How a Planet with Seven Suns Proves the Universe Prefers Order

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  • @thekito4623
    @thekito4623 4 роки тому +1219

    Why does the beginning sound like an ad for our solar system?...
    "In OUR solar system we like to keep things simple. :)"

    • @solarnaut
      @solarnaut 4 роки тому +77

      " choosy mothers choose a one star solar system " B-)

    • @TalonBrush
      @TalonBrush 4 роки тому +67

      Buy Simple - Buy Sol!

    • @xXxJSCOTTxXx
      @xXxJSCOTTxXx 4 роки тому +54

      Child: "Mom can we get 7 star solar system?"
      Mom: "we have solar system at home..."
      Solar system at home: generic brand, 1 star...

    • @juliamorales6620
      @juliamorales6620 4 роки тому +4

      Interesting video! Wish all of them were like this.

    • @JustBigL66
      @JustBigL66 4 роки тому +8

      actually most star systems are binary. the nearest neighbouring star system is even a triple star system consisting of alpha centauri, beta centauri and proxima centauri which is the nearest star to our sun. its estimated that 50-85% of stars actually have a companion

  • @lamegoldfish6736
    @lamegoldfish6736 4 роки тому +366

    It looks like birthdays would be a problem.

    • @onax0013
      @onax0013 3 роки тому +2

      xD

    • @dmaurille
      @dmaurille 3 роки тому +1

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @stereoptr
      @stereoptr 3 роки тому +47

      - How old are you?
      - It's complicated

    • @MappingRobloxAnimations
      @MappingRobloxAnimations 3 роки тому +6

      @@duckface81 The year should be the orbit around the barycenter, duh!

    • @elfgem5527
      @elfgem5527 3 роки тому +4

      @@MappingRobloxAnimations people on 7-star-orbiting planet would live and die for multiple generation without reach age 1 xD

  • @jakethomason5495
    @jakethomason5495 4 роки тому +6

    You have the best channel for amateur astronomers. Hands down.

  • @garywait3231
    @garywait3231 10 місяців тому +1

    Wishing you a happy Thanksgiving, too. I've been a subscriber from your very first video, and consistently find them both interestingly presented and informative. Thanks !!

  • @RCSVirginia
    @RCSVirginia 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you for this video. I have wondered about this myself, and you have answered some of the questions that I had when I thought about this matter.

  • @yanis905
    @yanis905 3 роки тому +5

    Absolutely brilliant! I love these visual representations and always wished to understand what multi-star systems would look like on each planet.

  • @rauljrlara9994
    @rauljrlara9994 4 роки тому +6

    The whole video is just satisfying. Its 9.10 am . Woke up from a god nap waking up to some astrum as always . Btw cant wait for the new rover to possibly land next year. The content from here should be good if u post about it

  • @alexmontgomery255
    @alexmontgomery255 4 роки тому +7

    I know this is off topic but I was trying to imagine what our galaxy would look like from a planet orbiting a rogue star at say 100,000 light years from the galactic plane.

    • @adm0iii
      @adm0iii 4 роки тому +2

      These exist. There are planets in the Magellanic cloud dwarf galaxies that orbit the Milky Way. Instead of seeing the Milky Way as we do -- only edge-on from the inside with much of it blocked by interstellar dust and gas -- they'd see the it as a full spiral covering half their night sky.

    • @beaudanner
      @beaudanner 4 роки тому

      I'd very much like to see a representation of that. :)
      I keep trying to find what Pluto's largest moon, Charon, looks like from the surface of Pluto. It's so close that apparently it would be quite stunning

    • @James-le8gd
      @James-le8gd 4 роки тому

      I wonder if it is possible for planet to have a permanent solar eclipse. If the moon of a planet is the right size and has the right orbit can it just perpetually block out the star?

    • @universe1879
      @universe1879 4 роки тому

      Well you can, as long as the moon’s orbital period is as long as the planet’s orbital period

    • @beaudanner
      @beaudanner 4 роки тому +1

      @@James-le8gd Hm, not in my "back of the napkin" thinking. That would require a star to be orbiting a planet. And then that star happens to be the same orbital period of the moon that is blocking its light. Which is of course an orbit that is not possible.
      Now, a moon with an atmosphere that is in eclipse might be something incredibly stunning.

  • @JavenarchX
    @JavenarchX 4 роки тому +1

    Imagine having two super fast rotating suns...that would look so amazing

  • @Shaden0040
    @Shaden0040 4 роки тому +2

    Very carefully.

  • @Andrepradiktha
    @Andrepradiktha 4 роки тому +1

    Can you emulate 3:14 into Sol, Proxima Cen., Alpha Cen. A, Alpha Cen. B?

    • @Релёкс84
      @Релёкс84 4 роки тому

      The Sun is not gravitationally bound to the alpha cen system.

  • @babinag6278
    @babinag6278 2 роки тому +1

    bruh that's awesome

  • @megabeam
    @megabeam 4 роки тому +4

    In every single binary system the planets moons or stars that are less massive than the binary system(orbital parents) will eventually get kicked out of the sysyem or crash into the body. Every single time.

    • @MrHappyHour
      @MrHappyHour 4 роки тому +1

      I don't think that would be true. Possible yes, but not that likely. If it was, then it would suggest that moons would always eventually leave their planets due to other planets or the host star, and that's not the case.

    • @megabeam
      @megabeam 4 роки тому +1

      @@MrHappyHour But they do, it's impossible for a moon to orbit a binary system for a consistent time

    • @maryann2628
      @maryann2628 2 роки тому +1

      @@megabeam any orbits that have 3 objects or more are always like that
      so no orbit is stable forever and there will be always a single planet orbit that will go unstable

  • @MooseMan
    @MooseMan 2 роки тому

    I was under the impression that binary star systems are much more common than solo stars. So I find it odd to say a thing like "as is the case for most planetary systems found in the universe". I guess he key word here is "found" as in what we have observed so far. but that does not include the entire universe now does it?

  • @kennethwood2193
    @kennethwood2193 8 місяців тому

    Jupiter failed to become a sun. Without Jupiter, it's impossible for earth to have life. On that thought, perhaps our search for life out there may be a lot narrowed down if we focus on the brightest stars.

  • @jacoblewis1242
    @jacoblewis1242 2 роки тому

    Some stars like are sun is second generation. These could be second generation stars from two giant stars that went super nova like Beatle juice.

  • @vpheonix
    @vpheonix 3 роки тому +444

    Have you read the short story "Night Fall" by Isaac Azimov? This was a story about people living on a planet in a system with multiple stars that never saw darkness. One day there was an eclipse and not only did they see darkness for the first time, but they also saw the dark sky filled with the stars outside their own system, and their civilization collapsed.

    • @alaindubois1505
      @alaindubois1505 2 роки тому +33

      I thought you were going to say the civilisation then expanded out into space, instead of collapsed. If I read 'Night Fall', it was over 45 years ago, and I don't remember this one. [I'd forgotten how many sci-fi I was reading back then.]

    • @ChristianJiang
      @ChristianJiang 2 роки тому

      It’s coz, in the story, the inhabitants of this planet have evolved to be afraid of the dark (they do have darkness in caves etc.), and this eclipse, which occurs every 2,000 years and lasts several hours, is enough to end the civilisation every 2,000 years

    • @davejones9469
      @davejones9469 2 роки тому +20

      @@alaindubois1505 Unfortunately, that's probably how it would go. The good sci fi writers were realistically bleak lol. That's my one word description of reality right there: bleak.

    • @neonfroot
      @neonfroot Рік тому +27

      @@davejones9469
      Reality is more surreal than bleak.

    • @davejones9469
      @davejones9469 Рік тому +6

      @@neonfroot Why can't it be both? I escape the bleak on the ground by gazing up to the surreal. Keeps me sane...plus, I've done a ton of mushrooms while out in the Canadian wilderness, so I can see the surreal at my feet for sure lol. I just can't get away like I used to, so I have to settle with what I can get. Nature is my surreal realm on earth, and I'm stuck in a city. No time or resources to get away.

  • @gaara10122
    @gaara10122 4 роки тому +578

    Its crazy, my mom bought me a single picture book of our galaxy when i was 5, and it had such an impact on me that now 19 years later I find myself really interested in space. It’s the little things in life that you take for granted that mean so much to you :D

    • @onometre
      @onometre 4 роки тому +18

      I remember very little of early elementary school, but the day I learned about the planets in first grade is still burned into my mind. 19 years later and I still feel that same awe

    • @goodpeopleoftheworldunite
      @goodpeopleoftheworldunite 4 роки тому +5

      Paradoxically, the universe is big.
      Very, very big, as it says in the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy.

    • @Eisnschwein
      @Eisnschwein 3 роки тому +11

      For me ,it was my father that took me stargazing in the summer when I was 4 years old.
      Since then, space had really grown on me
      And I still remember those nights so vividly.
      The most prominent memory I have ,is how my father showed me where Mars was.
      And those Videos give me the same feeling that I had those nights.

    • @basicallystevenuniverse511
      @basicallystevenuniverse511 3 роки тому +3

      When I was really little I had a book about the solar system. Similar story, except I’m younger than you.

    • @jherodfaulkner8491
      @jherodfaulkner8491 3 роки тому +4

      Same for me. Mom bought me a outer space facts book for kids I was like “Ayooooo!”

  • @TheGreatMunky
    @TheGreatMunky 4 роки тому +629

    This reminds me of the Isaac Asimov story Nightfall where a planet has 6 suns and is in constant daylight and how people react to seeing true dark when they live their whole lives in constant light.

    • @tchy7246
      @tchy7246 4 роки тому +38

      I love that book

    • @TheGreatMunky
      @TheGreatMunky 4 роки тому +45

      @@tchy7246 Me too. It'd be cool to see a good movie adaptation of it. Heck, it'd be cool to see good movie adaptations of any of Asimov's stuff. So far all we've gotten has been Bicentennial Man. I, Robot doesn't count, even though it was a good stand-alone movie, it wasn't an adaptation.

    • @vkobevk
      @vkobevk 4 роки тому +4

      @@tchy7246 but the book is too short 😋

    • @Drewengtheway
      @Drewengtheway 4 роки тому +6

      red it.. grim as fuck but well..true

    • @TheGreatMunky
      @TheGreatMunky 4 роки тому +10

      @@Drewengtheway Yeah, it's a pretty dark story at parts.

  • @SpiffingNZ
    @SpiffingNZ 4 роки тому +962

    A planet where there is 7 suns, also known as Florida.

    • @MrCubFan415
      @MrCubFan415 4 роки тому +29

      SiJamz NZ But Phoenix has at least 13 Suns at any given time 🏀 :P

    • @ynntari2775
      @ynntari2775 4 роки тому +73

      Countries in the equator: That's cute

    • @peterirungu4083
      @peterirungu4083 4 роки тому +31

      Also known as the earths butthole

    • @warsameadam5572
      @warsameadam5572 4 роки тому +1

      @@ynntari2775 🇸🇴

    • @KevyB.
      @KevyB. 3 роки тому +2

      What?!!!

  • @anonymousstout4759
    @anonymousstout4759 4 роки тому +817

    Imagine living in a planet that has 6 stars and 9 moons, the view of the sky must be really nice

    • @flatmarssociety4614
      @flatmarssociety4614 3 роки тому +66

      Yeah, I agree. It might not be as spectacular as you might think, but better than the sky on Earth.

    • @godsdemon7441
      @godsdemon7441 3 роки тому +109

      Would you ever have a "night" time?

    • @lukemathers7460
      @lukemathers7460 3 роки тому +233

      Cool, but if that was the case, then someone would comment: "Imagine living in a planet that has 1 star/sun and 1 moon, the view of sky must be really nice, we can finally look at distant stars without getting blinded by 6 stars and 9 moons" LOL

    • @epicbottleflips5032
      @epicbottleflips5032 3 роки тому +15

      Yeah it would be *nice*

    • @taintwasher3703
      @taintwasher3703 3 роки тому +21

      Y'all got wooooshed

  • @JamieBainbridge
    @JamieBainbridge 4 роки тому +455

    "Are we out of touch? No, it's the universe that is wrong."

    • @vasudevraghav2109
      @vasudevraghav2109 4 роки тому +8

      What a stupid thing to say.
      The person originally coming up with this idea is nothing but a control freak. If something is not upto his/her idea, he/she disregards and declare it wrong. It is the person's limitations to understand the universe which is definitely wrong.

    • @drewritospresents7176
      @drewritospresents7176 4 роки тому +54

      @@vasudevraghav2109 r/wooooosh

    • @cormchm2853
      @cormchm2853 4 роки тому +8

      Hi. I also do not understand the reference, but would be interested to find out, if you have time to explain please, as given the quotation marks, i sense that this is not your own idea and that there is a degree of ridicule therein.. and I am always interested in merited ridicule :) Good luck and hope you may find time to explain.

    • @vasekhor1
      @vasekhor1 4 роки тому +33

      @@cormchm2853 it's The Simpsons reference where principle Skinners asks "Am I so out of touch? No it's the children who are wrong." S05E20

    • @JamieBainbridge
      @JamieBainbridge 4 роки тому +9

      Hahaha, thanks Vaclav 👍

  • @michaelpaulson2543
    @michaelpaulson2543 4 роки тому +331

    The planet’s name should be “Father Abraham” so we can talk about how “Father Abraham had seven suns”

    • @MrHappyHour
      @MrHappyHour 4 роки тому +9

      Hahaha you beat me to it. Nice!

    • @d-lo811
      @d-lo811 4 роки тому +8

      The world doesn't revolve around Earth okay 🙄 no one else outside of Earth knows who Abraham is, they can name their planet whatever they wanna call it!

    • @shuushirakawa
      @shuushirakawa 4 роки тому +51

      @@d-lo811 come on, have a sense of humor

    • @mike7652
      @mike7652 4 роки тому +32

      @@d-lo811 English speaking countries don't call Germany Deutschland. Japanese people don't call their homeland Japan. Damn....you must be hella fun at parties. 🙄

    • @evedelve
      @evedelve 4 роки тому

      Very good

  • @Particulator
    @Particulator 4 роки тому +147

    *In response to what you say @**9:38*
    I'm not watching Astrum because I have little time, I'm watching because those vids are phenomenal, of the highest quality.
    Thank you Alex.

    • @varana
      @varana 4 роки тому +7

      That's the standard intro for that sponsor. I wouldn't necessarily assume Alex actually thinking that.

    • @traekas7228
      @traekas7228 2 роки тому

      Wow. What a bummer for the characters in that book! I enjoy 😢reading/watching Science Fiction.

  • @temesgenmehari1319
    @temesgenmehari1319 6 місяців тому +7

    7 body problem

  • @LemonLadyRecords
    @LemonLadyRecords 4 роки тому +36

    With 7 suns, a planet would enjoy 7x the stellar wind and CMEs, or worse if any red dwarfs or LBVs, even a binary could be difficult depending on the orbits and star types. So might be difficult for life to appreciate the view! But an enjoyable thought!

  • @79981086
    @79981086 4 роки тому +145

    How fascinating watching a multi-star system born is like the theory of chaos, starting with a lot of chaos until the system itself find a natural order, it can be said that is a chaordic system, and many systems at the natural level behaved like that.

    • @Jordan-Ramses
      @Jordan-Ramses 4 роки тому +9

      I agree that it's interesting. But i don't like the way it's phrased in the video. There is no system of order. We're seeing stars that are super old. All the unstable configurations aren't around. It's a sort of survivor bias.

    • @Jordan-Ramses
      @Jordan-Ramses 4 роки тому +3

      @Dylan sky - Obviously. But it doesn't matter. We see all these systems in stable, repeating patterns because all the unstable ones no longer exist. Order is an illusion.

    • @loog8621
      @loog8621 4 роки тому +1

      Scott Humphreys there is a reason all the unstable ones no longer exist

    • @w.a.r4623
      @w.a.r4623 4 роки тому +2

      loogaan koolsen it’s because order took over. How can order not exist when it’s right in front of you dude. Its all over the damn universes man

    • @skilz8098
      @skilz8098 3 роки тому

      I believe that Ecclesiastes Chapter 1 explains it best!

  • @apatheticdeity6030
    @apatheticdeity6030 4 роки тому +350

    Makes me wonder if there could be a planet trapped between two stars orbiting around the planet.

    • @Релёкс84
      @Релёкс84 4 роки тому +97

      That would be way too unstable to exist, but you could have a planet orbiting close to a faint star which is itself orbiting a much brighter star such that they are comparable in brightness in the planet's sky: that would cause the planet to alternate between a double sun and a period of eternal day with the stars on opposite sides.

    • @adm0iii
      @adm0iii 4 роки тому +120

      In _theory,_ a planet could exist motionless at the barycenter of two stars orbiting each other, so yes.

    • @apatheticdeity6030
      @apatheticdeity6030 4 роки тому +39

      @@adm0iii In theory... I doubt in practice, but it would be really cool.

    • @drgnsoul
      @drgnsoul 4 роки тому +41

      @@apatheticdeity6030 Humans have been proven wrong by the universe on more than one occasion. All we need is wait for that day to come again :)

    • @defies4626
      @defies4626 4 роки тому +32

      Theoretically? Yes. In practice almost certainly not. Not impossible, but so improbable that we're unlikely to find one any time in the near future. It would be... Rather unnatural.

  • @kkmardigrce
    @kkmardigrce 4 роки тому +300

    Play Elite: Dangerous and you'll see all of these examples "in reality". :D

    • @PuddleStew
      @PuddleStew 4 роки тому +32

      I saw two brown dwarfs orbiting each other in close proximity while they were orbiting a neutron star on approach one time and I was completely in awe. Had to come here to learn more!

    • @stevenborgogna
      @stevenborgogna 3 роки тому +17

      Yeah it's a high fidelity replication of the Milky Way that you can fly through.

    • @daviniarobbins9298
      @daviniarobbins9298 3 роки тому +9

      Did that 30 years ago with Frontier Elite(I spent months on end playing that game back in the day). Amazing what you can cram on one single 1.4mb floppy disk.

    • @MrBishop077
      @MrBishop077 3 роки тому

      @@daviniarobbins9298 ye played forever on 'First Encounters' loved that game.

    • @daviniarobbins9298
      @daviniarobbins9298 3 роки тому +1

      @@MrBishop077 There is a fan version of that game with improved graphics available to download or there was.

  • @senantiasa
    @senantiasa 4 роки тому +14

    Alien A: Ugh, it's so hot. Sun F is so close to us. I hope I pass out soon, because I don't want to wait for sun B and C to set...
    Alien B: *Sigh Yeah... You know, I've always wondered what's it like to live in a single-star system. It must be nice and cool.
    Alien A: What?! You mean live in a planet where there's only one sun???
    Alien B: Yeah.. Wouldn't that be awesome?:)
    Alien A: No..! If that sun sets, then we wouldn't be able to see anything and we could trip into a hole and die or fall off a cliff..
    Alien B: We could just stay still and not move until the sun rises again.
    Alien A: And if there are so few suns, how would we pass out from the heat? If we can't pass out, then we can't rest. And if we can't rest, then we can eventually die.
    Alien B: Well, maybe the aliens in that planet have evolved mechanisms to pass out with just only one sun... or even better, pass out when the sun is not around, when they can't see anything...
    Alien A: Pass out in the dark?? That's absurd! You and your theories...

  • @skyrien
    @skyrien 4 роки тому +47

    Really interesting configurations beyond 2 stars! Makes me wonder if there are any long-term stable triple star configurations on a single tier. Are there any known examples, even if perhaps chaotically unstable?

    • @gawkthimm6030
      @gawkthimm6030 4 роки тому +4

      the most obvious to me would be a large binary pair in a stable orbit, with a close in red dwarf that orbits both closely, outside of which could orbit a theoretical habitable planet. where the light would slieghtly redshift as the red dwarf passed infront of the more brighter pair

    • @jorgepeterbarton
      @jorgepeterbarton 2 роки тому +1

      Castor in Gemini is 6

    • @dumiicris2694
      @dumiicris2694 2 роки тому +1

      hes talking about theoretical star systems because they have most chances for stable orbits

    • @politicallycorrectredskin796
      @politicallycorrectredskin796 2 роки тому +4

      Remember that this is scaled up a bit from a planetary scale.Close orbits of more than two stars is probably less stable, and therefore much rarer. And long orbits are so long that it's basically an extra star from our perspective. Like Proxima. It is orbiting the two other stars there, but about 0.2 light years away from them. If you're on a planet orbiting Proxima you'd just have two bright stars in the night sky, not two additional suns. And if you were orbiting the other two or one of the other two, you wouldn't even be able to see Proxima without a telescope. They are barely any closer to it than we are here and very faint.

    • @dumiicris2694
      @dumiicris2694 2 роки тому

      @@politicallycorrectredskin796 its stable or not (milion years orbit at least should be considered stable :) ? the truth is no orbit is stable in the way we think) ure thinking i beleve 2 stars twice the chance something goes wrong

  • @ivankehayov
    @ivankehayov 4 роки тому +71

    Hi there! I'm a huge fan since recently. Love your format. I would love if you can make a video about ROGUE PLANETS. Thanks for what you do!

    • @astrumspace
      @astrumspace  4 роки тому +35

      Good idea! I'll add it to the list

    • @ivankehayov
      @ivankehayov 4 роки тому +3

      Thank you sooo much! 😍😄😄

    • @Billy-eo8vk
      @Billy-eo8vk 4 роки тому +4

      @Aboubakr Hollanda Exoplanets are planets that revolve around other stars outside our solar system. Rogue planets are Exoplanets that broke loose of their orbit around other star systems and are freely floating outside of a solar system. 🤔

    • @TheZoneTakesYou
      @TheZoneTakesYou 4 роки тому +4

      Good request, bro

  • @abhijitdhar5861
    @abhijitdhar5861 4 роки тому +103

    The most awaited topic to be heard from Astrum

  • @DrumToTheBassWoop
    @DrumToTheBassWoop 4 роки тому +9

    *planet exists*
    Family of 7 suns: “awww, he’s adorable, welcome to the family” 😌

  • @ImGonnaShout2000
    @ImGonnaShout2000 4 роки тому +53

    I'd like to see a seventh sun of a seventh sun

    • @carlosmaldonado5411
      @carlosmaldonado5411 4 роки тому +1

      Believe it or not, this kind of star actually exists!

    • @kaylariddell007
      @kaylariddell007 3 роки тому +1

      just watched that movie lol

    • @David-qs7yv
      @David-qs7yv 3 роки тому +1

      I'd prefer to see the eighth sun of an eighth sun. Truly solcerous.

  • @GodWorksOut
    @GodWorksOut 4 роки тому +30

    Imagine a permanently lit planet from 3 or more stars.

    • @apatheticdeity6030
      @apatheticdeity6030 4 роки тому +3

      Hawt
      Very Hawt

    • @RonaldMcPaul
      @RonaldMcPaul 4 роки тому +1

      That would be litty

    • @MichaelSHartman
      @MichaelSHartman 4 роки тому +3

      If it had intelligent life, the effect on evolution, vocabulary, and culture. What determines day and night. Is there fear, or celebration upon alignment? Look how our astrology, and eclipses have affected us.

    • @rmatt24
      @rmatt24 4 роки тому +2

      Namek??😯😲

    • @dexter111344
      @dexter111344 4 роки тому

      Namek is seriously Hell.

  • @ChrisDIYerOklahoma
    @ChrisDIYerOklahoma 4 роки тому +2

    Astrum videos and watching Rick and Morty on Adult Swim makes me feel good about everything.

  • @mikeyd946
    @mikeyd946 4 роки тому +17

    I totally get it. It’s funny when a subject is explained clearly it actually becomes interesting. I never knew those stars mentioned were actually binary stars☀️

  • @kmuturi238
    @kmuturi238 4 роки тому +20

    Alex always seems to know the very subjects that I wish to know about. Thanks for always providing us with quality and informative videos, it's not often one finds such an awesome channel on UA-cam 💙

  • @theartoframos
    @theartoframos 3 роки тому +8

    OMG! I had no idea that they can get so crazy. I have to say this had the best visuals that I've seen! It really helped explain everything! Thanks

  • @MichaelSHartman
    @MichaelSHartman 4 роки тому +30

    Well done, a rarely covered subject interestingly explained.

  • @Oveyz
    @Oveyz 4 роки тому +27

    Finally!! been wanting this topic! Thanks a lot as usual Alex

  • @vitriolicAmaranth
    @vitriolicAmaranth 4 роки тому +5

    I was gonna add something I knew from studying this on my own before finishing the video because it seemed like you were wrapping up but then you addressed most of it. Only other thing is that iirc it's statistically more likely for the few planets that ARE found in binary systems to be in the system's habitable zone because in most systems that would be within the much narrower range in which a planet could actually maintain a stable orbit to begin with. However, that doesn't necessarily apply to larger multiple star systems, which are far rarer to begin with due to the three-body problem.

  • @DrMackSplackem
    @DrMackSplackem 4 роки тому +53

    I can't even express how awesome this video is. This answers a lot of questions I had, and the hierarchical stellar diagrams are utterly new to me.

  • @loenigma69
    @loenigma69 4 роки тому +11

    Very clear, concise, and easy to follow! Thank you!

  • @adm0iii
    @adm0iii 4 роки тому +30

    There are many other types of possible orbits that aren't ellipses, such as ones that shift from one barycenter to another. These can be stable if the planet has a resonance with both barycenters, such as two orbits around the first, followed by three around the second, then back to two around the first again, and so on. There's also degenerate orbits, where the planet sits motionless at a barycenter of two stars, or even weirder, oscillates up and down along a line perpendicular to the stellar plane at that barycenter.
    Depending on models used for star system formation, stable non-elliptical orbits are somewhere between vary rare to virtually impossible. But in the vast multitude of star systems, there's probably a few of these out there.

    • @Dragrath1
      @Dragrath1 4 роки тому +1

      The question though is stable for how long with time unusual orbits are far more likely to be disrupted as they depend on a number of special circumstances like resonances to be maintained. He also pointed out that more massive stars have a higher rate of occurring in multistar systems ranging from virtually all O and B stars to less than a quarter of M dwarfs so statistically that is likely to skew things a bit.

    • @rockomax2732
      @rockomax2732 4 роки тому

      Ah yes. The three body problem

  • @mikecurtin9831
    @mikecurtin9831 4 роки тому +28

    Glad you're feeling better. Thumbs up to crush a troll.

  • @froogletanimations1086
    @froogletanimations1086 3 роки тому +11

    “The planet with seven suns”
    Ancient China: “those are rookie numbers you gotta bump those up”

  • @fahmirezaalgifari6320
    @fahmirezaalgifari6320 4 роки тому +7

    As always, I love your videos, so relaxing and enjoyable.. (meanwhile my brain gonna blow 😂😂, because my brain is low-level system)

  • @markanderson1088
    @markanderson1088 4 роки тому +11

    Who are you? And what am I watching? And what are we exploring together?! You never told me in the beginning!!!

    • @astrumspace
      @astrumspace  4 роки тому +10

      This made me laugh 😁

    • @markanderson1088
      @markanderson1088 4 роки тому +4

      Astrum hahaha always glad to give someone a giggle! Thanks for what you do Alex! You have one of the best channels on UA-cam.

    • @malcolmhardwick4258
      @malcolmhardwick4258 4 роки тому +2

      @@markanderson1088 True !

  • @cyrilio
    @cyrilio 4 роки тому +2

    How many stars orbit Sagittarius * ?

    • @adm0iii
      @adm0iii 4 роки тому

      Technically, all the stars in the galaxy.

  • @dwightalexander2648
    @dwightalexander2648 4 роки тому +18

    @Astrum I'm really curious, can multi-star systems have goldilocks zone, and will it support habitable exoplanets? And if so, will it have a forever day cycle, if per se both its star has the same luminosity?

    • @tumu_bandit
      @tumu_bandit 4 роки тому +5

      For general purposes you can think of the multiple stars as a single star. If we are in a planet that's inside the Goldilocks zone then it wouldn't be so much different due to the long distance between any habitable planets and the barycentre.
      But yeah if they are smaller stars then there's a case of having perpetual day (even in case when the planet is not tidal locked) or atleast close to it.

    • @iamdmc
      @iamdmc 4 роки тому

      ​@@tumu_bandit While a binary star system may have two stars that orbit each other (or a point where their gravities balance), there is little reason to expect that the orbit of their exoplanets would be stable as the gravity they experience increases and decreases
      Add a third star to the mix, and it's likelier that the orbits become unstable

    • @adm0iii
      @adm0iii 4 роки тому +1

      If the stars orbit very close to each other, or very far from each other (or some of each), then the system is just about as likely to have a Goldilocks zone as a single-star system; the pair of close stars effectively act as a single star for determining the zone, and any very far stars have negligible influence on the zone.
      But for the same reasons, such systems wouldn't have much effect on day/night cycles. A close pair of stars would rise and set within an hour of each other, and the far stars wouldn't be bright enough to turn night into day, similar to the way our Full Moon just makes it a bit less dark.
      So systems with Goldilocks zones tend to have day/night cycles, and vice versa. But there's bound to be a few exceptions.
      Note that if a planet is tidally locked to a star (or close pair of stars), it will have one side in permanent day and the other in permanent night.

    • @Релёкс84
      @Релёкс84 4 роки тому

      @@iamdmc Planets can still have stable orbits if they are the right distance from their parent star(s) and the other star(s), just like the Moon manages to orbit the Earth despite the Sun and other planets. However what tumu meant to say is that these stable orbit areas means planet won't be 'inbetween' to suns and will rather orbit a single element which effectively acts as a single sun.

    • @dwightalexander2648
      @dwightalexander2648 4 роки тому

      Thanks to y'all for clearing it up

  • @Vienna3080
    @Vienna3080 4 роки тому +8

    I wonder if life could form on a planet with 7 suns and multiple moons

    • @rmatt24
      @rmatt24 4 роки тому +2

      Imagine solar flares from every direction!! Wow!😵🤯

    • @sebathadah1559
      @sebathadah1559 4 роки тому +2

      With God anything is possible.

    • @maryann2628
      @maryann2628 2 роки тому +1

      nearly unlikely but its possible.

  • @jameszeng2666
    @jameszeng2666 4 роки тому +31

    You know, the whole galaxy is a huge multi-star system

    • @DaxMarko
      @DaxMarko 4 роки тому +2

      I don't think supermassive black hole can be considered as a "star", to call galaxies star systems.

    • @covodex516
      @covodex516 4 роки тому +3

      if you apply that logic: since gravity has no range limit, technically the whole universe is an even bigger multi-star system.

    • @sunstorm4436
      @sunstorm4436 4 роки тому

      DaxMarko - The black hole at the center of the galaxy is actually called “Sagittarius A Star” (which is a pretty cool name btw)...
      Semantics.

    • @varvarith3090
      @varvarith3090 4 роки тому

      @@DaxMarko Before the term "Black hole" were popular they used to call them "Black stars".

    • @maryann2628
      @maryann2628 2 роки тому

      @@covodex516 its true but the universe is expanding so the galaxy range is a few billion light years

  • @RationallySkeptical
    @RationallySkeptical 4 роки тому +2

    0:10 Wow, you get a HUGE fact wrong within the first 15 seconds of the video! Most star systems are binary, NOT single star systems!!!!! You specifically say that most star systems are single star systems and this is demonstrably FALSE. The most common configuration is BINARY. How is no one else noticing this?!?!?

    • @daos3300
      @daos3300 3 роки тому

      @RationallySkeptical it's not really wrong since it's not a fact - this subject is constantly being re-evaluated as more data is gathered, just depends where you get your info from. and slow down with the yelling and interrobangs.

    • @scrible1073
      @scrible1073 29 днів тому

      Idk much this is my answer to this. Most Stars Are Binary but some are not, like our own star system, its a single star which is called a Solitary Star system. Our star is baisically an oddball of the bunch, so there is a chance that other star systems are Solitary star systems.

  • @43615
    @43615 4 роки тому +7

    diagrams like that are also used in elite dangerous, which is really neat

    • @TalonBrush
      @TalonBrush 4 роки тому +3

      At least he didn't get interdicted in the middle of the video and got pulled towards a star.

  • @robertsolimanm7031
    @robertsolimanm7031 4 роки тому +8

    I love when humans pretend they know what the norm is in the. Universe when what we can see is 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the universe ...

    • @invictus99
      @invictus99 4 роки тому

      Of infinite universe we see still even smaller infinitely tiny part LOL

    • @vomm
      @vomm 4 роки тому +2

      Why not? As long as the same laws of nature apply everywhere in the universe

    • @nightlightabcd
      @nightlightabcd 4 роки тому

      What is normal in the universe is irreverent. Even what is normal in the Milky galaxy is also almost irrelevant to the human species. Even the to get to the closest star would take over 70,000 years to get to! There is no warp drive and no gravity plates in real life! What is normal in this galaxy or even in other galaxies are academic, which is a good thing for human knowledge! It will be hundreds of years, if the human species last that long, before humans ever venture to another star!
      It is highly unlikely that humans will find a planet that is really habitable! Have a solid surface does not make it earth like, nor does having a atmosphere, if it is not a oxygen atmosphere, which so far, none has been found!

    • @agiar2000
      @agiar2000 4 роки тому +3

      Well, we have the Copernican Principle, where we assume, where no contradictory evidence exists, that we are not in an unusual part of the universe, and what we see is part of a typical part of the universe viewable by any observer of our reference class. We generally trust this principle because the alternative seems more unlikely, to assume that there is something remarkable, special, unusual, or unique about our corner of the universe that sets it apart and causes it to work differently from everywhere else in the universe. Yes, that _could_ be true, but why would we expect our part of the universe to be so weird? It's more likely to be normal.
      There's also the principle of induction. We observe certain patterns over and over again to the point where they become practically predictable. When we can accurately predict that a particular phenomenon will continue to take place, then we can say that we have used inductive reasoning to reach generally applicable conclusions about how things work in a more general system.
      Finally, we have math. Math is fundamental and abstract, and while it can be supplemented with empirical observations, it stands on its own without empirical verification as pure logic. We know that we are almost certain not to find stable 3-body systems that are not broken down into hierarchical structures of binaries because of the mathematical work done on the so-called "3-body problem".

  • @shadowraith1
    @shadowraith1 4 роки тому +15

    Very well presented. An interesting topic. So easy to let one's imagination run away with all types of solar configurations. Stay safe. :)

  • @ramiababneh7923
    @ramiababneh7923 2 роки тому +1

    Just a small correction, most planatary systems are actually multi-stared systems. With the most common one being binary star systems. Other than that great video astrum never disappointed 👏👏

  • @coenstem
    @coenstem 4 роки тому +7

    Would these multi star systems be on the same orbital plane as well?

    • @Feber2001
      @Feber2001 4 роки тому

      Like in a galaxy? The milkyway?

    • @calmeilles
      @calmeilles 4 роки тому +1

      If they were all formed at the same time from the same gas cloud it's very, very likely as the resultant bodies would share the sum angular motion of the original mass. But if any member were acquired later by gravitational capture the it could be any which way.

  • @MelancholyCrypto
    @MelancholyCrypto 4 роки тому +7

    This is so incredible! I'm having so much fun learning.

  • @jamesmcdonald3054
    @jamesmcdonald3054 4 роки тому +4

    Isaac Asimov's novel _Pebble in the Sky_ features a planet with (iirc) 6 stars in its vicinity. The people living there only experience "night" once every few thousand years when 5 of the stars form a conjunction and the last star is eclipsed by a "nemesis" planet.

    • @bidishadey3815
      @bidishadey3815 4 роки тому +5

      Isn’t the name of the story ‘nightfall’?

    • @kazebaret
      @kazebaret 4 роки тому

      @@bidishadey3815 Yes, and as far as I remember, there were "only" 5 suns... ¬¬

  • @invictus99
    @invictus99 4 роки тому +21

    I thought I knew the subject a little, now I understand I know nothing, being lost roughly by the middle of this video Lol

    • @adm0iii
      @adm0iii 4 роки тому +3

      Knowing that one knows almost nothing is the definition of intelligence.

    • @apolicum
      @apolicum 4 роки тому +5

      @@adm0iii It's the definition of wisdom, not intelligence.
      If you know almost nothing, you are not intelligent. If you are aware of this fact, you are wise. And the moment you are knowing more and more things, your intelligence is rising as well.

    • @adm0iii
      @adm0iii 4 роки тому +1

      @@apolicum I didn't know that.

    • @stevencoardvenice
      @stevencoardvenice 4 роки тому

      Me too. This was more complicated than I thought it would be, and I couldn't see the planets

  • @Lacksi12
    @Lacksi12 3 роки тому +1

    We have actually found a seven-star system!
    Its called "AR Cassiopeiae"

  • @SyncJr
    @SyncJr 6 місяців тому +3

    The Septasolarians 🫨

  • @Joshdude5570
    @Joshdude5570 4 роки тому +7

    As always this is a Wonderful and beautiful video you have made :D

  • @infidelheretic923
    @infidelheretic923 3 роки тому +2

    Terrible system.
    Never a night’s rest.
    Two star review.

  • @shreyasp3287
    @shreyasp3287 3 роки тому +3

    Just imagine the kind of stories people would make with binary stars as sun their mythology and philosophy and beliefs would be really interesting

  • @centauria9122
    @centauria9122 4 роки тому +1

    Just imagine being in a multi star system like the Rigil Kentaurus (Alpha Centauri System) on Proxima B (Maybe tidally locked, or has an orbital resonance like Mercury that gives it a day/night cycle depending on the eccentricity of the planet's orbit around Proxima Centauri.) And get to see 3 stars at the same time probably, as well as the night side, the stars Alpha Centauri A and B would still shine bright, but is far away from Proxima Centauri being 4.2 ly from Earth and Alpha Centauri A and B being 4.3 ly
    from Earth. Since it is close by in the interstellar scale of space, one day, us humans can do plenty of scientific experiments, study the planet as a whole, and then settle there. Though there might be a possibility that there maybe another planet could be orbiting around that system, who knows until we further study it. Nice video btw Astrum, but you've forgot to mention about the habitable zones that is quite important for life as we know it.

  • @MalcolmTown
    @MalcolmTown 4 роки тому +4

    Hey Astrum, have you read The Three-Body Problem? It offers a wonderful explanation of binary / ternary star systems, as well as myriad other space phenomena. I've compared a lot of the stuff in that book with your videos, and a satisfying amount of it holds up to reality, which only bolsters my appreciation for the book as a literary gateway to astronomy. Your channel is the same thing-a gateway. We all admire the crazy work you put into producing such captivating edutainment for us, and the recent multilingual efforts to make this content more accessible than ever. Thank you!

    • @Serenelove520
      @Serenelove520 4 роки тому

      Malcolm Spencer dude, not to bash the trilogy which I am a fan of as well, but what the heck? The trilogy was a science fiction and not very strictly aligned with science after all, how does these two compare? Different species...

    • @MalcolmTown
      @MalcolmTown 4 роки тому +1

      @@Serenelove520 Yeah I was thinking more along the lines of the first book, but decided to nudge all the books in there for the recommendation. I'll change that. I'll also mitigate my speaking in absolutes. You're right, I'm hand-picking scenes that DID work and neglecting ones that didn't. But personally, it's all part of what brought me to this channel, and there are moments I remember fondly that line up with stuff I've learned here. As for which moments... I'm afraid I must avoid spoilers. Thanks for checking me though mate.

    • @Serenelove520
      @Serenelove520 4 роки тому

      Malcolm Spencer haha, no problem. But there is a video talking about three body problem, totally unrelated to the book, but still cool astrology. You can try look it up

  • @honey4xi
    @honey4xi 4 роки тому +2

    There can be three stars: one small star orbits clockwise and the other small star orbits counterclockwise the big star, all planets orbit their stars respectively.

    • @maryann2628
      @maryann2628 2 роки тому

      how about 8 stars they are unstable but 2 close stars orbiting the inner barycenter with the 2 close stars too
      and the outer 2 star binary system with the 2 star binary system
      orbit together with the outer barycenter
      if you don't understand then
      o-o--.--o-o-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------o-o--.--o-o
      and also could be 9 or 10 oo-oo----------------------oo-oo----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------oo

  • @IWatchAndLearn
    @IWatchAndLearn 4 роки тому +6

    The answer to “the three body problem”. Thanks.

  • @DLNOT
    @DLNOT 5 місяців тому +2

    _Video title_
    Trisolarans in Trisolaris: 😑😶💀☠

  • @Spinikar
    @Spinikar 4 роки тому +3

    The Universe is insane and we are so small. Love studying the science. So amazing and we barely scratching the surface.

  • @RuhrRedArmy
    @RuhrRedArmy 2 роки тому +1

    “Proves the universe prefers order” says the title. Well, no. The second law of thermodynamics tells us that the universe is always increasing in entropy, which put simply, is disorder. The universe “prefers” disorder, not order.

  • @kevinclancy1573
    @kevinclancy1573 4 роки тому +10

    Anyone else get existential and anxious about the delicate balance of our solar system watching these vids?

    • @AverageAlien
      @AverageAlien 4 роки тому +1

      Not quite as delicate or fast as you think. Even if an imbalance were to happen, it would take hundreds or thousands of years for effects to be noticable

    • @vkobevk
      @vkobevk 4 роки тому

      nope, because we know planet and star like sun are common 😊

  • @jroc6345
    @jroc6345 4 роки тому +2

    Why are closely orbiting objects usually tidally locked?

    • @adm0iii
      @adm0iii 4 роки тому +5

      Oversimplified: When close, the orbital speeds of the near and far parts of the object become noticeably different. This tugs at and continuously slows down the rotation of the object, until eventually it stops with respect to what it orbits.

    • @rude49er
      @rude49er 4 роки тому

      @@adm0iii Nicely explained.

  • @brettess52
    @brettess52 4 роки тому +3

    Wow, really interesting. Thank you. Looking forward to being able to holiday on one of these planets one day, more particularly those with warm Earth-like conditions and all day sunshine from all those sun's. 8-)

  • @sam4malaysia
    @sam4malaysia 2 роки тому +1

    Let me complete for you your presentation :
    AR cassiopeiaa is multiple star system in the constellation of cassiopeia. It is thought to be a septuple star system. It is one of only two known star system with a multiplicity of 7, the other being Nu scorpii.

  • @wabawoooIII
    @wabawoooIII 4 роки тому +4

    What would comets look like in a system like this?

  • @ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e
    @ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e 3 роки тому +1

    🤔🤔🤔
    I wonder what crazy religions would pop up in these systems to explain the multiple stars? Would be interesting.

  • @Malkovith2
    @Malkovith2 4 роки тому +4

    Do a shoutout to Space Engine sometime. I think it deserves one for this video.

  • @MG-er6dm
    @MG-er6dm 3 роки тому +1

    7 Suns? Now you're talking about some pretty hot stuff! 🔥 🔥 🔥

  • @canag0d
    @canag0d 3 роки тому +13

    “We like to keep things simple in this solar system”
    AMERICA DOES NOT ADOPT THE METRIC SYSTEM

  • @daron20133
    @daron20133 2 роки тому +1

    Sure, planet can have multiple suns but the gravitational pull would be so disruptive that no life or any living thing can survive on it.

  • @kadecampbell8098
    @kadecampbell8098 4 роки тому +5

    You mentioned that "most" planetary systems contain a singular star. This is surprisingly incorrect; according to The Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation of Australia, "up to 85% of stars are in binary systems with some in triple or even higher-multiple systems."
    Edit: You corrected yourself at the end of the video, I was referring to the statment made towards the beginning.

  • @flori5296
    @flori5296 3 роки тому +1

    proxima centauri b is a planet orbiting proxima Centauri orbiting Alpha Centauri A and Alpha Centauri B that orbit each other.

  • @dbsti3006
    @dbsti3006 4 роки тому +10

    I still imagine these systems to be quite chaotic considering they may have their own Oort clouds extending far outward. Comets flung around all over the place.

  • @deusexaethera
    @deusexaethera 4 роки тому +1

    @Astrum: The correct term is ternary, not trinary. Trinary is not a real word. Following on from that are quaternary, quintenary, sextenary, septenary, octenary, etc.

  • @anitapeura3517
    @anitapeura3517 3 роки тому +3

    Another great informative program by someone with a real infectious enthusiasm for the subject! Love this channel!

  • @mikal
    @mikal 3 роки тому +1

    Asimov's "Nightfall" features an Earth-like planet (complete with humans) that has 7 Suns in the sky, but claims to have as few as 2 in the sky at any given time. This is what makes me think Asimov didn't do much thinking before writing the story. With 7 of them, how exactly are 5 going to disappear at any give time, unless the stars were orbiting the planet? This would require some Olympic-level stretching to come up with an actual scenario where this might work. Perhaps 5 of them orbit 2 of them, and the 5 will all be hidden behind the 2 at some point.

  • @AmazingJackandJohn
    @AmazingJackandJohn 4 роки тому +1

    your voice is now fixed alex. nice

  • @KillsAll.
    @KillsAll. 4 роки тому +29

    It’s like I was in elite dangerous discovery mode

  • @darkleome5409
    @darkleome5409 4 роки тому +11

    Hoping to see more multi star systems in sci fi. IMHO, they're indeed as alien as possible

    • @Kirealta
      @Kirealta 4 роки тому +2

      I think aliens are as alien as possible.

    • @CireNosttam
      @CireNosttam 4 роки тому +1

      The Three Body Problem is an entire Sci-Fi book largely focused on trying to solve a multi-star system

  • @69Solo
    @69Solo 4 роки тому +4

    You sure planet 9 is not dward star or a black hole.

    • @arthurballs7083
      @arthurballs7083 4 роки тому +2

      If it was any sort of star astromers would be able to see it surely?

    • @vomm
      @vomm 4 роки тому +1

      or another universe!

    • @adm0iii
      @adm0iii 4 роки тому

      @@arthurballs7083 Red dwarf stars are very dim, with some effectively invisible at even just a fraction of a light-year. Some astrophysicists predict there are likely several dim red dwarf stars within a few light-years of each the stars we see, including the Sun.

  • @phaslow4393
    @phaslow4393 4 роки тому +8

    Your videos are absolutely fantastic. They are clear, concise, the music is great and your enthusiasm for the topics presented clearly shows. A new video from Astrum always makes my day.
    Keep it up because this is a very good thing that you are doing.

  • @Syllence
    @Syllence 3 роки тому +1

    If you think this is bright, wait til they turn on Discord bright mode.

  • @Pitmirk_
    @Pitmirk_ 4 роки тому +6

    looks at device, thinks ho hum.... then Hurray!! .. an Astrum video :-) and weirdly was thinking i must look this topic up just a few days ago, thanks again

  • @kevmasengale6903
    @kevmasengale6903 3 роки тому +1

    We all know what a binary sunset looks like.... and the music that goes along with it.

  • @christmassnow3465
    @christmassnow3465 4 роки тому +3

    Seasons on other planets will be an interesting topic, too: not just axial tilt like on Earth, but other factors to consider: eccentricity, tidal locking to a star, orbital to rotation resonance, and also the effect of having a system with more than one star, be it of comparable masses or otherwise.

    • @adm0iii
      @adm0iii 4 роки тому

      Seasons on _Earth_ have been interesting in the past. We have been at a minimum of a complex cycle of seasonal differences for the last 10,000 years or so. It's probably why farming/civilization started about then.