What it's like to fly the Piper M700 Fury

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  • Опубліковано 17 гру 2024

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  • @erikj.nuveenmddmd6557
    @erikj.nuveenmddmd6557 7 місяців тому +12

    In my experience of 10 years with a Meridian, the single worst aspect of ownership was the costs of maintenance. I have a CJ2 now and it is 1/4 the annual costs to service.

    • @brandonadams7837
      @brandonadams7837 7 місяців тому +1

      What specifically costs so much more? Just more to inspect so more hours to pay out to maintenance?

    • @erikj.nuveenmddmd6557
      @erikj.nuveenmddmd6557 6 місяців тому +2

      @@brandonadams7837 The biggest issue I found with the Meridian was the cost of services required. I was replacing a tremendous amount of parts and the service intervals on the plane under part 91 were extraordinarily costly. As compared to my CJ2, the costs were significantly higher with the Meridian. Average annual was $35,000 plus labor, plus parts as needed.

    • @brandonadams7837
      @brandonadams7837 6 місяців тому +1

      @@erikj.nuveenmddmd6557 what other aircraft did you consider? Epic? Vision Jet?

    • @erikj.nuveenmddmd6557
      @erikj.nuveenmddmd6557 6 місяців тому +3

      No. I had transtioned to dual engine and once you do, it is hard to consider single engine options. In the dual turbofan category, I was thinking Honda Jet (very difficult maintenance issues, availability of parts and brake issues), Embraer Phenom 300 and CJ 2-4. I went with the CJ2 because it is a fantastic plane, mission is commonly 1,100 miles and parts are plentiful. Acquisition cost of 2.0-3.5m makes it a bargain.

    • @eglide73
      @eglide73 Місяць тому

      Nice, but not sure I’d trust the wing design/structure based on the Malibu/Meridian issues. I think I’d go with the TBM, which was designed as a turboprop from the beginning.

  • @fuffoon
    @fuffoon 7 місяців тому +2

    I like it. The cockpit displays are insanely nice. And the power. Oh the power. Wow.

  • @erikj.nuveenmddmd6557
    @erikj.nuveenmddmd6557 7 місяців тому +5

    There is no problem flying this plane in known ice. I have done it more than 100 times in mine. FIKI certified, boots on wings and tail. No issue at all.

  • @monocogenit1
    @monocogenit1 7 місяців тому +2

    Beautiful plane!

  • @uberanalyst
    @uberanalyst 7 місяців тому +4

    Forget the $1M more expensive TBM, the Piper M700 doesn't compare well against an Epic E1000 at around the same price. The Epic is faster (333 knots), climbs faster (4000 fpm), and climbs higher (FL340) to get above weather with its 1200 shp PT6A. The Epic has a much larger cabin and useful load. The E1000 may still be the only certified plane that cruises at over 300 knots while burning less than 50 gph in cruise.

  • @billquillin1952
    @billquillin1952 7 місяців тому +10

    Long way from my Cherokee 140!!!!!

    • @larryegilman1
      @larryegilman1 7 місяців тому +1

      Because the 140 is still affordable…remember when 2 mil would buy a citation?

    • @daszieher
      @daszieher 7 місяців тому

      at least you have that! that's already more than I got at this time 😃

  • @davescott9409
    @davescott9409 7 місяців тому +8

    What was the purpose of this video? It provided virtually no information. How about climb rates and cruise speeds/fuel burns at high, mid, and econo cruise speeds and useful load.

    • @davideckberg-p7l
      @davideckberg-p7l 4 місяці тому

      Well stated. The people who show airplanes should know to geve performance fugures rather hust show pictures. People are not purchasing pictures.

    • @coreythomas9178
      @coreythomas9178 2 місяці тому

      @@davideckberg-p7l they actually are. It’s a big part of it. If people want to know those numbers they’ll research it themselves. You’re not in the market for one so you don’t need that info

  • @tonusoodla4868
    @tonusoodla4868 7 місяців тому +4

    Piper should implement the RED V12 Diesel engine into Malibu, this would be the ultimate value proposition!

  • @rodsilva80
    @rodsilva80 7 місяців тому +9

    I would rather buy the EPIC E1000 GX

    • @flywithaopa
      @flywithaopa  7 місяців тому +9

      We will have an aircraft report for that airplane on our channel coming soon!

    • @Quick_Bisquick
      @Quick_Bisquick 7 місяців тому +2

      Agreed. I have yet to see an airplane tick as many boxes as the Epic.

  • @hawkdsl
    @hawkdsl 4 місяці тому

    Piper got it right, and for a decent price. Your paying almost a million bucks for that 20 knots in the TBM.

  • @dezmo7
    @dezmo7 7 місяців тому

    Looks better than the TBM

  • @JMGlider
    @JMGlider 7 місяців тому

    Maybe it's just the way of cutting the video, but it looks like you were making the steepturns while only looking inside. That's not prohibited of course, but a bit strange to me to do that if it's not mandatory (like on an IFR checkride).
    Nice video though, cool plane. Greetings from Europe!

  • @ctn830
    @ctn830 7 місяців тому

    I heard useful load is much less than a TBM

    • @SMcda
      @SMcda 7 місяців тому +1

      it is but acquisition cost, cost to operate etc is far less

    • @angela1984a
      @angela1984a 7 місяців тому

      @@SMcda Who owns Piper Aircraft?

    • @SMcda
      @SMcda 7 місяців тому +1

      @@angela1984a No idea. I have owned 3 PA-46. Fantastic GA plane

  • @jamesbuckingham8073
    @jamesbuckingham8073 7 місяців тому +1

    4 min video?

  • @seichiramos
    @seichiramos 6 місяців тому +3

    Worst ‘review’ i’ve seen it. Wheres the information about take-off, cruise climb, climb rate, cruise…. Gallons per hour, TAS,

  • @patrickdaniels2615
    @patrickdaniels2615 7 місяців тому +5

    I was looking forward to this review. High performance and we are shown slow flight….. terrible review. Sorry.

    • @flywithaopa
      @flywithaopa  7 місяців тому +2

      Hi Patrick,
      Thanks for watching! In order to capture the air to air footage you saw, we had to fly at a lower speed to stay in formation. We conduct our photo/video missions in a Bonanza which flies at the lower end of the Fury’s speed range, hence why you see the slower flight footage.

    • @patrickdaniels2615
      @patrickdaniels2615 7 місяців тому +1

      @@flywithaopa. Thanks for writing back.

    • @michaelmartin8331
      @michaelmartin8331 7 місяців тому +2

      @@flywithaopa Thats fine but the real improvement, maybe the only one, is the new engine which results in a better climb rate and faster cruise speeds. It would have been nice to see what a real world rate of climb is, what the "normal" cruise TAS is and the fuel burn in cruise. Also, max speed of a TBM is 333 TAS I believe and normal cruise speed is 315-320. Just compare apples to apples not what the normal cruise speed of one plane vs the max speed of the other.

  • @tafaragadze6432
    @tafaragadze6432 4 місяці тому

    So more power and higher fuel consumption in a plane with already little useful load and range...

  • @conorb7872
    @conorb7872 7 місяців тому

    Cool plane and good review, but that title… oof. Spellcheck would help

  • @2Phast4Rocket
    @2Phast4Rocket 7 місяців тому +27

    Some rich guy will fly this airplane into know icing conditions

    • @timothywackerle2374
      @timothywackerle2374 7 місяців тому +1

      I plan on being a little more careful than that.

    • @scottallen2190
      @scottallen2190 7 місяців тому +6

      And into turbulence with the autopilot engaged, a recipe for an inflight breakup no doubt.

    • @jimpenney5508
      @jimpenney5508 7 місяців тому +9

      It is a FIKI airplane. So. That’s no problem.

    • @SMcda
      @SMcda 7 місяців тому +7

      it's designed to be flown in those conditions. Was your comment a question?

    • @JustSayN2O
      @JustSayN2O 7 місяців тому

      no that never happens

  • @observer1242
    @observer1242 7 місяців тому +2

    Who the heck can afford this airplane.

  • @josephhann8844
    @josephhann8844 3 місяці тому

    Why the stupid music. Just talk and report please.

  • @Bupkus68
    @Bupkus68 7 місяців тому +2

    Chinese owned - no thanks

    • @JustSayN2O
      @JustSayN2O 7 місяців тому

      yeah Mike get a cirrus or a cessna instead OK

    • @jmwintenn
      @jmwintenn 7 місяців тому

      piper is owned by brunei not china. go get a cirrus or a diamond.

    • @tomhaines29
      @tomhaines29 7 місяців тому +1

      Piper is not owned by China.

    • @Bupkus68
      @Bupkus68 7 місяців тому +2

      @@tomhaines29I stand corrected. Brunei government owns it. Even better 😂

  • @MTFBOEING737NG
    @MTFBOEING737NG 7 місяців тому

    No single engine aircrafts for me. I'd rather fly a triple engine.They're safer and there will be no last minute regrets.