Wetsuits for Spearfishing - Thermal imaging shows why I use a smooth skin
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- Week two of COVID-19 lockdown brings us a video all about spearfishing wetsuits and why smooth skin wetsuits are the ultimate in warmth and comfort. I go into detail about how wetsuits are made with various styles of neoprene and the pros & cons of each. Using thermal imaging we can see why a smooth skin suit is best for boat diving. I'm going to try and do a weekly video for this lockdown period so be sure to subscribe and look out for them on Monday... well depending on where you are in the world but around Monday.
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Knowing DanMann is like having your own personal freediving/spearfishing trainer. Never learned so much from the local guys. Dan truly wants to grow the sport. He’s taking training to the next level. I have to be really really busy to miss watching his latest vid.
Blowing away the competition and teaching us all new info, as usual!
Not trying to compete with anyone, just wanting to share what I know 🙂
I got my forca tree in 5 mm. Best decision ever.
But thank YOU for that video. Finally someone explained the differences of all the materials and why they‘re use to me.
Pleas keep them more explaining videos coming. It‘s boring here in lockdown Bavaria.
Commented a while back requesting more informative videos. As always, content has been fantastic! Thank you!
I just had a good time watching Smash fishing, now I get to watch this fresh new vid while eating breakfast, nice
Very informative mate, well structured for people that had no idea about the different suits as well as those that didn't know the smoothskins in depth like myself. Keep it up mate!
Best explanation of the different types of neoprene I've heard. As a SCUBA diver turned freediver, I can confirm that open cell suits are much warmer and more comfortable than traditional SCUBA wetsuits.
Thanks MB!
Great informative to the point video, thank you!!
Wishing you the best from sunny Libya!!
Great content Dan. Keeping me sane during lockdown 👌
i agree with Chris, very HIGH quality content.. Happy to watch it , good job man waiting for the next video ..
Cheers Georges 💪
Another amazing video - and this topic is so much underrated and known to people. Thanks for sharing. The Infrared cam pic is great BTW :)
Interesting and educating video once again! Might have to look into investing into both a 9mm+ smoothskin wetsuit and ‘hybrid’ 3-5mm one! Thanks for the video, keeping us all happy in lockdown :)
Great vid mate, and also the podcast with josh tebbut! Love ya work
Thanks for this video! Been trying to convince the wife to let me get one and this finally persuaded her XD
Love your video I hit like before I watch them! 😂
Keep up with the great work my Mann !!
I didn't even know there were different types of wetsuits
It actually goes further than this. Scuba diving suits for example are made of non-compressible neoprene thar doesn’t squash much as the pressure goes up with depth. They’re less flexible than a surfing suit, which would be totally useless on a dive to 30 metres as it’d go from 5mm to 1mm 😃 Then there are triathlon suits, windsports, etc.
Good information! You keep beginning good things into our sport!
Thanks for the guide, Dan.
Love the sperafishing life hoodie
I was recently in Sydney, and spearfishers were raving about Salvimar Nebula. Inspected a few myself in Adreno and they look very durable. The guys in my club (sansouchi) says they are better than a Polosub. It looks best of both worlds. I am also using 3.5 and 5.5 smoothskin custom wetsuit from a greek manufacturer XXone (currently CT diving). Mines are smooth outside and lined inside. They are not very flexible and not thermally insulating as others but they are much forgiving especially the 5.5mm one. However, if I buy a wetsuit again, I will give a Nebula a go.
Awesome. Keep-’em coming!
Great information. Something I never knew all this time.
best wetsuit review I've watched
Love this vid..Im a diver from the caribbean St.kitts to be exact .
If you are fishing at 20 meters and deeper, you should definitely use a smooth skinned diving suit if you do not want to get cold while going to the hunting area by boat. Wetsuits with a Licra or Jersey laminated outer surface do not dry out immediately when you get out of the water and will keep you cold in the wind when you go fast with the boat. Smooth skin clothes dries quickly and will not catch you cold in the wind. In deep dives, there is no friction effect and gives you freedom of movement. You just have to be extra gentle and careful when putting on and taking off.
Talking about sponsors a channel like yours definetly deserves some, reach out to all the brands you think are great if you haven't I bet some would support you if not they are crazy just look at the quality of this content 👍👌
Well, it's a slippery slope. So many creators loose their critical sense once they get sponsored and the channel becomes less genuine and trustworthy. I am not saying Daniel doesn't deserve some support cuz he certainly does. And maybe he can make it work. But I have unsubbed from plenty of channels that just became too conformist to put it nicely. E.g. most of the big camera channels are so afraid of saying anything critical now that when they do a review, you have to look for what's missing. For example, if they don't mention battery life at all it probably means it sucks... For someone like Daniel, it would perhaps make way more sense to get sponsored as part of a brand imaging strategy and it may not even be related to the spearing industry. Look at what Patagonia does in the marketing, doing amazing mini-docus on people whose values they like to be connected to. They may or may not wear Patagonia but everyone wins. Daniel could be sponsored by a company which cares about sustainability and perhaps the outdoors. Then he doesn't have to care to much about what gear he can and can not use and talk about...;)
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Great content! Love my polosub wetsuit, cheers from italy🤙
Who in their pea-brain mind would give this a thumbs down! Very informative and educational. Thanks Daniel for going through the various types always appreciate it and always eager to see what you're puttin' out. Thanks
All those manufacturer that do not sue a sandwich architecture - no middle cloth layer :)
Very good explanation Daniel, right on point mate! 🤘
I also wouldn't recommend a 3mm open cell but a 5mm is safe enough,especially if you choose not to use yamamoto and go for Heiwa or Daiwabo,
I don’t trust myself with a 5mm... maybe 6.5mm.
@@DanielMann hehe fair enough!
Does meister make a Forza 3 like wetsuit?
I am using 3mm POLOSUB Forza 3 - sandwich architecture - with a middle cloth layer and have no problems, even I use it between rocks and reefs. You are probably referring to wetsuits where there's no middle cloth layer and only pure neoprene in one sheet - yes, those simpler wetsuits are more likely to rip. >
Why not 3mm smooth skin open cell wetsuit ? I was thinking of ordering a custom one for scuba diving for maximum warmth.
Nice. Here in Patagonia all the shellfish fishermen use smooth skin suits of 10mm+ they really mess them up because of their type of work and have to patch them constantly but they still go with those because the water is 11-10 celsius and they dive for around 3 hours
Awesome explanation, thanks
Very nice video once again! I like that you make informative and educational videos! Also amazing hoodie, i have the dentex dentex, the epinefelus marginatus, the scorpaena scrofa and the octapus! Hahahaha i am getting addicted but i want one for every species i have fished!
No matter if you are just making a video in your kitchen about wetsuits or one out in the blue with stunning footage...they are all just absolutely great! It would be interesting to know what you think of camo suits as well. Thanks a lot for making the quarantine more enjoyable!
Thanks man, I appreciate the support 🙏🏻 I like black wetsuits, they make me look slimmer! But seriously, the past three major competitions I’ve been to in Europe, the top guys all had black suits. It’s about hunting technique more than anything I think.
Great insight!
Great job explaining that was super informative!
Glad it was helpful!
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They are pretty cool hoodies :-)
Any potential collab with him one day ? That would be epic!
Definitely once covid settles down.
Very informative video, well done Daniel! I am still waiting when you come for some training to Tenerife ;)
Great video once again, really interesting. I may have to dive into the piggy bank and invest in one.
Mad vid
Good job, I now want to buy myself a new wetsuit... x)
Muchas gracias por la información, muy útil, sigue así
D MAN STILL LOVEING THE VEDIO
Thank you for the help
Love your videos😍, keep it up make.
Good day my name is Junior from Jamaica I I like what you're doing and watch all of your videos I wish if I did have doors of opportunity like you guys as a diver I wish if I could on one of those lovely suit and beautiful speargun you guys use we have to make our own sometime because to buy a speargun in Jamaica if he's very expensive a speargun from 18000 to $25,000 for a speargun diving suit it is one of the hardest thing to get in Jamaica so we have to dive in our normal clothes you guys are the greatest you have everything at your fingertips and we wish Jamaica was like where you guys live you're doing a good work keep it up I love what you're doing peace out
Goodluck. But jamaica is beautiful amid the water is warm and clear. Blessed by nature.
So helpful thank you!!
You’re welcome!
I wear a 9mm Wettie open cell suit. Nice and flexible. Definitely get the wind chill effect though but dries pretty fast.
I should get myself one even though I’m in Aus and it’s pretty warm in the water here
İnceleme, anlatım vede paylaşım için teşekkürler.
(Thanks for review, explanation and sharing.)
very informative, thanks!
You're welcome!
Hey Daniel
Could you do a video on how to get better at deeper diving and good breathing tips to help you hold your breath
Love your videos
COOL VIDEO ! nice one!
When you watching all commercials about grass growing, before video.... its must be Mann!
Nice one again mr Mann ,goin to tassie in August gunna need a smooth skin I think.👌🇦🇺🧜🏻♀️
A few mates of mine used their 8.5mm smoothskin jackets from Norway in Tasmania. Said they were very comfortable.
8.5 it is then thanks for the tip👍
Your video is very educational I love what you're doing I watch a lot of diving videos I'm your your own are the best what I like about your Channel even when you miss a can you show that part it's not everyone show that part🙏👍
Daniel Mann you should come to new Zealand to spearfish it’s really nice
I have the 7.5 forza tre and its stiff but still great. Went for the 7.5 smooth skin for my next jacket way better. I also have two 5.5 smooth skin and they are amazing. Polosub all the way. You just have to be a little bit careful taking them off. Get the jacket a bit wet and put your hood on and you're good to go.
I use the 7.5mm forza tre for pants but not jacket like you say, the smooth skin is much nicer. Always have to put the hood on, funny to watch people take suits off with them putting the hood on.
I reckon it would be cool if you made a video about all the best names in spear fishing
Very interesting, great video! How awesome is that thermal camera!
Get Riffe to make smoothskin suits and we could both hear the end of Timothy’s whining about winter diving!
this video explains why my smooth skin 7mm from polo sub is so much stretchier than my 7mm from elios with the outer nylon! Dang it!
Glad it was helpful Sarah.
La importancia de un buen traje es crucial a la hora de pescar. Tambien añadir que los trajes tipo chicle tienen menos flotabilidad y se necesita usar menos lastre una gran ventaja para los que bajan hondo
im from Finnmark in norway, we have been using between 7 and 9mm open cell with the nylon. just always thought the suits were stiff. i put a order in for a 7,5mm smoothskin and it has just arrived. can`t wait to try it :D
They are so much nicer when the neoprene gets thick.
@@DanielMann finally got to try it and i love it, sooo mutch easier to put on and off to, wich is nice when it's 2 degrees outside X). caught my first king crabs too, probably because of the suit.
They are super flexible. When you’re taking them off make sure you wet the outside and keep the hood on. Will slip right off. Even better is doing it while in the water but not so fun In Finnmark 🤣
@@DanielMann will do! you are welcome to stay with us if you ever want to return to the arctic. we are not the most experienced spearos, but im 29 and have been a fisherman for about 20 of em, so i know where the halibut lives ;)
"get it on in the shower without lube" best line ever!
Thanks for the great video! For what water temperatures do you use the 5 and for which the 7 mil suits? Would you dive the mediterranean all year round with a 5? And do you think the forza tre also works for shore diving?
Certainly wouldn’t dive the med all year in a 5mm. You’d freeze in winter and spring. I mix the 5mm pants and 7mm top a bit. Forza tre is extremely robust. I’ve mostly shore dived this year and had no issues.
I usually prefer smootskin for jacket, and jersey with lycra for the pants.
Very useful, thank you. Always seems strange to me that with surface wind sports (I windsurf), it's getting increasingly difficult to find anything that is single-lined. Looks like a single lined 5mm would be my best bet for shorter shore-based stuff on the UK south coast.
Or go custom made. Snugg made me a single lined 6/5 for £360. Cheaper than many off the peg winter suits, and it fits me perfectly.
Polo sub- tailored wetsuit, no1.
Regards from south 🇫🇷
Never had issues diving in a normal surf wetsuit. Even in 50 degree water a 5/4 hooded winter suit is more than enough
I bought the Scubapro Everflex 5/4mm for Scuba. Is it also good for freediving?
Hey im from Sydney australia what thickness wetsuit would you recommend for more spring and summer fishing? Also 1 or 2 piece which is better?
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Very informative video, straight to the point. Would what website do you use to order your wetsuits from? And do you think a 5 mil for Irish waters would be to low? Or just be safe and go for the 7?.
I think he orders them from www.polosub.com/eng/ which is Polosub's main website. If you only spearfish in summer you can go for a 5 mil, but if you want to spearfish in any other season, i would 100% go for a 7 mil. I live in Denmark so the weather and water temperature is almost the same as Irelands and i dive with a 7 mil.
I'd freeze in Ireland in a 5mm. I've only ever use a 5mm in the UK for my first season and was never comfortable.
Nice! I've got a Beauchat similar to your polo sub. Did you use neoprene queen to fix yours? I ripped my a little on a dive two weeks ago in Dorset 😅
I just use regular neoprene glue. The Omer stuff seems to work well for me.
@@DanielMann nice one! I'll see if I can get a hold of some
cheers for the information. very helpful. what would you suggest for Western australia? cheers for the great vid.
Boat diving. 3 or 5mm forza tre. If you’re way up in the north a regular opencell suit would be better as it will cool you down in the boat instead.
@@DanielMann thanks for the response. cant wait for the new vid!!
are the froza tre suits the ones that tear easily? i heard and saw in the video that you can even put your finger through them!! that is crazy because knowing me if i can put my finger through them i will rip it HAHA. cheers
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Hi Daniel, I'm a recent subscriber and a noob to the sport. My son and I are binge watching your channel, it's a great resource thank you. Can I ask what mil suit you wore for the Norway dives on halibut?
Welcome aboard. First trip I did to Norway I had a 7mm suit. Second I had a 9.5mm jacket and 7mm pants.
@@DanielMann Thanks mate. Fortunately we'll be diving S. coast NSW and won't need suits quite that thick! Keep up the great work. There a few good UA-cam channels but yours is the best by a country mile.
Daniel, thank you. Can you make a quick video on how to look after carbon fins? My experience I have cressi carbon. changed foot pockets to smaller sise for warm water dive and they are so horrible after each dive side rails are coming off, which might lead to carbon to brake. I went to Thailand and just put them on super glue and now big dilemma what to do as I need to change foot pockets to bigger sise to dive with socks.
Might just be the brand of carbon fins. My DiveR's are worn down on the ends beyond recognition, they have always held up.
How long have you had your Polo Subs for? My Forza Tre is like 6 years old, still so soft and comfy. Only had one hole (got stabbed by someones gun) I need to get a 5mm Jacket for Sydney Winter.
I got my first Polosub in 2012 and have had a few since then in varying thicknesses and styles.
Awasome video. I have tried manny smooth skinn wetsuits, but when i try to take It off the tale just rips. So i tried frivannsliv EVO 2 nordic. And thats maby the most comfortable thing i have tried on. Easy to take on and off. Its just 7mm, but it ceeps me worm all year round her in Norway. But anyway fantastic video ass normal. Cant wait to the next one ;-)
There is a trick to taking them off safely. I might have to do a video on that once we can get back into the water.
That would be great😁
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Hi, I plan to spear fish in Asia, what thickness do you recommend for Polo Sub, & what type, open cell? Thanks so much for all your videos they help a lot !
Depends where in Asia, that covers so many countries and areas. Water temperature is more relevant than country in this instance.
Something I love about smoothskin is that they dry in a fraction of the time a lined wetsuit does. I'd much rather have the hassle of being gentle with the suit than having to spend hours drying a lined wetsuit.
Me too!
@Daniel Mann how long can you hold your breath for and how do you train to hold it that long?
Great video Dan!!! When are those shirts coming out??? Put me down for a XL please! Cheers!
Not sure, this covid-19 situation has put a halt on most things.
Daniel Mann that’s very understandable. Stay clean jelly bean!
Daniel Mann that’s very understandable. Stay clean jelly bean!
Daniel Mann that’s very understandable. Stay clean jelly bean!
Good info there but must say I rarely use a wetsuit , if I do it is just a 2mm top half to keep me that little bit warmer when diving in the chilly water temp of 25c of far North Queensland in winter
I’ve used a 5mm jacket and 3mm pants in 24°C. All depends on the type of diving and extraneous factors.
Yes I not as good as yourself I am only going down to about 6-7m mark
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Hi. I want to ask you... What is more durable daibo material or the Forza tre... Espacially on the issue of loosing thickness.
The Forze tre also stays wet for days, its heavy and doesnt have the best thermal retention. I do think that if you looking for a pure smooth skin suit it needs to be made form Heiwa SK. i use 3 and 5mm and have done so for several years. my 3mm easily lasts 3 years, never crushers, they just get old and hammered from the sun.
Hey Daniel, love your videos and especially the coldwater ones! I've been saying this for several years, but I WILL be trying spearfishing here in our bay in Alaska for halibut. Rod and reel on our boat for years. Two questions - do you prefer a pee hole for 7.5mm pants and wearing with 9.5mm jacket? And, how do you deal with peeing in your suit after a very cold dive (2-10C) with cold outside temp? Thanks, just wondering about all the different behind the scenes stuff coldwater freedivers experience that aren't shown in the videos. Another video on this possibly?
Hi Eric, hope you find some big halibut! With the pee tube none gets inside the wetsuit so it’s not a problem.
@@DanielMann You prefer and use this? Also, does PoloSub put these into their suits if requested? Didn't see it on their website.
And does the diaper on the jacket interfere with this?
Yes they do, if you add a suit to basket you can see the extras including the pee tube. You just pull the beaver tail to the side to pee. Mostly mine just sits to one side anyways.
I have a higher body temp and I’m aussie, so what would you recommend for not using a wetsuit at all, some skins and a rashy?
Is smooth skin wetsuits with opencell on the inside worth to get for a starter freediver as me? Im looking to buy a wet suit, fins and i need to know whats good and whats not and what i should get and not. I pretty much need everything!
Hey Daniel do you know much about Titanium Lined Neoprene wetsuits. Supposedly they don't need lubricant to put on and retain the heat? Not sure about the stretchy properties of the material either. Cheers
I've used them many years ago. I think Titanium is the colour rather than actual metal, could be wrong though. Yes they are easier to slip on without lube but they also add another later which makes them less flexible in my experience. You're going to get wet anyways so no problem for me to lube up!
Great vid you getting itchy feet yet ? Sea was calm today I so hope we’re not locked down till winter if we are fish stocks will boom 😁 👍👍🐟🐟👍👍🐟🐟🐟🐟
Hopefully we can get out in summer. Wouldn’t be the worst to miss all the rot in Sussex during spring.
Could you recommend some product links of smooth skin suite?
Plz tell me how long u hold your breath and how do u get to that point of holding your breath long
Well i use frivannsliv evo 2 Nordic 7mm
Is there any difference in-water, or is it basically wind-chill out-of-water where a smooth-skin excels?
Way more comfortable in the water especially when using 7mm and thicker. That’s what I use a 7mm smoothskin jacket in the UK for shore diving.
Spearing pike lakes in the northwest US...I freeze in my open cell 5mil, especially in the boat. What do you recommend for that 35-45 degree water?
That’s very cold. I’d be using 7mm pants and a 9.5mm jacket. I used that combo in Iceland diving around icebergs. Was good fun.
Daniel Mann Copy that sir, thanks for your response. Keep up the great content!