Ghost of Yōtei - History and Speculation
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- We finally have our first trailer for the upcoming sequel to Ghost of Tsushima. This time we are traveling to Hokkaido in the newly announced "Ghost of Yōtei"! In this video we dive into some of the history of the setting and get into a bit of speculation.
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I think it’s smart to keep the “Ghost Of” title. That way Sucker Punch can tell an anthology of stories! I just hope there is a reference to Jin. Perhaps a Legends mission?
Yeah I agree man. Would love to see them go to different cultures tho too. Or maybe if they do they change it to “Beast of…” or “Phantom of …” imagine a Viking or Aztec warrior game made by Sucker Punch ?
@@andray310 Aztec warrior would be sweet! How about a Medji from Egypt
@@kaidorade1317 honestly they should just take Ubisoft entire catalog and have them looking like Soulja boy. “Man they took my whole flow!! Word for word bar for bar!!” 😂😂
@andray310 a Viking one would be cool. Aztec, too. Honestly, I'd love to see what they would do with India.
@@nidhoggr8193 dude that be awesome! India has such a rich culture and mythology
When I realized she is a dual wielding wanderer, I was like
"Ok, Musashi Miyamoto or anyone related to him will involve in this story."
She will probably teach Musashi Miyamoto the two sword technique because she's a badass
I hope musashi kills her in the end
@zh2266 okay stop glazing her she hasn't even said a word
@@zh2266🤢🤮
My theory is that Atsu is on a path of revenge but along the way she discovers that she is a descendent of Jin Sakai, the legendary Ghost figure who by now is probably just a myth.
So she uses the styles and teachings of her ancestor to help her complete her quest.
I hope we get to explore the entire prefecture of Hokkaidō. That would make the map 100x bigger than Tsushima. Probably not, but hey, a man can dream 💭
Thank you for making this video.
I think you’re onto something plus she wears a Hannya mask.
Hannya’s are female oni who are consumed by thoughts of vengeance.
You could be on something with this theory and I defo do agree with it I could defo see it cuz it wouldn’t be that far fetched
Personally I wouldn't want her to he a descendant of Jin , I think that would be way too on the nose.
This game is set after Sengoku, which is 300 years after Jin, his tactics should have been common sense by now.
My guess is similar to yours, but also different. Instead of being a descendent of Jin Sakai, she comes from a secret Shinobi clan inspired by The Ghost's tactics. Atsu might be from a family from that very Shinobi clan. I reckon that her family got discarded by one of the Shogun factions as they want to rule by gaining positive public sentiments, instead of heinous methods to take down their opposing factions. The only surviving member of her family, she hunts down the ronins hired to dispose of her family. A bit similar to Lady Masako's story, except that it's the Feudal lord that owned and managed her clan that wiped her family.
It is possible that her journey of vengeance will be stopped eventually, and basically you play as the villain.
Mt Youtei, which is referred to as the "female mountain" by the indigenous Ainu people, was seen as a sacred place in which feminity would flourish.
Keeping that in mind, SuckerPunch might have put a lot more thought behind the decision of a woman protagonist than one would assume.
Oh this is such cool info! Thanks for that!
And yet people will still call it "WoKe propaganda 🤡"
@@dawudabdulali3827 Can't say I blame them when it's proven to be the case with most other western AAA games in recent years. Whether or not it applies to this game remains to be seen, but look around at Sony's other IP's lately. With a small handful of exceptions, they've all fallen victim to DEI mandates in one form or another, and the PlayStation brand has been incredibly disrespectful to Japan ever since the Californianisation of the company. You'd have to be ignorant not to acknowledge that simple fact. The concern that SuckerPunch's next game could fall victim to those same trappings isn't unfounded in today's day and age.
Still, SuckerPunch so far has a better track record than most of respecting the settings they portray. They were dubbed official ambassadors for the island of Tsushima due to that fact, and even garnered praise from Japanese developers like Toshihiro Nagoshi (Super Monkey Ball, F-Zero GX and Like a Dragon). Provided Sony doesn't meddle with the game's development, or no undesirables rise to power within SuckerPunch (since development studios change staff all the time), we should hopefully get something decent out of it.
@@dawudabdulali3827 I mean, let`s be honest here. If you are speaking about a player base that is 85+% male and you do a female protagonist, it IS woke propaganda. It may be more reasonably grounded woke propaganda instead of the general stupidities like in the acolyte, but it still is woke propaganda.
@@shebaloso 🤡
I suspect the shamisen she carries will have some significance to her identity.
Since Sucker Punch are fans of Japanese film, perhaps this is following more in the 1970s exploitation era with films like Lady Snowblood. Perhaps the protagonist is disguised as a travelling musician on a quest for revenge of some sort. I don't think Sucker Punch is stupid enough to declare a woman as a (official and recognized) samurai. They will probably go deeper into the shinobi route with her.
I’m here for Princess Mononoke meets Lady Snowblood
and kill bill
@@wakuwakuguy9243 Lady Snowblood (along with Female Prisoner Scorpion, which starred the same actress) was one of the major inspirations for Kill Bill. Tarantino loves 1970s Japanese exploitation films.
Eh love ghost of tsushima and all but all the dishonorabru shinobi stuff is kidna stupid tbh since the most famous ninja was a samurai too
Also how stupid it is even if you play as the uncle intended (rushing in like a fully kitted samurai) there's no alternate ending for kt
I'm very excited for Ghost of Yotei. As for the question how Atsu could have gotten her training or became a Samurai, maybe she was a member of the household of LadyTachibana Ginchiyo? She recruited females into her elite guard, and trained all the females in her house in warfare skills, and she and her guard partook in battles and were allied with Hideyoshi. If I am not mistaken, the Tachibana clan was deprived of their posessions after Sekigahara, so it would stand to reason, that a potential member of Ginchiyo's elite guard could become a Ronin.
Atsu’s probably related to Jin through some way, I think the character is probably going to be hunting a Ronin who killed her husband, father, or brother during Sekigahara, as for the Ronin well, the one mentioned disappearing North so I think it’s likely that Hokkaido at least in this universe is going to be the place where a lot of Western Army men ran off to so they could disappear
Ghost of Tushima 2 before GTA 6???
I'm glad you had the same ideas for Tsushima II as I did.
Ghost of Tsushima
Ghost of Youtei
what’s next, ghost of Iwo Jima?
Maybe part of the Japanese American unit
Ghost of infamous
Ghost of Okinawa
Remember the katana guy in the bf5 Pacific trailer? Yeah that's him
Yeah, the only thing about this setting is that it is very much Not "Japan" as we know it. There shouldn't be many temples, shrines, and castles there. I wonder how this will all play out.
Tsushima wasn't an awfully inhabited or fortified island, yet GoT had the island filled with villages, towns, forts. I think they're allowed to take a bit of historical freedom for the sake of content and art, and I don't mind. They did it well in GoT.
By the mid-15th century, several Japanese forts had been constructed south of Mt Yotei.
The manga, Azumi, had to go through great pains to explain the lead being a female swordsman. She was a war orphan, trained alongside a whole group of orphans by a samurai master in secret to eliminate the enemies of the newly established Tokugawa Shogunate. Really great series, but it gets pretty dark.
The film is better if you want a slightly lighter take on the source material. Avoid the sequel, it sucks.
I was also quite shocked to see not a single aspect of Ainu culture anywhere in this trailer, but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Like maybe the game doesn't start in Hokkaidō and trailers clips (with people and buildings, etc., not the Mother nature scenery ones) all come from the beginning of the game...? I'm quite doubtful but, I'm still willing to wait to see more. But if the Ainu culture and history has been "Japan-wahsed" in this game, that'll be without me and I hope they get hit by a massive 💩🌪.
Since this is set in 1603, maybe the trailer could just be showing japanese settlements on the southern coast of Hokkaido
what Assassin's creed wish it was
Not a high hurdle to clear admittedly.
both look gay tbh.
I like the thought process your approaching the game, its always good to have cautious optimism. Recognise the potential in this new setting and character and also having faith in their track record, but also being aware that they need to do things right for the story to make sense and be a good story, whether its the female MC's backstory or the historical context of the area.
I'll say this I'm definitely more curious and excited about this game than I am AC Shadows, I look forward to seeing more content about this game eventually gameplay trailer all that, I never got into the PS5 console cycle much because to me there weren't many games to justify getting the system but with this coming out along with wanting to revisit rise of the Ronin, im definitely eager for more. I'm honestly going to have to go back and make another playthrough on Ghost of Tsushima now.
I knew you’d have something to talk about when this was announced
The announcement of this game brought me back to your channel. It’s good to be back!
Unlike some people, I don't automatically call a game woke just because they have a female lead(especially since the first game had a male lead) as long as the character and story are well written. As for the story, it seems like the devs were inspired by Blue Eye Samurai, which was a good show on Netflix(though it did play very loose with history).
All in all I'm looking forward to this game.
@@Bigrago1 dawg when they started calling space marine 2 “woke” you know the “anti-woke” brigade had no value.
And if they wanna call this game “woke”, they should also call the first game woke as well.
Considering there are two characters who sold out Japan to the Mongols but while the man got punished for his actions (Ryuzo), the woman ended up getting away with it (Tomoe).
When you are a hammer, everything is a nail.
The anti-woke movement has become so paranoid and insular that they are just as bad as the movement they oppose. They constantly jump at shadows and accuse everything of being woke with zero evidence. Nothing ever seems good enough for their purity tests.
That being said, I don't support their "enemy" either. I despise any form of political extremism.
@@nont18411 you can’t make money off your opinion that a 5 year old game is “woke”
@@Kage-jk4pjThere’s a difference. Sucker Punch kinda cares (because they like Samurai Movies and the Culture) and Ubisoft only cares about money.
I noticed that she dual wields her blades. Any chance there's a connection to Musashi?
Very likely! She could be one of his pupils.
I’m interested because Hokkaido is rarely used as a setting.
I only know two games where Hokkaido is used as a setting and even then it only took place in Sapporo.
Game look gorgeous. I am curious how this will play out. But I am a bit worried the game is set so much in the future from Tsushima setting. In case they move to make a third game, I don't think there's much to tell after the Edo period that would make the character of Ghost interesting, unless they are not following any chronological order. I was hoping to see the second wave of the Mongol invasion on the sequel or at least some descendent of Jin during the Sengoku period.
They're not tied to going in periodical order
I just remembered on Tsushima, Jin mentioned he read about the poisoned dart that was used by a warrior of the Minamoto clan. Now I am actually more excited about the possibility of a Ghost game set during the Heian period.
Great Video man, its a shame though judging by the comments that Ghost of Yōtei will get hate like AC Shadows for stupid reasons. I am excited for both games... I am glad there are lots of games set in asia now just need some Chinese land games as well like a AC China. Overall with blue eyes samurai, Shogun, rise of the ronin, the elusive samurai, etc. We are eating good... Yet people still spread hate.
❤
We only hate you because you constantly preach and practice little besides being a slacktivist in UA-cam comments.
Which isn't a crime but does prove you live in a bubble.
Man the atmosphere the trailer had was crazy, the American west in the 1800s was kinda like how Hokkaido was, rural and inhabited by mostly indigenous native tribes, that type of western style outlaw vibe is apparent by sucker punch since they are so heavily inspired by read dead redemption. Historically accurate or not , I love the Edo period for this type of game, the north was a wild frontier for most citizens at the time, so seeing a lot of nature would be a good thing for this story, but thats just my opinion
I don't see why this couldn't be akin to Avatar, where the 'Ghost' mantle is taken on by new generations in new eras. I have just as much respect for Kyoshi as I do Aang and I like the direction this is going.
LET'S GO OMG
AN AINU CENTRIC GAME??? HELL YEAH
The main character is literally Japanese and SP said that the game is like a Western, so no, no ainu-centric game.
You were quick with this one!❤❤❤
6:55 gyatt horse
I beg your pardon
If the old names are reused the don’t talk about nobu
I don't mind the setting, I actually prefer it because I always thought Jin's story can't really get a sequel because I mean how long are you gonna milk the mongol invasion of Japan?
Nonsense, there was still plenty of story potential for a second game with Jin. SP moving on from him so quick rubs me the wrong way. Could've saved that for a third game. Not to mention the way Sony is now apparantly looking to turn this into another Assassins Creed, essentially. Not every game needs to be a multi-game franchise.
@@the_echo209If it doesn’t need to be a multi game franchise, then why do you want another Jin game
@@the_echo209 fair point, but if what ur saying about this game being an assassins creed clone is true then that is quite sad. We'll just wait and see, I really hope this game rubs ubisoft's slop that is ac shadows up their nose
@snarf2400 I think you need better reading comprehension. I clearly mentioned AC in regards to the franchising of games. There's a difference between a sequel or two and endless sequels and spinoffs. AC and CoD being two examples of this. The former can have a strong narrative and creative through line with a passionate team behind it with a clear vision. The latter typically results in eventual creative bankruptcy.
@@the_echo209No? Multi game franchise doesn’t mean a franchise of spin-offs. I disagree with pretty much all of that, a Jin game would’ve been playing it safe. And oh creative bankruptcy huh 😂 come back when this game outsells the first significantly and everyone loves it. Like this is literally the most creative thing they could’ve done.
So much for continuing the story of Jin sakai, my excitement has been severely reduced.
Ghost of Tsushima changed me as a person I'm so hyped for this game!
Was waiting for this 🔥
If people say this is woke so was the last game. Why would it be a problem now?
The last game had the whole Lady Masako storyline and nobody was crying about it. The brainrots just gotten a lot worse since then lol
@Realmohg exactly and there was a misson where a male peasant definitely had feelings for another guy that sadly was killed by Mongols and they had many strong female warriors in the game. If they say this is woke then they have to say ghost of tsushima was woke and if not they're hypocrites.
@@Ghost_Void226ik what mission your talking about and the dude that got killed was that guys brother. There was no homosexual feelings there. Masako was an exception because she’s a side character. You’re totally of base my guy.
@bagzzz8899 maybe you are right and it's his brother. I remember it being suggested it was a lover but I haven't played in awhile so I will admit I could be wrong. But still dosent matter if lady Masako is a side character they still showed she has a female lover that is woke wouldn't you say? Again what does it matter if she is a side character only the side character can be gay? Also with all the guys upset about women fighting strong men, in the first game there are handful of women that cut down man after man with no problem so why would it be now. Again I will admit I could be wrong about the first thing but I'm not off base. If your saying this game is woke then ghost of tsushima was to.
@bagzzz8899 also looked it up you escort a man to his lovers grave which is also a guy. Lover dosent sound like brother to me.
I feel like 1603 is an odd choice for the setting. Basically the end of the Sengoku period, but still before the Osaka Campaign. I feel like there were better options available, at least from a creative standpoint. The Sengoku Period or even the Korean Campaigns of Hideyoshi would’ve given more creative options, but that’s just my opinion.
If there is any spirituality added, I feel like Atsu meeting an Ezo Wolf may lead her to the Ainu
What are the chances we will see any larger towns on this one?
Afaik, Sapporo didn't exist at that time, but Hakodate did. Though I'm not sure if it was an actual city back then.
Also, how big was the Japanese presence in Hokkaido as opposed to the Ainu population? Were there any Shrines and Temples in that area back then?
I am a little afraid the setting will only be nature and stuff...
I'm looking forward to those hot springs. 😉
Really looking forward to this game ❤
So it is a ghost game now,Nice but why a samurai female it is a stealth game smomehow why not assassinate someone as a gheisha or something and why is the game so far north
Its way to early to call this woke. Yes women did have the samurai title by hereditary family or marriage. But for them it was more of a title for political power and social hierarchy than being a warrior, which they did train in to protect the household. In this case she may be a rogue ronin from a broken samurai family, or a bandit, or a rogue Ainu. Lets wait and see how her story develops.
Based on the fact that she is carrying a shamisen in every scene in the trailer, I think it's pretty clear that she won't be a samurai by profession. IMO, she will be an assassin masquerading as a travelling musician.
@@outboundflight4455 I don’t care about the woke aspect, I care if the characters and story are well written. Honestly I’m worried they might just copy Blue Eye Samurai.
I'm excited for this but since the game is Sony, there is a high chance that I won't be able to play the game on Steam cuz of the PSN account requirement.
Her walking with that instrument, I heard you mention its name but i have no idea how to spell it correctly, reminds me of one of my favorite characters from Samurai Champloo, Sara
Can't wait to play one, two or more years after launch when the game made its way to steam library.
Can’t wait!
Im gonna miss Jin, but im still excited
Beautiful
My excitement went from $70 to $15
Why
Same. And literally cause we've already established this IP as at least having more realistic and grounded themes and setting (for the most part). A game where we are slaughtering ronin and Mongols brutally by the hundreds.
Whamen. Literally why are we playing as a woman? Most men find it difficult to directly relate to women the same way we do a man. And when the target demographic your making a game for is men then you make a sequel we're all hyped for just to be shown we're playing as a woman... Yea disappointed sets in.
No game is a hundred percent realistic, there's gotta be some arcady elements of you want fun in a game but this franchise set itself onto those foundations with the first. Simple as that
@@goosefraba7510facts well said
@@goosefraba7510ok. Go and miss out on it then.
@@goosefraba7510 Grow up its a video game. The gender doesn’t matter if the developers can tell an amazing and cohesive story with amazing graphics and gameplay. You’re trying to live through a video game character and you need to go outside and touch grass. Maybe talk to a real woman so you wont be so miserable over a video game. I hope you don’t buy!
Feels like a hold over for a real game later. People who see the female wandering duelist hero physically overpowering every man and say "it's a game, anything goes," are not playing for the same reason i do. It's just silly. Female generals/spies/warriors/politicians are in a very different position than men, historically, and if it's just Jin with pretty eyes and a size 0 waist, that feels disrespectful of the reality they face.
This
Ghost of tsushima was a great game.
Picking specifically a woman with the side of hear head shaved is a big red flag for this new game however.
Check the voice actor's identity and activism.
@@The_Custoswhy can't they hire normal people 😭
I admit seing who the voice actor for the main figure is i have my fears 🤔
I hope she keeps her personal views and opnions on surden matters 100% off this game and just hopefully do an amazing job
Im not on the ohhhhhhh is a female lets ban it and quit it camp i look very much forward to it 🙂
It has been known for a long time that the protagonist will be a woman (at least 3 years old leaked information). There were many reliable rumors to confirm this, including an animal companion. This is more or less just an official confirmation.
Ghost of Tsushima went woke with a stroooong Wahmen as the lead
Women can’t hold sword 🤬 wolf would never obey women 🤬 only penis
Yeah because the concept of samurai women never happened in Japanese history.
You know, Tomoe Gozen, Ohori Tsuruhime, Ii Naotora, Onna-Bugeisha in Aizu, to say the least.
Not even a woman.
This shit is the reason the gaming industry is imploding. Good riddance.
I would hold on the woke call till we find out who she is. Its still too early to tell. Yes women did have a Samurai title backcthen but their role as bushi or Warrior was not prominent and almost 1% of the whole samurai class. For them the title was of power and political influence within their house. There's a chance this character could be a bandit or a Rogue Ainu or maybe a daughter of a Samurai and just "As a Ghost" broke the societal norm of pre 1800s Japan and following the way of the Bushi, the way of the warrior for whatever personal vendetta she may have. It's too early to tell honestly. Let's wait and see how her story develops.
This better not be some $75 sweet baby Inc stuff
Pass
I am 99,2% sure that atsu is that kind of steriotypical fantasy woman-warrior.
Please make we should push them so that gender will not be forced on the player but could be selected. I do not want another title to fall prey to WOKE culture.
Ghost of YoD.e.i.
Seeing as the first ghost game was more inspired by samurai cinema than actual samurai history, I suspect Atsu might be an attempt at a 'Lady Snowblood' type thing. The yellow and black clothing she sports is very 'Kill Bill', and being in Hokkaido, I can easily see her getting the nickname of 'Yuki-onna' or something similar (to differentiate her from just being 'the ghost' as Jin was)
That piece of cloth she is carrying around is def a “kill list”
What’s lady snow blood??!!!!!
@@MegaMjjordan its and old Japanese movie about revenge
@@senzulean4642 gonna look for it now thanks!!
@@MegaMjjordan The manga/movie series that inspired kill bill
Feels like a hold over for a real game later. People who see the female wandering duelist hero physically overpowering every man and say "it's a game, anything goes," are not playing for the same reason i do. It's just silly. Female generals/spies/warriors/politicians are in a very different position than men, historically, and if it's just Jin with pretty eyes and a size 0 waist, that feels disrespectful of the reality they face.
Sucker punch dev said the new Ghost game is Cheeseburger Samurai = Western theme with Samurai hence the shamisen (guitar). Knowing SP that loves movie this has Kill Bill vibe (yellow outfit) female protagonist and revenge story and Ghibli with Princess Mononoke (wolves and female Protagonist and tribe of the north). One JP youtuber said that the wanted poster said a bounty hunter female and age.
They never said that clown
@@iwouldntlikemeeither they did in the documentary of Director's Cut.
@@iwouldntlikemeeither they did.
Shohei Kondo? I suggest checking his reaction too
My hopes are that this game does not make the Ainu stereotypical barbarian enemies you slay just because they’re there. In fact I’d love to see her try to help them. They are such a marginalized ethnic group that I’d love to see them treated with respect.
There can be enemies who are Ainu but there needs to be a good reason for it
Japan has been treating the Ainu with great respect for the last several decades, Ainu exhibitions at museums are very popular, and also Sucker Punch made it clear they are respectful when they made GoT. So I highly doubt they will be simple barbarians.
@@Perceval777 Good, I hope ❤️
@@Perceval777 that's far from the truth. Ainus have been struggling to maintain and profit from fishing rights that they historically possessed. They are often bared from selling the salmon they fish in rivers because its from protected fish stock. While its understandable for ecological purpose, Japan is famously hypocritical in using nonsens "traditional" claims to the whaling industry to justify its continued hunt of various whales. So banning Ainus for selling some fish is hypocritical. Another thing is that many conservative politicians still claim that "ainu decend from the okhotsk culture from Siberia, so they arent really Japanese" (they are between a third and half siberian, but mostly Emishi genetically iirc), to justify treating them as newcomers, with less respect. Its not that easy.
@Perceval777 No, they make money off Ainu culture and exclude them from political decisions, for example, the return of dozens of stolen Sakhalin Ainu artifacts and remains collected by Tokyo University (yes, they returned a part after being sued for years and still collect more). Even the LDP politicians openly discriminate against the Ainu on Twitter.
I would hardly call this an "improvement" but a government sham to avoid facing their colonizer past for sure. They even changed schools' history books to make it look like stolen Ainu land was returned. It's insane the lengths they went to avoid facing consequences...
*were a marginalized ethnic group
If samurai films are big inspiration to the developers maybe 1973’s “Lady Snowblood” revenge plot is one, with whole revenge angle?
I think the game will be you initially going against the Ainu as a Samurai’s daughter, realising it is wrong. Then switching sides fighting for the Ainu, similar to Jin’s ‘honour’ dilemma.
When I learned this game was going to be set in the Sengoku/Edo Period, I was rather bummed because almost every work of media with a historical Japanese setting is set in one of those two periods. But, having the location in Hokkaido is at least interesting enough to make me want to keep my eye on this game to see where it goes. And while I too am nervous about how they're going to handle a female lead, the trailer didn't seem to be trying to constantly point to her being a "strong female lead," it felt more subdued so I'm going to maintain a cautious optimism. We'll see though.
Some interesting random facts I’ve come across trying to deep dive Hokkaido history that might be useful;
•The Shamisen/Samisen found its way to Japan through port Sakai (😏😏😏) near Osaka (also the location of the final battle to cement the Tokugawa Shogunate’s position, though granted, that WAS several years after the current year of Ghost of Yotei)
•The Ainu did NOT have a written language, their history was kept through spoken word. So Atsu carrying a sash/banner with Japanese calligraphy written on it (what does iT SAYYYYYYY 😫😫😫) could attest that she’s a “southerner” and not actually FROM Yotei
•Wolves in Japan are now extinct, though that event wasn’t for another few hundred years. STILL- there could nonetheless be important similarities between the history of the wolves and the main character to kind of portray metaphorical/spiritual similiarities. In Ezo, the Ainu people viewed EVERY aspect of nature/animals as a type of god/deity (actual word- “kamuy”) of the land. Wolves were as cherished as domestic dogs, and hunters would often view wild wolves as “hunting” partners and would share kills with them. Far later, when wolves were labeled as pests, they were systematically wiped out through poisoning campaigns (👀) and bounties were awarded for each wolf killed by a hunter. [Personal theory that how Sakai’s “animal guide” was foxes- I think Atsu’s “animal guide” will instead be wolves. And kind of like how Deer were venerated on Tsushima and that it’s “bad luck” to kill them- it’s “bad luck” to kill a wolf in early Edo period because they prey on pest animals that damage crops)
•The current “ronin” inhabiting Ezo COULD very well be the old “samurai” who had been chased out of their positions and homes by the new Shogunate. So my theory is that perhaps the old Shogunate’s forces might be trying to conquer Hokkaido and establish territory BEFORE the new Shogunate sends his forces to occupy it.
•Yellow is a “bright, optimistic, youthful” color in Japanese symbolism- which is an interesting take given what we know about the Ghost. Also the usage of it in the trailer is suspiciously insistent- between Atsu’s clothing, the yellow leaves on the trees, the yellow gingko leaf in the logo, and the wolves’ yellow eyes and teeth.
•Kurosawa (the director behind the black and white mode) had a film called “The Seven Samurai”. Look it up- it’s the inspiration behind ANY “get the team together to go f*ck sh!t up” trope that’s in too many games/movies for me to name (and coincidentally ALSO Ghost of Tsushima). NOW- in THIS particular film- a village requests the aid of a samurai to help defend them against bandits who keep returning to steal their harvest. The Village’s Chief has a daughter (Shino)- one who the Chief decided to raise/disguise as a boy for her own protection. She falls in love with one of the samurai.
[SO- MY theory- the game’s cover art- Atsu kneeling on a cliff with six swords stabbed into the ground around her, paired with what Sucker Punch said about Atsu being a more “vengeful, underdog” type of character- makes me wonder if she’s going to be a kind of spin off “what if” of Shino if her lover had been kidnapped/defeated by the bandits (Ronin??) and she’s decided to go on a personal mission to find and rescue/avenge him/her village. I think that like how Jin Sakai was a noblemen/samurai who ended up “lowering” his status to that of the Ghost- I think Atsu will essentially be a commoner/thief “nobody” who instead RISES her status to that of the “Ghost” by helping defend the Ainu/commonfolk around Mount Yotei who are most likely getting their asses handed to them by the Ronin/Samurai terf wars happening on top of them.]
I have a feeling that it won't just be Hokkaido, but also Northern Honshu considering the title is Ghost of Yotei and not just Ghost of Ezo.
I think the story’s going to be the whole: "DUDE BY INVADING HOKKAIDO AND ATTACKING THE AINU WE ARE JUST AS BAD AS THE MONGOLS WHO INVADED TSUSHIMA 300 YEARS AGO" type deal. They already sort of did that with the Iki DLC.
They did that with GoT. Even before Iki. Once Jin uses the poison, which Lord Shimura warned him made him no better than the mongols, mongols began using the poison immediately against civilians and against Jin with their arrows, proving Shimura's point. Now that I think of it, basically the whole point of Ghost of Tsushima was Shimura trying to keep Jin from becoming like them and failing.
@@ToothpasteJuiceAt least it made for compelling drama rather than being maudlin.
I’ve always been curious about Ainu culture so I too would like it to be properly represented. Not bothered at all about the protagonist being a woman since I went full geisha ninja with my characters in Rise of the Ronin. I’m talking face paint, black teeth, & everything
I think Atsu will be an Ainu and conducting an insurgency against the shogun’s forces. She will probably use Jin’s story as the basis for her insurgency and that’s how we could get more info on what happened To Jin
The main protagonist being a woman in that time period really gave me 'revenge' plot thoughts. It being very heavily influenced by Wild West themes and tone led me to believe that her journey will be inspired by Kill Bill and Female Prisoner Scorpion, heck she's even wearing yellow throughout the trailer ala Kill Bill. My guess she was a part of an Ainu tribe that was slaughtered by the main bad guy of the game whoever that may be and took on the mantle of the Ghost after hearing legends & stories of Jin from her elders.
No one seems mentioned Fuuma Kotaro, one of the famous Ninja in sengoku era, he died in 1603, executed by Tokugawa. She probably related to him, and fuuma name mean wind demon, and you know, the wind is also important in the previous game 😂
I wasn't surprised that Jin didn't return; I felt his storyline was finished.
I suspect it will be another invasion" type of plot, this time depicting Japanese from the south encroaching on Ainu villages and lands. Probably a special emphasis placed on the newly formed Tokugawa Bakufu as the antagonist because of their organizational/institutional ability to "colonize" the land. I hope I'm wrong... I hope it's less grand and more of a personal plot.
Ghost of Tsushimaから300年後にGhost of Yōtei、Ghost of Yōteiから300年後にゴールデンカムイ
Ghost of Yōtei, 300 years after Ghost of Tsushima.Golden Kamuy 300 years after Ghost of Yōtei
I feel like they may be going for a frontier feel with Hokkaido as a lawless wild place with ronin aka outlaws and ainu indigenous people for example
Man I can’t wait, great video. Btw good thing all the conservative snowflakes weren’t into gaming when I was growing up, games like Metroid and Tomb Raider would have definitely been called woke, hell they called games like Elden Ring and BG3 woke until sales shut them up.
Please. Nobody except fringe individuals have a problem with the main characters gender, it is how they use it that MAY be a problem. And so far the track record of entertaiment industry has been poor, writing bad characters and then bandaiding their short comings with heavy handed "message" and then complain when people call them out on their BS. I do not want that in games I play. BG3 was pushing the limits very hard and if that game did not turn out as good as it did it could have backfired really epicly. Anyway, a lot of gamers are vary to the point of paranoia who see red flags everywhere even if SP has no real deeper meanings behind their choice of main protagonist other than she just fits the setting so damn well. We'll see what happens when more information is out about the game.
What if these ronins are an influx or infestation of criminals who went to Hokkaido to kinda get away from the shogunate or more of a "wild west"? Is that maybe a possibility? Maybe she would be looking for a certain criminal who escaped to Hokkaido?
Can't wait to play this! Looks absolutely stunning!
I hope they do a good job showing the Ainu culture. I’ll admit I know next to nothing about it, and wouldn’t know good from bad portrayals, but since they don’t seem to get tons of media made about their culture it’d be nice if this one hit it out of the park.
i get the the feeling that ghost of yotei female character is inspired by a mix of female prisoner scorpion series and lady snowblood , like the first game was inspired by old samurai movies
I genuinely don’t know how you can’t be excited if you liked the first ghost game and saw the trailer
I'd love to hear your thoughts on what you hope has been changed or improved since got and how things should be different due to it being over 300 years later.
The thing that excites me the most was the new weapons, things are gonna get crazy good!
the only person i want to weigh in on the new game
Ainu story and Japanese warlord history around after Sengoku Era .
I think Atsu might be something of a mix of an inspiration from Miyamoto Musashi + Tomoe Gozen . an Onna Bugeisha .
though if we talk about something akin to Kunoichi , she might also be inspired by Mochizuki Chiyome too .
Would rather the main character be a fox. 🦊
I'm guessing Atsu would be a former Samurai who now travels as a ronin and performer to earn money. She'll probably ally herself with the Ainu against the invading Samurai, just as Jin Sakai ally himself with the locals against the Mongols.
Personally I loved the Blue-Eyed Samurai anime and I think that if Sucker Punch takes a few cues from that story while adding their own flair it'll be a masterpiece. I'll say this though: People on the interweb REALLY seem to hate that the protagonist is a woman and I fear that the game's sales will suffer even if it's a 10/10. But I trust SP completely and I'll probably either pre-order or buy it Day 1.
They hate the female protagonist, because they're being spoon fed by dumb culture war idiots spreading nonsense about "woke propaganda".
I am just sad, man. Just saw the twitter bio of the person who plays the new protagonist. We just can't have nice things.
Uncharted 4 sequel replaces male protagonist with female.
Tlou sequel replaces male protagonist with female.
GoT sequel replaces male protagonist with female.
Its called pattern recognition. And this is Sony we're talking about.
@@Max44611 If she does a good job voicing the character, then who cares? You people put way too much stock in this para social shit. It's weird.
@@jcaesar19871 bunch of people care, look at the “success” of Concord. 😂 Stay delulu, buddy.
P.s. you say “weird”? Very rich coming from a guy who looks like a creepy basement dweller that still lives with his parents.😬 Just delete your account, it’s embarrassing.
@@jcaesar19871I'm feeling charitable so I'll assume you're just truly laid back about this rather than a paid shill or an apologist of some sort. In which case I'm honestly glad for you!
I actually prefer that they went for the Ghost of angle, this way they can change main characters and storylines easyier. Also i'm really interested in northern Japan so Yutei/Hokaido is a decision i really apreciate. Who knows maybe they return to tsushima in a furure Game.
The name ''Mt Yotei'' was not confirmed until the Meiji era.
''Ghost of Ezo (the old name of Hokkaido)'' was not good enough?
This may be a good game but there'll be grifters outraged they'll have to play as a girl. I personally don't give a rat's behind as long as it's a good game.
I will be very disappointed if this game doesn't at least have an Easter Egg relating to 許されざる者 (2013)....
Kinda lost interest when I saw that it is set in Hokkaido. When I'm already in Ainu Mosir just let me play as an Ainu.
This setting leaves me so confused.
Was there even any significant yamato presence on those parts around those times?
About the immersion you talked about and justifications for Atsu, I feel that most of the problem with these games is because they have the pretense of "trying to be authentic".
There was Japanese presence in the south of Hokkaido, the Matsumae. They traded with the Ainu and generally had good, peaceful relations with them during the late Sengoku and Edo periods.
@@Perceval777 But like Shogunate said, this new "map" looks "too japanese".
I can answer some of your concerns. First of, what was the Yamato population like in Hokkaido : the island had long been a place for dissident and state enemies to be exiled to in the High medieval period. This might be why the game chose to depict so many ronin there. Most of the Yamato population only truly settled in the 14t century in the Oshima Peninsula, especially the part closest to Honshu, namely the so called "12 garrisons", 12 forts maintained by the Ando clan. In the 15th century, the neighboring ainus wared with them and destroyed the estern most garrisons, leaving Matsumae as the main center of Power. The city was a hub of northern trade, with many chinese goods and siberian traders present. The trade of these chinese goods, fur and fish was the main economy of the region because the climate was too harsh for any significant rice farming. Thus the population couldn't be very large, less than 15k yamato at least around 1600, mostly around the Ports. Because of rebellions there was a relative limit between where ainu and yamato could freely go, yamato rarely venturing outside the Matsumae domain (they tried to force every trader to go by them and not ainu ports). If some smiths worked for ainus, the big influx of Yamato bandits and crucialy, illegal miners aroudn Yotei, came with the gold rush of the second quarter to mid 17th century. So would there be much Yamato Japanese cultural elements in Hokkaido in 1603? Not really outside the coast, which might add, was populated by "yamato" but mostly Watarito ('渡党), roughtly travel party, aka a nebulous group that existed since the 14th century in the Tsugaru Strait, likely mixed ainu/Yamato people who worked as traders ; the people of the Matsumae domain often wore ainu clothes ; Kakizaki Yoshihiro, the Matsumae lord, even wore an ainu traded chinese robe when meeting Ieyasu, to show that he was no mere Japanese but also "lord of the ainus" (think of how the Grandmaster of the teutonic Order started using the title King of Prussia, an area outside the holy roman empire, to put himself on greater footting vis-à-vis the Emperor, here its the same with the Shugun). Period texts also often dont consider Matsumae fully japanese, they are barbarians, degenerates. TLDR : Yamato mostly lived in the far south of Hokkaido, were very few, mixed, partially proud to be seen as outsiders and "half barbarians" in Honshu, and rarely ventured as north as Yotei, so the setting seems innacurate.
Yes, waiting with impatiently for more bloodshed Thank You 🙏👺 Hope there will be whole new series of Ghosts and maybe more myth-legend sub-squel like Sekiro 🫶
As a Golden Kamuy fan I think 19th century would be much more suited for this setting
Lady Masako, Yuna, and Sensei Ishikawa’s student Tomoe all strong female warriors with good reasons and stories about why they fight. I’m sure the studio can handle Atsu’s story just fine and you don’t need to worry about a woman being a warrior
Rest in peace Lord Sakai. Your legacy will never be forgotten. For Tsushima!!! For the Ghost!!!
After watching the trailer for the first time, and utilizing my extremely limited knowledge regarding Japanese history, at first, I thought the protagonist was a Ochimushagari, but, of course, I assume there is an interesting, more profound reason why she is hunting ronin. I'm looking forward toward new information regarding Ghost of Yōtei's story.
Yeah I completely agree they should always do a backstory or character ark in the game. Also they should keep the game consistent throughout. Personally I really liked playing Ghost of Tsushima that was last real game I played before I completely stopped. I just don't have time for it any more.