Sorry for being late to the party, but currently enjoying a deep dive into some of your older videos! You do such a great job of swatching and giving us a basic writing sample without getting too in the weeds with water fastness, etc., I really enjoy how many different inks you can cover in a ~15 min video. Thanks for all your work!
Yeah it's difficult because some will see them as blue with a hint of green or green with a hint of blue, or a turquoise even. I've tried to categorize them in the colour they say they are, but as hues and palettes merge and collide, they could easily fall into different colour categories.
It sure is a great colour, I'm glad Montblanc didn't discontinue the ink in their latest cull but disappointed they did discontinue Montblanc Corn Poppy Red.
I really love your ink comparisons. Thank you for continuing them. Diamine Smoke on the Water is my favorite ink of all time! But as far as greens go, I think of it as more blue. In the really green inks, I use Kaweco Palm Green, J Herbin Lierre Sauvage, and Graf v F-C Moss Green. It would be very difficult to say which of those I like the best.
Thanks Michelle, glad you're enjoying the videos! I really want to love Diamine Smoke on the Water but for me I find it's just not the kind of green I like, maybe I need to try and force myself to write with it more and I'll start to like it more?
Mike Sherwood green is the one for me i have had it on my list for sometime. I like my greens to be on the dark side and seeing what it roughly looks like via your video it is a must. Thanks for the video .
Thanks Manuel! That's always been my objective as so many inks go on the page wet and massively change colour by the time they have dried. I also wanted to try and capture the ink dried to show the sheening and shading properties as I find a lot of ink reviews only show it when wet.
Nice colours! I may pick up a green ink someday, when I run out of blue, black red and purple. Green will probably be substituting the purple, when that day comes.
Agreed - that Visconti green is a Teal which occurred to me as soon as you'd made up the swatch. Sherwood green is lovely, like a liquid moss green. I prefer traditional coloured inks v the more 'new' age, neon ones.
I've recorded a bunch of new videos this week, they probably won't air for a month but they will have single and multiple passes so you can see the difference :-)
Thanks Dave for another great ink review. I believe I have watched them all. If I can make one suggestion - could you cover only half of the swatch with the second pass of the Q tip ? I find the ink looks more like the single pass when actually used in my pen. Anyway I would appreciate being able to see both a single pass and a double pass. Thanks
Hi David, yes I've recorded a bunch more ink comparison videos this week which will have a single and multi-pass but they won't probably air until August once I've foudn time to edit them.
The Mont Blanc Irish Green and the Pelikan Edelstein are the only two inks I'd buy out of that batch. Like you I tend to prefer the mid level grass greens. Kaweco have a nice Palm Green that unfortunately I've found seems to accumulate some thick syrupy muck on the bottom of the bottle.
Not sure if you’ve tried Diamine Salamander. It’s one of my favourites....a dark green, almost black-green, and it shows up beautifully on both formal and informal writing.
I haven't tried Diamine Salamander yet but it's been in my shopping cart a few times but got removed as I was trying to not buy too many ink bottles at once and just trying to hit free shipping.
I generally tend to gravitate towards MB Irish Green and Diamine Sherwood Green (which does not strike me as particularly dark). After your review #1, I purchased Van Huysum's Sapgroen, very happy with it. Also discovered Sailor Shikiori Tokiwa-matsu, a subtle olive green.
I like the Edelstein A(d)venturine the best, the shading is very visible in the writing. I must confess that I don't understand sheen - it is almost never visible in writing, only in very thick swabs, so what's the thrill about that? Even in my Pelikan M800 broad nib, the so called sheening inks don't really show that in writing, although this is a very wet pen/nib. Shading on the other hand is for me what makes fountain pen writing characteristic. The Edelstein inks I have are quite shady . I have the Aventurine, Star Ruby and Mandarin. Great test, I was just about to ink our new M1000 with it today. ❤️
Sheen typically will happen if the ink is very saturated in dye content, but even then you will only see it on really good quality paper like Tomoe River. Even then it can be marginal depending on the ink and sheen. I also have some broad nibs that inks just refuse to sheen in but others they will sheen very well. I think it really helps to have a super wet nib. I've seen some people write in fine and extra fine nibs and still get sheen out of some inks but I have never managed to get sheen on anything less than a medium nib.
I had the Visconti Green included with my Homo Sapiens Jade pen and I was really disappointed, because someone at Visconti must be colorblind. You need to have a turquoise classification for some of those inks because they sure aren't green. I find that Goulet Pen has pretty good judgement on colors, although they do have some that don't seem correct to me.
Yeah the Visconti Green kind of sits in a number of different colour categories, some think it's more of a bluish green, others a tealish green and others a turquoise green. I too have found Goulet ink colour correction better than other retailers.
Smoke on the Water is a very concentrated dye. Providing you don't let the ink dry up it should be okay, although you might find with the concentrated dyes that the ink windows or demonstrators might stain.
green is a difficult colour to write with, nice video. The visconti is nice even though is close to blue; I will give it a try. The montblanc looks nice and would be my choice if I ever decide to write with green colour ink. What is the fountain pen that you are using?
Cameras and monitors. I use Sherwood Green and it is nothing like the colour I am getting on my screen from your video. With a Wet Lame medium nib. I would also say that other reviews I have seen show Sherwood Green as being very similar to the ink I have in the real.
The colour on the video of Sherwood Green is exactly how I see it in real life. I suspect my bottle being a 5 yr old bottle could have gone through a number of different batch formulas and has changed colour slightly in newer batches. I know this happens with some ink providers more than others.
@@PenultimateDave O.K. Taken on board. Watching again I can see the Mont Blanc Green seems true to life. My Sherwood Green, newish bottle is much more like the Mont Blanc. And, yes, a couple of times I've had Diamine inks change hue on me. A very nicely done review. Thank you.
Hi. Thanks for the good review. I am using my 149 (M) with Mont Blanc Irish Green ink and its performing awesome. I recently changed my ink (of course after cleaning it well) to Mont Blanc Mystery Black then my pen started giving troubles, it skips in between often. Then I again changed back to Irish Green then again it started performing well. I am facing serious problem with Mystery Black ink. Tried 3 other diffrent pens (Twisbi Go (F) Sheaffer Award (M), Parker urban (M)) every where I had the issue of skips in between & writes dry and having to prime the nib often. Also I tried inking it to Gama Supreme (Eye dropper M) pen (usually writes wet) but it is also showing similar problems. Can u pls guide what is going wrong here.
Some inks can have lubricants to help the ink flow more, other inks can be dry and some dry inks can have lubricants added but some do not. When you hit into a problem with an ink like this then it can write dry or hard start or skip. Paper can be a cause if you're using some less absorbent paper like Rhodia. If you are trying it in a C/C you could try flushing out the converter and try washing the inside of the converter (flushing it) with soapy water. The other thing you can do is with an ink syringe or toothpick just dab a drop of dish liquid soap into the converter and see if that helps the surface tension to help the ink flow better. Outside of that, you may just want to try a different ink.
Great comparisons. I too prefer green inks to look green like the shades of lush mowed lawns. The fountain pen used in this video looks interesting. What is it?
Have tried monteverde Yosemite green? If so how would it compare with the Sherwood green because Yosemite green is a delicious green.... P.S couldn’t think of an adjective to describe the color.... its my faaaaaavorite green.
You say adventurine is dry? It’s understandable.... pelican inks were designed more on the affect of the pelican nibs as they are “fire hoses” as you’ve dubbed some nibs.... they’re brilliant for their pairing of the writing experience. Of course you know this already.... it’s my little discovery.... though I know my way around the pen still trying to find my own niche hence the “name change” hint, hint.... Excuse the long “typing” just imagine if this was a handwritten letter.
Yes most Pelikan inks are supposed to be dry although I've always had the believe that Edelstein inks were more lubricated, but still some Edelstein inks I find dry.
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That´s funny my Visconti green does´nt look like that at all, it´s more like the irish green or adventurine. I can see that there is some blue in it but not that much.Maybe they have changed the formula.
Oooh now you've peaked my interest. The reason being is I used to use Visconti Green a lot and then after a while I stopped using it. When I started using it I was using it from the newer style plastic bottles, but I received a couple of Visconti's pens with the old style rectangular glass bottle and more lately (last year or two) I've been using those up instead. Now I'm wondering if you might be right and maybe they did change the formula or maker of inks. I will have to compare my plastic and glass bottles.
@@PenultimateDave Yes keep us posted, can´t exactly say how old my ink is but i think I got somewhere before christmas. The colour you showed looks beautiful in its own way though.
Never had a pen without Irish Green in it. Just love it 🙂 Hmm, Blue-Green is Turquoise it is not Green. 🧐 The Diamine ink is not even Green so why is that there? This is one of the strangest Green ink videos I’ve ever seen. If it’s not Green then it doesn’t belong 😂 Should have just called this a Turquoise review.
The pen is the William Shakour Titan, it’s a pen made by a UK Pen Collector William Shakour. I have a review of two of his Titan's at ua-cam.com/video/2lJrH6Y4Ebw/v-deo.html and another one at ua-cam.com/video/dweMrPGta5s/v-deo.html He doesn’t have a website, he’s on Instagram as instagram.com/williamshakour and can make pens to order.
That smoke on the water isn’t green at all. You really need to try Organic studios Frog Green shimmer! It’s really something. That aventurine looks way darker in my pelikan pastel green pen. Strange.
Maybe chromatologists, if there are such men, have clear guidelines for what qualifies a color to be considered green, like how horse people consider white horses gray unless they have pink skin instead of gray around their loose and eyes, but I’m kind of simple like you. I like it if they call blue green blue green. Edit: some of the off-green greens are really attractive though, nonetheless.
I think that's probably the reason why I still have 3/4 of a bottle left of the ink, I prefer my green's to look green and my blues to look blue. When it starts getting muddied between colours is when I start to dislike the colours.
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Sorry for being late to the party, but currently enjoying a deep dive into some of your older videos! You do such a great job of swatching and giving us a basic writing sample without getting too in the weeds with water fastness, etc., I really enjoy how many different inks you can cover in a ~15 min video. Thanks for all your work!
Glad you like them!
Nice, I have many of these inks, but I think I would categorize many of them in the blue ink category.
Yeah it's difficult because some will see them as blue with a hint of green or green with a hint of blue, or a turquoise even. I've tried to categorize them in the colour they say they are, but as hues and palettes merge and collide, they could easily fall into different colour categories.
Never had a pen without Irish Green in it. Just love it 🙂
It sure is a great colour, I'm glad Montblanc didn't discontinue the ink in their latest cull but disappointed they did discontinue Montblanc Corn Poppy Red.
Amazing comparison of inks, thank you so much for sharing this.
I really love your ink comparisons. Thank you for continuing them. Diamine Smoke on the Water is my favorite ink of all time! But as far as greens go, I think of it as more blue. In the really green inks, I use Kaweco Palm Green, J Herbin Lierre Sauvage, and Graf v F-C Moss Green. It would be very difficult to say which of those I like the best.
Thanks Michelle, glad you're enjoying the videos! I really want to love Diamine Smoke on the Water but for me I find it's just not the kind of green I like, maybe I need to try and force myself to write with it more and I'll start to like it more?
Really enjoyed this green ink video, Dave. My favorite green ink is Monteverde Yosemite Green. It had lovely shading. Thanks again for your video.
I need to give Monteverde Yosemite Green a try sometime!
Irish Green is a favourite of SBRE Brown. "Smoke on the water" should be Deep Purple. Brilliant band. 😀.
Bass to that!
Deep Purple is the best! I love Jon Lord!
Mike Sherwood green is the one for me i have had it on my list for sometime. I like my greens to be on the dark side and seeing what it roughly looks like via your video it is a must. Thanks for the video .
Like that Montblanc Irish Green is true to the color. Second favorite is the Diamond Smoke on the Water, such a unique color and a bit mesmerizing.
Video very well done. Excellent lighting and perfect timing that allows the ink to dry in your overview.
Thanks Manuel! That's always been my objective as so many inks go on the page wet and massively change colour by the time they have dried. I also wanted to try and capture the ink dried to show the sheening and shading properties as I find a lot of ink reviews only show it when wet.
Irish Green 👍... my favorite green is Private Reserve DC Supershow Green. Private Reserve Avocado is a great darker green too.
I love the Irish Green 🙂
Monteverde Malachite is one of my favorite greens
The Montblanc Irish green is lovely
Nice colours! I may pick up a green ink someday, when I run out of blue, black red and purple. Green will probably be substituting the purple, when that day comes.
Agreed - that Visconti green is a Teal which occurred to me as soon as you'd made up the swatch. Sherwood green is lovely, like a liquid moss green. I prefer traditional coloured inks v the more 'new' age, neon ones.
Monteverde makes some nice greens also.
I think I have 3x Monteverde inks now, the California Teal, Key Lime Pie and Strawberry Shortcake and I love all of those!
Olivine I have. Like it.
I think when anyone does two passes on a swatch distorts the color. It is not the way it appears on paper from a fountain pen.
I've recorded a bunch of new videos this week, they probably won't air for a month but they will have single and multiple passes so you can see the difference :-)
Thanks Dave for another great ink review. I believe I have watched them all. If I can make one suggestion - could you cover only half of the swatch with the second pass of the Q tip ? I find the ink looks more like the single pass when actually used in my pen. Anyway I would appreciate being able to see both a single pass and a double pass. Thanks
Hi David, yes I've recorded a bunch more ink comparison videos this week which will have a single and multi-pass but they won't probably air until August once I've foudn time to edit them.
Penultimate Dave Great. Thanks. Looking forward to them.
The Mont Blanc Irish Green and the Pelikan Edelstein are the only two inks I'd buy out of that batch. Like you I tend to prefer the mid level grass greens. Kaweco have a nice Palm Green that unfortunately I've found seems to accumulate some thick syrupy muck on the bottom of the bottle.
Diamine Teal and Krishna Super Rich Elegant Teal are my favorite greens.
Visconti Green looks very interesting & pleasant, without hitting your eyes 👌🏻
Some really surprising greens here!
Sherwood! ❤✨
Not sure if you’ve tried Diamine Salamander. It’s one of my favourites....a dark green, almost black-green, and it shows up beautifully on both formal and informal writing.
I haven't tried Diamine Salamander yet but it's been in my shopping cart a few times but got removed as I was trying to not buy too many ink bottles at once and just trying to hit free shipping.
I love Salamander too. Like a dusky-dark green. It's similar to Beaufort Ink Scots Pine.
Noodler's Greune Cactus is a nice mid green.
maybe I'm bias that I love the Montblanc Irish Green most of all those colours as I am Irish
Irish green is an excellent color.
Try Private Reserve Sherwood Green. It has a lovely hue.
I generally tend to gravitate towards MB Irish Green and Diamine Sherwood Green (which does not strike me as particularly dark). After your review #1, I purchased Van Huysum's Sapgroen, very happy with it. Also discovered Sailor Shikiori Tokiwa-matsu, a subtle olive green.
Akkerman Van Huysum's Sapgroen really has spoiled me for greens now, it's my go to ink, that and Akkerman Bezuidenwoudgroen.
I like the Edelstein A(d)venturine the best, the shading is very visible in the writing. I must confess that I don't understand sheen - it is almost never visible in writing, only in very thick swabs, so what's the thrill about that? Even in my Pelikan M800 broad nib, the so called sheening inks don't really show that in writing, although this is a very wet pen/nib. Shading on the other hand is for me what makes fountain pen writing characteristic. The Edelstein inks I have are quite shady . I have the Aventurine, Star Ruby and Mandarin. Great test, I was just about to ink our new M1000 with it today. ❤️
Sheen typically will happen if the ink is very saturated in dye content, but even then you will only see it on really good quality paper like Tomoe River. Even then it can be marginal depending on the ink and sheen. I also have some broad nibs that inks just refuse to sheen in but others they will sheen very well. I think it really helps to have a super wet nib. I've seen some people write in fine and extra fine nibs and still get sheen out of some inks but I have never managed to get sheen on anything less than a medium nib.
@@PenultimateDave Thanks 👍
Montblanc Irish green
I use Diamine Emerald. I was expecting it in the review.
That's one Diamine ink I don't have yet.
Nice Greens!!
I had the Visconti Green included with my Homo Sapiens Jade pen and I was really disappointed, because someone at Visconti must be colorblind. You need to have a turquoise classification for some of those inks because they sure aren't green. I find that Goulet Pen has pretty good judgement on colors, although they do have some that don't seem correct to me.
Yeah the Visconti Green kind of sits in a number of different colour categories, some think it's more of a bluish green, others a tealish green and others a turquoise green. I too have found Goulet ink colour correction better than other retailers.
You know ounce in a while you could try Pelikan 4001 or sheifer
i was wondering how is sherwood green compared to irish green:) thanks for the video
Would you say it's OK to use the Diamine Smoke on the Water in a MB 149?
Smoke on the Water is a very concentrated dye. Providing you don't let the ink dry up it should be okay, although you might find with the concentrated dyes that the ink windows or demonstrators might stain.
green is a difficult colour to write with, nice video. The visconti is nice even though is close to blue; I will give it a try. The montblanc looks nice and would be my choice if I ever decide to write with green colour ink. What is the fountain pen that you are using?
I would say the three in the middle are really the only greens. Try dealtrmentis doc green is a good green and it is waterproof.
Cameras and monitors. I use Sherwood Green and it is nothing like the colour I am getting on my screen from your video. With a Wet Lame medium nib. I would also say that other reviews I have seen show Sherwood Green as being very similar to the ink I have in the real.
The colour on the video of Sherwood Green is exactly how I see it in real life. I suspect my bottle being a 5 yr old bottle could have gone through a number of different batch formulas and has changed colour slightly in newer batches. I know this happens with some ink providers more than others.
@@PenultimateDave O.K. Taken on board. Watching again I can see the Mont Blanc Green seems true to life. My Sherwood Green, newish bottle is much more like the Mont Blanc. And, yes, a couple of times I've had Diamine inks change hue on me. A very nicely done review. Thank you.
Hi. Thanks for the good review. I am using my 149 (M) with Mont Blanc Irish Green ink and its performing awesome. I recently changed my ink (of course after cleaning it well) to Mont Blanc Mystery Black then my pen started giving troubles, it skips in between often. Then I again changed back to Irish Green then again it started performing well. I am facing serious problem with Mystery Black ink. Tried 3 other diffrent pens (Twisbi Go (F) Sheaffer Award (M), Parker urban (M)) every where I had the issue of skips in between & writes dry and having to prime the nib often. Also I tried inking it to Gama Supreme (Eye dropper M) pen (usually writes wet) but it is also showing similar problems. Can u pls guide what is going wrong here.
Some inks can have lubricants to help the ink flow more, other inks can be dry and some dry inks can have lubricants added but some do not. When you hit into a problem with an ink like this then it can write dry or hard start or skip. Paper can be a cause if you're using some less absorbent paper like Rhodia. If you are trying it in a C/C you could try flushing out the converter and try washing the inside of the converter (flushing it) with soapy water. The other thing you can do is with an ink syringe or toothpick just dab a drop of dish liquid soap into the converter and see if that helps the surface tension to help the ink flow better. Outside of that, you may just want to try a different ink.
@@PenultimateDave thanks a lot will try for sure
Great comparisons. I too prefer green inks to look green like the shades of lush mowed lawns. The fountain pen used in this video looks interesting. What is it?
The pen is a 3D Printed pen called the Titan made by William Shakour in the UK on Instagram - instagram.com/williamshakour
Many thanks.
Have tried monteverde Yosemite green? If so how would it compare with the Sherwood green because Yosemite green is a delicious green....
P.S couldn’t think of an adjective to describe the color.... its my faaaaaavorite green.
I haven't tried Yosemite green yet, it's one I keep looking at to order at some point.
Pilot iroshizuku chiku-rin?
smoke on the water should have been called dragons skin or something, very cool color!~
Hi, May I ask what diamine green ink that is closest to montblanc irish green jn your opinion?
I haven't found one that close but you could try something like Diamine Sherwood Forest.
When is green not green? When it’s blue perhaps?
Diamine Marine is green? I will see my eye doctor.
I’m searching for an alternative to Parker Quink Emerald. Any suggestions?
I don't have Parker Quink Emerald but from what I've seen from swatches it looks similar to Diamine Sherwood Green.
I discovered there are 2 tones of Emerald green, the newer Parker emerald green is more bluish, while the older ink is darker...
I know you're a guy, but I wish you'd do pink inks ~ I'm searching for one similar to a bright one that Levenger no longer makes.
You mean like this Pink Inks Comparison? ua-cam.com/video/Wz5QYdz5MVA/v-deo.html
@@PenultimateDave ~ Yes, please💁🏼♀️
graf von faber castel moss green is my favorite
You say adventurine is dry? It’s understandable.... pelican inks were designed more on the affect of the pelican nibs as they are “fire hoses” as you’ve dubbed some nibs.... they’re brilliant for their pairing of the writing experience. Of course you know this already.... it’s my little discovery.... though I know my way around the pen still trying to find my own niche hence the “name change” hint, hint....
Excuse the long “typing” just imagine if this was a handwritten letter.
Yes most Pelikan inks are supposed to be dry although I've always had the believe that Edelstein inks were more lubricated, but still some Edelstein inks I find dry.
Penultimate Dave now you’ve made me curious I’ll attempt to investigate.
Interestingly in many languages what is classified as green and blue are not the same as in English
Spelled “Aventurine”, fyi.
Probably should have broken down your videos into “Greens” and “Blue Greens” or “Greens” and “Teals” rather than “Greens 1” and “Greens 2”
I could have done but there might have only been 3 or 4 inks then in a video.
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@Marley Royce Yup, I've been using InstaFlixxer for months myself :)
That´s funny my Visconti green does´nt look like that at all, it´s more like the irish green or adventurine. I can see that there is some blue in it but not that much.Maybe they have changed the formula.
Oooh now you've peaked my interest. The reason being is I used to use Visconti Green a lot and then after a while I stopped using it. When I started using it I was using it from the newer style plastic bottles, but I received a couple of Visconti's pens with the old style rectangular glass bottle and more lately (last year or two) I've been using those up instead.
Now I'm wondering if you might be right and maybe they did change the formula or maker of inks. I will have to compare my plastic and glass bottles.
@@PenultimateDave Yes keep us posted, can´t exactly say how old my ink is but i think I got somewhere before christmas. The colour you showed looks beautiful in its own way though.
Now THATS a pen haha, my hands hurt just watching
To me, diamine Marine is greener than what I see in the video. More green than blue.
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Never had a pen without Irish Green in it. Just love it 🙂 Hmm, Blue-Green is Turquoise it is not Green. 🧐 The Diamine ink is not even Green so why is that there? This is one of the strangest Green ink videos I’ve ever seen. If it’s not Green then it doesn’t belong 😂 Should have just called this a Turquoise review.
What is the pen that you are using?
The pen is the William Shakour Titan, it’s a pen made by a UK Pen Collector William Shakour.
I have a review of two of his Titan's at ua-cam.com/video/2lJrH6Y4Ebw/v-deo.html and another one at ua-cam.com/video/dweMrPGta5s/v-deo.html
He doesn’t have a website, he’s on Instagram as instagram.com/williamshakour and can make pens to order.
@@PenultimateDave Thank You!
That smoke on the water isn’t green at all. You really need to try Organic studios Frog Green shimmer! It’s really something. That aventurine looks way darker in my pelikan pastel green pen. Strange.
Maybe chromatologists, if there are such men, have clear guidelines for what qualifies a color to be considered green, like how horse people consider white horses gray unless they have pink skin instead of gray around their loose and eyes, but I’m kind of simple like you. I like it if they call blue green blue green. Edit: some of the off-green greens are really attractive though, nonetheless.
Agree about the Visconti Green. Too much blue to be a true green.
I think that's probably the reason why I still have 3/4 of a bottle left of the ink, I prefer my green's to look green and my blues to look blue. When it starts getting muddied between colours is when I start to dislike the colours.
6 blues 3 green nice try but you fail!
Whoever lists Diamine "Smoke on the Water" as green should see an eye doctor.