USAF Boeing KC135 Stratotanker screaming power-up & loud takeoff
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- This is LOUD! One of the final videos I shot at the Avalon International Airshow 2015, two USAF Boeing KC-135R Strato tankers powering up for departure after the show.
This two tankers are based out at Hickham Field Air force base in Honolulu Hawaii, and fly for the Pacific Air Forces 15th wing and the Air National Guard 154th wing.
The Boeing KC-135 Stratotanker is the main aerial refuelling aircraft in the USAF and Air National Guards inventory. First flown in 1956, these aircraft have been a mainstay for over 50 years. The first aircraft departing was built in 1959, with the second built in 1963 (young one!) Despite their age, many of them have very low flight hours, quoting one of the USAF crew members "They where all built & sat around for a cold war that never happened" Originally sporting Pratt and whitney engines like the Boeing 707 (which the KC-135 is heavily based) they have been re-engined with CFM56 engines which provide 50% more fuel uplift, 25% decreased fuel consumption and 96% noise reduction from the original models (I shudder to think how loud they where!)
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Being a retired KC135 Crew Chief. I miss that sound and power these engine give off. When your are inside during takeoff it such a feeling. sitting in the instructor seat you feel being pushed back into the seat is great, sitting in the jump seat, leaning to the side it such a rush. Working on them is the most rewarding feeling, when you know have good working plane. I miss working and being around them. I give anything to be back on them again.
Love the scream of those turbo fans. Beautiful piece of history. One of the greatest planes ever built for sure.
I was a engine mech on the KC135 -A water wagon J57s at Travis. I used to love the MITO takeoffs. Those whistling S***cans barely got to Vr 165kts at the 10k markers. By the time you were at 10°pitch up, goodbye concrete, you've used up 12k feet runway.
As we used to say in SAC, "The Air Force paid for the entire runway, so it'd be a shame to not use it."
My god that's loud! I love the 707s with the CFMs they look fantastic! Only wish they'd bring the kc10 along with them!
The scary thing? The USAF Air Force say these are 96% quieter than the Pratt and Whitney engines! God they must have made your ears bleed! I agree with you, the CFM engines look excellent on the 707 frame, gives it an aggressive look
This is a KC135, not a 707.
Caught onto that pretty early, it's based off a 707 though, just highly modified otherwise, it's tomatos tomatoes.....
That is a common misconception. The K135 came before the 707. The 707 has a lot of more modern features that the 135 doesn't like leading edge flaps and a stickshaker stall warning. When I was flying them the 135 didn't even have altitude alert, but that may have been added with the avionics upgrade. I last flew the 135 in 1988 an the 707 in 1989.
Rick Steele
there you go, I stand corrected, thanks for the info!
I don't know why but I love the look of the 707 tanker with that black nose, the huge vertical stabilizer and those incredibly huge engines.
Great video! The second one took off quite close to the first one! Ever since that A300 crashed in NYC, I thought they'd leave more space between each aircraft.
The air forces practices 30 sec take off intervals.
The pilot on that A300 over-stressed the rudder by banging it from side to side, in direct contravention of Airbus instructions. But American Airlines thought they knew better, and taught pilots to do it that way. Just like the engine that fell off one of their DC-10s, McDonnell Douglas had the correct procedure for engine removal and installation in their guidelines, but AA had to take short-cuts to save a few dollars and the rest is history. Fortunately there is little tolerance of deviation from standard operating procedures these days, including in the USAF
We used to do 12 second MITO takeoffs. That was sporty.
Believes me, old son, they WERE loud! I regularly flew on one as a TS courier officer between Offutt AFB, Travis AFB, Beale AFB, and March AFB during my days in SAC.
You want to hear loud, one of these landed over my snow blower about 2:00 am on the overrun at Fairchild AFB in 1969. It was super foggy and the tower operator forgot we were out there. I heard a noise getting louder and louder but didn't have a clue what was happening until the landing lights came on. I could only sit and watch it go over at that point. Surprisingly, it was very quiet behind the engines, that was, until my shotgun driver woke up!
I’ve worked on these beauties for the past 5 years and they are the best plane ever. Gonna miss them
The're going to be with us for decades to come. The KC-46s coming in are to augment, not replace, the 135 fleet. The USAF bought 820 135 variants during the 50s and 60s.
During the Yom Kippur War, three of them would take off on one-minute headways. The first was still blasting down the runway when the second started rolling, and he was still blasting down the runway when the third started rolling. If anything went wrong, the tank farm was just down the hill from the takeoff path. It was impressive indeed.
MITO. We still practice those. 10 or so seconds between airbornes
I work on these and let me tell ya, the sound these engines make never gets old
Love the growl of the CFM-56 engines on takeoff and climb out. The J-57s on the KC-135A were terribly loud, especially with water injection on takeoff.
These are newer generation engines and the fuel useage is a lot better by 70%.
its more llike 40%
These old birds are still flying today after being of age back in 1959 when the 707 airliner first debued then.
Hey, my former Squadron, Hi ANG, the KC-135R-still flying strong.
Flying cement truck, as we used to call them. The common joke was that they needed the curvature of the earth to get off the ground. That was a looong rollout to take off.
Yeah... I grew a damned beard waiting for those things to lift off...
As we used to say in SAC, "The Air Force paid for the entire runway, so it'd be a shame to not use it."
Some pretty planes there. Especially the lead plane with its nose/cockpit window paint treatment.
Thanks so much for getting this video of those stunning KC-135s, and sharing it. Also thanks for risking your hearing :-) Very much liked!
These are awesome you want loud. Dig up some old tanker clips with J 57 an water injection. They where loud
Just happened across this... Awesome vid! Was actually one of the aircrew on 8880 that morning. Just a short stay that time, but loved the visit in Australia!!!
I work on these at McConnell AFB, and launching these and recovering them is the best part. Hearing the roar of these F-108 engines from 30 feet away is insane
i worked for ups years back at dfw airport and was ffa certified on all airliners and i really do miss the sound of the jumbo jets plus im an air force brat and grew up hearing the b52,b1,f15 and f16 and also would see and hear the kc135 all the time god i had to see this to bring back some good memories
Amazing video, A big like! The sound of those CFM engines just blew me away.
James Warren Thanks mate, glad you liked it!
I don't. I like the original P&W
AusAviation149
those engines look like CFM-56s
the PW JT8Ds are smaller and don't provide as much thrust. and with the weight they're carrying they're going to need it plus the fuel efficiency.
This exact one was built in 1959 the first one was.
They built these from 1957-1965.
And more than 100 of these are in service of course the usaf takes good care of them and maintenance these beautiful aircraft.
The KC-135 E were loud ! These R models are much quieter.
What you call, making progress
Best part if r model was no cart starts to clean up after and no water to heat on alert
what noise, Try listening to an A model with water injection.
My Dad flew the A model in the 60s. Really loud and Smokey.
That's because they upgraded to the newer CFM engines a while back, similar to the ones on the 737.
Beautiful planes. Thank you for posting.
Those engines are absolutely massive
They’re only CFM56s. They only look big because the KC-135 is fairly small.
Great video, gotta love that good old bird !!
Love those sky trucks!
I live in Cornwall and we have these flying over at about 22000 ft on some nights, you can hear the difference between a regular passenger jet and one of these, it’s almost quite eerie at night when you’re lying in bed and can hear the low rumble going over you
I would rather be sitting right behind the B-1 again. Only way to go!
For an older jet that's awesome
These things have been flying around my house all day.
Look fantastic!
R.I.P. head phone users and spotters seeing the AWACS also
I have seen many kc 135 take off at Grand Forks AFB ND. 69-71
Took lots of runway.
I was there too at 321st missile wing 69-71. Seen a lot also. Have you ever seen what liiks like steam
from the engines as they almost didnt clear the fence?
cool video
Compared to the A model this sounds like a window fan.
Absolutely. I used to live under the flight path of a SAC base. The B-52s were bad, but the KC135s simply screamed. I could cover my ears. My dog couldn’t. Although we moved as soon as I could afford to, she was pretty much deaf by the time she was 10.
@@richardkev3077 If you thought the 135's were louder than the B-52's at the SAC base near you than it must have been H model bombers, which was the only model of B-52 that got the low bypass TF33 fan engines, which did not have or need water injection. On the other hand, the A - G model B-52's had the same water injected J57 turbojets as the A model KC-135, but the bombers had eight of them instead of four on the tankers. You can imagine which was louder at takeoff power. Added to that, I've heard due to the way the engines were mounted in pairs, the J57 equipped B-52's (all but the H models) gave off an unearthly howl at takeoff power in addition to the typical shriek of the turbojet engines, which the A model tankers did not.
She’s a great airplane.
Those things are totally crazy imo 👀
A beautiful aircraft
Sounds better than any current airliner!
Not even close.
Sounds like an old series DC 8 52
Boeing could in theory just use this and attach 2 turbofans on it and boom you got urself a long haul 737 xD
Compared to the old P&W powered KCS these airframe are quiet!!I formally guarded KCs &;buffs at a SAC base!!
Rob Tinsley Yes, the engines on the E models were louder and left black smoke trails. SP in SAC at Grand Forks and Carswell in early 1980's.
They were real screamers when they had original J57 engines. Black smoke billowed, especially during water injected takeoffs!
Great sound is wonderful,and sooo geil😁😁😉😉😉🥰🥰
The KC-135 is not based on the 707, it is infact, a totally different design from Boeing, known as the Model 717. If you were to compare the two, the 135 is shorter, and narrower than the 707.
Are you being serious??
Because you are clearly wrong.
John Osbourn the KC-135 is not based off any aircraft, most commercial aircraft are based off the 135
The 135 and the 707 were both built based on the Boeing Model 367. John is correct that it is shorter and narrower.
I've never heard a loud jet that immediately gets quieter the instant it goes right past you. And no, don't tell me that's just the Doppler effect
Not as much fun and excitement (or LOUD) as the original engines with water injection. Loved those MITOs.
1950's birds and still going for a lot more years.👍
B 52s will fly another 30 years after getting reengined.
@@747heavyboeing3 The oldest aircraft currently on the USAF "still flying" list is a KC-135 with a 1956 tail number. The only B-52s still flying are all H models with early '60s tail numbers.
Beauties!!!!
I'm an old tanker guy... what do y'all think is original on the tankers today?
Four Boeing 737 -200 Engines. GE CFM56's. Very Durable and Reliable engines.
These big aircraft fly over my house to MARCH AIR FORCE BASE!!!!
Ouch, that’s loud!!😖
just saw this passing over my house in England newcastle
Believe it or not the CFMs are 90% quieter that the ond water injected J47s. They would rattle windows a mile away. I only flew the Rs for a couple of years, but have many years on the As.
Rick Steele the engines on the kc135a we're pw j -57 Wich was later reengined from a turbojet engine to a turbo fan engine increasing the thrust greatly thus making water injection a thing of the past (no more water heating on alert ) the addition of self start capability also made cartridge starts history and crew chiefs very happy
Whe I worked on them they had J-57 with water injection, the turbofans were a logical choice 👍
You don't know the meaning of screaming till you hear an "A" model KC-135 goes barreling down the runway. Nothing but lots of noise and smoke.
Does this job have alot of mandatory TDYs
I recon they should have the Rolls Royce Trent 800s put on them .
Everybody thinks they're based on the 707, but actually they are based on the unrelealized 717! The 17 was a slightly bigger 07 prototype,and it fit the military specs slightly better than the 07. It's been over 35 years since I read about this,but it seems like the 17 had wings better suited to later modifications, and Boeing just kept it in their pocket for this aircraft. Never a civilian version!
The 720 was about the same length?
The 720 killed the CV 880 and 990
The 135 and 707 are siblings. Both are descendants of the Boeing 367-80, which was commonly known as the "Dash 80". The Boeing 717 is a completely difference aircraft, a DC-9 descendant. You obviously have access to the Internet, so you don't have to speak from memory of a book you read 35 years ago.
I might not have a photographical memory and didn't look this up,I do know for a fact that no Boeing aircraft is any relation to any Douglas aircraft. The DC 9 is a Douglas machine.
I think if you would look this up on your interwebs you will find that I am correct.
Take care,hope the new year is treating you well
J57 water wagons are much louder..btw, sighting door is open in 2😀
Nice.
That thing looks heavy
A MITO run?
I flew on one of these ( well at least tried to ) in the 1980s, before they re-engined the things. We never got off the ground. Both takeoff attempts were *aborts - bad generator...* This R ate up more runway than I would have expected?
As we used to say in SAC, "The Air Force paid for the entire runway, so it'd be a shame to not use it."
2 KC135 Takeoffs?!
I flew on several of the KC135's when I was in RED HORSE going to and from my Temporary Duty Assignments. 1972 to 1974 819th RHS
819 RRR 1972-1974
Engine on this aircraft: CFM56-2
look how long and thick the wings are. looks like a tank
A tankER, to be exact. Those wings hold a lot of fuel.
spent 15 years in the R model
Wish they'd made a 707 BBJ with these engines and fuel capacity. 17000+ km of range... now that's VIP traveling. Would have cannibalised a few government SP sales though.
Jesus. That was loud. This is enough to SCARE CHINA.
IFR KC135 maintenance 75-78 Altus AFB OK miss being around these birds
AIR TANKER!
If these planes could somehow fit GE90-155B's on them then imagine the sight and the sound
The nacelle diameter of the -155B is 22 inches GREATER than the fuselage diameter of a 707. The 707 and 135 share the same fuselage height, but the 135 fuselage is 17 inches narrower. So those GE90s would literally be 22 inches taller than the fuselage and 39 inches wider. The landing gear would have to be extended by about eight feet!
Am I the only one who feel like CFM56 on KC-135s look better than JT3D KC-135s?
Yup. The large engines make it cute
Second one was a very heavy girl, full of gas, took almost the whole runway distance before rotating
Sorry can't hear all that "screaming" power. (I spent most of my career on the B1-B.) All the same turning all that JP-8 into the sound freedom is awesome even if it is a gentle purr.
1:31 Somebody screwed up! Notice the boom operator's outer window is open! Either that or somebody is in the boom pod during take-off.
Kntryhart it's not a big no no for it to be open on takeoff
It was when I was a Boom Operator and I am sure the Checklist specifies that all windows and doors to be secured.
The boom sighting door should be closed per the checklist. However, I would guess that someone is in the pod on takeoff for the view.
I love seeing the kc 135 take off.
Cfm 56?
Nothing loud about that at all. You want loud? Try the same airframe with four J57s at full water injection.
Thats not loud at all and the CFM 56's it now has have been derated to 75% power. Now compared to when the A/C had the JT3's its really quiet.
They're not loud at all compared to how they were with the old engines.
Polska pozdrawia!!;p 🇵🇱
Dragonscreamin' lol
Those are the same engines on the DC8 with the bigger engines on them
This plane is Airbus a340
That's cool, but not loud. KC-135A burning water on take off, THAT'S loud!
Сними про самолет KC-135R
Swept-wing ground-hugger...
hopefully it wont consume all its fuel on departure :\
HAL900032 sorry but with the amount of fuel this carries can keep it going 20 hours in the air