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Awesome video man. I don't care what the other haters say, Love the new design and sleeper look is miles better than boy racer 10th with fake vents everywhere!
I just want the sedan to at least have the front fascia from the hatch; the normal one is not great. But the interior across the board is outstanding, so I'm looking forward to your thoughts on the Si!
I just purchased a 2024 Honda Civic Sport Touring in a manual transmission, and I absolutely love it!!! It drives amazingly and I am so glad that they offer the highest trim in the manual transmission. It was a very tough decision between the Mazda 3 premium hatchback with the manual, however, with the tech, all of the luxuries (turbo, parking sensors, better-looking wheels, and the size, are what really sold me. The back seat in the Mazda was very small even for shorter people. I love the amount of space this vehicle offers, not only the back seat, but the hatch as well is really good. This is the bread and butter of what a sporty sedan hatchback should be. No regrets!!
Great video and for sure this car is going to keep being great and being very popular. Can you PLEASE do a video on how dealerships are doing huge mark-ups and price gouging? These mark ups are getting so bad and we really can't let this just become the norm for car buying.
I love how Honda handles the redesigns. The two are totally different. It somehow doesn’t outdate the last gen but makes it so you can appreciate the two. Same with the accord
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH Yeah I hear you. But the turbo engine with the CVT combined create so much lag that it makes it borderline unsafe. The slingshot effect of going from too slow to too fast is actually dangerous. With the manual you can mitigate some of those effects by giving the engine more revs when you need it and then let off the gas and use engine break to slow you down once you're done accelerating. I suppose the paddle shifters can also help in that regard.
This all new Honda Hatchback is much more premium looking... and u can get a manual with the very top sport touring trim! It combines the touring and sport trims of the Civic! Best combo ever! ( And sofyan ... u have been doing reviews in and out for a long time... 12 days, like u said in Instagram and UA-cam as well! Good job, man!)
I bought an Elantra sport in 2018 with the DCT and turbo 1.6 (201hp 195 lb/ft)...discounted to $23,000 with blindspot, heated seats, sunroof. 0-60 in about 6.5 seconds. The Elantra sport and the Kia forte turbo models are such steals in this segment Surprised to see that not many people buy them!
@@Kizzle001 bro I noticed the same smell upon startup...ive asked the service department a bunch of times and they say i will have to leave the car for 2-3 days for them to diagnose it. Could you explain to a little more as to what that smell is?? please
@@basstheangelo That'll be the new Integra. Can't wait. Gonna be huge for Honda/Acura if done right. But it seems the base model will be a luxury SI hatch/liftback with the 1.5t, not confirmed, but seems super likely. And it should start in the low $30,000's
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I feel like this car is still growing on me. I still overall prefer the 10th gen but compared to when this car was first announced, I like it a lot more. Wondering what the 23 or 24 models will update or change.
I wasn’t a fan of the 10th gen look, especially those gaudy trim pieces on the back corners of the exterior. But, while I dig this, they might have dialed it back a little tooooo much. It’s a fine line. I’m sure people will do some rad stuff in the aftermarket world though.
@@Oozywolf i own a pre facelift 9th gen accord. I love the way this civic looks because thats what it reminds me of with more a sporty touch to it. Honestly in the future if i get tired of this accord I might look into this civic although im a big fan of rwd mid size sedan like a gs 350, 5 series, e class. Infinity q50 is not a bad car but its not better than any of its competition
Honda makes some sexy sedans/hatchbacks and they have great interiors but their SUV and truck line are horribly outdated and ugly as holy hell, especially the Pilot with it's interior taken from 2005. Hope Honda steps up their SUV game soon to better compete with Hyundai and even Toyota's newer, modern offerings.
Agreed. It seems that, over the past decade-plus, Americans wanting a manual have been squeezed (fewer trim levels, no leather, etc., and now this). But at least that grey pearl is hot.
8.5 to 60 is so slow. I love that Honda still gives the Civic a manual but that acceleration is very disappointing, only black interior and very few color choices are not great. Price is also really high. I hope the Si is a better value.
You're so right. Civic is too expensive and Honda dealerships are notorious for forcing you to pay for accessories to jack up the price well over MSRP. No thanks. I'd rather buy a Corolla.
I really love this spec and trim level. I can only imagine what a newer EG style 3 door hatch would have looked like! Manual transmissions are so awesome and I’m sad to see them going away. Are the Si and Type-R going to be manual also??
I have both. Mazda is my long time go-to. Always better looking, more fun to drive and just as reliable if you get one made in Japan, which this Civic is not.
I like this new civic, the interior is much nicer and the surfaces seem more High quality. I like the new screen placement too. The exterior is overall better too I think. The front end looks a bit off with the Honda logo sitting a little low I think, and also it resembling the accord front a lot. I don’t think it’s bad though and the rear end definitely looks much better especially the hatch taillights which I think is better than the sedan. Im excited to see the type r model, as I like the 10 th gen type r, but didn’t really like the rear end and some styling elements could have been improved a little.
Interesting they could make a tow hook-less bumper cover for this market, but not a tow hook-less tool kit tray, so we all get to wonder what is missing. The manual eats up half the console storage compared to the CVT.
That would make this the perfect Si 2.0 - with a few upgrades (power/stability and a Genuine Honda differential) this could be the Si for most people. And yes I know it’s a sport model with 1.5T making 180 but with mods we can get upwards of 230hp/190 torque
I think the honda marketing has made everyone forget that a mid trim civic costs as much as a base accord, or the top trim civic, costs as much as the mid trim accord. Think about it. The CIVIC starts at 22k. The Accord starts at 25k. That is only a 3k difference and if you are making payments anyway, that is only 50$ more a month at 5% interest. The moment you chose to go for the 1.5t engine (not the base 2.0) you are paying way over 25k. At this point, a camry se goes for 27k and the accord sport around the same, both of which are quicker, have better transmissions, etc. And if you want to go for the top trim civic it costs 30k, which costs as much as a base 2.0t accord sport at around 31k. Why would you buy a top trim civic over a 2.0 accord? No idea, idiots will be idiots. For comparison, the camry is a better buy at every price point, its about the same size interior wise, but it is wider, has an 8 speed over a CVT, and has more standard options. And the accord being only a few thousand more, is the better value than both, PERIOD. What honda doesn't want you to know is that when you buy the civic they make more money per vehicle. Similar price, less car. Think about it, THEY WANT YOU to buy the civic over the accord, because the accord/camry is the better value in every single way except one. You can buy the civic with a manual. That is about the ONLY bonus, sure, you can get a hatch too...but realistically, the enormous trunk in my Camry fits literally everything, including 10 4"x4" beams like it was nothing, and the accord is 2.5cuft bigger trunk wise. So is the civic a good car? Sure, if it cost as much as the older civics, aka, sub 20k. Otherwise, this overlaps way too much with the accord and camry for me to care. Your arguments? Its more fun to drive. Right...A car that has a cheaper chassis, cheaper suspension, narrower wheels, and has next to no power in the base engine and a detuned version of the accord base engine at the top? Okay guys. Ill take the 2.0t accord. The corolla is still the best value compact sedan, it starts at 20k, and usually is sold for far less than that.
You seriously put a Toyota Camry in the same sentence as a civic? 😆😆🤣🤣🤦♂️ wow… a Toyota Camry is just cheap tin can plastic on cheap wheels… comparing civic to accord though accord is better at the low end. High end it’s pricier
You are absolutely right. The $30000 price on the top trim civic is just ridiculous. Like you said, a smart person would prefer a 2.0t accord or if you like manual transmission, then a WRX base would be a more intelligent choice. More power and AWD. Overall the price increase on all new civic models make you think twice before you commit.
Well, while this is kinda true…the base model Accord has a shit sound system and is missing some features to make it worth the price IMO. The Camry SE is also dated, lacking features, and doesn’t even have push button start. And the tail lights are not LED like the XSE trim. So you can get the bigger car for a bit more money, but it’ll be dated and bare bones.
Better off buying a premium plus turbo mazda 3 AWD. 250hp and 320lb ft torque. Better interior too better exterior lighting quality and everything else
I own a 2016 Lexus ct200 h f-sport and this hatchback is growing on me, probably gonna consider getting this over a 2022 is 350 f sport. The price is just the biggest difference for me. And yeah honda has definitely stepped up their design game!
Air vents for the back? Why? I know this is available for the Corolla, but is there any data to show that Honda Civic Hatchback owners will be driving with rear passengers on a regular basis? Would rear air vents cool or heat the car more efficiently? Why is this important? BTW, this was a very good video. Thanks.
I just test drove a 22 civic sport hatch manual and omg the transmission is soooo much better than my 21 civic type r and that makes me extremely exited to how the new type r is gonna feel
I have a 2020 Civic Sport Hatch MT and am nearing the end of my lease, figuring out what to do next. Keep the 2020, go with a 2022 Sport MT, or try to preorder a 2023 Sport Touring MT. Wondering what you think about going from the 1.5T to the 2.0NA of the normal Sport? Would I be disapoointed? Should i go for Sport Touring?
One thing I don’t like about the rear is on the sedan sport model you get a visible tail pipe, but on the hatch is the fake ones. I would think they would have reversed it
@@SimonStrother Agreed, but unless you get the GLI, you will not have the same performances...And both the Jetta and Forte Gt look a thousand yime better...👍
First of all your the best been watching u for years, also when I'm thinking about buying an older car I refer to your older reviews. Si is coming out in the fall, but isn't fall already, come on Honda.
Just went at a 2022 Sonic Grey Pearl sport touring hatchback at a Honda dealer in Massachusetts. Msrp was $31,260. They added $4,000 market adjustment on top of that. Plus they only wanted yo give me $22k for my 2019 Kia Optima SX turbo with 25k miles (panoramic roof, red/black leather seats, heated/ventilated seats, etc….loaded). The lease was to be for 10k/year for 3 years, just start up fees at inception. With money factor of .00150, the monthly payment would have been $488/month and would not budge on anything. Needless to say I will be keeping my optima with only a $376 month payment for the foreseeable future. The civic looks great but not at $35k
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH To each his own. The 10th gen looked better to me….more aggressive and edgy. I’ll take that over a plain-Jane looking buttercookie any day of the week.
@@jimmypena2442 I like classy and stylish. Not ricey and gaudy. GTIs are a no go for me. This civic is way nicer looking. And bro you drive a bland Scion…wym I like bland?
@@SIIKAP1 the 9th gen looks like a retro EG to me I had a FB6 and a EG8 and when I parked them next to eachother I could see some inspiration in the design but I like where the new generation is headed I just hope they don’t make the accord look to similar
wondering the differences between genx vs sport touring manual vs this car. Drive wise and speed wise. Honda Canada gets more colours. If U don't buy manuals or at least look harder for one, you'll loose the option in a year or so - happy to see this review....good job
Yeah, well this isn't your grandpappy's Civic. It's loaded with refinement and tech. Adaptive cruise on a Civic and wireless charging, heated steering wheel and rear seats (in Canada). It's a few levels above the basic econobox that it used to be. It's also the size of an old Accord now.
The trick for honda to get a faster 0-100 speed is not to rev high in the first gear only rev to 3500 - 4000 rpm and shift to 2nd then rev it to 5.5 and shift to 3rd. its better accelerate that way
I think at 13:18, elapsed time, the engine is not a 'downgrade' as the video creator says. Maybe on horsepower output and torque, but the reliability and durability is better in the 2 liter (K20C2) with port injection over the smaller 1.5 turbo direct-injected (L15B7). That smaller engine has allowed fuel past the piston oil rings into the oil (crank case) and reduces the oil viscosity making it less beneficial to the engine lubricity. Sure 158 hp versus 180 is less, but I would prefer the larger engine for the life of the car over the 1.5 liter. One more thing: CVT's are the 'Androids' of transmissions. They are to be frowned up. If a driver didn't learn how to drive 'stick', their parents didn't love them enough. jk.
There must be some odd reason for it, because much more expensive cars do this. Like I had an E46 BMW, a 2004, and it had LED brake lights and turn signals. Today they're using incandescent for signals in most models. LEDs make drivers behind you process the signal better (scientific studies say it's the instant-on flash) so seems like a safety downgrade.
As a 10th gen Civic Si owner I don't mind it. However in Canada right now this car is $620/mnth in Ontario according to the online tool. The GTI Autobahn is $550. So uhh, ya there's that.
@@konos3951that's a lot.. I normally finance as I plan to keep my cars for a long time. Right now I'm doing $350/month for a 2020 corolla here in Canada for 5 years
@@alvinsimba734 Yup I agree. it is a an awful lot considering the level of performance between those 2 cars in particular. Currently I pay about $450/mnth for my '19 Si for 4 years. Spent about $850CDN for the Ktuner and TSP tune which has increased power by about 25hp but close to 70ftlbs more torque so basically makes what the Accord 2.0T motor made. I'll be happy with that for another 2 years but after that I'll be bored of it and will want something else. I put very little mileage on my cars and do get tired of them quite quickly (I'm normally able to get out of them at no additional cost after 3 years - so long as I stay with Honda) so thats primarily why I lease. I'm also a bit of a clean freak so my cars are always immaculate and not living in Toronto I don't have to worry about door dings or body damage nearly as much as folks who live in bigger cities.
Honestly can't wait for the Electric civic hatch. That little thing is gonna be so quick! Also, this gives me Crosstour vibes; my mom has a 2013, and it's the best car she has ever owned. I'm gonna try to get her into this or a type r 🤭🤭🤭 Edit: to be honest, if you're an enthusiast, and got the sport touring with the manual, wouldn't it make more sense to get a Type-R? Basically the same thing except the Type-R comes in one trim level lolol
I think only Honda or Toyota could bring wagons back to the US with the Camry, Civic, Accord, and Corolla nameplates. But it makes no financial sense to even try as they might not sale and of they do they will compete with their large crossover lineup. I wish the new Corolla cross was the Corolla wagon but just lifted up more like the Outback.
No oil-gas dilution problems, and no need to replace the turbo at 125K miles. The 2.0 liter will be more robust over the long term. It’s too bad they didn’t make it 2.4 liters and VTEC.
You can get the grey leather interior with the automatic, but only with Meteorite Grey or Platinum White--I think it would look great with Smoky Mauve, but inability to get an interior color and exterior color I like on the same car has been true of every Honda I've looked at for the last 40 years.
You compared this to the mazda3, saying that Mazda doesn’t offer turbo with the stick, however the stick on mazda3 comes with a more powerful NA engine than civic’s 1.5 (180hp/180lbft).
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It’s a 2 video kind of day! Again, we’d like to thank Keeps for sponsoring this video. Be sure to go to keeps.com/redline to get 50% off your first order. Next month, we’ll be driving the new Civic Si. Honda has all but confirmed it will continue to be just a sedan only, but you can sleep soundly because the regular hatch is very Si-Like minus the LSD!
Awesome video man. I don't care what the other haters say, Love the new design and sleeper look is miles better than boy racer 10th with fake vents everywhere!
Does it offer an auto rev match when you down shift like offered in the manual Toyota Corolla?
Do you think the Si sedan will be manual only? Do you think a DCT is possible? Or do you think they’d put DCT in the upcoming Acura Integra?
I just want the sedan to at least have the front fascia from the hatch; the normal one is not great. But the interior across the board is outstanding, so I'm looking forward to your thoughts on the Si!
Civic czy elantra??
Nice that Honda still makes compact and mid-sized sedans. SUV's have their place, but enough already with the SUV's.
Love seeing when embargos are lifted and there's a queue of car reviews ready to watch.
I just purchased a 2024 Honda Civic Sport Touring in a manual transmission, and I absolutely love it!!! It drives amazingly and I am so glad that they offer the highest trim in the manual transmission. It was a very tough decision between the Mazda 3 premium hatchback with the manual, however, with the tech, all of the luxuries (turbo, parking sensors, better-looking wheels, and the size, are what really sold me. The back seat in the Mazda was very small even for shorter people. I love the amount of space this vehicle offers, not only the back seat, but the hatch as well is really good. This is the bread and butter of what a sporty sedan hatchback should be. No regrets!!
I used to think the civic was for teenagers. This is the first time I have ever liked how the civic looks, it super slick & audi like!
Teenagers can’t afford new cars
I’ve yet to see a reviewer that didn’t have high praise for this next gen Civic.
still looks too big tho
@Abubakar Abdullahi i mean the front def looks great
Great video and for sure this car is going to keep being great and being very popular. Can you PLEASE do a video on how dealerships are doing huge mark-ups and price gouging? These mark ups are getting so bad and we really can't let this just become the norm for car buying.
I love how Honda handles the redesigns. The two are totally different. It somehow doesn’t outdate the last gen but makes it so you can appreciate the two. Same with the accord
Thank you for testing the manual, this is the version to get for this car.
IF, you like shifting, which I don't. Been there, done that, for too many years.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH Yeah I hear you. But the turbo engine with the CVT combined create so much lag that it makes it borderline unsafe. The slingshot effect of going from too slow to too fast is actually dangerous. With the manual you can mitigate some of those effects by giving the engine more revs when you need it and then let off the gas and use engine break to slow you down once you're done accelerating.
I suppose the paddle shifters can also help in that regard.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH Then buy a self driving Tesla and call it a day.
Honda did a great job here. The last Civic was kind of bizarre with all of the big fake intakes. This looks awesome inside and out.
The last Civic looked like an abortion from the rear, especially the Type R. FUGLY.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH lol
People always complain about the fake vents, and yes, they were unnecessary, but BMW’s have done the same thing at the front and no one bats an eye
@@RogueJedi501 hell buicks been doing that since the beginning
I have the EX Sedan and it's a blast to drive, very low center of gravity, corners great even with the narrower wheels.
I was definitely looking at a golf and this civic hatchback in manual is spot on what I was looking for.
Keep looking at the Golf. Leave the Hondas to us that's been with the brand.
Can’t wait to get the EX hatch, I hope they’ll start offering sonic gray pearl in more trims.
Oddly, the Civic site doesn't have the EX. It shows LX, Sport, EX-L, and Sport Touring. I'd want the EX as well as I don't care for leather.
Wow. This, Tundra and the EQS all within like 3 days. Keep up the good work team!!
There was an embargo. Every Civic hatch road review came out today.
@@xp50player Right. I thought as much. :) Same with the Tundra.
Don’t forget about the Mach E GT too! Our editor, Rob has really been getting his ass kicked and he’s been wonderful getting this embargoes met!
@@theredline That's right! I got too many tabs open trying to watch your videos. Damn Sofyan/Rob, take a chill pill :D
@@theredline Mach E immediately became a "dangerous" option since it can't even pass a simple moose test lol
This all new Honda Hatchback is much more premium looking... and u can get a manual with the very top sport touring trim!
It combines the touring and sport trims of the Civic!
Best combo ever!
( And sofyan ... u have been doing reviews in and out for a long time... 12 days, like u said in Instagram and UA-cam as well!
Good job, man!)
As an old guy, I wouldn't be embarrassed driving this vice the previous one.
I bought an Elantra sport in 2018 with the DCT and turbo 1.6 (201hp 195 lb/ft)...discounted to $23,000 with blindspot, heated seats, sunroof. 0-60 in about 6.5 seconds. The Elantra sport and the Kia forte turbo models are such steals in this segment Surprised to see that not many people buy them!
Maybe because of their crappy oil burning engines. 😆😆
@@Platos-Den nice
Well to be fair kia’s I’m general don’t get any love from the car community
I owned an 18 ES it was fun, but the smell of oil mixing with the gas made me nervous. The new direct injection from Honda 1.5 has this issue as well.
@@Kizzle001 bro I noticed the same smell upon startup...ive asked the service department a bunch of times and they say i will have to leave the car for 2-3 days for them to diagnose it. Could you explain to a little more as to what that smell is?? please
Got mine coming. Already signed for it!! :’) Gonna be one of the first Sport Touring Boost Blue coming to my area. :’)
That's great!!! But give it one month until everyone around you will be driving the same car lol
@@justinnegron4843 True that, if I wanted to stand out I wouldn’t have gotten the civic lol. But as a step up commuter it hits the spot. Haha
@@nickmaster117 it does. Congratulations 🎈
Mine is on the way in Sonic Pearl Gray!
Congrats 🎊 and enjoy it!
Touring comes with Bose audio and 6-speed manual. Just perfect! Is SI going to be sedan only? I would love to see SI hatch.
Si hatch with DCT and 210 hp would be ideal for me.
@@basstheangelo That'll be the new Integra. Can't wait. Gonna be huge for Honda/Acura if done right. But it seems the base model will be a luxury SI hatch/liftback with the 1.5t, not confirmed, but seems super likely. And it should start in the low $30,000's
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@Tony Camaj not in the US since we will get Type R hatch and Acura Integra hatch.
@@supercyan4869 I will most likely get the new Integra. If it stays in low 30’s it will be a great value.
Man you guys deserve so much more subscribers. So many new videos in such a short time
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I feel like this car is still growing on me. I still overall prefer the 10th gen but compared to when this car was first announced, I like it a lot more. Wondering what the 23 or 24 models will update or change.
Usually each model will have a 4/5 year run with a refresh halfway through the run
@@clever41504 Honda usually announce their refresh model in third year of the generation, remain it for 2 years then move to the next gen
I've always preferred the latest hatchback. Something about it makes it look premium
I wasn’t a fan of the 10th gen look, especially those gaudy trim pieces on the back corners of the exterior. But, while I dig this, they might have dialed it back a little tooooo much. It’s a fine line. I’m sure people will do some rad stuff in the aftermarket world though.
100%. These things look a bit neutered BUT when will look amazing customized. I did a quick edit in Photoshop and it looked great
@@Oozywolf i own a pre facelift 9th gen accord. I love the way this civic looks because thats what it reminds me of with more a sporty touch to it. Honestly in the future if i get tired of this accord I might look into this civic although im a big fan of rwd mid size sedan like a gs 350, 5 series, e class. Infinity q50 is not a bad car but its not better than any of its competition
It looks modern and fresh which is what most civic buyers would want.
My sister got the 2022 Civic Sport Sedan in that same color and car looks great in person
I really appreciate this guy's reviews. He really goes in on details.😎🌎
Depending on ground clearance, this car (with a stick) could be a good winter drive when fitted with snow tires.
You and savage geese are the best in the business. I’m a huge fan of Honda this civic is amazing much more conservative styling with great interior.
One of the best reviews you ever made! Good job and really great car! Love the manual!
The interior tech is like 5-8 years ahead of the Ridgeline.
Honda makes some sexy sedans/hatchbacks and they have great interiors but their SUV and truck line are horribly outdated and ugly as holy hell, especially the Pilot with it's interior taken from 2005. Hope Honda steps up their SUV game soon to better compete with Hyundai and even Toyota's newer, modern offerings.
Wish they would offer more colors for the sport touring w/manual transmission.
Agreed. It seems that, over the past decade-plus, Americans wanting a manual have been squeezed (fewer trim levels, no leather, etc., and now this). But at least that grey pearl is hot.
Car wraps are cheaper nowadays. Just think of it as an extra cost option if you want a different color.
I know, really wanted that boost blue with a manual touring.
@@fj717 Car wraps look like 'wraps'. They look awful.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 Yep
8.5 to 60 is so slow. I love that Honda still gives the Civic a manual but that acceleration is very disappointing, only black interior and very few color choices are not great. Price is also really high. I hope the Si is a better value.
Exactly.
I know right. Having to use a turbo and still being over 1 second slower than a manual naturally aspirated Corolla hatch.
@@stansid3326 Speaking of the Corolla when are we getting the GR version, I want to see that bad boy.
You're so right. Civic is too expensive and Honda dealerships are notorious for forcing you to pay for accessories to jack up the price well over MSRP. No thanks. I'd rather buy a Corolla.
@@stansid3326 Also, Toyota lets you buy a manual Corolla Hatchback in any trim level, interior color and exterior color.
wow you're the only reviewer that got a manual, kudos and good job
That would be cool if they offered an AWD Civic hatch with a lifted suspension.
I really love this spec and trim level. I can only imagine what a newer EG style 3 door hatch would have looked like! Manual transmissions are so awesome and I’m sad to see them going away. Are the Si and Type-R going to be manual also??
Top gear PH made a render of an EG hatch based off the 2022 civics, look up modern eg hatchback
I'm a Honda fanboy, but Mazda is starting to interest me more.
I have both. Mazda is my long time go-to. Always better looking, more fun to drive and just as reliable if you get one made in Japan, which this Civic is not.
Mazda all the way.
Couldn't be more happy with my polymetal grey premium plus turbo 3.
@@NoVaRedacted I still love my civic, but man the interior is such a rattlebox lol. The Mazda on the other hand feels as solid as a tank.
Stay with Honda. Mazda's look good but the build quality is awful.
I like this new civic, the interior is much nicer and the surfaces seem more High quality. I like the new screen placement too. The exterior is overall better too I think. The front end looks a bit off with the Honda logo sitting a little low I think, and also it resembling the accord front a lot. I don’t think it’s bad though and the rear end definitely looks much better especially the hatch taillights which I think is better than the sedan. Im excited to see the type r model, as I like the 10 th gen type r, but didn’t really like the rear end and some styling elements could have been improved a little.
It really needs a Limited Slip! Also, living in the country, I'm not a fan of rim damaging low profile tires.
SI wil get a LSD
In Canada this exact trim offers rear heated seats.
Interesting they could make a tow hook-less bumper cover for this market, but not a tow hook-less tool kit tray, so we all get to wonder what is missing. The manual eats up half the console storage compared to the CVT.
The Si will not be in hatchback form? That's a damn shame.
FACTS
That would make this the perfect Si 2.0 - with a few upgrades (power/stability and a Genuine Honda differential) this could be the Si for most people. And yes I know it’s a sport model with 1.5T making 180 but with mods we can get upwards of 230hp/190 torque
In Canada we get the civic hatchback manual in all colors and every trim is available with a manual
Don’t let the 0-60 times fool you. These cars aren’t fast from a dig, but from a roll they’re legit quick and have great midrange & top end power.
Nobody's buying this for its quickness. Because it ain't.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH And as an owner of a tuned 10th gen Civic I know first hand how quick these cars are and can be.
The Si should really be something❗❗
My fav auto review channel, no stupid jokes
I think the honda marketing has made everyone forget that a mid trim civic costs as much as a base accord, or the top trim civic, costs as much as the mid trim accord.
Think about it. The CIVIC starts at 22k. The Accord starts at 25k. That is only a 3k difference and if you are making payments anyway, that is only 50$ more a month at 5% interest.
The moment you chose to go for the 1.5t engine (not the base 2.0) you are paying way over 25k. At this point, a camry se goes for 27k and the accord sport around the same, both of which are quicker, have better transmissions, etc.
And if you want to go for the top trim civic it costs 30k, which costs as much as a base 2.0t accord sport at around 31k. Why would you buy a top trim civic over a 2.0 accord? No idea, idiots will be idiots.
For comparison, the camry is a better buy at every price point, its about the same size interior wise, but it is wider, has an 8 speed over a CVT, and has more standard options.
And the accord being only a few thousand more, is the better value than both, PERIOD.
What honda doesn't want you to know is that when you buy the civic they make more money per vehicle. Similar price, less car. Think about it, THEY WANT YOU to buy the civic over the accord, because the accord/camry is the better value in every single way except one.
You can buy the civic with a manual. That is about the ONLY bonus, sure, you can get a hatch too...but realistically, the enormous trunk in my Camry fits literally everything, including 10 4"x4" beams like it was nothing, and the accord is 2.5cuft bigger trunk wise.
So is the civic a good car? Sure, if it cost as much as the older civics, aka, sub 20k. Otherwise, this overlaps way too much with the accord and camry for me to care.
Your arguments? Its more fun to drive. Right...A car that has a cheaper chassis, cheaper suspension, narrower wheels, and has next to no power in the base engine and a detuned version of the accord base engine at the top? Okay guys. Ill take the 2.0t accord. The corolla is still the best value compact sedan, it starts at 20k, and usually is sold for far less than that.
You seriously put a Toyota Camry in the same sentence as a civic? 😆😆🤣🤣🤦♂️ wow… a Toyota Camry is just cheap tin can plastic on cheap wheels… comparing civic to accord though accord is better at the low end. High end it’s pricier
You are absolutely right. The $30000 price on the top trim civic is just ridiculous. Like you said, a smart person would prefer a 2.0t accord or if you like manual transmission, then a WRX base would be a more intelligent choice. More power and AWD. Overall the price increase on all new civic models make you think twice before you commit.
@@jonnydonacar6435 30K for a civic is better than 30K for a corolla
Well, while this is kinda true…the base model Accord has a shit sound system and is missing some features to make it worth the price IMO. The Camry SE is also dated, lacking features, and doesn’t even have push button start. And the tail lights are not LED like the XSE trim. So you can get the bigger car for a bit more money, but it’ll be dated and bare bones.
@@SIIKAP1 30K can get you a base xle or XSE Camry 4 cylinder though.
I'm glad you can get the naturally aspirated engine on the Civic along with a manual transmission.
I am so lucky to have this car as a gift from my father. Awesome car I love it
What I would give for a Civic SI hatchback with a 10-speed automatic... But I love this hatchback as well.
I’d go for the Acura DCT
I'm about this car. If I needed a good car right now this would be it. If the type r isn't marked up 200% I might be trading in my GTI.
Better off buying a premium plus turbo mazda 3 AWD. 250hp and 320lb ft torque. Better interior too better exterior lighting quality and everything else
wow I wouldn't mind this car. just simple solid humble reliable car
I own a 2016 Lexus ct200 h f-sport and this hatchback is growing on me, probably gonna consider getting this over a 2022 is 350 f sport. The price is just the biggest difference for me. And yeah honda has definitely stepped up their design game!
Did they fix the oil dilution issue on the 1.5t for this generation?
this is what I wanted along, hope I find one cause they been selling out before the even arrive
I went to the dealer yesterday, the sales guy was worthless as he had no interest in helping me find one,
Air vents for the back? Why? I know this is available for the Corolla, but is there any data to show that Honda Civic Hatchback owners will be driving with rear passengers on a regular basis? Would rear air vents cool or heat the car more efficiently? Why is this important? BTW, this was a very good video. Thanks.
Wait, Mazda does offer a manual in the premium
hatch just not in the turbo.
This current civic looks way better than the previous 😍
$30k for a civic? Looks like a fun car and love to have the manual once again.
I just test drove a 22 civic sport hatch manual and omg the transmission is soooo much better than my 21 civic type r and that makes me extremely exited to how the new type r is gonna feel
I have a 2020 Civic Sport Hatch MT and am nearing the end of my lease, figuring out what to do next. Keep the 2020, go with a 2022 Sport MT, or try to preorder a 2023 Sport Touring MT. Wondering what you think about going from the 1.5T to the 2.0NA of the normal Sport? Would I be disapoointed? Should i go for Sport Touring?
One thing I don’t like about the rear is on the sedan sport model you get a visible tail pipe, but on the hatch is the fake ones. I would think they would have reversed it
It needs:
- Lumbar support
- Cooled seats
- Rear heated seats
- Rear seat vents
That’ll make it more expensive it’s already almost $30k
Buy a Forte GT!
It doesn’t need any of that lol
You can get that in the Jetta, plus a panoramic roof, better digital cockpit, and ambient lighting.
@@SimonStrother Agreed, but unless you get the GLI, you will not have the same performances...And both the Jetta and Forte Gt look a thousand yime better...👍
Really good review, love the hatchback just can’t wait to get mine
First of all your the best been watching u for years, also when I'm thinking about buying an older car I refer to your older reviews. Si is coming out in the fall, but isn't fall already, come on Honda.
Just went at a 2022 Sonic Grey Pearl sport touring hatchback at a Honda dealer in Massachusetts. Msrp was $31,260. They added $4,000 market adjustment on top of that. Plus they only wanted yo give me $22k for my 2019 Kia Optima SX turbo with 25k miles (panoramic roof, red/black leather seats, heated/ventilated seats, etc….loaded). The lease was to be for 10k/year for 3 years, just start up fees at inception. With money factor of .00150, the monthly payment would have been $488/month and would not budge on anything. Needless to say I will be keeping my optima with only a $376 month payment for the foreseeable future. The civic looks great but not at $35k
Was gone buy it but when u said it looks like a Kia that killed it ,he'll with this honda thx man
11th gen Civics look like random generic cars you’d carjack in Grand Theft Auto 5.
Agreed, but it still looks way better than the last gen., which I found atrocious looking from the rear.
@@OMGWTFLOLSMH To each his own. The 10th gen looked better to me….more aggressive and edgy. I’ll take that over a plain-Jane looking buttercookie any day of the week.
Nah I love mine 2005 Honda Odyssey it so smooth 202,000 it still go strong
Hate that he didn't pick up the litter around the car before filming :(
Am I the only one who thinks this is so boring? Literally blends in with the crowd compared to the last generation
I bought the premium plus Mazda 3, this Civic gen looks so bland. And interior looks terrible idk why everyone wants the civic
@@NoVaRedacted The Mazda 3 looks good but the build quality is awful. Rattles and squeaks galore.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 I’ve driven both youre out of your mind lol
@@bigmacdaddy1234 I’ve driven both, I agree. And if you plan on having passengers, civic is the way to go. Mazda is cramped as hell
Honda civic the best in class!!!
“Disappointing 9th generation” !?!? That’s the best looking generation IMO!
The general public wouldn't agree. It was their least selling model, which is why they needed to refresh the sedan after just one model year.
Second best looking, after 11th gen IMO.
@@SIIKAP1 you like bland. Better off getting a GTI
@@jimmypena2442 I like classy and stylish. Not ricey and gaudy. GTIs are a no go for me. This civic is way nicer looking. And bro you drive a bland Scion…wym I like bland?
@@SIIKAP1 the 9th gen looks like a retro EG to me I had a FB6 and a EG8 and when I parked them next to eachother I could see some inspiration in the design but I like where the new generation is headed I just hope they don’t make the accord look to similar
wondering the differences between genx vs sport touring manual vs this car. Drive wise and speed wise. Honda Canada gets more colours. If U don't buy manuals or at least look harder for one, you'll loose the option in a year or so - happy to see this review....good job
Oh redline reviews always saying a manufacturer should add all these things but never is a buyer.
The biggest issue with this car is the price. It's a compact car that's priced like cars a class or two above.
Yeah, well this isn't your grandpappy's Civic. It's loaded with refinement and tech. Adaptive cruise on a Civic and wireless charging, heated steering wheel and rear seats (in Canada). It's a few levels above the basic econobox that it used to be. It's also the size of an old Accord now.
Getting a 22 hatchback sport in about a week. I like the extra features of the touring but I’m good with the sport!
Nice car!
The trick for honda to get a faster 0-100 speed is not to rev high in the first gear only rev to 3500 - 4000 rpm and shift to 2nd then rev it to 5.5 and shift to 3rd. its better accelerate that way
His jeans look like the $15 George from WM. I bought a pair not long ago and love 'em.
This will be the next car for me. Honda is the best.
I think at 13:18, elapsed time, the engine is not a 'downgrade' as the video creator says. Maybe on horsepower output and torque, but the reliability and durability is better in the 2 liter (K20C2) with port injection over the smaller 1.5 turbo direct-injected (L15B7). That smaller engine has allowed fuel past the piston oil rings into the oil (crank case) and reduces the oil viscosity making it less beneficial to the engine lubricity. Sure 158 hp versus 180 is less, but I would prefer the larger engine for the life of the car over the 1.5 liter. One more thing: CVT's are the 'Androids' of transmissions. They are to be frowned up. If a driver didn't learn how to drive 'stick', their parents didn't love them enough. jk.
1:16 sofyan still has the tag on his pillow 💀💀💀💀
2022 Civic Sport Touring or the Acura Integra? Which should I choose?
In 2021 Honda still doesn’t put LED rear turn signal? How much are those LED bulbs?
Is LED board mad expensive to replace headlight nd tailights thousands of dollars
There must be some odd reason for it, because much more expensive cars do this. Like I had an E46 BMW, a 2004, and it had LED brake lights and turn signals. Today they're using incandescent for signals in most models. LEDs make drivers behind you process the signal better (scientific studies say it's the instant-on flash) so seems like a safety downgrade.
Rear end and hatch remind me of a Chevy Monza.
As a 10th gen Civic Si owner I don't mind it. However in Canada right now this car is $620/mnth in Ontario according to the online tool. The GTI Autobahn is $550. So uhh, ya there's that.
Lease or finance
@@alvinsimba734 48 month lease.
@@konos3951that's a lot.. I normally finance as I plan to keep my cars for a long time. Right now I'm doing $350/month for a 2020 corolla here in Canada for 5 years
@@alvinsimba734 Yup I agree. it is a an awful lot considering the level of performance between those 2 cars in particular.
Currently I pay about $450/mnth for my '19 Si for 4 years. Spent about $850CDN for the Ktuner and TSP tune which has increased power by about 25hp but close to 70ftlbs more torque so basically makes what the Accord 2.0T motor made. I'll be happy with that for another 2 years but after that I'll be bored of it and will want something else. I put very little mileage on my cars and do get tired of them quite quickly (I'm normally able to get out of them at no additional cost after 3 years - so long as I stay with Honda) so thats primarily why I lease. I'm also a bit of a clean freak so my cars are always immaculate and not living in Toronto I don't have to worry about door dings or body damage nearly as much as folks who live in bigger cities.
I see this car more like a liftback than a hatchback and its actually great
Honestly can't wait for the Electric civic hatch. That little thing is gonna be so quick! Also, this gives me Crosstour vibes; my mom has a 2013, and it's the best car she has ever owned. I'm gonna try to get her into this or a type r 🤭🤭🤭
Edit: to be honest, if you're an enthusiast, and got the sport touring with the manual, wouldn't it make more sense to get a Type-R? Basically the same thing except the Type-R comes in one trim level lolol
Type R will cost over 40k after markups though.
@@SIIKAP1 but won't the Type-R hold its value better than the regular hatch?
@@plvt0n1vm Yeah for sure. Just too much to spend for me. Although i’d love to have one. If one can afford it, then one should get it.
I love your reviews...thanks!
disagree with the title but great review and good car
i wish they did a proper wagon, would looks really upscale like the Volvo T90 wagon
I think only Honda or Toyota could bring wagons back to the US with the Camry, Civic, Accord, and Corolla nameplates.
But it makes no financial sense to even try as they might not sale and of they do they will compete with their large crossover lineup.
I wish the new Corolla cross was the Corolla wagon but just lifted up more like the Outback.
manual use to get better performance and mileage, then then lost to mileage and now losing to 0-60 performance. Sad day for manuals. good review.
I wish you could have driven the 2.0 with the manual
FACTS !!!!!
Why it’s slower
@@remycris2108 most reliable powerplant. No turbo, manual transmission
No oil-gas dilution problems, and no need to replace the turbo at 125K miles. The 2.0 liter will be more robust over the long term. It’s too bad they didn’t make it 2.4 liters and VTEC.
You do an excellent review - never miss a beat!
Why is it so slow? 1.5 in the Accord is a full second faster. How is the 2.0 performance in this Civic?
You can get the grey leather interior with the automatic, but only with Meteorite Grey or Platinum White--I think it would look great with Smoky Mauve, but inability to get an interior color and exterior color I like on the same car has been true of every Honda I've looked at for the last 40 years.
The exterior color is kinda like nazi grey
@@tloud600 And that color is actually a $395 upcharge.
You compared this to the mazda3, saying that Mazda doesn’t offer turbo with the stick, however the stick on mazda3 comes with a more powerful NA engine than civic’s 1.5 (180hp/180lbft).
Easter egg! Empty Fanta bottle at 3:55 behind the tire subliminal sponsorship!
luv your wicked laugh as you destroy synchros and clutch
No rear AC vents is ridiculous. Maybe you can take away a damn camera/sensor or something. C’mon Honda !!
Agreed. I did find out there is a kit available to add the rear vents. Shouldn't have to but it can be done for about a $100.
Damn.. I really wanted this exact car in the bright blue option that they've been advertising
I used keeps and what I got was a severe allergic reaction, in which my face got so swollen that I could hardly open my eyes - My face looked like that of Mohamed Ali after his first bout against Joe Frazier in 1971. Because of Keeps I also got rashes all over my body and I suffered constant itching all over for a constant for a couple of weeks- pure torture!!. Needless to say, I had to cancel the rest of my payments. Although I really should have gotten my money back. Beware of Keeps if you decide to buy it!
Only thing that's bothersome is the hood doesn't seem to sit perfectly flush at certain angles.