The Radahn greatswords are such a missed opportunity. Like i genuinely got mad when i deafeated the boss after 100+ tries and got 2 worse copies of an already existing weapon which is much better and you can get way earlier. What a tragedy of a weapon.
@@kim-xo They know they don't need to bother trying to please the self proclaimed veterans, because they will whine no matter how cool the weapons are and act like the 90% of unusable special moves in dark souls 3 were better
@@naproupi Ringed city had much better quality control on it's weapon by unusable epscial moves in ds3 you mean the ringed knight weapons ? buddy are you delusional ? it's one of the best weapons in their own classes in ds3 there were no unusable weapons in ds3 ringed city but there's plenty in elden ring's SOTE
@@kim-xo No, as I clearly said, I meant the 90% of weapons in DS3 with terrible special moves no one ever uses, but of course you'd take one of the 10% good ones to pretend it wasn't the case as usual. DS3 was known for having an extremely limited meta but sure keep your nostalgia tinted glass pretending that they had no bad weapons. Heck there's a video in this very channel that shows how half the boss weapons in DS3 were terrible and barely usable. You just didn't pay attention back then and now you joined the "If I can't use it to crush the game easily it's unusable" crew. Also last time I checked the ringed city had 18 new weapons, half of those I almost never saw anyone use be it in game, pvp or streams Meanwhile SOTE has 98, so even if 80 of those were bad (which is far from the case) it would still be more good weapons. Heck literally every weapon on this list exept the Radhan sword with the jump attack is great and perfectly usable. You guys are spoiled and can't make the difference between criticism and cherrypicking through your bad faith I love DS3 and Elden Ring both, I just aknowledge the great progression Fromsoft made between the two rather than being bitter and stuck in the past.
@@naproupi Most of the older players are bitter because this is the most wait a souls dlc ever took and it came out rushed in some parts seriously ? 40$ and 2 years of wait but we still get some mediocre boss weapons and even more mediocre final boss ? who wouldn't bitter here ?
Now that i think about it, sword of damnation couldve been a light greatsword with the elagence of Midra's moveset, movement and stance during the fight
This would've been cool, but when you see Midra use the weapon, its absolutely fucking massive and its honestly suprising that the weapon isn't a colossal sword when we use it. So I think making it a greatsword and giving it the moveset it has was probably the best choice, but obviosly likewise with how all boss weapons should be handled, it should have a unique moveset similar to one of Midra's combos
I agree but if you take a step back and look, he's only able to wield the great sword with such elegance because he's fucking huge. He's like 7ft while we're only 5'7.
@@Krakain however, you can RUN and JUMP with both the giant crusher and fingerprint shield equipped why wouldn't we be able to wield an elongated spine like the dude... who's spine we took Also the sword is shrunken to about the same size of the one that you see in his first phase
It doesn’t even need a unique moveset, just give it the sexy light attack combo and the claymore heavy and rolling attacks, instant best greatsword in the game
Honestly, the Radahn Greatswords were the perfect opportunity for a stance weapon: You hold your hands up in the Pontiff stance, and light attack uses the light skill while strong attack does the lord skill. Lol, just got to the part of the video when you talk about turning it into a stance.
Even better, make us hold them opened and to the side like the stance Radahn is usually portrayed in. Sure it's a bit basic but it's a unique stance compared to what's available to us.
@@lmtalpha6382 It would've been super cool too if during the stance, one blade had golden rays coming off of it for lightspeed dash, and one had sparkles that drifted down for Promised Consort. They've shown us they can make a stance weapon with two different effects, as evident from Relanna's swords
I want(ed) another heavy thrusting sword of the wing talon that Bayle lost, could've just been that instead of the spell, with that spell as its ash of war. That way it could be powerstanced with Dragon King Cragblade for thematic purposes, too. Bayle's Nail.
Yeah that's such an stupid choice. It prevents you from blocking with the weapon. Literally every paired weapon allows blocking except for Rellana's twin blades
@@Scorchlettegod forbid a weapon uniqueness being a stupid left handed straight sword r1 that you cant even do a crouch attack with (which is the best attack for straightswords). The weapon is already unique with the unique AOW.
In case you were curious, the spinning gravity thrust isn't exclusive to Radahn. It's just that Gaius and Radahn both had the same Gravity spell teacher so they both know the same arts.
There's absolutely no reason at all to make Radahn's swords two separate weapons. I'm just... so confused by that. You pointed out, rightly so, that they could have, and SHOULD have just made them curved greatswords with a stance. Not only would that set them apart from the Starscourge Greatswords, but it wouldn't break their pattern of having two unlocks per remembrance. I mean, why the FUCK would they do it that way when they already had a mechanism in place that would perfectly combine the two skills and makes perfect sense in the context of the game? Fromsoft games are just littered with these tiny instances of absolutely pointless and baffling limitations imposed by the devs. WHY????
There’s basically no reason to fight PCR after your first playthrough. You definitely don’t need the runes, the rewards are unappealing at best, and the fight itself is pretty bad. Such a letdown for the final boss ER will ever have.
@Scowleasy wait what? Since when did ppl think this fight was bad? I just recently beat him for the first time, and while extremely hard, I thought it was great, with lots of callbacks to the first Radahn fight. Plus the music matched the fight perfectly
@@sum1_723 many people think this fight is bad. You litterally can’t see anything during second phase, and he has the cross slash. Objectively, this boss is awful.
@@upsideproductions2 "Objectively, this boss is awful" It baffles my mind how ppl can type out shit like this on the Internet and not die of cringe. I'm kind of jealous sometimes.
Imagine you’re a hero who has squired the status of Demi-god and you are lording in your land somberly as no one dares to challenge you but then a new foe a man who is rather small compared to you but is battle hardened you watch him run at you dodge all your strikes like a blur just to realize you are getting the shit kicked out of you with a giant sunflower
Same, really fun weapon for field bosses or just riding around on torrent. Also, you can cheese the death blight divine beast dancer with it by not dropping down and just using the charge r2
@@Blyatarinawhy are people like this 1,500 damage is perfectly fine for most people, we wanna actually fight the bosses not just overpower ourselves and wipe them that’s not the point
@@Slaughter_Hillits a great weapon for its class comparing it to once shot builds and colossal weapons is kinda unfair. And besides its also a great pvp weapon
I wish Consort Radahn kept his two weapons, but one was str/fth with a holy damage weapon art, and the other would be str/int with a gravity magic weapon art. Would’ve made significantly more sense. All the other changes you made would’ve been perfect though. Powerstanced Curved-Greatswords would’ve made these weapons like 5x better.
I would've loved a str/arc cgs as the other option, with the blood flame from the bossfight as the skill or something more intricate. Then we would have a str/int, a str/fth and a str/arc
Not only we didn't get any of his new gravity moves, we have to spend a remembrance duplication on the exact same weapon when the skills could just have been a stance with two moves...
Messmers sphere is all right but for the reasons that were said in the video it's not perfect I agree it should be a bit higher remember this video is on opinions not fact besides I think great sword of damnation is probably at the spot where the spear was
@@BLP04 it's kinda ass tbh. Your never gonna stagger a boss because it does 9 stance dmg. If you want a throwing weapon I'd prefer using the spectral lance. It does more dmg, the skill is not bad tho
Personally I enjoyed the fight against Rahdan, thought it was really cool but given how hard it was and how much shit he pulled out of his ass I agree, the weapons should have been way better.
Seems to be a very you love it or hate it boss, personally I really like it. It does very high danmage and is very fast but makes up for it with how much damage it takes. Truly underrated boss
@@eddisonwilde4699 I just love its design, the way it moves, its theme, and I'm also a big fan of faith-related builds and stuff in the game, especially with holy damage, so perhaps I'm a bit biased too
My biggest problem with it is its just a basic smithing heavy thrusting sword, so what you can change about it, you can also change on 3 other heavy thrusting swords. And the skill is just a massive missed opportunity. I mean, not only is the skill not even one of Gaius's attacks, its not even an attack from the DLC. Fromsoft couldn't even bother putting the AOW somewhere else in the DLC and then give this weapon a proper unique skill like Gaius's phase transition. All this weapon does is just further my point that the DLC had a deadline that was set far to early for the amount of content they wanted to add, and it shows with Messmer's terrible R2, both of Radahn's swords and this weapons being turned into a basic smithing weapon.
@@snuppet Correct me if im wrong but Gaius quite literally does the ash of war spin attack when hes in his second phase, the lore behind him being able to do it is because him and radahn learnt it together or something like that
I agree that the radhan greatsword should have been stance based, and that they should have been faith or even hear me out, int based but doing full holy damage which would have made them way more unique. I still think that like the boss they are cool as hell tho, but hey opinions. As for the rest I seriously think the DLC gave us some of the sickest weapons in fromsoft history, I've been having so much fun trying as many of them as possible.
Messmer’s spear is good for pvp, since the jump from the first cast counts as a hitbox, meaning that if you can hit the initial jump, first cast will be a true combo (from what I can tell) and the running R2 is good for preventing flask heals, since the thrown spear will close the distance. On PVE, though, it makes sense why it’s on the lower half
I'm flabbergasted at how a huge chunk of Messmer's moveset was outright ruined by the decision to turn all the R2's into throwing moves. It really should have been a stance; R2 throws it quickly, R1 does his normal combo. As it stands, both Messmer's Soldier Spear and Queelign's Greatsword are better spears than their boss.
How to fix the Radahn Weapons 1. Give them unique R1 movesets, or at the very least make them Curved Greatswords 2. Combine them both into a holy based/faith scaling pair of swords with a stance skill 3. Make the second set of swords a magic based/int scaling pair of swords with gravity based skill(s) 4. Add a cool option to combine the two of them with Enya like in DS3 with the Twin Princes Greatswords, which would make them both Int and Faith scaling, and create an even cooler Stance Skill Lol, just watched the part where you made you're own changes, glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought of the curved-greatsword idea, especially since powerstancing CGS's looks a lot like Radahn's actual combos
Another cool idea for the greatswords would be to, again, combine them into one weapon with a stance skill. However, replace one of the holy light skills with one of his new gravity attacks. Make it scale primarily with strength but also have int and faith as secondary scalings. The damage would be split between slash physical, magic, and holy making it a one of a kind weapon and a sort of sister weapon to Rellanas.
No hate but the twinblades SHRED everything, I have 4 digit AR with them, destroy invaders, consistently swing fast enough to take advantage of small windows, the straight sword can deal with enemies weak to fire more easily than most others, especially with the ash, rellana's cameo was buffed to give a 45% damage boost, pushing both attacks to an insane degree. Adding things like the talisman that gives you more poise after drinking, some chunky armor, the spiked tear, and the fire/magic tear(depending) can give you a massive edge
I seriously did not expect messmers weapon to be so low. It was such a great weapon to use in PvP. I also didn’t expect midras sword not to be in the top three. I think it’s my favourite dlc remembrance weapon.
@@satjotsagoo for PvE it's alright I guess, it's balanced and unlike RoB or Moonveil where you can L2'ing all over the place and mashing it like rabid monkey without caring anything to the point it's broken. Ash of War is by far on par with Messmer's Spear. I would put Lord Sword above Sunflower and Finger if I'm looking at both PvE and PvP aspects. This weapon was designed for trading and in PvP this weapon is great for gankers
@@mohammedbaig9569 so far only dragon attacks can stagger you. And big attacks like fire giant etc. But you won't budge at tarnished attack it can even tank Radahn's cross slash attack
I love the idea of making them curves great swords. But i think they should've kept the whole 2-of-the-almost-same-thing. They could've made one holy with a stance like you said, and the other arcane and blood flame which i wish they had more in the bossfight.
The problem with giving Arcane the ability to boost Rot buildup is that it would also boost the Rot buildup of Rotten Breath and there's nothing that you can do to avoid that from happening because of how the Dragon Communion Seal works. Trust me when I say that you really don't want Rotten Breath having 40% more Scarlet Rot Buildup per tick (If Frenzied Burst's Madness boost is accurate to what it would do to Rotten Breath), it would have like 90 Rot Buildup per tick. Back before they nerfed the Rot buildup of Rotten Breath and Ekzyke's Decay It would have been even worse. That and Scarlet Aeonia as well would have downright obscene Rot buildup. From really put themselves into a corner with those three spells making it impossible to allow Scarlet Rot buildup to get boosted by Arcane as it would completely break those spells otherwise.
after hearing the gaius weapons part i was seriously surprised that it isnt the 1st place, even after watching the rest of the video it really seems like the best thing out of them
@@Bayle-the-Dread-Dragon that could work but there are already 2 colossal remembrance weapons for metyr and the scadutree avatar. but you are bayle so i don't judge what weapon would be made out of you
This is a good video. I like how you are not just theory crafting the viability of the weapons, by using them on a run and also using good builds with them.
I agree with all of your changes to Radahn's greatswords except for the switch from int to faith. Every other final boss remembrance reward is already a faith item, and the DLC already adds twice the amount of faith weapons as it does int (excluding all the weapons that ask for both) *and* what is canonically a holy damage sorcery and makes it an incantation when we use it (spira). Having the ultimate version of Radahn's Greatswords be taken by faith builds and blocking int weapons out of their last chance to get anything other than a physical/magic damage split on top of that would just be unnecessary. Faith is already the kid being held up in that drowning in the pool meme. It doesn't need to get Radahn's Greatswords as well. Also someone, for the love of god, save arcane (the dead person at the bottom of the pool). But don't do it by giving them what should have been an int weapon this time (Meteoric Ore Greatsword).
Felt so weird that both putrescent cleaver and meteoric ore greatsword are strength/arcane but feel like they should have been strength/int. I was really unhappy about that since I took a str/int to the DLC on my first time lol, respecced just cause I wanted to use both so bad
Rellanas twin blades would be my favorite weapon in the game by far if it had a B scaling in faith and int. It would give me a real reason to do a fairh int build.
Yeah faith int hybrids are kinda trash in elden ring i was hoping they add some new spells, weapons or even a new affinty for faith/int scaling to make them a little bit better but sadly that didn't happen.
Sweet editing dude! The video helped me appreciate the music even more too. I love the mother of fingers music. It gives me this Dark Crystal vibe that I absolutely ate up.
I constantly found myself scrolling down multiple times throughout the video to like it, because the editing, writing etc. was so good that i genuinely kept forgetting i already liked the video, this actually happens with a lot of your videos, one of the best Elden Ring creators for sure, and yet one of the most underrated.
Can’t help but feel like fromsoft half assed so many of the weapons in this dlc. many of the remembrance weapons are outclassed by things you can just find on the ground. And while they did fulfill the promise of 8 new weapons types, most only have three or less weapons per new category, while they poured a bunch of new weapons into existing categories.
Half of the boss weapons were always kinda trash in previous souls games i honestly feel like its much better in elden ring and sote though there are still some weaker boss weapons. And yeah i definitely agree that there aren't enough weapons in the new categories but the exciting thing is that whenever fromsoft makes their next souls game all of these weapon types will be in the game from the start with a lot more weapons which is honestly crazy to think about specially if they add even more weapon types on top of the already existing ones in elden ring and its dlc that would be a crazy amount of weapons.
Also i feel like the weapons getting outclassed problem is the consequence of weapon types in souls games. like if there are multiple weapons that have the exact same moveset and diffrent scalings and damge numbers, some of them are definitely going to be weaker than others, but in a game like bloodborne or monster hunter every weapon is its own unique thing and you can't really compare them with each other and which one of them is better really comes down to your playstyle and prefrence.
the messmer soldier's spear is actually one of the strongest weapons in the dlc due to the unique charge attack. if you use royal knight's resolve on it, both strikes of the charge attack gain +80% damage, that shit is insane.
If i had remembrance weapons "tail weapon of Bayle the Dread, this large club was the sole crutch that the great Dragon Bayle used to move around when his leg was torn into shreds by the Dragonlord Deals both Fire and Lightning damage The Jagged peak was once the base of the royal city of Farum Azula, before Bayle's treason Dragons and Ancient Dragons lived in peace together signified by the existence of Bayle's homeland, Dragonbarrow." "Unique skill: Flying Flame of tyranny Imbue the weapon with the tyrant Drake's flame, Granting the user wings and sweeping the area with flame lightning, follow up with a strong attack focuses the beam and does one more sweep" And "Paired great spears that were once a part of the Dread Dragon Bayle's wings, now fashioned into sharp points Deals Fire and Lightning damage Bayle harbours a secret that few left in the world: the Jagged peak was a part of Dragonbarrow. Hence how his Consort, Greyoll, is dying there, without his knowledge Unique skill: Bayle's Ruin Unleases the power of Dragons, Granting the user large wings and slamming the spear into the ground, creating a gigantic eruption of magma in the process."
Just gotta say good job on the editing. I'm trying to edit my own video and it is surprisingly hard, so props to you for absolutely killing it here! I didn't see anyone mention this so I had too. Good job man!
While the video is very high quality and very well made, I disagree with some of your placements so I'll leave here my ranking. (it's my opinion not factual) 1. Blasphemous Blade. After the nerf of Mohgwyn's Sacred Spear and with the introduction of the Bloodsucking Cracked Tear and Talisman of the Dread I think this is the best weapon in the game and it isn't close. 2. Sword Lance. You don't need to use it with Spinning Gravity Thrust only. Combine it with Royal Knight's Resolve or Cragblade and and Deflecting Hardtear and it's insane how much damage it does. But this is kinda biased because I just love the weapon so it might actually be not as good as I say. 3. Mohgwyn's Sacred Spear. While it's not a weapon I really like I acknowledge that it's still insanely powerful, although I don't have a lot to say about it. 4. Maliketh's Black Blade. Nothing really has changed about it except of the addition of the Sword of Light to make it even stronger. 5. Sacred Relic Sword. It's not for farming only, it still has very good AR, 110 Crit Multiplier and demolishes anything in the open world with the AoW. 6. Starscourge Greatsword. Nothing really changed about it. 7. Morgott's Cursed Sword. I don't know why you have it so low on the list, it's an amazing weapon. 8. Lord Radahn's Greatsword. I also hate it but it still has a very good AoW and good for R1 jump attacks as you said. 9. Axe of Godfrey. It's a shame it doesn't have an S scaling in Strength but it's still a very good weapon especially for PvP against dumbasses. 10. Spear of the Impaler. The R2 might be bad but it still hits like a truck. 11. Bastard's Stars. It might be outclassed by Wing of Astel but the AoW is still very good. moveset kinda sucks though. 12. Dragon King's Cragblade. After the nerf to its stance damage it's not that good IMO. 13. Marika's Hammer. The AoW hits very hard and the hammer moveset is still good. 14. Hand of Malenia. Nothing really changed about this weapon, except if you want to use Godskin Swaddling Cloth with Bloodsucking Tear for even more damage. 15. Gazing Finger. It's basically what you said but I don't think it's that good. 16. Putrescence Cleaver. It's good but the AoW is kinda bad, just use a cold infused greataxe with wild strikes and it's outclassed. 17. Greatsword of Damnation. While it's insane in PvP, I don't really enjoy it in PvE. 18. Rellana's Twin Blades. I just wish it had better scalings, maybe B or A in everything and and that the neutral moveset was the LGS moveset and not a powerstanced LGS moveset as I don't really like it. 19. Shadow Sunflower Blossom. It's ok but not that good, I prefer my AoW to compliment the weapon I use someway, not be just like R2 because you can use 2 charged R2s in the time it takes to use the full AoW combo. 20. Axe of Godrick. It's just mid. 21. Giant's Red Braid. I just with you could roll out of the AoW whenever you wanted. 22. Poleblade of the Bud. It has a good R1, that's about it. 23. Winged Greathorn. It's mid at best, 15% damage increase on enemies is pointless because at the time it takes to use it you could just attack again. 24. Grafted Dragon. It's shit, I wish it worked like godrick uses it where if you have it on your offhand it also adds extra fire damage on storm AoWs (except zamor ice storm because it's already insane). The AoW is kinda shit also. 25. Radahn's Greatsword of Light.
i like your contribution as i don’t disagree with many of your rankings, but you realize this video is about ranking DLC remembrance weapons, yes? it wasn’t about ranking base game weapons. otherwise a well thought out list.
@@threeplanker yes, the reason i commented this is because of the list he included at the end which I disagree with, so I decided to include my opinion
Kinda want to, but obviously only with the new custom remembrance weapons, the problem is, the mod is nowhere near finished and I already know they have plenty of remembrance bosses to add
Feel like Messmer’s spear got underrated too. In going about the game, having that range option against minor enemies can be really helpful for players who are less confident. Makes playing through dungeons a lot easier. And then the damage being so high on the ash is just very nice.
I'm literally watching this right now and was thinking exactly the same solution for the weapon art of radahn's greatsword. Fromsoft literally did the exact same thing with the Twin Princes Greatsword from DS3. They had the blueprint- and could've made it even better by making it easier to obtain (in DS3 you couldn't get the Twin Princes Greatsword until NG+1 since you had to have each princes' sword to combine together) I don't get how they could've fumbled so badly on this boss weapon.
@somersaultinggiraffe1901 that has literally always been the case, in demon's souls, excluding the meat cleaver, all boss weapons are heavily outclassed by things you can find on the ground or buy from a merchant, in Dark Souls 1, you can grab the Zweihander in 4 minutes and play the game on easy mode, or try to get the Black Knight Halberd and play on super easy mode. In Dark Souls 2, most of the best weapons are just found on the ground somewhere and most boss weapons are subpar. In Dark Souls 3, the boss weapons are, on average, much better than in previous games, but you can grab the Lothric Knight Greatsword before long and it's in the top 5 best weapons in the game. This has ALWAYS been a thing for Souls games
@@poliorice3600In bloodborne the cleaver that you can get instantly is one of the top weapon. In dark souls 3 the sellswords another starting weapon is beyond op.
This was an awesome video!! Thank you for the complete remembrance weapons list at the end, I was just wondering how these would measure up with the base game remembrances. I’d definitely love to know your rankings for the remembrance spells; your comment about Rotten Butterflies doing more rot buildup than the Pole of the Bud had me curious about your thoughts on the incant
I just wish the Putrescent Cleaver’s hilt was rotated ninety degrees so the blade lines up more like a traditional axe-head, instead of slamming the hilt into the ground while the blade sticks up and curves back awkwardly
16:15 D->C scaling is the usual for ranged projectile type weapon skills, unlike sorceries they get a base damage boost by upgrading the weapon which results in an overally similar damage curve even tho sorcery staffs end up with S scaling.
Yo do you actually have that mod where the radahn weapons are actually good or is that just some good editing behind the footage? Would love to try that out
Pretty sure the radahn swords are meant to be purely thematic tbh. They are the same because One sword is when he is Radahn fighting and the other is when he has miquella’s help. I do agree having one of them just be kinda trash in terms of dmg and scaling is just a missed opportunity but I also believe thematic weapons that aren’t great to use regularly are fine to exist.
Yeah that’s fair. But when I get a weapon from arguably the hardest boss in the game I expect it to be good. Not thematic, but a great weapon. If I spend a lot of time to get a boss weapon it has to be somewhat worth it
@@Idiotic_Fire Personally, I think, having weapons be just good and not amazing just because the boss it came from is hard is okay. I don't get much enjoyment out of a weapon, if it goes to far in the other direction. Something like the Blasphemous Blade is undoubtedly good, but I would shy away from using it less, if it was just a bit more balanced and I can enjoy more of a challenge. Now, despite their problems the weapons are actually not bad, they just don't destroy like the Blasphemous Blade.
Save that for something like the Euporia, a hidden weapon that’s gotten for free. Not the Boss Soul weapon of the hardest boss in the game that isn’t optional.
Is usually the norm that these final boss weapons are underwhelming and purely thematic, like gwyn's sword in ds3, i like them and promised consort is a fun weapon skill to use
I been getting so much bad ER content in my reccomended lately but this video had me pleasently surprised, really well put together list and presesntation! I'll be checking out whatever you make in the future :)
I have not seen anybody else talk about the sunflower and I am so happy to see you mention it at the top of your list because I thought that for some reason this weapon was going underrated. I'm happy to see it where it belongs and I have happily steamrolled so many bosses with this weapon. I have actually come to the point with this weapon that I will stop using it because it makes most bosses too easy and I will only pull it out if I'm struggling
I like the messmer spear r2s, fun for exploration, good range, decent damage when charged i thought myself, not good uncharged, moreso with axe talisman, forge talisman. Also had a lot of fun with it against scadutree avatar. Took me through the DLC mostly the first run, loved my little guided missile launcher. I did beat radahn with the sunflower though, cos it was funnier, gnomier, and i do like its attacks, even if i only got r1s on radahn most of the time, odd r2. I was using a shield and parrying.
I love the messmer spear. The throwing i think is best done while running, it comes out really fast when you do it that way and you can play with your positioning with the animation and really fool people. it really shines in pvp
Would've been way cooler if we just got some sort of Unalloyed weapon that nulified certain status build ups or something, but instead, the reward for our work is a worse, more expensive version of the GOAT Starscourge Swords
The Radahn greatswords are such a missed opportunity. Like i genuinely got mad when i deafeated the boss after 100+ tries and got 2 worse copies of an already existing weapon which is much better and you can get way earlier. What a tragedy of a weapon.
They know they can get away with lazier weapon design because the newer souls players will defend it like if it's their life's job
@@kim-xo They know they don't need to bother trying to please the self proclaimed veterans, because they will whine no matter how cool the weapons are and act like the 90% of unusable special moves in dark souls 3 were better
@@naproupi Ringed city had much better quality control on it's weapon by unusable epscial moves in ds3 you mean the ringed knight weapons ? buddy are you delusional ? it's one of the best weapons in their own classes in ds3 there were no unusable weapons in ds3 ringed city but there's plenty in elden ring's SOTE
@@kim-xo No, as I clearly said, I meant the 90% of weapons in DS3 with terrible special moves no one ever uses, but of course you'd take one of the 10% good ones to pretend it wasn't the case as usual.
DS3 was known for having an extremely limited meta but sure keep your nostalgia tinted glass pretending that they had no bad weapons. Heck there's a video in this very channel that shows how half the boss weapons in DS3 were terrible and barely usable.
You just didn't pay attention back then and now you joined the "If I can't use it to crush the game easily it's unusable" crew.
Also last time I checked the ringed city had 18 new weapons, half of those I almost never saw anyone use be it in game, pvp or streams
Meanwhile SOTE has 98, so even if 80 of those were bad (which is far from the case) it would still be more good weapons.
Heck literally every weapon on this list exept the Radhan sword with the jump attack is great and perfectly usable.
You guys are spoiled and can't make the difference between criticism and cherrypicking through your bad faith
I love DS3 and Elden Ring both, I just aknowledge the great progression Fromsoft made between the two rather than being bitter and stuck in the past.
@@naproupi Most of the older players are bitter because this is the most wait a souls dlc ever took and it came out rushed in some parts seriously ? 40$ and 2 years of wait but we still get some mediocre boss weapons and even more mediocre final boss ? who wouldn't bitter here ?
Now that i think about it, sword of damnation couldve been a light greatsword with the elagence of Midra's moveset, movement and stance during the fight
This would've been cool, but when you see Midra use the weapon, its absolutely fucking massive and its honestly suprising that the weapon isn't a colossal sword when we use it. So I think making it a greatsword and giving it the moveset it has was probably the best choice, but obviosly likewise with how all boss weapons should be handled, it should have a unique moveset similar to one of Midra's combos
@@snuppet well shit if you one hand a colossal in your left hand we hold it like a straight sword, might as well do the same with Midra's buttplug
I agree but if you take a step back and look, he's only able to wield the great sword with such elegance because he's fucking huge. He's like 7ft while we're only 5'7.
@@Krakain however, you can RUN and JUMP with both the giant crusher and fingerprint shield equipped why wouldn't we be able to wield an elongated spine like the dude... who's spine we took
Also the sword is shrunken to about the same size of the one that you see in his first phase
It doesn’t even need a unique moveset, just give it the sexy light attack combo and the claymore heavy and rolling attacks, instant best greatsword in the game
Honestly, the Radahn Greatswords were the perfect opportunity for a stance weapon: You hold your hands up in the Pontiff stance, and light attack uses the light skill while strong attack does the lord skill.
Lol, just got to the part of the video when you talk about turning it into a stance.
Even better, make us hold them opened and to the side like the stance Radahn is usually portrayed in. Sure it's a bit basic but it's a unique stance compared to what's available to us.
I think the Greatswords of Radahn could’ve lost their Magic damage given everything about the Miquellester we know
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@@lmtalpha6382 It would've been super cool too if during the stance, one blade had golden rays coming off of it for lightspeed dash, and one had sparkles that drifted down for Promised Consort. They've shown us they can make a stance weapon with two different effects, as evident from Relanna's swords
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No bayle makes me "Bayle, the sad." we shouldve had bayle drop one of placidusax's heads as a weapon.
Or his left arm as a spear. ☠💀
Imagine a better verison of Godrick’s dragon fists. You can even powerstance this one, since Bayle has two of his heads!
Or the hellish demon wings he grows
Why not just use Bayle’s actual head, and Placi’s heads can be the handle
I want(ed) another heavy thrusting sword of the wing talon that Bayle lost, could've just been that instead of the spell, with that spell as its ash of war. That way it could be powerstanced with Dragon King Cragblade for thematic purposes, too. Bayle's Nail.
Fun fact about Rellana's Twin Blades- the left hand sword *is* actually a Straight Sword! That's why it uses the Straight Sword moveset.
Yeah that's such an stupid choice. It prevents you from blocking with the weapon.
Literally every paired weapon allows blocking except for Rellana's twin blades
@@FairuslolomgApparently the offhand straight sword is much better for PvP, as offhand attacks are better.
@@Fairuslolomg god forbid a weapon be unique
It kinda highlights the problem of elden ring's left hand only allowing neutral attacks, no sprint/jump/roll/step attacks
@@Scorchlettegod forbid a weapon uniqueness being a stupid left handed straight sword r1 that you cant even do a crouch attack with (which is the best attack for straightswords). The weapon is already unique with the unique AOW.
In case you were curious, the spinning gravity thrust isn't exclusive to Radahn. It's just that Gaius and Radahn both had the same Gravity spell teacher so they both know the same arts.
wait until you find out gaius taught radahn his magic
@@landon7711 Me when I spread misinformation:
Its a cheap excuse to reuse an animation
@@landon7711 They both learned it from an Alabaster lord!
@@jondoe9049Damn ER fans are insufferable
There's absolutely no reason at all to make Radahn's swords two separate weapons. I'm just... so confused by that. You pointed out, rightly so, that they could have, and SHOULD have just made them curved greatswords with a stance. Not only would that set them apart from the Starscourge Greatswords, but it wouldn't break their pattern of having two unlocks per remembrance.
I mean, why the FUCK would they do it that way when they already had a mechanism in place that would perfectly combine the two skills and makes perfect sense in the context of the game? Fromsoft games are just littered with these tiny instances of absolutely pointless and baffling limitations imposed by the devs. WHY????
There’s basically no reason to fight PCR after your first playthrough. You definitely don’t need the runes, the rewards are unappealing at best, and the fight itself is pretty bad. Such a letdown for the final boss ER will ever have.
@@Scowleasybro could not have spit more facts. So trur
@Scowleasy wait what? Since when did ppl think this fight was bad? I just recently beat him for the first time, and while extremely hard, I thought it was great, with lots of callbacks to the first Radahn fight. Plus the music matched the fight perfectly
@@sum1_723 many people think this fight is bad. You litterally can’t see anything during second phase, and he has the cross slash. Objectively, this boss is awful.
@@upsideproductions2
"Objectively, this boss is awful"
It baffles my mind how ppl can type out shit like this on the Internet and not die of cringe. I'm kind of jealous sometimes.
Imagine you’re a hero who has squired the status of Demi-god and you are lording in your land somberly as no one dares to challenge you but then a new foe a man who is rather small compared to you but is battle hardened you watch him run at you dodge all your strikes like a blur just to realize you are getting the shit kicked out of you with a giant sunflower
😂😂😂😂
Bhahaha
The fact how much it sounds absurd is exactly the reason why i'm totally gonna use it lmao (T T)
I’ve been having so much fun just using messmers impaler and just throwing it from across the arena
Same, really fun weapon for field bosses or just riding around on torrent. Also, you can cheese the death blight divine beast dancer with it by not dropping down and just using the charge r2
And doing basically zero damage. It's so mid and slow
@@Blyatarinawhy are people like this 1,500 damage is perfectly fine for most people, we wanna actually fight the bosses not just overpower ourselves and wipe them that’s not the point
@@dsg9648it does no damage, is slow asf, does no stance damage, and takes away like 80% of your stamina
@@Slaughter_Hillits a great weapon for its class comparing it to once shot builds and colossal weapons is kinda unfair. And besides its also a great pvp weapon
I wish Consort Radahn kept his two weapons, but one was str/fth with a holy damage weapon art, and the other would be str/int with a gravity magic weapon art. Would’ve made significantly more sense.
All the other changes you made would’ve been perfect though. Powerstanced Curved-Greatswords would’ve made these weapons like 5x better.
I would've loved a str/arc cgs as the other option, with the blood flame from the bossfight as the skill or something more intricate. Then we would have a str/int, a str/fth and a str/arc
Not only we didn't get any of his new gravity moves, we have to spend a remembrance duplication on the exact same weapon when the skills could just have been a stance with two moves...
I love how all of the bosses stand behind you like “Yes. Go my son and make me proud”.
“If you’ve used it you know why it’s down here.” I’ve used messmers spear and I have no idea why it’s down here.
Messmers sphere is all right but for the reasons that were said in the video it's not perfect I agree it should be a bit higher remember this video is on opinions not fact besides I think great sword of damnation is probably at the spot where the spear was
Same here. I think it may be the best one on the list. Bro is tweaking
its a fine weapon but its greatly outshined by all the others
@@BLP04 it's kinda ass tbh. Your never gonna stagger a boss because it does 9 stance dmg. If you want a throwing weapon I'd prefer using the spectral lance. It does more dmg, the skill is not bad tho
@@hahahahahah4759 the throw isn’t great, which is why I just don’t use it. It’s perfectly viable without it
28:23 radahn new name 💀💀
Was wandering if anyone noticed
That is a great name
Dude that music sync with Messmer’s spear skill at 11:31 was incredible! Very well edited and awesome video!
I had to rewind 4 seconds before yours for it to make sense
And I agree
@@EldenringPvP645 yeah sorry I kinda messed up the timing. More like 11:31
Typical for the combination of 2 demigods working together to have a weaker weapon than a random sunflower
The thing is- it's a beast of a weapon, only edged out by the black blade on my character
Personally I enjoyed the fight against Rahdan, thought it was really cool but given how hard it was and how much shit he pulled out of his ass I agree, the weapons should have been way better.
As someone who is an inexplicably huge fan of the Scadutree Avatar, I am very pleased
Seems to be a very you love it or hate it boss, personally I really like it. It does very high danmage and is very fast but makes up for it with how much damage it takes. Truly underrated boss
He was like a harder vordt and I love vordt
@@eddisonwilde4699 I just love its design, the way it moves, its theme, and I'm also a big fan of faith-related builds and stuff in the game, especially with holy damage, so perhaps I'm a bit biased too
I Fing DESPISE that fight
That shitty boss literally made me step away from the game and go on a walk outside for an hour. Fuck that stupid ass flower.
I'm honestly suprised gaius sword didn't get into top 3 lowkey
It should be really
Its the best imo
My biggest problem with it is its just a basic smithing heavy thrusting sword, so what you can change about it, you can also change on 3 other heavy thrusting swords. And the skill is just a massive missed opportunity. I mean, not only is the skill not even one of Gaius's attacks, its not even an attack from the DLC. Fromsoft couldn't even bother putting the AOW somewhere else in the DLC and then give this weapon a proper unique skill like Gaius's phase transition. All this weapon does is just further my point that the DLC had a deadline that was set far to early for the amount of content they wanted to add, and it shows with Messmer's terrible R2, both of Radahn's swords and this weapons being turned into a basic smithing weapon.
@@snuppetthe backseat game designer
@@snuppet Correct me if im wrong but Gaius quite literally does the ash of war spin attack when hes in his second phase, the lore behind him being able to do it is because him and radahn learnt it together or something like that
I agree that the radhan greatsword should have been stance based, and that they should have been faith or even hear me out, int based but doing full holy damage which would have made them way more unique.
I still think that like the boss they are cool as hell tho, but hey opinions.
As for the rest I seriously think the DLC gave us some of the sickest weapons in fromsoft history, I've been having so much fun trying as many of them as possible.
Messmer’s spear is good for pvp, since the jump from the first cast counts as a hitbox, meaning that if you can hit the initial jump, first cast will be a true combo (from what I can tell) and the running R2 is good for preventing flask heals, since the thrown spear will close the distance. On PVE, though, it makes sense why it’s on the lower half
I'm flabbergasted at how a huge chunk of Messmer's moveset was outright ruined by the decision to turn all the R2's into throwing moves.
It really should have been a stance; R2 throws it quickly, R1 does his normal combo. As it stands, both Messmer's Soldier Spear and Queelign's Greatsword are better spears than their boss.
I love the intro of this ranking type videos , absolute creative
How to fix the Radahn Weapons
1. Give them unique R1 movesets, or at the very least make them Curved Greatswords
2. Combine them both into a holy based/faith scaling pair of swords with a stance skill
3. Make the second set of swords a magic based/int scaling pair of swords with gravity based skill(s)
4. Add a cool option to combine the two of them with Enya like in DS3 with the Twin Princes Greatswords, which would make them both Int and Faith scaling, and create an even cooler Stance Skill
Lol, just watched the part where you made you're own changes, glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought of the curved-greatsword idea, especially since powerstancing CGS's looks a lot like Radahn's actual combos
I think the same exact thing i was just so dissapointed in those weapons like wth this shit?
But good ideas
Another cool idea for the greatswords would be to, again, combine them into one weapon with a stance skill. However, replace one of the holy light skills with one of his new gravity attacks. Make it scale primarily with strength but also have int and faith as secondary scalings. The damage would be split between slash physical, magic, and holy making it a one of a kind weapon and a sort of sister weapon to Rellanas.
Would be cool
11:28 HUH??????
No hate but the twinblades SHRED everything, I have 4 digit AR with them, destroy invaders, consistently swing fast enough to take advantage of small windows, the straight sword can deal with enemies weak to fire more easily than most others, especially with the ash, rellana's cameo was buffed to give a 45% damage boost, pushing both attacks to an insane degree. Adding things like the talisman that gives you more poise after drinking, some chunky armor, the spiked tear, and the fire/magic tear(depending) can give you a massive edge
I seriously did not expect messmers weapon to be so low. It was such a great weapon to use in PvP. I also didn’t expect midras sword not to be in the top three. I think it’s my favourite dlc remembrance weapon.
The Lord Sword roll catches like crazy in PvP. Also deals at 10k+ damage on radahn himself. Has infinite hyperarmor and you can't get staggered
Good for pvp but horrible concep and damage for pve
There are no bosses that will let you get the full combo without trading
@@satjotsagoo for PvE it's alright I guess, it's balanced and unlike RoB or Moonveil where you can L2'ing all over the place and mashing it like rabid monkey without caring anything to the point it's broken. Ash of War is by far on par with Messmer's Spear. I would put Lord Sword above Sunflower and Finger if I'm looking at both PvE and PvP aspects. This weapon was designed for trading and in PvP this weapon is great for gankers
yea I guess I hate them because of what they could've been , and trading is not my play style personally so maybe that's why I'm so against them
Damn is the hyperarmor really that high? I've got to check this out
@@mohammedbaig9569 so far only dragon attacks can stagger you. And big attacks like fire giant etc. But you won't budge at tarnished attack it can even tank Radahn's cross slash attack
I love the idea of making them curves great swords. But i think they should've kept the whole 2-of-the-almost-same-thing. They could've made one holy with a stance like you said, and the other arcane and blood flame which i wish they had more in the bossfight.
The problem with giving Arcane the ability to boost Rot buildup is that it would also boost the Rot buildup of Rotten Breath and there's nothing that you can do to avoid that from happening because of how the Dragon Communion Seal works.
Trust me when I say that you really don't want Rotten Breath having 40% more Scarlet Rot Buildup per tick (If Frenzied Burst's Madness boost is accurate to what it would do to Rotten Breath), it would have like 90 Rot Buildup per tick. Back before they nerfed the Rot buildup of Rotten Breath and Ekzyke's Decay It would have been even worse. That and Scarlet Aeonia as well would have downright obscene Rot buildup.
From really put themselves into a corner with those three spells making it impossible to allow Scarlet Rot buildup to get boosted by Arcane as it would completely break those spells otherwise.
Not really? They could literally just make it so that this one weapon and not any seals scale off arcane for rot
I feel like all I really watched was a ranking of stance damage
And personal preference, he should’ve called it “which DLC weapon is my favorite” instead of “which DLC weapon is the best”
after hearing the gaius weapons part i was seriously surprised that it isnt the 1st place, even after watching the rest of the video it really seems like the best thing out of them
It is. This list is not in a great order
it is
I know im just suprised that he put other stuff in front of a weapon that pretty much was a clear winner
Rellana’s Twin Blades feel like an amazing NG+ weapon, along with the SoNaF and Staff of the Great Beyond.
i didn't expect messmer's spear to be sow low but great list. i just wish bayle had a weapon tho like that dreadscale odachi
Or a club
@@Bayle-the-Dread-Dragon that could work but there are already 2 colossal remembrance weapons for metyr and the scadutree avatar. but you are bayle so i don't judge what weapon would be made out of you
imagine just having his girn as a sword with a skill to summon lightning
@@Eldan-l0rd I think making a lightning colosal sword out of Bayle's broken wing (the one where the bones are sticking out) would be super cool
@@Eldan-l0rd my tail is club shaped
I don't often say things like this, but whoever edited this deserves some props. If you edited it, HUGE props!
The shadow sunflower is just the ultimate caveman bonk stick.
17:00 Love the bosses name above the health bar 😂
😭 I can't believe i missed that detail lmao
I saw that too I had to double take 😂
Seeing this pop up made me so happy, I’ve watched your one on base game remeberance weapons so many times
This is a good video. I like how you are not just theory crafting the viability of the weapons, by using them on a run and also using good builds with them.
So Rellena’s twin blades are essentially what Pontiff Sulyvhan fans have been wanting for ages.
I agree with all of your changes to Radahn's greatswords except for the switch from int to faith. Every other final boss remembrance reward is already a faith item, and the DLC already adds twice the amount of faith weapons as it does int (excluding all the weapons that ask for both) *and* what is canonically a holy damage sorcery and makes it an incantation when we use it (spira). Having the ultimate version of Radahn's Greatswords be taken by faith builds and blocking int weapons out of their last chance to get anything other than a physical/magic damage split on top of that would just be unnecessary.
Faith is already the kid being held up in that drowning in the pool meme. It doesn't need to get Radahn's Greatswords as well.
Also someone, for the love of god, save arcane (the dead person at the bottom of the pool). But don't do it by giving them what should have been an int weapon this time (Meteoric Ore Greatsword).
Felt so weird that both putrescent cleaver and meteoric ore greatsword are strength/arcane but feel like they should have been strength/int. I was really unhappy about that since I took a str/int to the DLC on my first time lol, respecced just cause I wanted to use both so bad
the sword lance is actually really really good for the guard countering its the best weapon in the game for it fun fact
Rellanas twin blades would be my favorite weapon in the game by far if it had a B scaling in faith and int. It would give me a real reason to do a fairh int build.
Yeah faith int hybrids are kinda trash in elden ring i was hoping they add some new spells, weapons or even a new affinty for faith/int scaling to make them a little bit better but sadly that didn't happen.
Sweet editing dude! The video helped me appreciate the music even more too. I love the mother of fingers music. It gives me this Dark Crystal vibe that I absolutely ate up.
Very great video, you editing skills is very impressive
I constantly found myself scrolling down multiple times throughout the video to like it, because the editing, writing etc. was so good that i genuinely kept forgetting i already liked the video, this actually happens with a lot of your videos, one of the best Elden Ring creators for sure, and yet one of the most underrated.
Making the Radahn greatswords scale with faith wont make sense just because Radahn "has an int build" and the holy power comes from Miquella.
I think that Mesmer’s spear had a better charged attack it could have made to 5
The Lord sword is a beast in PvP, best dlc weapon for invading for sure, tie with the backhand blade
Loved the first time you did this vid in the base game, love the second time around too
Can’t help but feel like fromsoft half assed so many of the weapons in this dlc. many of the remembrance weapons are outclassed by things you can just find on the ground. And while they did fulfill the promise of 8 new weapons types, most only have three or less weapons per new category, while they poured a bunch of new weapons into existing categories.
Half of the boss weapons were always kinda trash in previous souls games i honestly feel like its much better in elden ring and sote though there are still some weaker boss weapons. And yeah i definitely agree that there aren't enough weapons in the new categories but the exciting thing is that whenever fromsoft makes their next souls game all of these weapon types will be in the game from the start with a lot more weapons which is honestly crazy to think about specially if they add even more weapon types on top of the already existing ones in elden ring and its dlc that would be a crazy amount of weapons.
Also i feel like the weapons getting outclassed problem is the consequence of weapon types in souls games. like if there are multiple weapons that have the exact same moveset and diffrent scalings and damge numbers, some of them are definitely going to be weaker than others, but in a game like bloodborne or monster hunter every weapon is its own unique thing and you can't really compare them with each other and which one of them is better really comes down to your playstyle and prefrence.
You should be happy that we even got new classes in a DLC
The opening was super cool, love what you did!
Intro goes as hard as ever
the messmer soldier's spear is actually one of the strongest weapons in the dlc due to the unique charge attack. if you use royal knight's resolve on it, both strikes of the charge attack gain +80% damage, that shit is insane.
If i had remembrance weapons
"tail weapon of Bayle the Dread, this large club was the sole crutch that the great Dragon Bayle used to move around when his leg was torn into shreds by the Dragonlord
Deals both Fire and Lightning damage
The Jagged peak was once the base of the royal city of Farum Azula, before Bayle's treason Dragons and Ancient Dragons lived in peace together signified by the existence of Bayle's homeland, Dragonbarrow."
"Unique skill: Flying Flame of tyranny
Imbue the weapon with the tyrant Drake's flame, Granting the user wings and sweeping the area with flame lightning, follow up with a strong attack focuses the beam and does one more sweep"
And "Paired great spears that were once a part of the Dread Dragon Bayle's wings, now fashioned into sharp points
Deals Fire and Lightning damage
Bayle harbours a secret that few left in the world: the Jagged peak was a part of Dragonbarrow. Hence how his Consort, Greyoll, is dying there, without his knowledge
Unique skill: Bayle's Ruin
Unleases the power of Dragons, Granting the user large wings and slamming the spear into the ground, creating a gigantic eruption of magma in the process."
damn bro you left me speechless all i can say is good jop
job*
IM SUBSCRIBING
@@Aalligator_facts 😁
@@Bayle-the-Dread-Dragon bless you, bayle!
Just gotta say good job on the editing. I'm trying to edit my own video and it is surprisingly hard, so props to you for absolutely killing it here! I didn't see anyone mention this so I had too.
Good job man!
they really have to fix consort radahns Greatsword, there just a joke for a final boss weapon
Yes
Dude you deserve so much more the effort and time put into this video is Godlike DAMN
While the video is very high quality and very well made, I disagree with some of your placements so I'll leave here my ranking. (it's my opinion not factual)
1. Blasphemous Blade. After the nerf of Mohgwyn's Sacred Spear and with the introduction of the Bloodsucking Cracked Tear and Talisman of the Dread I think this is the best weapon in the game and it isn't close.
2. Sword Lance. You don't need to use it with Spinning Gravity Thrust only. Combine it with Royal Knight's Resolve or Cragblade and and Deflecting Hardtear and it's insane how much damage it does. But this is kinda biased because I just love the weapon so it might actually be not as good as I say.
3. Mohgwyn's Sacred Spear. While it's not a weapon I really like I acknowledge that it's still insanely powerful, although I don't have a lot to say about it.
4. Maliketh's Black Blade. Nothing really has changed about it except of the addition of the Sword of Light to make it even stronger.
5. Sacred Relic Sword. It's not for farming only, it still has very good AR, 110 Crit Multiplier and demolishes anything in the open world with the AoW.
6. Starscourge Greatsword. Nothing really changed about it.
7. Morgott's Cursed Sword. I don't know why you have it so low on the list, it's an amazing weapon.
8. Lord Radahn's Greatsword. I also hate it but it still has a very good AoW and good for R1 jump attacks as you said.
9. Axe of Godfrey. It's a shame it doesn't have an S scaling in Strength but it's still a very good weapon especially for PvP against dumbasses.
10. Spear of the Impaler. The R2 might be bad but it still hits like a truck.
11. Bastard's Stars. It might be outclassed by Wing of Astel but the AoW is still very good. moveset kinda sucks though.
12. Dragon King's Cragblade. After the nerf to its stance damage it's not that good IMO.
13. Marika's Hammer. The AoW hits very hard and the hammer moveset is still good.
14. Hand of Malenia. Nothing really changed about this weapon, except if you want to use Godskin Swaddling Cloth with Bloodsucking Tear for even more damage.
15. Gazing Finger. It's basically what you said but I don't think it's that good.
16. Putrescence Cleaver. It's good but the AoW is kinda bad, just use a cold infused greataxe with wild strikes and it's outclassed.
17. Greatsword of Damnation. While it's insane in PvP, I don't really enjoy it in PvE.
18. Rellana's Twin Blades. I just wish it had better scalings, maybe B or A in everything and and that the neutral moveset was the LGS moveset and not a powerstanced LGS moveset as I don't really like it.
19. Shadow Sunflower Blossom. It's ok but not that good, I prefer my AoW to compliment the weapon I use someway, not be just like R2 because you can use 2 charged R2s in the time it takes to use the full AoW combo.
20. Axe of Godrick. It's just mid.
21. Giant's Red Braid. I just with you could roll out of the AoW whenever you wanted.
22. Poleblade of the Bud. It has a good R1, that's about it.
23. Winged Greathorn. It's mid at best, 15% damage increase on enemies is pointless because at the time it takes to use it you could just attack again.
24. Grafted Dragon. It's shit, I wish it worked like godrick uses it where if you have it on your offhand it also adds extra fire damage on storm AoWs (except zamor ice storm because it's already insane). The AoW is kinda shit also.
25. Radahn's Greatsword of Light.
After reading through some of these comments, I respect that you weren't disrespectful with your opinion. Thanks for contributing 👍
i like your contribution as i don’t disagree with many of your rankings, but you realize this video is about ranking DLC remembrance weapons, yes? it wasn’t about ranking base game weapons. otherwise a well thought out list.
@@threeplanker yes, the reason i commented this is because of the list he included at the end which I disagree with, so I decided to include my opinion
Dude if you never posted this vid I woulda never found out how fun the sword Lance is lol, this might be my main weapon now
Every time I heard Metyr's theme song, I always thought that it was the godskin's song instead. It's almost identical ngl
Linked Leitmotif.
Mad respect for the grind, keep up the good work man
Will you be doing a video series for the dlc version of convergence
Kinda want to, but obviously only with the new custom remembrance weapons, the problem is, the mod is nowhere near finished and I already know they have plenty of remembrance bosses to add
Feel like Messmer’s spear got underrated too. In going about the game, having that range option against minor enemies can be really helpful for players who are less confident. Makes playing through dungeons a lot easier. And then the damage being so high on the ash is just very nice.
Voice crack 18:12
I'm literally watching this right now and was thinking exactly the same solution for the weapon art of radahn's greatsword. Fromsoft literally did the exact same thing with the Twin Princes Greatsword from DS3. They had the blueprint- and could've made it even better by making it easier to obtain (in DS3 you couldn't get the Twin Princes Greatsword until NG+1 since you had to have each princes' sword to combine together) I don't get how they could've fumbled so badly on this boss weapon.
Some of the remembrance weapons are ok, but the Fire Knights greatsword is the best weapon in the DLC by far for me.
Bloodfiend arm
Meteorite GS is best with high Arcane. The blast is beyond broken when you know how to use it
You know your game design is shit when random drops are better than boss weapons
@somersaultinggiraffe1901 that has literally always been the case, in demon's souls, excluding the meat cleaver, all boss weapons are heavily outclassed by things you can find on the ground or buy from a merchant, in Dark Souls 1, you can grab the Zweihander in 4 minutes and play the game on easy mode, or try to get the Black Knight Halberd and play on super easy mode. In Dark Souls 2, most of the best weapons are just found on the ground somewhere and most boss weapons are subpar. In Dark Souls 3, the boss weapons are, on average, much better than in previous games, but you can grab the Lothric Knight Greatsword before long and it's in the top 5 best weapons in the game. This has ALWAYS been a thing for Souls games
@@poliorice3600In bloodborne the cleaver that you can get instantly is one of the top weapon. In dark souls 3 the sellswords another starting weapon is beyond op.
This was an awesome video!! Thank you for the complete remembrance weapons list at the end, I was just wondering how these would measure up with the base game remembrances. I’d definitely love to know your rankings for the remembrance spells; your comment about Rotten Butterflies doing more rot buildup than the Pole of the Bud had me curious about your thoughts on the incant
Finally another video to listen to 20 million times
8:47 fabulous, also loved spear of the impaler R2 for dungeon cleaning, melts enemies with high fth
Hey fellas what song is in 0:30?
midras theme
@totallynotgabby8569 Midra, Lord of Frenzied Flame OST
@@GoingGameCrazy that's midra??? Damn I fought him like 5 times by now 😭
@@GabsyUnderscore That specific part of the song is pretty deep into his second phase after the head explosion
I just wish the Putrescent Cleaver’s hilt was rotated ninety degrees so the blade lines up more like a traditional axe-head, instead of slamming the hilt into the ground while the blade sticks up and curves back awkwardly
Rellana is the best
Super nice vidéo man ! I loved the work you put into it !
I will forever defend promised consort radahn being the best fight in Elden ring. And I mean that.
16:15 D->C scaling is the usual for ranged projectile type weapon skills, unlike sorceries they get a base damage boost by upgrading the weapon which results in an overally similar damage curve even tho sorcery staffs end up with S scaling.
With George R.R. Martin being so involved with Elden Ring I think it's actually fitting that the final DLC boss's weapons are the worst of the bunch.
Radahn’s swords pair really well with Malenia’s great rune, one of the best builds I’ve used in the game.
If anyone is disappointed by the radahn greatswords there is a mod made by Raster , he is very underrated , i would suggest his mod
Yo do you actually have that mod where the radahn weapons are actually good or is that just some good editing behind the footage? Would love to try that out
Pretty sure the radahn swords are meant to be purely thematic tbh. They are the same because One sword is when he is Radahn fighting and the other is when he has miquella’s help. I do agree having one of them just be kinda trash in terms of dmg and scaling is just a missed opportunity but I also believe thematic weapons that aren’t great to use regularly are fine to exist.
Yeah that’s fair. But when I get a weapon from arguably the hardest boss in the game I expect it to be good. Not thematic, but a great weapon. If I spend a lot of time to get a boss weapon it has to be somewhat worth it
but both the weapon skills have the 2nd phase moveset. It would make sense if one weapon had the gravity attack of his but it doesn't.
@@Idiotic_Fire Personally, I think, having weapons be just good and not amazing just because the boss it came from is hard is okay. I don't get much enjoyment out of a weapon, if it goes to far in the other direction.
Something like the Blasphemous Blade is undoubtedly good, but I would shy away from using it less, if it was just a bit more balanced and I can enjoy more of a challenge.
Now, despite their problems the weapons are actually not bad, they just don't destroy like the Blasphemous Blade.
Save that for something like the Euporia, a hidden weapon that’s gotten for free. Not the Boss Soul weapon of the hardest boss in the game that isn’t optional.
Is usually the norm that these final boss weapons are underwhelming and purely thematic, like gwyn's sword in ds3, i like them and promised consort is a fun weapon skill to use
I been getting so much bad ER content in my reccomended lately but this video had me pleasently surprised, really well put together list and presesntation! I'll be checking out whatever you make in the future :)
the best is radahn
Hell no, the best is Mesmer
Both wrong...
Your crazy
playing the full game with these different weapons is such a boss move, thx for your research my dude
The spear of the impaler is without a doubt the best weapon in the dlc. It kinda makes me doubt the reet of the video.
it really isnt. the charge attacks missing is a huge blow against it. its still good but def not even the best spear
Someone actually made a mod that changes the Radahn greatswords moveset and skills.
What a intro , nice work dude
I have not seen anybody else talk about the sunflower and I am so happy to see you mention it at the top of your list because I thought that for some reason this weapon was going underrated. I'm happy to see it where it belongs and I have happily steamrolled so many bosses with this weapon. I have actually come to the point with this weapon that I will stop using it because it makes most bosses too easy and I will only pull it out if I'm struggling
Those weapon intros are sick! Good work!😄
Coming back from work to find this is a blessing ngl
the ammount of effort you put into your content is amazing, you truly deserve WAY more subs
I like the messmer spear r2s, fun for exploration, good range, decent damage when charged i thought myself, not good uncharged, moreso with axe talisman, forge talisman. Also had a lot of fun with it against scadutree avatar. Took me through the DLC mostly the first run, loved my little guided missile launcher. I did beat radahn with the sunflower though, cos it was funnier, gnomier, and i do like its attacks, even if i only got r1s on radahn most of the time, odd r2. I was using a shield and parrying.
Great video. Really have to try some of these
100% support your opinion on radahns swords, as well as the „fix“ you mentioned
Brother, the cinematography in this video is on another level.
1:23 can we talk about the gas intro that felt like a movie just now damn
I love the messmer spear. The throwing i think is best done while running, it comes out really fast when you do it that way and you can play with your positioning with the animation and really fool people. it really shines in pvp
Would've been way cooler if we just got some sort of Unalloyed weapon that nulified certain status build ups or something, but instead, the reward for our work is a worse, more expensive version of the GOAT Starscourge Swords
Yes for the remembrance spells/incantations ranking video :)
The intro with Midra's theme is fire btw