How to Charge Your EV on the Street
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- DC Fast Chargers aren't a good solution for daily EV charging, and most curbside charging options don't work well either. On-street electric vehicle charging is needed, but today's options are ugly, large, expensive, and inconvenient. My company, Coul St., is solving this with a new type of EV charger: www.coulst.com
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0:00 The Problem
1:24 DC Fast Charging
3:51 Streetside Level 2
7:06 The Philly Experiment
8:30 The Solution - Авто та транспорт
Here we go Coul St!🔋
I have a dream. If I won the lottery, I'd make boutique charging "malls" kinda thing. Take a 3 story parking garage. Load it with Various EV chargers (L1 with airport shuttle), L2 for cheap, various L3, invite food trucks every day, maybe a 24 hour taco truck. Coffee shop, Dog parklet, Maybe a place to show movies on a projector and can tune into it by radio or something like a drive-in theater.... Sounds awesome.
Sounds fun 👍🏼
I was about to comment/propose what you demonstrated at the end of the video. Cable needs to go with the vehicle, not the electrical post in the street.
Great, original coverage! Thanks for the video!
Thanks Steve! Glad you liked it.
Can't wait to find out what you've been building!
Soon…
I'm very interested to follow what you are doing. 👍
Humans are pretty darn adaptive, if the grid needs more support, we will figure it out. Heck, everybody’s complaining that robots will take over our jobs, creating a more robust electrical grid is a great job for humans at the moment.
I agree. We’ve solved bigger issues before.
Agreed. Many of the EV owners waiting in line at fast chargers live locally and don’t really need fast charging or it’s high cost. They do need Level 2 charging where they park over night or at work. Unfortunately we tend to think faster is better and end up paying a lot more for it.
Couldn’t agree more. Super slow, like 120v slow, is better than DCFC for most people - if only everyone had access to AC charging.
@@chargeeverywhereI have a phev with only a 20kwh battery and 120 volt is too slow for even my small battery overnight. So I had a 240-volt outlet installed on the outside wall of my garage and I bought a portable charger and I plug and unplug whenever I need it which kind of looks like what you were doing at the end. If your company is installing 240 volt outlets and somehow being able to bill the electricity for it I think that's great but I don't think 120 is fast enough. In either case I really like the way you highlighted the problems and I wish you every success.
Babe, wake up, Josh is making videos again.
Glad to be back 😊
As I watch this---we just got a demand alert here in Los Angeles ---the DC chargers across the street from my work are offline again due the heat ( 6-24-2024 high heat ).
Is that because the grid just can’t handle the extra load? I don’t think many people understand how much power those things take! Not practical if everyone or even 1/3 of people need to use them daily.
@@chargeeverywhere Edison started dumping non-essential loads. But you are right on demand charges--today my shop ( office) meter went to an ungodly tier! Here in California, the Grid managers have to buy power on the spot market---and today when the Country is in a massive heat wave it's Nuclear as no wind is blowing here in SoCal! I have a non DC PHEV so its AC for me!
Is it j3400 station side with BYOC and the idea is you get permitted a pedestal on the side of the road and bring your own cable? Maybe the cable even has a tag in it so it bills the right person.
Yes. I like your line of thinking! NACS station-side BYOC as it should be in North America. This is obviously a custom solution, as the socket equipment didn't exist. Also, we have moved away from only a pedestal mount to equipment that can be deployed on just about any structure.
I'm interested in 240v 20 amp service for the cheap wiring and installation costs. Bringing your own cord also seems sensible.
That is a very interesting sweet spot that not many folks think of.
In my Dutch town, I have 2 22KW public chargers at 200 yards from my home. If I will buy an EV, I will have to use them. They cost 50% per Kw more than normal house electricity. I hope they will be available when I need them, because 2 chargers for 1000 homes is I think not enough. Thyere are more chargers in town, but not within walking distance from my home.
If you had an EV and you had a120v outlet anywhere near where you park then you could charge off of that most of the time and use fast chargers when needed.Much more simple that non EV people have false fears about
I’ve heard you Dutch have just about the highest charger densities in the world. 2 for 1000 homes doesn’t seem like enough though. Anything lower powered nearby?
You can request more chargers at your city council.
Friend lives in a condo. Spent 90 minutes looking for a charger. They were damaged or offline.
Do they have a 120v outlet nearby?
I second the 120v outlet approach. It works for nearly everyone most of the time. Sure beats a 90 min. wait.
Woman bemoaning installation of EV charger next to her house is great example of the North American NIMBY.
4:40 its as good place as any. Its a chicken and egg problem. EV chargers will beget EVs
It is. The issue tends to be cost for utilization. If the city isn’t seeing much utilization within a short timeframe I’m not sure they will jump at adding more. This can be improved by a very good community study though.
Any 277v support?
Untethered EVSEs (AKA BYOC), as common in Europe and finally authorized in the US by J3400 -- if and when it's ratified -- are surely part of the solution... and it looks like that's what you're doing here. Compact, unobtrusive, and hopefully vandal-resistant.
Some neighboorhoods in the US already have posts near the street that would make suitable hosts: hitching posts. This is an idea I've been kicking around for years, but never pursued...
Yes, I’ve been glad to see the industry moving in that direction. 3 years ago when I started down this path, I realized BYOC was the way to go, but virtually no one in North America even considered it back then. I’m not sold on a Type 2 socket for the US though.
A supercharger is not the solution to every charging problem.
Couldn’t agree more.
The next innovation will be wireless charging.
Perhaps. There are plenty of folks working on it.
Wireless charger at traffic lights ...
@@aperitifs wireless chargers at your local store parking lots, on street parking, at fast food drive-throughs. Even special toll road lanes with wireless charging.
If u can’t charge at home you can’t get ev
It’s tough
It is a good thing that people haven't gone crazy about EVs, the grid isn't ready.
The grid wasn’t ready for air conditioning when was first being adopted. The “grid” expanded five fold in twenty years (1950 to 1970) in response.
This is the way.