Thanks for having me on for this video DB! Always love chatting about Ecclesia's glitches and routing stuff, glad to share it with everyone. I'd also like to give a shoutout to Valyssa from the speedrun server - she was the person who initially noticed that the map pins were weirdly placed and would crash the game when moved around, which was the spark that led to us discovering hyperspeed and all the other game-breaking memory corruption stuff!
it sounds like the speed glitch is affecting the same value the speed back glyph is, if you have that in a new game plus run, you can easily blaze the game in about an hour casually, and that's grabbing all the villagers. I used to do that for fun on a friday night. it was definitely a hard to control state, but once you get the jump timings down you can even skip the flight glyph.
It's crazy that a ton of glitches in these older games can be summed up to: Do a thing and 1 frame later try to do another thing you're not supposed to but the game lets you anyways. Great video, Halgorithm is built different
It's funny that despite all the glitches, you still spend most of the run just obtaining the Dominus Glyphs, because you still need them to punch Dracula in the face. If only there was a way to trick the game into thinking that you are on Albus Mode for that one particular battle...
Its either a long and thought out process using years of trial and error or an accident from someone who wasnt glitch hunting, theres no in between lmao
@@damiencouturee6240 "After analyzing every possible permutation of memory states possible, I've ascertained three of them that will cause a state of quantum flux that allows access to a parallel universe. By rapidly switching between those universes with a series of several thousand frame-perfect ACE inputs, I have obtained Mew in Bubsy 3D." OR "hurr durr what happens if i just mash buttons lol... oops."
These videos are so information packed in such a short amount of time it's ridiculous. Thank you for all your hard work, DB. And a big thanks to Halgorithm, of course. Keep up all the fantastic work!
My cousin was doing these glitches back in 2003 in the back of the school bus. Speedrunners only know how to cheat lie hack their way to the top of the leaderboards...I am very smart
I've been a massive Castlevania fan since Simon's Quest. For whatever reason, Order of Ecclesia is probably my comfort pick for favorite in the series. Very cool to see some new life and fans visiting the game... or just the series in general for that matter.
Thanks Hal! Thanks TAS crew! Thanks DB for shining some light on this corner of scene. Exciting to be in a gold rush looking for 1) new pin locations to break the game and 2) optimized combinations of existing pin routes.
Can't believe Albnoa wasn't even mentioned, smh I wonder if the reason you can get the Good Ending by teleporting out of a Bad Ending is because the game defaults to the Good Ending path akin to Richter in the throne room. Like you start out with the Bad Ending, you get out of the room before doing the thing and gain access to the Manor again through unintended means, you travel back to Albus, the game knows you're on the Bad Ending path but is so confused, it slips in a Good Ending flag since it's the default state of the room (essentially Schroedinger-ing the whole thing), it considers you on the Bad Ending enough that you actually do the Bad Ending and see everyone you failed to rescue, the game saves itself on its own but saves the Good Ending flag with it, you kill Albus again with your Good Ending flag going into the fight, you're still on the Bad Ending path though so you get teleported to Barlowe, but since you fought Albus with Good Ending flag set, that lets you fight and kill Barlowe, and because you kill Barlowe, the game knows for sure you're on the good ending path.
Man i love your channel so much. The editing is always good and genuinely funny but not over the top, great informative videos made by someone thats genuinely very knowledgeable as well. Perfect combo. Just wanted to share this!
You have such an amazing skill for creating outstanding narratives through these videos, they are always so entertaining. Shows just how much time and passion you have for this. As with other videos, you mesh really well with the guest. Great work!
Damn, love this so much. Insane glitches, especially map pin glitch. Really highlights how one glitch can break the developer's assumptions in other contexts, with how magical ticket glitch enables so many other glitches to be useful.
Love the content, but I have to say, I love most of all the Dewprism/Threads of Fate music can be heard for the explanation at the end! Wish that game didn't get abandoned.
Man, my mouth was open for most of this video. There's just so much raw time and effort that goes into exploring these glitches, especially at this stage of infancy when the glitches aren't even fully explored for the optimum setups. Massive kudos to everyone involved for their hard work and tireless effort on hashing out these details. Thank you for keeping speedrunning interesting for the rest of us :D
OoE was a really neat game, but the curse debuff leaving you completely helpless since everything require energy always made me feel like the system needed some very basic way to attack for free
hi daxam top 5 harmony of dissonance randomizer player it's me luicho x the top 2 harmony of dissonance randomizer player and top 1 fan of halgorithm who is the top 3 harmony of dissonance randomizer player btw
There was one glitch I came across when playing Order of Ecclesia (cannot recall if it was my second or third playthrough) where I caused Death to be stuck mid animation of his most powerful attack. He couldn't move and it became a one sided battle. To this day, I have no idea how I managed to make that happen except I theorized it might have to do with timing when using a combo attack with light and scythe. This was with the original DS game, on a 3DS. Doubt that extra info helps.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't feel like getting the bad ending should count; not this game, not any game. I'm glad you guys at least did something to make it so you got the good ending with it!
In the castlevania speedrun community at least, pretty much every game requires that you get the good ending for it to count in major categories. Usually a side category will exist for "bad ending" speedruns. This is the only game I'm aware of where you get both the good ending and bad ending in the same run.
They work on both versions for the most part. Some of the hyper speed setups work slightly differently, but the footage used for the video switched between the Original DS and Dominus Collection versions interchangeably in most places
I was so relieved hearing Halgorithm pronounce ecclesia correctly because you would finally learn how it is said, and then immediately after that you just pronounce it wrong again anyway... Edit: Sorry, that was uncalled for, I'm just having a rough week
They work on both versions for the most part. Some of the hyper speed setups work slightly differently, but if you wanted to do this speedrun on an original DS you could.
My word, I've never seen such a stupid disciple smh Should've just listened to her master and used the pieces of [Dominus] rather than abusing the magic of tickets, doesn't she even know [how this world works]??
Thanks for having me on for this video DB! Always love chatting about Ecclesia's glitches and routing stuff, glad to share it with everyone.
I'd also like to give a shoutout to Valyssa from the speedrun server - she was the person who initially noticed that the map pins were weirdly placed and would crash the game when moved around, which was the spark that led to us discovering hyperspeed and all the other game-breaking memory corruption stuff!
DB pinned your comment, let's hope it does not break YT's physics.
it sounds like the speed glitch is affecting the same value the speed back glyph is, if you have that in a new game plus run, you can easily blaze the game in about an hour casually, and that's grabbing all the villagers. I used to do that for fun on a friday night. it was definitely a hard to control state, but once you get the jump timings down you can even skip the flight glyph.
I don't have the words to explain how hilarious it is to see the crab boss get smashed by the elevator, AND THEN Shanoa walks into the room.
"SHOOO"!!
Cinematic Entrance!
It's crazy that a ton of glitches in these older games can be summed up to: Do a thing and 1 frame later try to do another thing you're not supposed to but the game lets you anyways. Great video, Halgorithm is built different
Race conditions are hell to debug 😂
It's funny that despite all the glitches, you still spend most of the run just obtaining the Dominus Glyphs, because you still need them to punch Dracula in the face.
If only there was a way to trick the game into thinking that you are on Albus Mode for that one particular battle...
Oh no
It will never cease to amaze me how people find these glitches
Its either a long and thought out process using years of trial and error or an accident from someone who wasnt glitch hunting, theres no in between lmao
@@damiencouturee6240 "After analyzing every possible permutation of memory states possible, I've ascertained three of them that will cause a state of quantum flux that allows access to a parallel universe. By rapidly switching between those universes with a series of several thousand frame-perfect ACE inputs, I have obtained Mew in Bubsy 3D."
OR
"hurr durr what happens if i just mash buttons lol... oops."
Can't wait to see donation incentives to SAVE THE VILLAGERS!
THE CATS! SAVE THE CATS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!
WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!
These videos are so information packed in such a short amount of time it's ridiculous. Thank you for all your hard work, DB. And a big thanks to Halgorithm, of course. Keep up all the fantastic work!
I wouldn't call these levels linear, I would call them segmented. That also illustrates much better why the speedrun is the way it is.
My cousin was doing these glitches back in 2003 in the back of the school bus. Speedrunners only know how to cheat lie hack their way to the top of the leaderboards...I am very smart
No hot chip?
@@thealkymyst he is the hot chip
Obamna awarding Obamna meme
Can this be done on the Og DS version
@@GilMarcellana-o4t If I recall correctly, yes.
I appreciate the updates being added to the end of this video! Very informational, and super entertaining!
I've been a massive Castlevania fan since Simon's Quest. For whatever reason, Order of Ecclesia is probably my comfort pick for favorite in the series. Very cool to see some new life and fans visiting the game... or just the series in general for that matter.
Thanks Hal! Thanks TAS crew! Thanks DB for shining some light on this corner of scene.
Exciting to be in a gold rush looking for 1) new pin locations to break the game and 2) optimized combinations of existing pin routes.
Can't believe Albnoa wasn't even mentioned, smh
I wonder if the reason you can get the Good Ending by teleporting out of a Bad Ending is because the game defaults to the Good Ending path akin to Richter in the throne room. Like you start out with the Bad Ending, you get out of the room before doing the thing and gain access to the Manor again through unintended means, you travel back to Albus, the game knows you're on the Bad Ending path but is so confused, it slips in a Good Ending flag since it's the default state of the room (essentially Schroedinger-ing the whole thing), it considers you on the Bad Ending enough that you actually do the Bad Ending and see everyone you failed to rescue, the game saves itself on its own but saves the Good Ending flag with it, you kill Albus again with your Good Ending flag going into the fight, you're still on the Bad Ending path though so you get teleported to Barlowe, but since you fought Albus with Good Ending flag set, that lets you fight and kill Barlowe, and because you kill Barlowe, the game knows for sure you're on the good ending path.
Man i love your channel so much. The editing is always good and genuinely funny but not over the top, great informative videos made by someone thats genuinely very knowledgeable as well. Perfect combo. Just wanted to share this!
You have such an amazing skill for creating outstanding narratives through these videos, they are always so entertaining. Shows just how much time and passion you have for this.
As with other videos, you mesh really well with the guest. Great work!
JupiterClimb mentioned 🗣️🗣️
Damn, love this so much. Insane glitches, especially map pin glitch. Really highlights how one glitch can break the developer's assumptions in other contexts, with how magical ticket glitch enables so many other glitches to be useful.
Love the content, but I have to say, I love most of all the Dewprism/Threads of Fate music can be heard for the explanation at the end! Wish that game didn't get abandoned.
I was thinking the same thing
Posting for the (H)algorithm! o7 Great video as always, the editing is 👌
I love seeing the Mococo background in the splits of LonelySR; he is truly a man of good taste
God, I love this game. My favorite DSVania.
You make the best speedrunning vids, dragonblitz. Merry Christmas.
Man, my mouth was open for most of this video. There's just so much raw time and effort that goes into exploring these glitches, especially at this stage of infancy when the glitches aren't even fully explored for the optimum setups.
Massive kudos to everyone involved for their hard work and tireless effort on hashing out these details. Thank you for keeping speedrunning interesting for the rest of us :D
20:24 Ayyyy! Hold up is That Battle Garregga Music I Hear?! So few folks give that games Bangers the recognition they deserve.
Stuff like this fascinates me. Thanks for the explanations and the breakdowns of what exactly is happening. Hope we see more like this soon.
commenting to keep the speedrun explainations coming. love this content a lot
Another banger video - well done DB.
Always nice to see classic games breaking, good job.
Great video DB and also there is finally away to skip the crab!
Really like the editing in this, great video DB
I'm surprised at how good this video is. You made seem the workings behind the glitches seem very interesting!
Dammit dragon, you just made me buy the dominus collection. Haven't played ecclesia in around a decade though I just hit new game I'm stoked 😊
Ecclesia is my favorite from the Castlevania series. It has so many great ideas.
GG’s DB and Halgorithm, another awesome and informative video
It accelerated indeed. Thank you both for the wonderful video.
This deserves an algo push
Christmas came early this year with this vid, db 🎄♥️
OoE was a really neat game, but the curse debuff leaving you completely helpless since everything require energy always made me feel like the system needed some very basic way to attack for free
I remember subbing back when dr4gonblitz had 15k subs. Good times
Oh hey, it’s top 3 Harmony of Dissonance Randomizer player and I guess he also glitch hunts
hi daxam top 5 harmony of dissonance randomizer player it's me luicho x the top 2 harmony of dissonance randomizer player and top 1 fan of halgorithm who is the top 3 harmony of dissonance randomizer player btw
Halgorithm is goated!
Crazy how one of the glitches was found by accident by just mashing buttons in the inventory.
Also like a VHS touch on the video.
The best backdash cancel in the series, followed extremely closely by Alucard(SotN).
There was one glitch I came across when playing Order of Ecclesia (cannot recall if it was my second or third playthrough) where I caused Death to be stuck mid animation of his most powerful attack. He couldn't move and it became a one sided battle. To this day, I have no idea how I managed to make that happen except I theorized it might have to do with timing when using a combo attack with light and scythe. This was with the original DS game, on a 3DS. Doubt that extra info helps.
is Portrait of Ecclesia eventually going to be a part of the any% speedrun route?
if you know what glitch i am talking about, then you know.
i love this kind of videos
Crabs skip is real!!!
I did the magic ticket glitch years ago. I didn't realize it was a big revelation.
I just realized I don’t remember this game at all. I know I played it, but I do not remember all of this.
I don't know if it's well known, but you can soft lock against dracula when he does the post death blast, by flying into a corner.
That happened to me in my casual playthrough LOL. Very funny stuff
Skipping the crab is just the cherry on top.
Order of Ecclesia my beloved
Fly to the Leaden Sky my beloved
This was a good video
Love the video nevr played OOE but it looks fun
I do not know any secret word to express here, so just nice :3
Lovely video. :)
Shanoa, my beloved
Oh shit we can skip crab now? My life has new meaning!
Maybe it's just me, but I don't feel like getting the bad ending should count; not this game, not any game. I'm glad you guys at least did something to make it so you got the good ending with it!
In the castlevania speedrun community at least, pretty much every game requires that you get the good ending for it to count in major categories. Usually a side category will exist for "bad ending" speedruns. This is the only game I'm aware of where you get both the good ending and bad ending in the same run.
Love your content, so i post a comment for the creal and great Alg Rymth
They should patch these glitches. Embarrassing.
Cinnamon
Are these glitches new to Dominus Collection, or do they work on DS too?
They work on both versions for the most part. Some of the hyper speed setups work slightly differently, but the footage used for the video switched between the Original DS and Dominus Collection versions interchangeably in most places
Tbh ecclesia is my favorite castlevania. So good! (Might just be nostalgia tho)
If I’ve learned anything, it’s that speedrunners should probably refrain from calling things unbreakable.
pure KINO
Anyone got some of that algo syrup?
Are these done real time or in TAS? I could see the shenanigans possible through TAS hyperspeed with super precise movements if not.
Shanoaaaaa
If OoE wasn't so broken it would be the soulsborne of the series
Unrelated, but have you heard about the newish Portrait of Ruin glitch that turns Johnathan into a second Charlotte? 2 Charlottes
Yep, Charlattan.
Yes. Spoilers for a future video ;)
Funny to see a game hardly speedrunable and in few years : MANY GLITCH get found to destroy the Unbreakable Castelvania!
There's so many glyphs, you could call them a speedRUNEr.
Hopefully we see Dominus Collection at GDQ
Finally, a way to skip the crab!
I love this game
I was so relieved hearing Halgorithm pronounce ecclesia correctly because you would finally learn how it is said, and then immediately after that you just pronounce it wrong again anyway...
Edit: Sorry, that was uncalled for, I'm just having a rough week
Are these glitches exclusive to the new collection or do they also work on the original?
They work on both versions for the most part. Some of the hyper speed setups work slightly differently, but if you wanted to do this speedrun on an original DS you could.
Cinema
Red Shiney MewTwo?
another banger ofc
My word, I've never seen such a stupid disciple smh
Should've just listened to her master and used the pieces of [Dominus] rather than abusing the magic of tickets, doesn't she even know [how this world works]??
Cinema jol
Al Gore Rythm?
The guy from Space Jam 2?
The video right now is old, there is a new glitch found.
does she die when she seals him?
cinema
Cinema \o/
This game is incredible, sucks Shanoas only been in like 3 games
you game hackers are the reason why i turned into tech
:D
And they say mashing is for scrubs... /j
Why do you refer hal with they? He's a singular person
Third person
I'm sorry your take away from the video was about english grammar and not the contents of the video
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JupClimb❤
4:05 BAU BAU?
The Double Bamboozle. I had to wait to write this comment in case a 3rd one happened 😂
I preferred the speedrun without glitches
nice :)
I really hope they dont discover a credits warp with this glitch. Credits warp, ACE and SRM are cool exactly once then it just kind of kills a scene
I see where you are coming from, but usually that stuff gets banned or relegated to a separate category. I don't think it would kill the game
first
Do downvotes on comments help the algorithm?
I'm sure this comment does though
@TiNRiB who knows
This is an interview... not interested.
???
@@dr4gonblitz What i said. I thought you were gonna just show how to do it, not expecting an interview for such thing.
@@Raylightsen the video does show how to do it??? you just needed to watch the video for more than 60 seconds to figure that out
That's a wild complaint. Interviewing the dude who found all this stuff is way more interesting than just saying "And here you press this button"
@@Dr4gonBlitzDaily For more than 30 minutes you mean.