John Cowsill Was Fired from The Beach Boys Touring Group?
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2023
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In this video I'll talk more about the most recent news concerning the Beach Boys touring group led by Mike Love. Scott Totten and John Cowsill both left the group this spring. John states on his Facebook page, that he was indeed actually let go by The Beach Boys (Mike?), because they want to "change things up".
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The so called Beach Boys Mike Love leads is the Beach boys 'no danger to Mike's ego' band.
They sing the same songs but they are not Beach Boys. This Mike Love's dream of a band playing nothing but the goldie oldies. It's Dennis and Carl's nightmare come true.
John also had the best voice, he sang all those Carl Wilson songs and he was great at it.
Very true and a great keyboardists too
Cowsills are one the best Harmonizing family more or less a group❤🎼🎶🎵
I would rather see John Cowsill than Mike Love. 🙄
I just met John Cowsill recently! He’s a lovely person and a fantastic musician.
Indeed!
It's hard to hear that, John Cowsill is one of the best drummers, I'm a great Cowsills' fan too
No doubt. That was apparent when John was 12.
@@alangray9117 He is a great singer as well.
@@1401minstrel oh for sure. ❤
Maybe it happened for him and not to him!!,
John Cowsill was why I listened to Beach Boys!
I love John Cowsill but detest Mike Love and John Stamos.
Hope this will result in John working with Susan and the rest of his still living siblings.
He has no plans to at the moment (or at least no plans to do so full-time), according to his Facebook posts and comments.
Susan's husband is her drummer.
@@kirk2269 when they play on the "happy together" tour, there is just a standard house band and they play for every group. He could play those shows with his siblings if he wanted to.
Him or Susan's husband.
He will spend more time with Action Skulls and his wife.
John and Scott were fired so Mike Love could bring in people Mike could pay less money to. They're the reason people went to see them, they were more popular than Mike. This came from someone I know close to Scott. This is the story. They both gave 23 years. Most of us fans will no longer go to see them anymore. Jeff passed away just awhile back.
Makes sense + loves ego totally BS no more fake BB copy band with Love involved
I went to one of their gigs to hear The Beach Boys, sorry.. Didn't even know the drummer was a Cowsill till now.
Money sounds like The true reason
Hell I heard John singing darling with Beach boys. The best I've heard since Carl died. You have to have a range to sing that song.. besides John's a hell of a drummer. He can play or sing with anybody he wants. And John gets along with everybody, has a very mellow temperament.. it seams there are quite a few musicians, Mike love don't get along with .. best of luck with your future endeavors John.
nicely stated great drummer Mike Love is a JERK anyway
Proof again of Mike Loves one of rock and rolls "biggest AH" google top AH in rock and roll his name comes up all the time
I hope John will play with the Cowsills more often now he is no longer with the Beach Boys touring band. The Cowsills have had somewhat of a resurgence since the Family Band documentary came out.
John Cowsill ROCKS.
I hope Johns leaving results in more touring of Action Skulls with his wife Vicki Peterson, and Bill Mumy
That would be awesome!
or he rejoins the cowsills!!!
Saw The Beach Boys years ago, Mike Love comments turned my wife and myself totally off. John Cowsill is a beautiful, talented musician, from a family of totally talented musicians.
i heard about John Cowsill leaving the group. (BTW, he's a great great drummer). BUT, I didn't know Scott Totten also left. The band will NOT be the same without him. He's the reason why The Beach Boys concerts are so authentic sounding. He became their musical director. and the 50th anniversary concert wouldn't have sounded so good without him. I think it's a bad choice letting them go.
John Cowsill is an awesome drummer. Wondered why he left. Thanks for posting. 👍
According to John Cowsill, he was fired.
Saw the Cowsills recently in Texas and they touched on this. Said John might do some dates with them on band dates ( our show was a small listening room venue with no band) but he and his wife were working on a project so don’t expect him to be a Cowsill full time.
Sorry to see John and Scott gone. I've had personal interactions with Mike Love when I was a member of the working media. I'll never pay to see his version of the Beach Boys tour. As much as John was a good drummer and vocalist, he started as a keyboard player. He moved to the drums when Mike Kowalski was "let go" for the same reason as John being let go. Mike K was a great drummer. After watching some videos of the new drummer, he reminds me a lot of Dennis Wilson. It's sad to see those two let go for a lame reason and that reason not being evident with the newer lineup. I've seen Brian's tour several times and Al Jardine as well. I will definitely go see Brian and Al perform. You are right those that attend Mike Love's Beach Boys concert are there for the nostalgia of the music and not the THE BEACH BOYS. Most people who attend don't realize that Mike Love is the only original member in that band, a long with Bruce Johnston who's been a long time member but is not an original member. Nothing against Bruce I think he does a great job
100 % agree feel the same will never go to this copy fake BB band especially with Love involved he blew it and really treated Brian poorly back in the day and squeezed him financially hoodwinking Brian into adding his name to writing a few big hit songs when he hardly or did squat.
I was happy John Cowsill had such a great gig. I am sorry that he is not there. I wish him all the best. This was not about changing things up but rather internal politics, most likely, John Stamos had some role. It seems John Cowsill has some bucks from his Beach Boy days so that is cool. I saw Al Jardine's Beach Boys who with Matt, his son, and Carney and Wendy Wilson I liked Al's Beach Boys more than Mike Love's Beach Boys.
John Cowsill is an excellent drummer, pianist, vocalist and song writer. I personally think the BB blew it by firing him. Mike Love is probably the reason.
Agree john stole the show love needs the attention as top dog
Wouldn't watch Mike Love if he was playing at the end of my driveway for free....
John Cowsill is the Best drummer
You make a lot of good points.
The Beach Boys per se were the group that made the name famous. Once Mike and Brian went their separate ways, aside from the 2013 reunion, they only live in the archives.
Mike Love ended up with the Beach Boys name and can do whatever he wants. Many (of us) are not fond of Mike, but he was often the lead vocalist and and had his share of writing credits so he is not to be dismissed. I set aside my feelings for the guy and we did enjoy a show years back (Foskett, Cowsill, Toten et al) and it was a fun evening with good energy. It was more of a garage band sound compared to performances of Brian's band, but the show, venue and setting made it memorable. At this point I wouldn't go out of my way to see what remains of this band.
Meanwhile, the legendary Brian Wilson band has been chipped away at. My first exposure was pre Lucky Old Sun. Brian was having an off night, but the band was phenomenal. He was in fine form for Lucky old Sun. We probably saw him 6 or so times since and along with his aging we saw the loss/departure of Mills, Bragg, Foskett, Bennett, Walusko, and intermittent Sahanaja. The show remained solid but ceased to be the original cast of much of Brian's solo work. With Brian's apparent retirement it's academic.
We got see Al Jardine with Matt, Probyn Wendy, Carnie and a band of Beach Boys supporting musicians and it was a really good evening.
Enjoy whatever is in town since soon the stage will belong to the tribute bands, which while not original, are not to be ignored. The music and feelings will endure.
I agree with you. I would most likely go see Mike's group if they'd come to my country, which is highly unlikely. Last time they were here, I believe in 2011, they couldn't sell enough tickets for the venue they were booked, so in last minute their gig was changed to a smaller outside festival happening. It was kind of embarrassing, but the truth is, people want to see a Wilson on stage. So there's probably no market for Mike's Beach Boys here.
check out Sail On- really good BB tribute- a couple of the guys are members of The Explorers Club a band that is a very good Brian Wilson influenced band
Feel the same way about Mr Love too bad Brian allowed the license to Love as he is ruining it now
Great video....I was one of the few here attending Beach Boy concerts back in the mid 60s...
Keep those good vibrations a happenen... my father's parents were born in Finland..en
No Wilsons, No Beach Boys!!!
John is in Brookly N.Y. for a year as far as I know. He is doing more work woth The Action Skulls, which is great. John seems very happy. Mike Love from what I heard isn't the easiest person to get along with and wants to constantly tour . John has toured with that control freak for 20 years. That would be more than enough for me credit to John. Plus John is 67 and is just a few days older than I. Im sure he must have had retirement from touring all the time. Its time for John to do what he wants to do when he wants to do it. He's spending more time with Vicky playing small gigs, a couple weeks ago with friends of his The Smitherines in C.A. Just recently with i'm not sure with who in Asbury Park N.J.. Also smaller venus around NYC area. I could care less about the Beach Boys Touring Band. John made pleanty of money playing with them. His daughter lives in Bay Ridge Brooklyn where he and Vicky are renting a flat for a year. Maybe more but they can work with Bill Mumy from anywhere. They just put out on Spotify an album of all summer songs which I love with The Action Skulls. I have been a fan of The Cowsills since I was 9 years old. I often what would have been if their Father wasn't a jackass squandering 20 million they made in their 4 top years. I would have loved to see them stay together. Billy and Bob did a lot of good writing when they were popular. I once found an article about the top ten worst band fathers. Bud wss number one or close to it with The Beach Boys father. I Just hope John and The Action Skulls do some Touring. He has not mentioned it. As long as he is happy doing what makes him happy I'm ok with it. However I would love to see him in persom before anything happens to either of us. I have been waiting decades. Not interested in seeing his siblings. Just him.
Agree with Mike Loves ego statement its true he needs to be the center stay away from Loves fake BB band.
I disagree slightly about the difference in ticket sales. The original Beach Boys fans who are feeling nostalgic also know the Cowsill name, and whether or not they were/are fans of the Cowsills, they may be at least curious to see John all grown up. That name still rings a bell with those of us who were around in the '60s, and I think it was still a draw for the Beach Boys touring group. Also, as has been said previously, John and Scott are both excellent musicians and, based on their work with the Beach Boys alone, were drawing a crowd. I think it will make a difference. At least that's true for me personally. I am John Cowsill's age and am both a Beach Boys fan and a Cowsills fan. I have never seen the Beach Boys touring group. They came to my area in June and a friend asked if I wanted to go. I said no because John was no longer with them.
Do not go to the "Fake BB Mike love band" we should all protest especially the way John and Scott even Brian and Al Mike love treated poorly by MR Love ego is a AH his path of behavior is well know in rock and roll circles.. To bad Brian signed the Beach Boy License to Mike love
Thanks for posting this. It is very interesting. I wish I had seen this earlier hen everyone was contemporaneously posting comments
Bought tickets only because I wanted to see John Cowsill! Was angry to find out John Cowsill & Scott Totten were let go! Was so happy to get refund for my tickets! I won’t be buying tickets to Mike Love’s and John Stamos concerts again!
ME TOO !!!!!!!😢
I've seen Mike Love fronting the Beach Boys in 3 concerts, approx 1983, 1984, 1987. His personality drags the fun down, a little in one concert, and a lot in 2 concerts. It's said his mother was an authoritarian control freak, and he inherited this trait from her. So, no more concerts for me if Mike Love is in it.
hopefully john rejoins the cowsills - maybe with his wife, vicky peterson, ex bangle!!
AAARRGGGHHHH!! I wanted to see John Cowsill, too! He's a LOT of why I decided to finally go see them this year.......It'll still be a good show (I think), but I am Pi$$ed now! Grrrrrr!!!
@@yarnkatcher JC should rejoin the cowsills!!!
I liked the line-up with Jeff Foskett. Scott Totten & John Cowsill. I pretended Jeff was Carl, Scott was Al, and John drummed quite a bit like Dennis.
John is the closest to Dennis. Fantastic drummer. 👍
Al is still with us.
Funny.
I liked the lineup with Brian, Carl, Dennis, Al and unfortunately Mike.
THOSE are the Beach Boys
@@whiteandright1958 And throw in David Marks
@@garyh1449 you are right. David belongs there
Thanks for the video. !!! I’m just lost for words. 😂
Totally agree with your hesitations regarding seeing Them and your mixed feelings. Feel the same way
I agree that Scott and John were an integral part of the group. I feel that they were fired to maybe bring new energy to the group. But, have they? Not yet at least. We will find out. Another factor may have been that Scott and John had become the focal points of the group. And Mike Love felt he no longer was the person people wanted to see anymore.
I was thinking the same thing.
@@georgeslone5071 Me too.
Probably what it is Mike's ego got deflated
That's laughable! Mike is a BEACH BOY.
John Cowsill is a fantastic musician; he basically learned the keyboards and vocals on group's entire stage show with 3 days' notice. But Bolton is the best addition to the band in memory- his energy, skills and vocals are fantastic. That's no slight at Cowsill- he can play and sing multiple instruments and parts.
I love John Cowsill! That makes me sad. I am a huge Brian Eichenberger fan and to me he is the most important member. His voice is spot on, he could be a Beach Boy.
Brian is great too!
Lost the best singer and drummer Mike Love screws up again
Great video. I am not personally a fan of the Beach Boys Touring Band, but if they came near me, I would go and see them. Hell! I'm a Beach Boys Fan!! (Now always and forever)
Yes I have seen Brian's band 212 times which includes the 50th mash up with Mike Love. I saw the original Beach 10 times ie. With Carl , Dennis one time with Brian , and of course Mike , and Al.
That should read 12 times lol , otherwise I funded Brian's retirement plan all by myself .
I love Al. He is so talented and I love his voice.
John and Scott became the heart of the group. John was my favor🎉ite . I won't go to see the BB without them. THAT SUCKS
Lets not go anymore with Mike Love involved
I saw the BB with John Cowsill drumming a few years ago. He was fabulous. I don't think I'll catch them this coming summer if he's gone. He was a highlight for me.
Thank you. I have wondered what happened to John Cowsill and The Beach Boys. I have seen some Beach Boys documentaries that said Mike Love is challenging to tour with.
Mike Love has a track record of being a Prick
I saw The Beach Boys with Jon Bolton last week and he was a good addition. Really livened things up.
Thanks for explaining. I wanted to know.
I saw the new lineup a couple of times over the last few weeks and enjoyed it. I really like the energy the new drummer brings. Agreed that the sound hasn't really changed but I hadn't seen the touring version of the Beach Boys since the year before the 50th anniversary tour so kind of had to go off memory.
Looks just like Dennis… he was awesome
I agree John Cowsill was what made this lineup so great. I am not going to be coy about this but I have followed this lineup for some time. I perform for a living and I can tell you once jealousy sets in it’s like a time bomb waiting to go off. John brought a much younger audience, and to hear the screams from girls after he sang, let’s say Darling might not sit well with Mike. I have met Mike and we had a good conversation many years ago, but I just got the feeling that he felt like he did not get the credit that he deserved because of Brian. Then I noticed John was put on keyboards instead of drums and that changed something in a big way, but the girl still screamed, and this is just my opinion I don’t know much about the other guy you’re speaking of but as far as John is concerned, he upstaged Mike Love and I imagine that did not set too well with him. I love John is the drummer and I wouldn’t even dare to compare Dennis Wilson with John. Dennis was a pretty face that brought a lot of attention but his drumming was just passable. I know John Stamos is a great drummer and maybe too good for that band but John ‘s drumming, and vocals. In my opinion was this new beach boy band. Jealousy, I have witnessed it in bands I have been in and it’s never a good thing and it tears most bands apart. Good luck, John and other projects that you do. You’re my favorite and I support you wholeheartedly.
Upstage? Have you seen this new drummer? He upstages every one of them!
Love cannot handle being second fiddle although made a contribution he is not that talented compared to Brian carl even Al
@@kingofallwhites yeah John Stamos is a fantastic drummer, but he did not sing that I knew of. Does this drummer sing because that is what’s made John so popular. He’s got a great voice and he sings Carl’s parts really well. Plus he looked the part. I am 67 and John and I are the same age. But he is a very good looking 67. Those young girls did not care about his age. They knew he looked good, he sang good and John was a song drummer.,Fancy drumming does not mean that much in The Beach Boys. Do you know what I mean by a song drummer. Ringo is a song drummer not to mention he is the highest paid drummer in the world. Ringo played the song. And so did John.
@@darrylpugh6656 These guys are all replaceable. He isn’t Dennis or Carl and no one gives a shit that he was in the Cowsills or married to a Bangle who isn’t Susannah Hoffs.
@@darrylpugh6656 John sang but all of these replacement Beach Boys a replaceable and interchangeable after Dennis passed away.
I witnessed John Cowsill yell at a fan for wearing perfume backstage in Milwaukee in 2017. Security had to be called to calm him down and walk him to his dressing room. The fan was in tears.
If it's that sort of thing that led to John Cowsill's dismissal, it would explain why John Cowsill wants to move on without going into detail.
The other thing is, Mike Love has a history of dropping prominent members (Brian Wilson, Al Jardine) from the touring act with little notice or explanation, so this isn't a big surprise.
I met him when they were playing again around 1980. Susan was there and I complimented her on her Warner Bros. singles. John made some crack about what I said under his breath. Not a "cool" guy.
Many people have breathing problems/Asthma from perfumes.. It can be really bad and difficult for people.
@maliburide. If that was the case, (or he just can't stand or is allergic to women's perfume) couldn't he have just explained to the girl why she couldn't be backstage with him? I'm puzzled as to why he felt the need to yell at her.
I saw them last night-John Cowsill was with the Herman Hermits a few weeks ago...I missed him...The drummer was feroscous hard to say
they were sold out-John Cowsill had a trio with his wife and Billy Mumy I would love to see them
Could the reason John and Scott were let go be money? I’m sure they’re both well compensated musicians who can command high fees and we’re perhaps topped out in what Mike was willing to pay. Just a theory, of course.
Good point Mike is cheap and has to be center of attention John took that away another reason most likely both
Mike fires these replacement Beach Boys regularly. You didn’t mention Hal Blaine by the way. Best rock drummer ever and on several of their hits. What The Beach Boys need are MORE BEACH BOYS!!! All we have in this band is one original. Mike. That’s it!!! Yeah Bruce is there but that’s not enough. Get David Marks back for God’s sake! Ask Al back! I assume Brian is done but these replacements don’t matter.
Listened to drum channel S2 E55 podcast John was on in April..he said he was let go…Big Mistake..Huge!!!
I guarantee you mike love was feeling overshadowed by john cowsell that's why he's gone
I would’ve loved to see them live in 2012. I bought almost everything they released back then and saw every TV performance. It was a disappointment they didn’t performed more of the new tracks.
Yes, I agree. I would have loved to hear Spring Vacation and the end suite live as well. Thankfully they did perform Summer's Gone at the show I saw.
Yess they performed "Summer's Gone" on the last show. A song co-written by Bon Jovi which is also another weird story you should investigate.
@@Javier23gol If I'd meet Jon that's the first thing I'd ask about.
i hope to john perform with the cowsills
I have seeen The Beach Boys several times since the personnel changes. Ike is now the musical director as swell as singing lead on several songs with his beautiful voice. The new drummer is great. A little more powerful than Mr Cowsill. There’s a new lead guitarist who’s very good. Overall I think the band is stronger and Christopher is coming into his own and is outstanding.
That's great to hear, if they come to Finland or Scandinavia I'll try to catch them up live.
I saw the Mike Love’s Beach Boys in Morristown, NJ , last night. They replaced John Cowsill and Scott Totten. It looks like they added a couple of new guys, too. It wasn’t that good. They goofed a couple times and it sounded sooooo different from the other lineup.The new guys were doing their own thing instead of The Beach Boys style. Also, they did too many non-BB songs. I wasn’t thrilled. I’ll probably stick to the Brian Wilson group, in the future.
I'd like to go see them myself, but I'm not sure if they're coming to Europe next year, not to mention my country or even nearby...
Bang on agree no more Mile Love BB fake copy band. Yes go to Brian's band yes Al Jardine
I understand your melancholy. For us old fans that's how we felt after the first wave of the BB...pun intended...Starting in 1967 they were done and over.
Let me guess, they wanted a pay rise and Mr. M. Love didn't like that
I have known Jon Bolton for over 25 years and in fact discovered him and placed him in his first band so I may be a bit biased, but I don't think you have given him a chance. I realize the drummer he replaced had been with the group for 20 years but Bolty brings tremendous energy and showmanship to this incarnation and his voice is being integrated more and more as each week goes by. Jon has a fantastic lead and harmony voice which will be a great addition to this line-up, and this is really coming to fruition based on the videos from a recent Terre Haute concert in which he more or less stole the show. A very kind and humble fellow as well who does not carry the cliche 'rocker' attitude at all. While his voice is not quite as close to Carl as Darian from Brian Wilson's group, he will nonetheless surprise a lot of fans !
I don't have anything against him.
I've seen clips of Jon with our Boys and think he perfectly fits in.
I’m sure Jon Bolton is an excellent drummer..but we are talking loyalty, trust and commitment that John has given to the Beach Boys
John and Scott (and Brian W, of course) were the only reasons I spent major bucks for a front row seat at their reunion tour gig in Lake Tahoe in 2012. This is so disappointing. John and Scott brought the energy into the group and attracted the younger fans. John is a FAB drummer and marvelous bells-ringing tenor, and Scott is a precise and clever musician all-round. So bummed about this.
I remember the Cow sill’s in the 60’s it’s to bad Beach Boys lost a great drummer.
Beach Boys band is not what it use to be there’s none of the original except Mike Love.
That last I saw the band play was in Enid Oklahoma actually twice but I pray and God Bless the Beach Boy band!
Why am I not surprised that Stamos had a hand in this new drummer joining the band?! And I totally agree with you that it is very strange that the two most talented members are let go! I have been a huge fan since day 1. I have been to more concerts than I can count, many different eras, with a slew of bandmembers. Of course, the best was all the original Beach Boys. But John was so close to Dennis's style, it was amazing! John is so brilliant, releasing him just makes no sense. In my opinion, Mike is turning it into a "tribute" band +that is so sad.
I wonder if the long time goal is to actually give the Beach Boys name to Stamos after Mike retires? Who knows.
@@SoundofFree I wouldn't be surprised. Love your site, I look forward to your post's!
1 st sentence of Sharon. Yes yes yes!
@@SoundofFree That may be MIke's plan, but there's no way the other three shareholders (and possibly even IAG) would support that.
Mike sounds terrible
This is John cowsill from the cowsills? He is awesome❤
Mike Love got form. What more can be said
These details are new to me...but I did listen to a 2023 concert and while it was good, the prior band was never good. They were perfect.
I doubt Bolton can sing as well as John Cowsill. But correct me if I'm wrong. Anyone who can play a nearly perfect drum track while simultaneously singing a song as difficult as "Darling" gets a tip of the hat from me. Plus John can play and sing it perfectly on piano as well.
Bolton may bring energy but he cannot sing anywhere close to what John does. Big loss for the Touring Beach Boys.
I love to keep up with the touring group. Jeff Foskett, Blondie Chaplin , Billy Hinche and Ricky Fataar were all, at one time, " touring members. " If you'd followed the changing lineups of both the Beach Boy touring band and the Brian Wilson band, you see musicians flowing back and forth. Mikey is in charge now so.anything might happen.
True, tho Ricky and Blondie were straight up official members of the band for a short period of time. I’ve always wondered why guys like Billy Hinche and Jeff Foskett weren’t officially inducted into the official band lineup for all the time they put in.
@gabrielwood676 I think...Dennis had injured his hand, Bruce Johnston quit temporarily ( uncomfortable with current manager) and Brian who knows where. The Beach Boys were fortunate to have signed the Flames to Brother Records. Blondie and Ricky became the band, for a while.
Mike Love dired Mike Kowalski, who was one of the drummers for years (while Dennis was still alive,) and hired John Cowsill to replace him. That's a fact. John will be missed, he is an amazing drummer and a nice guy!
@CSICyn When I was a teenager, I had a poster of John Cowsill in my room( 1969) - he was cute.
John Cowsill started off as a keyboardist with Mike’s touring BB while Mike Kowalski was still in the touring group. By all reports, Mike Kowalski could not drum to save his life for at least several years before he was fired.
Cowsill is awesome! He is a great drummer and one of the most loyal guys on the planet. He gave so much to The Beach Boys. The experiment is over. Hire him back!!!
It probly came down to money. Mike can only pay out so much to his tour members. Both where there 20 years and whereprobley looking for higher pay. Jon and Scott are getting older to and probley need a bigger pay day. They should have brought in David Marks and Nelson Brag. Nelson has crazy energy and David at least was an original member. It would help ticket sales to have 3 real members. I just wonder what is going to happen to Darrion and Probyn Gregory with Brian not touring any longer.
Nelson would've been great, though I think he might have a beef with Stamos so that's something that would probably never happen 😅 But you probably are right. New guys are usually a cheaper choice. Probably also less eager to say no to creative decisions.
Probyn still tours with Al's band
Agreed. After 20 years you probably hoped to go up a level, especially after 2 years of little work. Also those that want to see the touring band aren’t there in numbers like they were 10-20 years ago. We are dying off tbh!. 😮 I would be interested to know what the financial returns are compared with 20 years ago. Probably a lot less while overheads have gone up.
If they were fired then it's not about money.
Sir----------THE answer to this may well just be that 81 y/o Mike felt the need to change things--------OR, he felt Scott & John were getting too important & he canned them . Beware of old men who are jealous & insecure. -------------------MJl, 77 y/o
I assume the "change things up" reason is more of a personnel change, not a musical sound change. Idk, just spitballing ideas
I am not a Mike Love fan. Never have been. Love Love Love The Beach Boys.
The Mike Love touring band did the same thing to Randell Kirsch. (Bass player and phenomenal singer). ( Get on UA-cam and listen to “California Sleepwalking”). Jeffrey Foskett has recently passed from Thyroid cancer. (Brian Wilson’s former musical director and lead vocalist). ( Get on UA-cam and lister to an original song by him called “Fish”). John Stamos is musically untalented. He adds nothing to The Beach Boys vocals or instrumentally. He is just favored by Mike Love. So there will always be musicians who can replace musicians, but will the passion still be there. Probably not. John Cowsill is a legitimate practiced drummer. He is a great vocalist. He will be missed both for his passion/personality
On stage, and his incredible talent. Thank yo for posting this video. 🙏
It’s not a bad idea that ‘John and Scott are gone considering that they now can sink their teeth into projects with some longevity down the road. Both Mike and Bruce are in their early 80s and have more yesterday’s than tomorrow’s I’m sure.
Stamos and Love are both clowns,shameful he can use the BB name,this is a trainwreck of a group.
On the same page total shame misusing the BB name like that not a shock with Mike Love it follows him around talk to any big name musician or long time music people he is an AH Prick
I’m having mixed feelings about this. John Cowsill doesn’t even have a public Facebook account anymore. So where did you get that statement from?
This video was released almost 3 months ago. He had a public page at that time. The post was also discussed on message boards/reddit.
Mike love is a real jerk. John was friends with Brian Wilson and toured with them on the 50th anniversary tour,but he toured with Brian in a separate beach boys version since love owned the rights . He was miles ahead of Dennis Wilson. A superb drummer plus he sang some of the songs. He is married to the guitarist from the bangles and they play oldies gigs. He is a multi instrumentalist.
Any "Real" Beach Boys fan knows without Brian and AL, this current band has been and always will be Mike Love sings his Beach Boys hits. I stay in the Brian camp because without him...there is no Beach Boys! Not a rip off but just not the Beach Boys!
Without Mike Love or any of them but especially the lead singer and lyricist of their biggest hits there would be no Beach Boys. Take Mike's voice out and his lyrics out and see what you have!
Not really Beach Boys band related, but have you noticed that most of the tracks from Spring/American Spring have been removed from youtube? Most times, that usually means there is a release of recordings coming out soon. I hope so.
Unfortunately, from a reliable source, that is most likely not going to happen. It's under Marilyn's control and that source said she's likely to do that. But I'd love to be proven wrong! 😊
I would hope so too. I haven't been able to ever find a copy of their LP. I really like it.
@@SoundofFree just now found one last year at a record show after being a fan for 22 years
Nice!
@@justinplankthat’s a shame because I love Mountain of Love, and there’s really no reason to hold up the album and erase it off UA-cam if they aren’t gonna at least monetize it and release it again officially. Not like the uploads are holding up their profits lol.
I’m not surprised by this, Mike’s pretty much a “my way or the highway” kind of guy, and it’s been brewing for years. Due to his earlier years, John learned how to deal with a narcissist, so he was able to deal with Mike and his issues. I went to see the ML touring band because I loved Brian’s music, and wanted to see John Cowsill, not because of Mike. I got to give Mike credit for knowing how to pick great musicians for his band but that’s about it. Hearing a mature person singing about being true to your school is a bit ludicrous, and that song about TM was totally self indulgent nonsense, it made me wince every time. But Brian’s music was great so I put up with it.
Yes, I’ve seen the touring band quite a few times and you could tell when Mike wasn’t happy about John because he wouldn’t let John sing that night. Yes, it was that obvious.
The last time I saw this band they were a hot mess. Never found out why but the tension on stage was so bad you could cut it with a knife. And even Jeffrey was a part of it. Instead of actively playing guitar, he would strum when he felt like it which showed me that they were using a track on stage, that just blew me away. I actually got a big headache from it all. After that I couldn’t go to see the band, it just wasn’t worth it.
After being on the road for so many years I hope John enjoys his new freedom, he certainly deserves it.
And the less said about John Stamos the better, he was just dabbling with music. Mike would pull him out of the hat when he felt he needed a big name in the band, like the DC concerts.
I just want to know why a man in his eighties still wants to tour so hard, instead of enjoying his retirement. Is it the money or is it something else? Once again I’ll never know, but now that John and Scott are gone, I’ll never see that band again, what’s the point?
Mike Love would fired his cousins If they were still living....
He already did. In 2012, he "fired" Brian, along with Al.
Typical behavior from Mike Love.
John Cowsill is a great drummer and can find work. If john is not making a big deal why are fans making such a big deal out of it.
Well, I know am not making a big deal about it, I am just making videos about The Beach Boys and all stuff related to them. It's pretty dry out here news-vice because the group's last new recording was over 10 years ago 😁
Two guys gone...confirms the rumors about ML once again.
Without John Cowsill I would never see them agai. I can't count the many times I have seen them, but no more "Darlin"
I mean…if you are going to compare losing people from brians band to this, brian lost jeff scott and nicky, arguably 2 of the of the core, in a matter of 5 years with virtually no change
Scott's and Nicky's departures can't be compared to this. Jeff obviously was a big loss at the time, but IMO, Brian was able to hire a better voice to replace Jeff with Matt. I don't know anything about the new guys in Mike's group which is why I didn't criticize them on these videos.
Brian lost Nicky cause he passed away unexpectedly and Scott Bennett went to jail for a rape conviction. That was a messed up case. Losing Jeff was hard to see happen but Brian has added Matt Jardine, plus Billy Hinsche for while but he has also passed away. They do manage to bring in good replacements but there's more to the store of Scott T. And John leaving the band... They are just being politically nice for the moment. There will be a time when it all comes out what really happen. It is well documented that Mike Love is not the easiest person to work with and can be a bit intimidating I've experienced it personally when I interviewed him years.
John Cowsill is a match to Carl anyday and Carl is superior in my book.
We were fortunate enough to see the Beach Boys (two bands then, reunited as it were) in Glendale, Arizona in 2012. That was without doubt the best concert I ever witnessed and it was not my first by far. I'm 76 years old. It would be very easy to condemn Mike as the villain in their subsequent re-breakup. I don't think he's that. Mike Love is a very talented showman. He was astute enough to secure The Beach Boys name for himself. I'm not privy to the workings behind his decisions. I'm only sorry he and the rest of the living Beach Boys and their surviving replacements can't just suck it up and give us more great music.
John Cowsill has the best voice. The best drummer.... The Beach Boys fans lose out big time!
Stamos.
Dennis Wilson NEVER played on a beach boys record, all those recordings were Hal Blaine. Dennis was not good enough and had substance abuse problems. Those records were made by the "wrecking crew" studio players. Glen Campbell even played on them. Dennis was average at best. It's a shame john isn't playing with them live, I thought he went back to the Cowsills, but stuff happens.
Is this a joke? Hal plays on some records between 1964-1967 and on a few tracks after that, but during 61-64 it's mostly Dennis, after 67 it's mostly Dennis and live it was mostly Dennis.
Not true! Dennis played on everything from 62-64, the only reason the wrecking crew was used was because the Beach Boys were touring all the time and couldn't record!
Dennis also played drums on most of their seventies albums! Where did you hear this fake news???
Without Al Jardine and Brian Wilson, Mike Love and Bruce Johnston's version is just a cover band. Love and Johnston's singing is not good. I just listened to a version of "You're So Good to Me" with Johnston singing and it was horrible. He had no range whatsoever. Plus, Mike Love has this band being another extension of the Trump Party. Gun shows and MAGA events and Mike Love won't be far behind. They should be erased from touring as The Beach Boys since Brian Wilson certainly wouldn't approve of this carnival act.
Politics probably, Mike and Bruce are MAGA Patriots, friends of President Trump, have played Mar A Lago, and I know that Scott Totten is a big snowflake lib.
Mike Love sucks.
Time to hang it up Mike. Those two were the best you ever had
Cool accent...
Not “The Beach Boys” without a Wilson on stage. This ,whatever you call it, is a cover band. A money grab for Mike Love.
its garbage