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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- ABC News’ Linsey Davis spoke to professors Nathan Connolly and Shani Mott who filed an appraisal discrimination lawsuit, with Mott saying, “My jaw dropped. I was like, this is racism, right?”
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Why can’t we keep these companies accountable for this? This is beyond despicable
Because they are protected by right-wing politics and media that denies it happens; this couple will win this lawsuit, but it will not have a national impact, because the lowball is so profitable for racist companies.
@@olliemck60 what right wing policy exactly makes this legal please elaborate lmao? its just racist people and thats it lol. not all people on the right are racist and not everyone on the left is a pink haired fat bimbo who doesnt know anything abt the world besides their 74 genders. Most people are good people. dont stereotype people its a bad look
Exactly
@I I said what I meant!
@@olliemck60 Take them down one by one! Do not be a defeatist! We will take them down! Evil will never prevail!
they're both rich and highly educated. this shows racism and discrimination is not only towards the low income black community. it's shocking how much fo a difference the value is
9razzler9 Shocking to who ??
Why do you think they are “rich?”
@@tonefaulcon9729 They seem to be upper middle class at least based on the neighborhood and the property value..
@@williamcarter9066 believe it or not, a lot of people don't see racism affecting upper middle class black people
@Adrian can you explain? You mean when racists look at black people, they devalue them as being primitive, no matter how well off they are? I truly believe that. Think about how they talked about the highly educated Obamas
There was a reason why MLK was killed during his Poor People's Campaign and not during his Civil Rights Campaign. The powers that be could tolerate social progress for black Americans, but not economic progress. The Tulsa race massacre was proof that government officials were not only complacent in this economic oppression, but literally participated in it themselves. It has been 159 years since emancipation but the black-white wealth gap has not closed. In fact, it has only grown wider in the last 60 years. This is what people are referring to when they say 'systemic racism.' True racial equality cannot be achieved without economic equality. That's why MLK shifted his focus to economic rights in the late 60's. But this video is evidence that progress has not been made.
If you say so
@@jetrifle4209 shut up. 😒
Just a guy with 1.28m subs spreading conspiracy theories grow up
Apple Explained 100% facts !!!
@Drew what’s a pfn?
When selling our first home, my (White) agent told me to remove all family photos. I asked, why? She looked at me and said: “There’s a lot of racist buyers out there” I wasn’t angry, I actually appreciated her honesty. Also, my town wasn’t very inviting. My house sold with one showing, multiple offers. I can definitely relate. Sad, but true.
Anyone who is a good realtor will tell clients to remove photos and sentimental items. The buy has to see it as a place they would live, and not a place already occupied by someone else.
@@nicolcacolaDid you miss the part where her (white) realtor told her to remove her pictures BECAUSE there were a lot of racist buyers out there?
Bec
@SnowLeopardForever The point is irregardless of the cosmetic, philosophical, religious, or ethical reasons a person wouldn't buy a house, removing all personal items is a must to sell at market value.
I understand what you are saying, but companies need to leave their biases at the door.
When buying a house, a buyer does not want to see the current owner's mementos, pictures, or interest in the house. I would think they would want to visualize themselves in that home. Seeing other people's stuff would not give me a warm and fuzzy feeling if I saw that "lived-in" look. Other people's " interest" or what they think is interesting does not appeal to everyone. So I would think always make your home " basic" when selling.
And for those who say race bias and racism doesn't exist, this is just one highlighted examples. This couple is brave to show us.
Exactly 🙋🏿♀️
Exactly!!
It's not that it doesn't exist. There is always going to be racist individuals. But systematic racism doesn't exist.
@@bryanflake6858 It does because this wouldn't happen to a white person. White people do not have to hide their race to get the value they deserve
@@lawtraf8008 but it's not bank policy. This isn't on a systematic level. This is just a handful of racist people not a entire company or company policy.
Fighting discrimination and fighting cancer at the same time. I can’t imagine. Praying the trial treatment is effective for her. Beautiful couple.
This is why CRT has to be told
Cheers from west Africa
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It's not discrimination It's systematic racism.
@Carrie Good LMAOOOOO 🤡. Systematic racism does exist and how would you know it doesn't??? You aren't black or of color but I am sure you are racist. So you do know. Furthermore, unlike you I am college degreed, ex military and gainfully employed despite of racists like you!
@Carrie Good liar
@Carrie Good racists like you make me sick. The biggest deniers are the worst perpetrators. And you surround yourself with other racists too. Birds of a feather.
Imagine all of the wealth that has been lost and stolen over the last hundred years because of this type of behavior… in many industries.
I respect them for approaching and addressing this situation with class and dignity.
True💯💯
Cannot deny this behavior happens. Makes me sick, and appraisal companies guilty of this should be shut down period.
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Well then we wouldn’t have any companies smh
Michelle, I agree.👍Just like any business, we want them to be honorable in their dealings and it can be done. We must report this kind of dealings and they must be punish. Unfortunately, this has been happening for decades and finally, this information is being reported by mainstream media. Ultimately, we will get rid of companies that allow this type of behavior and replaced them with reputable companies. Stay tune.😊
It's kind of their fault if they did their research like they said they should of gotten a realtor to give an appraisal as they make a commission so they naturally want the highest price for your house, and its free.
And they waited a week for the price of the appraisal, every realtor I know give's you an appraisal price the same day, they do a walkthrough and compare to comparable/recently sold houses in your area of the same stature.
@@thatguy5801, real estate agents conducts what’s called a Comparative Market Analysis (CMA), in fairness, customers can go to websites, such as Zillow or Redfin to get an idea of their property value….however, it’s quite different, when you’re doing a refinance. In order to get equity from your home, it requires an in-depth analysis, which requires a professional (Appraiser) to investigate and ultimately, give their personal opinion of what the customer’s home is worth, you do not need a real estate agent. Here’s where the problem lies, when you give this kind of power to someone(Appraiser), who allows his/her own prejudice to override their duties and responsibility to present a fair analysis, it creates problems for the homeowner. My friend, to blame the victim (homeowner) because someone refuses to conduct themselves in a professional and honorable manner is unacceptable.
My next neighbor asked if we could help her get a quote for a new roof because roofing companies were quoting high prices. Once we did we could see that the prices these companies were quoting her and her husband were out of the world in Florida. We were not only shocked but insisted if they needed our help for any other quotes to let us know so we could help get them a lower price. This is completely unfair treatment by these companies.
What a lovely gesture. I’m glad there are people like you around.
God bless you
This is infuriating. But you're kind for doing this.
Wow!
This is great for your neighbor to do this....this is the type of call to action that Black people need...Thank you!
My sister sold her house some years ago. The realtor told her, straight out the gate, to remove any ethnic art, etc. The realtor, who was white, said she was sorry, but the reality is if buyers know the seller is black, they either won't buy it or they will try to low brow the offer. This is real and it is going on in this day and age. SMH Kudos to this couple for exposing this. I hope it brings about real change in the housing industry.
wow, true my brother was telling me that but i felt like no way i live in a mixed neighborhood but he knows he has several properties. Now after seeing this i know its true. Its sad but you have to play their games i live in an area where the homes are worth a nice amount some of the neighbors are white keep their homes much worst then the ones of colors do.
I hope you follow through with the lawsuit and that you win.
Don’t let anyone disrespect you because of your race, ethnicity, etc.
Aaahhh , yes & I hope you find the court documents ( which are available ) understand how housing markets work and insanely false their claims are, you'll retract your statement.
@@Someone-tz8qs Professor Connolly is a professor that teaches about redlining. So, I think he knows what housing discrimination looks like.
You can see the fear and love in this man's eyes as his wife talks about her health. Best wishes for the family. Sending love ❤️
I know. 🙏🏾❤️
I didn't hear any business about them being married but, anyways
@@akilaj553 who hurt you?
@@prestonmatthews725 this question is just silly
@@akilaj553 they clearly stated that they’ve been together for quite some time and have kids. Does it matter if they’re married or not? You all need to move away and unpack those myopic thinking and worldviews.
This is why the online application process has been beneficial to me. Countless times the credit score, yearly income, and every other qualifying criteria has been on point. Then when my wife and I walk into the office to finalize, the shock of seeing that we are Black is very, very real. Too late to discriminate. We’ve already been approved. Sometimes they’re so flustered that they will actually comment that they are really surprised that we qualify for some much. I wonder how many white folk they say that to??? Probably zero!!!!
I played their little games too!! Now I look outside at my pool and smile. Why are they asking race on credit applications? Our social security numbers already tell your race.
It's so sickening to me, that this goes on.
My government name is a "white name". You can't judge my race by it. Same here... After being qualified online and walking into the establishment to seal the deal, I get the 😳😯. Even with my ID and/or soc. sec. card in their hand I've been asked to verbally verify name, DOB, last four of social, and address like this must be a damn prank or a mix up smh. I just 😏!!
@@freshprince130 I've heard different things about social security numbers. Please share how it reveals a person's race. Thanks.
"Too late to discriminate." Lol. 😆
I've been a victim of that as well. I refinanced 3 homes over the past 2 years, and they were all appraised under market value. I had to confront the appraiser for his discriminatory treatment on my most recent home. It's upsetting to realize that regardless of how accomplished one can be in today's society, the skin color will often be the single factor to be judged by.
I'm about to go find a white couple when I get ready to sell a house. lol
Wise decision. Always keep white friend handy.
“Jump to the conclusion” came off as offensive. These people don’t seem like the type to come to a conclusion unless they thought it out. They present as reasonable people.
This couple didn't "jump to the conclusion." The evidence was there in black and white (pardon the expression .)
I agree, the mix race reporter, who probably hasn't claimed being black ever, showed her discrimination.
It's always "an assumption" to people who never understand it but exercise the behavior. In my opinion. Everyone knows it's discrimination.
My husband and I owned a Real Estate Appraisal company and we worked in the appraisal industry for 16 years in a very hot market. I also worked as a Realtor for a few years and this segment left so many questions unanswered.
1) Is it possible you had a very lazy and inept appraiser the first time?
2) You mentioned that you couldn’t wait to put the pictures back up - are you aware that Realtors have been asking sellers to pack up ALL PERSONAL PICTURES and ANY items which personalize your home too much? The idea is that the buyer needs to picture THEMSELVES in the home vs feeling like they’re viewing someone else’s house. (if it’s too personalized).
I realize this produced interview may not have captured all of the facts and it is possible the original appraiser DID have prejudice in his heart. But if that IS the case, he is guilty all by himself. The ugliness in his heart doesn’t infect everyone - he isn’t a system. He is an individual appraiser.
I am an immigrant with brown skin. My family moved from Cuba to a white, homogeneous city in Washington State…in the late 60s. We moved to Miami, FL in the 70s (for the weather) and lived in a white, homogeneous neighborhood with white homogeneous schools until High School. And I never ever felt racism until I entered High School…but I encountered the “go back where you came from” from black individuals.
My mother and father -in-law were executed by 3 black men in 1984.
In the trials, they were guilty…but we felt compassion for their entire extended, black families.
My mom was physically assaulted in her car while stopped at a light. After hurricane Andrew. Insurance companies were paying out threw a couple of banks in one particular area and I guess the word got out. The large, muscular man reached in to her open car window to grab her purse. But her physical body was in his way and he pummeled my 5’3” mom. She was in the hospital for weeks, lost 50,000 cash that she had to pay as a deposit for her contractor and lost her contractor and almost lost her house. The assailant was black - he was never caught.
My husband was a process server and was held at gunpoint (gun on his forehead) for over an hour while he was just posting 3day notices in the neighborhood. This was in the time when tourists were being killed in broad daylight in Miami. The assailants robbed him and threatened to kill him and somehow, God let him escape that alive. They were black.
Every single criminal impacting our family, directly was black. They were individuals.
Imagine if I raised my family with “minority education”? Instead, We are a multicultural family. We marry individuals and love EVERY skin color on this planet.
James 3:17 teaches us that we can feel confident of owning insight about others that isn’t true. It doesn’t come from God.
Individuals aren’t systems.
That was a low blow. These people are educated.
Bless her heart! She does not need to deal with this BullSh*t while fighting cancer! This is despicable on so many levels!!
Yep ..cancer adds emotion to the narrative.
I think this is about jealousy. The same thing happened to me when I was a 29 year old single women buying a 4500 square foot home on half acre in Denver with mountain views they did not want to give me a loan. Finally I spoke with the president and he said do you realize what you make in a month is what most people make in a year. Some people get so jealous when a person in their mind should not be successful because they are a minority. Some people who are part of the majority have a strong sense of entitlement and are angered when those in the minority have achieved alot more success then they have.
Facts!
YOU ARE WRONG !
What a beautiful, strong, connected couple! Just watching them and how they know how to pick up when their spouse is finished statement and when to lend a hand. THIS is a model BLACK POWER COUPLE! I commend them for their strength and resilience! Thanks for giving young couples people to look up to! I pray this gets fixed soon and God bless the wife!
The fact that they missed out on a very low interest rate and now have to change the terms of their mortgage from 15 years to 30 years should be seem as criminal. I hope they win their lawsuit and they get enough to pay off the home and get the best medical help they can afford to help Dr. Shani Mott with her battle with cancer. Prayers up for this amazing couple!
I know I feel 100% the same way I wish them well and what happened to them was most definitely criminal
Im from the UK, and honestly if I was white in africa, and this happened to me, simple, ill just get the blackest guy or girl to get an appraisal for my house, black people over here in the UK and USA, should just get blonde hair blue eyed people, to avoid this happening, should it be like this NO, but it is, and at least there is a quick way around it . at least up until the world changes , I helped plenty of my black friends in situations like this, its only a hour of my time,
The whole housing market is criminal, Thomas Jefferson tried to warn us.
@@Charlie-xj5jm But that's not a solution. We should be able to get an appraisal without worrying about our skin color affecting the results. I shouldn't have to go see one of my white friends or have to remove my family pictures or any indication of my blackness from my home to get a fair market value for my house. What you describe above isn't a simple solution. It's pure discrimination. It's 2022, some people should learn to just evolve!
Very impressed with this couple.
They're not bums
Hopefully the lawsuit will more than compensate this lovely couple for the additional interest as well as the pain and suffering. May the Mrs. receive clean bill of health.
COMPLETELY COMPENSATED BY LAW PLUS AN ADDED AMOUNT OF PAIN & suffering by the judge administrating that the company give Diversity Training to the Employees (ALL ETHNICITIES) & a compensation for ADDED pain & suffering. *It is not the companies fault that her hearth/health issues came up at the same time, HOWEVER, the company should feel a financial INCENTIVE in addressing HOW THEIR BIASED BEHAVIORS ACTUALLY EFFECTIVELY make other human being have MORE pain & suffering. Corporations don’t have feeling but people do; so the only equivalency of a “punch in the gut” to a “CORPORATION (AS PEOPLE)” is to hit them where it hurts- their bottom financial line.
Bless you brother & sister on your journey to EFFECTIVELY HELP TO AFFECT CHANGE & CHALLENGE AREAS WHERE THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN! May you be blessed with a miracle in time & place as you cleanse your personal adrenal system & the public adrenal SYSTEM! Power to the PEOPLE! Humanity deserves better to & from each other. Thank you for walking the walk & being willing to show your child & your children’s children the way forward…….🧠🫀🫁👣❣️💜
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no one wants to see the pictures of your damn kids and you know that 30grand they put in wasn't up to code
this is a bs story
Nope hope they lose stay mad Karen
If they’re suing the loan company, they won’t win. If they sue the appraiser (and they should) his professional ins bond will be capped.
there is a pending lawsuit?...I was not aware of that but it would be the obvious thing to do
So sad that this kind of thing happens in this day and age. My heart goes out to you guys.
Prayers up for Dr. Mott's recovery.🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Wow. How disgusting that you and your household were treated like this. Prayers for good health to you all.
They should of contacted a realtor for their free appraisal, its their fault.
Realtors want the highest value for your house as they are paid a commission and it wouldn't take one week to find out the price, usually its within an hour or same day, a simple walkthrough and looking at comparables (recently sold houses in your vicinity of the same stature).
It’s their fault a man displayed his racist views toward them?
@@shayla4969Racism will always exist, what can you do about it. Segregate the world? We can't even get along as a human species look at Russia and Ukraine. WW1 WW2.....look at you. People kill people.
@@thatguy5801 WOW...ALWAYS THE BLACK FAULT...UNBELIEVABLE
@@toppf294 Why are you so racist undermining people by the color of their skin lol?
You should never have to “hide” your skin color or your culture! This is just appalling!
Crypto fixes this. Never asks for an interview.
Please read my post
Happens all the time
Unless you're white... because that automatically makes you a racist.
True , This America where ,they don't value people of color that much. Things are getting better still . Sick fcuks
“I play by the rules. I do all I’m supposed to do.” Man, do I feel that!
OMG this couple is wonderful!!! I'm so glad they were in a position to draw attention to this terrible situation. Wishing them health and happiness in the future
This happens everywhere!!! Truly sad!!! I hope all black homeowners will do the same to protect their investment!!!
I bet it would not happen in South Africa . 🤔🤔
I hope black people stop supporting a country that don’t support us.
It doesn't happen in my country.
@@writtenhousesecurity6499 It does. You seem to think that Black people are privileged over white people in South Africa
@@lawtraf8008 Well now that they are running the country, they must all be doing better . 🤨🤨
“We play by the rules. We do everything right”
Speaks volumes. I hope we can collectively do better.
Shar Burc, Well "We" need to stop thinking that "We" are more valuable than human beings with Brown skin.
@@sherrisolomon8673 I believe that "we" are asserting that "we" are equal to all hu-man beings with or with out brown skin
no it doesnt. where have you seen that people get rewarded for playing by the rules?
Another communist in the comment section saying “collectively”. Gtfo
Sounds like you love that mandingo pipe eh?
My parents went through this it’s so sad and heart breaking
I am shocked this happened. I can’t believe in this day and age that this still happens Praying for this beautiful family
My sister went through the same thing but her husband is white. First appraisal she was there and a very low appraisal came in. Second time, she wasn't with her husband during the evaluation and the appraisal came in much higher. It's blatantl racism and it needs to stop. Hold these companies accountable for discrimination.
Well she has white husband privilege
The same person gave 2 different appraisals?
@@martinwhite418 No, they paid for a second appraisal from a different company because the first one came in too low.
@@gt2bg ok, so I fed someone half a hamburger, they said it tasted yucky, so I fed the other half to someone else and they said it tasted great. They picked the one they preferred. I liked the guy who Said my hamburger tasted great, so I picked him.
@@martinwhite418 when your home is a million dollar plus home and comps in your neighborhood back that up, no one should have to white wash thier home for a fair appraisal.
I pray she has a full recovery and they have many many more years let to be the wonderful family that they are
Shes sick?
@@Student0Toucher La Vida bendito, aprende a ver todo el video primero, papito, si?
@@nellmv9551 Espero que no seas un hombre llamándome papito jaja Los mexicanos no hacen eso solo los puertorriqueños y todos ellos
@@Student0Toucher Haha si soy mujer puertorriqueña. En eso te doy la razón.
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God bless this lovely couple. God bless the lady's health. May she make a full recovery. Praying for you. 😘🙏🥰❤️💋
I pray this lovely couple won their law suit & the misses beat her cancer👍🏼🙏🏻❤
Real estate is one of the most racist institutions we have in the US
Then fix it. Why's that not happening? All the money blacks give this USA economy to be treated this way seems odd.
Besides the church!
@@johndear1592 Oh yes the contribution that you black people make is insurmountable I mean after all what would be the state of the economy if when you all use your food stamps your AFDC payments you’re free housing free food free medical free dental free school I must admit that the 13% actually comes into the US con of me through free stuff quite a contribution I want to thank you and I’m so sorry is a white person that I bothered you I don’t want you don’t know you should get everything for free because you’re black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black black!
My stepdad’s down payment for a brand new home went from $7500 to $16,500 LITERALLY on the day of closing 💀 when I say his mouth dropped & then on top of that, the house wasn’t even done with, they gave us one coat of paint on the walls, we’re missing a whole cabinet & etc .. it’s just horrible 🤦🏽♀️ we have a lawyer looking over things ! I feel like we got finessed
@@Breeology_ Yeah you Poor oppressed black people.
Remove evidence of your and your family’s presence from your own home must’ve been just a terrible experience. It should never happen.
All realtors advice moving out personal items such as pictures, decorations, etc out of a house so that buyers can imagine how their things in the house. I went through this and I am white.
@@cheryldurham3560 Is that true for refinancing your house as well?
@@cheryldurham3560 Yes but the removal of personal belongings in this particular instance was due to their race, not for esthetic purposes…
Actually as a Realtor for over 10 years you're supposed to remove religious symbols and family photos from your home when you have it up for sale no matter who you are.
alot of things in amerikkka that are happening should never be happening like the police murdering unarmed black men....but that's another story for another time
This has to stop. Discrimination against any race is a serious moral offence and people need to understand basic human ethics in life.
And they say theres no need for affermative action
The root of racism is economic keep-away. Knowing this-and seeing recent examples of other families that experienced the same thing this family experienced-I recently told my wife to whitewash our home when we refinanced in North Carolina earlier this year.
We basically removed all pics and reference of us away from our walls, and my wife got a colleague (a white woman) to babysit the house while we were gone that day.
Our appraisal was $10,000-$20,000 more than expected…so the “white washing” of our place worked (unfortunately).
Implicit bias will destroy us if we don’t have systems in place to correct it. First, Black possessions are implicitly valued lower. That’s the root issue. Second, there aren’t many Black appraisers. And third, if you ever read an appraisal report, you’ll find their values are mostly “subjective”…outside of looking at comps. This leaves room for economic discrimination to be made by an appraiser.
Until things change, “white washing” a home for appraisal might be the best bet. Because you should NEVER lose thousands of dollars from your home’s value simply due to your skin color.
Nobody should have to play childish games w/a racist system that makes $1.6 trillion yearly from the community's spending power, plus billions in taxes ($200 billion) and from black owned businesses ($300 billion). This is what we should teach kids? Enrich a System that slaps you in the face and not hold our own politicians and civil rights organizations accountable for turning the other cheek? I'm understanding the issue and get it, but I'm not having white friends save me.
You don't know because you didn't test it yourself first. Just guessing.
@@JK-br1mu that’s like saying you didn’t know a snake was going to bite you if you wear a handling glove because you didn’t test it first. This is well documented practice. They real reason for racism is that without treating minorities inferior and subjugating them most of the ruling class can’t compete for the same resources on an even playing field. Many prefer the scales be tipped
@@JK-br1mu historically black owned homes are undervalued. But it's sick you expect everyone to do an racism test on their appraiser.
@@JK-br1mu Go away, bigoted troll. There's an entire government housing discrimination division. Who do you think you are? _YOU_ take your lazy butt out there & prove racist housing discrimination DOESN'T exist w/ "tests" to THE GOVERNMENT & the millions who have & are currently dealing with it. Stop disrespecting & harassing blk ppl. Bye. 😒
I hope this doesn't come out wrong... but sometimes the wrong things happen to the right people. This power couple knew how to prove and expose this discrimination. Their credentials will help them get heard more. They are bringing awareness which will hopefully bring change.
I pray her new treatments bring her health back.
Amazing couple. I hope they are able to get their home paid off early so that they are able to live comfortably. That's dispicable....
I know what you mean. I’m happy for them
The only problem is that they had to both be doctors, him a professor (I believe) who teaches civil rights and historical housing discrimination in America, to be aware of what happened to them. I worked in real estate for years and in the valuations of homes. Comps make or break any estimate. This clown used comps outside of their wealthy neighborhood and the one be used within was a complete "fixer upper" and had no resemblance to their property. 95% of valuations agents are white. There is overt and inherent biases cooked into the real estate market. Insurance is determined by your zip code. Same house, same builder, same bricks, etc. but a home in a black neighborhood is usually 30% lower valued than the exact same home in a gentrification neighborhood.
right people never seem to be white 🤔
Actually, it was perfectly phrased.
I hope all works out for this family. ❤️
This is disgusting that it’s happening today.
Everyone's commenting on how accomplished and competent the couple is, would it have been different if the couple weren't highly educated? Racism has always had to do with RACE, not education, not wealth, not prestige. RACE!
Agreed. Class discrimination is a thing too.
well said. racism has nothing to do with so-called Ghetto behavior, its skin color period. In fact, the more educated you are, the more you are a threat to racist and racism.
Well said
Yes and I hope other commenters realize that
Yes, then it would be like why you using the race card. Sometimes people in the same class can give attention regardless of race but let's say on a smaller scale like when my landlord stole 2500 and evicted me because it wasn't 300,000 or I'm a single black mother without power, Instead of a professor, I get nothing. Not even the judge was on my side. No justice or money for a lawyer. It's weird ppl that do these things sleep good at night too, especially if they in better circumstances. In a smaller scale no one cares. Even though the affect on my life is worse. Just sick 😫
The way they laugh together is just so amusing and relaxing. I love these people and I don't even know them
It hurts my heart to see how sad he is. He's almost ready to cry as she is. So sad.
What a beautiful couple! What a horrible crime done to them! Infuriating and shameful. I hope they get justice.
Gosh wow these two give the most wholesome Mom & Dad feels. Discrimination is bad enough, but somehow it feels worse when the people it's against are super smart, intelligent great people. I hope they _kick ass_ with their lawsuit!
It’s bad when it’s against the rich or the poor. Maybe even worse for poor people because they don’t have the money to lawyer up and fight it.
@@teshamiller6001 the thing is, when it happens to poor people of course the outcome is worse but at the same time, ts easier to explain away as “poor people always get duped” and of course that needs fixing. However this super affluent intelligent couple who have 10 out of 10 everything going for them and even they, who did their homework and played by all the rules and still got shafted by institutional racism. I’m literally aghast for the same reason they’re aghast - this seems like the least vulnerable people for this crime and yet here we are.
Exactly... discrimination should only happen to the poor and uneducated 😑 I know that's probably not what you meant but that's how it read.
Victor, your comment comes across as quite hierarchical, as every person has equal value. Those who are unintelligent and ignorant are equal and deserve the same treatment; they are as important as the super smart and intelligent. I don’t know where you are from, but here in the U.S., that narrative, unfortunately, is quite overt, ubiquitous, and harmful. Moreover, the “unintelligent” are less likely to have the experience and knowledge to even know that this has happened to them and the skill set to know how to handle this type of impropriety. Continuing to make these types of comments perpetuates classism bigotry. With sincerity.
@@texasgoddess323 , no it doesn't. He's explaining that showing a wealthy, educated Black couple isolates the factor of institutional racism. So that no one can claim it's just poverty and not race. A lot of ppl like to pretend racism is over, but when you have a couple like them, ppl can't pretend the problem is only income or education.
This is 10000% true! I worked at a mortgage bank and the government found out our accounting dept. was denying applications from a certain part of town due to the demographic. They were sued and I quit. Now they have to give anyone from that area 1/3 of their mortgage paid as well as $2k in home equity loans
Good for those individuals! That's karma for you.
It sounds like they could have benefited a good person like you in that company though
So, a private company broke the law and was penalized. The offended parties were made whole? Sounds like the system worked. Is there racism & discrimination? Yes, but that does not mean we generalize about everyone who happens to be part of the majority in this country.
@@craignim way to defend your white counterparts, lord know what yall would do without Craig darroch
@@alanbrown3172 Nah, it's called thinking through a situation and offering a different perspective. Original thought...try it some time.
what a beautiful couple. I’m so sorry and sad they had to go thru this 😞
I commend this couple for coming forward👏🏾 It's so sad to see this still happening to my people. I pray a judge sides with then, an award them exactly what they're asking. Racism is very real on so many levels.
Such a strong and beautiful lady, I wish you speedy recovery. You both are classy people who deserve fairness. What a horrible society we are in.
Former loan officer here. Unfortunately this story is all too common the appraiser industry is overwhelmingly older white male dominated. If you feel your appraisal is unfair always get a 2nd one.
As a loan officer you should know that appraisals varying a lot by different appraisers isn’t uncommon at all. Unless you get a large number of appraisals on the same home and compare; you don’t know if ràce has anything to do with it. It could easily be the first appriser tends to low ball all his appraisals and the second person doesn’t. I’ve had this happen to me too and my skín color didn’t change. The first guy pulled all the lowest price fixer upper homes in my area and only used those as comps to value my home (my home isn’t a fixer upper, so this wasn’t a fair valuation and low balled my numbers by a lot). The next person didn’t do that and I got a much stronger and fair valuation. Also, the comps are all there in the report, as a home owner you should look to see the homes they used to come up with a value and dispute any you do not agree with.
@@GhostSal I'm aware of that but as someone who's LGBTQ and a person of color I would believe it's more important still for people in minority categories to get a 2nd opinion as there is a lot of bias in the industry.
@@chrisaycock5965 I believe it’s important for everyone to get a second opinion, maybe a third. Also to review the comps, they are on the official report, and challenge any you do not agree with. Like I said this happened to me too and the first guy cut my valuation to half what it should have been, should I also automatically assume ràcism? I’ve also seen this happen all the time, where ràce wasn’t a factor at all, just a lowball first appraiser.
@@GhostSal both situations can happen and in most cases appraisals are fine but in the last 20 years and recently their have been high profile cases taken to court and it has judged to have been racism. It doesn’t happen often but it does happen more than people think.
@@chrisaycock5965 I want to add, yes there can be rácist individuals, my point is wildly different appraisals isn’t uncommon and rácism shouldn’t be automatically assumed. I’ve also experienced rácísm from all other tàces too but that doesn’t mean I assume ràcism because I’ve experienced it from this or that ràce (after all people are individuals and not all the same).
As far as going to court, in general I don’t trust the outcome in those types of court cases at all, way too much bias and personal predetermined beliefs in that system. How could they possibly know if something was ràcíst in those cases? They have to get a large number of appraisals to build any type of statistical analysis (hundreds of comps to compare, on the same home). Other than someone admitting they’re a ràcíst, the only thing they could prove is incompetence.
Saw a similar problem like this with an interracial couple (husband/white, wife/black). Their home reflected a bi-racial family (pics, decor, etc.), so when it was appraised it came in under value. Someone gave them the idea to change the look completely and have just the husband showcase the home. When they did this, I believe the appraisal was 5xs more than the first one. This type of treatment should be criminal.
Sending love to this wonderful couple. All the best for a successful case. My profound sympathy for your illness and wishing you a speedy recovery and long life of continuous love and happiness. God bless ❤
Wow both are PhD certified, a professor in history (wrote a 3-time award-winning book that references jim crow south and the infrastructure of for-profit oppression), and Dr. Shani is a lecturer at JHU. Accomplished, educated, obviously driven, and caring people (not even to mention Dr. Shani's cancer, so many blessings to her). Baltimore has seen a home value increase of 13.8% in the last year alone! In the past five years since they've purchased, they've increased by more than 42%!! This should be criminal. Trying to defraud and with racially fueled motivation try to undervalue a Black family's home by 300k???????? They could have used that for her medical care, and like they said their children's future, and let alone those reasonings and just the fact that this couple has achieved their PhDs, and work as teachers at one of the highest regarded most prestigious universities and invested in real estate and they deserve to see the full accurate return of the investment they made with money they made from prestigious jobs that are actually contributing to education, the future, and the world.
Awesome thank you for your professional well written comment.🙏🏾🌹
That’s exactly what this is, fraud! They tried to defraud the black family out of $300,000 and it’s sickening. This should be criminal!
Just a small sample of the institutional oppression that has hampered non whites even after it was declared ...we hold these truths to be self evident...that all men are equal...
I had a similar experience trying to sell a home. Didn't get the expected amount of offers initially, and took down all photos and essentially "white washed" my home. Received multiple offers above asking price afterwards. This is a common problem that isn't frequently discussed. As blacks, we just have to understand how to play the game. These issues aren't going away antime soon.
💯 agree. Play the game until the game change. Maybe another 1000 years when we change into a complete different society. Not in our life time
Agree. Have to learn to play the game and when in doubt, sue the company that discriminated.
Preach! Let’s not get mad. Let’s play the game but be silent about it!
Sad part this isn’t a game it’s our lives. So many just simply don’t care,
it’s recommended when selling a home to take down all photos for this very reason
This is prime example of systematic racism and why the wealth gap is so big
This is dispicable... this wonderful couple... full of intelligence and dignity....having to deal with such underhanded and criminal activity
1. despicable
2. how do you know their a wonderful couple ?
@@rebukeme their is not they're.... and i can tell... well educated... doctors... obviously intelligent and not overly angry... why do you think they are not ?
@@betheldarren why is she bald tho?
@@betheldarren and no their shows ownership over a property which is why i used it in this case as they are black
@@rebukeme bald due to a medical condition that they explain and no... their is not correct no matter what ignorant logic you try to use... hahaha ... nice try though...
Imagine being hated, for something God blessed you with. Smh this country is SICK!!
More like something u can’t help.
Blacks are the originals. The hatred from some white people is insane! Most white people only fight the black race. I have never understand that.. why are the focus on blacks? What are they afraid of?
@@lexieliu5339 "blessing" sounds a lot nicer.
Melanin, humans only natural defense against the blazing sun!!!
Very sick, as well as demonic and unnatural.
Wouldn’t devaluing something like that be more like felony fraud.
It should be because it's a market manipulation.
Woulda-coulda-shoulda
It is a civil lawsuit, not a criminal case.
@@RaymondHng I know. But the actions sound criminal.
@@MrShowtime1k It is a civil offense, not a criminal offense. It will be settled out of court or it will go to court for a judge in a civil court to decide for compensation. There is no prison term to be served by the respondent.
Apparently Shani Mott passed away today (a friend sent me a text about it). I did not know them at all (though there is a sort of six degrees of separation between myself and her husband (we share an advisor)) but I pray for peace for their entire family.
And sending you much healing dear......may you be all better soon.🤩
I remember a couple in the San Francisco area with this same issue. They had a white friend in their house whilst the second appraisal was done, and had the exact same outcome. This ought be a criminal offense. I wonder if this lovely couple can sue? Prayers for her health. 💜
Discrimination is very hard to prove. That's why it's so insidious. There are fields of study on how people's unconscious biases and a history of racism can lead to negative outcomes for minorities, but certain states, like Florida, are trying to outright ban those discussions in schools. That's the real crime.
I remember that clip. I believe the husband was black and wife was latina. They were screwed out of the appraisal that in less which should've been more. Ultimately, they missed out on the LOW RATE (is that correct?).
A couple in Jacksonville FL had this happen to them. They whitewashed it and the appraisal increased also.
I would expect this to happen in FL, but not SF.
You're only hearing if this because black folk may feel offended when this happens. I'm in real estate and this happens to white folks too..but white folks and many smart and educated in real estate blacks folks contest the appraisal..not get another one and white wash their house. Or just don't get the loan. Period. There's a great appreciation for an honest appraisal that won't leave us upside down in loans on a home that's not worth it..
This isn't a race issue..it's a toss up between appraisals. Grab a few more..they will ALL be different!
And yes. They can be a huge difference of hundreds of thousands of dollars! No joke. I had a realtor give me a 130,000 difference on a lot! She said 35, I said 165. My lot sold a week later. And we're both white. What would I do if I was black? Nothing. She's a dumb realtor and I know better. THAT'S the step you take.
The white guy across the street from me years ago listed his house with an agent for under a hundred thousand less than I told him to list it for. He thought the agent knew better. And he sold it right away. And I sold mine for two hundred thousand more than his, right after he left. We are all white. His house was bigger and had more bathrooms and a brand new roof.
This man is a PhD at JOHN HOPKINS for God's sake. His diploma itself already worth more than that whitewashing appraised value.
They both are actually!
No, not yt folks. They don't care how educated you are or how much money you make they still don't want you to be successful and will do almost anything to keep you from moving forward.
Adil Hakim Racist only see skin and god forbid we make up to the east side .Then their racism turns to jealousy which just another word for racism !!
@@joejacko1587 It's so low because of racists like you Joe GoJackOff or maybe you prefer Joe Jackass. I don't know any black person who cares about who owes a house if they like the home and are interested in purchasing it. Maybe that's you white folks so speak for yourself.
@Carrie Good what POC do you know that cares about anything a non- POC does either than bother them ? No one cares about a white persons achievements - what’s the benefit?
This COUPLE lost sooo much-all due to IGNORANCE. Someone needs to be held responsible.
It happens to women also. When we bought our home I was the one working. My husband had become injured seriously. We found a home and they made it very difficult. I wanted a 15 year loan they said no you are a woman. Ask for 20 again no. Finally after going through hoops they gave me a 30 year loan. So agreed to it as long they agreed to no penalty if I paid it off early. Well the mortgage company agreed with a smirk from the loan officer. In fact the loan officer said he doubt I could pay it off early. So I got the house and paid it off short of thirteen years. The last laugh was mine.
This is such a disgusting memory that this family will have on their minds for a while. To both be Doctors, to own a beautiful home, to think you made it and then you are reminded of the country you live in. Long live the USA
Listen to The Story of O.J. by Jay Z.
Well typically it's what the appraisal companies/ banks / insurance companies do , due to statistics. Statistically black neighborhoods have higher crime, and do not take care of their neighborhoods ect. Obviously these people that experienced this would be amazing neighbors & an asset to their communities.
@@WarmongerYT , this is an unbelievably asinine statement. Appraisals are done typically this way due to statistics? Then you doubled down on your bigoted ignorance by saying typically black people don't take care of their neighborhoods? You sound like the typical irrevocable racist.
An honest, non-criminal appraisal should never be based on the race of the owner. It should be based on the size and physical condition of the subject property and the recent sale prices of similar properties in same area.
If the racist, criminal appraiser had done an honest or competent job he would not have come up with such a false number. It tells you that he arbitrarily picked a number based on his level of hate for black people. He was using one of the usual tools that are employed to screw black people over.
These are the kind of incidents that remind you that as long as people of his ilk exist racism will never ever die.
@@WarmongerYT And if this joke wasn't in a black neighborhood, what would your next excuse be?
@@WarmongerYT Racial statistics are purposely misleading! You ppl and your indoctrinated stereotypes are the problem!
This is shameful. Hurtful and disrespectful. How dare people be like this. Racism is so wrong! My heart goes out to them and their children.
Life in 'Murica where racism is the norm and accepted. I still will never understand how Black people can vote for Democrats. At least the Republicans let you know they hate you to your face
Reparations are for much more than slavery.
Same but without the fake last sentence.
@@MisterHeroman Another racist. Cancelled. There is no such thing as the master race
@@MisterHeroman
Is it really fake or is kindness and sympathy so rare nowadays that that led you to jump to the conclusion that they were faking? 🤔
This happened to me too, this is not a brand new thing, this happens every day but a lot of people who have a little bit of money, think they’re better than other Black people, and we should focus on the racism that we all encounter every day because you’re rich or poor you should never be discriminated against, thank you for sharing
I had the same experience. A year after an appraisal when prices when up, my home appraised for less.
Praying for Dr. Shawnie's health & her husband. Can you imagine dealing with this & having to trust doctors or anyone now? This is so traumatic & sad. She should've been focusing on her health rather than dealing with this racism.
Yes. Trust in doctors and the healthcare system based on receiving equal care and treatment... an entirely separate conversation. Blessings to this family.
Everything can be racist if you have a victim mindset.
one of many reasons why we as black ppl need to collectively work to build our own.
@@yusifamda build your own what ?
@@10pct2_the_big_guycommunity, schools, police departments, banks, and etc
This happens to me pretty regularly in Montréal, Canada. The most recent incident for me was when I got approved for an apartment I wanted. The owner checked my credit score, then my employment etc, approved me in less than 48hours. Then we set a date for me to go sign the contract, checkout the space in person and set a moving date, (I did online tour and application). So anyway, the guy’s friendliness dried up as soon as he opened the door. He had been so gracious the entire process online and on the phone.
He barely wanted to show me the space, and he tried to offer me the freaking attic room to rent! I told him I’m here to sign the lease for the original space online. He told me some BS and set a different date to sign the papers. When I called later to follow up, my number was blocked. I couldn’t reach him. I sent a message on the posting (it was still up) and no response.
Discrimination is rampant in Canada too. This came from a fellow POC, he was Asian, I’m black.
Why don't you go back to africa then?
Lesson #1:
There’s no “fellow” POC.
Very interesting. I’m so sorry.
Fellow POC? You mean non-white. Ive never met a person of Asian background in Canada who considers themselves a POC. Im sure the vast majority of them would want nothing of the sort. What happened to you is not fair but it should serve as a wakeup call that ALL races discriminate and that all people can be racist, not only white people.
@@DLewis-kt9ok 🎯
GOD Bless her. We are praying for her, Mrs. Connelly's, health and prosperity. I would like to hear more from them. They are DEFINATELY a Power Couple! #GOALS
What a powerful family! May your health improve Ms. Connelly
I lost my wife to cancer. Stay strong and only deal with positive people. I will pray for you and your family.
Sorry about your lost. May Her Soul Rest In Peace.
Sorry about your wife. May she RIP.
What does that have to do with the topic? Because they are black and you are white and you hate the attention they got so you decide to make up a story about the “passing” of your wife. #FOH
praying for you also
Are you Kip from Napoleon Dynamite movie?
I really hate this. These are obviously very decent upstanding people. I hope that these appraisal companies are prosecuted to the fullest! Prayers for you and you and your family dear ❤️ Lady.
You actually believe this nonsense 🙄
@@moneymanifestation9505 And what's the truth based on your investigation? F*cking troll
@@moneymanifestation9505 It's funny that you don't but we know racism is not real to some people.
They are both professors!!!
@@jerudella8236 the story isn't real
These two are beautiful people. I hope they see all the prosperity in the world and that Dr. Shani’s health endures
The open market doesn't discriminate period. Homes aren't racist. Appraisals mean nothing. My partner flips homes. My mother was an appraiser for 10 yrs and my stepfather a real estate agent most of his life. If you don't know what your home is worth, ballpark, maybe you don't deserve a home.
Appraisals mean nothing? 🙄
These two nice people each have PhD’s! I’m so disappointed that we are still not dealing with everyone equally. We all need to do better. This isn’t acceptable. I’m sorry that they had to have a colleague show their home to get the true value of their BEAUTIFUL HOUSE. I mean, it is stunning! To get the first appraisal back at such a lowball figure is disgusting. She’s dealing with health issues and does not need this type of discrimination. She needs love, positivity and obviously MONEY as insurance companies tend to deny trials.
I’m glad that they brought this out and named names! Call out the racists so we know who not to give our business to.
Be well, doctors.
Soon.
Did you seen what they were wearing in the picture shown? They were dressed like poor people and the appraiser lowballed them that hard because he thought he could get away with it the same way he get's away with everyone.
@@ww-pw6di just propaganda-- pulling emotions of people walking carnally.
@@ww-pw6di Pitiful excuse! Who raised you?You have no honor.
It happened to me too. I live in Finland, am Nigerian and married to a Finnish man. When we bought our first home, it was sold fast within 3 days by an indian with my pictures on the wall. After living in our New home for 6 years, we decided to sell because My family is expanding. We tried selling for 2 years wondering why not sold fast, good location and all, potential buyers coming alot. If we final find anyone who is willing to buy, they bring down the value of the house so bad. So I thought to myself, what is really going on until I figured out that I have to remove pictures of me in the house. My husband thought it was silly of me to do that then I told him ”watch now it will sell fast”. That same day I removed the pictures we had good offer and we sold it fast. Its sad for blacks to feel that the value of our property is not valueable enough.
This is such an awful, sad story.......so clear they were discriminated against......I hope they get justice!!!
I’m so proud of you for speaking up. I’m a realtor in Arkansas. Your house looks really nice in a nice neighborhood. Praying for your health! So my take on this is that a lie needs to have some truths for it to be believable. Shame on appraisal to come in so low. Fortunately, you’re able to caught on so quickly. I think since you had a lost in the low interest rates, this should be taken to court and you should have compensation for it. Lastly, you’re a beautiful couple and assumingely, your children as well. Continue to spread truth and God bless us all.
The fact these folks can still smile and laugh about it is a testament to their humanity and integrity.
It's America.
I've seen too many white folks act shocked when stuff like this becomes public. Black folks have been going through hell in this racist country for centuries. Claiming to be surprised or ignorant is lame at this point.
trust me they're angry asf on the inside....
Trust me they are getting paid more than the value of the home for their time
@@stoicstudent6116 GFYSASAP
I hope they win and let it serve as a warning to others who discriminate in this field also she is in my prayers 🙏🏿
Why bring more black life in this world or country to be exploited? Don't you fix everything first, then have kids?
oh yes! You poor down trodden 13%! You’re absolutely right you can’t do it on your own we must give you a lot of things even then you will not succeed but we must give it to you. Your black so if you commit crimes with to give you a pass. Your black so you’re supposed to get everything for free from my heart as a white person I want to apologize you pour down trodden discriminated black people. Will you ever forgive whitey???
I guess this is not new news. We were told the same thing back in the 90s when we sold our house. Blonde haired agent walked us through it, no family pictures, no magazines, don't even be home during showings, he would handle everything. We made 60k so it worked.🤷🏽♀️
This is America.
@@johndear1592
No, WE continue to live in spite of the obstacles and opposition WE face.
WE NEVER let adverse situations dictate OUR desire to be PROGRESSIVE.
This is why CRT has to be told
Cheers from west Africa
🦅
Very similar situation happened to me when trying to get my home appraised to sell by a white realtor. Ended up not using this particular realtor as homes around me were selling for much higher price than mine was being appraised at. I live in a prominently white neighborhood and the realtor assumed based on my dark hair color and married last name that I was Mexican when actually I am white! Just married to a Mexican. I feel for this couple and thank you for sharing your story. It is still so sad that in 2022 we continue to face racism!
I'm suprised he was suprised.
There should be severe felony penalties for companies that give BS home appraisals.
Where's BLM, KAMALA, and BIDEN'S rage about this?
I agree and that actually is a Great Way to Stop other overly eagar whites to pull stunts like this on black people
@@mranton2090 how do know they aren't already looking into it?
Sounds like they had a accurate appraisal, then wanted someone to give a inflated appraisal which in turn caused them to pay higher interest rate🙃. No evidence the company was racist or anything along those lines, but there is lots of evidence the couple are racists.
coming from the username agirlyman lmfaoooooo
$700K is still even low for their part of town so a $400K estimate is incredibly fishy. Sad but interesting fact, the Roland Park Corporation, in the same city, pioneered exclusionary housing covenants in the 1920s and 1930s even before Levittown, barring black and Jewish people from the neighborhood which impacts fair housing to this day.
Facts. I’m glad they’re suing and I send them love vibes to have the strength to go through her health trial.
This is just sad for America and black people, in general.
I wish nothing but the best for this beautiful lady’s health. I’m currently dealing with life threatening issues so I somewhat understand what she’s going through. I wish you and your family the best my lady.
I wish you the best as well, Sir.
Wishing you the very best
You're in my prayers
@@riannonbrown1658 Thank you...
@@rocked30 no thanks needed please take care of yourself
The look on the husband's face at the 7:50 mark shows how impacted he is by his wife's statement about wanting to stick around for a lot longer (made me a bit teary hearing her describe her illness). And to boot, they have to be dealing with all this BS with the structural racism in real estate. Ugh! I hope she recovers, and that they are able to sue the hell out of them.
Right?!? I hope she recovers from this. Such a lovely couple.
I would love to have this family living next store. Best wishes on a full recovery.
Wow, I can’t believe this is still happening in our society. Im sorry this is happening. So disgusting…
It’s frightening how these types of discrimination have been the slowest to improve. Discrimination isn’t just name calling and hurt feelings, it can massively impact people’s livelihood!
To this couple, I’m so sorry that this happened but I’m glad you are speaking up! Hope this trial goes well for you too ♡
A hug thank you for them speaking up, speaking out and bringing awareness to the black community. I didn't know that this type of discrimination existed. This is disgusting behavior towards my race.
It's systemic oppression...
🤷♂️ I mean maybe you people should focus on things like this instead of looting, rioting and tearing down statues. That’s literally a modern day example of why the value would drop for black people. They are more likely to burn their own homes down in protest 😂
America 🇺🇸
This is the systemic racism many deny exist.
i need people like this around me. I love my people.
yes, these are educated black people but more importantly they are self aware!
I love my white people👍🏻
@@chrismartin5450 demons love each other because all demons are wicked so love away paleface.
Yah these are the Type of black people most don’t mind moving in next door problem is it rarely is this type
@@BillyBob-op6lg People like you are dying out, and its happening quickly. You can feel the pull of extinction can't you? Enjoy your short time while it lasts, we wont miss you
I would not stop until I settlement is reached... disgraceful... my prayers and love to this lovely lady and her family 🙏🏽❤️ interesting how the news reader didn’t show no kind of slight emotion...
praying for her healing this situation has caused more stress