Supernatural | 5x14: “My Bloody Valentine” REACTION!!
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I always thought of it as Deans hunger, or the thing that he wanted most was to not feel anything. He craved the feeling of numbness so much that thats what he got when Famine rolled into town.
That makes so much sense! In the last episode (I think?) he said that he wished he couldn't feel anything. I'm adopting this headcanon.
@@jdeowra8028 season 4
Fun fact: Jensen Ackles played in a movie called "My bloody valentine" the same title of this episode :)
Yeah
It’s sad for Dean and Sam to realize that that their existence was to fulfill some prophecy. That maybe their parents might not even be drawn to each other without outside interference.
Cupid said their parents _couldn't stand each other_ before a cupid went & marked them both
So it's basically confirmed they would never have gotten together on their own. They're only together because their bloodlines needed to mix
Carver destroys the show again. Canon keeps changing. 1 week vamps do one thing the next week it's the exact opposite.
Pilot John hunted cause he loved Mary. John and Mary are only together due to Cupid. No mention of hate or love. Mary coming out of a theater bumps into him, they flirt, etc.
Carver couldn't make up his mind.
@@JohnWinchester3567 to be fair, it's hard to keep the lore straight with 15 seasons & 4 different show runners
Carver was on Supernatural from s3-11. Dabb was on SPN from s4-15. _But_ like half of the OG writers room was gone by s9 or 10 & _everyone_ (except Singer & the Bucker/Leming duo) was gone by the time Dabb took over.
The main writers for the Dabb-era are Buckleming, Berens, Dabb, Perez, Yockey, & Glynn. Except for Dabb & Buckleming, they all joined between s9-s12.
Of course the vibe of the show/characterization would change a bit, it's practically a whole new writers room, they're going to have different ideas. The only vetern writer by s12 _was_ Dabb (unless you count Buckleming, who were with SPN from s7)
I think the intensity of each brother’s situation varies depending on the seasons and the plots, but ultimately, neither one’s trauma diminishes the other’s. While all us fans have our favorite Winchester (and find it easier to sympathize with them), both Sam and Dean go through an immense amount of unfair suffering.
Thank you! I'm just not seeing how people are turning stuff like this into some sort of competition...
@@Ysalomet I think it’s just instinctual to hone in focus on your fave character-which we as fans can all be guilty of lol. Personally, I’m a Sam stan; I find his storylines to be the most interesting. But as much as I’m drawn to his character, the core of the show revolves two brothers facing off against the world together-and I love that.
Yes
facts.
@@prettyshon10 I agree! I am a Dean stan and yet I don't compare because both brothers have been through the worst. It's so sad, especially knowing how everything ends.
My baby Dean 🥺 I can't stand to see him suffer.
He was not affected because he is empty inside, dead and completely destroyed. As you continue to watch the episodes you will realize that he doesn't have a break, he goes through so much! It's a beautiful and heartbreaking journey at the same time
How terrifying this Horseman Famine must be that he can influence a celestial being like Castiel, who literally doesn’t need to eat. Though, not sure if the eating was a callback to Jimmy Novak’s hunger during Castiel’s absence.
Cas said it wasn't him, it was Jimmy's hunger. Jimmy's soul is still in there
Cas did say it was Jimmy being affected, not him.
@@audreyii6750 well then that just super sad. All this time I thought Jimmy was in Heaven and at peace.
SPOILER … ?
Is it possible that Castiel was lying? Isn’t he cut off from Heaven, or at least weaker because he’s dodging Zachariah and the like? So maybe Cas doesn’t want the boys to know he’s weaker. Whether it’s out of denial, vanity, concerns he’d be dropped because he’s no longer an asset or even just because he doesn’t want to add to the boys’ worries.
@@mizixy9624 Don't worry, Jimmy _does_ get into Heaven eventuslly, they confirm it in an offhand comment in s10 I think? (I dont want to say _when_ because spoilers tho)
I don't think a multi-dimensional celestial wavelength would hunger for anything human. Angels not only dont need to eat/sleep/drink, they technically don't have taste buds + they stay holed up in Heaven unless they have a mission.
Up until this episode Cas had never even had a burger (Jimmy eats some in 4x20 after Cas is dragged back to Heaven)
@@audreyii6750 JustUs Don’t Read
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See I thought that the cravings were from the body Castiel’s inhabiting. While he might normally be a celestial wavelength, he currently isn’t purely one and with him being cut off, he’d be more prone to Famine’s influence. At least, that was my guess. Anyhow, nice talking to you as usual and have a great day.
Famine was a nice plot twist in this episode. I love Cas in this episode
that ending with dean is another serious heartbreaker! 😢
Exactly!! Sam literally never had a choice when it came to demon blood and it doesn’t matter who had it worse they both are going through hell, i agree with everyone’s point!!
Exactly. I absolutely despise the brother vs brother comparisons…
He chose to drink RUbys blood he didnt have to. He was given demon blood as a baby but he didnt grow up drinking it he had to chose to.
Y’all keep putting the brothers up against each other when the entire thing is them refusing to go up against each other and standing together 😂
I appreciate you Nathan and Cameron for standing up for my Sammy 💜
Sam's addiction was not his fault.
Agreed
well he choose to trust a demon over his brother, i would argue that his addiction is his fault but what happens after is not
@@erickl1482 it really wasn't. He was tricked into it, thinking it was just going to give him the strength he needed to defeat Lilith. Ruby neglected to mention the addiction side effect. By the time he realised, it was too late. Ruby was basically grooming him to start the apocalypse and be Lucifer's vessel. In the end even Dean stopped blaming him for starting the apocalypse because no one had thought that killing Lilith would be a bad thing.
@@ihh619 but in the end it was still his Choice by the First Time he Drank from Ruby, a manipulation is no excuse to do such thing because of Power!
@@NaqisaFurukawa at the end of the day it was still manipulation tf are you talking about he did what he thought he needed to do and got manipulated if someone got mind controlled and killed someone would you say at the end of the day that person killed someone and it's their fault
when u said dean has the absolute worst, i remember u saying the exact same thing instead with sam when u were reacting to his first death. its crazy how they both fight their inner and outer demons but its what makes the show soo gooood
Dean has it the worse emotionally.
Sam has it the worse physically.
Wait no switch it I won’t spoil just in case they read this but Sam in season 5,6 and I’m pretty sure 7 what he has to suffer even more. So I believe he suffers more internally.
@@mingoddess2695 oh i believe it.
See, since you’re watching Euphoria, you guys can see where Davion is coming from now. Addiction is a disease that can’t be solved unless you choose to do so. It’s literally a choice at the end, whether or not to get clean and stop chasing the addiction. You’ve seen the lashing out and manipulation of Rue and all the people she’s hurting in her life. One of the hardest things someone can do is to stop helping an addict.
While Sam never chose to get take demon blood in the first place, every time he thought he was outsmarting the demons by using the abilities that came with it, thus furthering his addiction.
this dude sam was on the demon blood before he knew how to walk, man’s was cursed at birth i think that’s a lot worse than whatever deans goin through rn😂
Yep, Sam was drinking demon blood while learning to walk. All throughout his school years, blood blood blood. 🙄
But y'all act like Sam's addiction is his fault, and the blame lay upon him for the consumption of his vice. But Yellow Eyes is the one who brought this addiction to Sam. Although, it was actually preordained to happen according to the Angels. He never had a choice in his addiction, it was made up for him so as to start the apocalypse. It's like blaming someone is a born addict.
The addiction did not exist until Season 4 when Ruby convinced Sam to drink demon blood for the sole purpose of getting revenge on Lilith. So, in fact, there is some culpability on Sam's part. I'm not saying he isn't deserving of sympathy, but he's not exactly being scrutinized for sainthood.
@@yearofdiscontent4936 but how else was he going to defeat Lilith? He HAD to drink it. His addiction was fated, and necessary. It released Lucifer, and then they... well, that would be spoilers. It was all God's plan.
@@FLQueerLiberal1982 My problem isn't with his desire to defeat Lilith, it was his reason for it. Revenge is hardly altruistic and if he wasnt blinded by that maybe he wouldnt have found justifaction to drink demon blood, because i can never find a defense for drinking blood, demon or otherwise.
Everyone seems to put Sam on a pedestal...he's the more sensitive and understanding of the 2. I love Sam, but he is the far more selfish one. Dean may be crass and appear to be cavalier, but these are defense mechanisms. When Dean reflects on something that he and Sam both had to go through, he's more focused on how it affected Sam. If there was a choice between exacting revenge and keeping loved ones alive, he chose those he loves. I know Dean is not a Saint either, but when Sam suffers, you can see the pain that Dean feels for Sam.
@@yearofdiscontent4936 you just did a whole lot of victim blaming bro. Sam was manipulated into believing he was just killing lilith. "if he and sam had to go through, he's more focused on how it affected sam" yeah? is that why he locked sam in the panic room and left him there to die? and just causally said "atleast he dies human"
@@tangledjared9023 Dean just spent 40 years in hell being tortured, allowing Sam to die human was probably the only thing Dean could think of to save him from that. As far as victim blaming goes, Sam and Dean are both victims and they are also both partially responsible for getting to that point. I can sympathize with Sam's addiction, but if you go back to season 4 finale, Ruby told Sam she didn't have to do anything, she gave him the options and he made the "right" one every single time. When Sam was told - by a demon - that the only way to kill Lilith was to drink demon blood, then it was time to walk away. Revenge wasn't bringing Dean back, but going down the road of drinking demon blood would certainly make Dean's sacrifice to save Sam a waste. By the way, the torture Dean suffered was his fault for choosing Sam's life over his, but I still sympathize with him. Just because they suffer, it does not absolve them from their actions.
This show has some PHENOMENAL quotes, and "That's one deep, dark nothing you got there, Dean"
"You're not hungry, Dean, because inside, you're already dead"
Are some of the ones that have stayed with me. Just. . .oof!
Aw the coroner dying from the alcohol turns his prior scene from dark humor funny to just plain tragic.
I think the argument of who has it the worst between Dean and Sam depends on each person and who each person relates to more. I definitely relate more to Dean as an older sibling and as someone who has had to take care of everything and have the weight of the whole world on my shoulders. Because of all that, I agree with Dean having it "the worst". Does that mean Sam doesn't have it bad either? No. Sam is a sweetheart and life dealt him a bad hand. Plus he personally made bad choices of his own cognizance. But I've had wayyyyy too many people in my life making THEIR problem my problem whether it's intentional or not. So I see things more from Dean's POV. Nathan and Cam just relate to Sam more probably. And that's perfectly fine.
As someone who has had family members with tons of issues, I don't blame an addict for becoming an addict. The fault lies on who tricked them or coerced them. However, I do blame an addict for continually remaining an addict and refusing help to stop their addiction. I can stick around and provide support and help all I can, but if a person doesn't want to be helped, there's no future there. For Sam's part, I love that he grew and learned from his mistakes and is constantly trying to better himself. He knows his addiction was bad and is obviously fighting to be free from it. If that's not worth looking up to, I don't know what is.
I don't think that's necesary it. I'm a Sam!Girl he is my total favourite, but I never thought he had it worst than Dean. I may have got more angry at Dean in some cases, but it was mostly at some atttudes. But I never saw his sufffering as "less bad" than Sam's. just because I like Sam better. But it could be just me.
(even though after all my time in the fandom I've seen more Dean Stans dismissing Sam that I've seen Sam Stans dismissing Dean)
@@sofialu226 I suppose it's a matter of perspective then 🤷♀️. I've been in the fandom since 05 and i've seen both sides equally and childishly act up with each other. Though I relate more to Dean, I never seriously call myself a dean girl though because I actually do love both characters even though both have their strengths and definitely faults. I do find most fandom drama and fandom wars pointless though. But c'est la vie. 🤷♀️
*A new kink has appeared … vore*
Davion: _disgusted_
Nathan: _interested_
Cameron: _taste buds offended_
Cas is weakened enough (because he is outcast from Heaven) that Jimmy's love of burgers is affected by famine but _not_ weak enough for it to kill him. He could probably eat every burger in the city & still be perfectly fine
This episode killed me bc of what they did to dean. I remember crying while watching it the first time around. Also, I totally get what Davion’s saying, but somehow everyone else doesn’t fully listen so they don’t understand him in the end😭
It's so weird, but oddly humorous to see Cas eat like this, or just eat in general. Dude was really hungry.
Cupid was hilarious, what with his nude hugging spree: 3 in a row.
Famine is a huge fiend. Him and S4 Sam would get along real well, back when he wasn't thinking rationally.
Poor Sam, being forced to go through all this demon blood bs all over again.
Dean practically begging for help at the end was truly heartbreaking.
This is why I agree with Davion. Don't get me wrong, I obviously like Dean more as a character, but that doesn't mean I'm discrediting Sam in any way. I don't think they should be compared, but I believe when one brother goes through something immensely painful, the other brother goes through as much, if not, a little less pain than the inflicted brother, but never really more. It's usually like 55% - 45% when it comes to that point, with the majority being whoever's going through the pain.
But at the end of the day, it'll always be Team Winchester. In the endgame, these two brothers always look out for each other, no matter what pain either of them may or may not be going through. Because that's what true Winchesters do.
Nice reaction, guys! Can't wait for the next! 💯🔥
I remember a comment someone made about the emptiness inside Dean. They likened it to peace. With as much crap as Dean deals with he just wants to stop feeling so bad and guilty, all those negative feelings. He just wants peace.
Davion: **chugging his water**
Me: Oh dear, Famine got to Davion too 😔 boy is THIRSTY lol
Such a good episode. When Dean asks for help at the end it broke me. This is ultimately, a story about two brothers, but for me, it’s always been just a little more Deans story. His sacrifices for Sam, his protecting Sam and keeping him safe. I love Dean, the weight he’s had to carry because of his mothers choices, his dad’s behaviors and his responsibilities since he was 4, he never caught a break.
This is one of my fav episodes! I’ve been looking forward to this sooo much. Have a good rest of ur day. Thanks
This episode was one of the best ever. The comedic moments, the story, the pacing....everything was amazing
The actor who played Famine, James Otis, passed away on March 03, 2020.
Just a heads up.
Michael didn't kill Uriel, he sent him back to Heaven. It would change the timeline to kill him.
Anna (like Cas) was a rebellious angel acting against heaven's plans (and from the future) so it wouldn't affect the timeline to kill her.
Sam is proof that Crack really does just give you super powers
Nathan is dead on "when do any of these people get to have that." Thank you, Davion, for finally saying it "I hate to see them go through shit, they both have it the worst" Yes, they do....and you guys are only in season 5.
With them saying which trauma is worst, their Euphoria reaction will be interesting
Dude…. You have no idea
I’m a JustUs fan, it’s not the same when someone is missing on occasion, I always enjoy your reactions when it’s all of you! You’re all so fun to listen to and watch!
Nathan being so innocent that he didn’t get the cold shower reference Davion was putting down.
Im pretty sure he got it lol
Davion is so hard headed. He never changing his mind(argument at the end) Lmaoo
Yup
They both have it the worst bc sam has been suffering from the demon inside him and his addiction to blood. Dean is also suffering because he has to watch his younger brother turn into something he does want become. So, it's not Dean has it worst than they other because they're both suffering from different things. END OF DISCUSSION!!! LOVE U GUYS BY THE WAY😍
im a divek fan. i only watch justus for him 💯💯
I been waiting for this
Guys you give me goosebumps when you when silence all of you after Famine said to Dean he qas dead inside!!! Very good reactions!!!👍👍👍
“Take him to Bobby’s house” -Davion & me too, lol. Some of your reactions are word-for-word mine. Y’all make these episodes new for me again, thank you for this channel. 🙂
Well, to be fair, Sam has been fighting his addiction good until this episode, where Famine affected even freaking Castiel enough to render him useless during the battle. Plus, to add some points to Sam, he had the bit of clarity through the haze of hunger to exorcise the demons and not cut them.
I can't wait for them to react to episode 22...reaction finna go crazy!
Of course, the notification pops up and there goes my plans …
Patiently waiting to see if Davion ever changes his tune to "Cas has it the worst" XDD
Wait till next season
@@struggleskywalker1025 I'm thinking Davion will be conflicted as to _who_ has it the worst during the Carver era, but I _really doubt_ he'll still think Dean has it the worst during the Dabb era
@@audreyii6750 oh, 100% agree
One of my favorite episodes!
hey, really loving these reactions guys 10/10 commentary lol, cant wait to see ur reactions to the later seasons!
No offense but I laughed out loud about brothers' reaction for the first couple' scene. Basically, it goes from "👍" to "😨" in a few seconds.
"Wait your turn" is one of my favorite quotes ever.
Enter the 2nd Horseman. Just wait... Pestilence and Death - amazing characters, and performances to come. Especially Death.
I understand and sympathize with both sides of the argument at the end of the episode. I genuinely do feel for both Dean and Sam. However, to expand on Davion's point, Dean thinking about helping/protecting his brother all the time, that's not just because of the demon blood addiction, which needs to be considered as Sam's completely valid struggle. The thing is, caring for Sam goes way, way, way back. Dean raised him. Basically, Sam is both Dean's brother and kid. And it's been like that since Dean was four years old. Four.
Now, it's not only that, but also his forty years in Hell and one horrible, impossible situation after the other, nonstop. Even if we can argue that they both go through these situations together, Dean still feels like it's his responsibility to make everything right while believing he does not "deserve to be saved." Cas picked up on this since they met, and thankfully he gets Dean to talk about it more freely. Dean has one ugly tangle of self-worth issues, and now Heaven itself keeps knocking on his door, revealing that his perfectly in love parents, a childlike solace that's kept him afloat (Mary's regarded as everything that's good and pure and is the equivalent of the word 'home', John is... well, it's unrealistic for us to think that Dean would/could separate the love/hate he has for the man), was fabricated as a part of some godly plan that will end in him and his brother killing each other. At the end of the day, Dean and Sam both are the heroes of the story, but Dean is also the parent. Parents put their kids first, of course he doesn't think of himself. He literally never does.
Plus, I think it's worth remembering that, historically, Dean was always the one who stayed. He didn't go find his own way like Sam did by running away to Stanford and trying to get out of "the life" (which, again, I fully support). Dean didn't have the choice because, in his mind, there simply wasn't a choice to make. This man's put family first since memory serves him.
Sorry, this is just me spilling my Dean feels, but I don't think it's fair for either brother to be cornered for what they're going through or not on this episode alone. No, Dean is not the one suffering from withdrawal and dealing with that specific addiction, but that man's suffering regardless, and he's been having a rough time for a long time.
PS Famine and the episode climax focusing on Dean speaks volumes.
PPS Sorry this got so long. Please don't think I'm taking credit from Sam, I'm not. There are several things that could be added to Sam's case, but see, this is a UA-cam comment and I'm just helping out a fellow Dean stan.
I understand that Sam was fed demon blood by yellow eyes when he was a baby... That was not his choice or his fault. But if you think back he lived years apon years without it.. He did make the choice to start drinking demon blood with Ruby when Dean went to hell to get stronger to fight the demons and to be able to defeat Lilith... So it was his choice to become an addict...
You still going through the Sam vs Dean argument? You guys have 10 more seasons of this, lmao
Comparing Sam's addiction to demon blood to crack is totally inadequate. Nathan and Cameron thank you, for your point of view
im with davion, why cant he acknowledge dean’s trauma without sam constantly being brought up. they’re different individuals.
When you do comparisons of trauma is when you lose people. I get what he was going for but saying one brother has it worse kinda downplays trauma
@@latraeosborne3287 well maybe thats how he feels, i just notice he brings up dean and his issues and everyone jumps on him for not acknowledging sam’s trauma.
@@kaylax1171 I think they jump him mostly for comparing the two.
@@kaylax1171 Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one that notices that Davion constantly gets attacked for showing even the slightest bit of sympathy for Dean and his trauma and everyone else turning it into a comparison with Sam.
@@latraeosborne3287 He wasn't comparing the two. It's not like he said that Dean has it worse than Sam or that Sam hasn't been through anything near what Dean has been through. And we all know that Dean is Davion's fave and him seeing like that at the end has him feeling bad for him. He has that right to feel that way. Hell, whether you like Dean or not, seeing him so helpless, how could you not feel bad for him? But it wasn't a comparison, everyone else made it into that. However, if Davion would've said Sam has it the worst, everybody would've been cool with it.
Nathan is not had to see family members destroyed by addiction. I know those with addition do have it bad but watching your family member destroy themselves, destroy you, destroy other family members even while you suffer right with them is a pretty devastating.
Another one..... i was looking forward to watching yall reaction
Davion! So well said! We got your back with this one. Some folks forgetting when Sam was choosing demon blood in S4… In this instance tho, yes. Its not Sams fault. But Dean still has to pick up the pieces for Sam, again. And that is what makes it so hard for Dean! The fact that Dean wasnt affected by Famine because he wants for nothing? Heartbreaking.
He chose to drink demon blood in season 4. Yes, Ruby manipulated him, but he still chose to take that path. If he hadn’t done anything after Azazel, (Yellow Eyes) he wouldn’t be having this problem at all right now, because he never would have known what the feeling of being “high” felt like.
True, Sam was not addicted to demon blood from s1-3
It's more like someone with alcoholic parents. You will be more likely to become addicted to alcohol if you have alcoholic parents/grandparents, but unless you pick up a bottle, you aren't "naturally" an alcoholic
Yes, Sam got a few drops of demon blood in him at 6mo old. But he _chose_ to drink it later. And KEEP drinking it.
Then he _noticed_ he got withdraws without it & still _refused_ to detox!
At a certain point, it was his own actions that brought him here
@@audreyii6750 Plus, he didn’t even know that he had demon blood in him till the end of season 2. Yeah he always said as a kid he felt unclean, but he wasn’t feeling the affects of the demon blood after season 2 because yellow eyes died. Ruby said it was dormant, but he wouldn’t have known that if she hadn’t told him. I’m I downplaying Sam’s pain? No. But no one forced him to starting drinking blood and became a blood junky. He did it to himself.
He'd basically given up after dean died, so without ruby and the demon blood he'd be dead before and after dean came back. Samhain and Alistair would've killed them both.
Some Cupids arrows for Nathan 🏹
Nathan has unlock the Gargoyle position
Ha, I always thought of it as the L position.
Side note, always interested in what's on the menu for this reaction!
The Horsemen are not demons.
Yes I made it!!!! WrestleMania is over now I can watch you guys now yay!!!
Using Davion's crack addict example, they both have it bad.
You have the one brother having to deal with the consequences of the addict and be in emotional turmoil but all you see is the one brother who's on drugs as the only bad thing, no. You don't know if the one on drugs wants to stop and the problems they go through trying, but then maybe they get pulled back in and now what happens when they get sober, they have to deal with the consequences of what they did while under the influence and also how their loved ones now see them. They both have it bad but this example doesn't really work with Sam and Dean because there are stages where they both go through periods of something really bad happening to them. It's like they take turns having a horrible life but with Sam, this is all forced upon him. Obviously being Michael's vessel is forced on Dean too but Sam is the one finding out his whole life he's been influenced by evil forces trying to turn him to the dark side and that he has to be the devils vessel and constantly have shit on his ass because of it. But Dean is, as we saw, literally dead inside so you can't say one trumps the other.
I'm just... really proud of Sam in this episode? Like yes he had a relapse due to many circumstances outside of his control, but he did his best to fight this thing tooth and nail, INCLUDING asking for help which is something s4 Sam would never have done.
I feel the same way!!
Poor Dean 😭 My heart hurts for him. Davion speaking the truth. To me and other people we think that Dean DOES have it the worst. Look at it however you want. It won't change any of our minds.
I agree that Sam and alot of other characters have trauma as well but Dean again and again has to go through so much and sacrifices everything for others and never does anything for himself. I could go on but I think the show speaks for itself.
#TeamFreeWill that's the only team you need to be on at the end of the day. I get you tho Davion, everytime you've said Dean has it the worst it really does come down to Dean never getting a damn break. It just seems like Dean is always helpless and just up the creek without a paddle. Just one bad thing he has to deal with after another. Then, you also have to factor in Dean is the oldest brother so he always just feels like he must carry the majority of the weight of the world on his shoulders.
This Cupid is adorable & the only angel other than Anna who doesn't hate Cas/try to kill him in sight so
I've said time and time again, stop comparing Sam and Dean's trauma because they've experienced different things. However, there's nothing wrong with saying this one has it the worst or that one has it the worst as long as you're not comparing them. How I see it: physically, Sam has suffered more. Emotionally, Dean has suffered more. Mentally, they both have suffered equally. And yes, Sam is suffering because he's an addict and going through withdrawals and having relapses. But it's hitting Dean harder because: 1. that's not only his baby brother battling addiction, but that's also his child; and 2. there's nothing he can do about it other than locking him away and listening to him suffer through it. Therefore, it's possible for the person on the outside looking in to feel something more than the person that's actually going through something. Which I think Davion was trying to say.
Anyway, onto the episode. It's refreshing to see Dean immune to something, or in this case, someone. Usually, Sam is the one immune to any and everything, so to see Sam not be immune to Famine, but Dean being the one immune was interesting. Speaking of Famine, he was spitting facts. Humans do want more because they're never satisfied. And him telling Dean, after touching his soul, how broken and defeated he is and then adding, "Inside you're already dead," chilling. Although Sam had to come down from his demon blood high at the end, him using his powers finally resulted in something good coming out of it. But Dean begging for help? Heartbreaking. It also reminded me of when he did the same thing in the episode "Home" (1x09) when he called John because they were going back to their old home and Sam's visions were getting more intense.
About the first part I agree. But not with Dean having it harder.
I understand what you say, but is Sam who is lock in there having who knows what kind of hallucinations that break his mind after being, basically froced to drink the demon blood again, and after thinking he was over it knowing all it did to him. I still see it as, to say it somehow, "Equally Diferent" if you know what I mean. idk.
@@sofialu226 Spoiler Alert!!!!
I'm not saying Sam isn't having a hard time dealing with his addiction and everything else that comes along with it. I just think the burden is more on Dean, which in turn makes it harder for him. Assuming you've seen all 15 seasons of show, think back to seasons 9 and 10 when Dean was dealing with the Mark of Cain. Wouldn't you agree that although Dean was physically suffering more, that Sam was emotionally suffering more because he had to carry the burden of watching his brother turn into something that he didn't want him to turn into? And therefore, it made it harder on Sam because he was put in a helpless situation where he didn't know how to help his brother, but at the same time, having to make sure his brother doesn't go rogue? It's the same here with Sam and his demon blood addiction and Dean having to deal with it.
@@TBFC1985
SPOILER:
No, Dean had it hard too because he was suffering from all that. Dean is the one dealing with that disire of killing uncapable of controlling himself at will. Specially being Dean, he was definitly suffering when he realized what he has done. The mark was taking over and Dean tried ti fight it. In the three episodes he was Demon!Dean it was different because Dean was compleatly lost and he wasn't suffering for it anymore. But when he is cure he is back to deal with the mark until Sam takes it out (after that, suffering for the memories of what he did during that time)
"Equally Different"
Some of the cases I think the family suffers more is when, like Davions example the crackhead is not willing to work his adiction while their family tries all they can (not Sam case because he worked on it and got better, what happened here wasn't Sam's fault). Or when a grandmother or granfather has alzeheimer. Because the person with it can't feel sad of something they can't remember, while the family has to see that getting worst and see their family memember forget them.
In both Sam and Dean case they were loosing it without being able to control it, but they were still very concious of the process and what was going on, so they were suffering too.
like when someone is posses, if they are concious they would see themselves doing terrible things without being able to control themselves, but they are concious. And it may not be their fault, but is still in their mind. with Sam' and Dean case added the part that both started it to themselve, Sam first decided to drink the blood (not knowing what it would do to him beside the power). And then Dean accepted the Mark (without knowing what it would do beside the power). So it aded an extra layer of guilt being Sam and Dean the way they are.
@@sofialu226 I think you're misunderstanding me here, or maybe I'm just wording it wrong. You see it as equal, but different, and that's fine. But how I see it, it's more 60/40, or maybe even 55/45, than 50/50. Now, I'm not saying if Sam or Dean go through something that they don't feel that burden once they come out of it. What I'm saying is the burden would be slightly greater on the one on the outside looking in because he is dealing with his own emotions plus the emotions of the other one. Whereas, the one that went through something, would only be dealing with his own emotions. If that makes sense.
@@TBFC1985 I think both of us are misunderstanding each other xD
I desagree because I see it as equal, and you desagree because you see it a 60/40 - 55/45.
So I think we are never going to agree because how we see it, but at least you see both sometimes having it worst than the other instead of one of the two always having it worst.
So I guess we can end the interchange here? Idk, I have nothing else to replay ╮(Ó Ò)╭
Now you guys know the truth!! John lost it when Mary died because he was essentially love-potioned
John & Mary were turned into soulmates/ _forced_ to fall in love by Heaven itself. It doesn't go away just because one of them dies
_Of course_ John was going to put vengeance over taking care of his kids. His cupid mark would have made him near mad with grief at losing his "soulmate"
Dean hasn't had time for himself since he was 4 years old, until Jess died Sam was living for himself, with Dean's help
haha, "demons don't have dentists" you guys are funny.
D..did Devek fall asleep? lol
Me watching them and all of a sudden the dude asks “why was he gonna eat, he’s an angel”
All will be explained😂
All will be explained and it will be funny, scary, and badass all at the same time
Nobody holds a monopoly on human pain and suffering except for our boys, because Sam and Dean were created and destined to be born to literally have it the worst of all humans by God or whoever is running heaven.
Nathan, sorry Sam had a chance for himself from high school graduation up until he was trying to get into graduate school to become a lawyer. So, he got around four years on his own?
Plus, Dean was the shield to protect Sam from some of the darker aspects of their life. Remember the episode with the Shtriga and the flashbacks? Dean spent the time to make Sam mac and cheese, but because Sam’s a little kid he changed his mind and didn’t want it any more. What did baby Sam want? The last of the cereal that Dean was saving for himself since he didn’t get to eat any of it. Yet, Dean let Sam have it and went hungry that night (I think). Dean was a dumbass because he threw away the mac and cheese, but he was a kid too and most likely acting out of frustration and not thinking it through.
Yes to all of this!
Sam didn't even learn about monsters until he was like 8!
He had wants & he chased after them, including leaving for college.
Dean never got anything to himself, when he wasn't being his brother's keeper he was helping his dad on dangerous hunts )=
Did you know that Jared married the woman who played Ruby in season 4. Jensen married a woman that will appear in future episodes
That's the 2nd time Dean legitimately prays!
The first time was to Cas (4x20) and now he's praying to God, so much has been put on his shoulders
all of you look and sound stoned af and im here for it
That last scene 😥💔
Misha must’ve been so sick after filming this episode. Physically and he probably didn’t want to eat another burger for a long while.
Sam siffering addiction dean dead inside meaning no freling no pain 😊
Love your video but y'all has to start popping out more Supernatural like you do Teen Wolf have a nice day or night
tbf we've been posting 2 every week for the last like 2 months
@@JustUs Even at that speed gonna take years
@@JustUs okay okay that's fair
Davion talking about “I got a lisp”😂
I said on Patreon that comparing burdens is not a healthy discussion, but being dead inside is not a burden anyone wants to carry. Antidepressants? Maybe they can help a little to get you out of bed, but the rest depends on psychological help. It is an existential problem, one that has no apparent solution. For me, I don't live for myself anymore, if I do everyday things I do it for my family, but the Void in me doesn't let me be productive enough. Yes, sometimes I feel so empty that makes me desperate, and the only thing that helps it's to go to sleep.
No psychologist has ever helped me with my problems.
Don't worry Davion there's a lot of people who agree with you. Dean gang fr
Dean has always been a real one
The water drinking is too loud 🤣
Davion can sympathise with Dean, without also having to sympathise with Sam. I get it both have been through some shit, but that doesn't mean we can't relate or empathise with one more than the other. And Nathan, you keep saying to not compare trauma but you all are the ones that are comparing the trauma of them both, while at first davion was just trying to understand dean and what he's been through. He was not putting sam down.
Davison was comparing trauma by using the language of Dean has it the worse. This implies a comparison is coming from somewhere and the only person who suffers like that is Sam. Not to mention this is thing that goes back to the beginning of their reactions to the show. Saying Dean goes through the wringer isn't comparing and is just stating a fact.
Sam literally chose to be addicted to demon blood, he literally chose it. He did not have to but Ruby told him he would be powerful if he drank and so he did. Without it his powers would go away she got him addicted but he had to say yes for her to do it, she didnt force him to drink.
If he didn't have his powers sam and dean die multiple times in season 4
Before I say anything, I want to say I am saying all of this out of complete respect and I’m not trying to be ugly about this.. I am an addict.. I have struggled with this disease for over 25 years.. addiction is a disease that effects your brain.. if you were to see an X-ray of my brain vs an X-ray of a completely healthy brain, you would see where this disease is eating away at the part of my brain that helps with will power, if you will.. having this disease of addiction doesn’t mean I’m just someone with character flaws who just chooses my DOC (drug of choice) over my family and friends and health/well being.. I went to rehab in 2020 and I have been clean for almost 2 years.. it is a daily struggle, but with the help of proper medication and help from my doctors and therapist, I’m able to fight this disease better than before I got help.. having this disease is literally like having a demon in your mind who takes over your body and choices and there’s nothing you can do to stop taking your DOC, but you’re literally on the inside screaming for help and hating yourself every time you go back to your DOC.. it took me getting into an accident where I flipped my car over twice and landed in a ditch, nearly ending my life, to finally get the help I needed.. I put my family through literal hell all these years.. they had to clean up my messes time and time again for over 25 years.. I would give anything to take it all back.. so they could live their life without having to worry about me.. now that I’m clean and drug free, I don’t hear from my sisters anymore.. one of my sisters literally has blocked my number.. I mourn for them daily.. but I understand why they want nothing to do with me.. so I don’t think it’s fair to compare the struggles of someone with this disease to someone dealing with someone with this disease.. they both have it really really bad.. I wouldn’t wish either situation on my worst enemy.. I wish you all wouldn’t comment on addicts in general by calling us “crackheads” and such.. it really hurts to hear that and just adds to the stigma around addicts.. that we are just a bunch of fiends who have a choice, but just always choose the wrong choice with no thought to those around us.. because I promise you, we think about our loved ones daily, and wish we could stop hurting them.. again, I say all this respectfully.. thank you for taking the time to read this.. I love watching you all have a good time watching my favorite show.. but I just had to comment on this one thing.. thanks again.. 🥺❤️🙏🏻
Nah because they both didn’t ask for this. Obviously I love dean but if we all gonna be Supernatural fans, you gotta understand that it’s not a competition on who’s trauma is worst. Love your main character with all you’re heart of course but don’t be that type of fan. I respect your opinion but it’s not a competition 💯.
The opening of the episode was all nasty.
I hate this episode but I also love it💀
sam locked in the panic room screaming his lungs out,, "poor dean" 💀
I love how you will see the friendship cass and dean will build🥰
Nat, Sam chose to drink demon blood in the first place, he chose it because he wanted more power, yes, manipulated by Rubi, but it was he who decided it. then this turned into an addiction that, LET'S BE REAL, he's coping with pretty well.
Now let's weigh the burden of each.
Come on, grab a pen and paper and start listing each other's burdens, including the guilt Dean bears for the deaths of those he loved.
The scales are going to fall on Dean.
I am here
19:09 Y'all stop talking during the important parts lmaooo