I have my original ARB compressor which I use for tyres and front and rear air lockers. Had it for decades. It’s turning 30 next year. Good unit mounted under bonnet but getting slower and slower to pump up my 33s AT tyres from 16 to 40 after beach runs. Still works well for air lockers
Top vid Nathan. I got an ARB twin set up in my 200 without the tank. Same place in the rear. Got the portable ARB twin also. Mounted wins hands down every time. Portable is heavy to move around and takes up too much room. Great compressors. You need reliability and piece of mind when out in the bush. 👍👍👍
This is a very good review. Just facts. No filler. And articulated clearly. Really well done. A review of the dual compressor portable carry case was missing due to the gentleman’s impressive on board set up. But being ARB, I’m sure it’s adequate. Perhaps the first 300mm of the fill hose could be insulated with heat tape to preserve its integrity?
Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate that. I'm glad you enjoyed this video. Adding some insulated heat tape could potentially increase the life of hoses when exposed to heat and it would interesting to hear from anyone that may have done this. Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy the other content. Cheers, Nathan.
Thank you for making the video. Based on the vid, CKMA12 is what I need--I have 33'' tires on 20'' wheels and do not go lower than 15-18 PSI, so the single should get me up to 30-35 PSI with no issues. But seems retailers are under impression that this one is for lockers and that I need the twin version. 🤷♂
Hey mate, you're absolutely right. The single is just fine and I used one for years without any issues whatsoever. That's a good upsell though I guess, but if time/budget doesn't meet the twin, stick with the single 👍
Well done great installation in the 200 series with the bracket all tucked away. Not the cheapest but you get ride of the extra box and heavy external compressor. My installation goes in this week. Please allow me a commence before someone starts complain about the compressor hooked up to the Aux deep cycle battery in the front drawing to much power from the battery. Yep, the twin compressor will draw appr 70+ amps instead single 35 amps, require larger size cable which assumingely installed to your set up in the rear and while you pump multiple tires for longer period it would be advisable to press the battery link button to link the starter battery with the Aux battery for support if you have it installed. Cheers
Great video, do you think you could do another video that goes through how to put together the same setup with the compressor and attachment points as well as the pressure readout displays
I have the arb single compressor with the small tank for my rear arb locker with the adapter to be able to fill up to 35” tires in my Jeep Tj rubicon. Still have the stock compressor for the front stock locker.
Hey Nathan, great comparison video. I’ve been watching your videos and find the information really valuable. Sorry that I am commenting on a 3yr old video but I was hoping you might be able to shed some light on your switch wiring. I’m about to install a compressor and like how you have wired the pneumatic switches to activate the compressor to inflate then have the main switch to turn the compressor on and off. Could you provide me some more detail on how you have had this wired up? Cheers, Nic
Great comparison test. Enjoy your videos. Something to keep in mind, you should never direct compressed air on your skin. You could get an air embolism.
Thanks mate. Glad you enjoy them. Yeah, not something I make a habit of, just a quick one for illustration purposes. Didn't have much else out there to demonstrate the test with. Thanks again!
Thanks mate. I had to wait a while for it, but it all worked out in the end and I'm glad it did. It has definitely become one of my favourite mods on the vehicle. Cheers, Nathan.
Great video as always Nathan. Sorry if it’s already been asked but the twin rear air bag switched inflator deflator is a game changer. Wow just brilliant. Can I ask who sells this ? Again sorry if it’s already been asked. Love it !!
All good mate, so I just bought my kit from an eBay store - ebay.us/6p3ROc I then just had a local fitter install this into my existing compressor setup 👍
Hi mate great video you made up my mine which way to go. Question about the paddle switches you used are they the manual type or the electric type. Well done mate.
Cool video. It seems the 4 litre tank is a waste of money considering the negligible advantages it gives. I do agree with you though, ive had my tool box arb compressor for nearly 8 years. And it hasnt skipped a beat. I feel the arb twin coupled with an indeflate device would be the best most efficient way to go about it as it can do two tyres at once. Can you purchase an indeflate and test it lol. Cool video i like ur informative style. Subscribed.
Thanks mate 👍 appreciate the comments. Haha, maybe I’ll get an Indeflate down the track, if I do, I’ll be sure to chuck a video up 👍 I guess the tank really only helps with air tools and the initial burst of air when inflating. For me, it fits well in that rear space.
The advantage to an air tank for airing up is the compressor continues to operate as you move between tires. So if it takes you, say, 20 seconds to disconnect, put the cap on, get to the next tire, take that cap off and then connect the hose the tank will save you about a minute of air up time moving 3 times from tire to tire. Also, the initial tire fill will be much faster with the tank already at 150psi. And you can run air tools...
I was looking at the twin compressor and mounting in the rear but as my wiring to the rear came direct from my deep cycle battery it was to great of a amp draw for the battery and I would have to connect to the start battery
@@XploringOz I didn't do any shortcuts in the wiring I used 10mm twin sheath the bare cable just fits in the 50 amp Anderson plugs so no voltage drop It was ARB who said it was a bad idea to load a deep cycle up with that amp draw with the engine running my DC to Dc is putting out 25 amps into the deep cycle I can't see a problem to air up my 265 65 17inch tyres should only take ten minutes
KIS Bush Craft Downunder Sounds like a good solution to me. Given that we generally only use this power draw for a short time, it would very unlikely the starter battery would ever run down with the engine running.
Thanks mate. So the switch panels were cut by Custom Installations - the company who made the drawers. I've done a full run down on the drawers systems themselves and there's a little more detail there - ua-cam.com/video/WggyOFNHdoU/v-deo.html I designed how I wanted them lay out on the drawer system, Custom Installations created them and Ultimate 4WD Equipment fitted all the electrical components.
Cheers mate! I didn't install the compressor myself in this case. It was done by Ultimate 4WD Equipment, however I couldn't imagine it would be too difficult. If you're handy with auto electrics and can get a good seal on the air plumbing, you should be right. The brackets and compressors are all direct bolt in a believe.
Nice video,it helps a lot! I was wondering if the portable arb compressor could be run on a motorcycle battery. I would like to have one for my offroad rides, what do you think? Motorcycle batteries seem a lot smaller than truck batteries, do you think the compressor would deliver the same output? Thanks in advance and again great video!
Glad the video was helpful. So I can’t accurately comment on the motorbike situation. I guess it would depend on the amperage being put back into the battery by the alternator, but my initial feeling is that it would work. I think that the small tyres on the motorbike and the short run time of the compressor shouldn’t place the battery under excessive stress.
Good video. How do you manage condensation in the tank all tucked up in there? I had the single mounted in the engine bay of a Prado and now 200, and it does take a while to get all corners back up. It is a robust little unit though. Agree, without a tank, air gun is useless.
Thanks mate. I agree the single cylinder is a great little unit and I used it for years pumping up the 33" muddies on my GU patrol with no issue, but the speed and power behind the twin is awesome. In relation to the condensation, I have noticed there is no drain tap on the ARB tank, so regardless of whether it is mounted in this location or elsewhere, the plumbing would have to be removed to be drained. Further, I really haven't had much of an issue with condensation in the past, given the amount that it is used in my application. I think it would take years of general 4WD'ing and camping to create an issue with condensation and then it would have to be removed to drain. If you were using it in a commercial or industrial application, I would suspect a different tank, or easier way to drain the fluid would have to be installed. Thanks, Nathan.
@@XploringOz Just on that point of condensation, I used to drive Unimogs in the army and one of our daily First Parade tasks was to drain the condensation from the air tanks. Admittedly they were for the air brakes but it is surprising how much moisture accumulates daily. Perhaps this is something after-market suppliers need to consider: a bleed valve.
Hi mate, I’m looking at the twin like you have it installed. I tow with my 200, don’t have drawers though... with that side panel, do you open it when using the pump, or is it fine to stay enclosed?
Hi Paul, So these units produce little heat, however it’s perfectly safe to use with the compartment closed. There’s a fair bit of room in their and I haven’t had a problem so far. It’s a great location for mounting the compressor in the 200. Cheers, Nathan.
Hey mate, because we have the heavy duty 400kg springs in the rear, when we’re not towing we often sit around the 6-8PSI mark in the bags. If we are loaded up for a trip, still not towing, we will just use enough to level out and feel comfortable 👍
Hey mate, negative. Have never tried the single compressor with the tank. It would provide some benefit, however it will just take longer to pressurise and refill the tank between use.
@@XploringOz ok. If you get a chance, have a look at the pressure switch on the unit itself. I would like to know if they've changed it since I got mine. I'm just about to pick up a new two cylinder unit for my next car. If you can't be bothered or it's inaccessible, then I'll report back when I get mine in hand, should be later this week hopefully.
@@XploringOz I got my compressor, and checked the switch. It's stamped ON 135 PSI, OFF 150 PSI. So current twin runs a much higher pressure than the old single.
It's definitely possible. It would just take a a little longer to fill the tank on the single cylinder, but you would still get some advantages, like a higher output of air on initial use and pressure build up between inflating each tyre. Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz Thanks for the great comparison. I already have the single cylinder version but I love the mounting position and space saving aspects. I'll put it on the list of jobs.
Great comparison test. Enjoy your videos. Something to keep in mind, you should never direct compressed air on your skin. You could get an air embolism.
I have my original ARB compressor which I use for tyres and front and rear air lockers. Had it for decades. It’s turning 30 next year. Good unit mounted under bonnet but getting slower and slower to pump up my 33s AT tyres from 16 to 40 after beach runs. Still works well for air lockers
Just refurb it, the kit is only $59 for all the parts including new cylinder liner and piston, it'll be good as the day you bought it
Top vid Nathan. I got an ARB twin set up in my 200 without the tank. Same place in the rear. Got the portable ARB twin also. Mounted wins hands down every time. Portable is heavy to move around and takes up too much room. Great compressors. You need reliability and piece of mind when out in the bush. 👍👍👍
Cheers mate! I agree, I reckon they are great units! Always love a mounted compressor, soo much more convenient!
Nice test, thanks for showing the rear onboard installation and super clean switch and fitting mounting as well!
No problems mate, hopefully it was helpful for you 🙏
This is a very good review. Just facts. No filler. And articulated clearly. Really well done. A review of the dual compressor portable carry case was missing due to the gentleman’s impressive on board set up. But being ARB, I’m sure it’s adequate. Perhaps the first 300mm of the fill hose could be insulated with heat tape to preserve its integrity?
Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate that. I'm glad you enjoyed this video.
Adding some insulated heat tape could potentially increase the life of hoses when exposed to heat and it would interesting to hear from anyone that may have done this.
Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy the other content.
Cheers, Nathan.
this is exactly what ive been trying to figure out about the air gun, thank you so much! very clear
Thats a boss set up you have.
Practical and space saving
Thanks mate. I think it's great, works well, practical and still going strong.
Cheers, Nathan
Thank you for making the video. Based on the vid, CKMA12 is what I need--I have 33'' tires on 20'' wheels and do not go lower than 15-18 PSI, so the single should get me up to 30-35 PSI with no issues.
But seems retailers are under impression that this one is for lockers and that I need the twin version. 🤷♂
Hey mate, you're absolutely right. The single is just fine and I used one for years without any issues whatsoever. That's a good upsell though I guess, but if time/budget doesn't meet the twin, stick with the single 👍
Well done great installation in the 200 series with the bracket all tucked away. Not the cheapest but you get ride of the extra box and heavy external compressor. My installation goes in this week. Please allow me a commence before someone starts complain about the compressor hooked up to the Aux deep cycle battery in the front drawing to much power from the battery. Yep, the twin compressor will draw appr 70+ amps instead single 35 amps, require larger size cable which assumingely installed to your set up in the rear and while you pump multiple tires for longer period it would be advisable to press the battery link button to link the starter battery with the Aux battery for support if you have it installed. Cheers
Thanks mate, I'm very happy with the way it turned out and the way it works. Your point about the batteries is noted. Again, thanks, Nathan.
Great video, do you think you could do another video that goes through how to put together the same setup with the compressor and attachment points as well as the pressure readout displays
I have the arb single compressor with the small tank for my rear arb locker with the adapter to be able to fill up to 35” tires in my Jeep Tj rubicon. Still have the stock compressor for the front stock locker.
Awesome, they are great unit! 👍
Really handy explanation, the single one be fine for idea been thinking of thank you
Thanks mate, I'm glad to hear that it was helpful. All the best with your unit, I'm sure it will be reliable whichever way you choose!
Cheers, Nathan.
Hey Nathan, great comparison video. I’ve been watching your videos and find the information really valuable. Sorry that I am commenting on a 3yr old video but I was hoping you might be able to shed some light on your switch wiring. I’m about to install a compressor and like how you have wired the pneumatic switches to activate the compressor to inflate then have the main switch to turn the compressor on and off. Could you provide me some more detail on how you have had this wired up? Cheers, Nic
Oscar for patience.. i would have burned the whole place because if them flies 😅😂.. great review,, thanks mate 🙏
Haha, thanks mate 👍
Great comparison test. Enjoy your videos. Something to keep in mind, you should never direct compressed air on your skin. You could get an air embolism.
Thanks mate. Glad you enjoy them. Yeah, not something I make a habit of, just a quick one for illustration purposes. Didn't have much else out there to demonstrate the test with. Thanks again!
Mate love the way you have set up your air system
Thanks mate. I had to wait a while for it, but it all worked out in the end and I'm glad it did. It has definitely become one of my favourite mods on the vehicle.
Cheers, Nathan.
Great video as always Nathan. Sorry if it’s already been asked but the twin rear air bag switched inflator deflator is a game changer. Wow just brilliant. Can I ask who sells this ? Again sorry if it’s already been asked. Love it !!
Just did some hunting. Direct Suspensions?
All good mate, so I just bought my kit from an eBay store - ebay.us/6p3ROc
I then just had a local fitter install this into my existing compressor setup 👍
Great comparo and very informative. Thanks.
Awesome, glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers, Nathan.
Excellent video and comparison. Thanks.
Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback and glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers, Nathan.
Hi mate great video you made up my mine which way to go. Question about the paddle switches you used are they the manual type or the electric type. Well done mate.
Cheers mate. So the paddle switches used here are the manual type.
Cheers, Nathan.
Cool video. It seems the 4 litre tank is a waste of money considering the negligible advantages it gives. I do agree with you though, ive had my tool box arb compressor for nearly 8 years. And it hasnt skipped a beat.
I feel the arb twin coupled with an indeflate device would be the best most efficient way to go about it as it can do two tyres at once. Can you purchase an indeflate and test it lol.
Cool video i like ur informative style. Subscribed.
Thanks mate 👍 appreciate the comments. Haha, maybe I’ll get an Indeflate down the track, if I do, I’ll be sure to chuck a video up 👍
I guess the tank really only helps with air tools and the initial burst of air when inflating. For me, it fits well in that rear space.
The advantage to an air tank for airing up is the compressor continues to operate as you move between tires. So if it takes you, say, 20 seconds to disconnect, put the cap on, get to the next tire, take that cap off and then connect the hose the tank will save you about a minute of air up time moving 3 times from tire to tire. Also, the initial tire fill will be much faster with the tank already at 150psi. And you can run air tools...
Can you use the Clearview Tyre Spider with the twin air compressor
With the right adaptors I don't see why not. I haven't tried this personally.
Hi bro really enjoyed watching your videos, is the price mansion included labour or just compressor
Hey mate, glad you're enjoying the channel. So that price is just for the compressor. Labour to fit would be additional.
Cheers, Nathan.
I was looking at the twin compressor and mounting in the rear but as my wiring to the rear came direct from my deep cycle battery it was to great of a amp draw for the battery and I would have to connect to the start battery
They do draw a bit of power. Are you worried about the long term effect on drawing a large load from a deep cycle?
@@XploringOz I didn't do any shortcuts in the wiring I used 10mm twin sheath the bare cable just fits in the 50 amp Anderson plugs so no voltage drop It was ARB who said it was a bad idea to load a deep cycle up with that amp draw with the engine running my DC to Dc is putting out 25 amps into the deep cycle I can't see a problem to air up my 265 65 17inch tyres should only take ten minutes
KIS Bush Craft Downunder Sounds like a good solution to me. Given that we generally only use this power draw for a short time, it would very unlikely the starter battery would ever run down with the engine running.
Nice set up. Who makes the switch panel on your drawers (driver side with compressor)?
Thanks mate. So the switch panels were cut by Custom Installations - the company who made the drawers.
I've done a full run down on the drawers systems themselves and there's a little more detail there - ua-cam.com/video/WggyOFNHdoU/v-deo.html
I designed how I wanted them lay out on the drawer system, Custom Installations created them and Ultimate 4WD Equipment fitted all the electrical components.
Great video mate, did you install the the compressor and tank your self? If so was it difficult to install?
Cheers mate! I didn't install the compressor myself in this case. It was done by Ultimate 4WD Equipment, however I couldn't imagine it would be too difficult. If you're handy with auto electrics and can get a good seal on the air plumbing, you should be right. The brackets and compressors are all direct bolt in a believe.
Nice video,it helps a lot! I was wondering if the portable arb compressor could be run on a motorcycle battery. I would like to have one for my offroad rides, what do you think? Motorcycle batteries seem a lot smaller than truck batteries, do you think the compressor would deliver the same output? Thanks in advance and again great video!
Glad the video was helpful. So I can’t accurately comment on the motorbike situation. I guess it would depend on the amperage being put back into the battery by the alternator, but my initial feeling is that it would work.
I think that the small tyres on the motorbike and the short run time of the compressor shouldn’t place the battery under excessive stress.
Excellent videy.
Cheers mate.
very good information.
Cheers mate, appreciate the feedback.
Good video. How do you manage condensation in the tank all tucked up in there? I had the single mounted in the engine bay of a Prado and now 200, and it does take a while to get all corners back up. It is a robust little unit though. Agree, without a tank, air gun is useless.
Thanks mate. I agree the single cylinder is a great little unit and I used it for years pumping up the 33" muddies on my GU patrol with no issue, but the speed and power behind the twin is awesome.
In relation to the condensation, I have noticed there is no drain tap on the ARB tank, so regardless of whether it is mounted in this location or elsewhere, the plumbing would have to be removed to be drained. Further, I really haven't had much of an issue with condensation in the past, given the amount that it is used in my application. I think it would take years of general 4WD'ing and camping to create an issue with condensation and then it would have to be removed to drain. If you were using it in a commercial or industrial application, I would suspect a different tank, or easier way to drain the fluid would have to be installed.
Thanks, Nathan.
@@XploringOz Just on that point of condensation, I used to drive Unimogs in the army and one of our daily First Parade tasks was to drain the condensation from the air tanks. Admittedly they were for the air brakes but it is surprising how much moisture accumulates daily. Perhaps this is something after-market suppliers need to consider: a bleed valve.
The air on board tank has drain and is without the arb tax
Can a tank be attached to the single? I don't need it for big tires, just in case for regular tires, but would like the air hose
Hey mate, the tank, or any tank can be fitted to the single compressor as well. Just have to organise the correct fittings 👍
Hi mate, I’m looking at the twin like you have it installed. I tow with my 200, don’t have drawers though... with that side panel, do you open it when using the pump, or is it fine to stay enclosed?
Hi Paul,
So these units produce little heat, however it’s perfectly safe to use with the compartment closed. There’s a fair bit of room in their and I haven’t had a problem so far.
It’s a great location for mounting the compressor in the 200.
Cheers, Nathan.
Hey Nathan. What psi do you run in your airbags for turning and not towing? Cheers AJ
Hey mate, because we have the heavy duty 400kg springs in the rear, when we’re not towing we often sit around the 6-8PSI mark in the bags. If we are loaded up for a trip, still not towing, we will just use enough to level out and feel comfortable 👍
G'day mate, had you tried the single comp with a tank ?
Hey mate, negative. Have never tried the single compressor with the tank. It would provide some benefit, however it will just take longer to pressurise and refill the tank between use.
I think you'll find that it's not actually 150 psi, it's 105, just under 7.5bars
Hey mate, I'm only going off the PSI ratings from ARB themselves on the dual compressor - www.arb.com.au/assets/air-lockers/6-07.pdf
@@XploringOz ok. If you get a chance, have a look at the pressure switch on the unit itself. I would like to know if they've changed it since I got mine. I'm just about to pick up a new two cylinder unit for my next car. If you can't be bothered or it's inaccessible, then I'll report back when I get mine in hand, should be later this week hopefully.
@@XploringOz I got my compressor, and checked the switch. It's stamped ON 135 PSI, OFF 150 PSI. So current twin runs a much higher pressure than the old single.
@@brianjensen5200 Awesome, good news 👍
Is it possible or of benefit to add the tank to the single compressor?
It's definitely possible. It would just take a a little longer to fill the tank on the single cylinder, but you would still get some advantages, like a higher output of air on initial use and pressure build up between inflating each tyre.
Cheers, Nathan.
@@XploringOz Thanks for the great comparison. I already have the single cylinder version but I love the mounting position and space saving aspects. I'll put it on the list of jobs.
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They are both way overpriced nowadays. There are now better and much cheaper options on the market.
Great comparison test. Enjoy your videos. Something to keep in mind, you should never direct compressed air on your skin. You could get an air embolism.
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