Another interesting simulation. This would suggest that a 6th giant is not compatible with today's configuration, but of course in science we can't draw a conclusion from just one simulation. I experimented with this and my maximum appears to be 230 years/second. I decided to run the Solar System as it is today for 1 million years, and some... interesting things happened. I derived orbital periods, eccentricities etc. to as much accuracy as I could find on the internet. Over time, most of the planets saw a drop in eccentricity and inclination until it hit some sort of equilibrium, but Uranus and Neptune seem to have unstable orbits. Uranus is becoming increasingly eccentric and is getting closer to Saturn (within around 2 AU as opposed to today's ~10 AU), while Neptune's perihelion _and_ apehelion are increasing. I assume that eventually Uranus will interact with Saturn and Neptune, possibly leading to the ejection of one or both. Of course, I'm aware this isn't accurate to reality and the outer Solar System isn't on the brink of collapse after 4 billion years of apparent stability. Unfortunately US can't fully simulate N-body problems to 100% accuracy, and it can't seem to calculate resonances. However, perhaps we could draw the conclusion that the Ice Giant's orbits are the least stable of the planetary Solar System, and maybe over the timescale of hundreds of millions of years, their orbits are unstable and could have a chance of significantly changing, perhaps so much so that Uranus does interact with Saturn and Neptune in the distant future. By that point though, Earth will have undergone so many changes independent of other planets that the possibility of instability in the outer Solar System leading to Uranus or Neptune entering the inner Solar System is not something we should worry about.
Suggestion: Do a scenario with the regular solar system, but with an undiscovered exoplanet, Paxtyne. So, Paxtyne is a planet with an atmosphere and only a type of species called Chromobirds. Chromobirds roam around this planet and they are the only creatures that live here, because they can breathe the high levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and they can also breathe the 3% amount of sulfur and 2% of hydrogen sulfide, which makes this planet smell terrible. It has 1 moon, called Prixmite and is estimated to be about the size of Iapetus, Saturn’s moon. This exoplanet also has liquid methane lakes, which are very cold. This planet can be around -18° C.
4:18 Maybe 6th giant could be ejected to the far reaches 4:26 Maybe not 4:38 Nevermind..... 5:46 okay it's time for the fifth giant 5:49 yup 6th giant got ejected 6:03 Well maybe the same thing with theia and earth could happen to Uranus and Neptune 7:41 everything looking pretty stable 7:54 nevermind 8:31 NOW everything's looking stable
Universe Sandbox doesn't have the option to have additional views while in cinematic mode. I tried looking for a workaround, perhaps recording their looks separately, but the views given in the software are very inaccurate when placed at the high simulation speeds that is run for these videos (Showing Earth to have rapid ice ages while at 50°C, 5th Giant still showing to receive light in 3D while ejected, 2D views dimming to pitch black the further out the camera is zoomed etc.). I also can't show inclination and the orbital views simultaneously, unless I pause it to show it every now and then, but to me at least, that would ruin the flow of the simulation. So I don't think this is realistically possible. I would if I could, but thanks for the ideas anyway.
@@PersonyPerson I’m just asking but I don’t suppose there’s anyway to determine the AU’s of the ones that finally got ejected or the ridiculously looooong orbits? That stuff is interesting:)
That's probably not something US can replicate. Mercury's potential instability in the future is due to a complex interaction with the other terrestrial planets and Jupiter. US is not that good with calculating Mercury's orbit accurately, as in any long-term simulations it incorrectly circularises while the inclination violently precesses. Plus, the timescales required for this scenario really aren't feasible for a US simulation; if Mercury's orbit does indeed become so eccentric as to wander into Venus' orbit in a few billion years, which is only around a 1% chance, it will still take tens or hundreds of millions of simulated years for this to start affecting the rest of the inner Solar System and causing large orbital disruptions. US2 will normally cap out at about 250 years/second simulation speed despite computer hardware with the Solar System.
The hypothetical planet on solar system is planet V 5thgiant 6th giant planet 9 tyche. The inner hypothetical planet: planet V 5th and 6thgiant The outer hypothetical planet planet 9 and tyche.
Technically, there were 11 Planets in the early days of the solar system. Mercury, Venus, Earth, Theia, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Boreas, Planet Nine, Neptune & Uranus. Uranus was the furthest planet from the sun before Jupiter and Saturn ejected the Fifth Giant A.K.A Boreas, sent Neptune all the way to the Kuiper Belt and Planet Nine all the way to the Oort Cloud. As for Theia, it crashed into Earth, and the debris formed a giant ring around Earth which formed Luna. Now, there are 8 planets within the sun’s heliosphere.
They would be perturbed and ejected to varying degrees. It is predicted that the Kuiper Belt was originally several times thicker and contained maybe 30 Pluto-mass dwarf planets, which were all destroyed or ejected aside from Pluto itself (and any other undiscovered dwarf planets in Kuiper) during Neptune's migration. One such binary dwarf planet system is hypothesised to have been captured by Neptune, with the less massive partner being ejected and the more massive partner being captured into a retrograde orbit around the planet. This dwarf planet went on to become the present day moon Triton. While it would be cool to see dwarf planets being flung around everywhere, it would just slow the simulation speed down and reduce the overall accuracy of the scenario.
Mercury: just chillin' Venus: stable Earth: Also stable Mars: Also stable Jupiter: Also stable Saturn: Stable? 5th Giant: Just wanna destroy everything blblblbbll Uranus: chillin' Neptune: IDK 6th Giant: A sad loss indeed Planet V: IDK?
Rocky planets + Planet V: Idle planets that sometimes get ejected 5th and 6th Giants: The giants that cause mischeif Jupiter and Saturn: The strong dudes Uranus and Neptune: The ones that like changing positions
So why does the 5th giant keep ending up in such a radical orbit, looks something like a 15 to 20 thousand yr orbit but it looks like it always comes ‘back’ to the solar system before it gets ejected…what is or was the reason it got ejected??
MY IDEAS FOR NEW CONTENT: Ss means Solar System What if Jupiter was ejected from the ss What if Jupiter was X times bigger (es. 3 Times,4,5 ecc...) What if the ss started with 6 rocky planets or 3 gas giant What if the ss started with 7 gas giant What if Theia never collided with earth (it would eject earth i think but i am not sure) What if Pluto was bigger as Neptune What if Fifth Giant was never ejected by the ss
What if Solar System start as 15 planets 1. Hit collide Bigger Mercury 2.2Mars sized object that collide Venus 3.Theia 4.Planet V Borealis 5.5Th Giants 6.6Giant
Um it could of actually started with 21 planets Vulcan, Mercury, Venus, Nibiru, Earth, Theia, Mars, Borealis, Planet V, Phaeton, Tyche, Jupiter, Saturn, Krypton, Fifthgiant, Sixthgiant, Planet X, Planet 9, Neptune, Planet 10 and Uranus😱👻💀☠️👽
Planet nine : hehe who this things bet Earth: oo Sun: ok im out i need an star :( Planet nine: i can survive lol Sun: WHAT ARE YOU SERIUS PLANET NINE I WILL EXPLODE YOU TOMOROW Planet nine: ahhhhhhhhhhh OOF
request what if solar system started with 5 planets? and tell to me pls or i will cry orbit order uranus neptune jupiter earth mercury happens: uranus will filp tlit in 4.2 billion years ago neptune's dark blue spot almost gets winded in 2003 jupiter red spot fromed in 1540 and rings fromed in 4.44 billion years ago earth temperature will reach 6C mercury will be hot of 42C in 1.78 billion years it will cause greenhouse effect hyptothetichal planets orbit order: thiea 5th giant 6th giant
Is it possible to make a simulation where you get a hot jupiter world developing from the outer system? If so i'd like to see a simulation in which a hot jupiter is added that intentionally migrates extremely close to the sun Also can you upload the file for the early solar system onto the workshop and give a link? Another suggestion if the hot jupiter one is too difficult: Add a super-earth to the solar system in planet V's location.
Next, What if Theia never collided with Earth
@Bryant Maverick bot
@Ridge Roy and bot
I know theia known as 10th planet in beetween earth and mars
@@loser731 OMG, LOSER! SWRIFCKCKSUQJSKCKGBWDJVNXSIXNCNDJDJDDID8QIJVJEHQJXIGILOSER KQJSKXKXDKD
It's impossible
Their close to eachothers orbit
Were gonna have to move
4:55 6TH GIANT IS BREAKING NEW RECORDS!!!!!
the 6th gas giant's orbit is CRAZY
Another interesting simulation. This would suggest that a 6th giant is not compatible with today's configuration, but of course in science we can't draw a conclusion from just one simulation.
I experimented with this and my maximum appears to be 230 years/second. I decided to run the Solar System as it is today for 1 million years, and some... interesting things happened. I derived orbital periods, eccentricities etc. to as much accuracy as I could find on the internet. Over time, most of the planets saw a drop in eccentricity and inclination until it hit some sort of equilibrium, but Uranus and Neptune seem to have unstable orbits. Uranus is becoming increasingly eccentric and is getting closer to Saturn (within around 2 AU as opposed to today's ~10 AU), while Neptune's perihelion _and_ apehelion are increasing. I assume that eventually Uranus will interact with Saturn and Neptune, possibly leading to the ejection of one or both. Of course, I'm aware this isn't accurate to reality and the outer Solar System isn't on the brink of collapse after 4 billion years of apparent stability. Unfortunately US can't fully simulate N-body problems to 100% accuracy, and it can't seem to calculate resonances. However, perhaps we could draw the conclusion that the Ice Giant's orbits are the least stable of the planetary Solar System, and maybe over the timescale of hundreds of millions of years, their orbits are unstable and could have a chance of significantly changing, perhaps so much so that Uranus does interact with Saturn and Neptune in the distant future. By that point though, Earth will have undergone so many changes independent of other planets that the possibility of instability in the outer Solar System leading to Uranus or Neptune entering the inner Solar System is not something we should worry about.
It’s just a “What If” scenario. Would have been cool though.
How long did this take?
Did it ake around 72 hours
Just imagine planet V is thiea just farther away
Could far away stars getting close by the Sun affect the orbits of ice giants?
6th Giant: Hey guys I’m going on vacation! I’ll come back soon!
Hasn’t came in 3.8B Years
*Last Online 3.8B Years Ago*
*6th Giant: died 3.8B years ago*
Remember ur rival J1407B
@@tobygreen6950 DONT
@@zZeimos time to go rage mode I guess
And let’s not forget that in real life, giant 5 ejected itself to stablilise the system. Respect!
I miss 6th and 5th
Planets are not sentient
@@Air-nj9xlTell that to SolarBalls 😂
@@Minionbanana27solarballs is a cartoon
@@TheDaneTV learn to take a joke
Very cool! If you want, make simulation with like 7 or even 8 gas giants
that would make it very unstable.
@@Mbiaal 100
just maybe if all masses are around 6 earths, (mini gas giants) that would work
Now imagine 10 more ice giants.
@@GodzillaJawznah chat that’s crazy
My thought of the sixth giant is it formed behind Neptune and Neptune moving outwards ejecting it following with a encounter with Neptune
4:50 6th Giant Broke The Laws Of Physics
That's because the fifth and sixth giants got ejected😂
@@Blazerwh123 that is correct
NIce video! :)
Suggestion: Do a scenario with the regular solar system, but with an undiscovered exoplanet, Paxtyne. So, Paxtyne is a planet with an atmosphere and only a type of species called Chromobirds. Chromobirds roam around this planet and they are the only creatures that live here, because they can breathe the high levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and they can also breathe the 3% amount of sulfur and 2% of hydrogen sulfide, which makes this planet smell terrible. It has 1 moon, called Prixmite and is estimated to be about the size of Iapetus, Saturn’s moon.
This exoplanet also has liquid methane lakes, which are very cold. This planet can be around -18° C.
So Earth is now Venus
and Venus is now Earth
thats accurate.
Sometimes in the summer, I feel as if I were on Mercury.
This makes me wonder what life would look like there.
@@abxy_real_official_since2020 Despite Mercury being closer to the sun, venus is the hottest planet in the solar system!
Finally somebody who knows that they used to be 6 giants and there wasn’t only five
..bud
the sixth giant didnt exist
only fifth
@@guyplayingjtohI thought the 5th giant was the one that got ejected and the 6th giant was Planet 9
@@guyplayingjtohgoogle “what happened to the 6th gas giant”
The description said it was a hypothetical scenario
Maybe the 5th giant is the 9th planet and hasn’t been ejected
4:18 Maybe 6th giant could be ejected to the far reaches
4:26 Maybe not
4:38 Nevermind.....
5:46 okay it's time for the fifth giant
5:49 yup 6th giant got ejected
6:03 Well maybe the same thing with theia and earth could happen to Uranus and Neptune
7:41 everything looking pretty stable
7:54 nevermind
8:31 NOW everything's looking stable
Next: What if the solar system started with 3 gas giant or What if the ss started with 6 rocky planets
Good idea!
What if history of solar system when
There are 6rocky planets in inner
5 Giants more realistic.
@@bladerbrawlers Mercury, Venus, Earth, Theia, Mars, Planet V
instablaster...
That Is When Jupiter Can't Be A Bitch
5th giant: I will just explore the system with planet V
1 sec later: both planets: bye
You are a legend my man, remember me when you get famous
How about you add "cameras" so that we know what the planets would look like in the simulation at a given moment?
We need a side camera wich shows us inclanation of planets
Universe Sandbox doesn't have the option to have additional views while in cinematic mode. I tried looking for a workaround, perhaps recording their looks separately, but the views given in the software are very inaccurate when placed at the high simulation speeds that is run for these videos (Showing Earth to have rapid ice ages while at 50°C, 5th Giant still showing to receive light in 3D while ejected, 2D views dimming to pitch black the further out the camera is zoomed etc.). I also can't show inclination and the orbital views simultaneously, unless I pause it to show it every now and then, but to me at least, that would ruin the flow of the simulation.
So I don't think this is realistically possible. I would if I could, but thanks for the ideas anyway.
@@PersonyPerson oh ok
@@PersonyPerson I’m just asking but I don’t suppose there’s anyway to determine the AU’s of the ones that finally got ejected or the ridiculously looooong orbits? That stuff is interesting:)
Can you do simulation of next 3 Byrs?
Mercury and inner Planet unstable please
That's probably not something US can replicate. Mercury's potential instability in the future is due to a complex interaction with the other terrestrial planets and Jupiter. US is not that good with calculating Mercury's orbit accurately, as in any long-term simulations it incorrectly circularises while the inclination violently precesses. Plus, the timescales required for this scenario really aren't feasible for a US simulation; if Mercury's orbit does indeed become so eccentric as to wander into Venus' orbit in a few billion years, which is only around a 1% chance, it will still take tens or hundreds of millions of simulated years for this to start affecting the rest of the inner Solar System and causing large orbital disruptions. US2 will normally cap out at about 250 years/second simulation speed despite computer hardware with the Solar System.
KoD, Can you make the solar system with 12 planet., Basically this scenario, but with Theia.
The hypothetical planet on solar system is planet V 5thgiant 6th giant planet 9 tyche. The inner hypothetical planet: planet V 5th and 6thgiant
The outer hypothetical planet planet 9 and tyche.
Technically, there were 11 Planets in the early days of the solar system. Mercury, Venus, Earth, Theia, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Boreas, Planet Nine, Neptune & Uranus. Uranus was the furthest planet from the sun before Jupiter and Saturn ejected the Fifth Giant A.K.A Boreas, sent Neptune all the way to the Kuiper Belt and Planet Nine all the way to the Oort Cloud. As for Theia, it crashed into Earth, and the debris formed a giant ring around Earth which formed Luna. Now, there are 8 planets within the sun’s heliosphere.
5th Giant is still dancing.
So that would mean we could evolve on Venus and ask ourselfs why the Earth become a boiling hell?
can you add some dwarf planets in these simulations? i wanna know what would happen to them with so much elliptic gas giant orbits
They weren’t around when this happened
@@zZeimos You're telling me they just showed up in existence in 10 BC
@@zZeimos Yes they were. They formed at the same time as everything else. If anything there were significantly more around at this time.
They would be perturbed and ejected to varying degrees. It is predicted that the Kuiper Belt was originally several times thicker and contained maybe 30 Pluto-mass dwarf planets, which were all destroyed or ejected aside from Pluto itself (and any other undiscovered dwarf planets in Kuiper) during Neptune's migration. One such binary dwarf planet system is hypothesised to have been captured by Neptune, with the less massive partner being ejected and the more massive partner being captured into a retrograde orbit around the planet. This dwarf planet went on to become the present day moon Triton. While it would be cool to see dwarf planets being flung around everywhere, it would just slow the simulation speed down and reduce the overall accuracy of the scenario.
Next: What if Jupiter was an exoplanet or What if the sun was big and have more planets
why do the planets orbits keep changing and be crazy and how do they get ejected
Whatever happened to Theia?
im your 637th subscriber
The 5th planet is a troublemaker
Saturn and 5th : I WANNA BE IN FRONT OF YOU!
I love how 1:13 starts the Grand Tack Model
Mercury: just chillin'
Venus: stable
Earth: Also stable
Mars: Also stable
Jupiter: Also stable
Saturn: Stable?
5th Giant: Just wanna destroy everything blblblbbll
Uranus: chillin'
Neptune: IDK
6th Giant: A sad loss indeed
Planet V: IDK?
And why uranus and neptune is balanced?
Next.
Why 5th giant is balancing when its between saturn and jupiter?
I want to do these kinds of simulations but idk how :(( how do you do it?
Its called "Universe Sandbox 2" you should bought this in steam, its really fun to play with.
@@hilltain2198 yeah, but how does he speed it up by 500 years?
@@novafal idk maybe he has a beefy computer or something that makes the simulation boosting up the performance?
@@hilltain2198 aight..ty anyways, I'll figure it myself
@@novafal He explained in the comments of another video that his maximum is 230 years/second, and he speeds up the recording during editing.
Happy new year
Perhaps show the orbital plane now and again.
Rocky planets + Planet V: Idle planets that sometimes get ejected
5th and 6th Giants: The giants that cause mischeif
Jupiter and Saturn: The strong dudes
Uranus and Neptune: The ones that like changing positions
What records?
Do you don't think saturn and 5th giant in orbit order
What happen to 5th gaint-
You should show us what planet v looked like
What if the solar system had a super jupiter (7-22jupiter masses?)
So why does the 5th giant keep ending up in such a radical orbit, looks something like a 15 to 20 thousand yr orbit but it looks like it always comes ‘back’ to the solar system before it gets ejected…what is or was the reason it got ejected??
5:05 6th giant tho
5th giant why are you orbit around.
El proximo podrias solo ordenar los planetas inferiores
This is what i've been finding after 4 months
What of 6th Giant was Planet Nine? 😶
Why 5th Giant orbit so...
Now try that but fifth and sixth giants are farther out and planet V is mars sized
Game?
@baby Jupiter ok
Universe, sandbox😊
@@titanicbigship oh I’m on iPad and phone
Next: what if all stars explode?
What if we can live on Mars?
What about a 12 planet simulation, which includes Theia, Planet V, 5th Giant and 6th Giant just for fun?
MY IDEAS FOR NEW CONTENT:
Ss means Solar System
What if Jupiter was ejected from the ss
What if Jupiter was X times bigger (es. 3 Times,4,5 ecc...)
What if the ss started with 6 rocky planets or 3 gas giant
What if the ss started with 7 gas giant
What if Theia never collided with earth (it would eject earth i think but i am not sure)
What if Pluto was bigger as Neptune
What if Fifth Giant was never ejected by the ss
Why did you edit that comment
Fun fact: the fithd giant has rings
You forgot Pluto,thea,& Vulcan
I wonder why in this simulations planets don't clash...
Poor 5th giant and 6th giant going so crazy because the gravity of the other planet keep pulling him
If the solar system started if 6 extra giants and 2 extra rocky planets and planet 10 dwarf planet
Im new subcriber
This video is iteresting
7:07 even knowing im so fking late but earth and venus swaps positions
what progam do you use?
Universe Sandbox 2 its on steam
how about mobile
It isn't on mobile
In the order of the Sun: Vulcano, Venus, Earth, Theia, Mars, Mercury, Vesta, Ceres, Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus, 5th Giant and Pluto
What if Solar System start as 15 planets
1. Hit collide Bigger Mercury
2.2Mars sized object that collide Venus
3.Theia
4.Planet V Borealis
5.5Th Giants
6.6Giant
Where tf is pluto
6th giant was fighting for he's life 💀💀💀💀
Wait, isn't Planet V Suppose to be Theia?
Not really
Planet V is a completely different object to Theia. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_V and other sources in the description for more details.
@@PersonyPerson Ok now I understand
Where theia
Um it could of actually started with 21 planets Vulcan, Mercury, Venus, Nibiru, Earth, Theia, Mars, Borealis, Planet V, Phaeton, Tyche, Jupiter, Saturn, Krypton, Fifthgiant, Sixthgiant, Planet X, Planet 9, Neptune, Planet 10 and Uranus😱👻💀☠️👽
Actually, i know 4 extra planets: planet 9, planet 10, 5th giant, and even pluto! (before 2006)
Theia is a planet that collide with earth in beetween earth and mars
What keeps happening to 6th giant god it turns ded planet
Wow subrang ganda
That's why if you were a planet, you shouldn't share orbits with another planet
I got your answer! Planet V will be Theia and Planet 9 and Planet X!
Planet nine : hehe who this things bet Earth: oo Sun: ok im out i need an star :( Planet nine: i can survive lol Sun: WHAT ARE YOU SERIUS PLANET NINE I WILL EXPLODE YOU TOMOROW Planet nine: ahhhhhhhhhhh OOF
isnt planet v theia
request what if solar system started with 5 planets? and tell to me pls or i will cry
orbit order
uranus
neptune
jupiter
earth
mercury
happens:
uranus will filp tlit in 4.2 billion years ago
neptune's dark blue spot almost gets winded in 2003
jupiter red spot fromed in 1540 and rings fromed in 4.44 billion years ago
earth temperature will reach 6C
mercury will be hot of 42C in 1.78 billion years it will cause greenhouse effect
hyptothetichal planets orbit order:
thiea
5th giant
6th giant
What the NUKE happened 6th giant orbit
Is it possible to make a simulation where you get a hot jupiter world developing from the outer system?
If so i'd like to see a simulation in which a hot jupiter is added that intentionally migrates extremely close to the sun
Also can you upload the file for the early solar system onto the workshop and give a link?
Another suggestion if the hot jupiter one is too difficult: Add a super-earth to the solar system in planet V's location.
fifth giant and saturn dancing
tf is 5th giant doing
5th Giant starts to collide 6th Giant 💀💀
The solar system even started with 14 planets
The solar system already has 10 planets cant yall stop with the more planets stuff
5 giant is crazy😂
Planet V:🗿
5th giant stealing orbit
Theia: Where am I?
the solar system is in chaos xd
If thiea never collided with Earth we would never have a moon
7:07 Buh-bye life on Earth.
It's the past not today
What if the Solar System started with 14 Planets????
this is i ask for
would it be too hard to keep track? for example in the last video he had to zoom out and zoom in repeatedly
@@kimmalyncleaveway2907 I agree maybe add 2 cameras
if pluto was a planet
purple sus *purple gets ejected from the solar system*
Jupiter: 🗿
5th giant: 😭 ↙️⏩️↗️⬅️⬇️⬅️↘️↙️⏫️↪️◀️↪️🔄↪️🔄🔃⏺️↙️◀️↖️⬆️
6th giant: 😭 ⤵️↗️↖️⬅️↙️➡️↩️↪️🔄🔃➡️↘️⬅️➡️
irk
Venus become Earth and Earth become Venus.
Oh gawd
Theia left the chat