saw her everywhere! English, Dutch, dawah channels etc 😂 he beat her with his comment!
Alhamdulilah. My dreams came true to see two of my favourite lecturers in one single frame, much awaited session, indeed. I hope you will have a session with Dr. Shabir Ally too. Best wishes, Brother Paul.
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂
*Questions* 0:31 _Do Dead Sea Scrolls confirm the Old Testament ?_ 8:17 _(a) Isn't it astonishing that there were big differences in Christian groups in early centuries ?_ ; and _(b) Which of them did most closely resemble the faith of Jesus' own disciples ?_
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂
You know something, as a Muslim, I don’t believe in bad things, they’re all tests from Allah. We don’t have the totality of evidence so we don’t see the wisdom behind many of it, but as Islam teaches certainty of Allah, nothing can beat it. What a mercy this was built inside of us, as Ghazali said, al wasalin.
According to sahih hadith prophet Muhammad PBUH never tell compiled Quran as a book form just prophet Muhammad PBUH companion complied Quran so strange if prophet Muhammad PBUH know Quran Quran for mankind he will definitely preserved his life span
@@MasudFahim-h2i because he never needed to do that, the companions at his time wrote it and memorized it, so he didn't need to make a standard version because everyone around him knows it, later when memorizers started dying in wars, the companions wrote a standard Mushaf so that the Qur'an isn't lost
@@ziadyasser341 if preservation it's important why sahih bukhari hadith mention prophet Muhammad PBUH never say complications Quran that's prove Quran complete Man made it's efforts some people like gospel & old testament
@@MasudFahim-h2i 1. Your English is really hard to understand, learn English first 2.lol, so the quran is man made because the prophet didn't compile it in a single standard book, so if you don't know, the Qur'an is an audio book, not a written book, and to memorize the Qur'an and take an official ijaza chain from the prophet to you, you need to recite it all from your memory, most people at the prophets time didn't know how to read, and people who knew how to read wrote the Qur'an, so it was useless to have an official compiled version if 1.most people can't read it 2. Companions who memorize the Qur'an are alive 3. Companions know how to read already wrote what they heard from the prophet
Deuteronomy 6:4 ► Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Despite the different names, both Allah and Elohim are believed to be the same, all-powerful, all-knowing, and merciful God.
I read in an article that Dead Sea scrolls supports Samaritan theology than that of Jewish theology. Such as, the Dead Sea scroll confirms mount Grezim as the location of first temple, not the Mount Moriah or the Temple Mount in Jerusalem . Samaritan theology doesn’t consider Jerusalem as a holy city. Can you discuss the differences between Samaritan and Jewish theology?
@@jesan733 I suggest read ur bible And it's common sense that it's not from God Example Letter of Paul According to John According to Matthew (See name of people And the worst is they are unknown and no chain of narrator)😂😂😂 Translate this translate that Unlike Quran which author by God Allah said he will protect it from corruption and a Hadith with known chain of narrator I suggest study the mathematical structure of Quran and u will know it will not be made by certain man in desert
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂
The main difference is that you can say that there are differences in Jewish and Christian texts...... and no one will threaten or try to take your life.
@@jameswright... ok - today in the 21st Century - which mainstream Christian group makes statements promising murder in case of questioning the religion (apart from a few barking mad Americans). We'll set that against the Christians being murdered in Africa as we speak.... and not forgetting the Yezidi Christian girls who were burned alive while locked in a cage for refusing to convert to Islam. Oh and the new laws in Afghanistan requiring windows to be blocked up to prevent "indecency" if a man should be able to see a woman peeling potatoes.
I ship this collab so much, Paul and Bert look similar and around same age same background in theology and a merger between the 2 should be called Paul Ehrman
2 smart guys, but 1 smart guy finding the truth and find his peace since he believe there is another life after this worldly life and another smart guy probably still searching. But life is short, we don't want to end up regret later since no coming back after we die.
Interesting video. All this proves that is that there wasn't a singular version of Christianity like current Christians say but a diverse group of Christianities. And out of all of them, one group "won" and became mainstream Christianity, regardless of whether it was based on Jesus AS's true teachings or not. And then this version of mainstream Christianity changed and created its own off-shoots.
@user-wc7ku7ud3e He literally learned a dead language to be able to read the most direct source he could find. I somehow doubt you have done anything near that difficult in the pursuit of truth.
@@Stabsdagoblin Research and conduct studies and become an atheist? Whoever has a mind does not become an atheist. Whoever researches will reach the truth. My dear, I consider any atheist a person who does not think.
One does not see any prophet hood established until Gilgamesh but springing up of organized religious institutionalized government is evident from Gilgamesh period which is the first point in human history, declaring of the ruler to be the representative of forces of nature was the common practice so that people could be controlled and their faith could be established in the house of rulers. As generally people feared the forces of nature.
The epic is a fictional poem containing numerous mythological elements, such as gods, supernatural beings, and fantastical adventures, besides s3x between the gods. The story is structured as an epic poem, is not historical, but with a focus on themes like friendship, the quest for immortality, and the human condition. It is not the establishment of priesthood or a religious document outlining observances. Trusting the Epic of Gilgamesh to be any more authoritative for religious purposes than the Lord of the Rings, is to believe that The DaVinci Code is an interpretive key to the Jewish scriptures.
It's pretty clear with Church writings, as with many other writings from history, the winners get to write the history, and losers writings are often destroyed.
Paul and Bart are blinkered. The original source or version of a text is not what’s important, it’s the content that’s important and whether, psychologically, it works or not. The reason Christianity is in decline is precisely because it hasn’t changed since the Middle Ages. As Carl Jung said: “To be sure ‘Christ’ gave the myth a new meaning for the man of antiquity. But when we still go on stressing the newness 2000 years later, we must point out what exactly is the news for us, which we haven’t yet heard and understood.” Yes, it’s interesting and useful to see how and why a text has changed since it was first written down but ultimately what matters is - can you understand its meaning and is the message relevant or not. If Bart (with the the aid of a Time Machine) had the original Gospels in his possession with the ink still wet, he still wouldn’t understand what Christianity is about. Bart’s portrayal of early Christian diversity is misleading too because he fails to understand the psychology of religion. Carl Jung describes it better when he describes it thus: “Christianity really arose from the spirit of Gnosticism, but came into conflict with it later, because the Gnostics threatened to dissolve Christianity with their philosophical speculations.” ~Carl Jung, ETH Lecture V. Page 162. It was the spirit of Gnosticism that give rise to the diversity of Christian thought.
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@@kashmalabangash6134so they were this Jewish sect, they believed Baptism was a way of initiation, they followed a guy 150 years before Jesus known as the teacher of righteousness, who had 12 men in his counsel one of them betrayed him, they used phrases like sons of light sons of darkness, they said things like this generation shall not pass till so and so is fufilled, but the time u get to Jesus these Essenes 150 years ago obviously would have children and grandchildren who started delving into Greek works and learning the language etc, they believe the temple was in the body they hated the Pharisees and referred to them as brute vipers, u find these things in the Gospels a lot, and we don't hear about them after the destruction of the temple, Jospehus mentions them but we didn't know much about them, they were a mystic apocalyptic movement similar to Paul and Mark
@@kashmalabangash6134the truth is i believe they heard about Jesus they of course had access to Jesus sayings and they put their own theology in it, literary mimesis was a think back then, putting words into peoples mouth too, just like a play or a movie
@@youtubeaccount3230 sometimes i think they were philosophers themselves and of course not someone simple bcz imagine playing with holy words and causing harm to next generations bcz they'll believe it is something not easy but they as usual couldn't stretch out it perfectly bcz philosophy itself plays with one mind you might confuse your unconscious, subconscious and conscious thoughts whilst sharing thoughts based on philosophy and instead of something super beautiful and authentic you will spill illogic and unrelated things that's what Quran also says about them and mostly Quran sees them as half knowledgeable philosophers and stuff who for the sake of popularity ( so that people might find it more interesting and would buy them leading a great profit to their business)combined their thoughts with the true teachings revealed by Allah ( according to Muslim perspective)
Ya Muqallib al-quloob thabbit qalbi 'ala deenik يَا مُقَلِّبَ الْقُلُوبِ ثَبِّتْ قَلْبِى عَلَى دِينِكَ “O Controller of hearts, make my heart firm in Your religion.”
It is sunnah to recite {Subhaanal-Malikil-Quddus} 3 times after the Witr prayer, while elongating the words in the third time. سُبْحَانَ الْمَلِكِ الْقُدُّوسِ Subhaanal-Malikil-Quddus, Subhaanal-Malikil-Quddus, Subhaanal-Malikil-Qudduuuuuuuus (or Subhaaaaanal-Malikil-Quddus). Sunan an-Nasa’i 1729
I found Bart's videos a couple of years ago. Bart became my favorite author when I studied, over twenty years. The Snake and the Worm Jesus was to be lifted up like the serpent. There are two appearances, within the same generation - the sacrifice followed by the resurrection. YHWH judged the gods - who neither know nor understand, wandering about in darkness - and became the snake - thus fulfilling the law. Adam, the Christ, wields the fiery sword, judges the earth, and becomes a worm - thus fulfilling the law. (Are they) unjust, humanly speaking, to inflict his wrath? Of course not! For how else (are they) to judge… ? And why not say-- as we are accused and as some claim we say-- that we should do evil that good may come of it? Their penalty is what they deserve. (Rom 3:5-8 NABO) The gods will be measured against the judgment (sacrifice) by Adam. YHWH is without measure.
Peace be unto you is this full episode for paying only? Or is this a only for those in the inner blogging theology circle!? FROM The South Bronx NYC THE NEW AL FANDALUS
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂
Allah says the Quran has been changed and updated 👇 Quran 16:101 👉When We replace a verse with another👈-and Allah knows best what He reveals-they say, “You ˹Muḥammad˺ are just a fabricator.” In fact, most of them do not know. Quran 2:106 👉If We ever abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten👈, 👉We replace it with a better or similar one👈. Do you not know that Allah is Most Capable of everything?
@@imran4006 Great thank you! Basically your Islanic Allah is not able to preserve the original version from the time of Mohamed but needs to replace and update. This indicates the human Quran author is trying to make up excuses for the Quran changing over time, example Uthman burning the other Qurans and for the fact there are still to this day dozens of different Quran versions available. Your top Islamic scholars know this but they dont share it publicly, type "holes in the narrative Quran" on youtube as an example Also, open your Quran, notice at the start of the Quran the versus are longer compared to the end of the Quran where the versus are smaller, this shows 2 main points- 1. Different style of construction of the texts = different authors 2. Quran clearly is not a miracle if it is not consistant
@@soniq351 - Verses are longer & shorter. So, that's the contradiction you found out??😂😂 See you have also written sentences in paragraph some of which are longer & shorter. So, does that mean 2 persons wrote those different paragraphs. 😂😂
Odd argument from Bart about Isaias. It is almost identical to the one we have today. But we don’t know if it changed in the 800 years before the Dead Sea scrolls were written. Yet presumably the copies around today couldn’t use the Dead Sea scrolls to check their accuracy…..yet they are identical. The atheist seems to think heretic teachings are just as valid as the Church’s. Yet those heresies died out and the Church’s teachings continued.
The correct conclusion is that there is no god, or at least no god that makes himself known. Islam's claim of being the original faith has no support in archeology nor textual criticism. In fact it is refuted by what we know about the evolution of religion.
I have a doubt.. His works are pro Islam/ supports the muqaddima of Islam or does it conflict with Islamic Dailoug. I want to study his work but i don't know weather i would get information in favour of giving dawah to Christians or not...
Very hypocritical from the Muslim gentleman. Bart’s arguments could be equally used against the Quran. You don’t have the original manuscripts of that either
Perhaps no way to know ... but we can extrapolate. The "Hebrew" bible was circumstancially adopted by the Jewish faith. the Jewish faith actually began during the reign of King Josiah, after KJ ordered his chief (pagan) priest to appropriately "restore" a manuscript of the Books of Moses that had been found hidden in Solomon's pagan-devolved Temple. What was actually produced was the JEWISH Faith, as devinely revealed from an ancient codex that had been "missing" for generations.
I would love bart to have told us how the differences in Jeremiah or the other books affect the stories or meaning. I suspect it doesn't affect the story or meaning in any way and that is why he doesn't mention anything about it. The differences are probably just altering text as language evolves. For example I'm fairly sure the English translation is longer again but it doesn't alter the meaning from earlier copies.
Yhwh not really god's name. I heard of jew said that the name of god is so pure and secret, they are not allow to pronounce it. Yhwh is like "he" refer to god without saying his name. The word yhwh is not really from torah , i forgot where the word came from.
@@yanievarina9212 jews says it's too sacred to pronounce yhwh I get it then why historians says it's one of lesser Canaanite Deity name if God said to Moses I never revealed this name before u then why Canaanite religion has this name before Moses
@@Dark_Angel4474if I'm not mistaken the Canaanites had a God in their Pantheon of gods named "El". I don't know that the tetragrammaton was ever seen in a Canaanite context.
What if heretics ARE malicious? Like, why would you try to falsify God's teachings, except for bad intentions? I mean, could Jesus Christ be any clearer that there would be false teachings. (With which I do not want to say that the Nicene creed and the surviving big churches are the ones that necessarily represent the correct teachings - in fact, I would deny that.)
Problem is that everybody are heretics, because there's no true faith. It's all made up. Of course those who deliberately change or add to the previously made-up body of belief are doing so for reasons, but they don't have to be malicious, although they're usually selfish in some sense.
Would have been great to hear an answer to the second part of the final question. What I find baffling is how are scholars such as BE not seduced by Islam when all the issues he has discovered in Christanity are absent in a comparatively flawless narrative free of inconsistency
He used to be a Christian pastor. He has trust issue now. This is the reason Christian become Atheist although In Bart Ehrman case there is still hope because he is still a theist but refuse to be a Christian ever since he started digging into the authenticity of Gospels. He discovered huge holes 🕳️ a book without Author becomes an idea, a point of view. For ex: you had Unitarians Christian who read same Bible and come up with polar opposite opinion. Point of View.
If you compare deeply with understanding, you'll see that islam is a shallow copy of christianity with added errors and misunderstandings of original motifs and stories. That's why. So while Bart knows Christianity is false, he understands that Islam is even more so.
@@jesan733 No you can't look at Islam as a simply a book. You have to look at as a whole. Bart is only interested in Christianity I do not think he looked at Islam as a whole. Question I would ask is what did the man who made claim gain from it? I mean follow the money. Did he got rich from spreading a message? Was it about money? Did he died rich? Did he had offers? Why cause civil war over it? Most importantly what was his message? If you go by something being old then Hinduism is the oldest religion. Get this they have Trimurti the triune God theory. So the Trinity is not a new concept get it and Bart must know this. You can say Islam is a stand alone religion but historically Ishmael were the Arabs this fact is undeniable fact. Bart want Christianity to be what Islam is therefore he is only interested in Christianity. Name me a religion that accept Jesus other then ISLAM? BTW science doesn't support Virgin birth if Islam was not putting his neck out Christianity would be debunk just on science facts. 🤔🤔🤔
@@kashkash9244 I don't have to look at islam as a whole. If the quran is man-made, and it is, then the religion is not truth but made up. And then I don't have to look further. There's no "undeniable fact" that "Ishmael were the Arabs". That's just a story. Muhammad became the centre of everyone's attention and respect by creating the religion, and he got the women he wanted. He was rich in the same manner as Putin is. Putin doesn't need any money on his bank account, because he can command the entire economy.
@@jesan733 off course you won't look at Islam as a whole. Who said you will. People at the time didn't either so you won't be the first and certainly won't be the last. Thank God no inquisition in Islam unlike Christianity. No compulsion, only verbal messages. So I would say there is the door. Keep walking.
These men make things so complicated. If we are imperfect beings and God still allows us to breathe this means our God is good and if he is good he should be trusted. Just because a scroll came in less or more or accurate or not does not show that God is incomplete but that we are incompetent
Dead Sea scrolls were only fragmented manuscripts preserved in those jars in that cave. The nation Israel is credited with preserving the OT scrolls by copying them under the strictest rules or standards. Dead sea scrolls perhaps were individual owned copies. But the most important thing with those Dead Sea scrolls, they were accurate copies of the preserved copies from the originals. Dead Sea scrolls therefore served as strong evidence of the preservation of copies from the originals.
Dead Sea scroll doesn't match the bible we have today. This what Bart Ehrman is saying, there is a contradiction. There are things in today bible that are not in Dead Sea scroll. There are things in Dead Sea scroll that are not in today's bible. If Dead Sea scrolls are the oldest then people have to abandon today's bible and adapt Dead Sea scrolls. A decision Church Father refuse they only accept what aligns with their view. Ex: Gospel of Thomas discarded, Book of Enoch discarded. Are they not inspired word? Who decide it Men?
@@kashkash9244 Folks never understood how the OT manuscripts were preserved. The nation Israel was in charge of preserving the OT manuscripts by copying them under the strictest rules or standards. The evidence for it is the Greek translation (sometime in 250 BC during Ptolemy's reign) of the OT known as the Septuagint. Therefore, there was a complete copy of the Manuscripts both Hebrew and Greek before the Qumran scrolls were discovered. It is just absurd those Qumran scrolls which were not under the keeping of Israel would serve as the standard manuscripts. It is apparent they were fragmented scrolls individually owned or kept generally by Israel, but were kept in the caves due to wars for preservation if in case. One should take not there was not only one copy made for the manuscripts keeping in danger of its preservation. The scribes worked full time copying every day the Manuscripts.
@@kashkash9244A contradiction would be, stating a fact occurred, vs. stating the same fact did not occur. A contradiction is not a change in chapter order or different phraseology to convey the exact same message. Nor is a contradiction differences in punctuation and spelling, of which is the majority of textual changes throughout the Bible. Here is better list of Dead Sea Scrolls, as kept and added to, by the Qumran community: Great Isaiah Scroll (1QIsa): Contains the entire Book of Isaiah. Second Isaiah Scroll (1QIsa): Another copy of portions of Isaiah. Habakkuk Commentary (1QpHab): A pesher (commentary) on the Book of Habakkuk. Genesis Apocryphon (1QapGen): An expanded narrative of parts of Genesis. Sectarian Texts Community Rule (1QS): Describes the rules and beliefs of the Qumran community. War Scroll (1QM): Details an apocalyptic battle between the Sons of Light and the Sons of Darkness. Thanksgiving Hymns (1QH): A collection of hymns and prayers, Apocryphal and Pseudepigraphal Texts Book of Tobit: A narrative about Tobit’s piety and adventures. Wisdom of Ben Sira (Sirach): A collection of ethical teachings. Epistle of Jeremiah: A letter attributed to the prophet Jeremiah. Other Notable Manuscripts: Temple Scroll: Describes an idealized temple and its regulations. Copper Scroll: Lists hidden treasures. Songs of the Sabbath Sacrifice: Liturgical texts for Sabbath worship. Of course, it doesn't perfectly match the accepted masoretic text, it has too many biased and unnecessary inclusions.
@@kashkash9244Additionally, I've read both the Book of Thomas and Book of Enoch. They are way off the beaten path to include. If you include them you might as well include anything else that was ever written, no matter how untruthful or or fanciful.
@@claromagallanes2877Exactly. Even Bartthe atheist knows that. Also, the scribes worked off a Master manuscript that upon creation was rigorously examined under complex copying requirements before approval and singley used until it wore down necessitating another laborious creation of another Master. Multiple Masters were made and transferred to heads of synagogues and churches for use. The Scribes outside of Jerusalem could not control the subsequent normal distributed copies from the Master made outside their region of authority. Regardless, everyone involved in copying had a very high and solemn view of the work they were engaged in ( it was a professional job) because it was after all God's word, and nobody wanted to be responsible for altering it. Edit: Amazing that we have so much textual evidence, when Christianity was a forbidden sect by both the Jewish and Romans for a couple hundred years and every scripture or Bible found in Christians possesion were destroyed.
Wow Bart, talk about overstatement! I really don't understand why Bart devotes his life to something he doesn't believe. What strikes me are all the people who think this stuff is new or revelatory. Any Bible college or any study for that matter will expose you to these things. We know about the Gnostics etc., we also know that they do not represent the orthodox faith and here I side with my Greek orthodox brothers and sisters.
Well the word bible is mentioned and new testament but this is a small clip from a larger interview. It's comparing the difference between the scrolls and later versions.
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I can never get enough of Bart. The way he lays out the arguments is incredibly easy to understand
Thank you Paul and Prof Ehrman for increasing our knowledge.
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Deuteronomy 6:4 ►
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Despite the different names, both Allah and Elohim are believed to be the same, all-powerful, all-knowing, and merciful God.
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂
I love the comment from Bart. “ Paul had more enemies in his day than friends and we don’t have the writings of his enemies”.
Deuteronomy 6:4 ►
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Despite the different names, both Allah and Elohim are believed to be the same, all-powerful, all-knowing, and merciful God.
True, same applies to Mohamed.
@@blueblubber6607there are many critics written against him shortly after him like the one of John of Damascus ( even tho it’s complete BS and made up lies ) however we have no writings of the ebionite Christian’s that rejected Paul as false teacher, actually we have no writings of them even tho they made up the first apostolic church
@@blueblubber6607we do actually have the teachings of his enemies
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Not much info left on Musaylima, had he won the battle of Yamama we wouldn't have the hadiths and you would call Momo the false prophet today.
Bart Ehrman’s podcast “Misquoting Jesus” on his UA-cam channel has been very beneficial and eye opening. Every Christian should watch it
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Everyone, not just Christians
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂😊
Yeah as a Muslim I've found a lot of insight in it. You can really learn a lot about it.
I’m a simple man. I see a video from Paul. I click.
Same ❤
Same.
I'm a simple Christian believer. If I see a good video on Blogging Theology, I listen to it. May God bless you and give you peace.
@@johnbrzykcy3076 May you be guided by God. Amiin.
Quran 56:77-80 This is an honorable Quran. In a protected book. None can grasp it except the sincere.
A revelation from the Lord of the universe.
@@johnbrzykcy3076
Im a simple Muslim because I searched hard for concrete objective evidence across all religions and allowed proof rather than emotion to dictate my conclusion for Islam to be the one true religion. I pray that God may guide you and me further to the straight path.
Pleasantly surprised to see Bart Ehrman back on Blogging Theology
Deuteronomy 6:4 ►
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Despite the different names, both Allah and Elohim are believed to be the same, all-powerful, all-knowing, and merciful God.
2:55 the newest version (edit: of Jeremiah) in Leningrad from 10th century has 15% more than the 1st century dead sea scroll's Jeremiah !! if it was 15% less (one may argue maybe some pages were lost, etc) but to HAVE 15% more when it is later manuscript shows addition for sure
First you'd have to show that what's in the dead sea scrolls is correct
@@TheRastacabbage I agree, that too, but that apply to all scripture anyways..
But does the extra 15% adjust the stories or meaning in any significant way?
It's probably just being updated as language evolves.
I'm quite sure the English translation is longer again but it doesn't affect the story or meaning and that is the important bit.
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂
The dead sea scrolls r all forgeries
Wow! Paul, you are amazing! You have interviewed Bart! He is an authority and a wealth of knowledge about the Bible.
Deuteronomy 6:4 ►
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Despite the different names, both Allah and Elohim are believed to be the same, all-powerful, all-knowing, and merciful God.
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂😊
Always a great discussion when Brother Paul and Dr Bart Ehrman discuss something.
Barakallahu Feekum
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂
Thank you. I love these snippets
Deuteronomy 6:4 ►
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Despite the different names, both Allah and Elohim are believed to be the same, all-powerful, all-knowing, and merciful God.
The crossover we didn't know we needed
No cross over needed. False doctrine.
@@robertpundsack1363he’s talking about the two speakers, nothing else
@@mlmexiki so. I'm only replying to the dead sea scrolls are of no value
This video is came out 2 years ago, there is actually a full video with bart ertman
Deuteronomy 6:4 ►
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Despite the different names, both Allah and Elohim are believed to be the same, all-powerful, all-knowing, and merciful God.
When I discovered Dr. Bart, I loved him and he reminded me of brother Paul. Love to see all that knowledge together.
I like Bart I have watched many of his lectures and debates. This collaboration is 💥💥
He's a Kaffir who speaks against Islam and the Quran akhi, you are not allowed to like them akhi, please have some pride and honor and jealousy for Islam also protect your heart the way the Nabi Muhammad sullalahu alaihi wasallam taught us.
Glad you brought this one back in the form of a clipped segment. It's VERY important in dispelling widely held (incorrect) notions.
Great Work Paul, Need more such clippings and shorts of your splendid and extensive contributions.
Here before the "sisters from yemen" :)
😂
Hahahah
I dont get it
@@sitiqoniah4956 There is this account that claims to be a “sister from Yemen” who copy pastes a text where she basically asks for money.
I used to see her on just one channel but then saw her everywhere!
English, Dutch, dawah channels etc 😂 he beat her with his comment!
@@sitiqoniah4956 There is an automated Comment, always appearing after a new video is uploaded. Saying something like...i am your sister from Yemen...
Alhamdulilah. My dreams came true to see two of my favourite lecturers in one single frame, much awaited session, indeed. I hope you will have a session with Dr. Shabir Ally too. Best wishes, Brother Paul.
See what Bart thinks of Islam. You will be surprised.
Jzk for the information
May Allah Bless and Reward you in this Life and in the Hereafter.
Please Save Bangladesh student 😢🙏🇧🇩
ameen
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂
No
*Questions*
0:31 _Do Dead Sea Scrolls confirm the Old Testament ?_
8:17 _(a) Isn't it astonishing that there were big differences in Christian groups in early centuries ?_ ; and
_(b) Which of them did most closely resemble the faith of Jesus' own disciples ?_
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂
Thank you 🙏
You know something, as a Muslim, I don’t believe in bad things, they’re all tests from Allah. We don’t have the totality of evidence so we don’t see the wisdom behind many of it, but as Islam teaches certainty of Allah, nothing can beat it. What a mercy this was built inside of us, as Ghazali said, al wasalin.
According to sahih hadith prophet Muhammad PBUH never tell compiled Quran as a book form just prophet Muhammad PBUH companion complied Quran so strange if prophet Muhammad PBUH know Quran Quran for mankind he will definitely preserved his life span
@@MasudFahim-h2i because he never needed to do that, the companions at his time wrote it and memorized it, so he didn't need to make a standard version because everyone around him knows it, later when memorizers started dying in wars, the companions wrote a standard Mushaf so that the Qur'an isn't lost
@@ziadyasser341 if preservation it's important why sahih bukhari hadith mention prophet Muhammad PBUH never say complications Quran that's prove Quran complete Man made it's efforts some people like gospel & old testament
@@MasudFahim-h2i 1. Your English is really hard to understand, learn English first
2.lol, so the quran is man made because the prophet didn't compile it in a single standard book, so if you don't know, the Qur'an is an audio book, not a written book, and to memorize the Qur'an and take an official ijaza chain from the prophet to you, you need to recite it all from your memory, most people at the prophets time didn't know how to read, and people who knew how to read wrote the Qur'an, so it was useless to have an official compiled version if
1.most people can't read it
2. Companions who memorize the Qur'an are alive
3. Companions know how to read already wrote what they heard from the prophet
@@ziadyasser341 Quran revealed specially for Arabs surah 42 verse 7 not for non Arab people
Finally a face to the name I keep hearing about on speakers corner 😎
By the way what time is more convenient to go to speakers corner ? Thanks
Deuteronomy 6:4 ►
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.Despite the different names, both Allah and Elohim are believed to be the same, all-powerful, all-knowing, and merciful God.
I read in an article that Dead Sea scrolls supports Samaritan theology than that of Jewish theology. Such as, the Dead Sea scroll confirms mount Grezim as the location of first temple, not the Mount Moriah or the Temple Mount in Jerusalem . Samaritan theology doesn’t consider Jerusalem as a holy city. Can you discuss the differences between Samaritan and Jewish theology?
i hope allah guide bart ehrmann to the truth. This man did a lot of work
I invite you to read the quran again, but with a critical mindset. You'll see it's man-made.
God challenged you to replicate the Qur'an. Just try. Nothing about it is man made. @@jesan733
@@jesan733
I suggest read ur bible
And it's common sense that it's not from God
Example
Letter of Paul
According to John
According to Matthew
(See name of people
And the worst is they are unknown and no chain of narrator)😂😂😂
Translate this translate that
Unlike Quran which author by God
Allah said he will protect it from corruption and a Hadith with known chain of narrator
I suggest study the mathematical structure of Quran and u will know it will not be made by certain man in desert
Thank you Paul and Bart!
🐱👍🏿
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂
Wow, you got Bart Ehrman on, that’s amazing
Thanks!
Many thanks!
May Allah Reward you ..Paul sir ... .
Nasir clinical psychologist
What is you clinical psychologist opinion of people who believe in islam vs ex-muslims?
Barakallahu feek our brother ❤
Bart is making a very good point at 3:48.
Very informative and insightful video 🙏
Love both of u, may Allah swt grant more strength to both of u Ameen
The main difference is that you can say that there are differences in Jewish and Christian texts...... and no one will threaten or try to take your life.
Well that's not entirely true 😂
@@jameswright... ok - today in the 21st Century - which mainstream Christian group makes statements promising murder in case of questioning the religion (apart from a few barking mad Americans). We'll set that against the Christians being murdered in Africa as we speak.... and not forgetting the Yezidi Christian girls who were burned alive while locked in a cage for refusing to convert to Islam. Oh and the new laws in Afghanistan requiring windows to be blocked up to prevent "indecency" if a man should be able to see a woman peeling potatoes.
I ship this collab so much, Paul and Bert look similar and around same age same background in theology and a merger between the 2 should be called Paul Ehrman
Bert a legend of textual analysis
You're an inspiration Paul.
Beste broeder Paul moge.allah.swt.je.rijkelijk.beloonen voor het.verspreiden.van.islam in.voor.je eerlijkheid
Much obliged.
Mr. Paul I think you should have a discussion with Pr. Raymond Farrin about the composition of the Qur'an. It would be very interesting.
2 smart guys, but 1 smart guy finding the truth and find his peace since he believe there is another life after this worldly life and another smart guy probably still searching. But life is short, we don't want to end up regret later since no coming back after we die.
2 guys. Both without a clue
@@TheRastacabbageUr without clue
@@Dont-worry1618 here's a clue. Both these guys are wrong
@@TheRastacabbage Here is a clue u don’t know and don’t have proof what they are saying is wrong, or at least muslim
@@Dont-worry1618 islam is the proof. Mo is the proof
PEACE BE UPON OUR CURRENT DAY LEADER, TEACHER, AND GUIDE,APOSTLE GINO JENNINGS .
This is the true academic lecture by scholars
Interesting video. All this proves that is that there wasn't a singular version of Christianity like current Christians say but a diverse group of Christianities. And out of all of them, one group "won" and became mainstream Christianity, regardless of whether it was based on Jesus AS's true teachings or not. And then this version of mainstream Christianity changed and created its own off-shoots.
Yes, and one offshoot is called "islam".
May Allah guide Bart Ehrman to the truth & accept Islam Insha-Allah
Dr. Bart closed his heart and mind to thinking, so it was very difficult for him to believe in the existence of God.
Amen, I have sent him the Qur'an let's c if he is the seeker of the TRUTH as claimed in his book Forged.
Ameen
@user-wc7ku7ud3e He literally learned a dead language to be able to read the most direct source he could find. I somehow doubt you have done anything near that difficult in the pursuit of truth.
@@Stabsdagoblin Research and conduct studies and become an atheist? Whoever has a mind does not become an atheist. Whoever researches will reach the truth. My dear, I consider any atheist a person who does not think.
Truth will only reach the sincere. Simple and plain.
Please try get Dr Steve Mason on to talk about Jospehus and Luke-Acts
احب أسلوب هذا الرجل و اتمنى له التوفيق
in the end script still need credible chain of narration to prove it.
There are no credible chains of narration.
@1:32 why would they destroy the original manuscript even if they made the perfect copy ? unless... 🤔
Things wear out.
Its a 1000 years after Moses even the earliest bible found is 300 years after Jesus
Posting to show my appreciation. Thx to all. 🎉
The dead sea scrolls are a record of the religious beliefs that existed in a local area of ancient Palestine.
I've been watching this channel for the last 5 to 6 months, I've been a Muslim since the age 22 23.
We went more interviews with D .Bart Ehrman ❤
Thanks for you 👍👍
One does not see any prophet hood established until Gilgamesh but springing up of organized religious institutionalized government is evident from Gilgamesh period which is the first point in human history, declaring of the ruler to be the representative of forces of nature was the common practice so that people could be controlled and their faith could be established in the house of rulers. As generally people feared the forces of nature.
The epic is a fictional poem containing numerous mythological elements, such as gods, supernatural beings, and fantastical adventures, besides s3x between the gods.
The story is structured as an epic poem, is not historical, but with a focus on themes like friendship, the quest for immortality, and the human condition.
It is not the establishment of priesthood or a religious document outlining observances.
Trusting the Epic of Gilgamesh to be any more authoritative for religious purposes than the Lord of the Rings, is to believe that The DaVinci Code is an interpretive key to the Jewish scriptures.
It's pretty clear with Church writings, as with many other writings from history, the winners get to write the history, and losers writings are often destroyed.
Paul and Bart are blinkered. The original source or version of a text is not what’s important, it’s the content that’s important and whether, psychologically, it works or not. The reason Christianity is in decline is precisely because it hasn’t changed since the Middle Ages. As Carl Jung said:
“To be sure ‘Christ’ gave the myth a new meaning for the man of antiquity. But when we still go on stressing the newness 2000 years later, we must point out what exactly is the news for us, which we haven’t yet heard and understood.”
Yes, it’s interesting and useful to see how and why a text has changed since it was first written down but ultimately what matters is - can you understand its meaning and is the message relevant or not. If Bart (with the the aid of a Time Machine) had the original Gospels in his possession with the ink still wet, he still wouldn’t understand what Christianity is about.
Bart’s portrayal of early Christian diversity is misleading too because he fails to understand the psychology of religion. Carl Jung describes it better when he describes it thus:
“Christianity really arose from the spirit of Gnosticism, but came into conflict with it later, because the Gnostics threatened to dissolve Christianity with their philosophical speculations.” ~Carl Jung, ETH Lecture V. Page 162.
It was the spirit of Gnosticism that give rise to the diversity of Christian thought.
Thank you, interesting as usual
Glad you enjoyed it
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Amazing video, brother Paul.
May Allah guide mr. Ehtman to the truth.
Do an interview with Ibn Warraq on his book Which Koran. That would be beneficial as well. I am fascinated by his tremendous work!
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DSS convinced me that the Gospel writers and even Paul were Essenes, Philo mentions a group who also were the essenes, but had a different name
So gospel writers were basically converted christans but belonged to Jewish sect ? According to you , just asking I'm a Muslim btw
@@kashmalabangash6134so they were this Jewish sect, they believed Baptism was a way of initiation, they followed a guy 150 years before Jesus known as the teacher of righteousness, who had 12 men in his counsel one of them betrayed him, they used phrases like sons of light sons of darkness, they said things like this generation shall not pass till so and so is fufilled, but the time u get to Jesus these Essenes 150 years ago obviously would have children and grandchildren who started delving into Greek works and learning the language etc, they believe the temple was in the body they hated the Pharisees and referred to them as brute vipers, u find these things in the Gospels a lot, and we don't hear about them after the destruction of the temple, Jospehus mentions them but we didn't know much about them, they were a mystic apocalyptic movement similar to Paul and Mark
@@kashmalabangash6134the truth is i believe they heard about Jesus they of course had access to Jesus sayings and they put their own theology in it, literary mimesis was a think back then, putting words into peoples mouth too, just like a play or a movie
@@youtubeaccount3230 sometimes i think they were philosophers themselves and of course not someone simple bcz imagine playing with holy words and causing harm to next generations bcz they'll believe it is something not easy but they as usual couldn't stretch out it perfectly bcz philosophy itself plays with one mind you might confuse your unconscious, subconscious and conscious thoughts whilst sharing thoughts based on philosophy and instead of something super beautiful and authentic you will spill illogic and unrelated things that's what Quran also says about them and mostly Quran sees them as half knowledgeable philosophers and stuff who for the sake of popularity ( so that people might find it more interesting and would buy them leading a great profit to their business)combined their thoughts with the true teachings revealed by Allah ( according to Muslim perspective)
Ya Muqallib al-quloob thabbit qalbi 'ala deenik
يَا مُقَلِّبَ الْقُلُوبِ ثَبِّتْ قَلْبِى عَلَى دِينِكَ
“O Controller of hearts, make my heart firm in Your religion.”
It is sunnah to recite {Subhaanal-Malikil-Quddus} 3 times after the Witr prayer, while elongating the words in the third time.
سُبْحَانَ الْمَلِكِ الْقُدُّوسِ
Subhaanal-Malikil-Quddus,
Subhaanal-Malikil-Quddus,
Subhaanal-Malikil-Qudduuuuuuuus
(or Subhaaaaanal-Malikil-Quddus).
Sunan an-Nasa’i 1729
I found Bart's videos a couple of years ago. Bart became my favorite author when I studied, over twenty years.
The Snake and the Worm
Jesus was to be lifted up like the serpent. There are two appearances, within the same generation - the sacrifice followed by the resurrection.
YHWH judged the gods - who neither know nor understand, wandering about in darkness - and became the snake - thus fulfilling the law.
Adam, the Christ, wields the fiery sword, judges the earth, and becomes a worm - thus fulfilling the law.
(Are they) unjust, humanly speaking, to inflict his wrath?
Of course not! For how else (are they) to judge… ?
And why not say-- as we are accused and as some claim we say--
that we should do evil that good may come of it?
Their penalty is what they deserve. (Rom 3:5-8 NABO)
The gods will be measured against the judgment (sacrifice) by Adam. YHWH is without measure.
Peace be unto you is this full episode for paying only? Or is this a only for those in the inner blogging theology circle!? FROM The South Bronx NYC THE NEW AL FANDALUS
Bart Ehrman looks like an older brother of Paul. Quite identical in looks. 😆
Subhan Allah the Quran says that the people after Jesus differed on opinion about him and here comes Bart Ehrman to say the same 1450 years later.
Dead Sea Scrolls are Farce and work of Hebrew Trolls and has no authenticity because Original Bible was in Aramaic & not Hebrew which those Scroll planters forgot to realise 😂😂😂
Allah says the Quran has been changed and updated 👇
Quran 16:101
👉When We replace a verse with another👈-and Allah knows best what He reveals-they say, “You ˹Muḥammad˺ are just a fabricator.” In fact, most of them do not know.
Quran 2:106
👉If We ever abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten👈, 👉We replace it with a better or similar one👈. Do you not know that Allah is Most Capable of everything?
@@soniq351 - That Qur'an has been changed not by Man like other Books but Allah (swt) Himself.
Try something better.
@@imran4006
Great thank you!
Basically your Islanic Allah is not able to preserve the original version from the time of Mohamed but needs to replace and update. This indicates the human Quran author is trying to make up excuses for the Quran changing over time, example Uthman burning the other Qurans and for the fact there are still to this day dozens of different Quran versions available.
Your top Islamic scholars know this but they dont share it publicly, type "holes in the narrative Quran" on youtube as an example
Also, open your Quran, notice at the start of the Quran the versus are longer compared to the end of the Quran where the versus are smaller, this shows 2 main points-
1. Different style of construction of the texts = different authors
2. Quran clearly is not a miracle if it is not consistant
@@soniq351 - Verses are longer & shorter. So, that's the contradiction you found out??😂😂
See you have also written sentences in paragraph some of which are longer & shorter. So, does that mean 2 persons wrote those different paragraphs. 😂😂
where can i watch the full video
ua-cam.com/video/oeZrdgxi9bY/v-deo.htmlsi=AC1l6FcU-4K3lK_H
ua-cam.com/video/oeZrdgxi9bY/v-deo.htmlsi=I-lt3pGH6pAY_3de
Search for it under Bart Ehrman Blogging Theology you’ll find a video 1 hour 30 mins long
Thanks these categories laid by Bart should be used to Quran and Hadith also. Thanks 🙏🙏🙏 Bart.
It seems it's not the whole interview ❤
Finally, Christianity receives an honest treatment from a fearless and formidable intellectual. It only took 2000 years.
Why don't you post the full video?!
the full video is on his channel as well
@@JamalAdam455can you post the link, please? I can't find the video
@@medo_pg7786 just write Paul Williams and bart Herman and you will find the video
browse his podcast tab, around 2 years ago
@@medo_pg7786 You can literally just search for Ehrman's name on Paul's channel.
Odd argument from Bart about Isaias. It is almost identical to the one we have today. But we don’t know if it changed in the 800 years before the Dead Sea scrolls were written. Yet presumably the copies around today couldn’t use the Dead Sea scrolls to check their accuracy…..yet they are identical. The atheist seems to think heretic teachings are just as valid as the Church’s. Yet those heresies died out and the Church’s teachings continued.
How can we find a Hebrew translations of Isaiah 42?
Where is the full interview?
ua-cam.com/video/oeZrdgxi9bY/v-deo.htmlsi=I-lt3pGH6pAY_3de
Search for it under Bart Ehrman Blogging Theology you’ll find a video 1 hour 30 mins long
Thank you for this important examination. The Truth that Allah is the only God becomes even more evident to those who may still have any doubt.
The correct conclusion is that there is no god, or at least no god that makes himself known. Islam's claim of being the original faith has no support in archeology nor textual criticism. In fact it is refuted by what we know about the evolution of religion.
Wasn't Eusebius an Arian?
Cowboy hat Paul = based
I have a doubt.. His works are pro Islam/ supports the muqaddima of Islam or does it conflict with Islamic Dailoug.
I want to study his work but i don't know weather i would get information in favour of giving dawah to Christians or not...
Don't give dawah to christians. Do something useful instead. Learn engineering or medicine or something and then apply or teach that.
Very hypocritical from the Muslim gentleman. Bart’s arguments could be equally used against the Quran. You don’t have the original manuscripts of that either
Who won ?
It wasn't a debate.
The people who don’t ask this stupid question
Perhaps no way to know ... but we can extrapolate. The "Hebrew" bible was circumstancially adopted by the Jewish faith. the Jewish faith actually began during the reign of King Josiah, after KJ ordered his chief (pagan) priest to appropriately "restore" a manuscript of the Books of Moses that had been found hidden in Solomon's pagan-devolved Temple. What was actually produced was the JEWISH Faith, as devinely revealed from an ancient codex that had been "missing" for generations.
Does the Hebrew bible contain the books of Maccabees 1 and 2?
A confirmed, unrepentant pdffile and ‘prophet’ should NEVER be used in the same sentence.
Hi! @blogging theology ..Can u do a video explaining about the Book of Mormon
Why would you ask a Muslim to explain a book from another religion?
Because Paul has studied various religions, and he is also a former Christian@@georgiacap9294
Bart Earman is great. You should listen to the Bart Earmans of Islam 😉 You’ll learn even more 😁
I would love bart to have told us how the differences in Jeremiah or the other books affect the stories or meaning.
I suspect it doesn't affect the story or meaning in any way and that is why he doesn't mention anything about it.
The differences are probably just altering text as language evolves.
For example I'm fairly sure the English translation is longer again but it doesn't alter the meaning from earlier copies.
جَزَى اللَّهُ عَنَّا مُحَمَّدًا صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ مَا هُوَ أَهْلُهُ❤❤
جَزَى اللَّهُ عَنَّا مُحَمَّدًا صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ مَا هُوَ أَهْلُهُ❤❤
جَزَى اللَّهُ عَنَّا مُحَمَّدًا صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ مَا هُوَ أَهْلُه❤❤
I'm Muslim Paul can u talk about Canaanite religion and is this yhwh name of god? If so why does Historians says it's one of lesser Canaanite Deity?
Yhwh not really god's name. I heard of jew said that the name of god is so pure and secret, they are not allow to pronounce it. Yhwh is like "he" refer to god without saying his name. The word yhwh is not really from torah , i forgot where the word came from.
@@yanievarina9212 jews says it's too sacred to pronounce yhwh I get it then why historians says it's one of lesser Canaanite Deity name if God said to Moses I never revealed this name before u then why Canaanite religion has this name before Moses
@@Dark_Angel4474if I'm not mistaken the Canaanites had a God in their Pantheon of gods named "El". I don't know that the tetragrammaton was ever seen in a Canaanite context.
Not Bart Ehrman's best performance.
What if heretics ARE malicious? Like, why would you try to falsify God's teachings, except for bad intentions? I mean, could Jesus Christ be any clearer that there would be false teachings.
(With which I do not want to say that the Nicene creed and the surviving big churches are the ones that necessarily represent the correct teachings - in fact, I would deny that.)
Problem is that everybody are heretics, because there's no true faith. It's all made up. Of course those who deliberately change or add to the previously made-up body of belief are doing so for reasons, but they don't have to be malicious, although they're usually selfish in some sense.
Would have been great to hear an answer to the second part of the final question. What I find baffling is how are scholars such as BE not seduced by Islam when all the issues he has discovered in Christanity are absent in a comparatively flawless narrative free of inconsistency
He used to be a Christian pastor. He has trust issue now. This is the reason Christian become Atheist although In Bart Ehrman case there is still hope because he is still a theist but refuse to be a Christian ever since he started digging into the authenticity of Gospels. He discovered huge holes 🕳️ a book without Author becomes an idea, a point of view. For ex: you had Unitarians Christian who read same Bible and come up with polar opposite opinion. Point of View.
If you compare deeply with understanding, you'll see that islam is a shallow copy of christianity with added errors and misunderstandings of original motifs and stories. That's why. So while Bart knows Christianity is false, he understands that Islam is even more so.
@@jesan733 No you can't look at Islam as a simply a book. You have to look at as a whole. Bart is only interested in Christianity I do not think he looked at Islam as a whole. Question I would ask is what did the man who made claim gain from it? I mean follow the money. Did he got rich from spreading a message? Was it about money? Did he died rich? Did he had offers? Why cause civil war over it? Most importantly what was his message? If you go by something being old then Hinduism is the oldest religion. Get this they have Trimurti the triune God theory. So the Trinity is not a new concept get it and Bart must know this. You can say Islam is a stand alone religion but historically Ishmael were the Arabs this fact is undeniable fact. Bart want Christianity to be what Islam is therefore he is only interested in Christianity. Name me a religion that accept Jesus other then ISLAM? BTW science doesn't support Virgin birth if Islam was not putting his neck out Christianity would be debunk just on science facts. 🤔🤔🤔
@@kashkash9244 I don't have to look at islam as a whole. If the quran is man-made, and it is, then the religion is not truth but made up. And then I don't have to look further.
There's no "undeniable fact" that "Ishmael were the Arabs". That's just a story.
Muhammad became the centre of everyone's attention and respect by creating the religion, and he got the women he wanted. He was rich in the same manner as Putin is. Putin doesn't need any money on his bank account, because he can command the entire economy.
@@jesan733 off course you won't look at Islam as a whole. Who said you will. People at the time didn't either so you won't be the first and certainly won't be the last. Thank God no inquisition in Islam unlike Christianity. No compulsion, only verbal messages. So I would say there is the door. Keep walking.
These men make things so complicated. If we are imperfect beings and God still allows us to breathe this means our God is good and if he is good he should be trusted. Just because a scroll came in less or more or accurate or not does not show that God is incomplete but that we are incompetent
Dead Sea scrolls were only fragmented manuscripts preserved in those jars in that cave. The nation Israel is credited with preserving the OT scrolls by copying them under the strictest rules or standards. Dead sea scrolls perhaps were individual owned copies. But the most important thing with those Dead Sea scrolls, they were accurate copies of the preserved copies from the originals. Dead Sea scrolls therefore served as strong evidence of the preservation of copies from the originals.
Dead Sea scroll doesn't match the bible we have today. This what Bart Ehrman is saying, there is a contradiction. There are things in today bible that are not in Dead Sea scroll. There are things in Dead Sea scroll that are not in today's bible. If Dead Sea scrolls are the oldest then people have to abandon today's bible and adapt Dead Sea scrolls. A decision Church Father refuse they only accept what aligns with their view. Ex: Gospel of Thomas discarded, Book of Enoch discarded. Are they not inspired word? Who decide it Men?
@@kashkash9244 Folks never understood how the OT manuscripts were preserved. The nation Israel was in charge of preserving the OT manuscripts by copying them under the strictest rules or standards. The evidence for it is the Greek translation (sometime in 250 BC during Ptolemy's reign) of the OT known as the Septuagint. Therefore, there was a complete copy of the Manuscripts both Hebrew and Greek before the Qumran scrolls were discovered. It is just absurd those Qumran scrolls which were not under the keeping of Israel would serve as the standard manuscripts. It is apparent they were fragmented scrolls individually owned or kept generally by Israel, but were kept in the caves due to wars for preservation if in case. One should take not there was not only one copy made for the manuscripts keeping in danger of its preservation. The scribes worked full time copying every day the Manuscripts.
@@kashkash9244A contradiction would be, stating a fact occurred, vs. stating the same fact did not occur.
A contradiction is not a change in chapter order or different phraseology to convey the exact same message.
Nor is a contradiction differences in punctuation and spelling, of which is the majority of textual changes throughout the Bible.
Here is better list of Dead Sea Scrolls, as kept and added to, by the Qumran community:
Great Isaiah Scroll (1QIsa): Contains the entire Book of Isaiah.
Second Isaiah Scroll (1QIsa): Another copy of portions of Isaiah.
Habakkuk Commentary (1QpHab): A pesher (commentary) on the Book of Habakkuk.
Genesis Apocryphon (1QapGen): An expanded narrative of parts of Genesis.
Sectarian Texts
Community Rule (1QS): Describes the rules and beliefs of the Qumran community.
War Scroll (1QM): Details an apocalyptic battle between the Sons of Light and the Sons of Darkness.
Thanksgiving Hymns (1QH): A collection of hymns and prayers, Apocryphal and Pseudepigraphal Texts
Book of Tobit: A narrative about Tobit’s piety and adventures.
Wisdom of Ben Sira (Sirach): A collection of ethical teachings.
Epistle of Jeremiah: A letter attributed to the prophet Jeremiah.
Other Notable Manuscripts:
Temple Scroll: Describes an idealized temple and its regulations.
Copper Scroll: Lists hidden treasures.
Songs of the Sabbath Sacrifice: Liturgical texts for Sabbath worship.
Of course, it doesn't perfectly match the accepted masoretic text, it has too many biased and unnecessary inclusions.
@@kashkash9244Additionally, I've read both the Book of Thomas and Book of Enoch. They are way off the beaten path to include. If you include them you might as well include anything else that was ever written, no matter how untruthful or or fanciful.
@@claromagallanes2877Exactly. Even Bartthe atheist knows that.
Also, the scribes worked off a Master manuscript that upon creation was rigorously examined under complex copying requirements before approval and singley used until it wore down necessitating another laborious creation of another Master.
Multiple Masters were made and transferred to heads of synagogues and churches for use.
The Scribes outside of Jerusalem could not control the subsequent normal distributed copies from the Master made outside their region of authority.
Regardless, everyone involved in copying had a very high and solemn view of the work they were engaged in ( it was a professional job) because it was after all God's word, and nobody wanted to be responsible for altering it.
Edit: Amazing that we have so much textual evidence, when Christianity was a forbidden sect by both the Jewish and Romans for a couple hundred years and every scripture or Bible found in Christians possesion were destroyed.
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@10:48
Antioch is not in Syria but in Turkey closest to the northern Syrian border. It is now known as Antakya.
It was part of Syria until 1938.
Syria doesn't recognise Turkish occupation.
Inform yourself, read history.
Wow Bart, talk about overstatement! I really don't understand why Bart devotes his life to something he doesn't believe. What strikes me are all the people who think this stuff is new or revelatory. Any Bible college or any study for that matter will expose you to these things. We know about the Gnostics etc., we also know that they do not represent the orthodox faith and here I side with my Greek orthodox brothers and sisters.
Could someone tell me if Dr Ehrman discusses JESUS, theBIBLE and CHRISTIANITY? How would anybody know by watching this!
Well the word bible is mentioned and new testament but this is a small clip from a larger interview.
It's comparing the difference between the scrolls and later versions.
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