THIS Is WHY The DJI Mini 3 PRO Has Signal PROBLEMS! ( Yet Some Don't )

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  • Some DJI Mini 3 PRO are suffering from bad range / signal and seeing connection differences between the RC-N1 and RC controller with lot of disconnections and performing worse than the DJI Mini 2 where others are saying their drone has a great signal! There has to be an explanation why results are so varied, In this video I explain and demonstrate exactly what I think the problem is and what to look out for to fix it.
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  • @TECHDRONEMEDIA
    @TECHDRONEMEDIA 2 роки тому +40

    Killer intro 😍Thank you for a very plausible explanation why we see these differences

  • @davemanary7243
    @davemanary7243 2 роки тому +11

    Good Day Gavin. I am an old Ham Radio operator, and a couple of weeks ago I had made an observation about the many stories of the Mini 3 Pro range issues, and at that time I, as now still have not received my new Mini 3, so I could not try the experiment that you have just done. I want to thank you for taking the time to test this out. I believe that you may have hit the nail on the head. I suspected that Ocusync 3 is having a problem deciding which frequency to use and when, and thus also creating a hesitation between choosing frequencies, therefore loss of signal, only to regain it again a minute later when Ocusync 3 makes up it's mind. I also do not think it makes a great amount of difference which controller is being used. Thank you so much for doing this test. I really hope Dji pays attention to your video posts. GOOD JOB!!!!

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you very much for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed the test and the reasoning and that our suspicions seem to be in line with each other. Appreciate you wanting and your comment thank you

    • @petemccalam5727
      @petemccalam5727 22 дні тому

      Aaaaaw. How lovely.........Ham!..............
      Great video, first time viewer, trying to figure out why my new mini 3 wont gove RTH option🤔

  • @ianrmallett
    @ianrmallett Рік тому +5

    Just upgraded from Mini SE to a Mini 3Pro and was very disapponted with the range. I saw you video yesterday and swapped to manual and 2.4GHz (I am rural) and my range doubled instantly. Thanks!

    • @usamalization
      @usamalization 5 місяців тому

      i got mine and faced the range issue today, it barely went a few steps away from me before losing signal, should i switch to 2.4ghz?

  • @HeyitsmeSarah
    @HeyitsmeSarah 2 роки тому +54

    The image in the video pretty much tells me that the drone is still on the ground. Before the drone takes off, the distance between the drone and the remote would only be a couple of feet, so obviously there won't be any connection issues. So from that point until a certain distance interference would not be strong enough to cause a channel switch as Ocusync is designed to do. Doesn't matter whether you're using the RC-N1 or the DJI-RC.

  • @maccakianmike
    @maccakianmike 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks for this gavin . I had a flight last night around Nottingham castle and couldn’t get very far without complete drop out . Tonight I’ve switched to 5.8ghz and it’s made a huge difference

  • @chiangmaicharlies
    @chiangmaicharlies Рік тому +2

    OMG! Videos like this are worth their weight in gold - thanks for making it.

  • @telebeater
    @telebeater 2 роки тому +28

    Well FINIALLY somebody has done his homework and provides a real possible cause of the range discrepancies with the Mini 3 PRO. Excellent video and maybe DJI is watching and will update the firmware accordingly. Thanks lots as you have put my mine at ease.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому +3

      Thank you kindly ☺️ I enjoy this stuff I miss it so I wanted to test the theory out 🙂

    • @alvinmortimer7536
      @alvinmortimer7536 2 роки тому +2

      He did his "dronework"

    • @BNatoAk
      @BNatoAk Рік тому

      @@GAVINHR agreed, I'm going with that.

  • @MatthiasLenardt
    @MatthiasLenardt Рік тому +2

    Absolutely 💯 you are absolutely right. Often it's not the signal strength, but the interference that reduces the range.
    Have excellent flights.
    Much love
    Matthias 👋

  • @alankjkj1
    @alankjkj1 2 роки тому +17

    What would DJI do without you? Thank you for all the information you pass on and the work that goes into it. I definitely will pay more attention to this.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому

      I appreciate that!

  • @christi4nbellet
    @christi4nbellet Рік тому

    Thanks to you, I increased the range by 4, from 300m to 1300m at least by switching to 5.8 Ghz. Many thanks!

  • @simonsmith2969
    @simonsmith2969 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting, thanks. I've certainly seen numerous comments re good and bad signal strengths for no apparent reason. Simon.

  • @buzzindrones
    @buzzindrones 2 роки тому +6

    hi thanks for sharing your thoughts on this matter , I had the mini 2 first and could send it miles before it lost connection .
    Since buying the mini 3 with the rc remote when it came out I have been very let down with the range it can fly before it loses connection. Im at a point now where I'm thinking of selling it and going back to the mini 2 ,although I do like some of the features of the 3 and feel the camera and picture quality is much better.
    I am going to try your advice to see if makes a difference in range perhaps this could be the last chance for my little mini 3.
    Regards, Buzz.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому +2

      Well I hope it works for you ! Please feed back what you discover with this method, I do believe the antenna placement on the drone is the issue rather than the RC controller but please do let me know

    • @gogo171717
      @gogo171717 Рік тому

      May we have a feedback please ?

  • @bernardmccabe463
    @bernardmccabe463 2 роки тому +8

    Definitely could play a part in some cases, however I've seen many people with equally poor signal on the RC-N1. I do most flying in a rural area so next time will manually select 2.4 and see how it goes. I still find it strange my Mini 1 continues to outperform my Mini 3 when it comes to range here.

    • @teethtrainsandcameras2668
      @teethtrainsandcameras2668 2 роки тому

      I have the Mini 1, my max range is around 300m, what distances are you seeing?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому +1

      Check out my video on extending range with the mini, picking the right manual channel and a range extender will really help

  • @AndreasHvilhoej
    @AndreasHvilhoej 10 місяців тому

    As a beginner is this Anything i should worry about
    Or a reason to get mini 4 pro instead?

  • @georgealexander2955
    @georgealexander2955 2 роки тому +2

    Makes a lot of sense! Thank you for taking the time out to help us drone people out. Your truly appreciate and your video's.

  • @ajukrishnan
    @ajukrishnan Рік тому

    Thanks for running these tests. I experienced the same problem with mini3 pro and DJI RC.
    My mavic 2 pro had the same problem of stock controller has great range, but smart controllers range was pathetic. Could the frequency band be the problem there too?

  • @MarkHivosk
    @MarkHivosk 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for talking about the manual channel selection I needed this to fix my issue

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  7 місяців тому

      You’re welcome

    • @MarkHivosk
      @MarkHivosk 7 місяців тому +1

      @@GAVINHR Thanks for the response! If you want extra content ideas, especially regarding your extensive range extending legacy, you can try making a large parabolic mirror bowl with aluminum foil, and then try it with a proper satellite dish. Align the controller antenna in the focus of the mirror dish and in theory it would work. It's more based on real science than the yagis, reason you don't see it is it would be only useful for extremely high altitude 0 Distance flights, where the parabolic mirror is sat on the ground permanently facing up. if you need help getting a form 107 waiver to get above 500m restriction then I can help you since that is what I do. I have 4999m unlocked

    • @User-jr7vf
      @User-jr7vf 6 місяців тому

      @@MarkHivosk did you solve your problem by manually changing the frequency?

  • @Mike0193Azul
    @Mike0193Azul 2 роки тому +3

    Great explanation! That explains why the recent firmware update for this issue was only for the controller. Whereas it used to be a theory that the drone had bad antennas. Unfortunately, while almost everyone has stated they've gotten better connection, many people say it did not improve by too much. This remains a sporadic issue. Some people have shown fantastic ranges on their mini 3, even surpassing the mini 2 signal and range. Whilst others stay showing abysmal range and signal dropouts on the mini 3.
    The rc-n1 just seems like a better controller. Indeed upon opening up my mini 3 the controller felt so flimsy compared to it. Another annoying widespread issue (also affecting my drone) is overheating. My mini 2 never overheated. Just today I did a test keeping the drones on and idle and the mini 2 did not overheat even after an hour while the mini 3 overheated in 7-9 minutes on multiple tests.
    Have you solved/figured out your signal issues since? And have you ever had overheating issues?
    Great video!

    • @nightsoulls2615
      @nightsoulls2615 2 роки тому +2

      it is said that the dji mini 3 pro doesn’t have internal fans to make it lighter and is designed so that when in flight that the back propellers pushes air into the back vents to keep it cool, so if left on the ground the dji mini 3 overheats and shuts off while the dji mini 2 doesn’t overheat because it has internal fans

    • @keithstewart7514
      @keithstewart7514 2 роки тому +1

      The mini2 has a fan built in. My mini 3 gets warm in less than ten minutes also. I use a air mattress inflatable device and prior to that a lap top fan table stand helped also...

  • @wootpile
    @wootpile 2 роки тому +4

    In Scandinavia... I´m getting more stable and longer range with the RC-N1compared to the new RC that comes with the Mini 3. Had both and did several tests at exactly same places, similar climate, same time of day, etc. RC-N1 has no problem letting you fly out of site (not recommended of course but for sake of test) behind forest, standing behind building, around and behind island on sea, etc. Also seeing more stable connection with RC-N1 when flying in densely populated areas. Glad I sold the Mini 3 with RC and kept the RC-N1 kit (yes did the test switching units back and forth.. same result.) On a side note.. also preferring the stick controls on the RC-N1 which feel a bit more damped and easier to make micro adjustments with.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому

      I also prefer the RC N1 controller myself

    • @theurbanartist775
      @theurbanartist775 Рік тому

      @@GAVINHR me too, I like being able to take a call while flying. Instead of holding the controller and having to pick up a phone also.

  • @gogo171717
    @gogo171717 Рік тому +1

    Hello, there is still the range problem with the mini 3 pro and rc controllee or it's done ? Thanks

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  Рік тому +1

      I think it seems to be OK now

  • @pollyaloy
    @pollyaloy 2 роки тому +2

    I’ve had my mini 3 pro with rc for a week now and I live in a built up area like you in the uk, except I have a 100meter row of very tall trees in front of my house .
    I’ve had no signal drops so far flying out to around 400 meters . I haven’t gone further yet due to some angry seagulls . Looking at my flight data in the Airdata app it shows no signal drops whatsoever and I am using the remote with built in screen .
    Airdata tells me my mini 3 maintained %100 signal during my 35 minute flight (extended batteries) . So far so good 😀

    • @djidroneadventures4059
      @djidroneadventures4059 2 роки тому

      Hi where did you get the extended batteries, and do they work ok in the uk

    • @pollyaloy
      @pollyaloy 2 роки тому

      @@djidroneadventures4059 forgot to mention. Yes the batterie plus works fine in the uk , I’ve had no problems

    • @djidroneadventures4059
      @djidroneadventures4059 2 роки тому +1

      @@pollyaloy That's amazing. Where did you manage to get the + battery from

    • @pollyaloy
      @pollyaloy 2 роки тому

      @@djidroneadventures4059 someone is selling them on eBay uk . He must of imported them, he sells single batteries and the full fly more kit plus .

  • @myphotos
    @myphotos Рік тому +1

    Can you manually change to 5.8ghz on the dji rc? Or are you stuck with whatever it chooses?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  Рік тому +1

      Yep you can change manually :)

  • @captcaveman926
    @captcaveman926 Рік тому

    Dude thanks for your vlog just got a mini 3 pro and I'm excited about learning all the ins and outs

  • @1Esteband
    @1Esteband Рік тому

    Thank you. In your experience, do you see the M3P as having the same, less or more signla range than the mini 2 ?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  Рік тому +1

      Pretty much the same, I’ve never found a difference in my testing

  • @sibujacob977
    @sibujacob977 Рік тому

    Hi there ....is there any update on this issue from DJI forum ....have they made the Smart rc remote with 5.x ghz as default

  • @tminusoftexas3224
    @tminusoftexas3224 2 роки тому

    Thank you brother. How are you liking the mini 3.

  • @mannygomez3981
    @mannygomez3981 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent video and demo of the impact of using 2.4 and 5.8 in rural vs Wifi congested areas. Thanks for sharing!

  • @LAP1050
    @LAP1050 2 роки тому +4

    Very interesting Gavin👍. So looks like your testing shows in urban congested areas where the 2.4ghz frequency is being shared/used by all kinds of peripheral equipment, home WiFis, cell phones, computers, and so on, are affecting the mini’s best signal. Switching to the less popular 5.8ghz frequency gives the mini a more reliable signal… BRILLIANT observation. I will test the theory myself here in Miami, Florida, 🇺🇸.
    Just earned a new subscriber.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому

      That’s exactly the case ! Thank you for the sub :)

    • @theurbanartist775
      @theurbanartist775 Рік тому

      What happened? Did it make any difference?

    • @insayno
      @insayno Рік тому

      Thank you for this comment. This really helped me understand it better.

  • @andyairshots
    @andyairshots 2 роки тому

    Thank you, mine will delivered tomorrow so will look into this. First explanation I've seen so gives me hope.

  • @terryneilbooth
    @terryneilbooth 2 роки тому +2

    It does make sense Gavin cant understand how some users are not getting such problems with the RC version. So it maybe its only affecting some RC’s? Let’s hope DJI sort this soon as it doesn’t bond confidence or safety knowing there is inconsistencies with signal strength. Great inspiring channel 👍

  • @FlyingAce1016
    @FlyingAce1016 2 роки тому +1

    has this been fixed? I hear the RC is bad because it does not have antennas so it might be good to get either the old one with the phone controller or the PRO RC

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 2 роки тому

      N1 will always be better due to external aenntenas.

  • @lesnorris
    @lesnorris 2 роки тому +1

    Lost a mini 1 recently, so have a 2 on the way better signal ect, good advice on the frequencies. Stayed away from the 3 as a pole showed 48% having problems, could be down to the different chips due to shortage, many are using chips they wish they didnt have to.

  • @DoctorBlankenstein
    @DoctorBlankenstein 18 днів тому

    I'm gonna try this right away... Good video.

  • @LUMADCEBUANO
    @LUMADCEBUANO 2 роки тому +2

    this is true, this is what i discovered also... so what i did everytime i take off i always check the transmission

  • @noonespecific9463
    @noonespecific9463 Рік тому

    I live in the mountains, if available , if you can fly from a spot where you can stay above the drone, the mini drones, all of the ones I owned seemed to keep their signal better and this also can make maintaining L.O.S. easier. There are many places in mountainous areas where this situation is possible. A really good way to fly low and close to stuff as well. Hope this helps if anyone sees it, drones are a blast, so much fun, an excellent way to waste time if we’re talking hobby. I’m strictly hobbyist.

  • @rugge7svensson597
    @rugge7svensson597 2 роки тому +1

    Thank You so much GAVINHR for your great attention of the problem!!!
    Like many others I am waiting to order this Mini 3 Pro untill a Firmware Update has solved its Range Issue....
    The Frequence Shifting Function is for sure the most complicated basic function which would need to be secured for DJI ! Highest probability to fail if any major included sw or hw is updated!
    I can read out that their antenna specs are changed from Air 2S to Mini 3 Pro!
    2T4R in Air 2S means two transmitters and four receivers.
    1T2R in Mini 3 Pro means ONE transmitter and two receivers, which could possible be a step to save cost or weight in the Mini 3 Pro??
    It looks like the Air 2S Antenna Spec in general manage 300mbps "Fast Upload and fast download" while the Mini 3 Pro Spec manage 150mbps which is on the edge of its MAX VIDEO Bitrate Spec!
    => While the Air 2S and the Mini 3 Pro has equal rated Video Bitrate Spec, it looks like the Air 2S Antenna has by far a larger Bitrate Marginal left to handle the Drone it self and Frequency Shifting in parallell to the Video Transfer!
    The drone will pass over areas where WiFi Traffic differs, so a shift in WiFi Frequence should in most cases be initiated by the drone!
    With the new less efficient Mini 3 Pro antenna which limits the upload capacity there must be a function which handle a priority between Drone Handling, Frequency Shifting and Video Transfer?
    That function must be by far more important in the Mini 3 Pro than in the Air 2S!
    => If there was a way to limit the Video Bitrate it self ? And when weak signal also testing influence of limit the handling (stop the drone..) we could maybe figure out if the signal improves? Meaning the Frequency Shifting worked due to less other Data Transfer from the Mini 3 Pro Drone?

  • @dronezoneessex5551
    @dronezoneessex5551 2 роки тому +2

    Hi Gavin just found a very annoying 'feature' on the Mini 3 pro relating to signals you might like to review. I live in an authorisation zone so applied for an unlock which I did make work by using my mobile phone as a hotspot. However having turned the hotspot on and connected the controller too it, when you go to take off the message 'Turning Wifi and Bluetooth connectivity off to improve connectivity, If you need wifi turn it back on manually'. You still need wifi to finish the authorisation process so you then have to turn it back on again. Unless I'm being a numpty and doing something wrong.

    • @GooseFlerken
      @GooseFlerken 2 роки тому

      This is one of the feature that annoyed me too!

  • @1teddy1979
    @1teddy1979 2 роки тому +2

    Range is too good on mine i took it out 5.6kms and had no transmission issues but rookie mistake i forgot to go out into the wind and with the wind on the way back. Anyway it landed in a farmers field and even though the battery was dead i was able to find it via gps

  • @jaredsimon1723
    @jaredsimon1723 2 роки тому

    Were they running the same fly app version?

  • @Steve53
    @Steve53 2 роки тому +2

    Hi Gavin I do a lot of flights that involve going low round ships of different sizes this is where I get poor signal strength, do you think if I change the frequency to 5.8 it might give me a better signal, cheers Gavin.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  Рік тому +1

      Hi Steve just saw this! Yes 5.8 may help !

    • @Steve53
      @Steve53 Рік тому

      @@garywolfe4504 it's part of the adventure 😁👍

    • @Steve53
      @Steve53 Рік тому +1

      Cheers Gavin thanks for the reply I really appreciate it, your channel is very busy so I know you have a lot to do, keep up the great work 👍👍.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  Рік тому

      @@Steve53 thank you very much! I always try reply when I can but sometimes I simply don’t get notified of comments so I miss them :) thank you for watching!

  • @Pizzafromthepresident
    @Pizzafromthepresident 9 місяців тому

    ive had some strange signal dives under BIG bridges over the river i love to fly over. This explains all my theories! thank you cheers!
    oh hey could you make a video with the RC PRO controller and the mini 3 pro for this issue?

  • @jerryhubbard4461
    @jerryhubbard4461 Рік тому

    I am doing intensive research at this moment and about ready to pull the trigger for a Dji Mine 3 pro. My question, who do you trust to buy from. I am seeing some reviews I don't like on Amazon that talk about sorry vendors not responding to problems. Who should I purchase my drone from? Thanks for an answer. Jerry

  • @nicholashalvis5376
    @nicholashalvis5376 2 роки тому

    OK so if I put it in 5.8 should that be all I need to do? Or do I need to put it in manual then or just leave it in automatic? Also, every time I start the drone do I need to put it back in to 5.8? Does it automatically going to 2.4 every time it’s restarted Thanks.

  • @edynoSK
    @edynoSK 2 роки тому +7

    Hi Gavin,
    I noticed long ago that when you turn the RC by 90 degree (but still towards the drone), I get a stronger signal. This would support the mismatch of the antennas in the arms "Horizontal" Versus "Vertical" polarization in RC .. :(

    • @geodrone7643
      @geodrone7643 Рік тому

      Also if you rotate it with screen down, you get over 10% more signal.

  • @3aprods
    @3aprods 2 роки тому +11

    Very interesting and super helpful video! I got this drone as my first drone ever a couple of weeks ago and having a LOT of fun with it. But indeed, signal drops when the drone is still in quite close distance did happen to me yesterday. I went to a rural area but where there are some overhead power lines installed. Obviously I'm well aware these would have an impact and I tried to stay relatively far from them. But I was wondering what is usually the range of interference of those lines on the RC transmission signal. Any ballpark idea? In any case, I will try your manual switching tip on my next flight....which should be in an hour or so. :)

  • @ThierryAZIMUTTT
    @ThierryAZIMUTTT 2 роки тому

    merci pour ce topo instructif. peut on changer manuellement de fréquence en plein vol? Merci

  • @gimbalair
    @gimbalair 2 роки тому +2

    That sir is one of your best videos and if as you suggest the auto switching is not working well (clear channel assessment) then dji need to sort it, its a function of good FHSS

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому

      Thank you very much :)

  • @raykeogh1972
    @raykeogh1972 2 роки тому +1

    Great video thanks. A month ago I was in Liverpool city centre and I lose control when I can still read most OT the writing on the drone. Definitely I can read my drone reg number with squinted eyes. Now July the 12th and many updates later on the Isle of Mull clearly no buildings around beautiful sea and scenery. No signal yet again it gives no faith in the mini3. I have been flying DJI drones for 15 years and NEVER have I had this. I have the mini2 with me no problems I have the Mavic pro 2 no problem but the mini 3 I seriously want to throw it a way it has no use or ornament. Now I am using the Tripltek8 not sure if that’s a problem with the mini3 but with the mini2 it’s brilliant.. DRIVES me nut. Thanks for sharing. Ray K. UK. YNWA.

    • @Ukcanary
      @Ukcanary 2 роки тому

      I had the same issue and lost a Mini 3 Pro, crashed after losing signal and hovered for few minutes. I love the mini 3 pro but it's the first time had issues in years with DJI...Very annoying indeed.

  • @Cassius..
    @Cassius.. Рік тому

    Cracking mate thank you very much, I had issues it an open field lost RC signal.
    Much appreciated 👍🏻

  • @adrianstensrud
    @adrianstensrud 2 роки тому

    Great tip! So glad to see this was not a video recommending people to illegally mod the drone/controller to use FCC mode, but rather how to adjust to the right condition. FCC mode is, anyways not needed, as the added value really only comes after breaking the mandatory VLOS anyways.

  • @riffraff9070
    @riffraff9070 2 роки тому

    Thank you I'm a DJI drone noobie so this was perfect explanation

  • @GordonBurnsVideo
    @GordonBurnsVideo 2 роки тому +2

    good work Gavin - thanks for sharing this and let's hope the guys at DJI see this too and do something with it.

  • @mrngreenthumb
    @mrngreenthumb Рік тому

    fact good observation, not only the environment but the time . if you are in town at 6pm expect lots of interference and swap over to 5.8 but at night the 2.4 wont be half as bad!

  • @denisgagnon6604
    @denisgagnon6604 2 роки тому +1

    Regardless what configuration my mini 2 will go about 1.5 kms further before I start losing signal. My friend also has the same problem. Informative video but I think the problem runs deeper than this. Hopefully they can fix it with a firmware update but for now I'm taking my mini 2 on my vacation.

  • @NickHarbornePhotography
    @NickHarbornePhotography 2 роки тому +1

    As ever you give me something i had never even thought about to check and consider if i get signal problems ( i haven't yet ) but cheers Gav. Always thinking outside the box

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому

      Thanks Nick!

    • @freeforester1717
      @freeforester1717 2 роки тому +1

      Yes but he’s thinking outside the box about what’s going on inside the box, and for that we are grateful 👍🏻 New owner living in a sparsely populated rural area of the highlands, and getting line of sight of around 1,5km, beyond which I would lose sight of the bird anyway, so basically happy. I did see that several are fitting external antennae per Dutch Mark Mark’s video, but it’s not clear to me that this would be a great advantage, the Netherlands being the most densely populated country in Europe, with lots of interference sources. Basically I’m happy with the range, given the size, and looking forward to installing the waypoint upgrade, which will make the wee drone a powerful tool for my purposes. Thanks again!

  • @SpikeHammond
    @SpikeHammond 2 роки тому +3

    Makes perfect sense to me Gavin. Unfortunately the newer member to the hobby have no idea and just put it down to the drone and software :) cheers pal keep flying!

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому +2

      Exactly, the older drones such as the air and the Mavic mini really took a lot more finesse, people became too reliant on out the box and expecting it to work perfect. Thanks for watching

  • @jameslovell8682
    @jameslovell8682 2 роки тому

    Great detective work and overall great video. Great too that you don't waste time but get straight to the point every time. Thanks.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому

      I used to waste a lot of time with rubbish, thankfully a trait I'm getting out of haha! It's halved my video length ☺️

  • @ColRose
    @ColRose 2 місяці тому

    Nice video Gavin. I'm gonna try that next time.

  • @verdi6092
    @verdi6092 2 роки тому +2

    This makes me want to get the mini 3 now

  • @notmenotme614
    @notmenotme614 2 роки тому +2

    I’ve experienced the exact same issue… the range would vary depending on the location. In one urban environment, the video signal dropped out after just a few hundred metres away. I definitely think there was interference from another source on the same frequency. While in a large park with open space, my Mini 3 happily went for miles.

    • @thomashardy9994
      @thomashardy9994 2 роки тому +1

      That’s fantastic. Did you manually select the frequency?

    • @CastorTroy666
      @CastorTroy666 2 роки тому +1

      same, I can fly the mini3 14 kilometers in the countryside, but only 1-2 in the city

    • @theurbanartist775
      @theurbanartist775 Рік тому

      @@CastorTroy666 that has to be flying out and back. I can’t be 14 one way 🤔

  • @colt45d
    @colt45d 2 роки тому

    Good info definitely going to try this next time I fly at the ranch because the mini 3 Pro is garbage for signal compared to my old Mavic pro. Because as it sets now my mini three is worthless in what I need it for.

  • @Ghostpumpkin617
    @Ghostpumpkin617 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much! Very helpful!

  • @User-jr7vf
    @User-jr7vf 6 місяців тому

    I would like to know how far one can fly with 2.4 vs 5.8, of course assuming no significant interference from other devices using the same frequency (which I think is almost an impossible mission in an urban environment).

  • @dwhite9761
    @dwhite9761 2 роки тому +1

    All sounds perfectly logical. Cheers for that , Gavin.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому

      Taking in everything into account and what I noticed it certainly seems to make the most sense

  • @geodrone7643
    @geodrone7643 Рік тому +1

    When you pass over houses, the 2.4 Ghz routers can also detect the band of drone and is switching also the channel...As all new routers and mesh units does this, will start a hopping between channels as long as you interfere with that network.
    Now, 5.8 Ghz is more clear as the signal is not penetrating the walls at houses so easy...but will be pretty sensitive to any obstacles, so even a tree will kill your range.
    To set manual channel is pretty dangerous, as you can enter in a range of a network that you cannot predict at take off and you will be jammed.
    Act with caution.

  • @SemostevMedia
    @SemostevMedia 2 роки тому

    I’ve been losing rc signal on my air2s for a while now I don’t know what the problem is.
    I’m some locations I have a strong rc signal while in some locations I turns red and my drone returns to home

  • @fightthebully3331
    @fightthebully3331 2 місяці тому

    Have this issue been resolved? Im thinking of buying this drone. Thanks

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      No, but if you fix on 5.8 you should be fine

  • @Psi117
    @Psi117 Рік тому

    With latest fw. RC has still less range than N1 (2500 vs 3000m) on 2,4 GHz. About the 2,4 GHZ it is not "design" for longer ranges but it is about that attenuation increase with frequency ( in GHz range relation became quadratic).This is the reason why in radio comm (LTE/5G) you input 100W in antenna and in a few hundred meters you can pickup just few nano Watts. So in 5.8 GHz attenuation is bigger than in 2.4 GHz. For the long range one must always prioritize 2.4 GHz. 5.8 has the advantage that it can allow much larger bandwith channels, which in that case is not so important (4k recording is done on drone, and for video stream is enough bw on 2.4 GHz). The 5.8 band is supposed to be less bussy than 2.4 due to the fact that there sloud be less devices on this frequency.This is why producers recomends using 5.8 in city, but you must always make tests before the fly, because no one cand predict electromagnetic map on every place.

  • @jimthorleydronefootage
    @jimthorleydronefootage 2 роки тому +1

    Could very well be the answer gavin good video hopefully your viewers can come back with their findings to you so we can see if the controller is indeed making poor choices on frequency

  • @HenPapirman
    @HenPapirman 2 роки тому +4

    Some countries don't allow 5.8, thus are "stuck" only at 2.4, because it's locked that way. Still some have problems, while others don't. No one really knows why this thing happens until DJI will acknowledge it has a problem and do something about it.

  • @bestfield372
    @bestfield372 2 роки тому

    Hi, in-flight data centre on the DJI fly app I got two different names 1 drone. How do get rid of 1 of the names? Can u help, please.

  • @billmeador215
    @billmeador215 Рік тому

    Great info, but how do I get the RC controller to select FCC mode here in the USA.............RC always goes to CE where RC-N1 picks FCC every time...............bummer!

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  Рік тому

      Hi bil! My apologies if I didn’t make that clear, the RC selects the transmission strength based on location therefore in the US it should already be in FCC mode

    • @billmeador215
      @billmeador215 Рік тому

      That's the rub, it does not select FCC mode, picks the right frequency for rural vs urban, but stays in CE mode always according to the Transmission graph (verified I have the right firmware updates for the aircraft and controller, and right software update for the Fly app).........DJI has no response as yet, started with agent, upgraded to supervisor, and now awaiting reply from engineering staff. Got a dud me thinks!

  • @marvfear1385
    @marvfear1385 2 роки тому +1

    Nicely explained. I will be checking the setting you mentioned .. should I find a poor signal .. however to date it seems to be meeting my nice expectations Merv Aussie in Thailand

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому

      Works fine for me also, I have no complaints and I'm glad you don't also 😊

  • @Ukcanary
    @Ukcanary 2 роки тому

    Great video, thanks for sharing. I also noticed the lose of signal at very short range after executing panoramas o even just taking a photo. First time I had these issues, it happened with both remotes and always in city area. Hope DJI can fix this or I will go back to my Air2s...

  • @droningwesternaustralia
    @droningwesternaustralia 2 роки тому +1

    Very interesting. Just got my mini 2, will be interesting to see what happens.
    Question
    If you select manual, set your frequency then take off what happens if you then change your frequency mid flight without first landing

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому +1

      I only landed to restart the test, yes of course you can change frequency in flight no problem

  • @Stefan_Boerjesson
    @Stefan_Boerjesson Рік тому

    Testing whatever stuff it is it's necessary to have control of the environment. You made important observations but the average guy complaining surely didn't. It's a surprise that an ordinary village affects the connection that much, in that way. Thanks for pointing it out!

  • @marc72-diamondproduction97
    @marc72-diamondproduction97 2 роки тому +1

    so 5.8 is for City and 2.4 for Land & Beach) so I manually choose the best choice myself before the flight?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому +2

      Basically yes, unless the drone is doing what it is supposed to in flight and keeping on the correct frequency

    • @marc72-diamondproduction97
      @marc72-diamondproduction97 2 роки тому

      @@GAVINHR thank oh 👌🏼

  • @davidharle952
    @davidharle952 2 роки тому +1

    Great information Gavin, I've ordered a new Mini 3 Pro but have opted for the standard controller. I'm not too happy with the new one going off the various problems that have been reported.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому +1

      Hi David! That's great news! I think you made the right decision, when does it turn up? Really excited for you

    • @davidharle952
      @davidharle952 2 роки тому

      @@GAVINHR It was supposed to be here Thursday but it turned up earlier . So have just finished updating it. One thing I noticed though is that it got quite warm as I updated the firmware. But sent it out over the front and it was cool when it got back. Couldn't give it a good try as the Shell ducks on the pond at the front have chicks on the water and decided to have a go. Anyway I'm getting Coverdrone insurance from your link tomorrow. £65 .09p but that's without ground items.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому +1

      Brilliant news! Yes it does get a bit warm during the update process's but at least it's now done, the advantage is because you can buy the drone on its own means you can do exactly that and just insure the drone only! Thanks for using the link I really appreciate it

  • @gimpman1357
    @gimpman1357 2 роки тому +1

    This is a very good ( ie. plausible ) explanation.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому

      Thank you 😊

  • @b16bkostas
    @b16bkostas 2 роки тому

    so you mean that rc-n1 (your phone app) choose in the same senario 5.8GHz?

  • @proflex310
    @proflex310 2 роки тому +19

    There is a strong theory that the removal of the vertical antennas at the feet is the cause of the weaker signal. The drone is no longer sensitive to vertically polarized signal...

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 2 роки тому

      Yes. It makes a huge difference

    • @barryp8145
      @barryp8145 2 роки тому +3

      But then others don’t have that problem. Also, you are more likely to hear about an issue than a non-issue for people.

    • @sleepingbearffg5008
      @sleepingbearffg5008 2 роки тому +1

      i think gets to hot during firware upgrade. made video

    • @barryp8145
      @barryp8145 2 роки тому

      @@sleepingbearffg5008 mine has been fine with updates and range so far, thank goodness.

    • @sleepingbearffg5008
      @sleepingbearffg5008 2 роки тому +1

      @@barryp8145 I just believe better safe than sorry. Love the bird myself.. been long time since owened a camera bird.. always few FPV race drones. Allot of fun but repairs take time and money. Not as much as this bird! Lol

  • @jermainereid2975
    @jermainereid2975 2 роки тому

    I've got the DJI RC had flights in rural areas that have ranged 1200m and rural to over an urban area at 1300m, never really noticed any issues with signal drop until i get to the 1000m range.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому

      No for most the range is plenty, I personally feel it’s fine also but others were having problems so I looked into the cause

  • @rangerrick8220
    @rangerrick8220 2 роки тому

    New to drones - question - can you manually pick what frequency you want to use on the DJI RC?

  • @wabbadabbadoodaa2746
    @wabbadabbadoodaa2746 2 роки тому

    Hey Gavs, in your vid, the horizontal line is exactly on the 1km (4km?) mark.
    On mine, using the air 2s, the horizontal line is just below the 1km line. I am forced into ce as i live in Africa, but u sound like u also a ce resident. What is this line difference about?

  • @johnnyfearlesszrx
    @johnnyfearlesszrx 2 роки тому

    Hi, could you tell me what the minus is for at the top right of the map icon at 5:10 please.
    When I press the -, it changes to a + but it doesn't seem to seem do anything, I thought it would be to zoom the map in or out. Thanks.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому

      It’s to minimise the map :)

    • @johnnyfearlesszrx
      @johnnyfearlesszrx 2 роки тому

      @@GAVINHR Thanks for the quick reply but the icon at the bottom left minimises the map on mine. The top right just toggles the plus/minus symbol. No biggie, I just can't make out what it's changing, or if it's for a future use.

  • @VICVideopIC
    @VICVideopIC 2 роки тому

    Very interesting.
    I am having an incredibly bad transmission with the RC controller.
    I will try switching the frequencies and see what happens

    • @PRO-3-X
      @PRO-3-X 2 роки тому +3

      Same same - Long drawn out battle with DJI on this one and according to a DJI insider,,,, it's a known hardware issue for many but not all of the drones and seems to happen to those that bought and paid for their drones rather than those who have been given them from DJI signing NDA waivers (not to talk). Those are not my words,,, they are from other UA-camrs.... thousands upon thousands mini 3's are being sent back, just watch that vid of mine and read a few of the comments to glean that. Good luck with yours though, i hope you get it sorted..... personally, I'm done with "DJI and their terrible support"

    • @markokoerblervideoproduction
      @markokoerblervideoproduction 2 роки тому

      @@PRO-3-X Fak me if this is true I just purchased like 6 batteries...Damn...

  • @ploppymacplop
    @ploppymacplop 2 роки тому +2

    Unless you put a Spectrum Analyser on the 2 different carrier freq's where you are "testing it" it will always be just a case of perhaps/maybe/if......

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому

      Well you can use a spectrum analyser absolutely but the proof is 5.8 worked better than 2.4 as shown, ideally the drone should be doing the hard work but I suspect it's not

  • @JulianGarrett
    @JulianGarrett 2 роки тому

    Upon manually choosing 5.8GHz frequency, how do we know which is the better channel to choose?

  • @davidpwongphoto
    @davidpwongphoto 2 роки тому

    Spot on. Does this mean when you set to 5.8ghz, with O3 it will change channel automatically?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому

      Yes it will change channel within that frequency yes

  • @dgibbsfl
    @dgibbsfl Рік тому

    Hey...
    I watched this video a year later. I was wondering two things:
    1. Is the Dual band setting designed to automatically select between 2.4 and 5.8 depending on the flying (transmission) environment?
    2. Has it been fixed yet?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  Рік тому

      Yes to the first question, and No to the second, If you watch my range extender test video (recent) you can see it still randomly switches to the wrong frequency resulting in a poorer signal

    • @dgibbsfl
      @dgibbsfl Рік тому

      @@GAVINHR
      I have one more question on another topic that you may be able to shed some light on. As you may have guessed the M3P and the DJI RC is new gear for me. I had been flying the original Mavic Pro for years. I am having an issue with the touch screen responsiveness on the DJI RC. I find myself having to fiddle and tap and fiddle some more to get the command to respond. What is there to know about this that may be helpful to me?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  Рік тому

      @dgibbsfl other creators won’t tell you this but I’ve mentioned it a few times on my channel, sadly that is a fair reflection of the controller, it’s severely underpowered and often commands are slow I’m afraid

    • @dgibbsfl
      @dgibbsfl Рік тому

      That amazes me that A) DJI got everything else right but missed the most important feature on a touch screen controller and B) nobody is talking about it.
      I was hoping to hear about some adjustment on the controller or to the skin surface on my fingers. Gosh forbid there is ever a situation you have to have an efficient/quick response off the screen command and thank goodness for the RTH/Pause hard toggle button.

  • @paulcollings5424
    @paulcollings5424 Рік тому

    Hi Darren , subscribd and liked. Has this issue now been addressed by DJI in any update , or are we assuming it has ? Love your reviews , keep them coming.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  Рік тому

      Hi Paul, You mean Gavin? haha as it stands yes the RC controller seems to be a bit better at picking the correct frequency yes :)

    • @paulcollings5424
      @paulcollings5424 Рік тому +1

      @@GAVINHR Sorry Gavin - whoops. Thanks for quick reply. I've got my first flight tomorrow with my MP3 and as a first time pilot , am in Southampton but will flying on the outskirts and rural. Will see how the baby performs , recording video and screen shot video. Got the Fly More so should have time to experiment and learn. A liitle nervous obviously but have watched many of your productions on YT. Cheers , Paul.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  Рік тому +1

      @@paulcollings5424 best advice I can give you is take it steady and remember if you ever think you may get into trouble just let go of the sticks and it will come to a stop, failing that if you ever get nervous the best thing is just push the stick upward if you fly any higher than 50m you’re going to be out of the way of most things! Let me know how it goes !

  • @MrksKr
    @MrksKr 2 роки тому +2

    Makes perfect sense!

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому +1

      I talk sense a couple of times a year! 😁

    • @MrksKr
      @MrksKr 2 роки тому

      @@GAVINHR every time tbh 💪

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому

      Thank you 🙏🏻

  • @veryberry-
    @veryberry- Рік тому

    Other youtube videos said that the mini 3 pro has poor signal because it doesn't have the little vertical antenna feet on the tips like the previous mini 2 or the new mini 3. Is that accurate according to you?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  Рік тому +1

      I agree that’s a large factor 👍

  • @BNatoAk
    @BNatoAk Рік тому

    I'm a lucky one! I fly mine 3 miles away over a Walmart with constant connection 👊💪

    • @Zpyk17
      @Zpyk17 Рік тому

      Nah bro now im jealous :( My doesn't even get close to that.

  • @MichasWelt
    @MichasWelt 2 роки тому

    I see the following problem: When you lost signal because of interferences, you will not be able to switch manually. When your drone crashs or have a flyawy because of manually settings, will this affect warranty? Maybe dji will say, why do you have changed it to manual, with Auto detect the crash wouldnt be happen. So in my opionion its a good video for DJI to develop a fix but manually switching could be dangerous.

    • @koolaidpapi7674
      @koolaidpapi7674 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah DJI never takes responsibility for the crashes even if you’re 2 feet away from the drone and loose signal

  • @jaybomb5022
    @jaybomb5022 2 роки тому

    You sir, earned a sub, definitely helped me out with my RC!

  • @WiljanWiljan
    @WiljanWiljan 2 роки тому +11

    Thanks for the video and great explanation. But even if you are correct, why is the mini 3 still performing worse then eg mini or mini2? Also is ocusync 3 vs ocusync 2 not causing the problem? And the antenna design in the legs of the mini 3? And we are very far away from the DJI advertized range...even if we reduce this by 50%, most users will not even reach 5 or 10% from the published range. So DJI has to step up now and announce first of all there is an issue and second how and when they plan to fix this!

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому +1

      Hi there my friend, well if you remember my test I found no difference between the mini 2 and mini 3 , I do appreciate others are saying there is a difference but I didn't see one, ocusync 3 is basically just 2 extra antennas and a 1080p feed to the controller / phone that's all. I mean - it's all still poor don't get me wrong, the autel signal is bulletproof !

    • @8dcphoto
      @8dcphoto 2 роки тому

      I've seen zero difference between mini 2 and 3 re range including swapping between RCN1 and DJI RC

    • @MichasWelt
      @MichasWelt 2 роки тому

      @@GAVINHR But does that mean, Mini 2 has the same switching problem?

    • @wootpile
      @wootpile 2 роки тому +3

      My Mini 3 with RC-N1 still has substantially shorter range than my Mini 2. If there is a design flaw in the Mini 3 itself which makes reaching advertised distances in optimal conditions impossible... hello class action lawsuit.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому +1

      @@MichasWelt I personally have not experienced any switching issues with the mini 2 no, or using the RC-N1

  • @JaraFPV
    @JaraFPV 2 роки тому +1

    Was expecting something more technical like frequency analyzer, check if it's giving the correct power output, correct polarization which so far I know, I watched somewhere that, MIni 3 Pro (obviously) is in horizontal polarization unlike the Mini 2
    RCN1/DJI RC is vertical polarization

  • @noonespecific9463
    @noonespecific9463 Рік тому

    If you want range, slow your forward speed, this is for mini 2 and beyond. Won’t help mini 1. The automatic switching
    Seems to need some extra time to find a good channel. Sometimes stopping for a few seconds will greatly improve your signal. When your really stretched out , don’t turn around to come back, reverse to a distance where you have a stronger signal. Turning the drone with a weak signal will cause signal loss for sure. If you trust the tech, this stuff becomes less important. If you set a DJI drone up properly before you fly , it’s going to return to home if it’s able. I have had 4 DJI drones and only my spark experienced technical issues that made operating it difficult, it did not loose control completely, it was impossible to get it to do anything at all smoothly. I crashed it into a tree purposely to recover it. Only suffered broken prop.

  • @kamikazekaos
    @kamikazekaos 2 роки тому +1

    Very clever man , too smart 👏 did you do a video showing a good range based on what you said?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому +1

      Flying beyond 500m here in the UK is generally frowned upon ... I can assure you even though I have no video the transmission distance was just fine :)

    • @kamikazekaos
      @kamikazekaos 2 роки тому +1

      @@GAVINHR yeah I get yar, I understand, maybe it's was your friend who did test this you could say hehe

    • @bussty3247
      @bussty3247 2 роки тому +1

      @@GAVINHR maybe a friend on a bike instead of flying?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 роки тому +1

      Ahhh ! Well here in the UK that's not technically possible, my friend tech drone media did a video using a spotter but here they stipulate the spotter had to be next to you 🤷🏻 kinda pointless then I guess

    • @bussty3247
      @bussty3247 2 роки тому +1

      @@GAVINHR Ohh sorry I meant you turn your drone on then give it to a person on a bike or in a car (holding it out the window) and then without flying it get them to drive off (or you could drive off with the controller I guess) and see how far you can maintain connection. If driving/biking off with the controller you would need a USB powered fan on the drone to stop overheating though. Would get around the regulations. 🤔