This has happened twice in tucson. Sheriff helicopter chased the other one. The other big thing to note is that both incidents involved Davis-Montham Air Force Base.
@@ThatOpalGuyMultirotors don't have huge range, consumer available Wings, 50 miles is a doddle for the electric ones flying way point missions. 100 miles and above is comercial models. Heck, if this thing was a EDF or Turbine, the Heli would never keep up.
It was seen at/near an Air Force Base 1st and the Police are the ones worried about it? Military Drone being used/tested for sure or this would be a bigger deal.
@@conorstewart2214agreed, I routinely use the mountains in our area to “mountain climb” and stay 300-400 ft AGL while climbing up the mountain until I’m at the software limit of 1640 or the rare extended limits in some areas where you can go to I think 2800 or so as long as you’re still at 400ft AGL.. but flying down from a 14,000 summit to near below sea level in Tucson and back up raises battery issues.. definitely not a consumer DJI product.. probably one of the Chinese spy drones we keep hearing about, or our own government from the AFB
My guess is that it wasn't one drone. The military was probably playing with some new toys and since the helicopter couldn't see it well they didn't realize when one drone dropped out and another took over.
I been telling people this for years bc this is OLD NEWS!!!! it's a fixed wing 4g. I make them and fly them. I can go 3 or 4 hours up to 100 plus miles away at 100 mph. It's not difficult only cost about 2500 bucks to make that's cheaper then a mavic 3... please yall need to chill tf out on this. Government just mad bc we are smarter when we try. It's not a quad it's a fixed wing!!!!!!!
i agree it has to be fixed wing, especially at those altitudes, speeds, flight time and distance.. air is thin at 14k . choppers generally dont fly above 15000 feet
Exactly! Everyone keeps saying "drone" and using pictures of a DJI quad-copter. This had to have been a flying wing with long range radios on it. These "experts" know nothing about hobbyist FPV platforms apparently...
Using 4g there is no limit to range...there is several FPV missions on youtube. You also have dragon link UHF for long range fpv flight. The speed and capacity is interesting though
I use Dragonlink on one of my FPV planes and you are right, range can be up to 20+ miles, or 4g could be unlimited. You can get an hour or more out of a plane but definitely not a quad. So, that's my question. Is It a quad or plane?
So where is the police chopper footage of this supposed chase? 100 MPH for an hour? I'm totally calling bullshit on this story. The 14k feet is totally possible, but the hour long chase, and no inferred signature just isn't plausible. (Because not being battery powered would mean that it has exhaust system....)
@@Galiuros That wouldn't matter, because I don't think the police chopper can fly that high anyhow. The drone can, because its crew doesn't need breathe at that level..... ;-)
@@JimsEquipmentShed My point, really, was the accuracy of the information. Fact checking is not a bad thing and being correct lends credibility to the message. Just to add... Cartel drug carrying drones wouldn't venture more than a few miles past the Border to do their drop. These drops are coordinated with other cartel members that hang out on remote desert peaks. (I've lived in southern Arizona for over 40 years.)
I believe this being Tucson, Arizona this is a hobbyist builder who realized the felony violation by nearly colliding with a DHS Helicopter. Then this person just decided to go Air GTA to escape prosecution.
Not really hobbyist class... a drone that can fly that long (time), that fast, that high, and that distance from the controller... that's a $20k to $40k machine... using hydrogen fuel cell for endurance, probably hybrid flight mode for speed and altitude.
That is far from hobbyist level. There are few hobbyist drones that will go 100mph and maintain that for a long period of time. That's military technology. Normal LiPo batteries just don't have the energy density for that kind of operation. You would have to lug around a battery the size of car - and most of that energy would be just to carry the battery :D
Talk about an extreme waste of tax dollars. There is NO WAY they can justify paying a helicopter pilot and spending all that money on fuel to follow a drone!! Even if they had caught up to it, what would they have done, have a second person in the helicopter open the side door and throw out a lasso to apprehend the rogue drone???
No, they were hoping to chase it until it ran out of juice and landed or crashed. Or, better yet, return to home. But the drone obviously had the tech and capacity to avoid that.
If the police helicopter had been able to pull within camera view of the renegade drone, orders to pull over could have been issued so that airspace violation citations and speeding tickets could be served on the usual suspects.
Its more so to keep track of it to make sure it doesnt interfere with air traffic, it doesnt show up on radar and apparently already almost hit a helicopter. It might seem like a lot to waste but its a smaller price than the potential impact it could have if it were to cause a plane crash. Its also possible they were attempting to track or block the signal going toward it, i would imagine most larger city police departments have a system that is made by dji that allows them to identify and track or locate the drone pilot. I also imagine that they had such a hard time seeing it because i don't really think those camera systems they use are really the best at tracking things that are closer and in the air since the majority of the time they are looking at things on the ground.
try yourself filming a flying drone you'll understand why: aiming camera at 200ft at 10in moving object and then worse: holding it onto it is just impossible .
I hate the word "drone". Was it a quad or other multi-rotor? Regular helo type? Winged? And if winged or single-rotor, how do we know it wasn't gas powered? Other than the cops were chasing "something", that's all we know. And why aren't there 100 FAA agents enforcing 107 on this pilot? Oh, that's right, we just make up stuff to penalize the law abiding hobbyist.
That term “drone” is what destroyed my beloved RC hobby. Now all RC aircraft are considered “drones” and subject to government interference. I tried for years to reverse the use of this terminology by only using terms like “quad rotor” and “multi rotor” but unfortunately the other hobbyists went right along with the government instead of pushing back. Now I have multiple aircraft hanging on my wall that I used to fly weekly, but now are too big and too fast and are subject to government rules and regulations forcing licensing and gps locators. Can’t even fly smaller aircraft in a local park anymore without being harassed by someone looking for trouble.
My definition of a drone is something that can fly missions autonomously (i.e. it has a GPS), even them, i still call them quads, planes, etc., if it crashes or goes off in a random direction when you let go of the sticks, it's not a drone. Seriously, they keep showing DJI and then suddenly switch to a reaper? Those are two completely different aircraft! No quad can go full tilt for an hour but i can still believe a plane can do it. If it's a hybrid then quads are completely out of the question, the weight would be far too much. Man, i haven't really flown my planes since lockdown.
@@ClannerA01 That's funny, I got back into RC during the plandemic. I needed something to do that involved getting out and being defiant, you know? Compliance was never an option.
This is one of the theories that I find plausible. Fuel is heavy, though. Maybe someone with specific knowledge can comment on what kind of flight time can be expected with an internal combustion engine.
You don't need a gas powered drone: just a wing. Amazing that no one knows about winged drones. They are much faster and fly for much longer and aren't expensive.
As a fpv drone hobbyist, this sounds pretty impressive. 100mph is easy to achieve, 1 hour is also easy to achieve and range is not an issue with elrs, but constant high speed and an hour of flight time is very hard to achieve, unless it is as they said, a hybrid system, but I've never seen such thing before. There was a drone that ran on 4 nitro engines in the past but it ran poorly as you obviously couldn't use any pid controllers on the output power of the motors. It is possible that it could've been a fixed wing, it's a shame that they show no footage or anything to analyse. They also never mention the size. If it'd a larger type of drone, like the military drone then it can be possible but I'm not experienced in those types of drones
It’s an FPV drone. You can get it commercially from example iflight. You may believe FPV drones only can go for about 3-5 minutes, but if it’s like a 10” (inch) or bigger you can apply a HUGE battery like 20k mah which makes it available to fly for incredibly long. Those FPV drones can also go at immense speeds.
If I’m correct, the drone showcases there was an DJI inspire 1, x2 battery 40min flight time, and can be hot swaped, prob it was a dude trying to do cinematic with the police.
I think the flaw in the debate is assuming it was a battery powered drone. I can think of ways a nitro or other fueled single engine could power a quad rotor drone. There are ways to cool/shield exhaust output, especially at 100mph. Honestly the oddest part to me is not the drone but the lack of any pictures of it.
Let's clarify this incorrect statement from the drone "expert" in this video. 100mph drone speed was estimated. It is EASY to make a fast drone. It is EASY to add an extra battery. It is EASY to add communication mini boards. And people who build drones from scratch know that it is also EASY to build such a drone CHEAPLY. I never built for speed, but anyone can build a high quality drone from scratch for 1/10th the price of commercialized drones.
I think you were spot on with the suggestion of cartel involvement. They have endless supplies of cash and definitely have motive to develop tech to help them be the criminals they are. The fact that it was initially reported to be near Border Patrol is telling as well...
I wonder if it was a plane with something like DJI/Walksnail camera and transmitter. Planes can fly further for longer, but running 100 mph for over an hour would still be in the realm of difficult.
Most important point - they have NO IDEA what it was. It may not have even been a drone. IF it was, then it was either a ridiculously sophisticated home build (highly highly unlikely), or a defense/military build.
I work in the film industry. We use professional grade drones, and many are custom built. Don't listen to any "drone expert" about what is not possible. Because I've seen many times that almost anything is possible.
The only thing I could think of, is maybe someone has finally built a diamond battery that can run for a very long time at crazy speeds. Definitely someone with big money.
It's 400' AGL (Above Ground Level) when you encounter a building, hill, mountain you can fly over it up to 400' above the building or ground underneath the Drone, I have my FAA drone license. Now it's running at that speed and over an hour it's got some serious battery power or they are exaggerating the timeline. Police tend to do this.
5:17 Davis Monthan AFB is a maintenance and storage depot for decommissioned aircraft. Literal thousands of acres of mothballed planes they scavenge for parts before scrapping them. Doubtful they would be testing anything unique there. A hobbyist flying something where they shouldn't in order to get cool shots, on the other hand...
I am a fpv pilot, the flight time definitely says this drone is military. I have seen the Red Bull drone and what it took to make a fpv drone move at 200 mph. Battery consumption at those speeds speeds like you mentioned is only about 5 to 6 minutes. Definitely government involved. Especially since they're still testing swarm technology now imagine 100 of those dropped from a plane
I have a problem with them saying it was going over 100 MPH and running circles around them but they were circling it which means it was much slower than 100 MPH, but then its a helicopter that can hover so if it was slower why were they continually circling? And then if they could not see it how were they circling and how could they only see the belly light? NOTHING in this story is adding up at all....
I got chased by a police heli during an event. I was 10km away in a crowd. I managed to outrun the heli, land and hide it seconds before the heli arrived on top of us. I was then just someone in the crowd. Fun times.
People are assuming this is an inefficient quadcopter, how could it fly for 30 minutes, but it could have been an efficient RC plane that could fly for hours. They are also assuming it was a large vehicle, but could only see a green light. This could be a very small vehicle...
That's what I was thinking. They could have multiple up there and turning lights on and off to be seen when they want, to create an illusion it was one moving super fast. The pilot is probably a magician.
longest-flying commercially available quad is probably the DJI mini 3, at just over 50 minutes, but that has a top speed of 35mph, and at that speed you'll be lucky to get half an hour of flight... 100mph for an hour plus? The only way that's civilian tech is if someone as a ***lot*** of money to pour into it.
Sounds really more like a FPV RC plane...some of them can get some ultra long range and some have really decent batteries that can last for quite a bit of time
Distance isn't an issue if you're connected via cellular. Speed isn't an issue, it just depends on power available. But endurance means the drone has to be larger than most battery powered ones.
Darpa flies quod drones that fly for 4 hours! And some can even fly 20 hours! They use very exotic batteries that the civilian side will never learn about!
They don't really mention the size of the drone. It could be done with a fixed wing or a VTOL. Very expensive and highly specialised but not impossible.
Not seeing anything to say it was a Multi-Rotor. Those speeds and manuverability, plus the range and the altitude, could easily be a TBS Caipirinha with an FPV system. The right TBS modules for Tx and Rx can get 25 mile range with ease, and electric wing models already have shown 50 mile ranges in Consumer level gear. However, given the point of origin of the flight is at a military base, it's likey a border patrol UAV that wasn't supposed to be seen by local law enforcement.
I have twice now seen a black fixed wing drone, 10-12 feet wingspan with four blue flame jet engines. Flying at dusk 30 feet above me on a highway - so very very close. I called the local FAA tower and no response. Obviously a military or police op and seemingly very illegal. They flew at a 45 degree angle from me so not scared of me taking pictures or seeing it.
this would be a security issue if it was first spotted at an Air Force base !
The only security issue is the US government
...CHINESE OWNED & RUN DRONE
There's an Air National Guard base at Tucson's International Airport.
Would NEVER make it near it. You're very Naive.
They HAVE BEEN spotting UAS's at USAF bases for DECADES!!!!
Sounds like someone at the military base had a fun day
We're being groomed
@@vapormissileyou people just take words and misuse them until they have zero meaning.
@@dizzleslaunsen2372 we're being led to false conclusions.. grow up
Raytheon
@@vapormissile He's not wrong.
How is it they chase a drone but let a Chinese balloon fly by?
U stupid or something?
Because the government feels more threatened by Americans than their enemies
My thoughts exactly.
One of those places where cops get no action, and stop you if you you're the only car out at night😂
Follow the Money.
It’s the US Air Force messing with two cross eyed police officers flying in circles in a helicopter! God bless America!
The police couldn't identify the drone. So.... it was a UFO.
Or.... the police couldn't identify the UFO, so it was a drone?!
or it was a rc airplane
@@ragndroneman The drone in this case was a "Unidentified Flying Object" So it is a UFO. :)
FINALLY someone uses the term properly.
But they could identify it.
Because they called it a drone
This has happened twice in tucson. Sheriff helicopter chased the other one. The other big thing to note is that both incidents involved Davis-Montham Air Force Base.
my guess is cartel
@timk.3286 drones don't have that range. But good try.
@@ThatOpalGuy They can be launched anywhere. It's not like they would have to launch from. mexico
@@ThatOpalGuyMultirotors don't have huge range, consumer available Wings, 50 miles is a doddle for the electric ones flying way point missions. 100 miles and above is comercial models. Heck, if this thing was a EDF or Turbine, the Heli would never keep up.
@joshuarespecki1883 not true, you gotta check your weather and provide infrastructure to operate and recharge the drone and the equipment
It was seen at/near an Air Force Base 1st and the Police are the ones worried about it? Military Drone being used/tested for sure or this would be a bigger deal.
that is 400 feet AGL..
You can fly from a 14k foot summit and go to 14,400 legally.
Hahahaha. Nice Part 107 joke there. Don’t worry. I won’t let it go unappreciated
@@sienp9674idk what the issue is, the drone was performing emergency procedures to give the manned ac right of way
@@sienp9674 what joke? That is literally what the law is.
@@conorstewart2214agreed, I routinely use the mountains in our area to “mountain climb” and stay 300-400 ft AGL while climbing up the mountain until I’m at the software limit of 1640 or the rare extended limits in some areas where you can go to I think 2800 or so as long as you’re still at 400ft AGL.. but flying down from a 14,000 summit to near below sea level in Tucson and back up raises battery issues.. definitely not a consumer DJI product.. probably one of the Chinese spy drones we keep hearing about, or our own government from the AFB
Limited by airspace classification. Not a blanket 400ft rule.
I almost have to call B-S on the news story... over an hour of flight at those speeds and manuevers on a single charge...??? C'mon Man!!! I want one!
Exactly imagine its our military and these dinks are wasting tax dollars. OR something else happened and they CLAIMED this as the excuse.
Either BS, or a DARPA drone that was tested without notifying anyone to gauge their response.
My guess is that it wasn't one drone. The military was probably playing with some new toys and since the helicopter couldn't see it well they didn't realize when one drone dropped out and another took over.
It's not even "next gen" tech... its just duel fuel and possibly hobbyist level.... hardly mil tech
@@highcommander2007 A tiny drone with that kind of endurance?
I been telling people this for years bc this is OLD NEWS!!!! it's a fixed wing 4g. I make them and fly them. I can go 3 or 4 hours up to 100 plus miles away at 100 mph. It's not difficult only cost about 2500 bucks to make that's cheaper then a mavic 3... please yall need to chill tf out on this. Government just mad bc we are smarter when we try. It's not a quad it's a fixed wing!!!!!!!
Would be pretty sweet to be able to fly a drone about 100 miles back-and-forth i kinda wish i had a extra 2500 😂😎
i agree it has to be fixed wing, especially at those altitudes, speeds, flight time and distance.. air is thin at 14k . choppers generally dont fly above 15000 feet
Exactly! Everyone keeps saying "drone" and using pictures of a DJI quad-copter. This had to have been a flying wing with long range radios on it. These "experts" know nothing about hobbyist FPV platforms apparently...
Spot on
Definitely aliens
Martians
You know aliens, always up to some tomfoolery
Illegal aliens.
Using 4g there is no limit to range...there is several FPV missions on youtube. You also have dragon link UHF for long range fpv flight. The speed and capacity is interesting though
I use Dragonlink on one of my FPV planes and you are right, range can be up to 20+ miles, or 4g could be unlimited. You can get an hour or more out of a plane but definitely not a quad. So, that's my question. Is It a quad or plane?
Most on this platform cant grasp what you just mentioned. Yet I have to register my back yard toy level UAS.
@@bidenisasnake9932 you dont have to do shit. fuck the faa
100mph is achievable with a 6s fixed wing drone
@@staymad7206 100mph is possible on a quad or tri copter too, not THAT hard
So where is the police chopper footage of this supposed chase? 100 MPH for an hour? I'm totally calling bullshit on this story.
The 14k feet is totally possible, but the hour long chase, and no inferred signature just isn't plausible. (Because not being battery powered would mean that it has exhaust system....)
Yup... I'm calling BS aswell!
They want to take our rights away.
Mount Lemmon, the highest peak in the Catalina Mountains is only about 9200 feet. There are no 14,000 foot peaks in Arizona.
@@Galiuros That wouldn't matter, because I don't think the police chopper can fly that high anyhow.
The drone can, because its crew doesn't need breathe at that level..... ;-)
@@JimsEquipmentShed My point, really, was the accuracy of the information. Fact checking is not a bad thing and being correct lends credibility to the message.
Just to add... Cartel drug carrying drones wouldn't venture more than a few miles past the Border to do their drop. These drops are coordinated with other cartel members that hang out on remote desert peaks. (I've lived in southern Arizona for over 40 years.)
I believe this being Tucson, Arizona this is a hobbyist builder who realized the felony violation by nearly colliding with a DHS Helicopter. Then this person just decided to go Air GTA to escape prosecution.
I live in the Tucson Valley, the area it covered is obscenely vast.
@@PauloBerni699 Aloha neighbor! Whetstone, AZ here. Blessings
Not really hobbyist class... a drone that can fly that long (time), that fast, that high, and that distance from the controller... that's a $20k to $40k machine... using hydrogen fuel cell for endurance, probably hybrid flight mode for speed and altitude.
@@PauloBerni699 It's not that far from DMAFB to the top of Mt Lemmon. It only seems like it is because the road system is so terrible.
That is far from hobbyist level. There are few hobbyist drones that will go 100mph and maintain that for a long period of time. That's military technology. Normal LiPo batteries just don't have the energy density for that kind of operation. You would have to lug around a battery the size of car - and most of that energy would be just to carry the battery :D
Talk about an extreme waste of tax dollars. There is NO WAY they can justify paying a helicopter pilot and spending all that money on fuel to follow a drone!! Even if they had caught up to it, what would they have done, have a second person in the helicopter open the side door and throw out a lasso to apprehend the rogue drone???
Sure they can, remember we used to have $400 hammers that are now $2400 hammers????
No, they were hoping to chase it until it ran out of juice and landed or crashed. Or, better yet, return to home. But the drone obviously had the tech and capacity to avoid that.
The pilots risked everyone in tucson's lives by chasing a toy like that for an hour
If the police helicopter had been able to pull within camera view of the renegade drone, orders to pull over could have been issued so that airspace violation citations and speeding tickets could be served on the usual suspects.
Its more so to keep track of it to make sure it doesnt interfere with air traffic, it doesnt show up on radar and apparently already almost hit a helicopter. It might seem like a lot to waste but its a smaller price than the potential impact it could have if it were to cause a plane crash. Its also possible they were attempting to track or block the signal going toward it, i would imagine most larger city police departments have a system that is made by dji that allows them to identify and track or locate the drone pilot. I also imagine that they had such a hard time seeing it because i don't really think those camera systems they use are really the best at tracking things that are closer and in the air since the majority of the time they are looking at things on the ground.
How is it that we have no footage of the drone??? The helicopter has cameras, right??
Agreed
try yourself filming a flying drone you'll understand why:
aiming camera at 200ft at 10in moving object and then worse: holding it onto it is just impossible .
@@RESISTAGE i agree but c'mon not caught on even a single frame?
I hate the word "drone". Was it a quad or other multi-rotor? Regular helo type? Winged? And if winged or single-rotor, how do we know it wasn't gas powered?
Other than the cops were chasing "something", that's all we know.
And why aren't there 100 FAA agents enforcing 107 on this pilot?
Oh, that's right, we just make up stuff to penalize the law abiding hobbyist.
That term “drone” is what destroyed my beloved RC hobby. Now all RC aircraft are considered “drones” and subject to government interference. I tried for years to reverse the use of this terminology by only using terms like “quad rotor” and “multi rotor” but unfortunately the other hobbyists went right along with the government instead of pushing back. Now I have multiple aircraft hanging on my wall that I used to fly weekly, but now are too big and too fast and are subject to government rules and regulations forcing licensing and gps locators. Can’t even fly smaller aircraft in a local park anymore without being harassed by someone looking for trouble.
@@MasterMayhem78 I just do it anyway. I don't register my guns either.
My definition of a drone is something that can fly missions autonomously (i.e. it has a GPS), even them, i still call them quads, planes, etc., if it crashes or goes off in a random direction when you let go of the sticks, it's not a drone.
Seriously, they keep showing DJI and then suddenly switch to a reaper? Those are two completely different aircraft! No quad can go full tilt for an hour but i can still believe a plane can do it. If it's a hybrid then quads are completely out of the question, the weight would be far too much.
Man, i haven't really flown my planes since lockdown.
@@ClannerA01 That's funny, I got back into RC during the plandemic. I needed something to do that involved getting out and being defiant, you know? Compliance was never an option.
@@smugfrog8111 So you follow the rules you want. How do you feel about others doing that?
Remote identification is now a federal requirement. Could there be people out there who don't obey laws?
Surely not
Yes they are called they ones who force the laws 🎉
Fake law for the mindless
People who build freestyle drones....
Nah, humans are always benevolent and law-abiding
Gas powered drones are a thing. Replace normal transmitters with cellular and you have far more reach
People will be at your doorstep shortly, dress casual and expect an extended absence...
@@RANGER73CPT So, level IV plates?
This is one of the theories that I find plausible. Fuel is heavy, though. Maybe someone with specific knowledge can comment on what kind of flight time can be expected with an internal combustion engine.
@@Dwigt_Rortugal Electromagnetic gravitic propulsion.
You don't need a gas powered drone: just a wing. Amazing that no one knows about winged drones. They are much faster and fly for much longer and aren't expensive.
They were chasing a Canadian goose….😂
ok i laughed
African or European swallow?
No it was Daffy Duck
Drone pilot simply didn't want the toy to fall into the wrong hands.
You call it a drone, its a UAP until there is a better explanation.
is this watering down UFO to UAP, same as the likes of pedohpiles being called bloody MAPs. Or Rape being called Sexual assault. Same shit
A drone that could go over 10'009 ft , fly over 100 mph and no heat signature for over an hour is beyond our known technology.
@@ephjay6t87 A 200$ EDF Jet Plane can do all of these.
About an hour south of Tucson is Fort Huachuca, the Army's intelligence and UAV training base.
This story is VERY intriguing..would like to hear and see more about this...
It will pop up again.
This video is old, it was uploaded more than 2 years ago.
and we still don't know..
@@chicagoskycam It would be alien drone. We don't know.
lol who the hell are the people to post videos 2 years into the future?
As a fpv drone hobbyist, this sounds pretty impressive. 100mph is easy to achieve, 1 hour is also easy to achieve and range is not an issue with elrs, but constant high speed and an hour of flight time is very hard to achieve, unless it is as they said, a hybrid system, but I've never seen such thing before.
There was a drone that ran on 4 nitro engines in the past but it ran poorly as you obviously couldn't use any pid controllers on the output power of the motors.
It is possible that it could've been a fixed wing, it's a shame that they show no footage or anything to analyse.
They also never mention the size. If it'd a larger type of drone, like the military drone then it can be possible but I'm not experienced in those types of drones
It’s an FPV drone. You can get it commercially from example iflight. You may believe FPV drones only can go for about 3-5 minutes, but if it’s like a 10” (inch) or bigger you can apply a HUGE battery like 20k mah which makes it available to fly for incredibly long. Those FPV drones can also go at immense speeds.
It would be cool if you mentioned the date on the incident. Looks like sometime in 2021 from the ads-b
If I’m correct, the drone showcases there was an DJI inspire 1, x2 battery 40min flight time, and can be hot swaped, prob it was a dude trying to do cinematic with the police.
The most obvious answer is that the drone doesn’t exist.
BOT!
Russian or Chinese government sponsors? Which was why it was loitering around a military base.
I agree
Alien drone needs no power
I think the flaw in the debate is assuming it was a battery powered drone. I can think of ways a nitro or other fueled single engine could power a quad rotor drone. There are ways to cool/shield exhaust output, especially at 100mph. Honestly the oddest part to me is not the drone but the lack of any pictures of it.
1:38 "they're circling it and its circling them" *Circle of Life* 🦁👑
What a crazy case. Great breakdown of the situation!
Per faa rules (cfr 14 part 107) maximum legal speed of a drone is 87kts (100mph) ground speed.
They couldn't see it on RADAR; I'm pretty sure that's what they meant. I used to be stationed at DMAFB, as a Air Traffic Control RADAR Specialist
Adding the little micro generator and a fuel tank to your drone is pretty epic dude. Probably going to do that next
Cartel
Definitely could be.
Sounds like the cartel.
Sounds more like a DJI ban
It is a MILITARY drone they have them in Phoenix too, one crashed near my house and the military officer asked neighbors about it.
Let's clarify this incorrect statement from the drone "expert" in this video. 100mph drone speed was estimated. It is EASY to make a fast drone. It is EASY to add an extra battery. It is EASY to add communication mini boards. And people who build drones from scratch know that it is also EASY to build such a drone CHEAPLY. I never built for speed, but anyone can build a high quality drone from scratch for 1/10th the price of commercialized drones.
I think you were spot on with the suggestion of cartel involvement. They have endless supplies of cash and definitely have motive to develop tech to help them be the criminals they are. The fact that it was initially reported to be near Border Patrol is telling as well...
Someone brought their drone back from Ukraine.
I wonder if it was a plane with something like DJI/Walksnail camera and transmitter. Planes can fly further for longer, but running 100 mph for over an hour would still be in the realm of difficult.
I have flown many RC aircraft at Davis-Monthan AFB, back in the late 1970's
Most important point - they have NO IDEA what it was. It may not have even been a drone. IF it was, then it was either a ridiculously sophisticated home build (highly highly unlikely), or a defense/military build.
Isn't this the same incident reported three years ago with ATC audio?
Its a military project end of story
But which military? Ours has dedicated airspace for testing aircraft.
They have tech we cant even comprehend
I work in the film industry. We use professional grade drones, and many are custom built. Don't listen to any "drone expert" about what is not possible. Because I've seen many times that almost anything is possible.
Either they were confused or there were multiple drones deployed. There's no portable energy supply that can sustain those speeds for that long.
100mph for hours is crazy probably a military technology or someone extremely rich and smart like tony stark
The army base at sierra vista is one of the places the army's drone develop,emt amd research is based. it is east and south of the area it was seen.
The only thing I could think of, is maybe someone has finally built a diamond battery that can run for a very long time at crazy speeds. Definitely someone with big money.
2021 Police report....
Those are aliens flying their homemade drones
It's my hydrogen powered drone. But nobody will believe me so I'm good.
sound like to me someone is researching a new drone to sell and forgot to tell the cops. lol.
It's 400' AGL (Above Ground Level) when you encounter a building, hill, mountain you can fly over it up to 400' above the building or ground underneath the Drone, I have my FAA drone license. Now it's running at that speed and over an hour it's got some serious battery power or they are exaggerating the timeline. Police tend to do this.
It was flying over an air force base but they didn’t think to use a jammer to disable the drone
It won’t be a quad copter, it will be a fixed wing fpv, which are readily available.
5:17 Davis Monthan AFB is a maintenance and storage depot for decommissioned aircraft. Literal thousands of acres of mothballed planes they scavenge for parts before scrapping them. Doubtful they would be testing anything unique there.
A hobbyist flying something where they shouldn't in order to get cool shots, on the other hand...
CBP air wing there .Drug cartel spying on them.
I am a fpv pilot, the flight time definitely says this drone is military. I have seen the Red Bull drone and what it took to make a fpv drone move at 200 mph. Battery consumption at those speeds speeds like you mentioned is only about 5 to 6 minutes. Definitely government involved. Especially since they're still testing swarm technology now imagine 100 of those dropped from a plane
We get that range and time on 7s using fpv fixed wing, but not that speed and maneuverability
I wonder if Sandia labs is testing an exotic energy source in a hyperflight model drone--?
I have a problem with them saying it was going over 100 MPH and running circles around them but they were circling it which means it was much slower than 100 MPH, but then its a helicopter that can hover so if it was slower why were they continually circling? And then if they could not see it how were they circling and how could they only see the belly light? NOTHING in this story is adding up at all....
Army flys UAVs a hour and a half away from Tucson. I don’t know if there’s any connection.
I got chased by a police heli during an event. I was 10km away in a crowd. I managed to outrun the heli, land and hide it seconds before the heli arrived on top of us. I was then just someone in the crowd. Fun times.
Whatever happened to reports of a person flying over San Francisco Bay 2-3 years ago?
Finally, ALIEN LIFE SHOWS IT HAS A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR!!!!! TIC-TAC meets TOK-TOK!!!!!
Minty fresh!
People are assuming this is an inefficient quadcopter, how could it fly for 30 minutes, but it could have been an efficient RC plane that could fly for hours. They are also assuming it was a large vehicle, but could only see a green light. This could be a very small vehicle...
I bet the pilot is laughing his ass off somewhere 😂
i know i would be!
It is a terrible idea to chase a UAS with a manned aircraft, especially if you cannot communicate with the remote pilot.
Possible more than 1 drone
could be
That's what I was thinking. They could have multiple up there and turning lights on and off to be seen when they want, to create an illusion it was one moving super fast. The pilot is probably a magician.
Looks like the governor of Arizona is going to have to bring out a guy in an alien suit…..again. 👽
(Phoenix Lights 1997)
longest-flying commercially available quad is probably the DJI mini 3, at just over 50 minutes, but that has a top speed of 35mph, and at that speed you'll be lucky to get half an hour of flight... 100mph for an hour plus? The only way that's civilian tech is if someone as a ***lot*** of money to pour into it.
Nation state actor would make sense if you knew about some of the CCP students going to school at the U of A.
There is a Honeywell testing facility north of Tucson in the San tan mountain park area. It could’ve been something from there.
I have seen hybrid nitro methane engine with batteries that allow for well over 1 hour.
This NOT beyond anything commercially available.
yes it is?..
@@SilvanPierce No it isn't? You can buy all of these parts online....ANYONE has access to them.
@@nick4819 Go ahead and tell me what parts you can buy online to make a drone that can go over 100 mph for over an hour at a time. I'll wait.
I beg to differ. Prove it
@@nick4819 prove it please
Its a 13 year old who got sent to her grandparents retirement home for punishment.
Oh I’m Sorry …..was I going to fast, if I turn myself in do I GET THE REWARD? 😂😂😂😂😂
Sounds really more like a FPV RC plane...some of them can get some ultra long range and some have really decent batteries that can last for quite a bit of time
More than one drone.
This was not a commercial drone.
This is a military DHS drone
We have seen them over NYC
Comy drone.
Sounds like a UFO, not a drone.
That wasnt a drone, thats a UFO
Distance isn't an issue if you're connected via cellular. Speed isn't an issue, it just depends on power available. But endurance means the drone has to be larger than most battery powered ones.
They weren't chasing anything. They just needed an excuse to take the helicopter for a joy ride.
Exactly!!!
Top secret military test drone!
Darpa flies quod drones that fly for 4 hours! And some can even fly 20 hours! They use very exotic batteries that the civilian side will never learn about!
They don't really mention the size of the drone. It could be done with a fixed wing or a VTOL. Very expensive and highly specialised but not impossible.
Not seeing anything to say it was a Multi-Rotor. Those speeds and manuverability, plus the range and the altitude, could easily be a TBS Caipirinha with an FPV system. The right TBS modules for Tx and Rx can get 25 mile range with ease, and electric wing models already have shown 50 mile ranges in Consumer level gear.
However, given the point of origin of the flight is at a military base, it's likey a border patrol UAV that wasn't supposed to be seen by local law enforcement.
There are drones that do over 200mph nowadays. Now some that will do over 300mph. They haven't even seen fast yet.
A guy in south africa built a drone that set a speed world record that beat the red bull drone by a substantial amount.
I have twice now seen a black fixed wing drone, 10-12 feet wingspan with four blue flame jet engines. Flying at dusk 30 feet above me on a highway - so very very close. I called the local FAA tower and no response. Obviously a military or police op and seemingly very illegal. They flew at a 45 degree angle from me so not scared of me taking pictures or seeing it.
Sounds like some type of military drone of some kind. Looks like whatever it is passed the test.
Lol, I love the incompetence. "Oh god a drone almost crashed into my heli, better put more helis in the sky so he has a higher chance of crashing!"
Sounds more like a ufo than a drone?
“Drones are a danger to other aircraft!”
Proceeds to try putting other aircraft in its airspace
That fast for over an hour? And with low density altitude that battery life goes down even more. It’s almost impossible for it to be quad copter.