Production HELL: Chainsaw Man

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  • Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
  • Abbreviations that I use regularly:
    KA: Key Animation
    AD: Animation Direction/Director
    CAD: Chief Animation Director
    SB: Story Board
    LO: Lay Out
    00:00 - Too Long; Didn't Watch
    00:47 - Some video ideas that I had
    01:26 - Anime overproduction crysis
    05:22 - Nakayama vision
    11:37 - Lack of time
    14:50 - Why extra time couldn't be given
    16:19 - Wasted effort
    17:27 - Extensive 2nd KA and melting
    19:08 - Episode 9
    20:13 - Episode 12
    20:50 - When 3D is used
    21:21 - The dissapointing state of MAPPA
    23:49 - That's about it
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  • @Letucen_nik
    @Letucen_nik Рік тому +126

    I think saying that Nakayama was too ambitious for his own good is a way to discredit what he's actually done for this production in particular and the Mappas second production line as a whole, because, unlike what a lot of people are saying, he clearly knew what he was doing and made a lot of steps to make such an ambitious production possible. Case in point - the Nakayama animators employment program which was a way to address the issue of animator shortage by hiring inhouse animators. Under this program animators such as lington, 10+10 and shoushi joined Mappa and participated heavily in CSM( especially in EDs) This is the way KyoAni and Ufotable(which the current Mappa and the large majority of the industry are a direct opposite of) operate and is the only way for this businesses to sustain themselves and everybody knows it. CSM had dedicated costume designers and animation directors, which is also a rare occurrence to my knowledge. The Photography department had suddenly become more capable and though there's no way to confirm it, I wouldn't doubt the fact that Nakayama worked on that too since his preanimated CSM PV looked 10x better than anything in JJK composite wise and was worked on by the same Dop. The main issue i feel like stems from the conditions Mappa has given them. If they do a movie afterwards I would feel like that would be a much better showing for them and not only quality wise, but also direction wise as i would personally love to see Nakayama's reach go further than his own episodes.

    • @user-og6pb6dd5p
      @user-og6pb6dd5p Рік тому +2

      Hopefully it's gonna be a movie

    • @artimation4710
      @artimation4710 Рік тому +6

      that being said chainsaw man looked amazing

    • @dwiatmika9563
      @dwiatmika9563 Рік тому +1

      clearly he doesn't know what he's doing now that he's gone lmao

    • @Lemon3_Works
      @Lemon3_Works Рік тому

      @@dwiatmika9563 Mostly because Japanese fans were not satisfied by the adaptation of the anime and that he did not "respected" the whole vibe of the manga.

    • @rrbcraftergames3361
      @rrbcraftergames3361 11 місяців тому +11

      @@Lemon3_Worksyeah and that’s a rlly stupid thing to say cause CSM is liter a perfect adaptation from manga to an anime. Just because certain parts aren’t one to one with the mange doesn’t mean it’s bad. The whole point adapting something in a different medium is to take advantage of what anime would have to provide that manga doesn’t. And CSM did that perfectly.

  • @wolfbrigade8042
    @wolfbrigade8042 Рік тому +49

    Even with all the production issues, Chainsaw Man still turned out to be one of the most gorgeous anime I've ever seen. I'm honestly really worried that a potential season 2 won't be able to keep up that level of quality.

  • @paji
    @paji 9 місяців тому +11

    This video has aged like fine wine

  • @stavborochov1673
    @stavborochov1673 Рік тому +33

    Chainsaw man being made in less then one year is insane. It puts how good it does look in a whole new light. I mean it looks like something so unreal and so ambitious it's crazy to think it had just a normal 1 year schedule. I absolutely love the artistic style and think it elevates the story a ton but it just does not seem possible to be done cosistently for possibly three or four 12 ep seasons.

  • @Dephlazgmatus
    @Dephlazgmatus Рік тому +31

    Thank you for giving me knowledge and sadness over the state of my most anticipated shows.

  • @bingevilla
    @bingevilla Рік тому +7

    "everyone wants to work on chainsaw man" is such an interesting concept to me. idk y but when u said that it rlly stuck out to me

    • @kenmaru777
      @kenmaru777 Рік тому +4

      KenArto guy who worked on Jojo 5, goku broly movie, said onTrash Taste in 2020: I want to work o Chainsawman
      Ita a dream of every animator

    • @vivaswanjoshi6981
      @vivaswanjoshi6981 Рік тому

      I get it. But, why CSM? The talent and staff that CSM had could bring the second coming of mob psycho 100 or even Space Dandy. But the production schedule didn't allowed that. Also, there are many projects, but I wonder why every animator loves CSM? Is it because it's super popular or if it is related to sakuga culture?

  • @IAMA1
    @IAMA1 Рік тому +28

    I honestly thought before the series aired that it had a RELATIVELY decent schedule compared to other Mappa productions due to the ambition and announcements made about new work conditions. I knew it wouldn't be anywhere near ideal but i at least thought it was better.
    But 1 SINGULAR YEAR? Jfc that's terrible. I've been praying that they'd slow down eventually but Jigokuraku got me feeling like those prayers won't be answered for a long while

    • @user-og6pb6dd5p
      @user-og6pb6dd5p Рік тому +4

      (sorry for my bad english) 1 to 1.5 year at max. Because of JJK. As he said, The situation that JJK and CSM can exists together is that After JJK season 2 and a CSM movie. Although they funded CSM themselves. I hope they can take their time a bit in this way (a season for one and a movie for another)

  • @carloscauan7967
    @carloscauan7967 Рік тому +16

    You talk about how Spy x Family could be considered "production heaven", but what about the announcement that season 2 and the movie are coming out this year?
    And not only that, but even the recent saying from Tetsuya Nakatake talking about how it's planning for both to release on Fall?

    • @groceryliszt3346
      @groceryliszt3346 Рік тому +12

      Spy x Family has the benefit of being a coproduction between Wit and Cloverworks. Since the work is split, the production schedule is much more forgiving

    • @simplyrohith2163
      @simplyrohith2163 10 місяців тому

      It's a co-production.

  • @KennyMcGavin
    @KennyMcGavin 7 місяців тому +6

    Mappa staff after completing Chainsaw Man: "Phew, well that was a fucking nightmare. But look on the bright side guys, it will never be that bad again"
    Mappa executives inb4 JJK S2: "Aight bet"

  • @navi7402
    @navi7402 Рік тому +4

    I love these videos!
    Now Production HELL: Attack on Titan (as a whole)

  • @kapilpal4864
    @kapilpal4864 Рік тому +10

    Great to see you back man. Can't believe I have my midsem exam tommorow but here I am, watching your video but I seriously couldn't hold back. Anyway, great video as always. Hope to see a Nozomu abe animation breakdown video or a video about the top 5 action animators of japan in your opinion with a little animation breakdown of each.

  • @aria7571
    @aria7571 Рік тому +14

    The schedule could have been much better I agree. But lets not forget that chainsaw man production happen in the midst of global pandemic where Japan & China were hit super hard resulting in 100s of anime getting delayed even to this day. It might have been enough time to polish everything if the circumtances were normal. And also let's not forget they were using their own money and risking everything in this so they might not have the luxury of delaying it even further.

    • @-MankoMan
      @-MankoMan  Рік тому +15

      The pandemic only compounds issues in the industry, because it only affects the negative aspects; large amounts of outsourcing to foreign companies becomes difficult, but that's about it. Projects shouldn't depend on that anyway. Let's not forget we got projects like Yuukaku-hen and mob psycho 3 during the same period, and those shows weren't even a little bit hurt by the pandemic. The freelance and outsourcing industries are to be used as tools, but today for most projects they are necessities.

  • @kaylafaisal4426
    @kaylafaisal4426 Рік тому +1

    Im happy to find your channel! I got so much information about the industry that i aspire to enter myself. Im not demotivated, but its still good to acknowledge the reality of possible overwork and stuff. Plus your knowledge about individual animators who work on this series with their own styles is so wide!

  • @BaamMMV
    @BaamMMV Рік тому +15

    Tatsuya yoshihara said that he didn't need to do much because everyone was so good in chainsaw man
    And I don't think that yoshihara will do much in the black clover movie
    Because the real director for this movie is other guy, Yoshihara is the series director, he will probably animate and maybe storyboard something, but I don't see him doing nearly as much work than he did in CSM

  • @FastCrySquire
    @FastCrySquire Рік тому +4

    Wild that so many people say this show looked bad. Was practically a 12 episode movie. I get that people didn't like how some moments looked, but a lot of the hate was just weird and exaggerated. People were legit saying that the CGI looks like Playstation 1 graphics.
    A lot of it was probably a counterreaction to the massive hype the show had, rather than a genuine opinion about the show's quality.

    • @-MankoMan
      @-MankoMan  Рік тому +1

      Am I getting deja-vu or did I see this exact same comment somewhere else?

    • @FastCrySquire
      @FastCrySquire Рік тому +1

      @@-MankoMan Welcome to the Internet

    • @user-og6pb6dd5p
      @user-og6pb6dd5p Рік тому

      ​​​@@FastCrySquirebullshit opinions always exist, that's why

  • @user-og6pb6dd5p
    @user-og6pb6dd5p Рік тому +21

    Wow. Didn't know that the situation was this messed up. As you said only time will tell what's gonna be happening. Even tho there are good to great productions like VS and tondemo skill and probably the Original movie or even AOT. But manabu needs to understand the limits of the Studio and passion of the animators. (why my comment was deleted 💀). Btw Goated video as usual ❤️❤️

  • @niello5944
    @niello5944 Рік тому +3

    The TL;DW at the beginning and the framing that the director chose something that isn't feasible instead of just the other production issues got me to subscribe. Nice content too.

  • @Felipe-xq7pc
    @Felipe-xq7pc Рік тому +10

    Can you imagine yourself in 2013 making the same video but "Production HELL: Attack on Titan"? Lol would get a lot of hate

    • @catlike9444
      @catlike9444 Рік тому

      @guy x joy oh god the hell arc 💀

  • @JuliusCaesar103
    @JuliusCaesar103 6 місяців тому

    Those first half episodes looked downright unreal. I can't even be mad that the quality took a big dip in the big fight scenes. And love these videos, the animators' names need to be more widely known, they're the blood of the anime we love so much.

  • @DorianDiaconuTV
    @DorianDiaconuTV Рік тому

    Thank you for this informative video!

  • @critterchamber
    @critterchamber Рік тому +11

    I hope they take a break from JJK after season 2, but that's just wishful thinking.
    Anyways it's more likely that they will take a break from CSM since the manga is already extremely popular and pretty far from ending, so they can sacrifice a bit more time on it, even more so if it's a movie which is pretty much guaranteed to receive an amazing audience reception.
    I wonder what direction the AoT team would go after the S4 P3 Ep2 though, and the Jigokuraku and Campfire Cooking teams.
    So currently MAPPA must have 4 teams and the ones under the most pressure are probably the JJK CSM team. I hope the AoT team gets dissipated and goes on to reinforce the Jigokuraku and JJK teams, which would kind of fix some of the production issues.
    The Campfire Cooking team would probably end up creating Idaten Deities but idk.

    • @Dephlazgmatus
      @Dephlazgmatus Рік тому +2

      I hope that one day Hayashi will continue Dorohedoro.

  • @lebyandsmartiel318
    @lebyandsmartiel318 Рік тому +22

    Yeah it really is a shame. We can only hope that Manabu has some sort of plan we're not seeing, but right now that seems unlikely. The final product had episodes far greater than what most animes will ever achieve in their runtime however it makes me think what if they pushed for more?
    My main hope now for the sequel is that Nakayama tries to stick to his vision while allowing for some experimentation and exploration. While also being paired with a better schedule and less caught up staff. For me the biggest downside was Yoshihara's lack of appearances. It felt like he wasn't even the action director due to the schedule and his other priorities.
    In the end we did get like 65% of the what staff can do, which is about 200% relative to other show's quality, but imagine what a 100% output would've looked like...

  • @Mefrius
    @Mefrius Рік тому +2

    Really usefull video. Thank you, bro!

  • @GERPITO3000
    @GERPITO3000 8 місяців тому

    good stuff! just suscribed and liked with notis on, keep doing what u do!

  • @brycecartwright2403
    @brycecartwright2403 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video explaining the state of the production, it helped put a lot of the problems in the final product into perspective. If anything, I’m even more impressed it looks THIS GOOD considering everything that was against them. Btw, I was wondering what your thoughts on the actual content of the show are? (Thoughts on characters, writing, story, humor, favorite character, shit like that. It’s fun to hear what people think considering how out there some of the series can be)

  • @michaelbraxton137
    @michaelbraxton137 Рік тому

    Great video

  • @lowdistortion
    @lowdistortion Рік тому +13

    The rumor about opm being under mappa is unsettling, I hope its false. If they could somehow manage a decent schedule then I'd definitely be fine with it but that won't happen. Also I'd like the ANP to be Seshita

    • @harman4321
      @harman4321 Рік тому +3

      Ong 😔

    • @catlike9444
      @catlike9444 Рік тому +5

      If there opm thats game over for mappa animators and freelancers.

    • @user-og6pb6dd5p
      @user-og6pb6dd5p Рік тому +1

      ​@@catlike9444yeah most of the shows are gonna crash💀. Please be bones.

    • @harman4321
      @harman4321 Рік тому +1

      @@user-og6pb6dd5p Or a co-production between Mappa and Bones
      Hell yes I hope something like that happens at this point 😭

    • @user-og6pb6dd5p
      @user-og6pb6dd5p Рік тому

      @@harman4321 yeah that would be The best opinion honestly. Same with cloverworks and wit situation because they were so busy. Although i think one of the Animation producers of wit was a friend with an Animation producer of cloverworks (I'm not sure). I Don't think it's gonna happen tho

  • @RedDevilAxel
    @RedDevilAxel Рік тому +1

    Still waiting on the Nozomu Abe spotlight video, hopefully you'll release it in the near future. Also, can't wait for you to react or breakdown Demon Slayer season 3 episode 1 as Yuichi Terao will be storyboarding the episode. Great video and keep up the good work😁

    • @catlike9444
      @catlike9444 Рік тому +1

      That infinity castle part was unreal.

  • @badpiggy4177
    @badpiggy4177 Рік тому +1

    Well frik.
    Not going to expect anything from Hell's paradise then lol. Sad since the Manga's pog and is honestly one of my favs
    Great vid

    • @bold9291
      @bold9291 Рік тому +2

      There is still something else to look forward to it. I'd say just don't have high expectations for it and expect for it to be good or ok. It's not gonna be great or really good like some others but it could be ok or good. I know to some that's not ok as every project or manga should get a good anime adaption like CSM or demon slayer or whatever good series out there but with how the current industry is today. It's hard to afford it unfortunately and we can only hope things will go better somewhat but that'll take a miracle at that point with how this industry is. So don't beat yourself too hard on it. Just have reasonable expectations, give it a try and see if you can have fun who knows maybe you might like it.
      It will definitely have some best moments and will look good sometimes that's for sure but it will continuously be ok for the most part which is the best case scenario for Jigo considering it's sandwiched between major IP's around it.

    • @badpiggy4177
      @badpiggy4177 Рік тому +1

      @@bold9291 believe me. My thoughts are the same as yours rn lol.
      Ironic though that the anime will probably suffer the same fate as the manga in that regard then lol. A great little story caught between too many other great stories XD

    • @bold9291
      @bold9291 Рік тому +1

      @@badpiggy4177
      It's like fate running in circles for Jigo. Isn't it kinda hilariously tragic?

  • @shinkey7808
    @shinkey7808 Рік тому +7

    You are right. A year ago when we were told that csm will be released in Autumn, i thought that they had to work on it before jjk 0, cuz i thought that it was unreal for them to finish it all in aa year or so

  • @Gv_rdhan
    @Gv_rdhan Рік тому +4

    I miss you man, wish you would upload a video every single week

  • @rauldiaz8253
    @rauldiaz8253 Рік тому +1

    you are amazing

  • @catlike9444
    @catlike9444 Рік тому +8

    And keep in mind this is a passion project. How the hell a passion project has production issues.

    • @harman4321
      @harman4321 Рік тому +2

      Only in Mappa 💀

    • @3esa2003
      @3esa2003 Рік тому +2

      MOB PSYCHO 100 was a passion project and every season took 3 years

    • @harman4321
      @harman4321 Рік тому +4

      @@3esa2003 Yeah Otsuka needs to do something about CSM and JJk tbh,CSM a passion project fuck no I mean it technically is but schedule was really bad.

    • @NineTnk
      @NineTnk Рік тому +3

      3 letter answer: J J K

    • @catlike9444
      @catlike9444 Рік тому

      @@NineTnk Or mappa and most of the industry Overproduction madness.

  • @ett375
    @ett375 Рік тому +2

    I hope the quality is still the same even though the direction is ambitious.

  • @Mefrius
    @Mefrius Рік тому +7

    For visually chainsaw man was better then demon slayer. Demon slayer impressing by static moments and rare sakuga.

  • @_vyrtualllevi9923
    @_vyrtualllevi9923 Рік тому

    Thanks for your vidéo, as always incredible !
    I hope the run of Manabu to get all the anime will end…
    Where did you get the info that episode 6 have more key frame than DS ? It’s super impressive and I want to know more about this.
    Thank your for your video ! Take care !

  • @BaamMMV
    @BaamMMV Рік тому +2

    New series in Mankoman UA-cam channel
    Production hell: *put any isekai*

  • @debunkedbyeren
    @debunkedbyeren Рік тому +1

    My head started hurting when they picked up hells paradise

  • @whwhujs9408
    @whwhujs9408 Рік тому +4

    i hope u make animation analysis for aot part 3 ;PP

  • @kansen-san
    @kansen-san Рік тому +1

    I always wondered about the things you said in the video since it was easy to notice them because after every csm ep was released i downloaded it and looked at it frame by frame and i did it for every episode

  • @szklon4247
    @szklon4247 Рік тому

    Hi, A lot of ppl say that the newest Solo Leveling trailer has mid/bad animation. Can you make a video about it?

  • @aldomeylano9278
    @aldomeylano9278 Рік тому +1

    Interesting video. But yeah, the moment you said that Episode 8 of CSM shows some cracks on the production issues, the moment I admit that I kind of hesitate so much so that I got a bad vibes about CSM even if I still want to support it. This reminds me of something, do you think that Ryu Nakayama is still a good director for CSM or not?
    Also yeah, after watching some of your video. I can conclude that the production issues are not an isolated incident not just in one studio but considering the high profile stuff that the anime industry had to pump... I can see why it's a problem.

  • @pizzaapplepie1338
    @pizzaapplepie1338 Рік тому +1

    Still waiting on that Nozumo Abe video

  • @junperignon
    @junperignon Рік тому

    I do hope MAPPA especially can eventually slow down and give their employees proper rest.

  • @soupcan_8042
    @soupcan_8042 Рік тому +2

    I​ had a​ bad feeling about it​ since​ it​s anouncement​ cuz Mappa​ was​ doing a​ lot​ of projects, and​ yeah I'm​ not​ wrong.

    • @user-og6pb6dd5p
      @user-og6pb6dd5p Рік тому +6

      The problem is mostly the schedule. But them picking hell's paradise was Really questionble. The AP is The same with AOT 💀

    • @soupcan_8042
      @soupcan_8042 Рік тому +2

      @@user-og6pb6dd5p Mappa​ never learn lol.

    • @soupcan_8042
      @soupcan_8042 Рік тому

      @@user-og6pb6dd5p look like​ Mappa​ just​ pick popular manga​s​ and​ ruined​ them with​ tight time schedule​ but​ people​ will​ watch​ anyway.

  • @user-hy9fc4uk5d
    @user-hy9fc4uk5d Рік тому +1

    It is fascinating to hear about anime production. Thanks! Now, it worries me if JJK S2 will be okay. Is the JJK anime still in production or would it be already done by now?

    • @-MankoMan
      @-MankoMan  Рік тому +7

      JJK S2's production is absolutely not over by now. Most anime keep being produced as they're airing. There are only a few outliers, like mob psycho 100 or KyoAni projects that finish production before airing. Tengoku Daimakyou was almost completed by the time the first episode aired, so it should be completed by now, which is also great.
      On the other end, there's Bocchi the rock, wonder egg priority, Mha S5 etc where the episodes were being turned in just the day before those episodes were to air, which is really bad. I'm assuming that JJK S2 is not even half finished in its production yet, and will join these shows in terms of horrible production practices.

    • @user-hy9fc4uk5d
      @user-hy9fc4uk5d Рік тому +1

      @@-MankoMan OMG. Now I'm really worried. The latest PV looked great tho. I can't imagine how hard work it must be for all the staff and animators under the terrible schedule. As someone without any deep knowledge about anime/anime production, your analysis and content are really interesting and helpful. Thanks and keep going!

    • @-MankoMan
      @-MankoMan  Рік тому +3

      @@user-hy9fc4uk5d Latest PV looked great. So did Bocchi the rock and wonder egg. Having an insanely stacked staff can cancel out a pathetic schedule, though that means they'll have to work to near death continuously.

  • @user-og6pb6dd5p
    @user-og6pb6dd5p Рік тому +1

    22:50 and also this situation is not with all of Mappa shows

  • @user-og6pb6dd5p
    @user-og6pb6dd5p Рік тому +1

    22:08 i think because wada is not The CEO of wit anymore

  • @MazingerDestro
    @MazingerDestro Рік тому

    17:14 could be that these are BD corrections. I guess

  • @hamzaeljid1549
    @hamzaeljid1549 Рік тому +7

    I think that JJK0 didn't have a bad schedule
    the production finished 2 months earlier
    even JJK didn't have big problems because it has a one-man studio like PARK

    • @catlike9444
      @catlike9444 Рік тому +2

      And now park is gone.

    • @groceryliszt3346
      @groceryliszt3346 Рік тому +4

      @@catlike9444 And they have 6 months of production to create 24 episodes for JJK S2. As much as CSM had a massive decrease in animation quality as the season went on, JJK S2 will probably be much worse. I cannot see how MAPPA can continue juggling CSM and JJK like this unless they space out the production schedules more.

    • @catlike9444
      @catlike9444 Рік тому +1

      @@groceryliszt3346 not to mention also having hell paradise

    • @groceryliszt3346
      @groceryliszt3346 Рік тому +2

      @@catlike9444 It's done by a separate team than JJK and CSM, so its impact on JJK S2 should be limited

    • @hamzaeljid1549
      @hamzaeljid1549 Рік тому +1

      @@catlike9444 Not completely
      I mean Sano was AD on AOT and did the OP for isekai anime

  • @catlike9444
    @catlike9444 Рік тому +3

    I would love a video about other animes production like demon slayer or spy x family.

  • @FJUVHJDSR
    @FJUVHJDSR 9 місяців тому +1

    Ever considered doing a review on bleach TYBW!?

  • @SlowneurPvP
    @SlowneurPvP Рік тому

    Do you will watch the new demon slayer movie ?

  • @blackdiamond2253
    @blackdiamond2253 Рік тому

    But if CM suffered all of those issues, why they didn't use each animator's cut in the blu rays that ended up unused because of the schedule? And the blu rays were released quickly compared to lets say AOT which is from the same studio (I know they r different teams). AOT blu rays takes around 6 months (from what I remember), and there are a lot of minor changes but does not justify the time taken. On the other hand, we have CM blu rays which got released around 1 months after finishing!

  • @user-og6pb6dd5p
    @user-og6pb6dd5p Рік тому +1

    6:30 manko, don't you think The schedule that you're probably guessing is too bad for a production like this? Like if it is, then the schedule is pretty bad for this episode alone. And even in the latter half of the episodes. There was episode 10 and Most of 12 and 8 that were pretty much (specially 10) were like The first half. No matter how talented the team is. They can't produce this near movie like for every episode when the schedule is bad for an episode like 6 itself. Like (yname) said JJK and CSM shares like 20% in the staff. And JJK0 and CSM shares like less than 10% if you look at the Credits as he said. And it's pretty much Normal for big veterans to work on Multiple shows (like outside of CSM and JJK) there were other projects in the other studios as well.

  • @Hetsu..
    @Hetsu.. Рік тому

    bro no wonder csm was so "oK" amazing video man

  • @scythe9734
    @scythe9734 Рік тому +1

    Great video as usual, but I have a question that have been bugging me all day. It's AOT realted but PLEASE I need an answer, ANY kind of answers; I just noticed that AOT Part 3 Ep01 had 7, SEVEN, Producers and I don't understand How and Why is that? I have never seen this many producers on any other project, so what does that imply? AOT has always been weird production-wise but this really stunned me for some reason.

    • @carloscauan7967
      @carloscauan7967 Рік тому +2

      What are you talking about? A show having that many producers is not a sign of anything.

    • @scythe9734
      @scythe9734 Рік тому

      @@carloscauan7967 Are you talking because you have info or experience? Or just throwing words without anything to back it up?

    • @carloscauan7967
      @carloscauan7967 Рік тому +6

      ​@@scythe9734 Look at the credits for openings of shows like Noragami, MHA, or Blue Lock. Producers are mostly there to serve as representatives for the different companies on the production comittee, a show having a lot of producers does not mean it's going through any type of issues, it just means it has a lot of companies backing it up.

    • @scythe9734
      @scythe9734 Рік тому +2

      @@carloscauan7967 Okey, thanks for the answer, but I checked AOT The Final Season part 1 and 2 and the production committee didn't change at all but the producers were alot less. Like 3 or 4 producers at most, but now suddenly their are 7? Look I'm not asking this in a negative or a positive way; I simply found it weird and I'm just looking for an answer as to why is it like this all of sudden, and is if there's any meaning behind it.

    • @carloscauan7967
      @carloscauan7967 Рік тому +3

      ​@@scythe9734 Are you sure about that? I just looked and both had 7 producers.

  • @tapz02
    @tapz02 Рік тому +1

    legend, would love a video on why rezero s2 animation fell a lot compared to s1!

    • @carloscauan7967
      @carloscauan7967 Рік тому +2

      S1 had a lot of episodes completely outsourced to Nexus. For S2 however they did not show up.

    • @highspeedrailenjoyer1045
      @highspeedrailenjoyer1045 Рік тому

      @@carloscauan7967 This isnt animation, but the colouring studio also changed from s1 to s2. A large part of rz s2 was also made during Covid.

    • @simplyrohith2163
      @simplyrohith2163 10 місяців тому

      ​@@highspeedrailenjoyer1045also to add the fact that hey had to make Studio Bind

  • @TheSiZaGaming
    @TheSiZaGaming 5 місяців тому

    I love you mankoman

    • @-MankoMan
      @-MankoMan  5 місяців тому +1

      I love you too!

  • @AhidoMikaro
    @AhidoMikaro 10 місяців тому

    I don't understand how the Chainsaw Man anime was so well regarded. There was a lot of negativity while it was airing, now, at least from the wider fanbase it seems like it was overwhelmingly liked, why, I have no idea. Subpar animation, subpar direction. It tried to have this cool and soulful atmosphere around itself, and perhaps some of the people that were making it did feel that way, but the end project didn't give me anything with even half the excitement on screen that the manga was able to constantly achieve.

  • @kenmaru777
    @kenmaru777 Рік тому +1

    She is full 2d 11:13
    I've seen this on sakugabooru

  • @bf3isbestbf359
    @bf3isbestbf359 Рік тому +1

    Aot special episode animation breakdown? Would be a nice break from CSM.

    • @catlike9444
      @catlike9444 Рік тому

      Yeah that ep of aot was amazing.

  • @manikantasripathi755
    @manikantasripathi755 10 місяців тому

    hi brother!! why dont you talk about BAKI ANIME??

  • @danpaterson3098
    @danpaterson3098 Рік тому +1

    Background change again

  • @markomaksimovic7678
    @markomaksimovic7678 Рік тому +9

    I'm glad you mentioned MHA. There was a Yutapon cut in one of the recent episodes that looked like he literally gave up halfway through. That show just keeps going downhill and I don't know what Bones is thinking. When someone like Yutapon has no time to make it look good you know something is seriously wrong. Do they even have anything else lined up after Mob Pcycho cause if not then what is going on with them?

    • @carloscauan7967
      @carloscauan7967 Рік тому +5

      Yutapon was clearly rushed during that cut, but I disagree with saying that it "keeps goind downhill". If anything, S6 has been the most consistently good since S2.
      Also, you say "what is Bones thinking" but this is not their problem. The problem is the anime having a bad schedule because it gets yearly seasons. They made BSD and Mob recently and both of them finished ahead of schedule.

    • @markomaksimovic7678
      @markomaksimovic7678 Рік тому

      ​@@carloscauan7967 The fact that he of all people was rushed tells you all you need to know. It may not be as bad as S5 but I've seen beautifully animated shots that never made it into the final cut because of time constraints. Something is going on with Bones. That said I hope it's because they are working on something else rather than that just being a shitty schedule for no reason cause season 5 was mega rushed and not just in the animation department but in terms of story as well as I'm sure manga readers would agree and that was all (presumably) because of the movie.

    • @carloscauan7967
      @carloscauan7967 Рік тому +6

      ​@@markomaksimovic7678 What do you mean "for no reason"? I literally JUST said why. The anime gets a consecutive 2-cour production on a YEARLY basis. It does not take a genius to figure out why it can't be as a good as other Bones shows, specially when sub-studio C literally only works on My Hero and nothing else.

    • @markomaksimovic7678
      @markomaksimovic7678 Рік тому

      ​@@carloscauan7967 Yeah, I guess you're right. That sounds a lot like the AOT situation. MHA just has a lot more freelancers working on it I guess. Still Mappa's AOT team pulled it off much better imo but I guess you could argue it's due to the use of CGI.
      Whoa there was a lot of guesses there 😂

    • @bf3isbestbf359
      @bf3isbestbf359 Рік тому

      ​@@markomaksimovic7678 The Aot special episode looked great.

  • @xSoporific1
    @xSoporific1 10 місяців тому

    mmm

  • @kenmaru777
    @kenmaru777 Рік тому

    JinRoh, Gjost in the shell, Satoshi Kon
    This is only animes that I cant remember when somebody says KINO
    Chainsawman is a freaking diamond in 2022 when its impossible to do
    Japan works only on stylized anime like Isekai, mha, KnY, even JJK
    This is why I can't enjoy this series (jjk is good)
    Chainsawman is masterpiece like a freaking cinema

  • @maximnaumov11
    @maximnaumov11 Рік тому +1

    It would be great if someone could sponsor MAPPA so that they could just slow down.

    • @bold9291
      @bold9291 Рік тому +3

      Believe me they get sponsors. Like shit the isekai cooking show their doing that's airing right now is literally a sponsor for restaurant businesses that made Mappa to make an anime for them with the restaurants products they make into it for those said businesses as a sponsor for both If I am correct based on what I understand about it (if not please correct me).

    • @harman4321
      @harman4321 Рік тому

      @@bold9291 Wait is that true??
      Wtf I didn't even knew about that

    • @bold9291
      @bold9291 Рік тому +3

      @@harman4321
      It's true and that isekai anime by Mappa is called "Campfire cooking in another world with my absurd skill". It looks to be a very successful venture for Mappa atleast based on the anime and what's it's trying to achieve. It definitely did achieved what Mappa is hoping or expecting for with the anime and it continues to be a mini success for the studio.
      Edit:
      By I mean success I meant profits it's giving to the studio. Japanese folks loves their food and with the anime being about food having delicious delicacy from various big restaurants in Japan as a sponsor making those folks buy those restaurants products or what not because the anime and how it sponsors it is really good and enticing to them. Also the food in the anime and how it's made looks very good and delicious that I sometimes get hungry looking at it with how it's done whenever I watch it. Plus with Mappa being the only one in the committee for that anime they are sure raking in alot of profits from it all by themselves. It's like a mini CSM for them based on how their the only ones in the committee but just a small project from Mappa that is getting a very good success for such a small business venture for the studio.
      I know for sure that the staff and the director is really happy from the success their getting from such a small work of theirs. If this anime is lucky it might even get a season 2 but for now it remains unsure for what it's fate will be after it ends.
      If you're planning to watch it don't expect it to be a very good well written show like it can be really good but not something special when watching it like any other ok isekai in general. The only thing to look forward into it is if you like isekai and cooking and food in general. It has an ok story that isn't as bad as some other isekai shows but nothing special about it. It's just ok. The characters are fine I guess and the humour is ok. But nothing out of the ordinary except for how it has great animations for food and how it's made and some good animation in some other scenes which of course makes sense as it's just a cooking show so it not having good animation for food and cooking would be a great blunder and miss for the anime and the staff to make. Just have a very reasonable expectations to it that is all.

    • @NineTnk
      @NineTnk Рік тому

      @@harman4321 Yes, more like a really big supermarket/mall sponsered. Cooking Isekai is their second fully funded shows by Mappa after CSM. If anything, they want less sponsered (from production committee) and want to self-funded every anime project and so, gets all the profit.

    • @user-og6pb6dd5p
      @user-og6pb6dd5p Рік тому

      ​​@@NineTnk(sorry for my bad english) that's actually better than production committees fuck up their projects. But i hope they will go in a direction that these production issues dosen't exists in the future. Because they definitely want to be independent like kyoani and ufotable although definitely not in their way. And they have a lot more control over their projects because ufotable and kyoto Animation dosen't have The Power to that

  • @swaglord2426
    @swaglord2426 Рік тому +6

    people complaining that the next aot episode is coming in October is just dumb

    • @harman4321
      @harman4321 Рік тому

      Fr 💀

    • @ett375
      @ett375 Рік тому

      it could be in october or december.

    • @catlike9444
      @catlike9444 Рік тому +1

      To be fair they should just change the title. final season part 3 part 2 sounds so dumb.

    • @harman4321
      @harman4321 Рік тому

      @@catlike9444 Ask production committee why they didn't change the title,why asking here

    • @debunkedbyeren
      @debunkedbyeren Рік тому

      Unlike csm it airing later will allow them to work to their full potential hayashi can finally go all out this first part looked incredible

  • @NineTnk
    @NineTnk Рік тому +3

    Remind me again in June when MAPPA Stage 2023 event happen and they announces OPMs3, CSMmovie, Dorohedoro2, and one more big project. 💀💀💀
    MAPPA is so similar to MARVEL rn, where they are currently the biggest name in their industry and pumping 5+ projects a year of what could’ve been perfect, but no.
    As long as JJK, CSM stay popular and profitable, no way Otsuka’s gonna change. Because isn’t that why Wit changed, because AOT was no longer profitable.

    • @harman4321
      @harman4321 Рік тому +2

      That's Manabu Otsuka for you 🗿

    • @NineTnk
      @NineTnk Рік тому +2

      @@harman4321 hell yea my goated businessman, my capitalist master, i kneel 🐐🧎🧎🧎💀

    • @user-og6pb6dd5p
      @user-og6pb6dd5p Рік тому

      I personally hope there will be a dorohedoro 2 when AOT ended tbh

    • @harman4321
      @harman4321 Рік тому +1

      @@user-og6pb6dd5p No let Hayashi rest for some time 😭

    • @Jonas-ob2sh
      @Jonas-ob2sh Рік тому +1

      WIT dropped AoT most likely because they were given a shit schedule and they wanted to do other things besides AoT for the time being.
      The companies that are part of the AoT production committee didn't want a repeat of another 4 years without the anime so they hired MAPPA to do it instead.
      Money was probably another lesser factor.

  • @noobboy5431
    @noobboy5431 9 місяців тому +1

    2:33

  • @iskak1510
    @iskak1510 Рік тому

    yellow

  • @kenmaru777
    @kenmaru777 Рік тому

    Why tondemo skill exist?
    This is good story with most beautiful food I've ever seen
    But not from damn Mappa
    Chainsawman, JJK, Jigokuraku, Dorohedoro, AoT
    Stop it goddamn, enough masterpieces!!!
    OPM??????? I hope its.... Fckk I hope its true, But I don't want to animators suffer

  • @matter5953
    @matter5953 Рік тому

    maybe after aot ends, their production team will move to the current shows and the hell they are in right now will get a little bit better. but how they already took watanabes next movie and the rumor about opm, im getting kinda worried more than i was already.
    but who knows, we can just wait for their stage and see what they got in their pockets already and what they want to take in.

    • @harman4321
      @harman4321 Рік тому +1

      Are talking about that original movie??
      For which they released a trailer a year ago

    • @user-og6pb6dd5p
      @user-og6pb6dd5p Рік тому +1

      ​@@harman4321more than a year ago. Looks like it actually has a pretty good schedule

    • @catlike9444
      @catlike9444 Рік тому +1

      With mappa picking up all the shounen titles under the sun with the ceo wanting mappa to do fire punch as so as possible then things won't change that much.

    • @harman4321
      @harman4321 Рік тому

      @@catlike9444 Ain't no way that's true 💀

    • @bold9291
      @bold9291 Рік тому +2

      @@catlike9444
      Manabu didn't said he'd wanted to take all of Fujimotos works as soon as possible what he said is that he hopes the studio would adapt other Fujimoto works in the future. I seriously doubt Manabu would go for another high profile show from Fujimoto while juggling up CSM and JJK he's smarter than that yeah he's greedily smart but he ain't no dumbass.

  • @ghmario0677
    @ghmario0677 Рік тому +6

    Personally, I get why Ryu Nakayama would want to give a high profile Shonen Jump manga a unique style of direction. However, while a cinematic, realistic style of direction would fit with Fujimoto's core love for movies, I feel like for the actual manga, with the scratchy lineart, exaggerated character expressions and crazy designs, a heavily stylised, wild, raw and sketchy approach to the visuals would've fit much better, and solved the stylised animators not being able to work on it problem.
    I feel like the realistic approach to the adaptation could've worked much better for another kind of series, maybe like Vinland Saga or something.

    • @markomaksimovic7678
      @markomaksimovic7678 Рік тому +7

      Many of the Japanese fans would agree with you. I personally don't mind the realistic approach but that debate is what started the whole "replace Nakayama" petition. I will say though that his approach somewhat hurts the comedy of the show but to each their own.

    • @ghmario0677
      @ghmario0677 Рік тому

      @@markomaksimovic7678 Yeah I agree, it does make the comedy feel less impactful.

    • @groceryliszt3346
      @groceryliszt3346 Рік тому +4

      @@markomaksimovic7678 The way I see it, the cinematic style dampens comedic moments while heightening dramatic moments

    • @badpiggy4177
      @badpiggy4177 Рік тому +1

      This is a take that I never really understood ( P.S read the CSM manga twice )
      The art of the manga really only gets dirty/scratchy etc. when it comes to action scenes. It's pretty clean and simple apart from them ( not like Dorohedoro which is dirty 24x7 )
      Along with that, the character designs, their personalities and even the world itself is very grounded and human. Fujimoto himself also keeps his art consistent throughout the entire series and there isn't exactly much exaggeration.
      And that consistency and human tone is what they focussed whole-heartedly on for the anime.
      I also don't really get what people were expecting comedy-wise. It's literally the same as the manga. Heck, some moments had me laughing more in the anime tbh ( eg : that one moment in the hotel arc when Power laughed at Kobeni )
      Apologies for the rant, I'm just getting a little tired seeing people say that the anime is different from the manga when it honestly elevated a lot of the manga

    • @markomaksimovic7678
      @markomaksimovic7678 Рік тому

      ​@@badpiggy4177 True but there are also other times like when Aki and Denji are kicking katana man in the nuts and Aki says that they're playing a requiem for Himeno. It had me rolling when I read it but in the anime it's a very somber moment with sad music in the background. You could argue that I just interpreted the moment in the wrong way but honestly the manga made it seem like it was supposed to be funny and so I laughed.

  • @andrecostafranca
    @andrecostafranca 10 місяців тому +3

    I wished Mappa gave up Chainsaw Man and focused on JJK.
    Wait, you think I like JJK more than Chainsaw Man? No, I just don't want my favorite manga in the hands of this unstable and crazy studio that is following the same steps of the, now totally broken, Mad House.
    I don't care about jjk. I want Chainsaw Man in the hands of a studio that puts this anime in the hands of someone who actually have read and liked the manga, instead of this insane Ryuu Nakayama guy.
    Have a nice day.

  • @proffjosue1970
    @proffjosue1970 11 місяців тому

    I didn't like chainsaw man

  • @osooso6027
    @osooso6027 Рік тому +1

    will the blueray fix these issues? like with the katana man fight

  • @boi1127
    @boi1127 Рік тому +1

    such a waste of potential hype

  • @Userdoesnotexit
    @Userdoesnotexit 9 місяців тому

    13:10 1 year is more than enough for them tbh.

    • @jayeshkumar5863
      @jayeshkumar5863 9 місяців тому

      now are you still gonna defend mappa after recent controversy 🤡

    • @TheSiZaGaming
      @TheSiZaGaming 5 місяців тому

      Did you even watch the video? This isn't a "recent" controversy. Lol.​@@jayeshkumar5863

  • @Userdoesnotexit
    @Userdoesnotexit 9 місяців тому

    13:10 not really
    many directors work on many things months a head before you ever hear of.
    its common

  • @Userdoesnotexit
    @Userdoesnotexit 9 місяців тому

    11:25 Wrong. if anything it adds more load into prodcution if you have different styles. thays why these only kept for the EDs
    different style means keeping track of all.

  • @Userdoesnotexit
    @Userdoesnotexit 9 місяців тому

    11:49 You need to stop looking at these studios from a fan perspective.
    There is more things that goes behind the scene that just wont make the production smooth regardless if it was pre planned for how long. things get in the way~
    You cant assume the production severity from these few points alone.
    12:47 if the staff pulled through, it means it was not as bad actually.
    There is no such thing as a perfect production pipeline ever.

  • @Userdoesnotexit
    @Userdoesnotexit 9 місяців тому

    9:59 i disagree. he made it a reality. good animator can have styles but better animator should able to animate somewhat realistically as well. not everyshow needs kanada crap all over
    chain saw man was refreshing and i can not see a different take that works for it than this style