PLEASE don't delete your WAN Ancient History Shows!!!!! They are relevant in so many ways to people seeking perspective from a vantage point we no longer have access to. It would be ideal to allow them to be searchable from this perspective concerning their present day value.
@@emeraldbonsai good point, but Linus is basically imune to that because if you dont give a f*** the cancelling is less probable since he does not care so they dont get any acknowlegement for their actions by him so he wont unless its something major like Framework deciding to be shady and Linus being like: "This is fine" only such a case we might get any reaction
Bootleg time stamps (now complete?) 0:00 Greetings, topic previews 1:17 Intro 1:39 sponsors 1:45 First topic SSD 12:20 Summer Game Fest 21:18 Dream NAS controversy 21:25 controversal collab list 22:25 Linus starts talking chair adjustments during Dream topic 23:42 return to Dream 35:00 segue from keep giving us feedback, like Dream to LMG is so big 36:17 Riley or Anthony's take on Dream 41:32 Merch message labs impact on sponsors 41:40 screwdriver controversy 46:35 Bill C11 49:20 screwdriver poll update 56:56 FP comment 1:00:14 screwdriver poll 1:05:10 pop up shop 1:07:50 Lab2 News Community LAN party 1:22:15 Sponsor Block 1:24:51 inquiry AC at LAN , AC, weather discussion 1:30:40 Linus echo 1:31:48 good now 1:31:52 Merch messages 1:33:16 Inflation impact on Creator Warehouse 1:38:31 gas prices impact on electric vehicles 1:40:46 Yvonne's LMG impact (don't miss this) 1:49:49 3D Printed Homes 1:50:21 iPad OS floating windows or anything announced 1:51:36 Gaming on Mac 1:53:51 Horst in dock about WWDC2022 1:57:06 Why LMG does YT Shorts 2:02:06 Ivan's Ukraine charity GPU auction 2:04:02 Merch Messages 2:04:08 New (future) LTT products 2:04:22 broken cap water bottle 2:04:42 New products 2:06:03 screwdriver shaft oxide coating? 2:06:27 Pool tech? 2:09:04 Floatplane: Actman demonitized on UA-cam 2:10:06 Pool, heat exchange HVAC 2:11:11 Jasco(sp?) update 2:11:30 2 mini unboxings? another time 2:11:38 m.m. concrete thermal conductivity? More pool cooling
Linus is the luckiest guy on earth to have Yvonne. She saved him from killing himself against his favor. She paid the guys using her money. How can we guys find more like her, it's difficult and luck based odds.
LTT has excellent product development staff and designers, but, just in case you all have not considered looking into alternative metal finishes for the LTT screwdriver shaft, there are two durable metal finishes used on firearms: 1. is a tough surface coating applied to metals to improve the surface properties. Its primary benefits are increased hardness, wear resistance, corrosion resistance, and reduced surface friction. It is extremely thin (
1:37:00 I always admire Linus's transparency in many areas of business that most creators are very very closeted over. Steve (GN) and Linus really standout like that and honestly, that just increases the credibility for me.
@@TheCloudhopper Oh goodness. I was carrying in a bunch of stuff in my arms late at night. Never meant to comment anything, let alone an "lol" on a well thought out comment. Must've just bumped all the right places on my phone screen listening to the podcast and carrying things. Apologies for that. For what it's worth I agree with you. Beyond credibility I love that he talks about areas of business in general. I am fascinated by the way Linus talks about the business being run and am consistently impressed with how intelligently they run their company.
With regard to the screwdriver shaft, from past experience I would recommend going with silver version as the standard. Given the support shown for a black version and the likely use case of the average LTT viewer why not offer a temporary "blackout special edition" that is capped at 10 or 20k (whatever multiple of order quantity sells I suppose?). It could even come with a disclaimer around wear on the shaft that has to be accepted before ordering, but would allow those wanting the black version the opportunity to get one.
Would go for the black if the only reason they dont is due to wear. Wear is cool and it gives you a more professional look. A good example would be when you visit a construction site. When you see people with scuffed up clothes you know that they are the worked and they know what they are doing. The last person you want to talk to in the field is the guy with shiny new clothes who is some fancy brat from the office visiting over the day. Would also prefer the orange/black handle easier to see when you need it.
don't delete the old wan shows! I still listen to them somewhat regularly, I already watched all the recent wan shows so old wan shows are great for me. they're podcasts anyways, so the corrupt screen doesn't really matter much. it did scare me because I thought my gpu was dying, but that's fine lol
@@EwanMarshall march 29, 2014 was the one that scared me enough to send a screenshot to a friend telling them about the jumpscare. the preview image from the timeline scrubbing looks fine, but it looks completely corrupted on both desktop and mobile
Watching them talking about how the development of that one damn screwdriver has been going on for months to ever so slightly improve the user experience and longevity of the product, makes me want to buy it. I don't even use screwdriver that often, it just shows how LMG pretty much want the best for the merch they're selling.
If Linus hasn't installed the pool stuff yet, then make sure its 2 loops! One around the deepest part of the pool and one around the walls. The PC's and servers get hooked upto the deepest park, because thermodynamics and flow means this will always be the several degrees or more cooler than the rest! Look forward to seeing it!
I don't think Yvonne gets enough credit for how much LMG was down to her as much or more than Linus himself (as he has said multiple times). She always gets good comments when on camera mind so hope she knows
I have to say the way this man does not even have to think for a sec before he says his wife is the reason he is where he is today and how he owes her his life is awesome
0:00 - Introduction 1:18 - Intro 1:44 - Topic 1: Microsoft is trying to kill HDDs • 3:17 - Manufacturers are choosing high capacity HDD over fast SSD • 4:00 - Apple produced early MacBook Air with SSDs only - 4:31 - Linus's Uncle's business partner bragged about speed of his Mac • 5:22 - PC Manufacturers don't want to put good things into the machine - 5:50 - Luke's experience with people that want Macbook • 6:47 - Manufacturers as root cause of the problem • 7:27 - It's the problem that existed 10 years ago! • 7:47 - We can check it on sites like UA-cam - 7:57 - Interjection: bad audio/image on old WAN shows - 8:55 - Back to the topic: comments and dislikes on HDD vs SSD comparison video • 9:38 - There's a lot of fear around SSD - 9:48 - Content about how not to ruin SSD - 10:08 - It won't improve gameplay • 10:43 - 2TB hard drive with price of an SSD (I'm still making it, be patient :)
i have been watching re runs of old wan shows and even when it was still just the archive in the background at work for months if not years at this point and i would be incredibly sad if they went away, its always funny and interesting in today perspective to hear what you were discussing from years ago and if actually happened or it failed or nothing came of it at all
To answer the pool/concrete question at the end of the show... It is a common construction practice, for a price obviously, to use the same radiant heat systems embedded in/under a driveway to negate snow and ice buildup. So yes, radiant heat through a pool wall will most definitely dump the heat into the water.
A friend of mine is putting in a pool and he got recommended to put in radiant (by and experienced plumber) in his slab as heating for the pool as cheapest and customizable when it comes to where the heat comes from. A tip he had was to put in several loops instead of one otherwise you risk one side getting warmer then the other. He also commented on the pros and cons of it. Pros: cheaper in general, no corrosive pool water to degrade system in the loop, heating can come from any source (electricity, wood, heat pump, loop on roof...). Cons: No retrofit pretty much has to be done at install, slower reaction time in system takes a while to get up to temperature. Linus ofc has a few more things to worry about: Is the heat from solar panels and server room to much/to little. Does he really want to dump the heat outside in winter when he is heating the home
@@scania9786 Thats exactly what I would be worried about. If the pool is already warm and you are trying to cool with it you need every bit of thermal conductivity especially sice the water in a PC loop usually dosnt get that warm to beginn with
The problem is the goal here isn't heating, that's the side effect. The goal is cooling. The question is whether enough of the heat will dump through the concrete to cool the water and thus the PCs? I suspect that the HUGE thermal mass of having a cooling loop that long will make it a bit irrelevant.
10 years ago, SSDs didn't last that long. We had them in our developer machines at that time. A sizeable percentage of them died after 3-6 months, though the speed improvement made them still worth the hassle. But reliability was an issue with the first generations of SSDs.
Yeah but for average users they already were reliable enough didn't they? I stated using ssds until 2013 so I don't know if there were some reliability changes in that time.
From what I remember, a lot of the problems came from one of two sources: either the OS was trying to defragment them or failing to initialize the trash collection routines on the controller, or the storage controller got way too hot and the solder became embrittled with oxides and the connection cracked. Nowadays the controllers are better cooled and use underflow to help try to protect the solder balls and prevent the controllers from lifting from the board. That part only kinda sorta helps, so it's mostly down to more adequate cooling and higher performance controllers. The storage media itself tended to be SLC or DLC, so it actually was pretty decent unless you were defragmenting it or something
Having a parts store at a LAN seems like a must. At a lot of drifting events there will be at least 1 pop up shop there with common parts and it makes the whole event go much smoother when people can stay even when something breaks
same with drag events, particularly the drag and drive style, manufacturers and stores will follow the race around with a combination of common parts and demo pieces for upcoming products.
Some events have sponsors selling products from their own booths. It's pretty common. Sometimes you can buy spare parts off the admins if you're in a pinch.
In 1989 I was a grad student and a young professor who’d been a fellow grad student told me it was time for no hard drives. I told him it was inevitable but it would take another few decades. Back then he was willing to settle for a hard drive farm with a central server, so at least he didn’t have to listen to a hard drive on his desktop machine…
39:40 it’s very cut and dry, there’s a clip of Dream saying that getting doxxed isn’t a big deal if you don’t have a following, in response to his fans doxxing a minor for disagreeing with him
@@michaelf.2449 the problem isn't him making mistakes, the problem is how many he made. It makes you question whether or not he's actually sorry for what he does
@@fartpooplover789 he probably doesn't care because honestly I wouldn't either. He's a guy who plays games not some government official he's just doing his own thing
I feel ya Linus on learning on your own terms! You’ve been an inspiration that you don’t have to take the traditional route to succeed. Worked for a tech company for 4.5 years doing tech support and worked into an apprenticeship for a software engineering position 6 months ago.
On 3d printed homes, the ones Ive seen usually have hollow walls, theyre pretty thick walls but they basically just print a perimeter like a normal plastic 3d printer would. It allows for insulation and reinforcement in the middle, and penetrations like wiring you just place the conduit on top of one layer and print the next layer over the top. Agree with Linus it doesnt seem ready for mainstream, but the benefit is the same as for regular 3d printers: you can design and create unique / "prototype" prints with minimal adjustment to the workflow.
I don't think you need to prototype houses. A tech to rapidly build homes already exists and has been perfected by, actually, communists. They needed a way to quickly provide housing for tons of people. So they made a few designs that used pre-fabricated, pre-stressed concrete panels that you make in a factory, ship to the final location and only put them together. Unlike with 3D printed concrete (where the concrete is weak, you need to wait for it to settle, etc.) you can build this really high if you want to, and it will last indefinitely with no maintenance as long as the roof above it is intact. The panel buildings aren't pretty, but they work extremely well for the price. Communist urban housing was actually really good; like, they also planned well for schools, public transportation, greenery, etc.
8:20 oh I got hooked on old WAN shows recently! Despite being only 6-8 years ago, it feels like a time capsule from another era. And its fun to see all the predictions people had for today (especially Linus). It feels sometimes like watching people from the 80`s talking there would be flying cars everywhere by the year of 2020 :)
honestly.. SSD was the best thing. I tried to convince work.. failed. Clearly the retailer knows better than the IT guy. I put a little SSD in my EEEPC notebook, and holy hell! what a change, that machine became usable!
We've got two old laptops which are each at least 15 year old now, and recently slapped an ssd in one because the harddrive cracked up again. Just a cheap 25 bucks 250Gb ssd. But now the Pc boots up so quick it's like the thing works now.
As a person who doesn't really use TikTok (I have a job, can't be stuck scrolling down for hours) but understands the advantages of the format I find UA-cam Shorts really cool. You don't come to UA-cam directly to watch them so you aren't in that 'TikTok mindset' as I would call it and you can easily stop after one comes up in the recommended feed. I think the best ones are a little sneak peeks into the future, it really makes you look forward to that episode. The other Shorts that are being recommended to me are from NileRed and I love how his long format content is 'proceed with caution' kinda thing and his Shorts are a direct opposition to that. Love the creativity that can come with them.
2:11:38 Yes, it definitely is. I had a hot water circulation system installed on our new house that provided instant hot water at all taps. The plumber didn't fully understand the concept and failed to insulate the circulation lines in the concrete foundation. The resulting heat being leeched out of the lines into the foundation caused my hot water heater to stay on 24/7 and the cats had hot spots all over the dining room and kitchen floor to lay in because it was all tile in those rooms. You could feel with your bare feet where the lines were running. Seeing as it was in the foundation, we had to just unplug the circulation system pump and it now takes longer than ever to get hot water to each tap.
Hard drives aren't going anywhere yet. For inexpensive bulk storage, SSD isn't even in the same neighborhood as hard drives. And for bulk storage (not scratch disk, not active use disk, not cache), NOBODY is going to drop thousands of dollars per drive to go solid state until you get out to "money to burn" territory.
HDDs are still better if you want to just store something on it and then physically store the device, because SSDs lose the data if they aren't plugged in for a while. However, this is about boot drives, for which HDDs aren't any good compared to SSDs.
10:00 To be fair, I also treated my first SSD like glass but more because of the price tag. My first SSD was a 128GB model and it cost me ~400$. That shit was expensive as hell.
I can believe it. It wasn't until a few years ago I built a system with an SSD. More recently I replaced the boot drive and added a secondary drive each of which cost around $400, hold 4TB, and are gen 4 (not at my PC to check the exact model number but they're WD black m.2s and were basically the fastest thing I could afford).
Similar, my first SSD was about 6 years ago, 128gb cost me like £250, it's still my boot drive, although since then I've added a second 1TB SSD as my primary game storage then another 3 4TB HDDs for games I don't care much about load times.
My first SSD was pretty expensive, but it was also SLC, so considering that 64GB drive was equivalent to 192GB today it's not quite as bad as people think.
And that highlights the exact reason why I would've never had a laptop with an SSD at that time. At the very least, it would've cost as much as the laptop itself.
Yvonne just needs (edit: to receive) an award for being the mother, wife, and business partner of a lifetime from what it sounds like. It makes me happy to hear how supportive she has been to Linus, and even more so to hear how much appreciation they have for her. Sometimes it is just great to hear about good people that go above and beyond being recognized and appreciated for it.
In response to your old WAN shows. You could unlist them and then pin a thread on the LTT forum with links as an archive for people who want to watch the old shows.
Or you can unlist them and just have them in a playlist on the channel. I know a lot of content creators who do this with their livestreams; don't have them public but make them easily accessible through a playlist.
I remember having teachers & students moa ING like hell about how terrible school laptops were because they were all sub £500 per unit. I remember spending months badgering the management to just buy 3 or 4 ssds & do a trial. Honestly the hassle I got was unreal. When I needed a new server for the MIS I got a Dell 28 core with 5 Intel enterprise ssds & management couldn't believe how fast that server booted up into Windows server - argument won
Am currently having the fight/battle/encouragement with the student laptops at 2 primary schools. All the staff have them, and they all hate the HDD student laptops, but can't get them to spend £20 a laptop when shiny iPads exist. I've added free SSDs to few (64gb hand-me-downs) and labeled them as SSD so I'm hoping the idea will catch on. Though, they are both soon moving to individual logins in order to monitor k-12 terrorism or whatever...at which point they'll discover they'll have alerts from an iPad ....but no login so no specific person identified.
@@miff227 I love it that schools wet themselves over the shiny with no practical use for the technology, no lesson plans, no plan on how to manage them, no plan for keeping students on task & so many other things vs a laptop with Windows, group policy & some kind of academic monitoring software. Don't get me wrong it can be done on ios but it's not as simple as with a laptop with a unique login & managed software via group policy & active directory.
Thank you for you and your wife's determination in making the business larger and soon an industry leader...I can't wait to see and listen to all the specs covered in the new lab space
@1:41:00 TLDR: Yvonne saved Linus' life, soul, and mental health. One of the greatest declarations of love and appreciation. We need an Yvonne Appreciation Day sometime on LTT, or better yet on all LMG channels(on the same day) because of her we get all the information and entertainment we enjoy daily.
With the screw drivers I'm personally a huge fan of tooling looking like they've been used. I prefer the way the black looks initially and I love that it'll show how much I've used it. To me tools that look loved but still work perfectly are fantastic
YEah im the same, but i also agree they should make it silver cos the amount of hassle from people who dont like it will be huge and those of us who prefer wear marks arent gonna not buy it cos its silver (even if black woulda been kickass)
My dad was on top of technology back then. I remember when I got my first laptop with an SSD in 2012-13. It was an HP envy (the hinge broke within like 2 years RIP) and dang the boot time blew my mind.
I remember getting my first ssd, and then trying to convince friends to get one too, it took a while, but every single one had the same reaction to it (holy shit that's fast), despite being very hard to convince of the benefits beforehand
I work in a pc shop, when the first ssd's were getting a little bit cheaper, but still were far from common, my boss bought a pallet of cheaper previous gen laptops. I put ssd's in all of them except one, that one went onto the shop floor, next to one with ssd. All we had to do when a customer needed a new (low-medium end) laptop, was to take em to those two, and push the power button at the same time. They sold themselves by booting in ~20 seconds instead of 80. And since our standard customer today still uses less than 50gb of drive space, the low capacity was a non-issue.
I was fortunate in that my friends were all as techie as I am, so it wasn't really that hard, but apparently convincing the average consumer that "installing an SSD will reduce loading times of every single program to the extent that it will revolutionize your computing experience" is really hard. Nowadays all computers come with SSDs, so people just don't realize that the thing they balked at before has become their new norm and they fail to recognize this and just take it for granted. Even moving to NVMe from a conventional SATA SSD isn't as striking as moving from spinning rust to solid state storage was back before NVMe was a thing.
It only took you 12 years Linus! Funny thing is, HDDs are still very useful for major data storage (comparable SSD solutions are still way more expensive). For the main OS however, SSDs are the only sensible option for new builds and they're cheap enough to get 1-2 TB configurations without spending too much nowadays.
Funny you mentioned it.. I get lots of 8years old WAN shows recommended. You two were so young back then! Btw I was following you back then and even before that in the NCIX days and I was always like man this dude has it all figured out and living the dream!
I dunno what I am more excited to see content about. Linus cooling his server room using pool water or the LAN Party because LANs are the very definition of fun (and debugging networks).
Talking about your wife, and what she did for you, had me crying. I haven't seen her much on videos, but when I have she seems like such a positive influence. I'm glad you found her and are still here making great things with great people Linus 🙏
You can't say how cool it is to be able to rewind time by watching old UA-cam videos and 10 seconds later say you want to delete old Wan Shows episodes.
He didn't say he wanted to delete them, he said he'd probably be wise to delete them (because of cancel culture). He also said he isn't going to delete them.
On SSD vs Hard Disks: We were using laptops while cruising the West Coast of the Americas. We went with SSD's (learned this the HARD WAY) because of their higher HEAT tolerances. Conventional Hard Drives started to fail at 45 Degrees Centigrade, while SSD's add at least a 15 degree margin of safety. Unlike conventional hard drives we never had a SSD fail due to operating temperature. In fact they ran cooler than the standard laptop drives, transferring less heat to the rest of the laptop components. We still are using a couple of the bigger SSD's we had back then, over ten years ago.
Screwdriver: All you need to change is have the shafts sandblasted before being powder coated. Powder coating is WAY more durable than any kind of anodizing
2 weeks later and I finally watched this WAN show. Maybe 10 years ago people thought that the SSD would make their PC into a Commodore 64. The old Commodore would boot up immediately, but was quite deficient compared to PCs.
for the sleeping over part, what we do at the local lan party we host once a year is have a dedicated sleeping area. you are not allowed to sleep in front of your pc or in the gaming area. we where usually around 200-400 people. we did also have paramedics and police at location, and it is definitively useful. though this was before c hit, so quite some time ago now.
I don't have any hate on y'all for making the collab video, but the reason i still dislike Dream and don't think his apology means anything is because he tried to go out of his way to discredit the speedrunning community because they thought he was cheating(rightfully), it shows to me he genuinely doesn't care for the community he's in and would try turn on them publicly with a very impressionable audience(children)
SSD gave a seconde life to old laptops, and gave work to IT repaire business.The good IT repaire stores took the opportunity to clean and change thermale pastes, the clients were realy happy to keep there PC.
I would love to see a deep-dive explanation about what made the screwdriver so unique and why it took so much work, and I think having that information included in the official screwdriver announcement video is the perfect way to do it.
If the black and silver were both offered, I would buy the black even knowing about the wear, but it being silver would not even slightly affect my decision to purchase.
@@siddharthkapadia7674 Agreed and the other question I would have is how much it would wear for the people who purchase it because I doubt most people buying it will use it as much as Linus has to use it but I am not sure.
I was always in on SSD's. First one I had was in my dual-core HP laptop which was outfitted originally with a terrible 5400 rpm 320Gb Toshiba. After a few months of use, boot times were horrific, taking upwards of two minutes of thrashing before I got to a screen. Then starting any software started the thrashing again. The laptop was nigh unusable. Swapped it out for a 128gb SSD, paid about $150 for it, and went from minutes to boot, to seconds to boot. I was hooked, never looked back, and started swapping over my website server to SSDs for boot drives, and then data drives. In fact, my webserver is still using the 64gb Crucial M4 SSD and it's STILL in perfect working order.
Honestly, I do like watching content from Canada (Im living in canada) more than other countries. It makes me feel more connected to the content. Every time I watch a video and I notice that its filmed in Canada, im like "Yo thats canada!" and feel a bit of pride. Thats just emotional impact tho
I just wish UA-cam would shovel shorts out of the main video flow. it should be able to be "filtered" out if the person selects they don't want to see them.
On the pool not needing “HVAC” topic, what most think of is direct expansion and in the case of what Linus is explaining is indirect expansion where water is commonly the refrigerant used. Most large commercial buildings are heated and cooled this way utilizing cooling towers.
In the UK on the home page it has a news feed section which is exclusively mainstream UK news channels, giving what they deem the most important story of the day. They could maybe have a area level one like for me North West of England so you can see what the most important stories in your area are today, such as a festival, new sculpture etc. Getting people more engaged in there local community and then you could even drop down to a local town level to give even more specific local news.
I was working at IM Flash Technologies starting in 2006. At some point they offered employees highly discounted SSDs and I scooped one up for my system. It was absolutely the biggest upgrade as far as my user experience in my entire PC using life which began in the early 90s. There will never be a bigger experience difference with such a simple upgrade ever again.
I wish I had some sata ssds... Also, where does the "5+ year old hard drives are unreliable" thing come from? The only hard drives that died on me or came dead where the early 1tb drive from a WD media box and the seagate drive I pulled from a dish dvr.
@@gameface6091 Yeah, most of my storage is reliable. Oh, and that drive from the dvr was dead when I picked it up. The nicotine glazed dust must of killed the motor controller as it cant spin. Man that was so disappointing :(
@@i54robert That's a good point. It hasn't been the WOW my life has changed situation like the SSD was, but I'm sure for many people the visual difference is a bigger deal.
Reasons I watch any video of LTT: 90% Linus Media Group employees reminiscing about the glory days of PC RTS games 10% Tech Tips P.S. Total Annihilation was my jam.
Be careful with pool heating from your server room because it can work in the oposite side. Also dont forget about expansion tank because floor heating has a lot of water and water expands
Mac LAN gaming story: Back in the grand ole days of 2006 my friend and I installed halo on our macbooks in high school and would have LAN matches during study hall. Over the next couple months other kids in the school caught on and I think at one point there was around 250-300 kids a day playing halo across the school, at any given moment we had 20-30 people minimum available for matches. Many of us became proficient at keyboard and trackpad halo. Eventually the teachers and system admins caught on to people playing halo during not only study halls but even during class. Literally everyone had been downloading the game files every time they used a computer that didnt have the game installed, then leaving the game installed with the icon plain as day on the desktop. At first the admins set up a program to uninstall halo automatically from the laptops regularly, then blacklisted Halo so the game could not be download to the computers at all, this later escalated to purging all the install files, and even preventing the systems from opening the install files. Some students had tried saving the install file to a usb stick and the system admins actually managed to prevent the systems from recognizing the install file from a usb stick. Literally, there was no way for anyone to even get new copies of the games loaded onto the laptops or the server at all. The admins thoroughly believed that they had purged every single copy of the game or install folder from the system. Rumor started to spread about a month after the halo purge that the two of us somehow still had access to the game. The system admins didnt seem to believe anyone could still have access to the game so they never even questioned us, and from their end they never saw halo installed on any of the laptops at the end of the day. My friend and i knew from day one what we were doing was probably not going to be received well and had decided the best thing to do was to save the install file to our server accounts (every student had about 40 gigs of server space i believe) so we could wipe the game from the system daily and reinstall it on any laptop in just a few minutes at the beginning of our studyhall. So Inevitably we ended up back where we started with just the two of us shooting one another casually in halo while doing some homework. Given the privacy invasions I've heard about in recent years of how far schools have gone to monitor students behavior it does surprise me that they never considered scanning our personal accounts. Though I dont think the admins actually knew it was possible to install from the server without copying the install file to the laptop itself, so their software wasnt equipped to scan personal accounts or communication along that pathway. I guess thats the benefit of all the admin people back then having grown up in the pre internet/networking era. Our programming teacher started on the IBM punchcard systems. The two of us probably had just as much experience or more with LAN's and system admin as the people running the network did. We sure as hell didnt learn anything new in our programming class, not that you needed to know any programming just to instruct a program to install using the correct network/local directory pathways. TLDR: Two 15 year old computer nerds appropriate high school network for daily occurring massive underground Macbook halo LAN party fight club involving at least 1/4th the school, other students break the first rule of fight club, school shuts down halo fight club, the two students continue their own private fight club to casually murder each other while doing homework.
@@theboxofdemons Maine. and the first macbooks were issued to my grade level in 2003. Apple pushed pretty hard in the education sector back then. I think the guys even reminisced about it on WAN show years ago when discussing how google is pushing chromebooks the way apple used to with macbooks.
@@chrisstokes1334 Yeah I went to school in Chicago. But around me, 2010 would have been considered somewhat early for that bandwagon. We had over 4000 students at my school and they didn't even have assigned laptops or tablets until 2014, the year after I graduated.
I still remember my first HDD a whopping 20 MB in my 1988 P3105 XT-Clone, larger than the 7.5 MB disks on the 1970 main frame in our testlab and larger than the 1980 minicomputer disks of 5 MB + 2.5 MB removable. I have to admit, later we used huge disks 60 MB for the main frame (read/write speed: 312KB/s; average seek time: 65 msec) and 80 MB for the mini. Nowadays I use a modest 512 GB nvme-SSD (PCIe 3.0 at 3400/2300 MB/s). I also use 2 HDDs (1 TB and 500 GB both with ~9 power-on years). It is used with 2x 500 GB partitions in Raid-0 and one 500 GB single partition, both supported by one 128 GB sata-SSD cache.
SSDs are fantastic. They're fast. So fast, they save me having to spend any time trying to recover from a failed SSD. Every single one that has failed is totally unrecoverable. Spinning rust? I can usually recover a good portion of the data with a bit of work.
your guy's content is soo truthful and honest and upfront that even if all major hardware people stopped seeding products, and you became extremely late to all the launches. At least I'd still come around because there's so much value in honest reporting and you own your mistakes. If I had money I'd buy a screwdriver, and a Backpack.
I love my NVME drive and I also love my larger capacity hard drive. The SSD speeds are nice on the OS, while having a good amount of storage on the HDD for cheaper feels great as well. With SSD boot drives regularly being >$30 it does make sense from a marketing standpoint for Microsoft to urge a changeover.
Dreams cheating wasn't just a mistake. He even hired someone to do bad math to try and make it look like the odds were not totally unrealistic. He really dug himself a giant hole. He knew the consequences of people finding out he cheated and he deserves all of it.
@@The_Viktor_Reznov maybe the initial mistake wasn't malicious but denying when you are entirely sure it's a possibility is different. And beyond that, there's a regular denial, and then siccing your audience on the referees and accusing them of being biased.
@@Spolt_main I don't even know about any performance mod. I only heard about the drop rate mode. And it wasn't "for months on end", the discussion was about 6 runs.
I don't really agree, I feel like the karl jobst video cleared dream of the most egregious wrongdoing, but the way he handled the whole thing was really pretty meh Dream reacted in the way that someone who believes they are innocent would.
5:36 hey Linus, I think we all have had this conversation. I have a friend who totally believes Microsoft pc’s can’t go on the internet. She proceeded to point out that her MacBook has wifi and that somehow makes it the default choice for web surfers. And we where arguing about a Windows XP computer she brought for cheap. Mind you this was when windows 8 was young and the sorts. We shifted the argument to usage after saying her apple was faster. She had this mud stomping brand new pc, doing her emails, and the occasional UA-cam video. Apple creates specialty power houses; the MacBook could do emails in it’s sleep… but that doesn’t it has weaknesses,
On the screwdriver magnetic tip, make sure the magnet isn't what's in contact with the bit, the magnet over time will break. They always do. Have the magnet slightly recessed. And scratches are inevitable. But have the black blued on instead of paint.
LOVE to have a video to go through all the design process and thoughts for different aspects of the product (screw driver) It's outside of the IT tech domain but is really entertaining to watch as well imo.
The solar heating/cooling question is something I'm currently wrapping my head around. My brother recently installed his solar system and data (under two months) has confirmed that heating of the panels is a significant factor for power production (which I already knew, from reading research about solar in general). My mother is talking about installing solar at her place and I'm planning a grey water-based cooling system for the panels (either spraying water on top of the panels or having the water go through metal pipes attached to the back of the panels). *Maybe* I should convince her to get a pool instead :P
You could also talk to her about the ones Linus got that are already plumbed up. If she doesn't want a pool it could be used as part of your hot water system to help cut down on your energy/gas use for the normal water heating system. Yeah they're more expensive up front but they pay themselves back through reduction of other costs and if you can sell the excess back to the grid at a good rate
2:00:09 Luke: "And they [Shorts] are not difficult to dodge" I'm in the minority of people who consumes UA-cam basically entirely through their subscription feed, and shorts are pretty hard to dodge. Some creators have turned to releasing batches of shorts at once, multiple times a week. Even 2-3 of those instantly makes your subscription feed quasi-unusable since they've basically flooded out all the other long form content. And with creators increasing adding thumbnails to their shorts, it often hard to quickly parse what is and isn't a short. The only effective solution I've found to this is to unsubscribe from creators who upload shorts.
@@ddc171 Yes and that was how I initially dealt with it. But as shorts were posted more and more, my routine became "hide 7 shorts I don't care about to get to one long form video" rinse and repeat. It became tiresome enough to where unsubscribing was the easier option
The "inflation" being seen right now is not monetary, it is scarcity driven. Scarcity driven because of post-lockdown hangover effects from half the world shutting down it's economy for two years, a shortage of shipping capacity because of manpower shortages (because of lockdowns) in all aspects of logistics, and also production. For example there has been a shortage of shoes in the first six months of the year from some manufacturers because most shoes are produced in Vietnam, and the factories in Vietnam were shutdown because of government enforced lockdowns. Because of the shortage of shoes, the price of shoes goes up. The real risk with the current situation is scarcity and resulting "inflation" having a constricting effect on the economy and causing deflation, which can be observed in the velocity of money (i.e. the number of transactions which are taking place). Oil & gas prices are increasing because there is net shortage of oil and gas production in the world because (I) the U.S. has stopped being a net-exporter, and (II) because of (particularly) oil price instability over the last ten years there has been an under investment in bringing on-line new capacity to meet increasing demand, and (III) the reduction of Russian oil & gas because of sanctions. Also remember that the price you pay *now* for energy reflects what people think the cost will be in the future. It is a forward price. The price you pay for gas at the pump, reflects what the gas station thinks it will need to pay for the next delivery of gas.
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PLEASE don't delete your WAN Ancient History Shows!!!!! They are relevant in so many ways to people seeking perspective from a vantage point we no longer have access to. It would be ideal to allow them to be searchable from this perspective concerning their present day value.
Bit like The Computer Chronicles.
@@emeraldbonsai Cancel culture is a cancer, piss into the face of it and leave them all up!
@@emeraldbonsai I don't think Linus cares
They should Unlist them and put them in a Playlist
@@emeraldbonsai good point, but Linus is basically imune to that because if you dont give a f*** the cancelling is less probable since he does not care so they dont get any acknowlegement for their actions by him so he wont unless its something major like Framework deciding to be shady and Linus being like: "This is fine" only such a case we might get any reaction
Bootleg time stamps (now complete?)
0:00 Greetings, topic previews
1:17 Intro
1:39 sponsors
1:45 First topic SSD
12:20 Summer Game Fest
21:18 Dream NAS controversy
21:25 controversal collab list
22:25 Linus starts talking chair adjustments during Dream topic
23:42 return to Dream
35:00 segue from keep giving us feedback, like Dream to LMG is so big
36:17 Riley or Anthony's take on Dream
41:32 Merch message labs impact on sponsors
41:40 screwdriver controversy
46:35 Bill C11
49:20 screwdriver poll update
56:56 FP comment
1:00:14 screwdriver poll
1:05:10 pop up shop
1:07:50 Lab2 News Community LAN party
1:22:15 Sponsor Block
1:24:51 inquiry AC at LAN , AC, weather discussion
1:30:40 Linus echo
1:31:48 good now
1:31:52 Merch messages
1:33:16 Inflation impact on Creator Warehouse
1:38:31 gas prices impact on electric vehicles
1:40:46 Yvonne's LMG impact (don't miss this)
1:49:49 3D Printed Homes
1:50:21 iPad OS floating windows or anything announced
1:51:36 Gaming on Mac
1:53:51 Horst in dock about WWDC2022
1:57:06 Why LMG does YT Shorts
2:02:06 Ivan's Ukraine charity GPU auction
2:04:02 Merch Messages
2:04:08 New (future) LTT products
2:04:22 broken cap water bottle
2:04:42 New products
2:06:03 screwdriver shaft oxide coating?
2:06:27 Pool tech?
2:09:04 Floatplane: Actman demonitized on UA-cam
2:10:06 Pool, heat exchange HVAC
2:11:11 Jasco(sp?) update
2:11:30 2 mini unboxings? another time
2:11:38 m.m. concrete thermal conductivity? More pool cooling
Doing the Lord's work right here.
Literally been refreshing the video waiting for these. Cheers mate!
Even if it's bootleg, these are super useful, thank you!
They don't seem to be correct.
THANK YOU!
Thank you Yvonne for all your hardwork. We appreciate everything you've done for LMG
Yeah holy crap. I knew she was instrumental but that's next level
Linus is the luckiest guy on earth to have Yvonne. She saved him from killing himself against his favor. She paid the guys using her money. How can we guys find more like her, it's difficult and luck based odds.
You know you had a good sleep when you fall asleep to new LLT and wake up with some old WAN show going on
Happent to me weekly, Friday nights are by best sleep, even if I go, I end the night drunk or sober with WAN
This I can agree 110% !
Thought I was the only one
LTT has excellent product development staff and designers, but, just in case you all have not considered looking into alternative metal finishes for the LTT screwdriver shaft, there are two durable metal finishes used on firearms:
1. is a tough surface coating applied to metals to improve the surface properties. Its primary benefits are increased hardness, wear resistance, corrosion resistance, and reduced surface friction. It is extremely thin (
@SuperWhisk you probably have to pay to know that ;P
Cerakote is the name of a Harding coating applied to firearms and other materials.
1:37:00 I always admire Linus's transparency in many areas of business that most creators are very very closeted over. Steve (GN) and Linus really standout like that and honestly, that just increases the credibility for me.
lol
@@TheCloudhopper Oh goodness. I was carrying in a bunch of stuff in my arms late at night. Never meant to comment anything, let alone an "lol" on a well thought out comment. Must've just bumped all the right places on my phone screen listening to the podcast and carrying things.
Apologies for that. For what it's worth I agree with you. Beyond credibility I love that he talks about areas of business in general. I am fascinated by the way Linus talks about the business being run and am consistently impressed with how intelligently they run their company.
@@claytonmontgomery8124 ok
With regard to the screwdriver shaft, from past experience I would recommend going with silver version as the standard. Given the support shown for a black version and the likely use case of the average LTT viewer why not offer a temporary "blackout special edition" that is capped at 10 or 20k (whatever multiple of order quantity sells I suppose?). It could even come with a disclaimer around wear on the shaft that has to be accepted before ordering, but would allow those wanting the black version the opportunity to get one.
That's exactly what I thought: just do both! Regular edition and "chipable black" edition (because it's not a bug, it's a feature)
They could also offer the silver with a black rubber sleeve on the shaft to black out the silver edition, something similar to wera Allen wrenches
Would go for the black if the only reason they dont is due to wear. Wear is cool and it gives you a more professional look.
A good example would be when you visit a construction site. When you see people with scuffed up clothes you know that they are the worked and they know what they are doing. The last person you want to talk to in the field is the guy with shiny new clothes who is some fancy brat from the office visiting over the day.
Would also prefer the orange/black handle easier to see when you need it.
@@pedroxqui don’t give Apple any ideas XD
@@Nickerian91 yeah honestly it’s a lot like seeing a skateboarder with a clean with no marks board. Like you just have to assume they barely use it
don't delete the old wan shows!
I still listen to them somewhat regularly, I already watched all the recent wan shows so old wan shows are great for me.
they're podcasts anyways, so the corrupt screen doesn't really matter much. it did scare me because I thought my gpu was dying, but that's fine lol
Do you actually have the video ID of one that is "corrupted" I want to look into it. I don't think it is an issue with the videos persay.
@@EwanMarshall march 29, 2014 was the one that scared me enough to send a screenshot to a friend telling them about the jumpscare. the preview image from the timeline scrubbing looks fine, but it looks completely corrupted on both desktop and mobile
Don't delete the old wan shows.
Delete all the shorts !!!
@@ahreuwu i saw this too when i went back to watch
They're available as a podcast btw. If the problem is the video, they'll probably keep all the podcast episodes up
Watching them talking about how the development of that one damn screwdriver has been going on for months to ever so slightly improve the user experience and longevity of the product, makes me want to buy it. I don't even use screwdriver that often, it just shows how LMG pretty much want the best for the merch they're selling.
I can’t wait to start screwing!
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If Linus hasn't installed the pool stuff yet, then make sure its 2 loops! One around the deepest part of the pool and one around the walls. The PC's and servers get hooked upto the deepest park, because thermodynamics and flow means this will always be the several degrees or more cooler than the rest! Look forward to seeing it!
Props to Yvonne for keeping our boy alive and helping LMG be a thing. 😘
I don't think Yvonne gets enough credit for how much LMG was down to her as much or more than Linus himself (as he has said multiple times). She always gets good comments when on camera mind so hope she knows
@@ejasmith 100%
I have to say the way this man does not even have to think for a sec before he says his wife is the reason he is where he is today and how he owes her his life is awesome
Interacting with this to get it to the top. Yvonne's a real one
Buying another HDD out of spite.
I need to buy one anyways, now I have a better reason than practicality, spite.
Amen!
HDD are still handy to offload your games library onto. And then I just move the most played games to my SSD.
Make sure its cheap else you'll be put a ton of money when Linus drops it
@@SanderEvers yep its a lot faster than redownloading. 3-5min maybe a little more
0:00 - Introduction
1:18 - Intro
1:44 - Topic 1: Microsoft is trying to kill HDDs
• 3:17 - Manufacturers are choosing high capacity HDD over fast SSD
• 4:00 - Apple produced early MacBook Air with SSDs only
- 4:31 - Linus's Uncle's business partner bragged about speed of his Mac
• 5:22 - PC Manufacturers don't want to put good things into the machine
- 5:50 - Luke's experience with people that want Macbook
• 6:47 - Manufacturers as root cause of the problem
• 7:27 - It's the problem that existed 10 years ago!
• 7:47 - We can check it on sites like UA-cam
- 7:57 - Interjection: bad audio/image on old WAN shows
- 8:55 - Back to the topic: comments and dislikes on HDD vs SSD comparison video
• 9:38 - There's a lot of fear around SSD
- 9:48 - Content about how not to ruin SSD
- 10:08 - It won't improve gameplay
• 10:43 - 2TB hard drive with price of an SSD
(I'm still making it, be patient :)
Next video: Linus trying to spend 5 minutes with every employee in the course of a workday. Can’t wait!
i have been watching re runs of old wan shows and even when it was still just the archive in the background at work for months if not years at this point and i would be incredibly sad if they went away, its always funny and interesting in today perspective to hear what you were discussing from years ago and if actually happened or it failed or nothing came of it at all
Same
To answer the pool/concrete question at the end of the show... It is a common construction practice, for a price obviously, to use the same radiant heat systems embedded in/under a driveway to negate snow and ice buildup. So yes, radiant heat through a pool wall will most definitely dump the heat into the water.
A friend of mine is putting in a pool and he got recommended to put in radiant (by and experienced plumber) in his slab as heating for the pool as cheapest and customizable when it comes to where the heat comes from. A tip he had was to put in several loops instead of one otherwise you risk one side getting warmer then the other. He also commented on the pros and cons of it. Pros: cheaper in general, no corrosive pool water to degrade system in the loop, heating can come from any source (electricity, wood, heat pump, loop on roof...). Cons: No retrofit pretty much has to be done at install, slower reaction time in system takes a while to get up to temperature.
Linus ofc has a few more things to worry about: Is the heat from solar panels and server room to much/to little. Does he really want to dump the heat outside in winter when he is heating the home
@@scania9786 Thats exactly what I would be worried about. If the pool is already warm and you are trying to cool with it you need every bit of thermal conductivity especially sice the water in a PC loop usually dosnt get that warm to beginn with
The problem is the goal here isn't heating, that's the side effect. The goal is cooling. The question is whether enough of the heat will dump through the concrete to cool the water and thus the PCs?
I suspect that the HUGE thermal mass of having a cooling loop that long will make it a bit irrelevant.
I use your old wan shows as background noise when I sleep. Sometimes I process the video into weird dreams.
Lol, I rather prefer nature sounds for something like that.😅
Well......... everyone's got something
No way?! I have tinnitus and I use the wan show to distract me from the ringing sound while also gaining some knowledge while trying to sleep :D
@@Calski4G Damn. I have tinnitus as well and I use Zero Punctuation compilation videos as a sleeping aid.
Lmfao I did that with a shark movie one time and had some terrifying dreams
I get a ton of old WAN show recommendations which is so weird I just found the channel a year ago. Built my first pc last week!
Congratulations on your PC
@@soda_YEET thanks! It was super rewarding
May your framerates be high,
And your temperatures low
Your going to never be able to buy a prebuilt again :) Enjoy it! it's fun!
welcome to the club
10 years ago, SSDs didn't last that long. We had them in our developer machines at that time. A sizeable percentage of them died after 3-6 months, though the speed improvement made them still worth the hassle. But reliability was an issue with the first generations of SSDs.
Yeah but for average users they already were reliable enough didn't they? I stated using ssds until 2013 so I don't know if there were some reliability changes in that time.
From what I remember, a lot of the problems came from one of two sources: either the OS was trying to defragment them or failing to initialize the trash collection routines on the controller, or the storage controller got way too hot and the solder became embrittled with oxides and the connection cracked. Nowadays the controllers are better cooled and use underflow to help try to protect the solder balls and prevent the controllers from lifting from the board. That part only kinda sorta helps, so it's mostly down to more adequate cooling and higher performance controllers. The storage media itself tended to be SLC or DLC, so it actually was pretty decent unless you were defragmenting it or something
@@mndlessdrwer yep, most OS didn’t have TRIM support yet.
I just had my first SSD fail (3-4 years of usage as a shared family PC). Can't even format the thing
WAN Show is the only content i like to watch without increasing playback speeds so i can enjoy it for longer. Good job guys 😁
Having a parts store at a LAN seems like a must. At a lot of drifting events there will be at least 1 pop up shop there with common parts and it makes the whole event go much smoother when people can stay even when something breaks
Drifting and a LAN is very different.
same with drag events, particularly the drag and drive style, manufacturers and stores will follow the race around with a combination of common parts and demo pieces for upcoming products.
@@emeraldbonsai what???
Some events have sponsors selling products from their own booths. It's pretty common. Sometimes you can buy spare parts off the admins if you're in a pinch.
In 1989 I was a grad student and a young professor who’d been a fellow grad student told me it was time for no hard drives. I told him it was inevitable but it would take another few decades. Back then he was willing to settle for a hard drive farm with a central server, so at least he didn’t have to listen to a hard drive on his desktop machine…
39:40 it’s very cut and dry, there’s a clip of Dream saying that getting doxxed isn’t a big deal if you don’t have a following, in response to his fans doxxing a minor for disagreeing with him
Yeah that on top of other dumb things he’s also said
It's not that hard to find how bad dream is. It's honestly surprising how he still has a following and such a big one at that
@@fartpooplover789 is it though? He's a human 🤷 dudes not perfect people like someone they can relate too
@@michaelf.2449 the problem isn't him making mistakes, the problem is how many he made. It makes you question whether or not he's actually sorry for what he does
@@fartpooplover789 he probably doesn't care because honestly I wouldn't either. He's a guy who plays games not some government official he's just doing his own thing
I feel ya Linus on learning on your own terms! You’ve been an inspiration that you don’t have to take the traditional route to succeed. Worked for a tech company for 4.5 years doing tech support and worked into an apprenticeship for a software engineering position 6 months ago.
On 3d printed homes, the ones Ive seen usually have hollow walls, theyre pretty thick walls but they basically just print a perimeter like a normal plastic 3d printer would. It allows for insulation and reinforcement in the middle, and penetrations like wiring you just place the conduit on top of one layer and print the next layer over the top.
Agree with Linus it doesnt seem ready for mainstream, but the benefit is the same as for regular 3d printers: you can design and create unique / "prototype" prints with minimal adjustment to the workflow.
I don't think you need to prototype houses. A tech to rapidly build homes already exists and has been perfected by, actually, communists.
They needed a way to quickly provide housing for tons of people. So they made a few designs that used pre-fabricated, pre-stressed concrete panels that you make in a factory, ship to the final location and only put them together. Unlike with 3D printed concrete (where the concrete is weak, you need to wait for it to settle, etc.) you can build this really high if you want to, and it will last indefinitely with no maintenance as long as the roof above it is intact.
The panel buildings aren't pretty, but they work extremely well for the price. Communist urban housing was actually really good; like, they also planned well for schools, public transportation, greenery, etc.
Hahaha seeing Linus and Luke geeking out over how this Lan party will work is awesome 😎 They are really into it! Love to see it 😊
My first SSD was such a huge difference, it was a "once you go black, you never go back" kind of moment
WD black, that is
Mutts law
8:20 oh I got hooked on old WAN shows recently! Despite being only 6-8 years ago, it feels like a time capsule from another era. And its fun to see all the predictions people had for today (especially Linus).
It feels sometimes like watching people from the 80`s talking there would be flying cars everywhere by the year of 2020 :)
honestly.. SSD was the best thing. I tried to convince work.. failed. Clearly the retailer knows better than the IT guy. I put a little SSD in my EEEPC notebook, and holy hell! what a change, that machine became usable!
Why would the guy who's payed to know about IT know more than the guys getting payed to sell you stuff?
@@soundninja99 Sometimes people stay outdated. I've got electrical engineering profs who can't coope with tech.
We've got two old laptops which are each at least 15 year old now, and recently slapped an ssd in one because the harddrive cracked up again. Just a cheap 25 bucks 250Gb ssd. But now the Pc boots up so quick it's like the thing works now.
@@Daniel-dj7fh I've got programming profs that need help with tech lol.
As a person who doesn't really use TikTok (I have a job, can't be stuck scrolling down for hours) but understands the advantages of the format I find UA-cam Shorts really cool. You don't come to UA-cam directly to watch them so you aren't in that 'TikTok mindset' as I would call it and you can easily stop after one comes up in the recommended feed. I think the best ones are a little sneak peeks into the future, it really makes you look forward to that episode. The other Shorts that are being recommended to me are from NileRed and I love how his long format content is 'proceed with caution' kinda thing and his Shorts are a direct opposition to that. Love the creativity that can come with them.
2:11:38 Yes, it definitely is. I had a hot water circulation system installed on our new house that provided instant hot water at all taps. The plumber didn't fully understand the concept and failed to insulate the circulation lines in the concrete foundation. The resulting heat being leeched out of the lines into the foundation caused my hot water heater to stay on 24/7 and the cats had hot spots all over the dining room and kitchen floor to lay in because it was all tile in those rooms. You could feel with your bare feet where the lines were running.
Seeing as it was in the foundation, we had to just unplug the circulation system pump and it now takes longer than ever to get hot water to each tap.
Hard drives aren't going anywhere yet.
For inexpensive bulk storage, SSD isn't even in the same neighborhood as hard drives.
And for bulk storage (not scratch disk, not active use disk, not cache), NOBODY is going to drop thousands of dollars per drive to go solid state until you get out to "money to burn" territory.
it's about boot disk
HDDs are still better if you want to just store something on it and then physically store the device, because SSDs lose the data if they aren't plugged in for a while. However, this is about boot drives, for which HDDs aren't any good compared to SSDs.
@@NoNameAtAll2 title, thumbnail and talking point imply hard drives are dead altogether
oh you, the anti clickbait warrior
@@leonro I honestly disagree. SSDs are better than Hard drives for booting, sure... but a 7200RPM hard drive is no slouch when it comes to booting.
10:00 To be fair, I also treated my first SSD like glass but more because of the price tag. My first SSD was a 128GB model and it cost me ~400$. That shit was expensive as hell.
I can believe it. It wasn't until a few years ago I built a system with an SSD. More recently I replaced the boot drive and added a secondary drive each of which cost around $400, hold 4TB, and are gen 4 (not at my PC to check the exact model number but they're WD black m.2s and were basically the fastest thing I could afford).
Similar, my first SSD was about 6 years ago, 128gb cost me like £250, it's still my boot drive, although since then I've added a second 1TB SSD as my primary game storage then another 3 4TB HDDs for games I don't care much about load times.
My first SSD was pretty expensive, but it was also SLC, so considering that 64GB drive was equivalent to 192GB today it's not quite as bad as people think.
And that highlights the exact reason why I would've never had a laptop with an SSD at that time. At the very least, it would've cost as much as the laptop itself.
Yvonne just needs (edit: to receive) an award for being the mother, wife, and business partner of a lifetime from what it sounds like. It makes me happy to hear how supportive she has been to Linus, and even more so to hear how much appreciation they have for her. Sometimes it is just great to hear about good people that go above and beyond being recognized and appreciated for it.
No just no.
I remember formatting my first 10 Mb. hard drive on an IBM PC, things have changed alot.
"OFFCIALLY" the greatest thumbnail.
In response to your old WAN shows. You could unlist them and then pin a thread on the LTT forum with links as an archive for people who want to watch the old shows.
That's a great idea
I like old Wan suggestions, many I hadn't heard
No I wasn’t a ltt fan back then. I still like to listen to them like a podcast because I haven’t listened to them yet and Iam not on the ltt Forum
Or you can unlist them and just have them in a playlist on the channel. I know a lot of content creators who do this with their livestreams; don't have them public but make them easily accessible through a playlist.
@@iClone101 I completely forgot that was a thing. A playlist would be way better.
I remember having teachers & students moa ING like hell about how terrible school laptops were because they were all sub £500 per unit.
I remember spending months badgering the management to just buy 3 or 4 ssds & do a trial. Honestly the hassle I got was unreal.
When I needed a new server for the MIS I got a Dell 28 core with 5 Intel enterprise ssds & management couldn't believe how fast that server booted up into Windows server - argument won
Am currently having the fight/battle/encouragement with the student laptops at 2 primary schools. All the staff have them, and they all hate the HDD student laptops, but can't get them to spend £20 a laptop when shiny iPads exist.
I've added free SSDs to few (64gb hand-me-downs) and labeled them as SSD so I'm hoping the idea will catch on.
Though, they are both soon moving to individual logins in order to monitor k-12 terrorism or whatever...at which point they'll discover they'll have alerts from an iPad ....but no login so no specific person identified.
@@miff227 I love it that schools wet themselves over the shiny with no practical use for the technology, no lesson plans, no plan on how to manage them, no plan for keeping students on task & so many other things vs a laptop with Windows, group policy & some kind of academic monitoring software.
Don't get me wrong it can be done on ios but it's not as simple as with a laptop with a unique login & managed software via group policy & active directory.
Thank you for you and your wife's determination in making the business larger and soon an industry leader...I can't wait to see and listen to all the specs covered in the new lab space
@1:41:00 TLDR: Yvonne saved Linus' life, soul, and mental health.
One of the greatest declarations of love and appreciation.
We need an Yvonne Appreciation Day sometime on LTT, or better yet on all LMG channels(on the same day) because of her we get all the information and entertainment we enjoy daily.
A bit creepy, to be honest.
Waiting for the Timestamp champion
they’re still not here :(
I looked for that Based man and he isn't here. Never know what you have until it's Gon.
Still waiting 🫠
Hes here
Bip Bop right below your comment, a mere 2 hours later.
With the screw drivers I'm personally a huge fan of tooling looking like they've been used. I prefer the way the black looks initially and I love that it'll show how much I've used it. To me tools that look loved but still work perfectly are fantastic
YEah im the same, but i also agree they should make it silver cos the amount of hassle from people who dont like it will be huge and those of us who prefer wear marks arent gonna not buy it cos its silver (even if black woulda been kickass)
My dad was on top of technology back then. I remember when I got my first laptop with an SSD in 2012-13. It was an HP envy (the hinge broke within like 2 years RIP) and dang the boot time blew my mind.
Linus' business strategy/secret:
"Get a wife"
get a good* wife
"their archive system is when their iphone fills, they just get another iphone"
Well that's the worst thing I've ever heard
but it's not wrong
I remember getting my first ssd, and then trying to convince friends to get one too, it took a while, but every single one had the same reaction to it (holy shit that's fast), despite being very hard to convince of the benefits beforehand
I work in a pc shop, when the first ssd's were getting a little bit cheaper, but still were far from common, my boss bought a pallet of cheaper previous gen laptops. I put ssd's in all of them except one, that one went onto the shop floor, next to one with ssd. All we had to do when a customer needed a new (low-medium end) laptop, was to take em to those two, and push the power button at the same time. They sold themselves by booting in ~20 seconds instead of 80.
And since our standard customer today still uses less than 50gb of drive space, the low capacity was a non-issue.
I was fortunate in that my friends were all as techie as I am, so it wasn't really that hard, but apparently convincing the average consumer that "installing an SSD will reduce loading times of every single program to the extent that it will revolutionize your computing experience" is really hard. Nowadays all computers come with SSDs, so people just don't realize that the thing they balked at before has become their new norm and they fail to recognize this and just take it for granted. Even moving to NVMe from a conventional SATA SSD isn't as striking as moving from spinning rust to solid state storage was back before NVMe was a thing.
my fav collab you guys did was with smarter every day glad you got to see the space and rocket center in my state!
It only took you 12 years Linus! Funny thing is, HDDs are still very useful for major data storage (comparable SSD solutions are still way more expensive). For the main OS however, SSDs are the only sensible option for new builds and they're cheap enough to get 1-2 TB configurations without spending too much nowadays.
Funny you mentioned it.. I get lots of 8years old WAN shows recommended.
You two were so young back then!
Btw I was following you back then and even before that in the NCIX days and I was always like man this dude has it all figured out and living the dream!
The problem with shorts is that you can't rewind them, and that they're promoting them just as hard as they promote ads in Google.
I dunno what I am more excited to see content about.
Linus cooling his server room using pool water or the LAN Party because LANs are the very definition of fun (and debugging networks).
Talking about your wife, and what she did for you, had me crying. I haven't seen her much on videos, but when I have she seems like such a positive influence. I'm glad you found her and are still here making great things with great people Linus 🙏
You can't say how cool it is to be able to rewind time by watching old UA-cam videos and 10 seconds later say you want to delete old Wan Shows episodes.
He didn't say he wanted to delete them, he said he'd probably be wise to delete them (because of cancel culture). He also said he isn't going to delete them.
On SSD vs Hard Disks: We were using laptops while cruising the West Coast of the Americas. We went with SSD's (learned this the HARD WAY) because of their higher HEAT tolerances. Conventional Hard Drives started to fail at 45 Degrees Centigrade, while SSD's add at least a 15 degree margin of safety. Unlike conventional hard drives we never had a SSD fail due to operating temperature. In fact they ran cooler than the standard laptop drives, transferring less heat to the rest of the laptop components. We still are using a couple of the bigger SSD's we had back then, over ten years ago.
ArmA 3 is another great example of a game where being on an SSD massively improves gameplay. Night and day.
I would expect that. Glad to hear it's confirmed.
Linus: hard drives are DEAD!
Me after having finally decided to build my first big NAS...
Screwdriver: All you need to change is have the shafts sandblasted before being powder coated. Powder coating is WAY more durable than any kind of anodizing
In the past 10 years Luke's laugh has never ceased to bring joy.
This video helped me focus. Hearing what Linus says and doing a "three in a row" game for college was fun
2 weeks later and I finally watched this WAN show. Maybe 10 years ago people thought that the SSD would make their PC into a Commodore 64. The old Commodore would boot up immediately, but was quite deficient compared to PCs.
for the sleeping over part, what we do at the local lan party we host once a year is have a dedicated sleeping area. you are not allowed to sleep in front of your pc or in the gaming area.
we where usually around 200-400 people. we did also have paramedics and police at location, and it is definitively useful.
though this was before c hit, so quite some time ago now.
I don't have any hate on y'all for making the collab video, but the reason i still dislike Dream and don't think his apology means anything is because he tried to go out of his way to discredit the speedrunning community because they thought he was cheating(rightfully), it shows to me he genuinely doesn't care for the community he's in and would try turn on them publicly with a very impressionable audience(children)
Life goals: Find someone who is like Yvonne
Found her
SSD gave a seconde life to old laptops, and gave work to IT repaire business.The good IT repaire stores took the opportunity to clean and change thermale pastes, the clients were realy happy to keep there PC.
Can confirm UA-cam recommends me ancient WAN shows.
Sounds like the Canadian government found out that there’s a whole genre of apology videos
I would love to see a deep-dive explanation about what made the screwdriver so unique and why it took so much work, and I think having that information included in the official screwdriver announcement video is the perfect way to do it.
If the black and silver were both offered, I would buy the black even knowing about the wear, but it being silver would not even slightly affect my decision to purchase.
But black looks soo cool.
@@siddharthkapadia7674 Agreed and the other question I would have is how much it would wear for the people who purchase it because I doubt most people buying it will use it as much as Linus has to use it but I am not sure.
I don’t need another screwdriver, but I do need to feel like a technician for the empire!! Jus sayin 🤷♂️
@@siddharthkapadia7674 you can spray paint it any colour and finish, again and again,, silver seems like better choice
I was always in on SSD's. First one I had was in my dual-core HP laptop which was outfitted originally with a terrible 5400 rpm 320Gb Toshiba. After a few months of use, boot times were horrific, taking upwards of two minutes of thrashing before I got to a screen. Then starting any software started the thrashing again. The laptop was nigh unusable.
Swapped it out for a 128gb SSD, paid about $150 for it, and went from minutes to boot, to seconds to boot. I was hooked, never looked back, and started swapping over my website server to SSDs for boot drives, and then data drives. In fact, my webserver is still using the 64gb Crucial M4 SSD and it's STILL in perfect working order.
Honestly, I do like watching content from Canada (Im living in canada) more than other countries. It makes me feel more connected to the content. Every time I watch a video and I notice that its filmed in Canada, im like "Yo thats canada!" and feel a bit of pride. Thats just emotional impact tho
4:00 The first 2 models of the MacBook Air did have HDD. In fact they used the same hard drive that they used in the iPod classic’s.
The first MacBook Air was over 1000$ with a 80gb hdd and another 1000$ for an ssd upgrade which only had 64gb.
my bad! - LS
Yvonne is the best.
She certainly is!
I just wish UA-cam would shovel shorts out of the main video flow. it should be able to be "filtered" out if the person selects they don't want to see them.
Why would I sit back like that? XD to lean back and watch The WAN Show on my PC with a cup of tea at lunchtime! XD
On the pool not needing “HVAC” topic, what most think of is direct expansion and in the case of what Linus is explaining is indirect expansion where water is commonly the refrigerant used. Most large commercial buildings are heated and cooled this way utilizing cooling towers.
In the UK on the home page it has a news feed section which is exclusively mainstream UK news channels, giving what they deem the most important story of the day. They could maybe have a area level one like for me North West of England so you can see what the most important stories in your area are today, such as a festival, new sculpture etc. Getting people more engaged in there local community and then you could even drop down to a local town level to give even more specific local news.
Okay, time to fix the spelling in the thumbnail now.
No
its quirky, they should keep it
Was it not spelled correctly?
@@avery2274 it is wrong 🤣
@@arsyilwiradinata heck, you're right, lol, I just noticed after taking my 5th look at it
I was working at IM Flash Technologies starting in 2006. At some point they offered employees highly discounted SSDs and I scooped one up for my system.
It was absolutely the biggest upgrade as far as my user experience in my entire PC using life which began in the early 90s. There will never be a bigger experience difference with such a simple upgrade ever again.
I wish I had some sata ssds...
Also, where does the "5+ year old hard drives are unreliable" thing come from? The only hard drives that died on me or came dead where the early 1tb drive from a WD media box and the seagate drive I pulled from a dish dvr.
@@qwertykeyboard5901 I've never had a HDD or SSD die on me.
@@gameface6091 Yeah, most of my storage is reliable.
Oh, and that drive from the dvr was dead when I picked it up. The nicotine glazed dust must of killed the motor controller as it cant spin. Man that was so disappointing :(
There is another big experience upgrade also when you use a high refresh monitor. That's what it felt like for me.
@@i54robert That's a good point. It hasn't been the WOW my life has changed situation like the SSD was, but I'm sure for many people the visual difference is a bigger deal.
Reasons I watch any video of LTT:
90% Linus Media Group employees reminiscing about the glory days of PC RTS games
10% Tech Tips
P.S. Total Annihilation was my jam.
"Why would you ever want to sit back like that?"
- Sitting back like that while watching this video.
Be careful with pool heating from your server room because it can work in the oposite side. Also dont forget about expansion tank because floor heating has a lot of water and water expands
The pool water will never get to a temperature where the servers would ever have an issue keeping below 100c.
Mac LAN gaming story: Back in the grand ole days of 2006 my friend and I installed halo on our macbooks in high school and would have LAN matches during study hall. Over the next couple months other kids in the school caught on and I think at one point there was around 250-300 kids a day playing halo across the school, at any given moment we had 20-30 people minimum available for matches. Many of us became proficient at keyboard and trackpad halo.
Eventually the teachers and system admins caught on to people playing halo during not only study halls but even during class. Literally everyone had been downloading the game files every time they used a computer that didnt have the game installed, then leaving the game installed with the icon plain as day on the desktop. At first the admins set up a program to uninstall halo automatically from the laptops regularly, then blacklisted Halo so the game could not be download to the computers at all, this later escalated to purging all the install files, and even preventing the systems from opening the install files. Some students had tried saving the install file to a usb stick and the system admins actually managed to prevent the systems from recognizing the install file from a usb stick. Literally, there was no way for anyone to even get new copies of the games loaded onto the laptops or the server at all. The admins thoroughly believed that they had purged every single copy of the game or install folder from the system.
Rumor started to spread about a month after the halo purge that the two of us somehow still had access to the game. The system admins didnt seem to believe anyone could still have access to the game so they never even questioned us, and from their end they never saw halo installed on any of the laptops at the end of the day. My friend and i knew from day one what we were doing was probably not going to be received well and had decided the best thing to do was to save the install file to our server accounts (every student had about 40 gigs of server space i believe) so we could wipe the game from the system daily and reinstall it on any laptop in just a few minutes at the beginning of our studyhall. So Inevitably we ended up back where we started with just the two of us shooting one another casually in halo while doing some homework.
Given the privacy invasions I've heard about in recent years of how far schools have gone to monitor students behavior it does surprise me that they never considered scanning our personal accounts. Though I dont think the admins actually knew it was possible to install from the server without copying the install file to the laptop itself, so their software wasnt equipped to scan personal accounts or communication along that pathway. I guess thats the benefit of all the admin people back then having grown up in the pre internet/networking era. Our programming teacher started on the IBM punchcard systems. The two of us probably had just as much experience or more with LAN's and system admin as the people running the network did. We sure as hell didnt learn anything new in our programming class, not that you needed to know any programming just to instruct a program to install using the correct network/local directory pathways.
TLDR: Two 15 year old computer nerds appropriate high school network for daily occurring massive underground Macbook halo LAN party fight club involving at least 1/4th the school, other students break the first rule of fight club, school shuts down halo fight club, the two students continue their own private fight club to casually murder each other while doing homework.
What area did you go to school where in 2006 they were giving students laptops?
@@theboxofdemons Maine. and the first macbooks were issued to my grade level in 2003. Apple pushed pretty hard in the education sector back then. I think the guys even reminisced about it on WAN show years ago when discussing how google is pushing chromebooks the way apple used to with macbooks.
@@chrisstokes1334 Yeah I went to school in Chicago. But around me, 2010 would have been considered somewhat early for that bandwagon. We had over 4000 students at my school and they didn't even have assigned laptops or tablets until 2014, the year after I graduated.
I still remember my first HDD a whopping 20 MB in my 1988 P3105 XT-Clone, larger than the 7.5 MB disks on the 1970 main frame in our testlab and larger than the 1980 minicomputer disks of 5 MB + 2.5 MB removable. I have to admit, later we used huge disks 60 MB for the main frame (read/write speed: 312KB/s; average seek time: 65 msec) and 80 MB for the mini.
Nowadays I use a modest 512 GB nvme-SSD (PCIe 3.0 at 3400/2300 MB/s). I also use 2 HDDs (1 TB and 500 GB both with ~9 power-on years). It is used with 2x 500 GB partitions in Raid-0 and one 500 GB single partition, both supported by one 128 GB sata-SSD cache.
SSDs are fantastic. They're fast. So fast, they save me having to spend any time trying to recover from a failed SSD. Every single one that has failed is totally unrecoverable. Spinning rust? I can usually recover a good portion of the data with a bit of work.
your guy's content is soo truthful and honest and upfront that even if all major hardware people stopped seeding products, and you became extremely late to all the launches. At least I'd still come around because there's so much value in honest reporting and you own your mistakes. If I had money I'd buy a screwdriver, and a Backpack.
I love my NVME drive and I also love my larger capacity hard drive. The SSD speeds are nice on the OS, while having a good amount of storage on the HDD for cheaper feels great as well. With SSD boot drives regularly being >$30 it does make sense from a marketing standpoint for Microsoft to urge a changeover.
Dreams cheating wasn't just a mistake. He even hired someone to do bad math to try and make it look like the odds were not totally unrealistic. He really dug himself a giant hole. He knew the consequences of people finding out he cheated and he deserves all of it.
Unless he truly wasn't aware that he didn't disable the mods which would make him stupid or careless but not malicious.
@@The_Viktor_Reznov maybe the initial mistake wasn't malicious but denying when you are entirely sure it's a possibility is different. And beyond that, there's a regular denial, and then siccing your audience on the referees and accusing them of being biased.
@@Spolt_main I don't even know about any performance mod. I only heard about the drop rate mode.
And it wasn't "for months on end", the discussion was about 6 runs.
I don't really agree, I feel like the karl jobst video cleared dream of the most egregious wrongdoing, but the way he handled the whole thing was really pretty meh
Dream reacted in the way that someone who believes they are innocent would.
@@MCXL1140 Only edgy kids hate Dream.
I just recently bought a 8 TB HDD for 130 bucks off Amazon 😂. I prioritized capacity over speed so I'm content
Maybe buy a cheap 120gb SSD just for a boot drive and keep the massive HDD for storage. You get the best of both worlds
@@villacresesrenato way ahead of ya. I have a pny SSD that's 120gb I bought years ago, and a Samsung 250gb SSD
@@Michaelpalmer4k great man then you are pretty much set for a while in terms of storage
My NAS has 8 bays, it'll run hard drives until NAS spec SSD are the same price per GB :p
Yeah it still makes no sense to me to use an SSD on my NAS since it pretty much maxes out at like 100 Mbps, lower than my HDDs anyways.
That email though “you’re rubbing off me” 😂😂😂
"At this point in the video people that haven't tuned out will watch me read floatplane chats."
"Damn right I will."
Until I can buy an 8TB SSD or NVME for $100, HDDs aren't dead.
Exactly 😂. Just bought 16TB of HDDs. Couldn't afford that in NVMe
5:36 hey Linus, I think we all have had this conversation. I have a friend who totally believes Microsoft pc’s can’t go on the internet. She proceeded to point out that her MacBook has wifi and that somehow makes it the default choice for web surfers. And we where arguing about a Windows XP computer she brought for cheap. Mind you this was when windows 8 was young and the sorts.
We shifted the argument to usage after saying her apple was faster. She had this mud stomping brand new pc, doing her emails, and the occasional UA-cam video. Apple creates specialty power houses; the MacBook could do emails in it’s sleep… but that doesn’t it has weaknesses,
On the screwdriver magnetic tip, make sure the magnet isn't what's in contact with the bit, the magnet over time will break. They always do. Have the magnet slightly recessed. And scratches are inevitable. But have the black blued on instead of paint.
LOVE to have a video to go through all the design process and thoughts for different aspects of the product (screw driver)
It's outside of the IT tech domain but is really entertaining to watch as well imo.
Wait, are you valen the unity game dev vr guy?
no
@@valen8560 rip
Blue "titanium" like Craftsman had in their tools back in the day would be SWEET!
The solar heating/cooling question is something I'm currently wrapping my head around. My brother recently installed his solar system and data (under two months) has confirmed that heating of the panels is a significant factor for power production (which I already knew, from reading research about solar in general). My mother is talking about installing solar at her place and I'm planning a grey water-based cooling system for the panels (either spraying water on top of the panels or having the water go through metal pipes attached to the back of the panels). *Maybe* I should convince her to get a pool instead :P
You could also talk to her about the ones Linus got that are already plumbed up. If she doesn't want a pool it could be used as part of your hot water system to help cut down on your energy/gas use for the normal water heating system.
Yeah they're more expensive up front but they pay themselves back through reduction of other costs and if you can sell the excess back to the grid at a good rate
@@NyxHunter I could, but those are not really available in Brazil.. :(
Back when I first got my SSD, I could reboot my computer and log back into WoW before the rest of my raid even realized I had disconnected.
Thanks guys for all the great content and keeping me sane well I work 🙂
2:00:09 Luke: "And they [Shorts] are not difficult to dodge"
I'm in the minority of people who consumes UA-cam basically entirely through their subscription feed, and shorts are pretty hard to dodge. Some creators have turned to releasing batches of shorts at once, multiple times a week. Even 2-3 of those instantly makes your subscription feed quasi-unusable since they've basically flooded out all the other long form content. And with creators increasing adding thumbnails to their shorts, it often hard to quickly parse what is and isn't a short. The only effective solution I've found to this is to unsubscribe from creators who upload shorts.
Exactly. The Minute Physics/earth ones I had to just unsub from due to the amount of Shorts.
you know you can hide them from your subscription feed right
@@ddc171 HOW?! I have been trying everything
@@noytelinu just tap the 3 dots and there will be a button to hide it
@@ddc171 Yes and that was how I initially dealt with it.
But as shorts were posted more and more, my routine became "hide 7 shorts I don't care about to get to one long form video" rinse and repeat.
It became tiresome enough to where unsubscribing was the easier option
The "inflation" being seen right now is not monetary, it is scarcity driven. Scarcity driven because of post-lockdown hangover effects from half the world shutting down it's economy for two years, a shortage of shipping capacity because of manpower shortages (because of lockdowns) in all aspects of logistics, and also production. For example there has been a shortage of shoes in the first six months of the year from some manufacturers because most shoes are produced in Vietnam, and the factories in Vietnam were shutdown because of government enforced lockdowns. Because of the shortage of shoes, the price of shoes goes up. The real risk with the current situation is scarcity and resulting "inflation" having a constricting effect on the economy and causing deflation, which can be observed in the velocity of money (i.e. the number of transactions which are taking place).
Oil & gas prices are increasing because there is net shortage of oil and gas production in the world because (I) the U.S. has stopped being a net-exporter, and (II) because of (particularly) oil price instability over the last ten years there has been an under investment in bringing on-line new capacity to meet increasing demand, and (III) the reduction of Russian oil & gas because of sanctions. Also remember that the price you pay *now* for energy reflects what people think the cost will be in the future. It is a forward price. The price you pay for gas at the pump, reflects what the gas station thinks it will need to pay for the next delivery of gas.