The Palatine minfig featured in Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga was my favorite. Honestly I loved all the minifig designs from that game, they weren't too detailed but looked decent and cool
What’s more confusing is Ryan’s take. In the diorama review he said verbatim “…this is one of the better Emperor Palpatine minfigures ever. The face prints makes this figure!” But now it seems like he’s flip flopping by preferring the older one.
I'm loving the current Lego Star Wars diorama era. They've been putting out some gorgeous looking sets, and the dioramas are perfect compliments to a UCS collection.
While both sets are about the same location, they serve vastly different purposes. The Duel on the Death Star is much more expansive and has more play functions but the Emperor’s throne room has better details and is better for a display. While I do love the design of the New set but I wish it was a bit larger like the Duel On Death Star, and came with the two royal guards. Though more stuff means a higher price and big lego sets Nowadays already cost more than a Kidney and Liver, I couldn't imagine the price of the set if it was upgraded.
I normally only watch your non-review/comparison videos (as I typically just buy the sets I think look cool without looking at a review) - this was the first review/comparison video I've watched in a long time and I have to say - you've come A LONG way. This was really well done from an editing standpoint, most impressive.
By the way, I love your channel just wanted to point that out. Also, I’ve actually been wanting you to do this like this video. I have actually been thinking this would be cool if you did good I can’t believe you actually did it. Oh end it is an amazing video. Obviously what would you expect? You are of course just amazing at making these videos.
In my opinion this is really just weather you want a display set or a play set for kids so it’s weird comparison but you did a good job comparing the two great video 👍
This is one of your most interest comparisons. These are two great sets that are both amazing in their own way and it's really hard to say which is better.
There’s no point to roping in the 2015 model and the 2002 set… well same thing lol. I’ll make a “short/reel” for the 2002 set comparison though. This vid was specifically these because of how recently the 2020 set was released and then having the same retail price. 👍👍
It's a fun story, but back when the original version of the playset came out I was like 12 years old and I really, really wanted it, but never asked my mom for it because of the price. Now I'm 19 and today I came across the diorama set and bought it in a heartbeat
Am I the only one that doesn’t like the new Luke Skywalker hair piece? I like the original hair piece… I love that LEGO changed the lightsabers to that foggy texture, instead of the translucent that we used to have!
They should maybe sort of combine elements of each set sometime in the future, I like the throne & window better on the new version but I like the imperial guards underneath in the 2020 version
I really BADLY wish they released Jabba's Throne Room instead of this diorama. I got the 2020 version and just can't force myself to get excited about this one. If I didn't fully believe in the potential of the diorama collection, I'd easily give this a pass but the collector in me will probably pick it up at some point anyway...
The sizes really aren’t as far off as you might initially think. The throne and window is so much better as a display in the new set, but the old is still a nice playset.
I have a strange bit of luck when it comes to these two sets and finding them for cheap. Back in 2022, I found the 2020 set brand new for $60 at a game exchange and I bought it there. This year I found the 2023 set at walmart on clearance for $40. I basically paid half the price it would to get both sets on release day just by being patient. I love both of them so much and I’m proud to have them in my collection.
I already expanded the width of the 75291 set by 4 studs and made the window larger and deeper. I had planned on trying to make a new window based on a moc, but the peices were not cheap or easy to find. The new set has a perfect window, and i will be trying to combine the new set into the centre platform of the old set and expanding the sides. So for me, a combined set is the only answer. Very happy with the new one! =o)
I agree with every point you presented. I already own the play set but I’m going to pick up the diorama because it looks so freaking cool! I’m really digging these dioramas but am definitely disappointed by how the Endor diorama looks. One question, I know that you don’t rely on the price per piece for the value of a set but is there value to the price per mini figure count that you look at, let’s say 5.00 per mini figure? 2022 has that 35.00 4+ set that I refuse to buy because that build and price is ridiculous and I can’t see paying 10+ dollars just for mini figs. Anyway, love your videos and your honesty in your opinions about LEGO Star Wars sets.
Thank you for the detailed review! 🙂 Two different sets with two different audiences...So for me personally, I would go for the 2020 set due to the minifigures, size. In the end there is no right or wrong, it's just a matter of personal taste.
I’ve noticed that diorama sets and big, 1 to 1 scale MOCs can sometimes look quite barren and plain simply because they’re so accurate. I just prefer prefer a playset that encapsulates and highlights every interesting part of a scene, like how the 2020 version does. Damn, I wish I bought it.
I like the 2023 version better. The old one way all over the place, and the new one is so much cleaner. I might consider picking it up if I ever see it on shelves for a good price.
the comparisons make sense, and for that reason I totally get the value of the playset, but for my interests, I dont play, I display, and that large window the emperor sits in front of is just so much more impactful for me in the capturing of that scene in the diorama.
Like the comparison although I really liked old chart method more than new one. Old one I can see more than new ine something about the colors. Keep up the great work.
I have the two throne room play sets, but I'll also give it to the diorama as the best one for display. In fact, I intend to buy it precisely so it can replace the previous throne room set I have next to the UCS Super-Star Destroyer.
There are two scenes in EP.6 where the Royal Guards are seen: 1) When the Emperor disembarks his shuttle on board the second Death Star, he is accompanied by several of them, and 2) when Vader introduces Luke to the Emperor within his throne room there are at least two guarding the inside of the door, and the Emperor says "Guards, leave us." to allow for more privacy, and it shows them leaving. And they were first seen chronologically in Ep.2
That window on the new Diorama set is just awesome!! I am very much into displaying my Lego sets so for me it's a clear choice in favor of the Diorama.
I like the newer Sidious minifigure. While the older one is more accurate in having pupils, I think the "pupiless Palpatine" makes him look less human if you know what I mean.
Great to see you doing more diverse content! - I'm with you Ryan - I buy them all - but If I had to choose it would be Diorama for the exact same reason as you - Display ability is just better. I'd be interested to see someone expand the diorama into a larger emperor throne room scene with even more detail. I think you have accurately described why LEGO has produced both play sets and display sets... again - great review - Nice editing and fun to watch content.
I love the display set I kinda wish I bought it I like having my sets on display like Ryan having display sets it’s so good for just looking good on your table
when you put them together like that at 5:04, I feel like you could actually remove the throne from the play set, then use the play set as an extension of the throne room diorama. They sorta look like they belong together
Are you talking about just the thrones, or are you talking about the throne areas? Cause if it’s the throne areas, you’re never going to be able to use the play set as an extension of the diorama. The section the diorama represents is just too big to go along side everything else the play set represents. If it’s just the thrones, then yeah that’s an easy switch.
ROTJ was the Star Wars I watched the most as a kid, so any related sets have an immediate attraction, but I've already got the playset so don't feel I can justify the diorama at full retail price. If there's an opportunity to pick it up at a discount at some point during its run though, I'll absolutely be picking it up.
I agree on the palpatine design, finished the newer set today. like they really didn’t have to remove the pupils it’s not even movie accurate. still looks cool, but it doesn’t feel the exact same.
I am an adult but I still prefer playsets, easily. I am an adult fan of Lego, and what is a Lego? A toy. Selling a display piece to a fan of toys will never make sense to me. I am a fan of Lego specifically because I like to see play features, moving parts, and "Lego-fications" of scenes. The dioramas have none of that, so I don't understand the appeal, personally. The release of this diorama has prompted me to buy the 2020 set from Bricklink.
It's a great set! I totally agree with what you said. These "display" sets just don't do it for me. The playsets are what LEGO is supposed to be. That's the nostalgia for me. That's why I was drawn to sets like Mod Eisley Cantina. Display sets I have are Darth Vader Meditation Chamber and the Dagobah Training diorama. The latter ones I will probably just sell. They are still NISB. I don't even know why I bought them, honestly. I guess I got sucked into them being so cheap when I made the purchase.
@@EchoBaseplates Honestly, I got Yoda's hut a few years ago, and that was the perfect substitute for the Dagobah display set. I have the Cantina too but I haven't built it yet. Don't have room rn
While the new set has a nice design, it is definitely overpriced. 100 dollars for the other older playset seems much more reasonable because at least you get more minifigs and play valve. The new set is just a small little bit of the final duel area and make it feel incomplete. Lego is going crazy with the pricing of sets Nowadays, paying more than 70 dollars for that set seems too far
I think that they did the pupils of palpatine away to be more like the other minifigures that have special eye color, like ahsoka, luminara etc, they also dont have pupil
If you could only have one of these sets, which are you taking?
2023!
New One
2023, the displayability is much better than the 2020 version
both because I like sets that have some playability but I like both
2023
I love the idea of this comparison. Its the same scene and at the same price but it is just for 2 different audiences
inflation probably. Not inflation in general but lego’s version which means increasing the price to a stupid amount just because they can
there are so many sets that I wanted but never got them
If I knew this was coming out I never would have bought the 2020 version
@@johnnybaxter1953 honestly i like the old one better, it looks more complete.
Imagine what Vader was thinking when Luke got the high ground.
"Uhh, not this again" probably
“Ah sh** here we go again.”
@@CathoolEditz Yup
@@ForestElfLego lol
Maybe he was proud of his son for succeeding him by having the higher ground and having followed the path of old Ben Kenobi
The new Palpatine minifigure is kind of confusing, definitely prefer the older one. But the diorama set overall is very nice looking.
The Palatine minfig featured in Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga was my favorite. Honestly I loved all the minifig designs from that game, they weren't too detailed but looked decent and cool
What’s more confusing is Ryan’s take. In the diorama review he said verbatim
“…this is one of the better Emperor Palpatine minfigures ever. The face prints makes this figure!”
But now it seems like he’s flip flopping by preferring the older one.
@@GotchaProductions I think he meant the older one was better
The eyes reflect the fact that Palpatine has no soul
it looks more like "palpatine" from episode 9, I recall that one not having pupils; maybe lego got them confused?
Think it would be interesting to see if anyone tried to combine the two
I'm loving the current Lego Star Wars diorama era. They've been putting out some gorgeous looking sets, and the dioramas are perfect compliments to a UCS collection.
I agree, I hope we get some prequel era dioramas soon
I agree. I wish the prices were lower but that could be said about most lego
Agreed although they are priced $10 to $20 too much
id love to see a attack of the clones one of the huge fight at the end
I would love to see someone modify the new one so it shows the full scene like the 2020 model(obviously much bigger)
The window and throne design on the 2023 throne room is the best out of the two
The back of the window looks like a bit of a mess but it's a neat build when viewed with the Emperor's throne.
@@arcturionblade1077 I agree and it’s super movie accurate
The new one is a much better display, but I still prefer the playset.
While both sets are about the same location, they serve vastly different purposes. The Duel on the Death Star is much more expansive and has more play functions but the Emperor’s throne room has better details and is better for a display. While I do love the design of the New set but I wish it was a bit larger like the Duel On Death Star, and came with the two royal guards. Though more stuff means a higher price and big lego sets Nowadays already cost more than a Kidney and Liver, I couldn't imagine the price of the set if it was upgraded.
I’m so glad you included the plinth in the design category, that was on the top of my mind for that
Plinths are vital to LEGO Star Wars sets
The playset actually looks pretty good. I'd love to combine them into one epic throne room moc!
The new throne room could’ve benefited from the 2 royal guards and maybe would’ve made it worth the price, and maybe the shaft Palps gets thrown down
you are the first person to ever say that
I actually prefer no guards, I didn’t like how it obstructed the view of the 2020 set and glad they did not do the same for the 2023 set
@FatMan the current price is already $100…
The guards dont belong, and the shaft is at the bottom of the staircase that leads up to this section the diorama depicts.
@@hbtdawgz1688some people don’t care for accuracy at all lol
i’m glad that they improved the swoosh ability on the newer one
The reason Palpatine has no pupils is for when he shoots lightning as when he does his puplils disappear.
Very true nice catch
When does that happen? Got the scene in front of me right now and paused. His pupils are still clearly visible.
@@soton__1792 if you slow it down when it sparks they disappear for a split second.
@@Jordan61112 are you blind?
I wish they did a rots Dooku vs. Obi Wan and Anakin diorama
Me to
20 anniversary set?
I normally only watch your non-review/comparison videos (as I typically just buy the sets I think look cool without looking at a review) - this was the first review/comparison video I've watched in a long time and I have to say - you've come A LONG way. This was really well done from an editing standpoint, most impressive.
By the way, I love your channel just wanted to point that out. Also, I’ve actually been wanting you to do this like this video. I have actually been thinking this would be cool if you did good I can’t believe you actually did it. Oh end it is an amazing video. Obviously what would you expect? You are of course just amazing at making these videos.
The correct answer on which to buy is neither just save your money for the fang fighter vs tie interceptor
Such a fresh vibe to your normal comparison videos ✌🏻 great video
Glad you liked it!!
I love the new style of editing/video of these comparisons.
Wow! Hands down one of your best reviews ever 😄! The new place looks awesome!
Once I find the diorama set at a discounted price I'm planning on upgrading. It just looks too good to pass up. So clean
0:19 amazing head turn XD
In my opinion this is really just weather you want a display set or a play set for kids so it’s weird comparison but you did a good job comparing the two great video 👍
bro got compared diorama and play set so hard💀💀💀
This is one of your most interest comparisons. These are two great sets that are both amazing in their own way and it's really hard to say which is better.
I still find it crazy that the summer 2020 wave happened almost 3 years ago now…
I love the design for dioramas but the play for the other throne room
The last 30 seconds of this video was some of the best content i ever seen
You should’ve compared all 3
I mean the first 2 is really close
There’s no point to roping in the 2015 model and the 2002 set… well same thing lol. I’ll make a “short/reel” for the 2002 set comparison though.
This vid was specifically these because of how recently the 2020 set was released and then having the same retail price. 👍👍
@@MandRproductions ohh thanks ryan for clearing it up for me big fan by the way this was a good video
I love your comparison videos!
Interesting comparison but it all comes down to what you prefer play-set or display set.for me I like a mix of both.
It's a fun story, but back when the original version of the playset came out I was like 12 years old and I really, really wanted it, but never asked my mom for it because of the price. Now I'm 19 and today I came across the diorama set and bought it in a heartbeat
Am I the only one that doesn’t like the new Luke Skywalker hair piece? I like the original hair piece…
I love that LEGO changed the lightsabers to that foggy texture, instead of the translucent that we used to have!
They should maybe sort of combine elements of each set sometime in the future, I like the throne & window better on the new version but I like the imperial guards underneath in the 2020 version
I really BADLY wish they released Jabba's Throne Room instead of this diorama. I got the 2020 version and just can't force myself to get excited about this one. If I didn't fully believe in the potential of the diorama collection, I'd easily give this a pass but the collector in me will probably pick it up at some point anyway...
The sizes really aren’t as far off as you might initially think. The throne and window is so much better as a display in the new set, but the old is still a nice playset.
both sets have their pros and cons, combine them and it's a great set.😊
4:28 some would say “streets ahead”
And if you have to ask, you’re streets behind.
I have a strange bit of luck when it comes to these two sets and finding them for cheap. Back in 2022, I found the 2020 set brand new for $60 at a game exchange and I bought it there. This year I found the 2023 set at walmart on clearance for $40. I basically paid half the price it would to get both sets on release day just by being patient. I love both of them so much and I’m proud to have them in my collection.
I already expanded the width of the 75291 set by 4 studs and made the window larger and deeper. I had planned on trying to make a new window based on a moc, but the peices were not cheap or easy to find. The new set has a perfect window, and i will be trying to combine the new set into the centre platform of the old set and expanding the sides. So for me, a combined set is the only answer. Very happy with the new one! =o)
I agree with every point you presented. I already own the play set but I’m going to pick up the diorama because it looks so freaking cool! I’m really digging these dioramas but am definitely disappointed by how the Endor diorama looks.
One question, I know that you don’t rely on the price per piece for the value of a set but is there value to the price per mini figure count that you look at, let’s say 5.00 per mini figure? 2022 has that 35.00 4+ set that I refuse to buy because that build and price is ridiculous and I can’t see paying 10+ dollars just for mini figs.
Anyway, love your videos and your honesty in your opinions about LEGO Star Wars sets.
Thank you for the detailed review! 🙂 Two different sets with two different audiences...So for me personally, I would go for the 2020 set due to the minifigures, size. In the end there is no right or wrong, it's just a matter of personal taste.
I’ve noticed that diorama sets and big, 1 to 1 scale MOCs can sometimes look quite barren and plain simply because they’re so accurate. I just prefer prefer a playset that encapsulates and highlights every interesting part of a scene, like how the 2020 version does. Damn, I wish I bought it.
I agree. Beautiful video.
I like the 2023 version better. The old one way all over the place, and the new one is so much cleaner.
I might consider picking it up if I ever see it on shelves for a good price.
the comparisons make sense, and for that reason I totally get the value of the playset, but for my interests, I dont play, I display, and that large window the emperor sits in front of is just so much more impactful for me in the capturing of that scene in the diorama.
0:21 😂 10/10 edit. Noticed you been doing little memes like this more. Love it bro adds so much flavor
im not the type of person to play with my sets a whole lot, but i do it sometimes for fun. and the diorama is actually kinda nice for play too
Love how the plinth is a part of your reviews now! 😂
I own the 2020 one, so I won't be getting the new one, but if I had neither and could buy either I would choose the new one.
Like the comparison although I really liked old chart method more than new one. Old one I can see more than new ine something about the colors. Keep up the great work.
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Great video! I am hoping to pick up the new diorama soon and build over on my channel!
I have the two throne room play sets, but I'll also give it to the diorama as the best one for display.
In fact, I intend to buy it precisely so it can replace the previous throne room set I have next to the UCS Super-Star Destroyer.
There's that word again! Plynth. Never heard of that word before. You're such a good wordsmith!
Luke’s hairpiece looks like Anton Chigurgh’s hair from “No Country for Old Men.”
I haven't seen a comparison video in a while lol!
When you said the price per piece adjusted for inflation I really thought you were gonna say the amount of pieces adjusted lol
I’m getting the 2023 version for May the 4th (along with the Speeder Bike set).
pretty cool review, now tell me more about the lego venator leaks
The guards were not really seen in the movies. Because there are more times but the only time I ever saw them was in episode lll
There are two scenes in EP.6 where the Royal Guards are seen: 1) When the Emperor disembarks his shuttle on board the second Death Star, he is accompanied by several of them, and 2) when Vader introduces Luke to the Emperor within his throne room there are at least two guarding the inside of the door, and the Emperor says "Guards, leave us." to allow for more privacy, and it shows them leaving. And they were first seen chronologically in Ep.2
Hands down this is the best review I’ve seen on UA-cam of a Lego set. Thank you thank you thank you
I’d say the plinth gives my vote to the diorama set
That window on the new Diorama set is just awesome!! I am very much into displaying my Lego sets so for me it's a clear choice in favor of the Diorama.
I like the newer Sidious minifigure. While the older one is more accurate in having pupils, I think the "pupiless Palpatine" makes him look less human if you know what I mean.
2:59 You actually did it YAAAY.... now tell me how many takes you had to do to get that right. HAHAHA
The old play set on the scale and detail of the new diorama could maybe be the best set every
I love the purple on the chair
I'm loving the new comparison format!
great video as always, i like when you have clips from the movies too
I love both these sets they but I wish the new one had guards
Also because I have the opportunity I have to do it ... FIRST
Yes I need guards
Great to see you doing more diverse content! - I'm with you Ryan - I buy them all - but If I had to choose it would be Diorama for the exact same reason as you - Display ability is just better. I'd be interested to see someone expand the diorama into a larger emperor throne room scene with even more detail. I think you have accurately described why LEGO has produced both play sets and display sets... again - great review - Nice editing and fun to watch content.
I’d be interested in finding a way to combine the two sets.
I love the display set I kinda wish I bought it I like having my sets on display like Ryan having display sets it’s so good for just looking good on your table
I won’t be picking up either, need to save up for that Venator
With figs like Palpatine, I just take off the cape to make it feel more acurate
So you don’t know the fact his eyes rol back when he uses lightning 😅
when you put them together like that at 5:04, I feel like you could actually remove the throne from the play set, then use the play set as an extension of the throne room diorama. They sorta look like they belong together
Are you talking about just the thrones, or are you talking about the throne areas?
Cause if it’s the throne areas, you’re never going to be able to use the play set as an extension of the diorama. The section the diorama represents is just too big to go along side everything else the play set represents.
If it’s just the thrones, then yeah that’s an easy switch.
Amazing video!
I think this was your best comparison so far
i prefer the design of the play set I find it to be more grand to have the walk way leading to the stairs up to the chair
I feel like the price would be more acceptable if they had two guards but for 100 bucks im going to pass and save for the venator
Over the years I have always wanted this set for my birthday. It’s around the corner, so I may have another chance 🥲
One thought I had is that you could use the diorama Palpatine minifig head to get a more accurate reborn Palpatine from epesoide 9.
Looking at them side be side.. I'd be inclined to mash them together and get the ultimate diorama
ROTJ was the Star Wars I watched the most as a kid, so any related sets have an immediate attraction, but I've already got the playset so don't feel I can justify the diorama at full retail price. If there's an opportunity to pick it up at a discount at some point during its run though, I'll absolutely be picking it up.
I agree on the palpatine design, finished the newer set today. like they really didn’t have to remove the pupils it’s not even movie accurate. still looks cool, but it doesn’t feel the exact same.
you forgot to rate the swooshability
I am an adult but I still prefer playsets, easily. I am an adult fan of Lego, and what is a Lego? A toy. Selling a display piece to a fan of toys will never make sense to me. I am a fan of Lego specifically because I like to see play features, moving parts, and "Lego-fications" of scenes. The dioramas have none of that, so I don't understand the appeal, personally. The release of this diorama has prompted me to buy the 2020 set from Bricklink.
It's a great set! I totally agree with what you said. These "display" sets just don't do it for me. The playsets are what LEGO is supposed to be. That's the nostalgia for me. That's why I was drawn to sets like Mod Eisley Cantina. Display sets I have are Darth Vader Meditation Chamber and the Dagobah Training diorama. The latter ones I will probably just sell. They are still NISB. I don't even know why I bought them, honestly. I guess I got sucked into them being so cheap when I made the purchase.
@@EchoBaseplates Honestly, I got Yoda's hut a few years ago, and that was the perfect substitute for the Dagobah display set. I have the Cantina too but I haven't built it yet. Don't have room rn
pls combine these two sets to 1 big moc. "This is the way !!!!!"
Papa palps looks scarier in the new sets without those pupils.
Gives me the heebie jeebies, he looks like a zombie!
While the new set has a nice design, it is definitely overpriced. 100 dollars for the other older playset seems much more reasonable because at least you get more minifigs and play valve. The new set is just a small little bit of the final duel area and make it feel incomplete. Lego is going crazy with the pricing of sets Nowadays, paying more than 70 dollars for that set seems too far
What no 2015 or 2002 set? I am Shocked and Appalled.
I do have the old play set, but I NEED the new diorama. It is sooo good looking. I just hope my wallet will allow me to get it.
I think that they did the pupils of palpatine away to be more like the other minifigures that have special eye color, like ahsoka, luminara etc, they also dont have pupil
How many attempts did it take to land Luke on the pathway ?😂
I do agree with you, I rather have the display.
That's surprisingly large. Suddenly the price isn't so bad.