id love to see them 2 cars duke it out on the track, sort of a father vs son thing. the FG GT-F saying to the XY "hey dad, i can stand tall beside you"
Driving up and down Peter Brock Drive . The Holden Guys Honorary Road . R I P Peter . An industrial road near Eastern Creek Raceway , for those that don't know . I am a Local . Recognise the area well .
Fwiw, from memory a standard automatic XYGT ran 1/4 mile in 15.5 secs; manual in 15.2; finish line speed would be approximately 85-90 mph. The only test I've ever seen back in the day in Ph3 HO was a 14.2. Finish line speed would be approx 95-97mph. I always felt that with a good driver (experienced at drag racing GT/HO's) and a well tuned engine/correct tyre pressures they would run (in stock form) high 13's @ 100mph'ish. That XYGT in this video appears to have a very high stance for a standard car. Both beautiful cars regardless.
My uncle had a phase 3 with factory 3.9 gears. With slightly fatter tyres he ran a 13.9 in the 70s with lots of wheelspin. Remove the rev limiter and i think 13.5 is achievable with decent tyres and good traction
I remember when the Classic car Selling magazine first came out & in 1988. they had Bill Bourkes XW Black 429 cobra jet for sale, the last XE ESP 4.9 with Plate saying last V8 built at FORD Brody plant & that was going for $50K Bill bourkes XW was going for 80K & they had Dick Johnsons XY which was going for 120K, thats back in 1988. :)
2015 FGX XR8 is actually a debadged GT RSPEC. Same everything to an extent just different shape to the FG. Still would love a GTHO, but at the moment my 6spd manual 335 Boss supercharged will do hehe
XY GT will ALWAYS be my number one car! Most females would prefer some plastic box these days, me on the other hand... These beasts are my weakness❤️ The look, the way it roars, and the attention it gets❤️
the GTHO was available with different diff gears, so hard to put a quarter time on it, although most accept the 14.7 time that I think Wheels set. Remember that skinny cross ply tyres means lots of wheel spin too. The Phase II, according to an old article, ran a best of 13.9 at a drag strip, with attention paid to tyre pressures etc.
The GTF other than the power is similar in appearance to nearly every new car on the road. The XY GTHO is on its own in shape other than its standard brothers. I have always been a Holden person, but this thing is something special.
Forced induction Fuel injected, nanny state controlled 6 speed Vs a dump and burn 351 ci 4 speed top loader with balls not cut???. As a Holden person and a Brock owner a 351 Cleveland on full song is angels mating and no condom. Get real, Elvis has left the building
Nice to know they compared a australian muscle icon car to a boosted gtf falcon. No way of a comparison. Thats why the xy has the heritage and caries the gt badge proud.
A bit late to the party, but if you pull up in an FPV GT GT F and then someone pulls up in GTHO Phase 3 I know which one gets the attention regardless of specs and speed. The HO without a doubt.
It isn't quite that simple. 'Take' in what context? Is the HO a more significant car than the GT-F? Most likely, yes. Is the modern car more capable and easy to use in pretty much every way? You'd hope so. Would I buy a HO to use as day-to-day transport? Even if I had more money than Bill Gates, I'd think twice about that one. I'd buy one as a collector / investor, maybe, if I had the money, and yes, I'd take it out and play with it a little bit, at least once. But not as a regular driver. Would I take a GT-F as a daily driver? ... Not my first choice, but I'd sure have one over a HO. I'd like an XR6T and turn up the boost a bit. Even stock, I'd take that over the V8 but double the power (which is not hard to do) and there's no contest.
***** Depends in what CONTEXT. As an investment? As an item of value? A HO is worth 10 times, more than 10 times what a GT-F is. Ok, but which one is a better *car*? It depends on what you want it for. A Stradivarius is a wonderful violin, but it's a silly thing to dig a ditch with. There's no way on earth a HO is an easier or better day to day car than a modern one.
Kneedragon1962 Couldn't have said it better myself. I prefer the GT-F because I would use it everyday. That's why I said rather have the FPV GT-F 351. Plus *****, Plus driving a classic car everyday isn't the best everyday car nor the safest.
So many stupid automotive journalism cliches in one video, struth. "Feels like a screwdriver in a bucket of nuts and bolts" It obviously doesn't, you just shook the bejeezus out of the thing.
The XY is no doubt one of the most historic, tough looking handful of car to drive but lets not talk shit. Any of the new B Series onward shit on them in every regard. Being more rare doesn't make it better. It's all eye of the beholder.
I own a 2011 GT 6 spd manual and it has no stripes and it's polar white so it's the ultimate sleeper everyone thinks it's an XR6 or XR8 until I fry the tyres and launch like a scalded cat I've also owned an XY back in the day and I regret selling it but I'd prefer my FPV now with all the luxury safety and more grunt with the supercharged motor I'm in heaven baby
how can you compare a supercharged engine to a naturally aspirated if you took the supercharger off the FPV GT-F and bumped its compression up to match that of the old V8 I would put my money on the old GT-HO every time
Ok I will put this to you if I put a supercharger on my phase 111 and boost it at exactly the same boost as FPV GT-F you know it is over on a quarter mile for your modern car but I admit in a track situation handling is a major factor and would most likely see the modern car as the victor and also fuel economy stakes. (( however I have seen plenty of 10 and eleven second old school falcons (quarter mile times) without blowers)) and this is way back in the early 90's when I was going to drag strips so I highly doubt it would walk away as the victor (my opinion and I agree to disagree with you on this)
like I said I agree to disagree and yes most of the cars at the drags were modified but you could have "blueprinted and balanced" ported and polished the heads played with various cam grinds cc'ed the engine all in your own garage at home and go run 11's 12's all day on the skinny tyres as you say, well what if we put the same size tyres on one as well as the supercharger it would easily walk away from the new car and if we bothered to add hill born fuel injection and toss the carb over our shoulder wow so left for dead, and all cars are mechano sets as you say and 140 mph as you say was not the speed when it crossed the line for 14.4 sec if it crossed the the line at 140 mph ((maybe diff gearing could be played with to achieve this from factory as it may have been an option although 3.25 gears springs to mind)) it would have done 11's 12's if it hooked up at its top speed across the line but as we all know if you go to lower gears top speed is affected so it may have more likely been mid or low 13's without to many mods other than diff ratio any way again i agree to disagree and I wouldn't know much from my 20 yrs as a mechanic, what are the quarter mile times from this car in "factory" trim I can not seem to find many figures weight of car diff ratios etc etc but basically in the beginning as i said comparing supercharged cars to N/A is just ridiculous to say the least do we compare pro stock cars to door slammers (slightly unfair if you did) same goes here and yes I love old cars because they were made by hands not robots. PS I have enjoyed this conversation
Alot of the points you make about the XY are due to age of the car rather than design, like the brakes for example of course its never going to stop quickly but you can achieve a firm brake pedal feel with some adjustments.
@ 5:41 WOW notice the twin tips of n the back bouncing around, WOW for Built no1 of 500 & its doing that, which can only mean 1 thing, they disconnected the CAT back system for the trip to the strip, its all about the hipe like i said Found On Rubbish Dump F O R D for every one lol :)
If a car is up for auction, anyone can buy it. Thats why they disappear from our shores. Like the Sultan of Brunei who has world's largest car collection: 7000. Look him up here on UA-cam.
Even though I am a huge fan of Ford, and I drive a FG G6E, but if I had to choose between the GT F or the XY GTHO, I would rather have the legend, the XY GTHO
The FG still looks like a Taxi inside! And of course it should be quicker than the XY and drive better. Funny though, I had a 71 XY Fairmont Auto with the 351 and it had power steering. But if I had a choice, I would take the XY and keep my SS Ute!
I'm sure quite a few American cars with two less doors were just as fast. Must belong to a different category because it has two extra doors. I fail to see the distinction apart from that.
There's two points to make here. 1. Find someone with a respectable condition GTHO that would be willing to loan it to a review organisation to drag race it. 2. I'm sure ford would not want their top shelf car of 2014 to be beaten or even close to matched by a 40 year old car.
For a start the XY is far better looking, sounds BETTER! XY is Raw Brutal, a Real mans car, the GTF is a computer controlled, clinical, when you start having fun the computer in all modern cars comes in and says NO thats enough, and over rides ( it is called traction control ).
So ..It took Ford 40 years and a whole heap of computer crap to take 2 seconds off the XY...Long like the xy.. Lets see how much that piece of plastic ford they call a GT is worth in 40 years hahaha
The actual explanation for this is fuel changing from leaded to unleaded (catalytic converters in the 70's), tightening emissions for all cars and that car weighs a lot less.
How about this buy a older Holden or FORD & spend over 150K on it & we will see who will have a better car in the end, especially when using all the mod cons we have today, so if FORD are going to sell you cars that they want you to pay over $150K ,then it better come up to spec with the euro cars that are asking that much as a standard road car. :)
The guy who bought it is a speculator. You can buy much better cars for $150.000. He'll hold on to it, never drive it and hope someone gives him a million for it one day.
and at the end of the day Holden is better tougher But Chrysler Charger R/T Hemi 6 was faster down the Quarter Mile ... and looked way cooler than the bus falcon tank
I mean lets be honest, the Falcon GT was slow as fuck and handled like a dogs breakfast like most of the cars back then, not hard to make an improvement on performance. but then you take something that looks so tough and iconic and make it look like a taxi. thats pretty fucked.
This host what ever you want to call him needs to get a grip does he not realise it’s almost a 50 year old car and he is still picking it to pieces like wind through the doors,no headrest and even a shacky gear knob😂
you said it does mid 12’s let’s find out and you ran the quarter and didn’t give either of the times bad presenting and how fucking frustrating lucky it’s just ford shit anyway
What a waste of u tube space really, why dont they compare that same GT F with the GEN F HSV GTS, after all its the top of the ranges for both manufacture's ? Anything to have FORD as something special when in fact its nothing new, just believe in the hipe about a car, when it comes down to it, so if the insurance company's agree with the pricing, NOPE unless you want to pay for chosen Value then pay for it. :)
Here, here, so much carry on about the GTF when HSV has been making cars that out accelerate & out handle this thing since 2013.... in reality the GTf compared with the LSA clubsport, the clubsport is same money, more features & at least if not quicker in a straight line... Oh & much better inclusions & technology.. Hell the seats are 20 times nicer.. Ford is overpriced considering.
How many lsa's do you see on the road? Fucking none. 100g for 300rwkw hahahha that's fg xr6t with a tune power levels. No one buys holdens. Boosted fpvs and boosted sixes are the ideal platform for big cheap reliable power. Hsv is dead.
A 400 kw LSA clubsport can be had for 76k new now, with it comes a bigger diff, bigger box, (both oil cooled) nice brakes, 100 times nicer seats & interior, collision alert, & park assist. On top of that an air box & simple tune take them to 475 kw. And these things have been tested to death & have proven to be bullet proof. I have an XR6 turbo, as do some mates, Ive had my turbo lunch itself early, my mates one also, $1200 to rebuild. And another friend had his G6 turbo lunch itself in first 50 000k.... They are neat cars, but not even in remotely the same league as an LSA. As for 300 rwkw, read the articles floating around about how ford tried to supress the first results, then look at their carry on, others have also got dyno results of 311 rwkw from heaps of miamis. Regarless every single video still shows every GTS auto or manual flogging the ford... Even after the ford has 55 goes to get its overboost on... And 85 ford engineers present to make sure it actually went. HSV didn't say a word, only ford whining Hahahaha
+never late over boosts is a timing map. Like any boosted car it shouldn't be on boost until all engine temps are up. Yeah they only get beaten by journalists. Go to the track where 245 wheels aren't fitted and watch them run low 12s. Unlike the Holden there's no traction below 3rd gear. Sucks all your 6ts are shit mine makes a happy 490rwkw on 20psi all for under 10g and hasn't missed a beat for 2.5 years and 70thou ks.
....... I'm a holden fan and I love the XY GT......... But never have I seen such a flop onwards, their cars are soft and sluggish. And are generally very "cheap" but not in a good oh this car was actually pretty cheap. You are still paying the same amount but getting less for your money over quite a few commodore models. Not here to hate, both these cars are awesome. But I just have to point out that ford has been forgotten in the media for quite some time and its not because they have "been paid off by holden"........
***** Whats wrong with the LS1's? Heaps of parts, and even more performance parts. Albeit the engine is lacking a lot while stock standard but its very cheap to do one up with a cam+rockers package.
***** LOL I'm sure the LS series is just as good mate. Reliability is proven and so is performance. There isn't anything wrong with either engines leave it at that.
Warren Heslip Yeah Ford of america are pretty good I don't like Chevrolet's line up of muscle cars. Cant beat the new Corvette though :PP Would KILL for one man!
Fastest 4 door my arse. The Ford guys always say that. I believe the Mercedes Benz 300SEL 6.3L was much faster 4 door sedan . The AMG 6.8L version was faster again. 428 hp, 610 nm. top speed of 265 km/h
The HO had a top speed of 142 MPH, the 1968-72 Mercedes 300SEL 6.3 had a top speed of 137 MPH. The Daimler/Jaguar V12 was the first to knock the GTHO off it's perch at 153 MPH in 1973.
YEAH YEAH YEAH, so its a bit quicker, faster and quieter, BUT its also like spending a night with an ugly chick! might be fun to do but you just hope your mates don't find out about it! Ph3 EVERYDAY! years to come all the plastic on that new thing will be all hard brittle and cracked and there wont be much available to restore one with only a small run of 500 or so!
End of an era of unique, Fast Fords from Oz. Sad for this American.
Most of the negative points of the XY are due to the age of the vehicle rather than design choices of the time..
Holden design was slicker and sexier. This one looks like a shoebox with wheels.
@@lorenzomagazzeni5425 in your opinion maybe, doesnt change the fact that it is a legendary car
Thought I'd give your presenter a tip- N/A stands for Naturally Aspirated, not Normally Aspirated... Just a little correction I had to make
id love to see them 2 cars duke it out on the track, sort of a father vs son thing. the FG GT-F saying to the XY "hey dad, i can stand tall beside you"
Driving up and down Peter Brock Drive . The Holden Guys Honorary Road . R I P Peter . An industrial road near Eastern Creek Raceway , for those that don't know . I am a Local . Recognise the area well .
Holy shit, that XY not far behind
from the usa. id take a falcon over a mustang. you can keep the holden
Haha! Don't listen to any Yanks, @@lobsterwhisperer7932 you'll be better off. Cheers! #coldwarmotors
@@Pedroisanickname holden has an American engine, sooo pretty boring for yanks then!! :P
@@jacksontyler4925 308? also the Cleveland is american
@@randomdude4669 only the 1st ones the rest were Australian
Fwiw, from memory a standard automatic XYGT ran 1/4 mile in 15.5 secs; manual in 15.2; finish line speed would be approximately 85-90 mph. The only test I've ever seen back in the day in Ph3 HO was a 14.2. Finish line speed would be approx 95-97mph. I always felt that with a good driver (experienced at drag racing GT/HO's) and a well tuned engine/correct tyre pressures they would run (in stock form) high 13's @ 100mph'ish. That XYGT in this video appears to have a very high stance for a standard car. Both beautiful cars regardless.
I think with a good set of rubber the gtho would be able to do 13s with a perfect run.
My uncle had a phase 3 with factory 3.9 gears. With slightly fatter tyres he ran a 13.9 in the 70s with lots of wheelspin. Remove the rev limiter and i think 13.5 is achievable with decent tyres and good traction
I remember when the Classic car Selling magazine first came out & in 1988. they had Bill Bourkes XW Black 429 cobra jet for sale, the last XE ESP 4.9 with Plate saying last V8 built at FORD Brody plant & that was going for $50K Bill bourkes XW was going for 80K & they had Dick Johnsons XY which was going for 120K, thats back in 1988. :)
Shame how The United States can never have these stylish cars.
They import them quite often
2015 FGX XR8 is actually a debadged GT RSPEC. Same everything to an extent just different shape to the FG. Still would love a GTHO, but at the moment my 6spd manual 335 Boss supercharged will do hehe
Bar the the supercharger whine of the GTF.....the XYs engine sound track is music to my ears
half a century of technological development, the latest GT would have to be more "capable", but the XY GTHO was a blast in '71 and still is...
pffft LOL 5:41 look at them exhaust tips rattle loose wtf is that rubbish ? $80 grand for that shit .
silverss onyoutube do you not realise exhausts are hooked up with rubber brackets? Of course it gonna rumble when it’s being flogged out
In 50 years time, you will still be able to buy parts and repair your XY. The GTF will be a pile of UV dissolved plastic dust.
nicely said mate haha
Theres always 3d printing 🤣
Both vastly different but great cars in their own way.
XY GT will ALWAYS be my number one car! Most females would prefer some plastic box these days, me on the other hand... These beasts are my weakness❤️
The look, the way it roars, and the attention it gets❤️
the GTHO was available with different diff gears, so hard to put a quarter time on it, although most accept the 14.7 time that I think Wheels set. Remember that skinny cross ply tyres means lots of wheel spin too.
The Phase II, according to an old article, ran a best of 13.9 at a drag strip, with attention paid to tyre pressures etc.
cross ply tyres? NEVER they all used redwall Dunlop aquajets or Olympic Reflex RADIALS
The GTF other than the power is similar in appearance to nearly every new car on the road.
The XY GTHO is on its own in shape other than its standard brothers.
I have always been a Holden person, but this thing is something special.
Forced induction Fuel injected, nanny state controlled 6 speed Vs a dump and burn 351 ci 4 speed top loader with balls not cut???. As a Holden person and a Brock owner a 351 Cleveland on full song is angels mating and no condom. Get real, Elvis has left the building
Nice to know they compared a australian muscle icon car to a boosted gtf falcon. No way of a comparison. Thats why the xy has the heritage and caries the gt badge proud.
last model I would class as GT was xc cobra,ones after do not have the stigma,class & nostalgia imo 👍
A bit late to the party, but if you pull up in an FPV GT GT F and then someone pulls up in GTHO Phase 3 I know which one gets the attention regardless of specs and speed. The HO without a doubt.
Great show mate
Gimme the XY, a piece of history. Dont want a plastimobile.
Only a CLOWN would take the GT F over the GT-HO
Then give me that red nose because I would.
It isn't quite that simple. 'Take' in what context? Is the HO a more significant car than the GT-F? Most likely, yes. Is the modern car more capable and easy to use in pretty much every way? You'd hope so. Would I buy a HO to use as day-to-day transport? Even if I had more money than Bill Gates, I'd think twice about that one. I'd buy one as a collector / investor, maybe, if I had the money, and yes, I'd take it out and play with it a little bit, at least once. But not as a regular driver. Would I take a GT-F as a daily driver? ... Not my first choice, but I'd sure have one over a HO. I'd like an XR6T and turn up the boost a bit. Even stock, I'd take that over the V8 but double the power (which is not hard to do) and there's no contest.
Kneedragon1962 I'd take an XY because, JUST LOOK AT IT!
***** Depends in what CONTEXT. As an investment? As an item of value? A HO is worth 10 times, more than 10 times what a GT-F is. Ok, but which one is a better *car*? It depends on what you want it for. A Stradivarius is a wonderful violin, but it's a silly thing to dig a ditch with. There's no way on earth a HO is an easier or better day to day car than a modern one.
Kneedragon1962 Couldn't have said it better myself. I prefer the GT-F because I would use it everyday. That's why I said rather have the FPV GT-F 351. Plus *****, Plus driving a classic car everyday isn't the best everyday car nor the safest.
The 6 cylinder G6E turbo would kick the original to the curb.
Not possible GTHO is 5.8L, G6E is only 4.0L
@@jrburger95 G6E turbo is a 6 cylinder pumping out 290KW
@@jamesmatheson5115 and 351 Cleveland is V8 producing REAL POWER, enjoy your 6 Cylinder turbo soccer mum car.
So many stupid automotive journalism cliches in one video, struth.
"Feels like a screwdriver in a bucket of nuts and bolts"
It obviously doesn't, you just shook the bejeezus out of the thing.
anyone notice the xy had a aftermarket stereo
The XY is no doubt one of the most historic, tough looking handful of car to drive but lets not talk shit. Any of the new B Series onward shit on them in every regard. Being more rare doesn't make it better. It's all eye of the beholder.
why we're all here
3:26
Dont we have a new GT-HO coming up (built from the last falcon bodies via Tickford?)
I own a 2011 GT 6 spd manual and it has no stripes and it's polar white so it's the ultimate sleeper everyone thinks it's an XR6 or XR8 until I fry the tyres and launch like a scalded cat I've also owned an XY back in the day and I regret selling it but I'd prefer my FPV now with all the luxury safety and more grunt with the supercharged motor I'm in heaven baby
how can you compare a supercharged engine to a naturally aspirated if you took the supercharger off the FPV GT-F and bumped its compression up to match that of the old V8 I would put my money on the old GT-HO every time
are you saying that without the supercharger new car wins ?
Ok I will put this to you if I put a supercharger on my phase 111 and boost it at exactly the same boost as FPV GT-F you know it is over on a quarter mile for your modern car but I admit in a track situation handling is a major factor and would most likely see the modern car as the victor and also fuel economy stakes. (( however I have seen plenty of 10 and eleven second old school falcons (quarter mile times) without blowers)) and this is way back in the early 90's when I was going to drag strips so I highly doubt it would walk away as the victor (my opinion and I agree to disagree with you on this)
like I said I agree to disagree and yes most of the cars at the drags were modified but you could have "blueprinted and balanced" ported and polished the heads played with various cam grinds cc'ed the engine all in your own garage at home and go run 11's 12's all day on the skinny tyres as you say, well what if we put the same size tyres on one as well as the supercharger it would easily walk away from the new car and if we bothered to add hill born fuel injection and toss the carb over our shoulder wow so left for dead, and all cars are mechano sets as you say and 140 mph as you say was not the speed when it crossed the line for 14.4 sec if it crossed the the line at 140 mph ((maybe diff gearing could be played with to achieve this from factory as it may have been an option although 3.25 gears springs to mind)) it would have done 11's 12's if it hooked up at its top speed across the line but as we all know if you go to lower gears top speed is affected so it may have more likely been mid or low 13's without to many mods other than diff ratio any way again i agree to disagree and I wouldn't know much from my 20 yrs as a mechanic, what are the quarter mile times from this car in "factory" trim I can not seem to find many figures weight of car diff ratios etc etc but basically in the beginning as i said comparing supercharged cars to N/A is just ridiculous to say the least do we compare pro stock cars to door slammers (slightly unfair if you did) same goes here and yes I love old cars because they were made by hands not robots. PS I have enjoyed this conversation
I have a 2014 FG boss 335 GT with 25.5 ks on the clock
What's the aspiration for the gt f?
Alot of the points you make about the XY are due to age of the car rather than design, like the brakes for example of course its never going to stop quickly but you can achieve a firm brake pedal feel with some adjustments.
Who care firm brake feel if it don't stop.
So no more Typhoon or F6 as well then ?
He makes the comment XY GT's had a amps gauge at 5.01 - sorry no amp gauge, only oil, temp, fuel, tacho & speedo. They do have an amp warning light.
@ 5:41 WOW notice the twin tips of n the back bouncing around, WOW for Built no1 of 500 & its doing that, which can only mean 1 thing, they disconnected the CAT back system for the trip to the strip, its all about the hipe like i said Found On Rubbish Dump F O R D for every one lol :)
I'd never sell a GTHO to a foreign collector. These Aussie muscle cars should remain here.
Money is money pay me it's yours.
If a car is up for auction, anyone can buy it. Thats why they disappear from our shores.
Like the Sultan of Brunei who has world's largest car collection: 7000.
Look him up here on UA-cam.
YOU JUST CANT COMPARE,XY GT WINS EVERY TIME
Even though I am a huge fan of Ford, and I drive a FG G6E, but if I had to choose between the GT F or the XY GTHO, I would rather have the legend, the XY GTHO
Yes you only live --twice
The GT-F won't live up to the legend of the XY unless it can win at Bathurst in road going form.
Agreed 100%
The FG still looks like a Taxi inside! And of course it should be quicker than the XY and drive better. Funny though, I had a 71 XY Fairmont Auto with the 351 and it had power steering. But if I had a choice, I would take the XY and keep my SS Ute!
Forgot the brakes test. From 200kph
Actually the XY GTHO phase3 is THE most legendary car EVER in Aus! Fact! Sorry Holden and GM wankers.
I'm watching in 2016 so the FGX sprint is already out
if you swap car wheels the drag race would be very close
mighty good
XY any day
Remove the rev limiter on the xy and put some decent rubber on the back.and lucky for the new ford this xy ho doesnt have the 3.9 gears
I'm sure quite a few American cars with two less doors were just as fast. Must belong to a different category because it has two extra doors. I fail to see the distinction apart from that.
Calm down, nothing was as good as the xy gt-ho back in the day
This guy doesn't wanna give up and face the facts.
I miss my Datsun 180b.
hahahhaah how could anyone miss a 180b
Some people miss their 120Y's!
Why was the GTF not put up against a GTHO instead of the GT?
The Ho Ho would have put up a bigger fight to the GTF than the standard GT
There's two points to make here. 1. Find someone with a respectable condition GTHO that would be willing to loan it to a review organisation to drag race it. 2. I'm sure ford would not want their top shelf car of 2014 to be beaten or even close to matched by a 40 year old car.
Yea I suppose that is true Hey, what magnificent cars the old XW/XY GT's. Were hey
I just looked on carsales and saw one for $450000 :o
a new GTF? or the HoHo?
Xy gtho
These reviews are just, meh.
For a start the XY is far better looking, sounds BETTER!
XY is Raw Brutal, a Real mans car, the GTF is a computer controlled, clinical, when you start having fun the computer in all modern cars comes in and says NO thats enough, and over rides ( it is called traction control ).
You do realise you can turn off traction and stability control with the press of 1 button..
@@mrbrad4637 i would have the old one anyday!!!!
Really should have been the new bodystyle
So ..It took Ford 40 years and a whole heap of computer crap to take 2 seconds off the XY...Long like the xy.. Lets see how much that piece of plastic ford they call a GT is worth in 40 years hahaha
tbf the gtf probably weighs double the xy purely because of safety features/creature comforts.
It be worth more then a Holden,like all fords do
They have standards at ford, they don’t produce cars to run 8 seconds or so 400kph. It’s a nice cruise car for the final ever. Stop being a fkn idiot
The actual explanation for this is fuel changing from leaded to unleaded (catalytic converters in the 70's), tightening emissions for all cars and that car weighs a lot less.
Xy the true and only muscle car will never be any car that will take this cars prestige.
For more Aussie Ford Action go to: Type 49 Racing Channel on You Tube and go to Ford Australia Blues!!
The Super Roo rules1
If i has one phase three i would not swap it for ten FPV's.
Just look at that shit box axle tramp at 5:41!
Naturally aspirated.
Without seeing the video, the later version should kill the original.
Lol what the hell is a Kilowatt? Those things have electric motors in em?
The world (apart from USA) has gone metric mate, you never noticed?
How about this buy a older Holden or FORD & spend over 150K on it & we will see who will have a better car in the end, especially when using all the mod cons we have today, so if FORD are going to sell you cars that they want you to pay over $150K ,then it better come up to spec with the euro cars that are asking that much as a standard road car. :)
The guy who bought it is a speculator.
You can buy much better cars for $150.000.
He'll hold on to it, never drive it and hope someone gives him a million for it one day.
@@onacidracing Hoping to get three million in another 4 years.
I never understood the jargon. Call it a Ford GT
Not much faster over the 1/4 mile, you'd think the difference would be considerably more after 40 years!!
Brakes no existent in xy. For a 140mph car
That xy gt better interior than new ford, and 50 times more muscle
Normally aspirated? Find another job mate, cars aren't your strong point.
and at the end of the day Holden is better tougher
But Chrysler Charger R/T Hemi 6 was faster down the Quarter Mile ...
and looked way cooler than the bus falcon tank
No Holden or Charger from that era could match the top end of a GTHO Phase 3.The fastest one was recorded at 154 mph at Bathurst.
I mean lets be honest, the Falcon GT was slow as fuck and handled like a dogs breakfast like most of the cars back then, not hard to make an improvement on performance. but then you take something that looks so tough and iconic and make it look like a taxi. thats pretty fucked.
This host what ever you want to call him needs to get a grip does he not realise it’s almost a 50 year old car and he is still picking it to pieces like wind through the doors,no headrest and even a shacky gear knob😂
The XY is a mock up GT. No original
meetdeaths and what difference is there, same body, same specs, same car
Allyn Cooper Its not the same specs, different suspension, drive train, engine spec etc.
meetdeaths not if it's built properly............that's my point
who needs family get a gtho
you said it does mid 12’s let’s find out
and you ran the quarter and didn’t give either of the times
bad presenting and how fucking frustrating
lucky it’s just ford shit anyway
Too much plastic.......faster, but cheap looking
Cant beat chrome👍 Soon we will have a GT made in Korea with all this Plastic being added too them
First On Race Day.
Fucked On Race Day
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Another reviewer whilst driving being too busy looking at the camera - instead of the road. Constantly...
What a waste of u tube space really, why dont they compare that same GT F with the GEN F HSV GTS, after all its the top of the ranges for both manufacture's ? Anything to have FORD as something special when in fact its nothing new, just believe in the hipe about a car, when it comes down to it, so if the insurance company's agree with the pricing, NOPE unless you want to pay for chosen Value then pay for it. :)
Here, here, so much carry on about the GTF when HSV has been making cars that out accelerate & out handle this thing since 2013.... in reality the GTf compared with the LSA clubsport, the clubsport is same money, more features & at least if not quicker in a straight line... Oh & much better inclusions & technology.. Hell the seats are 20 times nicer.. Ford is overpriced considering.
Some people prefer FORDS dummy
How many lsa's do you see on the road? Fucking none. 100g for 300rwkw hahahha that's fg xr6t with a tune power levels. No one buys holdens. Boosted fpvs and boosted sixes are the ideal platform for big cheap reliable power. Hsv is dead.
A 400 kw LSA clubsport can be had for 76k new now, with it comes a bigger diff, bigger box, (both oil cooled) nice brakes, 100 times nicer seats & interior, collision alert, & park assist. On top of that an air box & simple tune take them to 475 kw. And these things have been tested to death & have proven to be bullet proof. I have an XR6 turbo, as do some mates, Ive had my turbo lunch itself early, my mates one also, $1200 to rebuild. And another friend had his G6 turbo lunch itself in first 50 000k.... They are neat cars, but not even in remotely the same league as an LSA. As for 300 rwkw, read the articles floating around about how ford tried to supress the first results, then look at their carry on, others have also got dyno results of 311 rwkw from heaps of miamis. Regarless every single video still shows every GTS auto or manual flogging the ford... Even after the ford has 55 goes to get its overboost on... And 85 ford engineers present to make sure it actually went. HSV didn't say a word, only ford whining Hahahaha
+never late over boosts is a timing map. Like any boosted car it shouldn't be on boost until all engine temps are up. Yeah they only get beaten by journalists. Go to the track where 245 wheels aren't fitted and watch them run low 12s. Unlike the Holden there's no traction below 3rd gear. Sucks all your 6ts are shit mine makes a happy 490rwkw on 20psi all for under 10g and hasn't missed a beat for 2.5 years and 70thou ks.
tge gt hasnt "evolved "
....... I'm a holden fan and I love the XY GT......... But never have I seen such a flop onwards, their cars are soft and sluggish. And are generally very "cheap" but not in a good oh this car was actually pretty cheap. You are still paying the same amount but getting less for your money over quite a few commodore models. Not here to hate, both these cars are awesome. But I just have to point out that ford has been forgotten in the media for quite some time and its not because they have "been paid off by holden"........
***** Whats wrong with the LS1's? Heaps of parts, and even more performance parts. Albeit the engine is lacking a lot while stock standard but its very cheap to do one up with a cam+rockers package.
***** LOL I'm sure the LS series is just as good mate. Reliability is proven and so is performance. There isn't anything wrong with either engines leave it at that.
***** Yes. Very factual indeed.
+aussie shovel maybe in Australia but the ford 427 killed chev and molar. look up ford thunderbolt
Warren Heslip Yeah Ford of america are pretty good I don't like Chevrolet's line up of muscle cars. Cant beat the new Corvette though :PP Would KILL for one man!
Fastest 4 door my arse. The Ford guys always say that.
I believe the Mercedes Benz 300SEL 6.3L was much faster 4 door sedan . The AMG 6.8L version was faster again.
428 hp, 610 nm. top speed of 265 km/h
It's not the ford guys, it's the car guys and it is fact champ.
And the merc was made in 1970 right lol
+mick warby
when was it made Mick ? 1970/71 bone head
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The HO had a top speed of 142 MPH, the 1968-72 Mercedes 300SEL 6.3 had a top speed of 137 MPH. The Daimler/Jaguar V12 was the first to knock the GTHO off it's perch at 153 MPH in 1973.
YEAH YEAH YEAH, so its a bit quicker, faster and quieter, BUT its also like spending a night with an ugly chick! might be fun to do but you just hope your mates don't find out about it! Ph3 EVERYDAY! years to come all the plastic on that new thing will be all hard brittle and cracked and there wont be much available to restore one with only a small run of 500 or so!
Long way short of the legend
Chassis and power transfer all wrong not stable or confident at any speed save your $$$
Ridiculous comparison. Utter waste of time.