The discrimination NOBODY talks about: Ageism
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2025
- Ageism - or age discrimination - is the one prejudice we don’t talk about, especially as it affects women. Maybe younger people are afraid because they know they WILL (God willing) become older. You will be 65, 70 and more. How will you feel about it when it happens to you? How does it feel if you are older and it happens to you now? Will you get over it?
Are you an ageist? Do you know? How do you react when you see women my age in on UA-cam? Do you assume they are out-of-touch with nothing to offer? Are you offended that they aren’t young beautiful women? Does seeing their face make you click away, even if their video is potentially very interesting and well produced?
Do you know?
This sit-down video chat confront ageism in our society. It’s a real thing.
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So glad you're here. What do you think about it? Have you ever faced it? Stay tuned because we are going to discuss a lot of interesting things in the fu ture.
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Healthcare is another one that encourages ageism. Like cut backs on medical care, cutbacks on coverage for care that never was a problem before or office staff calling you 'dear'. I'm also 66 and I'm starting to get the condescending, senior talk as if they need to talk slow to me ...fastest way to PISS me off.
I already had being a fat female against me, now its my age too.
So true! I really hate it if they talk down to me. Fortunately, that never happens at my primary care doctor's or the other doctor's that know me well. But if I'm in a strange place like the ER? Well... then... you can imagine what happens. :-(
So relate to this. I've been subjected to SO much nonsense simply because I was a female. Fortunately, I finally found some good doctors, but it was a long miserable haul. I've had a few doctors that were seriously out of line.
@@JustTalkingAboutLife Yes, I have had this experience too. Having had 4 decades of a profession in healthcare, it helps me sort out the good ones from the bad. I never tell them I'm a retired RN..its very telling what you can learn from someone who thinks you are way past your prime and oblivious.
I am 94. If you think it is bad now, wait until you hit the 90's....I finally had a doctor tell me he likes for his elderly patients to have an extra 10 lbs. on their body because when they fall they have a cushion over their bones. ( I fell Nov. 10th and realized what he was talking about.) I was able to get up without calling 911.
You're comment kind of made me laugh, but also not laugh. My mom just passed away - she was 98 - and she couldn't get any kid of significant health care responses from doctors after she turned 90. They told us that the policy was to not operate on people older than 90 so what's the point. Mom was really ready to go though. My dad died in 2007 and she was lonely for him. Now I'm lonely for her. So glad that you were able to get up and that all's well. (Boo on that doctor of yours.)
Happy Birthday! I just found your channel and I agree with you 100%. I am only 54 but decided a few years ago to not dye my hair anymore. Not dying your hair in todays world is a no no with how focused we are on looks. Anyway I was at Walmart with my adult son and I was having trouble with their app that was freezing up. The cashier actually looked at my son and said, "Maybe you can show your mom how that works when you get home". I told him that it was freezing up and that I knew exactly what I was doing. I was boiling mad when I left that store. I felt so dismissed and discriminated against because of my age. I don't know the solution to this but I believe having the conversation is the first step. Thank you.
It will happen to that young person before they know what hit them.
You are so much braver that I am. My grandma (who had the same hair as me) told me that I would always want to dye my hair because our color turns a very yucky color of grey, unlike some. Well, then I witnessed it happened to my uncle - same hair. His hair was the worst color of a sad yellowy thing for more than a year. Eventually it turned whiter and looked okay. But seeing it first-hand has scared me into thinking that grandma was right. Besides, I love my blond hair. (hahaha!) I did talk my mother into stopping dying her hair because I could see it was a beautiful color. She was a brunette and it turned the most gorgeous shiny steel-grey color I've ever seen, particularly since her hair remained thick throughout her whole life. If I had her color, I'd let mine go grey for sure. I think the thing is to make up your own mind instead of letting society make it up for you. (And I'm so annoyed at that cashier in your behalf! Ugh. So rude.)
So true!
Hi Rozanne! I absolutely loved this video. As I said I am 60 years old and can relate to so much of this. I agree with not seeing too many older women on UA-cam, which honestly is why I follow you. I can "relate" to you! You have the same views on life as I do. I worry about my grandchildren and the world they are growing up in. We don't live in the "perfect" home, we now rent an apartment. I'm one of those non-perfect heavy set woman. Yep, the stigma that goes with it is insane. I could go on and on commenting on this video. What a breath of fresh air you are!!! Have a glorious birthday my friend! 🎉🥳🎂
Hi Jen! Isn’t it weird that there aren’t more of us? We’re a cool generation and have a lot to give. We do have a lot in common!
The only place I see older adults, is van life type videos.
Hi Rozanne, Happy Belated Birthday to you!
Although I'm in my 40s now, Ageism began for me in my late 30s. It was really surprising...as I hadn't expected it. Job hunting is where it came out. It hit hard, I was more than capable for the positions...but it was my age that cut off the opportunities. I was honestly shocked, because it didn't make sense. It felt like I was less valuable! Even so, I recognized it would be harder going forward and I needed to be aware of it. It's ridiculous.
Every woman is valuable, regardless of age, race, gender, weight, sexuality...the list goes on. But here we are, discussing it because it's still an issue.
Women notice far more because we are treated differently, for sure. Regardless...life is going to keep on going forward and eventually...everyone, god willing, will experience aging with grace. Even the prejudiced ones. lol
Oh wow. I thought I was the only one. I felt that too it wasn’t until my last job when the owner specifically wanted a mature individual so I got past it. One of the reasons I started my own company was that I was sick of feeling belittled at work because I was an older woman. I wanted to be in charge of my own fate. This whole thing reminds me of teenagers thinking their parents are stupid and behind the times. I guess it just keeps moving forward with older generations taking the brunt of it.
As someone in their mid twenties, I actually seek out content here on UA-cam made by older women. They seem to be so genuine, authentic, and passionate about what they’re interested in. And they make me less scared to get older. My grandmother played a huge role in my life, so it’s no surprise I share a lot of common interests with older women though. Keep up the good work and don’t give up! 💕
And thank you for bringing more light to this topic! I’ve noticed it as well, and it’s just so sad.
@@KayAndTheCats Thanks for the kind words and the support!!
Happy birthday! I absolutely love this video. This is so true. The respect for older people has dwindled. All the worship of youth, beauty and wealth. Wisdom is ignored. 😢
Hi Dusti! I’m so glad you enjoyed it. By the way, love the change in your channel’s name. It makes what you are doing so much clearer. 😀
@@JustTalkingAboutLife thank you! It has definitely been an evolution to learn UA-cam and what I want to present and best way to do it😂 learning curve🤣😅
Happy birthday girl! I may be only 60 years old but I've delt with some of the same aging feelings because im still single and have never married. Kuddos to you for figuring out how to start your own video channel because I'm not as technical as you are, and I have had white hair since I turned 58 years old so I don't see any grey hair on you. You don't even look 60 years old so stop sweating it. My grandmother always told me that you are only as old as you feel you are. Don't pay attention to what other people think about you. Just look at it as you are now enjoying a new season of life. Embrace the new SEASON of life that God has allowed you to be in, and don't ever stop learning because it's what keeps us going.
Such great advice Tracy! I do have some gray happening but I’m dying my hair my natural color so it looks pretty much like it always has. I probably will keep it up as long as it looks natural. White hair is pretty. Unfortunately, my hair wouldn’t look so pretty. Have a great day and thanks SO much for watching!
In response to fear, we can choose to hate and care for one another OR hate and harm each other. It's interesting to focus on world conflicts and what I said does applies, but it also applies to how we perceive ourselves and treat ourselves. We can be realistic, kind, and supportive of ourselves OR listen to other voices about how we should interpret our thoughts, feelings, and bodies. I'm 64, a high school English teacher, so I am privy to the 'young folks' perspective.' To them, I'm grandma. One of my missions is to be a model for what it can mean to be 64 and vital and happy and hopeful. I don't teach as I did 25 years ago but instead teach with my experience and, I hope, wisdom.
You are awesome, Christina. I love this so much! Your students are very lucky to have you. (I was a junior high music teacher for about 10 years. Loved it.)
Yes, I m 73, and when I'm out snd about, I noticed clerks are really not interested in anything I have to say. So I try not to talk too much and hurry and get out of peoples way. It's lonely getting old, you feel like you're out of the loop, always just looking in. But if you're old and rich, well that changes everything too.
It's really true. That often happens to me. I can imagine that it will only get worse as I get older. I really hope that you find some folks that will welcome you in so you won't feel so lonely. I'm always happy to say hi when you come here.
Happy birthday 🎉🎉🎉. It is real! I'm 70 and still feel like I am in my thirties. I built a greenhouse by ! I do it all. I Love yard work, being outdoors, KYAKING, Biking, and when someone treats me old I'm shocked! I do floor yoga. No Kids, single and am offended when treated old. I Never Feel old!
I am exactly like you to include kayaking, I am your age. I do tnot act think nor look 70. Never count the years. It limits!
I aspire to be like you!!
Thanks! Yes, ageism is real, unfortunately, I aspire to be you and to do everything you're doing. Now that my Long Covid seems to be winding up, I'm back at it. No one should treat you like you're old. You're an inspiration for us all.
Amen!
I've been talking about this for years.
The young see the old as in the way and a burden, instead of seeing themselves in a few very short decades. Unless they are exceptional people or relating to a beloved elder in their family, the old don't matter to them at best.
As an older individual, you must advocate for yourself by being calm and intelligent in your demeanor - almost business like. Then the young will perk up and listen. If they perceive you, it's just a crazy old person ranting you will not get through to them.
You must help whoever you are dealing with understand that ageism is wrong. It's all about mental competency at every age. Even then, you are not allowed to discriminate due to mental competencies.
Right now, the older individuals are the ones with the skills and the knowledge the young need. Never just throw out a worker because they've reached a number. If they are willing to continue to work, and are actively contributing to a company, keep them. They are worth what you are paying for them. Oftentimes the young do not have the work ethic & loyalty that these older employees do.
Good point. Be “Calm and intelligent in your demeanor”! Perfectly said. That could be a discussion all on it’s own.
This is wonderful - and so true. So very, very true. I did a lot of teaching the folks where I've worked that they simply can't dismiss or ignore people because they are older. There IS a lot of wisdom that comes with age. You have to live life to know what it is.
That really could be a good discussion!
OK, my comment, part two.
Looks matter to the world, and that just sucks! I used to weigh 350 pounds and was treated horribly! Fat was the only "acceptable" prejudice for a long time. Like you said, why didn't I DO something about it? Why didn't I just QUIT EATING? If I had a nickel for every time I was told that I had "such a pretty face... if only...", I'd own the flippin' BANK! Yeah, well, now I'm thin and still clean up pretty good, and it's absolutely heartbreaking how differently the world treats me. I'M THE SAME PERSON!!! 😠🤬😭😭😭
OK, thank you for indulging me. Now, if you'll take my hand and help this ol' lady down off her soap box, I'd greatly appreciate it. 😂🤣🤣😂
Oh Rozanne, Happy Birthday, sweetheart!! I think you're awesome! Big hugs, MK 🤗❤️🌵❤️🤗
You are so awesome MK. I lost a bunch of weight purposely around 2000. It was so disconcerting how much better my coworkers treated me that I unconsciously panicked and gained it back. This time it happened to naturally that I didn’t have the psychological meltdown about it. You are always welcome to say as much as you like. I really enjoy reading your comments. 😃
Rozanne!! SweetHEART!! Happy birthday, my friend! It is SSOOO OK that you are 66 today. I'm currently rockin' 65 myself, so I'm just a few months behind you.
I have so much to say that I actually started taking notes!
First and of least importance, do you remember when fast food was cheap?? LOL, yeah, me too!
I'm sure you've seen the tee shirt that says "I don't know how to act my age, I've never been this old before". I love that! Just this morning I told somebody, literally in the same breath, that I love Jesus and Metallica. 🤔🤔😳😂🤣🤣😂 I've had my tongue pierced for 23 years, and tomorrow morning during worship at church my arms will be high worshipping my Savior and tears will be streaming down my face... IDK if I qualify as a walking juxtaposition, but the world may tell you that that combination doesn't really "go".
World disasters, Israel, people hating - HATING - each other... it's all Biblical and it's gonna get worse. I'm so DONE here in this world and just want to go HOME, and in the Lord's time, I will. IDK if you're familiar with a song by Aerosmith called "Livin' On The Edge"... there's a line in it that says, "If you can judge a wise man by the color of his skin, then mister, you're a better man than I". It's just not that easy!!
Am I an ageist? No, I don't think I'm an anything-ist. When I found you on your other channel it never even occurred to me that you were an older woman. In fact, it still doesn't, I don't see that. When I watch you I see someone who I think I could have fun with, have, meaningful conversations with about "taboo" topics like God with... 🙄 honestly!! Geez I hope that came across the right way! I mean, we used to be able to mention God "back in the day" without offending someone, 'member? Girl, you TALK about God and prayer on your channel!! He's part of my life too!
Is there a limit on how long this comment can be? I have more to say and am gonna hit enter and start again. Girl, you got me fired up!
XOX, MK
Oh my words. I just read this again. In today’s video I referred to you having tattoos. Boy, did I get that wrong. Ha! (Did you know you have tattoos?) I think you’ll get my point though - I was using you are a good example of someone that doesn’t let people stop her. I can’t wait to see what you think.
Excellent Channel so glad I found you Xx
Welcome! I'm so glad you found me!
Oh yes, we're all invisible after age 55. I'm 58 now and people just walk past me, and rarely hold the door for me or any usual polite kind gestures.
Isn’t that so weird? It happens to me too.
I don't understand it. Not like I'm not big enough to see at 5 foot 7 inches, size 18 either @@JustTalkingAboutLife
I'm just the opposite in that i look for ladies of a mature age. I feel they have so much to give and are so interesting (like you)I do follow some younger ones also of course. Avery Happy Birthday to you! 68 years old myself.
I agree with you! Us older ladies have lots of cool things going on. I follow a lot of younger women too, but it is such fun to find someone in our own generation on YT!
🎶 happy birthday to you.. 🎉🎂🎈🥂🌺💃🎉
Thanks so much!
Happy Birthday!! I feel the same way..
It’s amazing how many people are feeling this way. It’s good for me to meet them, so thanks for saying hi!
These are my favorite videos that you create!
Thanks, Nancy. I like making them. Now that I’ve figured out that I am just going to sit and talk and not edit them - just upload them straight from my phone and not make a special thumbnail, they will be much easier and more natural. I really will just be talking about life. It feels like such a relief to realize it. See you soon!
Happy Birthday ❤🎉
Thanks!!
Great video! Just subscribed. Happy Birthday!! I would love to find more channels by older women! tfs
Me too!!! So glad you’re here and that you say hi!
I'm not treated any different from other UA-cam's yet. But maybe that's cause i'm only sixty one years old 😂😂😂 Humor is a very important lifestyle for me ❤
61. Yeah, that would be it. 😄 Humor is definitely yours. Love it.
❤ I'm 77 years young 🎉 Your so FUNNY
@@lindahaskins5965 thank you enjoyed it!
Happy Birthday sweetheart!
Thanks!!
Your so Funny 🎉
Thanks!
I watch quite a few style and thrift videos hosted by over fifty and 60 girls . I'm 67
Glad to hear you found some good channels!
I'd love to know who they are. Do you mind sharing?
I'm 66, know how you feel, turning 67 soon. Happy birthday 🎉
Sorry for the delay, Ruby. Life has gotten away with me lately. How cool that you're 66 too!!
Happy birthday! I hope you've had an awesome day.
I did! Thanks!
I am slightly older than you. I have been known to shave a few years off my age when asked. Because I have experienced "ageism" and I don't like it. I see it all the time. On the other hand, my mother-in-law is 83 - white hair, little old lady (just as you might picture) and she gets treated with kid gloves everywhere she goes! Store clerks, pharmacies, etc.etc. Is this a form of reverse ageism? Or has she just reached the age of reverence? lol Anyway, Happy Birthday!
I think it may be. When my mom was alive, whenever I took her around, no one seemed to see me. She was in her 90’s and more interesting to them. It was an unusual experience. But I loved her and miss her every day. I was fortunate at work because I do look kind of younger than I am. However, I talked about my age all the time - made a joke out of it - to cut the idea that I was a joke off before they could make it. The things you have to do…
Just wish I could be around to see how the 30-50 yr olds today will handle this when they are 70.
Amen to that! You think it won't happen to you until it happens to you. I just don't remember feeling that way about older people myself. But man... a lot of younger people just don't get it.
They sure enough will later on.
As a young person i dont believe this even exists because nearly EVERY single person in power in the entire government and most.of the business world are old people
Hi Matt, I think the experience of people in power and government have a very different experience than normal older women. For instance, it’s very hard to overcome ageism in the workplace unless you are working for a very unusual company. The company I retired from treated me with respect because I was in a senior position (I had earned my way there) but other women my age were treated like they were stupid. They were often left out and passed over for advancement. It was very frustrating for me to watch and I tried to correct it. Over the years, I managed to get more and more older people hired since they make excellent employees. But I had to remind leadership constantly that it is against the law to not consider older people simply because they are older. Since I retired, I find I run into ageism a lot. People don’t know my background and assume things like supposing that I am not computer literate when I’m actually a tech geek. I guess you have to be an older woman in regular life to know what this is. Please try to separate out the different experiences. Normal women do not enjoy power. You can help by making sure you are not automatically discounting older women and by realizing their experience is not what you assume it is. Learn from them. Treat them with respect. You have the power to be an agent for good in the world and make a difference. Thanks for commenting and watching!
And yes joints are starting to bother me. Best wishes.
I wish the joint problems didn't come with age. They're (literally) a pain. Sometimes, I see myself waddling on camera on my other channel and it makes me look ancient. But hey,... my knees are hurting. At least, I'm walking. :-)
I like watching home decor videos, but what I never see is an older woman decorating and renovating her home for herself. It is as if you have to be coupled to want to live in a beautiful environment.
I know what you mean! I still ask my husband to do things, but the tasks are generally the things I don’t want to do. (Or have no idea about how to do and I’m not interested in learning them - like plumbing.) Ha! You’re going to be seeing me do more home renovations on my channel coming up. I have so much to do it’s ridiculous and he doesn’t have time to do it. So it should be fun.
Oh, by the way I worked in Property Mgmt. until I was 78.
Very good!!!! They were lucky to have you there that long.
I watch a lot of videos from older people... but I am looking for wisdom, especially of the biblically Reformed and Presbyterian kind.
I've been watching also a lot of videos from Just The Bells 10... she is 51.
I certainly don't like to watch videos of people complaining about their own personal treatment, unless it is for the good of others.
Praying Psalm 45 and Colossians 3 for you. ❤
I'll have to check out Just The Bells 10 channel. Thanks for the tip!
I am older than you. I do not act look think nor sound my age. NEVER count your years it limits! I am tired of you tube ads that think I pee in my pants! Aside from that, wise advice: You want to live longer? Get a doggy! :-)
I love this so much. I included it in my follow up video, because it made me laugh so hard. It's SO true! The ads that target my age are so bothersome. Ha! Our collie Stella is pretty wonderful. You're reminding me that I need to take her on some walks.
I think I follow a bit of a niche group but it’s not unusual for the people I watch on UA-cam to be 60s and 70s. (And younger too of course). I like following scientists and doctors and the older ones are Prof Rachaniello on TWiV, Dr Drew, Dr John Campbell, there are others but these are the main older ones. I also follow Europe the Swedish band and they are 60 plus 😊Maybe not as many women who are older 🤔 although there’s Liz Earle just turned 60. There are others but maybe more are men. Maybe it depends on the subject people are interested in watching.
It sounds like it depends on the niche you are watching. But it seems to be more of a tru-ism that older men are a little more respected and "out there" than women. It's part of the pattern of the past. Hopefully, we can change it. We can learn from everyone! I like Dr. John Campbell a lot!
People talk about it they just cant hear it.
Hope you read my other response. Glad to hear from you.
Yes lots of bias against older people. I am smart and can still work& very healthy ...but Human Resources do not want us unless have employee works there to get you in. In 4 years most population group will be over 50 years old in the US and live longer too now
So true! I sometimes wonder what they'll think when it happens to them too! Thanks so much for watching Jane!
I love the idea of a channel that addresses Agism. I am a "constant" victim of Agism and it angers me. If you hope to suceed with this endeavor 1. Turn up the volume. 2. Spice it up some. You are boring. I clicked off but not because of your age ,you are just boring. I'll check back.
Thanks! It has just kind of happened because it's on my mind, you know? I took your advice and got a different microphone. Hope it helps. Sorry you feel I'm boring. I'm just being myself. After all of these years, I've learned to love and accept who I am, even if that means not everyone's a fan. Hope you have a great day!