The 54-S is the best chipping club I've ever played. I'm switching back to that this year after using 54-D last year. I'm also going with the M grind in my lob, but just debating between 58 and 60 degrees.
I personally am a huge fan of the S Grind as well. I actually bought the SM9's in a D grind but they were not a good fit for me. Too much bounce, especially with my lob wedge.
@@ryanjacobsongolf7845 pretty good mix of both depending on the quality of the course. This will be for fluffy and well maintained sand for sure with 14 bounce
@@ryanjacobsongolf7845 gamed it first time yesterday and was very pleased. Feels like cheating out of the bunker( neutral) Also performed well from rough and flop shots around the green.
Great review! I use both in the 60* depending on turf conditions. Also I’m interested Iin getting ( or making ) the new SM 10 V grind. Which is basically a T grind formed into a V. New subscriber here. Cheers from New Hampshire 🇺🇸
That's awesome! I bet the courses in that area change a good bit through the year. I haven't gotten to try the T grind yet. That's awesome you can make that grind yourself. Send a pic when you do it, I want to see. I'm getting ready to order some T100 irons. I've been playing ping s55's for almost 12 years now. I'm just debating if I want to combo some t150's in my lower irons. I'll play them a long time so I don't really need t150's now but in a few years I'm sure it will help. Thanks for commenting and sharing your perspective! Have a great day!
I find the S digs more than the M. These wedges don’t show actual bounce, it’s “effective” bounce. The middle of a M grind has way more than 8 degrees. YMMV.
The S is ten degrees bounce with a tiny bit of relief on the back edge if we open the face, and the M has eight with relive ground off the toe and heel.
@@darrinlygrisse5287the M and D grinds are very similar. The D just has slightly more toe and heal relief and has 12 degrees of bounce. The M has 8 degrees of bounce. I highly doubt Titleist is gonna make clubs that are off by 4 degrees
They give you “effective bounce “ for marketing reasons. It’s not a real world number, it’s based on playing characteristics. Not actual static measurements. Fact.
Hi! It's hard to say without knowing how you strike your chips and pitches. I will say that if you have a grind/bounce that is good for you in general, it will work. I like having slightly different bounces in my wedges so I can play different lies. What I would suggest is if your in gnarly long fringe open the face a little. When you're in the rough it will grab the hozel and want to shut the face. Open your wedge a bit so it won't grab as much and you can be aggressive and use the bounce of the club to get through it.
Hello Chris! Yeah, I have the M grind lob wedge and S Grind 56 degree. I tried using their D grind prior, and it was too much bounce and pretty difficult for me to use around the green.
Hey , I’m about to order two wedges , I play links courses mainly what grind would be best for links course . I’m going for a 52 which I want for 120 yards in . Then I’m going for a 58 degree for 80 yards in but unsure which grind to have for Links golf
@craigjames1355 that's awesome. General rule is for firm courses lower bounce. It's tough because how we play as golfers is a big factor but you won't go wrong with a f grind standard bounce and the M grind in the 58 is a good balance. It has some bounce but should work great on firm conditions. I hope you like your new wedges. New clubs are the best!
I know this is 5 months now and you probably got your wedges already, but if you can’t or rather not get fitted into your wedges, the best thing is to use their wedge tool on the website. The generator should give you a good idea of what should be best for you, assuming you answer the questions accurately. Also there’s a breakdown of all the grinds and what they are best suited for
Hi, the wedge tool does a decent job. It's definitely not perfect and a big part of wedge play is half shots and around the green playing with bounce. Ideally, people could get fit on real grass at a chipping green with 50 yard and in shots but that's very rare.
So hows the s grind more explained like green side bunkers open face full shots is it pretty good i odered a s in 56 and 60 in t grind for alot of face manipulation
Good question, I typically use my 56-degree S Grind out of bunkers. It's really forgiving and consistent. It's definitely easier to hit consistently than my M grind out of bunkers. I haven't gotten to hit the T grind yet. Let me know how it is.
M has 8 degrees of bounce S has 10 degrees of bounce. The M will dig more since it has less bounce and also has the sole grinded off so you don't add bounce when you open the face
Everyone can have an opinion. When I hit shots with these different wedges, I noticed big differences. I mean, the bounce differences alone are a big deal.
Hey, thank you for the feedback. I just looked at the video and saw what you mean. I'll incorporate that in my next wedge session for sure. Have a great day!
The 54-S is the best chipping club I've ever played. I'm switching back to that this year after using 54-D last year. I'm also going with the M grind in my lob, but just debating between 58 and 60 degrees.
I personally am a huge fan of the S Grind as well. I actually bought the SM9's in a D grind but they were not a good fit for me. Too much bounce, especially with my lob wedge.
Just bought SM9 54-S and 58-K excited to put them in play. Really need the added confidence from the bunker so went with K instead of M .
I haven't hit the k grind yet. Let me know how it goes. Is The sand light or more like dirt where I'm from in AZ?
@@ryanjacobsongolf7845 pretty good mix of both depending on the quality of the course. This will be for fluffy and well maintained sand for sure with 14 bounce
@@ryanjacobsongolf7845 gamed it first time yesterday and was very pleased. Feels like cheating out of the bunker( neutral) Also performed well from rough and flop shots around the green.
Great review! I use both in the 60* depending on turf conditions.
Also I’m interested Iin getting ( or making ) the new SM 10 V grind. Which is basically a T grind formed into a V.
New subscriber here. Cheers from New Hampshire 🇺🇸
That's awesome! I bet the courses in that area change a good bit through the year. I haven't gotten to try the T grind yet. That's awesome you can make that grind yourself. Send a pic when you do it, I want to see. I'm getting ready to order some T100 irons. I've been playing ping s55's for almost 12 years now. I'm just debating if I want to combo some t150's in my lower irons. I'll play them a long time so I don't really need t150's now but in a few years I'm sure it will help. Thanks for commenting and sharing your perspective! Have a great day!
Amazing video I just the sm9 10s yesterday I got 1050 spin the ball rolls back when I hit it on the green
New wedges are the best! Have fun with them!
I find the S digs more than the M. These wedges don’t show actual bounce, it’s “effective” bounce. The middle of a M grind has way more than 8 degrees. YMMV.
The S is ten degrees bounce with a tiny bit of relief on the back edge if we open the face, and the M has eight with relive ground off the toe and heel.
If you measure the M with a protractor it’s more like 12 actual.
Interesting, 4 degrees of bounce is a big difference. The D grind has 12 degrees of bounce, and it's very noticeable from the M grind
@@darrinlygrisse5287the M and D grinds are very similar. The D just has slightly more toe and heal relief and has 12 degrees of bounce. The M has 8 degrees of bounce. I highly doubt Titleist is gonna make clubs that are off by 4 degrees
They give you “effective bounce “ for marketing reasons. It’s not a real world number, it’s based on playing characteristics. Not actual static measurements. Fact.
I use 54 S grind, 58 D grind and my best is the 60 L grind with 4 degrees of bounce
Thank you for sharing. That's an interesting gapping. Do you carry a gap wedge?
yes my gap wedge is F Grind 48, PW is 43
Hi...I'm looking for a 50 or 54 wedge/grind that can help me get through gnarly long fringe... I have an SM8 58 12 D grind
Hi! It's hard to say without knowing how you strike your chips and pitches. I will say that if you have a grind/bounce that is good for you in general, it will work. I like having slightly different bounces in my wedges so I can play different lies. What I would suggest is if your in gnarly long fringe open the face a little. When you're in the rough it will grab the hozel and want to shut the face. Open your wedge a bit so it won't grab as much and you can be aggressive and use the bounce of the club to get through it.
So you have a lob wedge M grind?
Hello Chris! Yeah, I have the M grind lob wedge and S Grind 56 degree. I tried using their D grind prior, and it was too much bounce and pretty difficult for me to use around the green.
Hey , I’m about to order two wedges , I play links courses mainly what grind would be best for links course . I’m going for a 52 which I want for 120 yards in . Then I’m going for a 58 degree for 80 yards in but unsure which grind to have for Links golf
When you say links are you in Europe? For the 52, I would suggest the F grind. The 58 M grind is really nice and has 8 degrees of bounce.
Thank you for the reply that really helps . I play in Cornwall Perranporth in the UK and Newquay mainly both links so thanks for the advice
@craigjames1355 that's awesome. General rule is for firm courses lower bounce. It's tough because how we play as golfers is a big factor but you won't go wrong with a f grind standard bounce and the M grind in the 58 is a good balance. It has some bounce but should work great on firm conditions. I hope you like your new wedges. New clubs are the best!
I know this is 5 months now and you probably got your wedges already, but if you can’t or rather not get fitted into your wedges, the best thing is to use their wedge tool on the website. The generator should give you a good idea of what should be best for you, assuming you answer the questions accurately. Also there’s a breakdown of all the grinds and what they are best suited for
Hi, the wedge tool does a decent job. It's definitely not perfect and a big part of wedge play is half shots and around the green playing with bounce. Ideally, people could get fit on real grass at a chipping green with 50 yard and in shots but that's very rare.
So hows the s grind more explained like green side bunkers open face full shots is it pretty good i odered a s in 56 and 60 in t grind for alot of face manipulation
Good question, I typically use my 56-degree S Grind out of bunkers. It's really forgiving and consistent. It's definitely easier to hit consistently than my M grind out of bunkers. I haven't gotten to hit the T grind yet. Let me know how it is.
According to the Titleist charts his comment that the M will dig more than the S is backward ...
M has 8 degrees of bounce S has 10 degrees of bounce. The M will dig more since it has less bounce and also has the sole grinded off so you don't add bounce when you open the face
Effective bounce not actual. From my experience the S digs more in reality. The middle of the M has more like 12 to 14.
More marketing crap that 99.999% of golfers will never notice on the course.
Everyone can have an opinion. When I hit shots with these different wedges, I noticed big differences. I mean, the bounce differences alone are a big deal.
You stand a little too far from the ball. If you check how Pete Cowen explains the momentum of the club you understand why! Good luck!
Hey, thank you for the feedback. I just looked at the video and saw what you mean. I'll incorporate that in my next wedge session for sure. Have a great day!
@@ryanjacobsongolf7845 you make it harder than you need to. Im a coach so not bullshitting you.
I didn't think you were. I see what you mean, and I'm gonna incorporate that in my next wedge session.
Just pulled up his channel. Looks like so much good info. Now I'll be going down the rabbit hole for the next few hours haha
@@ryanjacobsongolf7845 haha. Yes Cowen is the guru!!