4. The Chopin Method: the fingers

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  • @nintendianajones64
    @nintendianajones64 Рік тому +3194

    "Chopin is the greatest of them all, for with the piano alone he discovered everything."
    - Claude Debussy

    • @captainp.2721
      @captainp.2721 Рік тому +95

      Chopin was amazing, but wasn't the greatest, far from it. The greatest, was and still is Beethoven. The man composed the most incredible pieces in history with hundreds on instruments and parts WHILE DEAF. That qualifies him as above all his contemporaries.
      And this is not an opinion, it is divine fact.
      I would also put Liszt in front of Chopin in skill.

    • @ghonneriajones8212
      @ghonneriajones8212 Рік тому +143

      i love the bussy too

    • @joaquindalessio
      @joaquindalessio Рік тому +102

      @@captainp.2721 Absolutely, but in the piano world, Chopin rules...

    • @bait5257
      @bait5257 Рік тому +16

      @@captainp.2721 I would say bach
      And beethoven himself would agree

    • @Swissen
      @Swissen Рік тому +13

      @@captainp.2721 Hear hear, Beethoven is unrivalled on the piano. Chopin in fact had a bust of him upon his piano.

  • @DJLane214
    @DJLane214 Рік тому +3983

    If You learn this technique at a young age, you can literally become a classical pianist. It literally links your brain to your fingers like a wifi signal. Feels like I have Violet Evergarden's hands. This is crazy!

    • @injeolmi6
      @injeolmi6 Рік тому +102

      I hope I am not too late to learn!

    • @jilianneakianiceto6408
      @jilianneakianiceto6408 Рік тому +35

      is below 13 a not too shabby age?

    • @pelikanflyeralseinehandels8952
      @pelikanflyeralseinehandels8952 Рік тому +78

      @@jilianneakianiceto6408 that's the perfect age to learn this!! your brain will adapt to this and learn it insanely fast!

    • @azearaazymoto461
      @azearaazymoto461 Рік тому +56

      What technique? The part where you let your finger fall on the keys?

    • @momentsoftriumph5972
      @momentsoftriumph5972 Рік тому +3

      @Tony B I enjoy Huberman’s podcast. Do you happen to have an idea the name of the episode you’re referring to?

  • @markdomanico7936
    @markdomanico7936 9 місяців тому +638

    As a guitar player, I found this video fascinating. The idea that we should not train our fingers to simply
    be equal, but lean into their unique voices is beautiful.

    • @thechopinmethod7257
      @thechopinmethod7257  9 місяців тому +57

      Sorry for the late reply Mark. Yes! In the beginning I was surprised by the number of guitar players who are interested in this channel. But now it makes sense. There are substantial neuromuscular differences between playing both instruments, of course, but searching for similarities makes you ask great questions. Thank you for commenting.

    • @HieuPham-gc4jd
      @HieuPham-gc4jd 7 місяців тому

      Great ❤

    • @traeza777
      @traeza777 6 місяців тому

      Yeah guitar actually teaches you to use each finger individually... One because each string has a different tensile strength...and feel

    • @Shnazzleboxxin
      @Shnazzleboxxin 4 місяці тому

      Fucking same dude. Same.

    • @chaosinsurgency6636
      @chaosinsurgency6636 Місяць тому

      Finger style is dead i guess

  • @Robopup325
    @Robopup325 Рік тому +1411

    Chopin, also known as the final boss for most players. I love his music but I have hardly any time to practice with life going on, so I often end up giving up on learning his pieces because I end up making so little progress it’d take way to long to get to the final.

    • @bb2501_
      @bb2501_ Рік тому +67

      i started with chopin 💀

    • @sciaj
      @sciaj Рік тому +39

      no that s how you re supposed to do it
      he s a life long piano teacher
      5 min learn an extra chord in a month that s 30 chords that d be a solid chunk of the total song

    • @za-mm
      @za-mm Рік тому +43

      rachmaninoff is the final boss💀

    • @user-xt4dx7ky3c
      @user-xt4dx7ky3c Рік тому +35

      @@za-mm nah it’s Liszt

    • @marcraider
      @marcraider Рік тому +19

      @@user-xt4dx7ky3c nah is Bach, I prefer to play and suffer (in the good way )any Lizst work instead of those crazy fugues written by J.s.B.

  • @borkovitch5227
    @borkovitch5227 Рік тому +244

    As an intermediate piano player, I've played a couple of Chopin pieces and i feel like they always 'feel' good to play.
    The the hands match the piano and the piano matches the hands in a natural way.
    Maybe its because of Chopin's theory of not going against nature but being in harmony with it?

    • @thechopinmethod7257
      @thechopinmethod7257  Рік тому +39

      Hello Oscar. Yes! Chopin's technical approach uses Nature as its ally. Thank for commenting.

  • @rinoceronte1
    @rinoceronte1 Рік тому +616

    Chopin was a genius. if you understand this, your entire approach to technique will change. that's why slow practice is so important. it allows you to be able to quickly recognize what sort of intricate movement is needed from all the fingers, entire hand, and arm, just to play a set of 3 notes. of course, at high speeds all this intricate minute movements cannot be seen. only the chef knows what's in the soup. mean while the spectators think the pianist is gifted, or a genius.

    • @igorz3551
      @igorz3551 10 місяців тому +3

      Love this comment

    • @waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3
      @waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3 9 місяців тому +2

      I’m a cellist and not very good at piano so idk about that, but on the cello I can only play quickly because I know what to do slowly

    • @jeremydm7646
      @jeremydm7646 9 місяців тому +9

      @@waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3 it applies to most instruments, When practicing fast you could develop muscle memory but wouldn't be aware of what notes you may be playing compared to playing slowly

    • @aviation8168
      @aviation8168 9 місяців тому +2

      Unfortunately i don't actually understand this
      I would love to, but i can't

    • @tatianaes3354
      @tatianaes3354 7 місяців тому +2

      *THE ATTITUDE might change,* but if you do not have a natural talent, you can learn to play only well enough to enjoy it yourself. This is already good enough for many, but not those who dream of fame within the classical music industry.

  • @drmichaelshea
    @drmichaelshea Рік тому +308

    I am fascinated by this. I am a senior self-taught pianist with no talent but lots of interest. I have had some very challenging movement problems with my right hand that I originally ascribed to a focal dystonia, but I no longer believe that’s the case. Now I think the problems are mechanical, not neurological. Sometimes I have thought it would be useful to really study the biomechanics of the piano, but really do not have the time or the right medical training for that. Now, out of the clear blue, this video has popped onto my screen. All of this must be written somewhere, but I’ve never been able to find it. Exercises are good, but intelligent exercises are far better. In my own case, I have found that slow and deliberate practice is far more helpful than I ever imagined it would be. Now I think with sorrow how I used to be criticized for slow playing when I tried learning the piano. Another discovery that is contrary to what I taught is that watching my hands during slow play also makes practice far more productive. If there are resources regarding the biomechanics of playing the piano, I’d love to know about them. Not that I hope to gain much personally (I’m 73), but because knowing this might help some younger learner.

    • @thechopinmethod7257
      @thechopinmethod7257  Рік тому +84

      Hello Dr. Michael. Thank you for commenting. Slow, deliberate and technically correct if I may add! Unfortunately, the scientific method in piano teaching is worrisomely scarce. Not even Chopin's insights were able to prevent the dominance of the popular piano concert, which requires a different technique and piano technology. 73 is relatively young in nowadays standards, and the brain is a very plastic thing at all ages. Hopefully you will continue your technical improvement. Warm regards!

    • @kitora8885
      @kitora8885 Рік тому +6

      talent is overrated

    • @krazykanos98
      @krazykanos98 Рік тому +25

      73 is young as ever! The only limitations exist in your mind, so play on, my friend!

    • @amezcuaist
      @amezcuaist 8 місяців тому

      @@thechopinmethod7257 Hello Dr Michael One great help in my past has been the Cowling Institute system for finger agility . If you combine these valuable exercises for finger independance and then combine with the Chopin method you will be far better equipped .The Cowling Institute is Free on the internet . Enjoy them together I used this for violin and my left hand is much better than my right .

  • @TommenIBaratheon
    @TommenIBaratheon Рік тому +149

    Chopin opened the world of finger technique over 30 years ago when I was only 6 years old, and my grandmother showed me how Chopin utilized the piano.

    • @thechopinmethod7257
      @thechopinmethod7257  Рік тому +17

      Congratulations JBS for having such wonderful grandmother. Glad to know that you have developed a good finger technique!

  • @DJLane214
    @DJLane214 Рік тому +228

    This instantly fixed my hand speed and my staccato. My hands can fly over the keys now! Time to practice scales. Thank You and Chopin!!

    • @thechopinmethod7257
      @thechopinmethod7257  Рік тому +25

      Wonderful!

    • @roxiethecockapoo1138
      @roxiethecockapoo1138 9 місяців тому +4

      @@thechopinmethod7257 I'm a bit confused as to what you mean when you say your fingers should 'drop' onto the piano. As in, they fall of the key after it is played, or is the wrist simply more relaxed or flexible?

    • @Frederic_Francois_Chopin
      @Frederic_Francois_Chopin 8 місяців тому +5

      You are welcome

  • @LenaSin
    @LenaSin 10 місяців тому +46

    Not everyone can play Chopin. His music and technique are brilliant. Only very gifted pianists can play as soulfully as Chopin. Now there are many pianists who technically play fast, but how little soul there is.

  • @nagi3854
    @nagi3854 Рік тому +280

    Wow! I was just reading today letters from Chopin to his students on posture and such, and to come across this channel immediately after is amazing. Not to mention the great editing and presentation, thank you and I hope to see this channel grow.

    • @rproctor83
      @rproctor83 Рік тому +8

      Google is definitely tracking your searches

    • @cecilsproject6796
      @cecilsproject6796 Рік тому

      Where dis you find thèse please?

    • @purpleAiPEy
      @purpleAiPEy Рік тому +5

      @@cecilsproject6796 Chopin, pianist and teacher. It is a great book and no doubt vital for this video

    • @Supermoneygang12
      @Supermoneygang12 6 місяців тому +1

      lol it’s not that crazy man google owns the algorithm

  • @JaeMaaroufi
    @JaeMaaroufi Рік тому +89

    I never thought that a piano can reach to a degree of details like this.
    Will be extremely helpful.

  • @SaltedMallows
    @SaltedMallows 21 день тому +2

    Best Fingering tutorial on YT

  • @MrPhatcat98
    @MrPhatcat98 3 місяці тому +5

    Ergonomics and an understanding of biomechanics/anatomy is an under-appreciated aspect of all musical endeavors. Excellent video!

  • @nijiiro2134
    @nijiiro2134 Рік тому +76

    Having not heard of this hand/muscle theory before, it’s kind of blowing my mind. Now it’s making me think much more about HOW I play instead of just making the piano sound like another piano in a recording

  • @99centfrog68
    @99centfrog68 Рік тому +4

    this is incredibly helpful! it always excites me to understand more about the composer’s true intentions. thank you!

  • @Akyo_Az
    @Akyo_Az Рік тому +108

    Thank you so much for these lessons, it helps self-taught pianists like myself a ton and shows how important relaxation is and how to achieve it. Much love from Brazil!

  • @dedos-pima
    @dedos-pima Рік тому +7

    Very interesting and informative. I don't play piano, but as a guitarist, the information is absolutely "need to know" primarily for the left hand, but also useful in right hand technique.

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 Рік тому +1

    Merci, an excellent presentation on the biomechanics of the hand and fingers. I have to smile at the opening biomechanical movments of your "players".

  • @gaelgarcia7000
    @gaelgarcia7000 Рік тому +1

    What and amazing explanation of the anatomic and mechanical factors on why certain fingers on a particular piece

  • @Song
    @Song Рік тому +7

    Love how many different fascinating ways musicians convey emotions

  • @WastedTimeBros
    @WastedTimeBros Рік тому +5

    brilliant videos just finished watching all of them. finding many applications to all sorts of arts. i am not a piano player yet but in simply understanding the relationship an artist has with their tools, and the importance of understanding more deeply how to command said tools effectively, you can have a much deeper connection with your expression.

  • @manriro4283
    @manriro4283 Рік тому +11

    I don't even play piano, bit your teaching abilities kept me captivated all through, keep up the good work man!

  • @RaptorT1V
    @RaptorT1V Рік тому +7

    Your videos are very valuable! Thank you for all your hard work! It is a great contribution to the teaching of the piano arts!

  • @stevef.8041
    @stevef.8041 Рік тому +35

    I am only a self-taught beginner, and it's great to see that I am experiencing the same type of finger comparisons you describe on this video. I'll stop blaming my fourth finger for it's lack of strength.

    • @thechopinmethod7257
      @thechopinmethod7257  Рік тому +18

      Recent neuromuscular studies suggest that the 4th finger weakness may be a mind trick. The 4th may be slower to flex and extend, but there is no anatomical reason for it to be weak. Thanks for you comment!

  • @haroonnaz4091
    @haroonnaz4091 11 місяців тому +4

    Everything we're talking and learning about is a gift of God!

  • @wijnextrawaalwijk9434
    @wijnextrawaalwijk9434 Рік тому +3

    i'm a piano player myself and I did not know that the fingers of a hand are so special made as you explained, thankx for that. I'll pass this video to my musical friends. My best musical regards Joost Verhoeven. from the Netherlands.
    🎶🎹

  • @oresteszoupanos
    @oresteszoupanos Рік тому +2

    Brilliant videos, research, and animations! Thank you very much!

  • @swinginonthespiral8765
    @swinginonthespiral8765 Рік тому +14

    For each note, there are as many sounds as fingers in the hand

  • @gabrielcarpio5843
    @gabrielcarpio5843 Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much for sharing this marvel of curated knowledge

  • @Pesgueira
    @Pesgueira Рік тому +3

    Thank you for the video! Great content. I'm finally being able to retake my piano studies, and always on the lookout for interesting channels. Immediatly favorited.

  • @sandcastle2069
    @sandcastle2069 Рік тому +22

    I have played piano fot two days, except for two years training 50 years ago, and not touching a piano since. This video came up as recommended, and I understand why. It should be something every pianist should see.
    Chopin did what every dedicated craftsman does when he knows something so well there is hardly more to learn. They go and dig for more knowledge, knowing you are never finished learning. It is natural to speculate on the fingers role in music to perfect your playing.

  • @quesote20
    @quesote20 Рік тому +7

    This video is great, the animations, and the story background, plus the information. Also enjoyed it because I'm a Chopin fan myself. Thanks for the content ;)

  • @franzliszt9332
    @franzliszt9332 Рік тому +1

    Thank God you uploaded! I thought you were going to stop. You’re disseminating quintessential information for us all. Thank you.

  • @yardrail3432
    @yardrail3432 Рік тому +4

    Very interesting video.I enjoyed the illustrated explanations of how each finger functions relative to the hand and keyboard. I actually watched it three times because it was a lot to take in. Thanks very much for this presentation and best wishes from New Zealand.

  • @davidesguevillas
    @davidesguevillas Рік тому +3

    These videos are very informative and very well made!

  • @kyo8390
    @kyo8390 Рік тому +8

    an interesting video! as a pianist, i have never thought of my fingers with this much depth.

  • @HelderB
    @HelderB Рік тому +2

    Absolute and mesmerizing video.

  • @user-yq9bc5om4b
    @user-yq9bc5om4b 4 місяці тому +3

    На выпускном экзамене в музыкальной школе я играла одно из известных сочинений Шопена. Помню, как мне нравилась именно свобода пальцев рук, и насколько прекрасно звучала музыка. Я тогда не знала про метод Шопена, но сейчас, при просмотре вашего видео, я вспомнила все свои прежние ощущения... Повторюсь, именно в его произведениях ощущается эта свобода и индивидуальность каждого пальца. Больше нигде, ни в одном другом произведении других композиторов, я не смогла почувствовать этой лёгкости и раскрепощенности.

  • @stevarion1437
    @stevarion1437 Рік тому +2

    Amazingly informative!! Keep them coming

  • @theunknown6056
    @theunknown6056 Рік тому +3

    I can't wait for the next video, thank you Dr. Claudio very much for these preeminent tutorials.

  • @kangkyifilion9265
    @kangkyifilion9265 Рік тому +1

    Very well explained with historical example!

  • @emrekalis5831
    @emrekalis5831 Рік тому +2

    great video! very useful and well-made grafics

  • @jamesomale2913
    @jamesomale2913 Рік тому +2

    I like Chopin; I find this very educational. Thank you.

  • @mickyfranky
    @mickyfranky Рік тому +1

    Very well done. Congratulation. Looking forward to watch your other videos

  • @frankkeys92
    @frankkeys92 Рік тому +2

    A pleasure to meet you today, Claudio! Marvelous information on the topic.

  • @vsrajsdb80
    @vsrajsdb80 Рік тому +2

    Thanks a lot to U tube as well to this video Sir. Happy day.

  • @osmiridium
    @osmiridium Рік тому +1

    Fascinating video!

  • @jasonruff1270
    @jasonruff1270 Рік тому +6

    I know the chopin method, but it's just refreshing seeing someone teach it again

  • @ariari28639
    @ariari28639 Рік тому +4

    This is an incredibly helpful series, thank you!

  • @davoudshojaei7834
    @davoudshojaei7834 8 місяців тому +1

    This was great! thanks for posting

  • @maximilianotula9011
    @maximilianotula9011 5 місяців тому +2

    For us, the musicians, this type of research made by people centuries ago is the key to going forward and also to have better ways to express ourselves.

  • @taxondatrack
    @taxondatrack Рік тому +1

    A really interesting and enriching video, thank you.

  • @trevjr
    @trevjr Рік тому +1

    Completely fascinating!

  • @arepasexo
    @arepasexo Рік тому +1

    Interesting educational video. Thank You. When i get a piano i follow this learnings

  • @mauser2030
    @mauser2030 Рік тому +1

    Amazing! Thanks for this videos

  • @ordjk4797
    @ordjk4797 Рік тому

    Wow this is a very in depth video.
    I’ve never seen such a correlation 😮

  • @kuozhang3769
    @kuozhang3769 Рік тому +1

    very useful content, thanks for the subtitles!

  • @Jackson-lv1wm
    @Jackson-lv1wm 3 місяці тому +1

    this method changed my life. i’m a self thought pianist and i’ve been playing for three years now. I’ve only ever learned Chopin pieces (and i’ve been told i play them well), I wonder how they’ll sound now that I know this technique!!!

  • @Pastorwalrus
    @Pastorwalrus Рік тому +1

    Can't wait for the next one!! Subscribed!!

  • @dcmj3798
    @dcmj3798 Рік тому +1

    Insightful! thankyou!

  • @opp0site
    @opp0site Рік тому

    interesting look into chopin's thoughts! I've never looked at all into his personal life so this was a neat introduction

  • @mahditr5023
    @mahditr5023 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for the info. Very educational

  • @AronTheNpc
    @AronTheNpc Рік тому +2

    This channel is way too underrated! Love the video keep it up.

  • @seanwar5240
    @seanwar5240 Рік тому +1

    Perfect video
    Educational explanation
    Nice structure
    Informationally Accurate
    Super entertaining

  • @lucasvasconcelos5705
    @lucasvasconcelos5705 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for this video! Very insightful. Although I've learned more about the muscles of my hand, I still can't quite put the knowledge into practice because I'm self-learned and self-learning the piano and music theory but, like you wrote in the disclaimer, I should not try something different due to having backlash. Nonetheless, I thank you for the additional knowledge!

  • @italianv1nce18
    @italianv1nce18 Рік тому +1

    Very helpful, thank you

  • @boriswilsoncreations
    @boriswilsoncreations Рік тому +44

    This is one of the best UA-cam recommendations that I received so far. I didn't expect I would learn a lot about this today. Thank you :]

  • @nevermore3055
    @nevermore3055 Рік тому +4

    extremely underrated channel!!! this teaches so much!!!

  • @eenayeah
    @eenayeah Рік тому +1

    Excellent video! Learned a lot!

  • @sabmat5876
    @sabmat5876 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for posting such an informative video, loved watching it.

  • @mushifuwu4327
    @mushifuwu4327 Рік тому +8

    It is increadible how much I learned within 10 min of a video, I will make sure to teach this to someone one day.

  • @viveroz
    @viveroz Рік тому +1

    Awesome, thank you

  • @TwistedFireX
    @TwistedFireX Рік тому +1

    This video is just excellent.

  • @andreschoenfeld
    @andreschoenfeld Рік тому +1

    Wonderful - Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @ifthepianocouldtalk5255
    @ifthepianocouldtalk5255 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for such a remarkable video!

  • @lifenist772
    @lifenist772 4 місяці тому

    It's very helpful to me. Thank you 😊😊

  • @DeGrale.
    @DeGrale. Рік тому +1

    Excellent 👌🏻

  • @dmkingdg4779
    @dmkingdg4779 Рік тому +6

    Super insightful, I'm fascinated to find such great information! Keep educating

  • @cheesyingot7374
    @cheesyingot7374 Рік тому +1

    Thanks! This helped a lot! ❤

  • @imoapikunnoky
    @imoapikunnoky Рік тому +1

    Tysm! Now i know more about chopin!

  • @alienrobotcommando
    @alienrobotcommando Місяць тому +1

    Loved it!
    I never thought I'd see anything remotely to this in regards to music. 😊

  • @anibalcorreablanco6905
    @anibalcorreablanco6905 Рік тому +1

    Extraordinario muchas gracias !

  • @richamaca8144
    @richamaca8144 Рік тому +1

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  • @Roubainx
    @Roubainx Рік тому +1

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  • @pianoforks8607
    @pianoforks8607 Рік тому +1

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  • @droogtchekhova32
    @droogtchekhova32 Рік тому +1

    Thank you! Շնորհակալություն: It's very informative!

  • @mialando
    @mialando 6 місяців тому +1

    Finally someone to say it out loud. When I was learning piano with my professor, he would often note the fingers in the sheets. And I realized tht was not the way I was functionning.

  • @wadahabbasher
    @wadahabbasher Рік тому +1

    Incredible video, merci bcp

  • @ritoemiliosalazarruibal3272
    @ritoemiliosalazarruibal3272 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this video....

  • @heresy7266
    @heresy7266 Рік тому

    very informative!

  • @ericspianoschool
    @ericspianoschool Рік тому +2

    This series is amazing keep them coming!

  • @RhodesyYT
    @RhodesyYT Рік тому

    I am glad to have found this thank you

  • @jeanpensekoi2953
    @jeanpensekoi2953 5 місяців тому +1

    ´´Hidden´´ secrets from a final boss of classical music player… such an interesting video series. Great job mister. I like this. 👍🏽 🎹🎵

  • @trystor
    @trystor Рік тому +1

    Maravillosa lección.

  • @Marina.Hytovf
    @Marina.Hytovf 6 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for these lessons.

  • @paulromsky9527
    @paulromsky9527 Рік тому +13

    Wow! I never knew the 4th finger had a ligament to the 3rd and 5th. Knowing the bone, muscle, and ligament structure really helps. I like Chopin's method. Calling the 4th the siamese of the 3rd is brilliant. Sometimes my 5th finger goes way up off the keys - especially on turns and trills with the 2nd and 3rd finger, but watching your video I am bringing in the 5th finger closer to my body with a bit more curl and making it a temporary anchor, that helps. When I play trills with my 3rd and 4th, both my 2nd and 5th rise up... I hate that. I wish Chopin was here... I can see him slapping my fingers with a ruler every time they rose too high.

    • @thechopinmethod7257
      @thechopinmethod7257  Рік тому +4

      Thank you Paul. As you say, Chopin was quite a genius as a teacher, and piano biomechanics is really good for improving from within one's body. Something that you may consider while studying finger independence, is that neuromuscular plasticity is a slow and delicate process. Many pianists believe that the fingers need to be corrected "by force" (as if lifting weights at the gym), while the best approach is exactly the contrary. Best regards Paul!

    • @EleneDOM
      @EleneDOM Рік тому +2

      Slapping a student's fingers with a ruler would have been the opposite of Chopin's style of teaching.

  • @cathyd301
    @cathyd301 Рік тому +1

    love this channel !! hope you continue posting videos for a long time :)

  • @loukes116
    @loukes116 Рік тому +1

    fascinating!

  • @fredericchopin7538
    @fredericchopin7538 Рік тому +1

    Delightful!