Draft Dodger Rag - Smothers Brothers and George Segal
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- From 1967, the Smothers Brothers stood virtually alone, among contemporary performers of that time, opposing the Vietnam War (Conflict, or whatever you want to call it). This was their version of a Phil Ochs' song, "Draft Dodger Rag", with guest star George Segal.
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In 1971, I totally opposed the Vietnam War, but I was #41 in the draft lottery. I was at UCLA, so I had a 2-S student deferment but once I graduated, I would be reclassified 1-A and drafted.
I went to free draft counseling at Papa Bach Bookstore(eternal gratitude to the lawyer who donated his time) and was told to go regularly to Student Health Center and build up a case on my knee, which had had surgery in HS.
Three month before I graduated, I requested an early physical, which was an all-day event with hundreds of others.
Because I had letters about my 'bad knee,' I was directed to a MD specialist, who examined my knee. Then he started writing at his desk. He seemed to scribble for hours.
I finally asked, "What do you think, doc?"
Then he said the words I longed to hear: "You're out, son."
That was far more controversial at the time than what any comedian does today. Younger generations should know what giant balls it took for them to do this kind of material in that era.
The only ones with BIGGER BALLS were the ones who actually enlisted !
Their show was canceled because of their anti war stance…
Let somebody else get killed. I can’t go. Got it.
Yes and Pete Seeger , Tom Paxton , The Weavers before them.
Just listen to Pete Seeger sing *that's what I learned I school*
Their show was cancelled for their outspoken views against the Vietnam War. I remember this song. I can still sing the chorus without missing a word. LOL
Same here i know the entire song
I wish media people nowadays had spines like that.
@@cat_city2009 Wish anyone had spines like that . I remember the show , but was too young to fully get it .
So can l :)
@Sonic the Artist Antithesis of the code of conduct being expressed in that comment section . Don't sing , play an instrument , computer generated tones w/ a bought & paid for beat .
The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour is one of the most important programs in television history!
Make THIS America Great Again, I miss it.
I had absolutely no idea George Segal played the banjo and sang! Hidden gem.
Underrated entertainer, in a big way. He's had a good long run though. I wonder if he ever picked a string with Steve Martin?
He didn't play the banjo. He tuned it like a ukulele and just stummed chords. He also appeared regularly on various talk shows with it and with the Beverly Hills Unlisted Jazz Band as well as making at least one album. All of that stated, he wasn't much of a singer or musician.
Hey! I saw this on TV back in the day, My Mom, as I recall, was scandalized, my Dad (air medals in Pacific and Europe theaters in WWII and in Korea and I don't know where the distinguished flying cross came from, he never talked about it) chuckled.
@@bessied.5694 -- He was more of a musician than someone who never even attempted to play an instrument. Being able to play chords quickly and cleanly while singing is a skill in itself. As an actor, his livelihood didn't depend on his singing well. IMO he sang at least as good as....say.... William Shatner.
Back in 1971, I sang this on on the U.S. Selective Service bus as they drove us to our pre-induction physical in Memphis. When they has us strip down, they discovered I was also wearing my pink nylon boxer shorts. Oddly enough they didn't take me, even though my draft lottery number was 7 [out of 365].
Ah haa haaa haaaa. Good one.
That trick actually worked?
I was overweight and generally not in good physical shape, but just as obviously intelligent. I think they decided I would be much more trouble as a conscript than I could possibly be worth. @@janinecox256
It warms my heart knowing that despite not being as recognized as Seeger or Dylan, the world will never forget Phil Ochs. Rest in peace, you beautiful bastard!
The Highwayman❤
I'm about to turn 83 and never even heard of him until this song.
I wonder why Phil wasn't invited on the show to sing his own brilliant song. I suspect he was too hot (i.e. committed, brave, outspoken) for CBS. The suits probably shuddered at the mention of his name.
Sorry to say, I cannot remember the man.
RIP, George Segal. And thank you.
Instablaster
I love listening to him playing the banjo. I remember him doing it in an episode of "Just Shoot Me."
And sadly Tommy is now gone. Thank goodness for videos like this to remind us of the brothers and their friends.
RIP Tom
OMG. I didn't recognize him until you mentioned it.
Fair well to Tommy smothers. I sure enjoyed your music growing up in those days. Thanks for all the songs and jokes.
Remembering George Segal: 1934-2021 RIP to you sir!
My grandfather only went to school until he was 13, but he was very wise. He said that old men keep starting wars, because they feel safe staying far from the battles, while young men get sent to fight and be killed in those wars. There would be far fewer wars if the old men who start them had to fight them themselves, hand to hand, until they destroyed each other.
Thank you for posting this song by the Smothers Brothers. It was absolutely brave of them to sing such an anti war song as this.
They were some of the bravest men, EVER!!! AND, FUNNY!! Love you, Tommy! Rest In Paradise. 🙏🏽💔😥
May I say in addition to the brashness of doing this song itself, the amount of skill and talent to be able to improv, harmonize as well as focus on each other while playing their instruments is amazing. Someone I love was friends with them.
I was 18 in 1965 and thought the same as now, that war was beyond stupid. Same for Bush's Iraq invasion. The Smothers Brothers were the best, if only we could learn from them.
Phil Ochs deserved mention - very sad story of an important figure being slowly forgotten.
I Think they murdered him. But what a great job the boys did on his song here, love it.
Yes Phil Ochs!
I learned this brilliant Phil Ochs' song at a summer camp in Ireland in1974 from an amazing 15 year old Jewish New Yorker girl. I never bothered to write down the words, because I remembered them instantly from the first hearing. I have played it many times since, and in my college days it always went down a bomb at the folk clubs I used to play in. Of course, those were pre-internet days, so this is actually the first time I have ever heard it performed ... some 47 years later!
Oh, Phil Ochs...Gone for so long now. Will always miss him and his amazing songwriting and singing.
Phil Ochs' daughter is working on a film about him.
God, I can remember the Smothers Brothers singing this song. I am really getting old, but at least I do remember it!
We are all going to be forgotten some day. But Phil Ochs, and this song should never ever be forgotten, if you love life, freedom and justice!
Not all of us will be forgotten. It is important for us to do good things and fight for things our parents taught us. We should try to do good and art so that our efforts be remembered, but just as important that our parents, grandparents and their inspirations be remembered as much as we wish to be remembered. Aspire and inspire for as long as we have breath!
My uncle sang this in WW2.
Phil got ideas from somwhere.
He updated it to our time.
@@IMeMineWho What makes you believe our parents had any grip on reality? My mother was a good part American Indian, my dad was from England and she was much more educated than my dad. Growing up in rural Oregon, I developed an early interest in astronomy, which my dad had absolutely no interest in at all...his main interest was baseball, which in essence is grown men still playing children's games. (Once heard that on a car radio talk show)
I have witnessed classic 'flying suacers' up close, going all the way back to the late 60's....We are NOT alone within this vast two trillion galaxy universe. I have attended the McMenamins UFO conference three times within the last five years, where I've chatted with many others with similar experiences and viewpoints. That is MY reality. BHE
@@kathleenferguson3296 Interesting. I never heard this until just recently.
I first married in 1960. Not too long after that, the Viet Nam war began to heat up and you cannot believe how much I sweated about being drafted. My first son was born in '63 and one of the great things about it.....altered my draft status.....and two days after it happened, I made a trip 20 miles to the local draft board to make sure my status was altered.
I've long said....When war is inevitible, if the countries leaders had to do battle, say a duel via handguns, war would end overnight. BHE
@@IMeMineWho My father, bless his heart, taught me to steal, gamble and rob....and, I've attained quite a sucessfull career from it! Must have done me well, for even at the age of 82, still ride a blazingly fast motorcycle down my hilly driveway to collect the mail....a Honda 50cc.
George Segal (RIP) on banjo?!
On a Phil Ochs tune!
This clip is a treasure!
Always loved it when George played his banjo.
There's nothing good to watch on television anymore, certainly nothing with the mix of intelligence and humor of the Smothers Brothers, and great music too.
Watch the goldberg's. He is magic on it
@@luiscorreia847 He has never given a bad performance.
There’s tons good on tv, but nothing like this
Great live cover of Phil Ochs's classic antiwar song by three thorough professionals.
RIP Tommy Smothers.
I wish I would have known about this song when I got drafted in 1968! Later we sang it in the jungle of Phu Loi. Along with, we gotta get out of this place.
As a child (of the 60s), my first exposure to comedy was through a Smothers Brothers record and my first exposure to Phil Ochs was the Draft Dodger's Rag. Putting these two together is like a little dream and I'm so glad I got to see it here.
The Smothers Brothers originally came to CBS in 1965 in a half-hour sitcom that neither Tom nor Dick liked. Neither did the major TV critics.
At the end of the first season, the Smothers' sitcom ended, but the Smothers Brothers were still under contract to CBS and had to do some sort of show.
The two suggested an hour-long variety show aimed at viewers between 15 and 35 years of age.
CBS readily agreed, thinking "What could possibly go wrong?".
They soon found out.
Wow. Actually listen to the words of this song. This is seriously heady material to be promoting on network television back in 1967. A bit FU (couched as a silly song) to the common civilian who talks with a big mouth but finds an excuse to fight. No other program even came close to expressing this kind of political theater at the time. Hats off to the Smothers!
they eventually managed to get their show cancelled for being "too controversial" and pissing off the censors and the establishment with satire that targeted the war, the president, racism etc.
Not aimed at the "powers that be" as much as the common civilian that talks about how much we need to go to war for this or that, then find an excuse why they personally should be exempt.
What I really love is that even grouchy, crochety, old Lyndon Baines Johnson knew that Freedom of Speech meant that even the President of the united States could be made fun of by a couple of folks singers, and he took the fact with humor, not sour grapes...
And FU to the powers that be, from me, today.
@@NondescriptMammal , remember, according to Tommy Smothers, the show was never canceled. They were fired!
R.I.P to the great George Segal. From holding your own against Burton and Taylor to trading laughs with David Spade and Wendie Malick to Retired at 35 to The Goldbergs. A life well lived!!
💩 shit
George could do ANYTHING ❤❤❤❤❤
EPIC!
Remembering you George you rebel you. Rest in Peace.
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@@draftkingo5338 eat it
The best variety show of it's tme!
My whole family watched the show together!
I remember that song from first run on TV closer to sixty years ago than fifty.
I never thought I'd hear it again.
Thanks for posting it.
Rest In Peace George. Thanks for the laughs
This has to be the best anti War song of all time, but there are many others, and I love them all. IF the rich want War, let them die on the front lines!
Interestingly, that was how the Romans did it. When they had a draft, the children of the rich and powerful were the first called up.
Have you heard the French song "Le Déserteur" by Boris Vian? It was banned from the airwaves in France in the 50's. In English, "The Deserter". Here it is with good English subtitles.
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I don't know of a version sung in English, though I heard that the Chad Mtichell Trio recorded it but haven't been able to find it;
I grew up during the Vietnam War.I just love political songs and satire.
What did you think of War Pigs by Black Sabbath?
And Country Joe and the Fish And it's one two three what are we fighting for..
After learning the Smothers' father had been captured by the Japanese in WWII and died in captivity, I understand their public dislike of War and the draft.
And Dickie served in the Army Reserves right out of high school. They had given quite enough by then.
If our world leaders were to be placed on the front battle lines, in the trenches, war would end just like that!
Another great Phil Ochs song!
I remember watching this when it was first broadcast , astonished that they got away with it! But thought it was funny as hell!
Likewise
that changed a few of the words in the song yes sarge give them hell I wish you well kill a thousand or so and if you ever have a war without blood and gore I'll be the first to and " I hate jo an lye and I hope he dies"
For being basically a goofball comedy musical act, almost a throwback to vaudeville... they were as brave and bold as anybody on network TV at the time. and their humor had more depth and nuance than most comedians of the era. And yet I have to admit my favorite song of theirs was the uncontroversial Mediocre Fred.
They used the vaudeville image as a camouflage. Once Tom Smothers got creative control in the third season, he wasn’t shy about tackling things that were network taboos.
I used to sing this way back in 1975 draftdodger rag.. even got applause for it
You kept us laughing throughout the 70’s
Thnx Much George..You RIP..
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this was 39 years before i was born. actual banger song I completely agree with
Is this song and maybe other instances where it added up to their show being banned? They are courageous risking their livelihood and reputation. I quit watching television in 1968 so sometimes I watch parts that were the best of it. I vaguely remember this show and fun to see it now. Yes it was divisive times then like it is now the Smothers were heroes. I was kicked out of living with a family I paid room and board to while going to vocational school because I was against the Vietnam War, didn't like Nixon, and was going to vote for George McGovern presidential candidate considered a liberal at the time. I was consistently very polite and not overbearing about my point of view but I was rudely told to leave as soon as possible.
On Network TV, too. Whoo. Seriously putting it out there.
David Powell- Right?!
Yeah... Except, it got them kicked off the air!
@@billanthony7896 Courage isn't always rewarded the way we want . Still , no ones commenting on the guys that cancelled the show . Smothers Brothers & their guests had backbones .
RIP George and now, RIP Tommy
I really Love you Hayden Panettiere
I smile at some of the lines they homogenized for the censor, but my favorite change was Tommy turning "epileptic fits" to "psychedelic fits."
is there a russian translation somewhere?
There should be!
🥀RIP George Segal
George Segal is hilarious as "Pops" on The Goldbergs!
This is what got them booted off CBS, and it completely changed television and politics.
Next time you're watching Fox News or MSNBC think of this. Neither network would dare play it today. Why make love?
Why make war?
Let's make money talking about it!
George Segal (1934-2021)
Make love, not war. 😍
Wow the Afghan War sure missed these kinda songs on mainstream prime time TV.
Donald Trump's theme song. Remember that the Smothers brother's father died in a Japanese POW camp (actually killed by US ships.)
Used to watch them whenever I was able to. Missed most of the 1967 shows, because I was in the army.
Thank you for your service. I hope you pull through okay.
Still holds up in 2020. MAKE LOVE NOT WAR I am 23 and Thats my main motto in life.
RIP Tom Smothers (1937-2023).
I aways liked George Segal. I liked him twice as much when he had a banjo in his hands! RIP fella
I grew up with these guys and NEVER heard this one before. Believe me, I sweated the draft because of the Viet Nam war being hot and heavy at that time.
The difference between humor and seriousness. Phil Ochs never had to apologize for this song and never felt bad about it, I'm sure. I think Country Joe Mcdonald really did feel sorry about his "Vietnam Song". Equally accurate but one made us laugh.
RIP George and Tommy 😔
They should've given credit to Phil Ochs
They did , read the description
Absolutely. Right on✌️
This is still more effective than the original. Sorry to see George Segal go;
RIP Tommy and George
Phil Ochs' commentary.
You dont have to agree with em, but they got a point. And the balls to Express it.
Yes
I too was one of the war's staunch opponents. But my beef was with the government, not the soldiers who fought, many of them conflicted for the same reasons that we were. The soldiers were there for one of several reasons -- (1) -- They believed in the war and the Domino Theory. (2) They didn't necessarily believe in the war, but they believed the government must know better than they did, so they supported it. (3) They opposed the war, but they'd been drafted, and the only alternatives in those days were to go to war, go to Canada (nobody thought the ex-pats could ever come back), or go to jail. Hobson's Choice. Meanwhile, the government sent a half-million military people over there at the peak. 50,000 Americans were killed, along with several million non-Americans. PAT PAULSEN FOR PRESIDENT!!!
+Steve Scheiber Sadly Steve - I remember wearing a bracelet with a Viet Nam soldier's name in grade school to show our support for the troops, not the war. Why it is sad... is because I don't remember the name. If I'd been older I too may have joined in some demonstrations. AND YES Pat Paulsen for President! That was great!
+Steve Scheiber And the elite made a LOT of money from it.
I Think we lost 58 thousand, and they lost over 2 million plus, but on the bright side, the military industrial complex did very well, and are still going strong. JFK. tried to (slow) them down on Dwight D Eisenhowers advice, but we all know how that turned out.
I think you would find that almost all of the "war's staunch opponents" criticized the government and not the soldiers who fought. Anyone who tells you otherwise is pushing propaganda. And in fact, many of the war's staunch opponents were Vietnam veterans.
@@duncanmitchel8994- That's complete and utter nonsense. The anti-war movement was filled with people who took it out on the military personnel that served. Who do you think coined the term "baby killer?" I'm sure not (every) protester blamed combat vets, and as you point out, some combat vets came back to join the anti-war movement. It's revisionist history, though, to try to pretend there wasn't a lot of animosity between vets and protesters, especially during the years 1966-1972!
How many of our best were thrown into this useless war and never came back ? Good Lord, the SB's were so right. I lost too many friends. May LBJ rot in his grave.
Those were the days. Let perpetual light shine upon George Segal. Thank you George for the wonderful memories.
I use to fix tvs for a living and my eyes keep being drawn to the left. Those vertical lines could be fixed by changing a capacitor.
Back then the electronics always seem to have had crappy capacitors!
Phil Ochs.
RIP Tommy 😢
Rest In Peace , George.
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Wasn’t around to in those days. Great music was before my time. But I love how it still lasts.
RIP Tom Smothers
I'm 69 years young. I remember this song.
Oh, I'm just a typical American boy
From a typical American town
I believe in God and Senator Dodd
And a-keepin' old Castro down
And when it came my time to serve
I knew, "Better dead than red"
But when I got to my old draft board, buddy
This is what I said
"Sarge, I'm only eighteen, I got a ruptured spleen
And I always carry a purse
I've got eyes like a bat and my feet are flat
My asthma's getting worse"
"Yes, think of my career, my sweetheart dear
And my poor old invalid aunt
Besides, I ain't no fool, I'm a-goin' to school
And I'm working in a defense plant"
"I've got a dislocated disc and a wracked up back
I'm allergic to flowers and bugs
And when the bombshell hits, I get epileptic fits
And I'm addicted to a thousand drugs"
"I got the weakness woes, I can't touch my toes
I can hardly reach my knees
And if the enemy came close to me
I'd probably start to sneeze"
Though CBS did cancel their show for political reasons in '69, I think the network deserves serious credit for keeping them on as long as they did, considering the political climate and stifling censorship of the period.
True. They kept em on as long as they could until pressure from politicians and sponsors won. Sad. America...land of free speech...as long as politicians agree and money is not offended.
I watched them nearly every Sunday night. Unfortunately, they stopped being entertaining near the end of their run. The political jabs stopped being funny and audience share dropped
and yet it was just 2 years later when cbs began airing 'all in the family', which not only featured the anti-war liberal character michael stivic (rob reiner), but also the constant classic satire of the 'establishment' in the form of one archie bunker (played masterfully by carroll o'connor). material, topics and stances that the network censored from smothers brothers won them multiple emmy awards with the sitcom.
My God, what a performance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any song about draft controversy should reference both Elvis Presley and Muhammad Ali, as they had controversial drafts when they were leading youth rebellion. RIP Tommy
Rest in peace, Tommy!
This was one of many segments that caused considerable headaches for CBS-TV censors.
I had heard that initially, the Smothers Brothers show was broadcast live (to the East Coast; on a three hour tape delay to the West Coast), but in 1968, CBS insisted that the show be taped in advance so censors could better control the program's content.
a cleaned up version!!
George such a tale nt smothers brothers so good
Love you George. Miss you
In 1973, I was also Canada bound. Luckily, that's the year they ended the draft.
Smothers’ dad was a West Pointer who died on the Bataan Death March!!
The good old days when we stood up to the leaders of our terrorist regime.
Who's "we" here? Most Americans did not stand up to our terrorist regime. And nowadays at least as many Americans stand up against our government's crimes. Not that much has changed.
@@duncanmitchel8994 still fighting the same fight as we always have. At least we aren't diminishing.
Oh there are still people standing up...Taylor Swift, Springsteen...wait 'til fall 2020 when there will be DEMOCRACY concerts everywhere!
I so loved this! Happy to see this! ♥️🙌🏼
it bends my mind to think of a time when the Smothers Brothers were edgy
I had no idea that George Segal could play the banjo.
He used to take it on the Johnny Carson Tonight Show or other talk shows even. He was in more movies in the 70's than television. Now he's a grandfather on The Goldbergs. He used to act opposite Glenda Jackson!
Doctor Quackenbush; He couldn't play the banjo. All he did was put it in ukulele tuning and strum chords.
@@bessied.5694 Ya learn something new every day.
they forgot bone spurs
Still a disqualifier for service to this day
@@davidreed3357 If they are real.
@@SandfordSmythe are you fucking kidding me? Bone spurs are 100% real. They will keep you out of the service today. Just about every athlete has em.
A bone spur is a nob of calcium that can grow along the edges of bones such as the vertebrae of the spine. The clinical name for them is osteophytes, or exostoses, both of which mean “bony projection.” The most common location where we find bone spurs is where bones meet each other.
The leading cause for bone spurs is joint damage such as osteoarthritis, untreated herniated or degenerated spinal disc, damage to tendons, or other joint damage.
Other patients who are at higher risk from bone spurs could be athletes. Overuse of joints or repetition movement raises the risk due to physically intense movements over a long period of time. Genes often have the most significant role in the development of spurs; if your parents had them, you’d probably develop them too. Other factors that can lead to this condition include poor diet and obesity (patients with gout are at high risk for bone spurs).
You may think of the bone spur as your body’s way of trying to compensate for any of the conditions I’ve described by growing a little extra bone. The body doesn’t do a great job of planning where to put it. The little nobs of calcium usually develop around the edges of the vertebrae or along the facing surfaces of the joints. Sometimes the “nobs” resemble small beaks.
Most of the time, bone spurs will not cause problems because they grow in areas where we do not notice them. On occasion, however, they can grow in just the right spot where it will impinge onto a fiber of nerve and possibly compounding a protrusion from a herniated disc. In these cases, you may also be diagnosed with spinal stenosis (narrowing of the spinal passages).
When a bone spur begins to rub against other bones or press on nerves, that’s when you may experience pain, stiffness, tingling, and if left untreated over a long term, numbness and muscle weakness. And that’s when you need to seek treatment.
Conservative treatment for bone spurs begins with non-surgical methods such as medication, anti-inflammatories or muscle relaxant pain medications. Treatment may run for 4 to 6 weeks; however, this is palliative because it provides temporary management and relief for the pain. I will often prescribe physical therapy and muscle strengthening to increase movement, fortify the affected area, and encourage joint strength.
The problem is that bone spurs do not go away on their own. Keep in mind also that bone spurs may be an indication of other issues such as degenerating or herniated discs. Eventually, some surgery may be required.
For patients who visit me at my private practice in Beverly Hills, CA, there are two standard minimally invasive surgical procedures we may consider. The first of these is micro-laminectomy where the surgeon creates a small opening in the bone (lamina of the vertebra) to gain access to the nerve area so that we can make more room for the nerve. We may also consider microdiscectomy where we remove the portion of protruding discs that are compressing nerves. During any of these procedures, we may even shave off bone spurs that are also impinging on the nerve.
Both of these procedures are minimally invasive, facilitated by one or more small incisions to gain access to the affected area with microsurgery tools like a microscope. The process is usually performed on an outpatient basis, which means you’ll be in the doctor’s office for a few hours, then back home for recovery.
If the condition worsens or none of the more conservative approaches is successful, then you and your surgeon will consider more invasive solutions such as artificial disc replacement (ADR).
With ADR, we can reverse the effects of joint overuse and injury by merely replacing a degenerated disc with an artificial one. The procedure is exceptionally advanced, and clinical research data shows a very high success rate in pain reduction and restoring the full natural motion of the spine.
Over the years, having now implanted thousands of artificial discs for both the cervical (neck) and lumbar (lower back) of the spine, I have seen the superior effectiveness of artificial discs. Moreover, I have had many of the same procedures to solve my own long-term spinal problems and can relate with my patients based on my personal experience.
Key to success is that every patient must be assessed individually. Everything depends on a thorough examination of the health of the patient and careful reading of test results. The most crucial factor of all is the benefit to the patient.
That’s how we are greater than better!
@@davidreed3357 I didn't say that bone spurs were not real condition, I questioned a diagnosis done by a physician with very close ties to Trump's father.
@@SandfordSmythe lol. Of course. Snd Bidens deferments? Do you question his? Probably not
Gotta make a fuck the draft playlist
The Smothers brothers were a great team. They spoke truth to power; & they were funny too.☮️
Was George segal a draft dodger also. I wish I knew then what I know now, I too would have resisted.
David Doran He was more than likely past draft age, and he might’ve already done his military service
@@jennifersman7990 could you check on this?
@@jennifersman7990 George was in the army. Didn't think He was older than I a
Old German Saying:
We get too soon old, and too late smart.
CBS fired them back then now they would be welcomed back.
RIP Tommy! Love this song!