Why You Should Use MASTIC for Subway Tile Backsplash
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- Mastic is an organic adhesive used to install tile. There are some drawbacks to using mastic but used in the right application it can be faster, easier, and more economical to use than thinset mortar to adhere tiles. The extended open time, the non-sag properties, and the ready to use feature can lead to a more successful installation especially for a DIY'er who doesn't have experience mixing and applying thinset mortar. The best areas to use mastic as a tile adhesive would be in interior dry areas such as kitchen backsplashes and walls. Although mastic can be used to install porcelain tiles, it is best used for installing ceramic wall tiles.
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Very helpful
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THANKYOU I’ll let you know how it turns out ! First time lol tiling bathroom walls
I have learned a lot with you Isaac, thank you for sharing your experiences
Appreciate the excellent tips, detailed explanations of why and why not, very valuable. TY
Thanks for sharing your information on mastic. I learned something by watching.
Good, clear, useful explanation. Thank you
Thanks Issac! This is gonna save me so much time and money, and I know I can trust your advice!
As always great information thanks Isaac.!.!.!
Great video great info I agree I literally have 20 buckets at home ready to go at all times. Especially with all the 3 by 6 backsplash we do in downtown..
Thank you for taking the time to share this information.
1. any issue with mastic over painted dry wall
2. what's the largest tile you'd put on a wall with mastic?
You're the man! Love your videos. I'll be using mastic today on our backsplash with some subway tiles. Perfect video at the perfect time. Thanks.
Very knowledgeable young man!!!
Thanks for the advise
Excellent information!
Great video. Thank you
thank U, Isaac, sharing your knowledge to us!!!!
Great video Isaac!
Great information. Thank you! We love you, too.
Great information
So good!! I have made some mistakes in the past and have had questions about when to use which one. This was very thorough and specific. Thank you Isaac.!!!
Excellent video. Thanks buddy.
So I have Mapei Type 1 and it says to apply to drywall after removing all paint and applying Mapei Primer T. Is removal of the paint absolutely necessary? I am really having a hard time not going to the brown portion of the paper and my understanding is that's too far to go, I will have issues,bubbling unless I reseal it.
Thank you so much!! You hit all the solid points and all the possible issues that you can have with mastic my bathroom floors previous owner use mastic for the floors I noticed a foul smell long story short tons and tons of mold tiles came up rather quickly with no effort whatsoever because these floors were constantly wet because my children think they’re in a water park when they take a shower anyways thank you so much keep doing the videos
Thanks coach!!
Thank you for your insight. Very helpful
Thanks, good info
very helpful, thank you
Thank you
Great information Isaac. Thanks so much.
What about mastic with 8x8 ceramic? I noticed you mentioned subway tile or 6x6 is 8x8 too big?
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Super helpful!!
Excellent explanation thank you kindly, much appreciated cheers
Thanks for your time to prepare such a great video for us 🥰
Using this set is still adequate though yea?
Wow! Thanks for sharing your knowledge, experience and opinion. You are a good man for encouraging others to learn a trade. Cheers!
great information!!
Thanks
Thank you for sharing this great information
Getting ready to stack some 4x8 ceramic vertically for a kitchen backsplash DIY & your videos have been invaluable! Thank you so so much!
Multimax lite is the mastic of thinsets. When I was a finisher back in the day my mechanic used mastic to install porcelain sheet 2"x 2" (1'x 2') all through out this rec center over painted floors. 25 years later it's still there.. blows my mind every time I think about that. That's a practice you'll never see from me.
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I used Mastic on 18x18 porcelain floor tiles in my living room and my tub surround walls that were just green sheet rock not cement boards. The one bathroom was done in 2004 and my other bathroom and high traffic living room area was done in 2009. All holding up to this very day with no problems other than being a little bit out dated. I think the problem may be if you use it where the tile spends a lot of time submerged underwater like a shower floor. Love the stuff.
I guess I got lucky, used mastic on my shower walls over ten years ago and no problems.
I just hung some porcelain on a none shower wall and will give it extra dry time before grouting. Just about to tile a shower with porcelain so i will go back to thinset.
Cheers
Mastic gives a tenacious bond, great for backsplashes with ceramic tiles :) great video and editing Isaac! Luke gave you a shout out at the end of his video on TISE
I use it anytime I set tile to sheetrock
Love me some mastic! Training under an old school " Master" , I learned so much , and I'm so grateful to know how to float around outlets LOL, but he never used mastic.... ever. He's set in his ways and I'll never question or fault him for that. After all, A servant is never greater than his Master. But nowadays, with the never ending subway, and glass mosaic backsplash installs, I use mastic all day long. Great video. Great info. Thanks for helping remove the stigma and shame some of us old timers still carry. You're top notch! Love Ya.
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I use Pro Lite on back splashes. It dries so much faster can grout same day
Hi Isaac, do you have guys have any mastics that are suitable for wet area apply in America?
We have them here in Australia, Abamastic (owned by Ardex) is one that is specifically suitable for wet area applications.
If you're doing a backsplash on an existing painted wall do you do any prep? Rough sand, knife slice, even a wallpaper perforater...
I have the same question.
I’m doing a subway backsplash next week and was just popping over to your channel to see what you recommend! Thanks for this timely video - your advice is always appreciated!
AcrylPro may be used in areas with intermittent water exposure such as tub surrounds and shower walls. as per manufacture
I was wondering if it could be used in a tub surround with no shower? The store where I purchased the tile said that as long as it's not in a shower or somewhere in which it would get direct water it would be fine. This is in a master bath with a separate shower. Have you tried it?
awesome.
I have done lots of backsplashes over the years and have commercial experience with tile in public restrooms. I have never had a problem installing any type of tile to drywall or cement backer board using mastic. I do NOT recommend it on for floors, wet areas, or for installing large wall tiles. Large wall tiles even in a dry area should be installed with a quality thin set.
@fartpoobox ohyeah Mastic in a shower or wet area is a bad idea.
Thinset is available premixed as well.
Mastic also is flammable
How can you tell the difference from porcelain tile and other tiles
Is using mastic good on veneer stone for fireplace? There is no heat around this area. Insert fireplace
More then adequate. Spit would work on a backsplash.
Oops I just used mastic to put up ceramic tiles in bathtub wall ugh. I did let them sit and dry for two weeks before grouting. Hopefully they will be ok... wish I could have seen this video a few weeks ago lol. Good info regardless thank you
This is bad news. I’m sorry.
If it makes you feel any better, my idiot contractor used mastic for the subway tiles in our shower surround 4 years ago and nothing's fallen off yet.
Unsure why it isn’t an option here, but if you see this, can you enable CC on your video for the hearing impaired? Thanks!
I think it's a little misleading to lump an acrylic like AcrylPro in with "mastics", because it's not really a mastic - it didn't come from a tree. Also it passed ANSI 136.1 6.4 so it doesn't promote mold growth. Most modern premixed adhesives like this are not really mastics. In fact I doubt actual mastic is used anywhere anymore. The term seems to have stuck though. But again mold growth should not be an issue with the modern acrylics. So the reason to not use it in a wet area is not mold, but the fact that the adhesion breaks down when it re-emulsifies. There is also the drying issue you mentioned - it would basically be impossible to use a premixed with large format tiles and Kerdi membrane, for example. That goes for premixed "thinset" as well as acrylic mastic.
Even if you read the literature for adhesives such as AcrylPro and Mapei Type 1, they do not even refer to them in their literature as mastics - just as tile adhesives. And if you read the tech sheet for Type 1 it also says mold resistant, and also not to use it over waterproofing or uncoupling membranes.
Isaac you're the s*** brother. Love watching your videos and thank you so much for sharing your great information with us. I'm doing a backsplash in my kitchen not sure what type of tile yet but can I tile directly on to my sheetrock or do I have to get some type of concrete board? Thanks Isaac have a great day....
W you tink about the MusselBound Adhesive Tile Mat?
I have a client who wants a subway backsplash. They currently have adhesive tiles now and apparently they’re stuck to hardboard. It’s the hardboard with a melamine surface. Can I tile on this or should I replace it with drywall?
I’m not a tile guy, but I set some mosaic tile where the sections were held together with plastic film on the face for a kitchen backsplash with mastic. It didn’t cure after a week, so I ended up having to cut vertical slits in the plastic between every column of tile to allow the mastic to cure…
It's good but it gets wet you get the black mold and they bond suits the bed. Usually standard sheet rock
I was wondering if it could be used in a tub surround with no shower? The store where I purchased the tile recommended the AcrylPro and said that as long as it's not in a shower or somewhere in which it would get direct water it would be fine. This is in a master bath with a separate shower. It's a standard 5' tub, with only 2 1/2 ' of tile going up the wall, what do you recommend? Thanks in advance.
They make pre mixed thinset in buckets too
Dude. Idk why I can’t convince some of the older guys that they shouldn’t be using mastic in showers.
What about green board i still see then doing it
They're so used to doing it and it saves them time. What you need to explain is moisture will pull through the grout joints. With thinset that isn't an issue because the thinset will not be affected by moisture and the bond fail. If it is a mastic or premixed mortar when the moisture inevitable pulls through the grout or a more porous tile it will compromise the bond and cause it to fail.
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Wish I watched this before I finish my porcelain shower
I did a kitchen subway backsplash from countertop to ceiling using Mapei Type 1 mastic (back-buttered on 3 x 6 ceramic subway tiles) about two years ago. I live in a tropic climate. Solid installation. 👌🏼
Was this over painted drywall? Heard you shouldn’t - just asking
@@patriotsforegolf9859You'd need to sand that down a bit with 120 grit.
I think a good video to do would be to show the DIYers on your channel how to make cuts. Show them L cuts, miters etc. All the different cuts
He has one bro
Hi,
Can i use mastic (mapei type 1 ) on plywood backsplash ? The tile would be set on plywood
Can you use mastic for the area above a shower surround? So no direct water, but obviously humidity in the bathroom.
A couple years ago I met Mike Holmes at the National Builder Show. He said one of his greatest accomplishments was that he has almost put Mastic out of business. He said anything that molds as bad as that product does should be out of business.
This guy is full bullshit first he is not tilesetterp
I've only known mastic as the white stuff you seal the seams between roof gutter pieces.
I did a floor with premix mortar and porcelain tile, it took forever for the floor to cure because the homeowner was running ac off the hook.
Polished marble subway tile
Hi my friend , thank you for your videos. Can I use mastick on durock with this same kind of tile that you are using in the video ?
Is mastic good for glass tile with decorative backing? Been using glass tile thinset from mapei and specifically states not to use on glass tile with decorative backing
What happen with the kid in the picture? Does he has COVID-19?
I found the best one...and I didn't even order a tile coach.
Does the choice of an epoxy or cementious grout have an influence on mastic?
Can you use mastic on polished subway tile? Thankyou
Hey man how fast you suggest grouting subway tile after using the mastic for adhesive
What is your take on double-sided tile tape?
I installed a bunch of bathroom partitions in a warehouse office bathrooms in Miami . The 18x18 porcelain tile was run halfway up the wall. We had drill through and anchor to the till and the installers used mastic and they floated it out with the mastic more then 3/4"in
Some places . When we attempted to drill the tile would just crack or sink into the mastic
Can you use mastic to tile the ledge of a baywindow?
Hey Isaac i have a job this up coming week ..... The home owner removed cabinets from the wall and the whole house is skip trialed lol its not real drastic at all but you can def tell that it has a texture but a laid down skiptrial texture..... So would you skim coat (with drywallmud)that before using mastic and setting them?
Do you always use spacers doing brick-bond subway tiles?
I just use mastic (which is awesome) and go by eye, takes 10-20 minutes to do a splash back and returns and it looks awesome.
Can mastic be used outdoors?