As a San Diegan, I would NEVER go to SeaWorld. If you give money to fund them by purchasing a ticket, it is your crime. I watched Blackish years ago, and the heartache for these highly intelligent animals has never gone away. My kids have had field trips to SeaWorld and have also decided not to go. Please don't say it isn't your crime. I love your show, but that broke my heart.
1:13:56 Daughter of a narcissistic father here. My dad had a very tumultuous love hate relationship with my brother, he is exactly like him. He had a great relationship with me when I was a kid, but was emotionally absent. I do think there is some weird male competition factor, because my dad only created problems with other men (or romantic partners) so I didn’t see it in him for so long, until I got married and that behavior then reflected on my husband instead. Alcoholism is also a big factor here for my brother and father, my brother sadly passed away drinking and driving one year ago. They both treated me very well when they were present and when I was a child but I did not see either of them often at all in adulthood.
Re: giving shoutouts and it being really vulnerable for y’all to share. Your episode on fighting was SO meaningful to me and I appreciated the true vulnerability so much. It was clear how hard that one was on Amy especially and I really appreciated that human response and Matt allowing you that time to share that you were very hurt and carrying feelings with you still through that. I feel like y’all worked through that before our eyes and were a beautiful example of how your love for one another is never threatened by hurt feelings. My partner and I almost NEVER argue (we were best friends for so many years before being together) but when we do, I carry it with me for days afterward even tho he’s a bit more able to move on knowing we’re besties at our core and that we never act in malice to one another or purposely hurt each other even if our tongues get sharp in the moment. It was very real and very encouraging and I love all the healthy relationships the THT universe fam exhibit for those of us out here lovin and livin and communicating (making Justin proud!) 🖤✨
Your family was made for podcasting! I love all of them. You guys give great advice and detailed answers considering everyone's perspectives. I really like seeing all the crossovers with all of your projects 🥰
Yeah, a porn addiction is not something that I’d let slide - once your brain is rotted from porn you never view people the same way. It’s like a brain injury- there’s no coming back.
Why did I he pumpkin pie story make me think of the Friends episode where Monica’s mom hired her to cater a party, but got frozen lasagnas “just in case she pulled a Monica”😆
As someone who has done a lot of research on videos and its effects it’s awful to the brain. Even tho you don’t think you saw any signs, the fact that he wasn’t helping you around the house and putting more time into women on the internet is a huge sign. I’ve seen people loose jobs over it. I’ve heard male talk behind the scenes and how they promised their wives they would change, but said that they won’t and they think it’s stupid that their wife wants them to quit. Reality is from real talk the guys have said that they don’t see their wives as very attractive and that’s why they watched it. Now I’ve only chatted with a few couples and the men behind the scenes (bc of jobs and them wanting advice) they all said the same thing. It rewires the brain and I can look and see a difference in the men who watched and who don’t. I defs recommend doing research on it and men who watched it ON A DAILY basis. This info comes mainly from men who’ve done it on a daily to every other day basis over YEARS.
For the story about moving to Eastern WA… I currently live in the area. When I hear Eastern WA I think Spokane area (not sure if this is where you are talking about). My husband and I ended up here because I applied for jobs in a couple different states and this was the best option. We love life here. I travel to Seattle frequently for work, and both driving and flying are really easy. We also bought a house just over the border in ID earlier this year and already have about $100K in equity. The housing market is affordable but on the rise where we are so it’s a great time to buy. And that will give you the option of selling and moving back if you want. But so many people from Seattle are moving to the area and really enjoy life here. Hope this helps :)
The last story hit me hard. The criticism about life choices, sometimes we do want children, we want marriage but unresolved issues make us choose bad people. I had to talk to my mom to slow down the way she was pressured us into having children, I found my person late in life. And I have to greyrock my grandma constantly, she's a little narcissistic -- I know I can't productively talk to her. Best wishes to the last person, I for one am rooting for her ❤
My BIL and his family live 4 hours away and they are the only cousins around my kids ages. We make a day trip for important events, holidays, and go a couple times a year just to hang out. During the summer we meet them halfway for lunch and to pass off kids to give parents alone time.
Adult Content Addiction BF: I feel like yes OP does have an issue with the content being watched, but I think what is really bothering her is the amount of time spent watching vs helping her out. Especially when she mentioned that he was watching during special day ex: her birthday, I wonder if BF spent 2 hrs watching stuff, instead of planning something during those days.
Re: the story about porn addiction. My SIL admitted the same ages years ago. He ended up doing a 12 step program and counseling, my daughter also got counseling. They have moved past it and seem to be much happier.
For Morgan’s question about narcissism in mother/daughter relationships… My bf’s mom (he suspects that she’s a narc) had 3 children, a girl & two boys. She sent the girl to live with her father (whom the daughter didn’t even have a relationship with) at a young age & raised the two boys herself. Just something interesting to add to the conversation.
I had the fear of who was going to walk me down the isle too. My dad was very hostile towards my stepdad and was being dramatic at my brother’s wedding. My dad ended up passing away before I had gotten married, so that ended up not being an issue. 😅
P addiction is real and tough to walk through with someone. But healing a relationship with that involved is a choice. There are apps to help With that
The pumpkin pie story… I cut my mom off for doing this kind of 💩 years ago… I think it’s because I’m less easy to control vs my brothers. I recently heard from my youngest brother that she was on the outs with my middle brother and comparing his fiancé to me 🙄 I hope his fiancé doesn’t be a doormat to her I truly do because no one should be treated like that. The straw that broke the camels back for me was when I calmly went home when she tried to cause an arguement (looked at my partner at the time and just said I think it’s time to go, while holding back tears).. my mom went on to message everyone in my life (friends etc) flipping out on them meanwhile they didn’t even know what happened because I didn’t say anything I was waiting for things to cool down so we could talk about it in a few days but because she went completely crazy on everyone I decided to go no contact. There’s so much she done that I couldn’t forgive her, not that she’d even apologize.. every few months I’ll get a message from a fake account saying she doesn’t know what my problem is etc etc. people like that don’t know how to take any accountability whatsoever.. I can’t imagine treating my kids like that when they become adults, I always say I’m not perfect and just doing my best, if they ever told in the future that something I done while raising upset them I’d apologize and listen to what they had to say. I studied child psychology and understand why my mom is the way she is, it stems back to her own childhood but that’s not a reason to repeat bad behaviours and not do better.. like I said I’m not perfect but I still take accountability for things I do wrong.. 😕
It's so sad how many parents put their own guilt onto their children and try to make it their responsibility.. There are consequences to actions or lack of actions and presence. Deal with your own guilt, don't put it on your children.
Love you guys but SeaWorld is not a good place to support. Boycotting it would prevent extensive psychological damage to various aquatic animals among other terrible things SeaWorld is responsible for.
About the narcissist mothers with daughters, it is very difficult. I can get along with my mother just fine hanging out with her but being with her for long periods of time or living with her, not possible at all.
NTA The whole "hurt their feelings" things is bull crap You already cominsated by including them in half of your vacation Now they're basicly highjacking the trip you planned and took over I think you could have a chance if he agrees to therapy both for his addiction but also couple councelling But only if you truly believe it's worth salvaging This is hard but I'm sure that your sibblings will support you going to help your grandmother Also consider renting a house especially if it's going to be short term Advice Go ahead and tell him not to come True your stepdad isn"t your "real" Dad but it's not as tough you chose your stepdad over him And maybe Mr. High and mighty needs to be reminded he could still be married to your Mom if he'd kept it in his pants You're not getting upset over pie You're getting upset because your mother is a selfish minipulitive control freak witch Making pumpkin pie as a back up dessertis perfectly okay but backup implies you bring out both desserts And the "Lets not mix too many flavors together argument is stupid Most Thanksgiving meals have multiple dessert and pumpkin and maple actually go well together More to the point you went through a mental health crisis Take it from someonewho's been there That's not you messing up your life that's life messing you up I never would have made it through without my Mom so it sucked to hear yours could make you feel bad
I mean, if the research hasn’t been done we can’t say that for sure, for everyone though right? Things are rarely as simple as we think they are when we look at data.
Steer clear from ppl with porn addictions. 9/10 times they will cheat and it does tend to go hand and hand with being lazy like not doing house work and being irresponsible
The story about the websites, did op explain her boundaries with p*** ahead of time? It is completely fine to not want that in your relationship and completely fine to leave if this doesn't work for you.
As a mom who is pretty much always alone with my toddler. There is no way i couldnt help you. Id be a bit nervous or apprehensive but i would make a call for you. Theres no way i could look at you and your son and not help. I know people are hating on seaworld but from a parent standpoint i can understand. Doesnt make it right. But im sure everyone has made certain choices that maybe they shouldnt have. These people are 99% great so they did something tou dont agree with. Its ok. Were allowed to make different choices.
Hot take even if he was watching porn every day if you didn’t have a discussion about that being a deal breaker from the start you shouldn’t be mad at him. Now if you want to leave him because you’re tired of having a partnership that you feel isn’t equitable that’s fine but it doesn’t really have anything to do with the porn.
As a Swedish person I find the perception on porn by Americans. (it is always Americans bc it's embedded in your culture) so extremely weird and unhealthy. There is absolutely nothing wrong with watching porn? And the reason men in usa actually gets addicted watching porn I think it's a problem with your sexual education tbh. I get weirded out everytime there is such a taboo about Sex topics from Americans.. It feels ridiculous. Aren't u all grown ups?
You said you take concrit so: Guy needs to learn to read as a narrator. This is my first time listening to this podcast and the out of breath slash weird rhythm really makes it difficult to focus on the story.
Can we just talk about how much op in story #2 tried to excuse her looking through his history? She had a whole story on how she ended up in his history tab. Like just admit you had access and snooped on your man. Really not a big deal unless you're doing it obsessively. That part was just a bit funny to me lol
I've been waiting for an episode with Morgan in it again! Just like the old days the gangs all back
"have little slices of each, thats what you do!"
"...or big slices"
YES. 😂❤
That was so trippy - I looked at this comment RIGHT as they were saying this lol
@@inezkatrina6810 that’s so crazy haha!
As a San Diegan, I would NEVER go to SeaWorld. If you give money to fund them by purchasing a ticket, it is your crime. I watched Blackish years ago, and the heartache for these highly intelligent animals has never gone away. My kids have had field trips to SeaWorld and have also decided not to go. Please don't say it isn't your crime. I love your show, but that broke my heart.
I wouldn’t waste your breath . I don’t expect many morals from these kind of people but fun to listen to 😂
Seriously! So weird to be aware and still go! Like what, lost some respect. I don’t care how “fun” it was for your kids.
This is my favorite family, I love it when Midwest invites Morgan on and vice versa. I can't get enough!
Morgan putting them on blast for going to sea world is amazing
1:13:56 Daughter of a narcissistic father here. My dad had a very tumultuous love hate relationship with my brother, he is exactly like him. He had a great relationship with me when I was a kid, but was emotionally absent. I do think there is some weird male competition factor, because my dad only created problems with other men (or romantic partners) so I didn’t see it in him for so long, until I got married and that behavior then reflected on my husband instead. Alcoholism is also a big factor here for my brother and father, my brother sadly passed away drinking and driving one year ago. They both treated me very well when they were present and when I was a child but I did not see either of them often at all in adulthood.
The having both dads walk you down the aisle story is so real and so close to home
Re: giving shoutouts and it being really vulnerable for y’all to share. Your episode on fighting was SO meaningful to me and I appreciated the true vulnerability so much. It was clear how hard that one was on Amy especially and I really appreciated that human response and Matt allowing you that time to share that you were very hurt and carrying feelings with you still through that. I feel like y’all worked through that before our eyes and were a beautiful example of how your love for one another is never threatened by hurt feelings. My partner and I almost NEVER argue (we were best friends for so many years before being together) but when we do, I carry it with me for days afterward even tho he’s a bit more able to move on knowing we’re besties at our core and that we never act in malice to one another or purposely hurt each other even if our tongues get sharp in the moment. It was very real and very encouraging and I love all the healthy relationships the THT universe fam exhibit for those of us out here lovin and livin and communicating (making Justin proud!) 🖤✨
Your family was made for podcasting! I love all of them. You guys give great advice and detailed answers considering everyone's perspectives. I really like seeing all the crossovers with all of your projects 🥰
Yeah, a porn addiction is not something that I’d let slide - once your brain is rotted from porn you never view people the same way. It’s like a brain injury- there’s no coming back.
Why did I he pumpkin pie story make me think of the Friends episode where Monica’s mom hired her to cater a party, but got frozen lasagnas “just in case she pulled a Monica”😆
Yay love you guys and love this podcast !
As someone who has done a lot of research on videos and its effects it’s awful to the brain. Even tho you don’t think you saw any signs, the fact that he wasn’t helping you around the house and putting more time into women on the internet is a huge sign. I’ve seen people loose jobs over it. I’ve heard male talk behind the scenes and how they promised their wives they would change, but said that they won’t and they think it’s stupid that their wife wants them to quit. Reality is from real talk the guys have said that they don’t see their wives as very attractive and that’s why they watched it. Now I’ve only chatted with a few couples and the men behind the scenes (bc of jobs and them wanting advice) they all said the same thing. It rewires the brain and I can look and see a difference in the men who watched and who don’t. I defs recommend doing research on it and men who watched it ON A DAILY basis. This info comes mainly from men who’ve done it on a daily to every other day basis over YEARS.
For the story about moving to Eastern WA… I currently live in the area. When I hear Eastern WA I think Spokane area (not sure if this is where you are talking about). My husband and I ended up here because I applied for jobs in a couple different states and this was the best option. We love life here. I travel to Seattle frequently for work, and both driving and flying are really easy. We also bought a house just over the border in ID earlier this year and already have about $100K in equity. The housing market is affordable but on the rise where we are so it’s a great time to buy. And that will give you the option of selling and moving back if you want. But so many people from Seattle are moving to the area and really enjoy life here. Hope this helps :)
The last story hit me hard. The criticism about life choices, sometimes we do want children, we want marriage but unresolved issues make us choose bad people. I had to talk to my mom to slow down the way she was pressured us into having children, I found my person late in life. And I have to greyrock my grandma constantly, she's a little narcissistic -- I know I can't productively talk to her. Best wishes to the last person, I for one am rooting for her ❤
My BIL and his family live 4 hours away and they are the only cousins around my kids ages. We make a day trip for important events, holidays, and go a couple times a year just to hang out. During the summer we meet them halfway for lunch and to pass off kids to give parents alone time.
Ya'll are so cute. I started with THT, then FKS, and now MWM. Keep up the good work!
You have to take the free child care wherever you can get it!!!!
Adult Content Addiction BF: I feel like yes OP does have an issue with the content being watched, but I think what is really bothering her is the amount of time spent watching vs helping her out. Especially when she mentioned that he was watching during special day ex: her birthday, I wonder if BF spent 2 hrs watching stuff, instead of planning something during those days.
Leaving a comment because people need to get your guys’ Midwest Married opinion more often. Love you all!!! 🫶🏼💕🎄
Re: the story about porn addiction. My SIL admitted the same ages years ago. He ended up doing a 12 step program and counseling, my daughter also got counseling. They have moved past it and seem to be much happier.
Omg this podcast is so cute ❤ you’ve got a new subscriber
For Morgan’s question about narcissism in mother/daughter relationships…
My bf’s mom (he suspects that she’s a narc) had 3 children, a girl & two boys. She sent the girl to live with her father (whom the daughter didn’t even have a relationship with) at a young age & raised the two boys herself. Just something interesting to add to the conversation.
Woohoo ❤🎉❤
Great episode!
morgan’s brother sounds SO MUCH like justin
Love you guys ❤
Great video :)
I had the fear of who was going to walk me down the isle too. My dad was very hostile towards my stepdad and was being dramatic at my brother’s wedding. My dad ended up passing away before I had gotten married, so that ended up not being an issue. 😅
Sorry that happened to you, Matt. Having only gone to WDW- I’m shocked the cast members couldn’t help you more and that people weren’t more helpful.
P addiction is real and tough to walk through with someone. But healing a relationship with that involved is a choice. There are apps to help
With that
The pumpkin pie story… I cut my mom off for doing this kind of 💩 years ago… I think it’s because I’m less easy to control vs my brothers. I recently heard from my youngest brother that she was on the outs with my middle brother and comparing his fiancé to me 🙄 I hope his fiancé doesn’t be a doormat to her I truly do because no one should be treated like that.
The straw that broke the camels back for me was when I calmly went home when she tried to cause an arguement (looked at my partner at the time and just said I think it’s time to go, while holding back tears).. my mom went on to message everyone in my life (friends etc) flipping out on them meanwhile they didn’t even know what happened because I didn’t say anything I was waiting for things to cool down so we could talk about it in a few days but because she went completely crazy on everyone I decided to go no contact. There’s so much she done that I couldn’t forgive her, not that she’d even apologize.. every few months I’ll get a message from a fake account saying she doesn’t know what my problem is etc etc. people like that don’t know how to take any accountability whatsoever.. I can’t imagine treating my kids like that when they become adults, I always say I’m not perfect and just doing my best, if they ever told in the future that something I done while raising upset them I’d apologize and listen to what they had to say.
I studied child psychology and understand why my mom is the way she is, it stems back to her own childhood but that’s not a reason to repeat bad behaviours and not do better.. like I said I’m not perfect but I still take accountability for things I do wrong.. 😕
Y’all being soooo ok with p orn is nuts to me
Matchbooks are cool!
You guys missed the snow on Thanksgiving then! It was beautiful
It's so sad how many parents put their own guilt onto their children and try to make it their responsibility.. There are consequences to actions or lack of actions and presence. Deal with your own guilt, don't put it on your children.
I’m shocked at Matt’s story from Disney, what an asshole! So sorry that happened to you.
Love you guys but SeaWorld is not a good place to support. Boycotting it would prevent extensive psychological damage to various aquatic animals among other terrible things SeaWorld is responsible for.
About the narcissist mothers with daughters, it is very difficult. I can get along with my mother just fine hanging out with her but being with her for long periods of time or living with her, not possible at all.
Scapegoat child here I was never as good as my sister's and brother. I was the different one, the heavier one
NTA The whole "hurt their feelings" things is bull crap You already cominsated by including them in half of your vacation Now they're basicly highjacking the trip you planned and took over I think you could have a chance if he agrees to therapy both for his addiction but also couple councelling But only if you truly believe it's worth salvaging This is hard but I'm sure that your sibblings will support you going to help your grandmother Also consider renting a house especially if it's going to be short term Advice Go ahead and tell him not to come True your stepdad isn"t your "real" Dad but it's not as tough you chose your stepdad over him And maybe Mr. High and mighty needs to be reminded he could still be married to your Mom if he'd kept it in his pants You're not getting upset over pie You're getting upset because your mother is a selfish minipulitive control freak witch Making pumpkin pie as a back up dessertis perfectly okay but backup implies you bring out both desserts And the "Lets not mix too many flavors together argument is stupid Most Thanksgiving meals have multiple dessert and pumpkin and maple actually go well together More to the point you went through a mental health crisis Take it from someonewho's been there That's not you messing up your life that's life messing you up I never would have made it through without my Mom so it sucked to hear yours could make you feel bad
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I wish they would do more research on how bad porn actually is in a relationship, lusting after strangers is not normal while married.
I mean, if the research hasn’t been done we can’t say that for sure, for everyone though right? Things are rarely as simple as we think they are when we look at data.
Steer clear from ppl with porn addictions. 9/10 times they will cheat and it does tend to go hand and hand with being lazy like not doing house work and being irresponsible
I was really starting to like your videos but you lost me at sea world. 🥺
The story about the websites, did op explain her boundaries with p*** ahead of time? It is completely fine to not want that in your relationship and completely fine to leave if this doesn't work for you.
As a mom who is pretty much always alone with my toddler. There is no way i couldnt help you. Id be a bit nervous or apprehensive but i would make a call for you. Theres no way i could look at you and your son and not help. I know people are hating on seaworld but from a parent standpoint i can understand. Doesnt make it right. But im sure everyone has made certain choices that maybe they shouldnt have. These people are 99% great so they did something tou dont agree with. Its ok. Were allowed to make different choices.
Morgan can introduce herself dafuqqq
Hot take even if he was watching porn every day if you didn’t have a discussion about that being a deal breaker from the start you shouldn’t be mad at him. Now if you want to leave him because you’re tired of having a partnership that you feel isn’t equitable that’s fine but it doesn’t really have anything to do with the porn.
As a Swedish person I find the perception on porn by Americans. (it is always Americans bc it's embedded in your culture) so extremely weird and unhealthy. There is absolutely nothing wrong with watching porn? And the reason men in usa actually gets addicted watching porn I think it's a problem with your sexual education tbh. I get weirded out everytime there is such a taboo about Sex topics from Americans.. It feels ridiculous. Aren't u all grown ups?
You said you take concrit so: Guy needs to learn to read as a narrator. This is my first time listening to this podcast and the out of breath slash weird rhythm really makes it difficult to focus on the story.
Can we just talk about how much op in story #2 tried to excuse her looking through his history? She had a whole story on how she ended up in his history tab. Like just admit you had access and snooped on your man. Really not a big deal unless you're doing it obsessively. That part was just a bit funny to me lol
Nah you can definitely click tabs and fall there. No snooping needed if you wouldn't have known for 2 years lol