Untreated schizophrenia is absolutely horrendous. I want to stress that people with schizophrenia are not inherently bad people or evil people. Of course, some people are, but that has nothing to do with that. Schizophrenia is extremely debilitating AND EXTREMELY DANGEROUS IF UNTREATED. But people with schizophrenia are not bad people. If it’s treated, then crazy things like this, don’t typically happen, I have psychosis and a my closest friend with schizophrenia and I’m so thankful that she stays medicated because she’s aware that bad things will happen if she doesn’t. She’s the sweetest, most caring human being I have ever had the pleasure of meeting, she’s an amazing human 🙏🏼🙏🏼
So true. My best friend who is like my family has six siblings. One has schizophrenia and he’s always been my favorite. Sweetest, gentlest man ever. You can tell when he gets paranoid but other than that, I think he’s the sweetest soul
One of the schizophrenic brothers repeatedly raped his baby sister. He did so in private, when she was alone, because he knew what he was doing was wrong. So yes, people with schizophrenia can do horrible, evil things - things that they know are wrong. People with schizophrenia can be bad, evil people. I'm not saying that all are. But some are. And the schizophrenic rapist brother was definitely an evil person.
its so sad that the parents had 12 children and wanted a big family, wholesome and filled with togetherness. Instead literally everything tore apart, half their kids gone to schizophrenia and the other healthy half so traumatized that they don't want to see eachother
I am just starting episode 2. A riveting series. Waiting to see if they connect the "Hereditary Link" to their irish past. It is there BELIEVE ME! I can relate to this series & it is very personal to me. All I will say on the matter.
Schizophrenia is no joke. My brother had a horrible life because of it and ultimately dead only 2 years ago. Families MUST communicate about these things. Watching this documentary I saw quickly that the parents kept their other children in the dark. There is absolutely NOTHING WRONG with communicating about mental illness or disorders. The opposite is actually what’s wrong. If there is mental illness in your family you are OBLIGATED to communicate with each other about it.
As a therapist and someone who suffers from depression and anxiety, this documentary really opened my eyes to how very devastating and traumatic schizophrenia can be for everyone involved. It is fascinating and sad what can go wrong with the human brain.
@lindsayrauch9759, regardless if he killed it or not. It would be VERY traumatic for ANYONE to walk into a bathroom and see your sibling dismembering a dog. That's insane.
@@lindsayrauch9759I'm so sorry to see what the producers did to this documentary behind your back smh I wanted to learn more but I'm hesitant to watch seeing what they did to you and your family. I think I'll just get the book instead. Prayers to you lindsay
@@amandahirschfeld7382 Because God allows horrible, unspeakable acts to happen to people who don't deserve it, people he claims to love. Because God CHOOSES NOT to help or intervene or stop these horrible, unspeakable acts. That is the opposite of "loving behavior". If a human behaves that way towards another human, we call that NARCISSISTIC, EVIL, IMMORAL, UNETHICAL. Therefore, I believe God is also Narcissistic, Evil, Immoral, and Unethical because he CHOOSES not to help people that he could very well--with his abundant omnipotence and omniscience--help.
@lizzvilla6468 I'm just gonna be honest. I'm also autistic but my mom also equally raised me just like my brothers, and now I am just a working woman living her life, but needs help with very menial things. As long as you know the level of autism, getting advice, and the proper learning that two need, she'll be ok 👍🏽
Same! I have a brother with schizophrenia (medicated) and a sister with something similar (unmedicated). He behavior alone causes such a negative ripple effect within our family. To the point that my youngest sister kept her pregnancy a secret since my ill sister was stalking her at the time due to her delusions.
@@Flufiesmidnight haha I know. Well I'm from Ireland back in my Nannies days (1940s-50s) there was no such thing as birth control and you couldn't buy condoms. The family had a few Irish twins (which is two babies born within 12 months or less to each other) and three actual sets of twins.
It’s an absolute tragedy for the parents and the rest of the family. The thing is this is psychopathology, not all schizophrenics are violent and devoid of empathy. If anything, these 6 brothers were psychopaths above all with schizophrenia as a secondary layered diagnosis. And it always boggles my mind how meds don’t always help and it is up to then individual to take them, if not, all hell breaks loose! These people should not be put in society! Dismembering a dog is a sure sign that the person needs to leave the earth or be cooked away.
@@lindsayrauch9759 True, but they still let them terrorize their siblings! I know it was different back then. Siblings were allowed to physically assault one another. It was socially acceptable. 🫤
If we can stop vilifying and stigmatizing medications then more people would take it and be compliant. There are many cases where medications is absolutely necessary to the health and wellbeing of the person, family, community and society.
Compliant? Some medications are useless or detrimental to health. Ever heard or recalls? Back then they had to switch medications because of = addiction. So proceed with caution. Read the side effects on the labels and then make your personal decision.
@@arielsea9087 A lot of people would be dead right now without the invention of medications and advances in Health treatments. Don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater. What industry from toys to cars to food ,doesn’t have recalls? This is why you have to find the right mix of medication’s. People get frustrated and stop. people stop their medication and then go psycho and kill people. Not all doctors are created the same. So you have to find a good doctor and get on the right meds. I don’t know one psychiatric med that is addictive except for the new stuff that they’re coming out with experimentally with psilocybin and ketamine. You could get side effects from food. We are dying because of food. What are you trying to say?? people that have schizophrenia could die earlier at their own hands and harm others but shouldn’t be taking medication because of???
When the daughter was interviewed at in the first episode, she mentioned her mother thought the family's first house in C. Springs was a dump. It's a longshot, but I wonder if anyone ever checked for toxic mold in the walls. That stuff can cause neurological problems. Even though not every family member exhibited symptoms, it could be that some of them were more resistant to it than others. If I understood correctly, it sounded like all those who were affected all lived there. Way out in left field... I know.
I think it had more to do with the sexual abuse and trauma from that which caused the mental illness. Ronald was abused by the priest (most likely some of the older boys too) and Matthew and Peter were sexually abused by Jim. Also the violence they inflicted on each other and the emotional neglect from parents also contributed. The mother tried her best as testing the children for deficiency and filtering their water, giving them a good diet etc.
Yeah, Mom was a social climber, mom just let the boys fight it out, mom was a martyr who somehow should have even been ABLE practically or emotionally to "put" her boys somewhere out of everyone's hair. There WAS nowhere, and there IS nowhere until someone's illness requires intervention by the legal system, and I think we all know the only two possible results from that. I'm amazed that she was able to die a natural death, and I'm glad she did before having to watch all of the not-so-veiled judgement that this documentary implies when she had to have gone over and over in her own mind for decades what she could have done to prevent this tragedy.
It will show the negative symptoms during the teenage just like paranoid personality disorder. If the family didn't give proper attention or if the patient couldn't treat properly, it will lead to Schizophrenia with positive symptoms like hallucinations and delusion.
hello im a person who seen my dad in varied states of abnormal but he managed to stay married. have children and work but in between all that stories of in childhood his sister lost her eye because of him and my mom had a couple of brain surgeries do topops in the head by him i tried to calm the dad i loved down and protect them all from his really odd human interactions … my mom did say he shook me as a baby and i was popped in head once at like six but after that i was determined to keep this animal calm by being his guide sending love to him still as he is alive
This could be the worse genetic disease between families My mother has schizophrenia and I believe my brother has it too I also have a cousin with it, It can destroy families, is like drugs but just genetic
My God. How horrible. Can't even imagine what it would be like as a mother witnessing her children going through this. It's sad and I believe it would be terrifying.
@@niccolom4556 None of my brothers became affected until after all 12 children were born, The disease started in Donald web he was 22 - 1967. I was born in 1965.
Because back in the 60s mental illness was never talked about so a lot of families didn’t know about genetics and family history. We’ve come so far in learning about mental illness but we have a long ways to go! I’m so glad this family done this Documentary because many families feel alone and shouldn’t have to hide from being judged by the public for a disease of the mind that wasn’t anyone’s fault but the disease.
They grew up in disease. I think they have a right to live their last years in whatever peace and "normalcy" they can. I think the younger sister is in a way imprisoned to the mentally ill thinking she grew up with. She affected her own son by trying to normalize abnormal behavior. I can see teaching her children to love & accept their uncles, but she shouldn't try to force them to think it is normal. That's what her mother did by normalizing her daughter's sexual abuse. Now her son is way overly concerned with becoming ill & suffering like his uncles.
I think there's no right way to approach this. I get where she is coming from and I would do the same but, the others have a right to live their lives as they wish. They had their childhoods sacrificed.
That's not the point. The point is being interviewed in a dark dank area as opposed to the living area of the home. For dramatic purposes only.@@InspectahDeckINS
I remember when I was on my 5th grade and was on a recruitment to be an altar boy. After the mass, the altar boys took us on a dark room where their so called “initiation” happens and one of the older altar boys was dry humping another boy like making it seem like it’s normal. That’s the last time I attended that activity. I remember that I was attended it after a recruitment of being altar boys was held in our school. And when I was in college, for some odd reasons, a guy knew who I was and I asked how he knew me, apparently he was one of the altar boys back then.. it kinda freaked me out a bit.. and how would these altar boys think those actions were normal? Maybe that’s what they saw from those around them, including the priests.. and I actually encountered a bunch of priests who seems like they are so gay..
I just watched all episodes and I cannot remember hearing how Joseph died. Can find no specifics of his death on Google. Did they mention his death and I just missed it??
When you know there is a genetic disease in your family, you stop having kids or have none at all. I know. My husband did not tell me about his family history and now I am raising my severely disabled autistic son by myself. They all knew, but just wanted more children to be born to carry on their name.
Lots of mental illnesses have a genetic component like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and depression. Researchers have identified genes that *can* express some mental illness. But there’s not a singular cause. Instead, it is the result of a complex group of genetic and other biological vulnerabilities, as well as psychological and environmental risk factors Most people won’t develop this illness if they have someone in their family who does have it, but they would be a little more likely than someone who doesn’t have a schizophrenic family member. I guess the perfect storm of ingredients came together for this to happen. Incredibly rare for it to happen 6 times too. Hopefully this made sense 😅
Interesting that at least two of the brothers have a fixation on crucifixion. It lends a great deal of credence to the sexual abuse by their priest as a trigger. Who knows if they fixated on a cross as an object of emotional escape during times of abuse.
I'm about to watch this. However, as a child therapist, I'll watch through a different type of lens than many. I don't know anything about the family/story, but I hope that the accounts from those involved are as honest as possible, vs leaving out potential contributing factors/events, aside from genetics.... Very interested in watching.
The documentary gives giant clues on the lack of parenting, lack of discipline and lack of love in the home. From just the first episode it sounded like the family dynamic was Lord of the Flies.
I come from a family of five sisters and nine brothers but only three sisters survived and nine brothers I can imagine with that mama and amazing mother thank you for sharing your story
My father was one of fourteen siblings.. Nine died during the war.. They lived in Malta.. My father left home when he was 11 to go work on his Uncle's fishing boat..
Poor parents to manage 12 kids they had management skills these symptoms come later in teenage so it must be so disheartening for parents looking at pictures they were well fed and dressed kids
Hey Gary, I think I might be related to John Galvin ....im pretty sure, my mother born in colorado was put up from adoption she's Irish and went to another Irish catholic family, can we plz talk?
Untreated schizophrenia is absolutely horrendous.
I want to stress that people with schizophrenia are not inherently bad people or evil people. Of course, some people are, but that has nothing to do with that.
Schizophrenia is extremely debilitating AND EXTREMELY DANGEROUS IF UNTREATED.
But people with schizophrenia are not bad people.
If it’s treated, then crazy things like this, don’t typically happen, I have psychosis and a my closest friend with schizophrenia and I’m so thankful that she stays medicated because she’s aware that bad things will happen if she doesn’t.
She’s the sweetest, most caring human being I have ever had the pleasure of meeting, she’s an amazing human 🙏🏼🙏🏼
So true. My best friend who is like my family has six siblings. One has schizophrenia and he’s always been my favorite. Sweetest, gentlest man ever. You can tell when he gets paranoid but other than that, I think he’s the sweetest soul
Medication management is vital to success in living with this diagnosis
Even untreated, schizophrenics are more likely to be victims of violence than to be perpetrators.
@@tashadennings oh big time
One of the schizophrenic brothers repeatedly raped his baby sister. He did so in private, when she was alone, because he knew what he was doing was wrong. So yes, people with schizophrenia can do horrible, evil things - things that they know are wrong. People with schizophrenia can be bad, evil people. I'm not saying that all are. But some are. And the schizophrenic rapist brother was definitely an evil person.
its so sad that the parents had 12 children and wanted a big family, wholesome and filled with togetherness. Instead literally everything tore apart, half their kids gone to schizophrenia and the other healthy half so traumatized that they don't want to see eachother
I am just starting episode 2. A riveting series. Waiting to see if they connect the "Hereditary Link" to their irish past. It is there BELIEVE ME!
I can relate to this series & it is very personal to me. All I will say on the matter.
@@BrianCarnevaleB26 elaborate
@@BrianCarnevaleB26interesting… I’m 85% subsaharan african (from various African countries) and 15% Irish. My brother has schizophrenia
@@donkeykongsdad1312He literally said "All I will say on this matter". Do you know what that means???
Sry but wanting 12 kids is abnormal in itself. They shouldve stopped after the 1st one showed bizarre behavior
Schizophrenia is no joke. My brother had a horrible life because of it and ultimately dead only 2 years ago. Families MUST communicate about these things. Watching this documentary I saw quickly that the parents kept their other children in the dark. There is absolutely NOTHING WRONG with communicating about mental illness or disorders. The opposite is actually what’s wrong. If there is mental illness in your family you are OBLIGATED to communicate with each other about it.
Things were quite different 60 years ago.
Keeping Donald in the house was a bad decision.
As a therapist and someone who suffers from depression and anxiety, this documentary really opened my eyes to how very devastating and traumatic schizophrenia can be for everyone involved. It is fascinating and sad what can go wrong with the human brain.
And this is why you don’t have 12 children. It’s impossible to give all of them the attention they need.
These people should have never had children!@MNP208
This is not the typical behavior of someone with Schizophrenia
You mean trauma response.....
@@MNP208People should only be allowed to have up to 3 children idk 😐
My sister is an untreated schizophrenic. It's hard with just one I could never imagine 6.
Nobody talking about how horrific it must be seeing one of your siblings dismembering a dog in a bathtub
He did not kill the dog. He found it and was "studying" it for biology. Still very scary!
@lindsayrauch9759, regardless if he killed it or not. It would be VERY traumatic for ANYONE to walk into a bathroom and see your sibling dismembering a dog. That's insane.
not to mention being r@p3d by your own brother....
@@lindsayrauch9759 wait... is this mary... i remember ur name being lindsay in one video...
@@lindsayrauch9759I'm so sorry to see what the producers did to this documentary behind your back smh I wanted to learn more but I'm hesitant to watch seeing what they did to you and your family. I think I'll just get the book instead. Prayers to you lindsay
Holy cow,I just can not imagine having half my children with that diagnosis. She was a very busy mother,God Bless her and her husband😢🙏Bless them all.
God could have prevented this but he chose not to.
That's the opposite of God's blessings. More like cursed by God.
@@AA-wc3tw It’s like laughing in their faces, really. Gave her the name of a saint and the life of a martyr.
@@AA-wc3tw 😭WHY would God curse us when he loves us and died for our sins🤔
@@amandahirschfeld7382 Because God allows horrible, unspeakable acts to happen to people who don't deserve it, people he claims to love. Because God CHOOSES NOT to help or intervene or stop these horrible, unspeakable acts. That is the opposite of "loving behavior". If a human behaves that way towards another human, we call that NARCISSISTIC, EVIL, IMMORAL, UNETHICAL. Therefore, I believe God is also Narcissistic, Evil, Immoral, and Unethical because he CHOOSES not to help people that he could very well--with his abundant omnipotence and omniscience--help.
I also have a brother with schizophrenia when he was 2o something so for her, having six schizophrenic brothers must be scary
I have an autistic daughter I'm afraid of how she's going to turned out in the future😢
@lizzvilla6468 I'm just gonna be honest. I'm also autistic but my mom also equally raised me just like my brothers, and now I am just a working woman living her life, but needs help with very menial things. As long as you know the level of autism, getting advice, and the proper learning that two need, she'll be ok 👍🏽
Same! I have a brother with schizophrenia (medicated) and a sister with something similar (unmedicated). He behavior alone causes such a negative ripple effect within our family. To the point that my youngest sister kept her pregnancy a secret since my ill sister was stalking her at the time due to her delusions.
20 years of having babies. Poor mama.
A family that grew up on the same road as my Nannie, the family had 22 children.
@@AngelicVirgoHow can that even be possible? 😖
@@Flufiesmidnight haha I know. Well I'm from Ireland back in my Nannies days (1940s-50s) there was no such thing as birth control and you couldn't buy condoms. The family had a few Irish twins (which is two babies born within 12 months or less to each other) and three actual sets of twins.
Poor mama? What's up with you people these days?
Her choice!
It’s an absolute tragedy for the parents and the rest of the family. The thing is this is psychopathology, not all schizophrenics are violent and devoid of empathy. If anything, these 6 brothers were psychopaths above all with schizophrenia as a secondary layered diagnosis. And it always boggles my mind how meds don’t always help and it is up to then individual to take them, if not, all hell breaks loose! These people should not be put in society! Dismembering a dog is a sure sign that the person needs to leave the earth or be cooked away.
This is so sad all 6? Omg mustve been horror living with them. And ive seen what the siblings said its absolutely sadden my heart.
An amazing documentary of this family. How they all suffered, their entire lives... by just being born. 😭
Dismembered a dog in the bathtub!!!!! Damn, that’s horrible!!!!
Thank you for sharing. This is something that has impacted generations of our family, too. I will definitely be looking into this research.
There’s a book about this family too. It’s called Hidden Valley Road.
It is a devastating disease.
😊
It’s a mental disorder not a disease and it can be devastating to those who don’t get treated or on the right medication.
❤how is it possible that all six brothers are schizophrenic?
Genetics
That's very sad poor family
How many of these boys were assaulted by their priest? Also, the parents allowed him back into their home with all of those younger siblings??
I feel like this could he a triggering and snowball effect
They did not know of the abuse until decades later.
@@lindsayrauch9759 True, but they still let them terrorize their siblings! I know it was different back then. Siblings were allowed to physically assault one another. It was socially acceptable. 🫤
Nobody talks about molestation. Sad
@@dtrain5519 We do discuss it today. The culture back then was “don’t talk about it”. It was also acceptable to pick on and hit your siblings.
If we can stop vilifying and stigmatizing medications then more people would take it and be compliant. There are many cases where medications is absolutely necessary to the health and wellbeing of the person, family, community and society.
Compliant? Some medications are useless or detrimental to health. Ever heard or recalls? Back then they had to switch medications because of = addiction. So proceed with caution. Read the side effects on the labels and then make your personal decision.
@@arielsea9087 A lot of people would be dead right now without the invention of medications and advances in Health treatments. Don’t throw out the baby with the bathwater. What industry from toys to cars to food ,doesn’t have recalls? This is why you have to find the right mix of medication’s. People get frustrated and stop. people stop their medication and then go psycho and kill people. Not all doctors are created the same. So you have to find a good doctor and get on the right meds. I don’t know one psychiatric med that is addictive except for the new stuff that they’re coming out with experimentally with psilocybin and ketamine. You could get side effects from food. We are dying because of food. What are you trying to say?? people that have schizophrenia could die earlier at their own hands and harm others but shouldn’t be taking medication because of???
When the daughter was interviewed at in the first episode, she mentioned her mother thought the family's first house in C. Springs was a dump. It's a longshot, but I wonder if anyone ever checked for toxic mold in the walls. That stuff can cause neurological problems. Even though not every family member exhibited symptoms, it could be that some of them were more resistant to it than others. If I understood correctly, it sounded like all those who were affected all lived there. Way out in left field... I know.
Those with it, each has/had the schizophrenia gene.
I had the same thought
Great point. And exposure could vary by location in the home.
Yes left field
I think it had more to do with the sexual abuse and trauma from that which caused the mental illness. Ronald was abused by the priest (most likely some of the older boys too) and Matthew and Peter were sexually abused by Jim. Also the violence they inflicted on each other and the emotional neglect from parents also contributed. The mother tried her best as testing the children for deficiency and filtering their water, giving them a good diet etc.
i am so sad for what the parents and siblings went thru. The pain they all endured. ohhh 😢
I’ve watched the first 4 episodes on hbo max and omg! 😳😳😳 very sad and very interesting documentary. Definitely add this to your watch list
It was so good. I watched thr whole thing in one day. When I finished, I watched it again.
Just finished watching this! An absolute tragedy. I felt sooo bad for the parents. Especially the mom who got blamed for everything!!!
Yeah, Mom was a social climber, mom just let the boys fight it out, mom was a martyr who somehow should have even been ABLE practically or emotionally to "put" her boys somewhere out of everyone's hair. There WAS nowhere, and there IS nowhere until someone's illness requires intervention by the legal system, and I think we all know the only two possible results from that. I'm amazed that she was able to die a natural death, and I'm glad she did before having to watch all of the not-so-veiled judgement that this documentary implies when she had to have gone over and over in her own mind for decades what she could have done to prevent this tragedy.
Maybe stop having so many kids? 😅
I read the book out on this family. It was sad and educational.
That's too many kids! Poor woman
You act like she didn't have a choice LOL
"AN IRISH CATHOLIC" was all it took for me to understand. Poor kids went through some dark demonic rituals growing up.
It already happened. What do you suggest we do about it now?
@@OscarGarcia-oj1tjNo need for that. Their Catholic faith had nothing to do with the schizophrenia.
Irish Catholics do it all the time. Poor kids!
It will show the negative symptoms during the teenage just like paranoid personality disorder. If the family didn't give proper attention or if the patient couldn't treat properly, it will lead to Schizophrenia with positive symptoms like hallucinations and delusion.
I read the book, it's truly heartbreaking
I would never watch my older brother beat up my dad. At that point it’s me and dad vs him.
keep in mind, not all of those suffering from schizophrenia are violent, it is their "thoughts" which must be carefully considered
Where are the rest of the episodes? Discovery is only showing the first episode?
hello im a person who seen my dad in varied states of abnormal but he managed to stay married. have children and work but in between all that stories of in childhood his sister lost her eye because of him and my mom had a couple of brain surgeries do topops in the head by him i tried to calm the dad i loved down and protect them all from his really odd human interactions … my mom did say he shook me as a baby and i was popped in head once at like six but after that i was determined to keep this animal calm by being his guide sending love to him still as he is alive
😳
Mary is such a good person. ❤
This could be the worse genetic disease between families
My mother has schizophrenia and I believe my brother has it too
I also have a cousin with it, It can destroy families, is like drugs but just genetic
My God. How horrible. Can't even imagine what it would be like as a mother witnessing her children going through this. It's sad and I believe it would be terrifying.
6 out of 12 it has to be genetic. Why would you have more kids once you knew?
Exactly
@@niccolom4556 None of my brothers became affected until after all 12 children were born, The disease started in Donald web he was 22 - 1967. I was born in 1965.
Schizophrenia doesn’t usually appear until a person is an adult. By the time the oldest boy was an adult it was too late.
Because back in the 60s mental illness was never talked about so a lot of families didn’t know about genetics and family history.
We’ve come so far in learning about mental illness but we have a long ways to go! I’m so glad this family done this Documentary because many families feel alone and shouldn’t have to hide from being judged by the public for a disease of the mind that wasn’t anyone’s fault but the disease.
Psychopathy mixed with schizophrenia
large families stronger chance for more unwanted decired traits in offspring. Be wise with the family size and hope luck is on your side.
So tragic, really good doc
Such a nice looking family. Sad.
Schizophrenia runs in families and affects males 4:1. 😢 Very sad story.
the brothers and the one sister not helping the only sister that is helping is very tragic.
They grew up in disease. I think they have a right to live their last years in whatever peace and "normalcy" they can. I think the younger sister is in a way imprisoned to the mentally ill thinking she grew up with. She affected her own son by trying to normalize abnormal behavior. I can see teaching her children to love & accept their uncles, but she shouldn't try to force them to think it is normal. That's what her mother did by normalizing her daughter's sexual abuse. Now her son is way overly concerned with becoming ill & suffering like his uncles.
I think there's no right way to approach this. I get where she is coming from and I would do the same but, the others have a right to live their lives as they wish. They had their childhoods sacrificed.
How they react is their own take
WTF. Why interview Donald in a dark dank basement?!
He's in a retirement home. 2 of his other brothers are also interviewed there.
That's not the point. The point is being interviewed in a dark dank area as opposed to the living area of the home. For dramatic purposes only.@@InspectahDeckINS
This was such a good and informative documentary. I think the mom had the gean that caused her children to sick.
The dad might need to have the gene too if it is genetic.
I suggest everyone watches Rotten Mangos channel on this in depth. Incredibly interesting.
12 kids in 20 years Jesus Christ
I'm just watching the first episode but they brushed over molestation from the priest.
That's why there should be a limit of 2 children per couple. So as not to spread sick genes to the world
Sinaid o’conner was right all along about the catholic priests.
I remember when I was on my 5th grade and was on a recruitment to be an altar boy. After the mass, the altar boys took us on a dark room where their so called “initiation” happens and one of the older altar boys was dry humping another boy like making it seem like it’s normal. That’s the last time I attended that activity. I remember that I was attended it after a recruitment of being altar boys was held in our school. And when I was in college, for some odd reasons, a guy knew who I was and I asked how he knew me, apparently he was one of the altar boys back then.. it kinda freaked me out a bit.. and how would these altar boys think those actions were normal? Maybe that’s what they saw from those around them, including the priests.. and I actually encountered a bunch of priests who seems like they are so gay..
Like a tribe how do kids feel seen with all that commotion.
this is another one of those story that not helping the stigma
If it’s true then it’s true
Deckow Shores
Poor dog 😑
I read the book and it was good.
Kianna Plaza
Right- & probably no hidden abuse or issues either
Lindgren Hills
Evelyn Flat
William Mission
Gerhold Mountains
So sad that only one sister is there for them. Th others are just selfish!
Exactly!
Why would someone keep having children? They would have to have noticed something was not ok before having that many.
Where can i watch this documentary for full
HBO /Max
Woww got to watch this.
It’s on hbo max. Really fascinating
I just watched all episodes and I cannot remember hearing how Joseph died. Can find no specifics of his death on Google. Did they mention his death and I just missed it??
I came here looking for this answer as well. I felt so bad for him with constantly hearing voices. I was hoping he found some peace.
When you know there is a genetic disease in your family, you stop having kids or have none at all.
I know. My husband did not tell me about his family history and now I am raising my severely disabled autistic son by myself. They all knew, but just wanted more children to be born to carry on their name.
Gutmann Gateway
Brian is her twin
Delphine Fork
Jodie Underpass
Rohan Freeway
Genetically predisposed 🙏😢
Discovery+ is not available in my location. Where else can I watch it????
I'm watching on Max, but I googled and it's on a lot of streaming services for money.
It is on HBO Max also.
@@Purpur23 I think is not there also (in my location) is "Tha Galvin Family's Battle with Schizophrenia" the title I should look for??
@@CarolinaCerda89it’s called six schizophrenic brothers.
@@kelebek0421 thank you sm!!
Savion Pine
Sad, so sad.
Wilkinson Oval
Wow
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Environmental
They're probably targeted individuals.
Wait so it was genetic?
Lots of mental illnesses have a genetic component like schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and depression. Researchers have identified genes that *can* express some mental illness. But there’s not a singular cause. Instead, it is the result of a complex group of genetic and other biological vulnerabilities, as well as psychological and environmental risk factors
Most people won’t develop this illness if they have someone in their family who does have it, but they would be a little more likely than someone who doesn’t have a schizophrenic family member.
I guess the perfect storm of ingredients came together for this to happen. Incredibly rare for it to happen 6 times too. Hopefully this made sense 😅
I can't imagine how patient their mother was, bcoz having only one family member who is schizophrenic has made me overwhelmed 😇😥
@@Beelzebubby91 accurate 💯
Most mental illnesses have both a genetic factor as well as trauma factor. So it’s not simply one or the other.
I don’t wish no mental illnesses on no one I suffer everyday of my life with BIPOLAR 1 and it’s not fun 😢
Fetal alcohol syndrome can cause schizophrenia in the fetus.
I read this book, it was incredibly sad. I can’t imagine the despair and fear their felt.
Interesting that at least two of the brothers have a fixation on crucifixion. It lends a great deal of credence to the sexual abuse by their priest as a trigger. Who knows if they fixated on a cross as an object of emotional escape during times of abuse.
I'm about to watch this. However, as a child therapist, I'll watch through a different type of lens than many. I don't know anything about the family/story, but I hope that the accounts from those involved are as honest as possible, vs leaving out potential contributing factors/events, aside from genetics....
Very interested in watching.
What lens will you use? Just curious?
The documentary gives giant clues on the lack of parenting, lack of discipline and lack of love in the home. From just the first episode it sounded like the family dynamic was Lord of the Flies.
@@lauraschroeder8177 That is not correct. We had a lot of love in our home.
Way too many kids
What? That has nothing to do with anything.
Should have used birth control after it became apparent that the first few were disturbed.
When was the first sign one was disturbed?
Perhaps they should have stopped breeding.
God bless all of you. ❤
I come from a family of five sisters and nine brothers but only three sisters survived and nine brothers I can imagine with that mama and amazing mother thank you for sharing your story
My father was one of fourteen siblings..
Nine died during the war..
They lived in Malta..
My father left home when he was 11 to go work on his Uncle's fishing boat..
Poor parents to manage 12 kids they had management skills these symptoms come later in teenage so it must be so disheartening for parents looking at pictures they were well fed and dressed kids
I'm one of the brothers fighting, this project was so cool to be a part of!
Congrats🎉
Hey Gary, I think I might be related to John Galvin ....im pretty sure, my mother born in colorado was put up from adoption she's Irish and went to another Irish catholic family, can we plz talk?
I don't know how to private message you on here
@808surfergirl
Do a DNA test
Trauma causes Schizophrenia. The priest
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