I'm pretty sure those 1.8 million views are from me lol. I stream your content while driving to clients and the amount of time they say their own business is so cringe. They are sales people.
As an actual business owner, it's a complete lie. It's just sad because some of these girls work so hard, they could be using that energy for actual success. I wish I could hire some of these women just for the sheer amount of hard work they put in. Just saddens me because it's most likely for nothing.
I truly dislike how she says, "hating on something a woman does to provide for her children." What about the other children? Children of those parent who you BEG to buy a product pack even though they can barely afford to feed their kids.
Yeah these are people telling other to just put the starter pack on a credit card because if you can't afford the pack immediately you need it the most
What about their own children? We've seen before how the kids of MLM huns don't get their full attention because their parents are literally glued to their screen trying to get new recruits and, sadly, are usually the ones who get the brunt of their parent's frustrations. I don't remember where, but I remember seeing this one video of a hun trying to record a video with their children crying for them in the background and instead of comforting the child, she yelled at them to shut up because she was working. Another was in an MLM group zoom call, where a hun was listening and their kid was trying to get her attention and she kept pushing them away, seemed like she scolded them, and when the kid continued she looked so angry as she turned off the camera and muted. When she turned it back up, the kid was nowhere in sight.
@@katzcat8181 To add to that, Deanna Mims read a horror story from the child of a high ranking MLM mom. They detail how distant she was even when she was physically there, listening to her shouting at her downlines in the other room for hours while locking them out, taking her frustrations out on them, posing for film crews in rented mansions and rented cars that weren't even big enough for the family, having to act out wholesome family activities for the camera that they never did in real life and being very confused by the whole spectacle. The entire thing just seems so sad and unnecessary. A child would be perfectly happy to rely on their mom being home every day at 4 o'clock. Eating dinner together, getting a bath, reading a bedtime story together. There's nothing wrong with that at all
That one woman crying because she had to work on nice days is one of the most privileged things I’ve ever heard, most people have to work on nice and bad days and have never seen an Apple orchard
@@kadeelacayo4806 yes, they're the worst! They should join Monat so that instead of working at the apple orchard, they could spend their free time there 😏😂
One of the saddest things to me about these videos they post is how unprofessional it is. They call themselves business owners but they treat their profiles and business accounts like teens in high school trying to be influencers. This just isn't how you conduct yourself to look like a professional, qualified competent professional.
So true. Small business owners aren’t focusing on being relatable and showing off their family and what they made for breakfast. I own a small business where I sell handmade jewelry. I focus on product lines and new collections not on morning routine… it’s just weird…
Yes! It is surprising that anyone over 13 could see these juvenile performances as persuasive. I am appalled every time by the jargonism and use of filler words. They talk and talk without saying anything. All the videos combined could be summarized in 3 sentences.
@@Komandarin I think it's appealing specifically to those who don't want to work. Because what these huns do really doesn't look like working (of course they don't show potential future downlines all the cold messaging and convincing/tricking/bribing they have to do) so it appeals to people who hate having to act professional for work. And then if those people do fall for the pitch completely and join, they may be working their ass off doing useless personal development and obsessively trying to recruit but at least they still don't have to worry about acting professional
Hannah, I so admire your refusal to be baited by these childish women. The first gal is trying SO hard to be provocative, but your calm and compassionate dissection of her nonsense is marvelous. She is really bothered-and sadly, since I lack your level of chill, I love to see it.
It kind of breaks my heart because she genuinely believes this and it's further proof on how they are so brainwashed they can't see there are actual women trying to back them and cheer for them and they can't even see it.
11:35 I agree with all your points and may I add - having a diagnosed ”mental issue” does not automatically make you a weird or bad person. Not at all. I’m getting sick of hearing this insult, it’s getting old.
I swear I've said this 1,000,000,000 times but it never stops boggling my mind how many people use this logic and how broken it is, so I'll say it _yet again:_ researching, discussing, criticizing and exposing certain subjects *does not mean you're a fan or approve.* This is literally no different than saying people who study and prosecute crime either as professors, sociologists, forensic scientists, psychologists/psychiatrists, law enforcement or legal personnel, it must mean they actually *love* crime -- like does that logic make any sense to anyone???? _"Oh you're arresting me for fraud? lol why are you so obsessed with me, you're my no. 1 fan!"_ Like, no Cynthia, stop flattering yourself, I'm literally offended by your actions and how they harm others, that's why I'm shining a light on them.
Also, how telling is it that most people who watch her are anti-mlm researchers and not her cult frie-... I mean prey... I mean target demogra-... I mean real fans
Omggg the monat photographer lady really did tooooo much for me. If you’re a photographer who is THAT booked you could probably afford to choose your shoot dates. I work in nightlife and I have a bunch of photographer friends. It’s an independent gig job. You literally choose when you do and don’t work lol
She doesn't sound as if she knew how to run her business. Now she can cry and make reels at her kid's games and still not be present, which IMO is worse than not being there.
@@maryeckel9682 She could schedule around important events ahead of time. For example, she can decide she will not book any shoots during her son's birthday. She lacks time management.
I was thinking similar lines. If she is that booked, she has every power to choose her own shoot dates. Not a parent, but I doubt that kids actually care that much about whether their parent(s) is at the game, any more than having their parents be present for support when needed. I mean what's the point of having your mom around at the game/birthday/some life milestone, if she's on the phone the whole time anyway?
@@williamho2940 yeah, I'd say most kids care and WANT their parents to be present (maybe not as often once they get closer to their teen years, lol), but physically being there is only half of that "presence". More than anything they want to know you're paying attention! The MLM-er definitely didn't think of her pitch too well lol.
The first video, where the lady said Hannah is “the worst kind of person” is seriously juxtaposed. You’re one of the most genuine, warm people and I simply can’t say enough good things about you. That said, when my kids get mad at me and call me “the worst mom ever”, I simply laugh and tell them thank you, but that I didn’t have a speech prepared for that award. They fail to see the humor in it. 😂
@@margingains2937 my youngest is 15 and he rolls his eyes so hard when I say this to him, I have to laugh. Brace yourself! The teen years ain’t for sissies!! 😂
Dietitian here 🙋🏼♀️ those shakes are not enough to be used as meal replacements. I never recommend shakes as replacements unless I have a patient who has been losing weight related to things like skipping meals or early satiety BECAUSE they don’t make you feel full and satisfied. It is also important to consider gastric emptying rate - how fast your stomach releases food into your intestines. Liquids go very fast which does not help you feel full. Also, your stomach tells your brain you’re full when it gets stretched. If you are having a shake, that’s not going to stretch your stomach much. Unless you have like 64 oz or something ridiculous lol at that point, eat a meal! I should submit a horror story because, unfortunately, working in a hospital has exposed me to all sorts of MLM products like this. I had a patient dying of covid want to use juice plus supplements instead of the IV meds and vitamins/minerals specifically formulated for their body. It’s insane!! Thank you for all you do!! Love your videos ☺️
Precisely. I drink Ensure as a way to make sure I'm getting enough BECAUSE I don't eat enough. I'm already underweight, but I get full very quickly and feel full for long periods of time. Drinking shakes and things don't make me feel full for that long, so I can still eat when I eventually do feel hungry. Shakes and drinks like Ensure are made to be supplements, not replacements. There are not enough calories to make sure you're getting enough nutrition.
I’ve used shakes (not MLM shakes) as part of my ED recovery process while I was transitioning to eating proper meals. Real food is so much more satisfying.
Reminds me of toxic people who say things like: I'm so trustworthy. I make so much money. People say I'm so much fun! I am a good person. I help people all the time! Etc, etc. etc. Healthy people don't do self proclamations. Toxic people do!
The lady crying about not having to work on sunny days turned my stomach. I understand wanting to be there for family events, but all I heard was "I used to be a terrible parent because I had to work but now I'm a good mom because I can be at his games". It's not like she was making promises and not following through. She had a job with an atypical, but predictable, schedule. My father was in heavy construction and also had an atypical schedule. Depending on the current job he might be working a graveyard or split-shift, working overnight on the weekend, living away from home Monday through Thursday, or in another state for 3-6 months. When he could attend things, he attended them, when he couldn't, we understood why, and we did our best to schedule things we could control to work with his schedule. The implication he was a bad parent because (for example) he missed my 13th birthday because he was working in another state at the time is insulting.
If you watch enough of these huns going live, you will see plenty of them saying "Not now, Mommy's working." or, "come get this kid, I'm going live." I saw one where a little boy went to his mother crying because he found his goldfish dead. She eventually went to deal with it and later resumed her call, laughing about flushing Goldy down the toilet. I was thinking, "B****! You'd be a better mother if you worked at Subway! And you'd make more money!"
yes its the “im crying because im so grateful for being able to pay attention to my kids by being on my phone 24/7 and misleading people instead of working a credible job” LOL
I honestly think she's crying but for the wrong reasons- it may be her realizing she actually misses her old work because being a rep in the highest position is definitely not all fun and sunshine as they like to paint it, if reps are nasty to their downlines, they are awful to each other, but I think she's too brainwashed to notice what she actually misses and it has become so natural to her to turn her pain into a pitch. I can't help but feel bad for her.
I've been in sales for over 12 years. Not once have I had to defend my company this hard or have someone ask me if what I do is a scam. This behavior is not normal! And she wonders why there's an audience for antimlm content...
Registered dietitian here 🙋🏻♀️ and I would absolutely never recommend any meal be 160 calories… let alone 2 meals per day 🥴 That is insane and can promote disordered eating Also, looooove your channel! Anti-MLM content has fascinated me for so long and your channel is one of my favorites!! Keep it up girl 🥰
I wonder what the 'slimfast' version of 2 shakes a day and real meal comes to? shakes 190-220 cal depend on flavour and meal expected to be 500 cal so combined 900-100 cal a day
The whole time during that clip I was sitting here thinking, that type of behavior has got to be causing people to develop eating disorders. Thanks for the confirmation!!
@@peridot_craponite_earrings it definitely does which is extremely sad because once you develop an eating disorder, it sort of stays with you in one way or another for the rest of your life. Though the weight loss causing EDs involve either removing something from the body or not putting something into the body rather than taking a substance, EDs are very similar to addiction
@@dahliacheung6020 Unfortunately I know all too well about those types of things always sticking with you. ☹️ I was also thinking about the intense pressure put on them to live up to the hype killing their better judgement about their health for future situations as well.
As someone in the tech industry allow me to explain how she could have gotten the phone number: 1. Actually obtaining the phone number is pretty easy through Facebook. Someone people have their phone number accessible through their contact details. Others have messages and calls from Facebook directly forwarded to their number. There are also countless places where one could do a reverse username search and find it. 2. Figuring out who clicked the link is a lot more difficult. Currently Facebook does not have analytics for who specifically clicked on a link. Now if you react to a post they could figure you out that way. The other way is if they are using a trackable link with hidden input fields. These fields could grab things like your username, IP address, etc and give that information back to the person who wanted your info. This is honestly a decently complex thing and not something Google forms offers. So, if the mlm Huns are using it, they are evolving. Overall, yes it is possible. Yes it is extremely unethical. And yes it is complex.
I literally was hospitalized after Herbalife. For 3 weeks. With multiple health problems and a nutritionist who was assigned to me during this read and did her research on Herbalife, and literally called it a "chemical sh*tstorm". No wonder all of my organs were inflamed and shutting down. Never, ever again!
If I were in an alternate timeline and I was considering joining an mlm, and I saw the person recruiting me posting tons of videos about people hating them for being in an mlm, I 100% would not be enticed.
Hannah: "oh no, my necklace is off center! I bet that was so annoying!" Me, watching this in my pj's: "oh, she has a necklace on!" 😂😂😂 I appreciate your faith in our attention to detail.
It’s 3 pm here , I have insomnia and adhd and was up until 5 , slept until 7 took my kids to school came back and just woke up again . I’m still in my pajamas and haven’t even brushed my teeth
OMG, the sob story of the photographer was SO manipulative. I mean, you can have much worse jobs than being a photographer. Of course you can be miserable at any job, but the way she cries about having to take pictures on sun down, is just so over the top. I get that she feels like she missed out on a lot, but saying "now I get to enjoy sunny days" sounded like she wasn't able to leave the house before. I have many friends who are photographers, and I've never heard anyone complains about having to work on a bright day.
@@shayewitman9607 Also... She mentioned that now she only do studio shots, which has nothing to do with MLM. A pro photographer has so many options for "time freedom", especially if you're a freelancer. I mean, you can be a wedding photographer, journalism photographer or like she mentioned - have a studio.
As a former photographer for 20+ years, I felt what that one girl was saying. I missed out on a lot of playground days and nice weekends with my boys. BUT as a former YL silver, it's no comparison to the amount of time I spent ignoring my kids for a "business call" or being glued to my phone refreshing my app to see if my ogv was going up, or literally obsessed with "networking" on Facebook and trying to recruit. That was worse.
I would like to point out the fact that the photogropher stated that she was able to move her (actual) business to indoors settings so that she could start attending her child's games. Sooo.... she outed herself that it wasn't actually the MLM that provided her that opportunity. And I would argue that she probably could have achieved that even if she weren't involved with MLM.
“If you make a living or waste all your timing hating on something that a woman does to provide for her children, and make content based on it, you’re actually the worst type of person.” Oh, you mean like…. Shaming “Corporate jobs” and “9-5s”? For instance? 🤔
as a photographer the clip of the photographer pissed me off! I am so blessed to own my own business and I very rarely have to miss games as I charge my worth so I don't have to work every night! so clearly she probably wasn't the best business owner either or she could control her schedule completely!
But also, I’ll bet you anything she’s at the game on her phone the whole time. If she’s a photographer, she might schedule shoots out weeks or months in advance (especially if she does weddings or engagements or pregnancy shoots). A kids’ sport schedule might not be out yet, and yeah, that sucks. But being there in body only is a choice. Unless you’re in an MLM. Then it’s non-negotiable.
@@TheRonnieaj i have Two boys in travel baseball and school ball and I figure it out to be there for my kids does it suck for sure but I also price myself where I definitely don't have to take opportunity of EVERY sunset that exaggeration at its finest! I run a small business to be there for my children! And yes I am sure you are right I bet her face is in her phone now that she is there 😉
How I got into Doterra - by being shamed for medicating my ADHD child - not by Doterra reps, but by society, I was desperate for 'natural' ways to help her. It took me so long to realize medicine. he best thing for her. She was seven and it was the first time I had ever had a conversation with her that she initiated. MLM's are another way for rich people to make money on the insecurities of women trying to do it all the best possible way for themselves for their families.
that first lady getting all upset for people tearing down her lifestyle and business, well guess what. people don't tear down individuals that work at sephora, someone that works at a restaurant, people that work as a therapist... so like, maybe look inward and try and figure out WHY people are so invested in commentary about YOUR "business opportunity"
That arbonne rep said “you can save money on groceries by eating less.” Also, you’re right Hannah. Arbonne shakes are probably not a budget friendly option.
$10 a day? My monthly budget for groceries is $200 and I manage 30 - 31 days of complete meals on that, even in this economy. In this economy. I just became my grandparents. Oy.
It’s also so weird that she is this bothered by strangers following her / watching her story because her job is to TALK to strangers! I’m sure her mutuals share her content so when their followers go to her and see a story like THAT I’m sure it would make some people feel bad/uncomfortable. Like you’re a content creator!! A bunch of strangers are watching you everyday!!! Don’t like it?? Leave the internet! Oh wait, you can’t… then you wouldn’t have a job.
So true! People that have public accounts and then accuse people who watch as being stalkers are one of my top pet peeves of the internet. I legitimately had a stalker. Guess what, ALL MY SOCIAL MEDIA IS PRIVATE! Lol. Unreal, entitled and just plain old gross mindset these attention hungry people have.
MLMer: go to the source to get information on MLMs! Anti-MLMer: *pulls out income disclosure statements from the past x years* MLMer: no, not like that!
It has been amazing to see your channel grow at the rate it is!! I also went to college for teaching and I can see a lot of skills transferred from that into how you make your videos. You are so clear and well spoken and I think that is a huge reason people gravitate to you, your videos are easy and enjoyable to learn from. I think what you're doing is very valuable and I am here for all of it!!
Beautifully said! I agree. Hannah is a very good teacher. She is obviously very knowledgeable, but also SOOOO good at explaining things. It’s the difference between knowing a lot, and actually being a quality educator.
It’s one of my main internet peeves with people who claim their viewers are stalkers when they have a public social media account. There are privacy controls for a reason. As someone who has had a genuine stalker, my social media is zipped right up, except for the random things I want others to see. I’m so over the entitled, attention hungry people with public accounts that play victim for no reason.
Hannah! Would you consider uploading your audio into a podcast format? I think your MLM horror stories in particular! I find myself listening to your videos while cleaning, driving(phone down of course) and while crafting! Also even at work. I’d love to be able to have your videos on a podcast app so I can close my phone and put it In my pocket! ❤️
I don't even care about MLM or Anti MLM. Hannah's channel is just one of the non stressful content I listen to while at work that unlike NEWS, I can listen to for hours without being upset. So I listen to full video and like the ones I watch. (sorry I mainly only subscribe to graphic design tutorials) thanks Hannah for the audio, while i work.
What I love about your commentary is the throughout breakdown, that makes us, viewers, understand how you are debunking the stories those people are trying to use to manipulate!! Thanks for your commentary! Keep it up, it’s so fascinating your approach is very psychological and I love it!
As a mom, the crying one is really heartbreaking. On this, the day after "Mother's Day" in the US, we are reminded of how our capitalism and materialism has affected parents, especially mothers. We offer no health care, no paid parental leave, we do not value mental health nor are we kind to people who struggle. This is what makes many people, especially women, so vulnerable to MLMs. That's my opinion. It is so sad.
This is why I don’t add my phone number to social media. Thats sketchy AF and I bet a lot of scam companies use this approach too and is how they send you those scammy text messages.
I follow a Monat rep who SWEARS up and down that her hair has grown so much because of monat but has also said she quit bleaching and using heat on her hair at the same time she started monat, but YES it’s all thanks to the products🙄🤦♀️
How do you not have at LEAST 100k subs? You’re so well spoken and in depth with your anti-MLM commentary. You are extremely thorough and thought out with your responses and education on these sometimes elusive schemes. Keep doing what you’re doing, there is nothing but success and genuine change in the anti-MLM community with you as a pillar. ♥️
I've always hated the ideal of "if you talk about what I'm doing wrong your stalking/inlovewithme/myfan/etc" Literally people are not weird for hating a scam. It's not about you. It's your "job"
Congrats on the sponsorship (and for almost 39k!!!) I personally can't wear fragrances because of sensitivity to scents and my work in archives but so happy for you and hope others can jump on the deal
NGL, I cried happy tears too when we had our first warm and sunny day here. But that's because I have seasonal depression and I can literally feel the weariness leave my body.
i can relate, i have mdd and it gets extra bad when it's hot and sunny. the thing is, i live in texas :')) so i definitely get very happy when it's cool outside
What makes me laugh is her taking even more time to go through her stories and look at who watches them and see if they follow her or not. That takes even more time 🤣 Edit: Just got to the part where you said the exact same thing 🤣🤣
My local mall held a child entrepreneur event. Most stands were crafts, a few baked good, even homemade catnip! But one was Doterra… even the kids aren’t safe from the disgusting oily huns.
You're absolutely right about the story watching scenario. They look at who watches their stories because anybody who views their stories is a potential recruit. I feel like I saw a zoom call where this was explained by one of the MLM leaders to their downline.
That makes sense. It also checks out why her “I could just go private” thing was an empty threat. She wouldn’t go private because it’d reduce her chances of recruiting more and more people
Before i watch this, wanted to come on here to say that i was really unmotivated to cook, but now that this came out and i can cook and listen this, i'm super motivated again 😂! Thanks
To clarify on what I clicked after reading a few comments… I did not click any ad. She had a promoted reel and I immediately cringed and checked out her Facebook page to see if it was obvious which MLM she was in. It was not so I clicked her “link in bio” and it took me to those MLM forms they create. Still zero info on what MLM she was in. So I exited. Weeks later got the text! I have a completely private Facebook and no phone number linked, so I believe she was able to get my phone number through the site she had created.
I love it when I’m notified that you posted a video. Your tone and cadence are so soothing and relaxing. I am truly hoping that you’ll start branching out the strange and spooky; it would be so nice to hear you telling those stories. Your so calming I’m pretty sure you could tell the creepiest of stories and I’d be like “oh, that’s nice”. Keep up the great work!
The sneaky phone number grab would almost certainly be illegal in Australia under the Privacy Act. You have to be upfront in collecting personal information and allow people to consent to the collection. I wonder if there are similar laws in the US? Perhaps at a state level not federal?
Hannah it cannot be overstated: every video you keep outdoing yourself with your succinct analysis. Your take on the “vision” piece and everything else - chef’s kiss. Truly hate it when your videos end I get really upset LOL can’t wait for the next video!
You just popped up on my feed one day. I've never really watch anti-mlm stuff. And I'm SO GLAD you were the first creator that popped up. I started looking into the other anti-mlm channels. But you are 100% my favorite. You're so logical, and calm, and smart af. I literally put you as someone I look up to in a workshop the other day. Keep doing what you're doing 👏👏👏
Yes! Hannah is my fav anti MLM content creator. She’s so smart and classy. Even though she is critiquing the huns, she does it in a kind way. I think of her as the thinking person’s anti MLMer. Lol
This right from the beginning is why I love your commentary so much is because I truly believe you don’t talk about all this from a negative person. You actually seem genuine and kind when you are talking. I love that you never personality attack anyone but are actually going after the companies themselves .
Not gonna lie, the person who clicked on the FB link and had her contact info shared is not just an MLM strategy. I clicked on a link for a product advertised on FB that I was interested in, and clicked back out without filling anything out and started getting texts about product promo's and discounts a few days later. The product is not sold through recruiters, and not an MLM. I say all this just to encourage being careful what links you click on when you are on FB.
Absolutely! I did this on Instagram. I saw a product I liked, however I never felt I saw the full range of products/the products that were actually advertised. Ultimately, I didn’t purchase anything. I receive daily emails using my Instagram name & asking if Im sure I won’t make a purchase. Welp…now Im 100% I won’t make a purchase.
Health and fitness coach here! I have a current client that was previously a beach body coach and come to me because she wasn’t seeing any changes anymore. We’ve had to do lots of mindset work in regards to nutrition because she was still replacing a meal with a shake and having another shake thing from beach body some other time in the day and was saying she was super hungry. And we’ve had to do some work getting her not to be afraid of having carbs at dinner! It’s really a disservice what these “health” MLMs promote and hammer into the brains of their followers. I say if you need a protein shake to increase protein in your day then add a shake but never as a meal!
I once had an MLM hun try to recruit me. She played the whole game and read me the same script. I politely declined, then followed it up with, “Thank you for thinking of me though,” only for her to say, “Okay. Well, when you are ready to take it seriously, let me know.” Ouch! 🤕
@@HannahAlonzo absolutely! Thank you for doing what you do. It's so informative for people out there on the fence or being introduced into an MLM. I've got a Mary Kay hun who's basically stalking me at this point. Ha!
Hannah: “Girl, if I had 3 specialists working on me, my skin would be glowing too.” Me: “it’s……it’s not glowing now? 😳” But FR, you have gorgeous skin and I love it.
Hannah is making 100000x more money "hating on women" and "being the worst" than 99.9% of monat huns. I would argue that this content uplifts women by giving us warnings and information about SCAMS
Wait. If it's public why does that mean someone doesn't have the right to see or view it fallowing or not? Doesn't that go against the meaning of it being public?
@I'm So Tired thank you so much for such a lengthy responce, I was genuinely courious as to a different perspective. Ill have to take time later to fully read and think on this, just wanted to stop a sec and say thanks
So annoying! As a personal trainer I NEVER recommend meal replacement. I always refer clients to a dietician for that. I will barely put my clients into a deficit unless they’re severely overweight and working out is incredibly difficult for them to burn calories. YIKES!
Yes!! The Ad gathering info from Facebook when you click it!!!! I worked for a hearing aid company (one of the biggest scams of all, ask me why, ugh) anyway, in a meeting, the PR rep, they discussed this so when the elderly clicked on it, the ad would get their information and others in the company would need to make at least 10 calls a day from FB ads... don't click!!
I sent this one in and clicked because my anti MLM self just had to know which cult she was in based on her shady reeks 😂 🤦🏼♀️ the crazy thing is the text from her came weeks later
I rarely comment but am listening to this while I’m working, as soon as I heard Monat and Indy photographer, I immediately knew who this was going to be. I was into the photography scene for a while and it got infiltrated by Monat. A large handful of the popular female photographers started moving over to Monat and this was quite a while ago so Monat was not popular yet. And as someone who has been anti-MLM, I had to unfollow them all. It was all they started to post about and they were concentrating on recruiting. It was sad to see because they were all talented. But professional photography has had a massive undercutting with the advancement and accessibility of technology that everyday people can have. It was becoming harder to make an income for many.
I would love to see you do a video on the connection between narcissitic personalities and becominging an MLM rep! Girl! I have been down the rabbit hole of researching narcissism because of some difficult friends I had to cut out of my life. And then I found your channel and there are SOOOO many of the same traits. Even a lot of the language is the same, like love bombing. One of the people I had to cut ties to was an Arbonne rep, I actually emailed you a horror story about it. But my mind is being blown at how many cross threads there are between these two things, Narcs and MLM reps. Kinda one in the same!
Hannah you are providing a helpful service. My Nana when she was in this world loved to shop, she has "The Room" full of all kinds of goodies she had bought mainly as gifts for people. But it was rather out of control to the point that even she didn't know what exactly was in The Room. I met another elderly lady who was similar, actually worse as her buying habit had taken over a floor of her home. If either of these women had met an MLM pusher, well I dread to think what the outcome would have looked like. SO THANK YOU HANNAH YOU DOING STERLING WORK HERE ! All the best from Poppey 🇬🇧
This is a late comment, but: I also noticed the Monet woman was complaining that she had to miss her kid's milestones because her job took her outside. First of all: most people don't have to do their jobs the way she described. She has an unusual job, and she knew what it entailed. All jobs have downsides, and if you can't handle those downsides, find an alternative or a new job. Secondly and most importantly: She DID find an alternative. She mentions quickly in the video that she switched to studio photography. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH MONET? She could have switched without an MLM. She got her "freedom" through an entirely unrelated business decision, and it feels very manipulative that she's implying Monet was the sole reason.
I find it so interesting that the majority of the clips I’ve been seeing are MLM reps defending their “business” or “opportunity” from being a scam. If so many of them take the time to address it/rage about it, you know it’s becoming the norm. Side note- in what other profession do you ever have to give a disclaimer that it’s not a scam?! Love what you and other anti-MLM creators are doing!
Crying hun: "If you're passionate about it, if you're passionate about helping other people, and passionate about making a change for your life..." Passive aggressive message: If you're not in Monat, then you're not passionate about helping other people or making a change in your life. Got it. Also, these sobbing videos give me major second-hand embarrassment 😬🤦♀️
33:39 I wholeheartedly agree with you on this. The crying was just screaming crocodile tears. I’m a photographer by trade. Granted I live in Virginia and not Indiana, so we tend to have more mild weather here, but either way. I schedule AROUND my children’s events. I did that for 12 years when I worked EMS, because I had no choice. But when you’re a freelance photographer, which it sounds like she was, you make your own schedule without having to suck people into a scammy business model.
Zeke will improve the quality of life of more people than all MLMs combined, and would also work as a better antidepressant than any of their supplements (would still recommend a combination of real meds plus therapy PLUS cat videos to maximise results)
I am a nutritionist (studied for 4 years at university to get my degree in nutrition) and I definitely agree that I would not feel comfortable suggesting anyone replace a full meal (let alone two full meals) with a 160cal shake. This would be part of a snack alongside something like a banana in my opinion.
just when I thought you couldn't be more eloquent and articulate, you go ahead and make this video!! Thank you for covering the emotional manipulation as it relates to kids. its so unfair and ....she's so wrong.😮
I love that the photographer that says it’s all possible because of Monat but then at the end of her video explains that she still shoots and loves shooting but now she’s taken it indoors. If she wanted to enjoy the sunshine and shoot all year round couldn’t she have just cut out Monat and just offered indoor photography anyway? Surely that would have provided her way more flexibility with her work hours and a much better income than with Monat. I’m not seeing any logic here but that’s what happens when you’re sucked into an MLM, it’s so cult like and everything good in life is suddenly all because of them.
I had a friend on Instagram that messaged me because I always view her stories and I should be interested in her products that she's selling. First of all, I view every stories that are available and second of all I don't comment on it or I just skip it lol. So now I make it a point to just avoid opening her stories.
Omg. I just realized I've been glued to your channel for about 4 hours now. Not easy to do ( I get distracted pretty easily lol). Keep up the work you do because there are countless people STILL joining MLMs. I don't understand how people are still joining when there is an overabundance of evidence proving how horrible they are. Anyway, thank you!
I just finished up a bachelors in business admin, and this last semester I took an experimental class in business data analytics. There’s a lot of terrifying stuff happening with our data, and no company has clean hands, but Facebook is truly one of the worst.
I can’t believe the Herbalife woman has been selling for 10 years! That’s a very long time. If she realizes she has sold stuff for a crappy mlm for ten years then I imagine she would be defensive. I would be so upset if I wasted 10 years with Herbalife. Denial makes you feel much better about the situation.
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I'm pretty sure those 1.8 million views are from me lol. I stream your content while driving to clients and the amount of time they say their own business is so cringe. They are sales people.
As an actual business owner, it's a complete lie. It's just sad because some of these girls work so hard, they could be using that energy for actual success. I wish I could hire some of these women just for the sheer amount of hard work they put in. Just saddens me because it's most likely for nothing.
I truly dislike how she says, "hating on something a woman does to provide for her children." What about the other children? Children of those parent who you BEG to buy a product pack even though they can barely afford to feed their kids.
That is so true...
Yeah these are people telling other to just put the starter pack on a credit card because if you can't afford the pack immediately you need it the most
What about their own children? We've seen before how the kids of MLM huns don't get their full attention because their parents are literally glued to their screen trying to get new recruits and, sadly, are usually the ones who get the brunt of their parent's frustrations.
I don't remember where, but I remember seeing this one video of a hun trying to record a video with their children crying for them in the background and instead of comforting the child, she yelled at them to shut up because she was working. Another was in an MLM group zoom call, where a hun was listening and their kid was trying to get her attention and she kept pushing them away, seemed like she scolded them, and when the kid continued she looked so angry as she turned off the camera and muted. When she turned it back up, the kid was nowhere in sight.
@@katzcat8181
To add to that, Deanna Mims read a horror story from the child of a high ranking MLM mom.
They detail how distant she was even when she was physically there, listening to her shouting at her downlines in the other room for hours while locking them out, taking her frustrations out on them, posing for film crews in rented mansions and rented cars that weren't even big enough for the family, having to act out wholesome family activities for the camera that they never did in real life and being very confused by the whole spectacle.
The entire thing just seems so sad and unnecessary.
A child would be perfectly happy to rely on their mom being home every day at 4 o'clock. Eating dinner together, getting a bath, reading a bedtime story together.
There's nothing wrong with that at all
@@yeahreally9185
I find reliability better than mere physical presence
That one woman crying because she had to work on nice days is one of the most privileged things I’ve ever heard, most people have to work on nice and bad days and have never seen an Apple orchard
I know lol "I couldn't even take my kids to the apple orcharrrrd 😩" like that's a typical affordable thing all families do
@@emory5533 what about the people who WORK at the Apple orchard on nice days , they’re horrible parents too?
@@kadeelacayo4806 yes, they're the worst! They should join Monat so that instead of working at the apple orchard, they could spend their free time there 😏😂
It's giving me..... amber heard 😬😬🤣🤣
Agreed. That was over the top. Also, is she the most in demand photographer in all of Indiana?? She worked every day at sunset?? Stop. 🙄
The girl in clip 8: "Groceries are so expensive right now!"
Me watching in 2024: "Girl just you wait"
I don't know whether to laugh or cry about this lol
One of the saddest things to me about these videos they post is how unprofessional it is. They call themselves business owners but they treat their profiles and business accounts like teens in high school trying to be influencers. This just isn't how you conduct yourself to look like a professional, qualified competent professional.
100% my thoughts also
So true. Small business owners aren’t focusing on being relatable and showing off their family and what they made for breakfast. I own a small business where I sell handmade jewelry. I focus on product lines and new collections not on morning routine… it’s just weird…
Yes! It is surprising that anyone over 13 could see these juvenile performances as persuasive. I am appalled every time by the jargonism and use of filler words. They talk and talk without saying anything. All the videos combined could be summarized in 3 sentences.
AMEN! Very well said.
@@Komandarin I think it's appealing specifically to those who don't want to work. Because what these huns do really doesn't look like working (of course they don't show potential future downlines all the cold messaging and convincing/tricking/bribing they have to do) so it appeals to people who hate having to act professional for work. And then if those people do fall for the pitch completely and join, they may be working their ass off doing useless personal development and obsessively trying to recruit but at least they still don't have to worry about acting professional
Hannah, I so admire your refusal to be baited by these childish women. The first gal is trying SO hard to be provocative, but your calm and compassionate dissection of her nonsense is marvelous. She is really bothered-and sadly, since I lack your level of chill, I love to see it.
It kind of breaks my heart because she genuinely believes this and it's further proof on how they are so brainwashed they can't see there are actual women trying to back them and cheer for them and they can't even see it.
And she even says do your research and not from people who never tried it. Lady I know meth is bad for me without me needing to try it first.
@@fc7307 😂 hard to argue with that!
Came to the comments to say the exact same thing. These women are nasty and attention seeking.
She reminds me of Dave Hollis in her tone.
The lady who is “literally thinking” and being “totally honest” is neither thinking nor being honest, IMO. Literally.
11:35 I agree with all your points and may I add - having a diagnosed ”mental issue” does not automatically make you a weird or bad person. Not at all. I’m getting sick of hearing this insult, it’s getting old.
Completely agree!
Oh my god I was appalled hearing her say that
Idiots abound. Diagnosed myself and not ashamed. Why people feel the need to tear down others is beyond me.
1.8 million views in a month when you had 10k subscribers not that long ago? Girl, brag all you want. You have more than earned it. ♥️
Wow, thank you so much! It's pretty awesome to see these videos performing so well!
GET IT, GIRL!
Tiniest violin for that photographer woman. How did she ever survive? Why is life so cruel
I swear I've said this 1,000,000,000 times but it never stops boggling my mind how many people use this logic and how broken it is, so I'll say it _yet again:_
researching, discussing, criticizing and exposing certain subjects *does not mean you're a fan or approve.*
This is literally no different than saying people who study and prosecute crime either as professors, sociologists, forensic scientists, psychologists/psychiatrists, law enforcement or legal personnel, it must mean they actually *love* crime -- like does that logic make any sense to anyone????
_"Oh you're arresting me for fraud? lol why are you so obsessed with me, you're my no. 1 fan!"_ Like, no Cynthia, stop flattering yourself, I'm literally offended by your actions and how they harm others, that's why I'm shining a light on them.
Damn, I love analogies. Nice
Also, how telling is it that most people who watch her are anti-mlm researchers and not her cult frie-... I mean prey... I mean target demogra-... I mean real fans
You must be confused…
Mlm huns are allergic to critical thinking-so how dare you say that they should apply it to their daily lives!!
😂❤
Omggg the monat photographer lady really did tooooo much for me. If you’re a photographer who is THAT booked you could probably afford to choose your shoot dates. I work in nightlife and I have a bunch of photographer friends. It’s an independent gig job. You literally choose when you do and don’t work lol
She doesn't sound as if she knew how to run her business. Now she can cry and make reels at her kid's games and still not be present, which IMO is worse than not being there.
@@maryeckel9682 She could schedule around important events ahead of time. For example, she can decide she will not book any shoots during her son's birthday. She lacks time management.
I was thinking similar lines. If she is that booked, she has every power to choose her own shoot dates. Not a parent, but I doubt that kids actually care that much about whether their parent(s) is at the game, any more than having their parents be present for support when needed. I mean what's the point of having your mom around at the game/birthday/some life milestone, if she's on the phone the whole time anyway?
An education from Sarah Hill herself is nothing but useless.
@@williamho2940 yeah, I'd say most kids care and WANT their parents to be present (maybe not as often once they get closer to their teen years, lol), but physically being there is only half of that "presence". More than anything they want to know you're paying attention!
The MLM-er definitely didn't think of her pitch too well lol.
The first video, where the lady said Hannah is “the worst kind of person” is seriously juxtaposed. You’re one of the most genuine, warm people and I simply can’t say enough good things about you.
That said, when my kids get mad at me and call me “the worst mom ever”, I simply laugh and tell them thank you, but that I didn’t have a speech prepared for that award. They fail to see the humor in it. 😂
Oh my gosh that's an EPIC response to your kids. I'm 100% stealing this in the future 😂
My daughter is soon approaching her teens…. I’m so gonna use that one 🤣
@@margingains2937 my youngest is 15 and he rolls his eyes so hard when I say this to him, I have to laugh. Brace yourself! The teen years ain’t for sissies!! 😂
She doesn't like the truth. I enjoy your videos. Keep it up. Thank you. Telling the truth. It the best medicine. Love your work.
Totally stealing your response 😂😂
Dietitian here 🙋🏼♀️ those shakes are not enough to be used as meal replacements. I never recommend shakes as replacements unless I have a patient who has been losing weight related to things like skipping meals or early satiety BECAUSE they don’t make you feel full and satisfied.
It is also important to consider gastric emptying rate - how fast your stomach releases food into your intestines. Liquids go very fast which does not help you feel full. Also, your stomach tells your brain you’re full when it gets stretched. If you are having a shake, that’s not going to stretch your stomach much. Unless you have like 64 oz or something ridiculous lol at that point, eat a meal!
I should submit a horror story because, unfortunately, working in a hospital has exposed me to all sorts of MLM products like this. I had a patient dying of covid want to use juice plus supplements instead of the IV meds and vitamins/minerals specifically formulated for their body. It’s insane!! Thank you for all you do!! Love your videos ☺️
Did you ever submit a story about that? If so, I hope she reads it. I feel like that would be important information for others to hear.💛
Precisely. I drink Ensure as a way to make sure I'm getting enough BECAUSE I don't eat enough. I'm already underweight, but I get full very quickly and feel full for long periods of time. Drinking shakes and things don't make me feel full for that long, so I can still eat when I eventually do feel hungry. Shakes and drinks like Ensure are made to be supplements, not replacements. There are not enough calories to make sure you're getting enough nutrition.
I’ve used shakes (not MLM shakes) as part of my ED recovery process while
I was transitioning to eating proper meals. Real food is so much more satisfying.
When my mom became worse with alzheimers, her doctor told my dad to give mom Ensure because she would not eat enough solid food.
Hunbot:"THIS IS NOT A SCAM!"
Me: "Why would you have to assure me it's not a scam if it wasn't a scam?".🤔
Reminds me of toxic people who say things like:
I'm so trustworthy.
I make so much money.
People say I'm so much fun!
I am a good person.
I help people all the time!
Etc, etc. etc.
Healthy people don't do self proclamations.
Toxic people do!
@@starlingswallow literally the MLM version of "I am a Nice Guy"
The lady crying about not having to work on sunny days turned my stomach. I understand wanting to be there for family events, but all I heard was "I used to be a terrible parent because I had to work but now I'm a good mom because I can be at his games". It's not like she was making promises and not following through. She had a job with an atypical, but predictable, schedule. My father was in heavy construction and also had an atypical schedule. Depending on the current job he might be working a graveyard or split-shift, working overnight on the weekend, living away from home Monday through Thursday, or in another state for 3-6 months. When he could attend things, he attended them, when he couldn't, we understood why, and we did our best to schedule things we could control to work with his schedule. The implication he was a bad parent because (for example) he missed my 13th birthday because he was working in another state at the time is insulting.
That was the fakest crying , too
If you watch enough of these huns going live, you will see plenty of them saying "Not now, Mommy's working." or, "come get this kid, I'm going live." I saw one where a little boy went to his mother crying because he found his goldfish dead. She eventually went to deal with it and later resumed her call, laughing about flushing Goldy down the toilet. I was thinking, "B****! You'd be a better mother if you worked at Subway! And you'd make more money!"
yes its the “im crying because im so grateful for being able to pay attention to my kids by being on my phone 24/7 and misleading people instead of working a credible job” LOL
I honestly think she's crying but for the wrong reasons- it may be her realizing she actually misses her old work because being a rep in the highest position is definitely not all fun and sunshine as they like to paint it, if reps are nasty to their downlines, they are awful to each other, but I think she's too brainwashed to notice what she actually misses and it has become so natural to her to turn her pain into a pitch. I can't help but feel bad for her.
@@katzcat8181 everytime I feel bad for her I picture her telling her downline that she promised to guide to wealth to "figure it out".
I've been in sales for over 12 years. Not once have I had to defend my company this hard or have someone ask me if what I do is a scam. This behavior is not normal! And she wonders why there's an audience for antimlm content...
Registered dietitian here 🙋🏻♀️ and I would absolutely never recommend any meal be 160 calories… let alone 2 meals per day 🥴 That is insane and can promote disordered eating
Also, looooove your channel! Anti-MLM content has fascinated me for so long and your channel is one of my favorites!! Keep it up girl 🥰
Thank you for this!!
I wonder what the 'slimfast' version of 2 shakes a day and real meal comes to?
shakes 190-220 cal depend on flavour and meal expected to be 500 cal so combined 900-100 cal a day
The whole time during that clip I was sitting here thinking, that type of behavior has got to be causing people to develop eating disorders. Thanks for the confirmation!!
@@peridot_craponite_earrings it definitely does which is extremely sad because once you develop an eating disorder, it sort of stays with you in one way or another for the rest of your life. Though the weight loss causing EDs involve either removing something from the body or not putting something into the body rather than taking a substance, EDs are very similar to addiction
@@dahliacheung6020 Unfortunately I know all too well about those types of things always sticking with you. ☹️ I was also thinking about the intense pressure put on them to live up to the hype killing their better judgement about their health for future situations as well.
As someone in the tech industry allow me to explain how she could have gotten the phone number:
1. Actually obtaining the phone number is pretty easy through Facebook. Someone people have their phone number accessible through their contact details. Others have messages and calls from Facebook directly forwarded to their number. There are also countless places where one could do a reverse username search and find it.
2. Figuring out who clicked the link is a lot more difficult. Currently Facebook does not have analytics for who specifically clicked on a link. Now if you react to a post they could figure you out that way. The other way is if they are using a trackable link with hidden input fields. These fields could grab things like your username, IP address, etc and give that information back to the person who wanted your info. This is honestly a decently complex thing and not something Google forms offers. So, if the mlm Huns are using it, they are evolving.
Overall, yes it is possible. Yes it is extremely unethical. And yes it is complex.
Woof... that's terrifying lol
Wow!…also dying laughing at “they’ve evolved” lol
Thank you! This was really bugging me, with the main question being "how tf will they know who clicked on a link".
I literally was hospitalized after Herbalife. For 3 weeks. With multiple health problems and a nutritionist who was assigned to me during this read and did her research on Herbalife, and literally called it a "chemical sh*tstorm". No wonder all of my organs were inflamed and shutting down. Never, ever again!
If I were in an alternate timeline and I was considering joining an mlm, and I saw the person recruiting me posting tons of videos about people hating them for being in an mlm, I 100% would not be enticed.
right? Can you say red flag???
Hannah: "oh no, my necklace is off center! I bet that was so annoying!"
Me, watching this in my pj's: "oh, she has a necklace on!"
😂😂😂 I appreciate your faith in our attention to detail.
Hahahaha it's one of those things that would drive me CRAZY 😂
It’s 3 pm here , I have insomnia and adhd and was up until 5 , slept until 7 took my kids to school came back and just woke up again . I’m still in my pajamas and haven’t even brushed my teeth
Me, listening while I clean the house. “You guys are watching the screen?”
@@FawnieFox same🤣🤣
I don’t wear clothes in my room, I should probably stay out of this convo
OMG, the sob story of the photographer was SO manipulative. I mean, you can have much worse jobs than being a photographer. Of course you can be miserable at any job, but the way she cries about having to take pictures on sun down, is just so over the top. I get that she feels like she missed out on a lot, but saying "now I get to enjoy sunny days" sounded like she wasn't able to leave the house before.
I have many friends who are photographers, and I've never heard anyone complains about having to work on a bright day.
I would never book her if she hated her job that much
This woman is also at the VERY TOP of the pyramid scheme.
Also...she chose that profession, right?
@@shayewitman9607 Also... She mentioned that now she only do studio shots, which has nothing to do with MLM. A pro photographer has so many options for "time freedom", especially if you're a freelancer. I mean, you can be a wedding photographer, journalism photographer or like she mentioned - have a studio.
The privilege was ASTOUNDING
That rep who got the lady's phone number without her having filled out the form - I swear that type of data scraping is illegal.
Only in some jurisdictions unfortunately:/
As a former photographer for 20+ years, I felt what that one girl was saying. I missed out on a lot of playground days and nice weekends with my boys. BUT as a former YL silver, it's no comparison to the amount of time I spent ignoring my kids for a "business call" or being glued to my phone refreshing my app to see if my ogv was going up, or literally obsessed with "networking" on Facebook and trying to recruit. That was worse.
she gives me "why do you follow me if you don't already own my book" dave hollis vibes
first thing I thought of
Good to know we all run in the same circle
I thought the same dang thing lol 😅
@@lizajane2971 , he's her ex husband and he's just as bad as she is.
@@lizajane2971 omg how much amazing terribleness have you missed....
I would like to point out the fact that the photogropher stated that she was able to move her (actual) business to indoors settings so that she could start attending her child's games.
Sooo.... she outed herself that it wasn't actually the MLM that provided her that opportunity. And I would argue that she probably could have achieved that even if she weren't involved with MLM.
Yes!!!
Yay we love a sponsorship for Hannah! Looove watching your content!
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I came to say the same!
Yay!!! Me too!!! Let’s gooooooo!
I think Zeke wants to be an Anti-MLM Mascot.😸😻
“If you make a living or waste all your timing hating on something that a woman does to provide for her children, and make content based on it, you’re actually the worst type of person.”
Oh, you mean like…. Shaming “Corporate jobs” and “9-5s”? For instance? 🤔
hit the nail on the head...
She’s not making money and can’t admit it to herself. MLMs need to go down.
as a photographer the clip of the photographer pissed me off! I am so blessed to own my own business and I very rarely have to miss games as I charge my worth so I don't have to work every night! so clearly she probably wasn't the best business owner either or she could control her schedule completely!
But also, I’ll bet you anything she’s at the game on her phone the whole time. If she’s a photographer, she might schedule shoots out weeks or months in advance (especially if she does weddings or engagements or pregnancy shoots). A kids’ sport schedule might not be out yet, and yeah, that sucks. But being there in body only is a choice. Unless you’re in an MLM. Then it’s non-negotiable.
@@TheRonnieaj i have Two boys in travel baseball and school ball and I figure it out to be there for my kids does it suck for sure but I also price myself where I definitely don't have to take opportunity of EVERY sunset that exaggeration at its finest! I run a small business to be there for my children! And yes I am sure you are right I bet her face is in her phone now that she is there 😉
She’s at the VERY TOP of the pyramid scheme so she is most definitely on her phone the entire game!
How I got into Doterra - by being shamed for medicating my ADHD child - not by Doterra reps, but by society, I was desperate for 'natural' ways to help her. It took me so long to realize medicine. he best thing for her. She was seven and it was the first time I had ever had a conversation with her that she initiated. MLM's are another way for rich people to make money on the insecurities of women trying to do it all the best possible way for themselves for their families.
that first lady getting all upset for people tearing down her lifestyle and business, well guess what. people don't tear down individuals that work at sephora, someone that works at a restaurant, people that work as a therapist... so like, maybe look inward and try and figure out WHY people are so invested in commentary about YOUR "business opportunity"
I mean, Karens do, but luckily they are in minority. Although I would love to see Karen/MLM-hun Venn diagram
That arbonne rep said “you can save money on groceries by eating less.”
Also, you’re right Hannah. Arbonne shakes are probably not a budget friendly option.
$10 a day? My monthly budget for groceries is $200 and I manage 30 - 31 days of complete meals on that, even in this economy.
In this economy. I just became my grandparents. Oy.
😂😂😂 she really thought she did something there. Like no shit Sherlock I never thought that eating less food would mean I buy less food! 😂
please she's such a smooth brain 😭
It’s also so weird that she is this bothered by strangers following her / watching her story because her job is to TALK to strangers! I’m sure her mutuals share her content so when their followers go to her and see a story like THAT I’m sure it would make some people feel bad/uncomfortable. Like you’re a content creator!! A bunch of strangers are watching you everyday!!! Don’t like it?? Leave the internet! Oh wait, you can’t… then you wouldn’t have a job.
So true! People that have public accounts and then accuse people who watch as being stalkers are one of my top pet peeves of the internet. I legitimately had a stalker. Guess what, ALL MY SOCIAL MEDIA IS PRIVATE! Lol. Unreal, entitled and just plain old gross mindset these attention hungry people have.
'groceries are so expensive, thank GOD i dont eat' 😂😂
MLMer: go to the source to get information on MLMs!
Anti-MLMer: *pulls out income disclosure statements from the past x years*
MLMer: no, not like that!
I just love how you keep your commentary clean, logical, and focused on topic, instead of resorting to personal attacks and drama. Thank you!
Same 👌🏼
It has been amazing to see your channel grow at the rate it is!! I also went to college for teaching and I can see a lot of skills transferred from that into how you make your videos. You are so clear and well spoken and I think that is a huge reason people gravitate to you, your videos are easy and enjoyable to learn from. I think what you're doing is very valuable and I am here for all of it!!
Awww thank you!!
Beautifully said! I agree. Hannah is a very good teacher. She is obviously very knowledgeable, but also SOOOO good at explaining things. It’s the difference between knowing a lot, and actually being a quality educator.
Ok I see you Scentbird sponsoring the anti-MLM content! Congrats on the sponsor Hannah, great video as always.
It’s one of my main internet peeves with people who claim their viewers are stalkers when they have a public social media account. There are privacy controls for a reason. As someone who has had a genuine stalker, my social media is zipped right up, except for the random things I want others to see. I’m so over the entitled, attention hungry people with public accounts that play victim for no reason.
Hannah! Would you consider uploading your audio into a podcast format? I think your MLM horror stories in particular! I find myself listening to your videos while cleaning, driving(phone down of course) and while crafting! Also even at work. I’d love to be able to have your videos on a podcast app so I can close my phone and put it In my pocket! ❤️
I would absolutely love this, too! Her content would transfer so well into a podcast.
Subscribe to UA-cam premium, it’s $15 a month. You can continue to pay the video while it’s closed
Yes yes yes
Yes yes yes 💯💯💯
THIS!!!!!
When I tell you my jaw HIT THE FLOOR with that woman talking about saving money by drinking protein shakes. So unhealthy and so manipulative!!
I don't even care about MLM or Anti MLM. Hannah's channel is just one of the non stressful content I listen to while at work that unlike NEWS, I can listen to for hours without being upset. So I listen to full video and like the ones I watch. (sorry I mainly only subscribe to graphic design tutorials) thanks Hannah for the audio, while i work.
What I love about your commentary is the throughout breakdown, that makes us, viewers, understand how you are debunking the stories those people are trying to use to manipulate!!
Thanks for your commentary! Keep it up, it’s so fascinating your approach is very psychological and I love it!
Zeke and his crinkle ball will always and forever to be "excused" Although, no excuse needed! We love a kitty cameo! 😺
As a mom, the crying one is really heartbreaking. On this, the day after "Mother's Day" in the US, we are reminded of how our capitalism and materialism has affected parents, especially mothers. We offer no health care, no paid parental leave, we do not value mental health nor are we kind to people who struggle. This is what makes many people, especially women, so vulnerable to MLMs. That's my opinion. It is so sad.
This is why I don’t add my phone number to social media. Thats sketchy AF and I bet a lot of scam companies use this approach too and is how they send you those scammy text messages.
After this happened I checked and my phone number is not linked!
I suspect it's also very much illegal in some parts of the world to use contact info acquired that way... or to acquire it that way in the first place
I follow a Monat rep who SWEARS up and down that her hair has grown so much because of monat but has also said she quit bleaching and using heat on her hair at the same time she started monat, but YES it’s all thanks to the products🙄🤦♀️
How do you not have at LEAST 100k subs? You’re so well spoken and in depth with your anti-MLM commentary. You are extremely thorough and thought out with your responses and education on these sometimes elusive schemes.
Keep doing what you’re doing, there is nothing but success and genuine change in the anti-MLM community with you as a pillar. ♥️
I've always hated the ideal of "if you talk about what I'm doing wrong your stalking/inlovewithme/myfan/etc"
Literally people are not weird for hating a scam. It's not about you. It's your "job"
When MLM'ers start trying to calling the Anti-MLM crowd, you know its making a difference out there.
Congrats on the sponsorship (and for almost 39k!!!)
I personally can't wear fragrances because of sensitivity to scents and my work in archives but so happy for you and hope others can jump on the deal
NGL, I cried happy tears too when we had our first warm and sunny day here. But that's because I have seasonal depression and I can literally feel the weariness leave my body.
Also, I had a giggle at the shake hun. "You're the best Lindsay!" 🙂
i can relate, i have mdd and it gets extra bad when it's hot and sunny. the thing is, i live in texas :')) so i definitely get very happy when it's cool outside
What makes me laugh is her taking even more time to go through her stories and look at who watches them and see if they follow her or not. That takes even more time 🤣
Edit: Just got to the part where you said the exact same thing 🤣🤣
My local mall held a child entrepreneur event. Most stands were crafts, a few baked good, even homemade catnip! But one was Doterra… even the kids aren’t safe from the disgusting oily huns.
You're absolutely right about the story watching scenario. They look at who watches their stories because anybody who views their stories is a potential recruit. I feel like I saw a zoom call where this was explained by one of the MLM leaders to their downline.
That makes sense. It also checks out why her “I could just go private” thing was an empty threat. She wouldn’t go private because it’d reduce her chances of recruiting more and more people
They are mad about anti mlm creators but not mad that people in mlms take advantage of vulnerable women… who’s hating and tearing down women again?
Before i watch this, wanted to come on here to say that i was really unmotivated to cook, but now that this came out and i can cook and listen this, i'm super motivated again 😂! Thanks
Luv how the first woman is flopping her pony tail around - talks like a 15 yr. old teen. Such a business woman . You go girl !
To clarify on what I clicked after reading a few comments… I did not click any ad. She had a promoted reel and I immediately cringed and checked out her Facebook page to see if it was obvious which MLM she was in. It was not so I clicked her “link in bio” and it took me to those MLM forms they create. Still zero info on what MLM she was in. So I exited. Weeks later got the text!
I have a completely private Facebook and no phone number linked, so I believe she was able to get my phone number through the site she had created.
I love it when I’m notified that you posted a video. Your tone and cadence are so soothing and relaxing. I am truly hoping that you’ll start branching out the strange and spooky; it would be so nice to hear you telling those stories. Your so calming I’m pretty sure you could tell the creepiest of stories and I’d be like “oh, that’s nice”. Keep up the great work!
Shake girly at the end really fighting the acid reflux 😂
Why do Monat Huns obsessively play with their hair? Have they been trained to? Maybe to show their glorious hair due to the shampoo? It’s just weird.
Right?! I was thinking about that watching it.
They did it in high school; old habits die hard; popular mean girl habit.
It's all rough and the texture soothes them 😜
Or maybe they have to regularly shake out the itchiness, dandruff, lice and fallen out hair....
Sorry, just joking
Sort of
The sneaky phone number grab would almost certainly be illegal in Australia under the Privacy Act. You have to be upfront in collecting personal information and allow people to consent to the collection. I wonder if there are similar laws in the US? Perhaps at a state level not federal?
Hannah it cannot be overstated: every video you keep outdoing yourself with your succinct analysis. Your take on the “vision” piece and everything else - chef’s kiss. Truly hate it when your videos end I get really upset LOL can’t wait for the next video!
Hahaha I came back to say that the lady talking about her "fraud" products was freaking hilarious! The cheekiness was pretty damn fun to watch 😅
You just popped up on my feed one day. I've never really watch anti-mlm stuff. And I'm SO GLAD you were the first creator that popped up. I started looking into the other anti-mlm channels. But you are 100% my favorite. You're so logical, and calm, and smart af. I literally put you as someone I look up to in a workshop the other day. Keep doing what you're doing 👏👏👏
Yes! Hannah is my fav anti MLM content creator. She’s so smart and classy. Even though she is critiquing the huns, she does it in a kind way. I think of her as the thinking person’s anti MLMer. Lol
This right from the beginning is why I love your commentary so much is because I truly believe you don’t talk about all this from a negative person. You actually seem genuine and kind when you are talking.
I love that you never personality attack anyone but are actually going after the companies themselves .
Not gonna lie, the person who clicked on the FB link and had her contact info shared is not just an MLM strategy. I clicked on a link for a product advertised on FB that I was interested in, and clicked back out without filling anything out and started getting texts about product promo's and discounts a few days later. The product is not sold through recruiters, and not an MLM. I say all this just to encourage being careful what links you click on when you are on FB.
Absolutely! I did this on Instagram. I saw a product I liked, however I never felt I saw the full range of products/the products that were actually advertised. Ultimately, I didn’t purchase anything. I receive daily emails using my Instagram name & asking if Im sure I won’t make a purchase. Welp…now Im 100% I won’t make a purchase.
Health and fitness coach here! I have a current client that was previously a beach body coach and come to me because she wasn’t seeing any changes anymore. We’ve had to do lots of mindset work in regards to nutrition because she was still replacing a meal with a shake and having another shake thing from beach body some other time in the day and was saying she was super hungry. And we’ve had to do some work getting her not to be afraid of having carbs at dinner! It’s really a disservice what these “health” MLMs promote and hammer into the brains of their followers. I say if you need a protein shake to increase protein in your day then add a shake but never as a meal!
I once had an MLM hun try to recruit me. She played the whole game and read me the same script. I politely declined, then followed it up with, “Thank you for thinking of me though,” only for her to say, “Okay. Well, when you are ready to take it seriously, let me know.” Ouch! 🤕
Yay! New video pops up as I'm literally watching another of your videos. ❤
Woohoo!! Thanks for watching!
@@HannahAlonzo absolutely! Thank you for doing what you do. It's so informative for people out there on the fence or being introduced into an MLM. I've got a Mary Kay hun who's basically stalking me at this point. Ha!
@@HannahAlonzo BTW please tell me your cats are named after the Cowboys Zeke Elliot & (ex) Amari Cooper?
@@AGK1999FE me too! Ha!
Literally same 😂
Hannah: “Girl, if I had 3 specialists working on me, my skin would be glowing too.”
Me: “it’s……it’s not glowing now? 😳” But FR, you have gorgeous skin and I love it.
Hannah is making 100000x more money "hating on women" and "being the worst" than 99.9% of monat huns. I would argue that this content uplifts women by giving us warnings and information about SCAMS
Wait. If it's public why does that mean someone doesn't have the right to see or view it fallowing or not? Doesn't that go against the meaning of it being public?
@I'm So Tired thank you so much for such a lengthy responce, I was genuinely courious as to a different perspective. Ill have to take time later to fully read and think on this, just wanted to stop a sec and say thanks
Zeke close up is everything!!! 😻
So annoying! As a personal trainer I NEVER recommend meal replacement. I always refer clients to a dietician for that. I will barely put my clients into a deficit unless they’re severely overweight and working out is incredibly difficult for them to burn calories. YIKES!
Yes!! The Ad gathering info from Facebook when you click it!!!! I worked for a hearing aid company (one of the biggest scams of all, ask me why, ugh) anyway, in a meeting, the PR rep, they discussed this so when the elderly clicked on it, the ad would get their information and others in the company would need to make at least 10 calls a day from FB ads... don't click!!
I sent this one in and clicked because my anti MLM self just had to know which cult she was in based on her shady reeks 😂 🤦🏼♀️ the crazy thing is the text from her came weeks later
I rarely comment but am listening to this while I’m working, as soon as I heard Monat and Indy photographer, I immediately knew who this was going to be. I was into the photography scene for a while and it got infiltrated by Monat. A large handful of the popular female photographers started moving over to Monat and this was quite a while ago so Monat was not popular yet. And as someone who has been anti-MLM, I had to unfollow them all. It was all they started to post about and they were concentrating on recruiting. It was sad to see because they were all talented. But professional photography has had a massive undercutting with the advancement and accessibility of technology that everyday people can have. It was becoming harder to make an income for many.
I would love to see you do a video on the connection between narcissitic personalities and becominging an MLM rep! Girl! I have been down the rabbit hole of researching narcissism because of some difficult friends I had to cut out of my life. And then I found your channel and there are SOOOO many of the same traits. Even a lot of the language is the same, like love bombing. One of the people I had to cut ties to was an Arbonne rep, I actually emailed you a horror story about it. But my mind is being blown at how many cross threads there are between these two things, Narcs and MLM reps. Kinda one in the same!
Hi Hannah! I've never been involved with mlms, but I find anti-mlm content fascinating.
Hannah you are providing a helpful service.
My Nana when she was in this world loved to shop, she has "The Room" full of all kinds of goodies she had bought mainly as gifts for people.
But it was rather out of control to the point that even she didn't know what exactly was in The Room.
I met another elderly lady who was similar, actually worse as her buying habit had taken over a floor of her home.
If either of these women had met an MLM pusher, well I dread to think what the outcome would have looked like.
SO THANK YOU HANNAH YOU DOING STERLING WORK HERE !
All the best from Poppey 🇬🇧
Lol I was just thinking about how I wish you had a new video! Also congratulations on the sponsorship!!!
Yay! Thank you Kimberly!
This is a late comment, but:
I also noticed the Monet woman was complaining that she had to miss her kid's milestones because her job took her outside. First of all: most people don't have to do their jobs the way she described. She has an unusual job, and she knew what it entailed. All jobs have downsides, and if you can't handle those downsides, find an alternative or a new job.
Secondly and most importantly: She DID find an alternative. She mentions quickly in the video that she switched to studio photography. WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH MONET? She could have switched without an MLM. She got her "freedom" through an entirely unrelated business decision, and it feels very manipulative that she's implying Monet was the sole reason.
I will always be a fan of your approach and style! No matter what MLM reps/victims say, we have both logic and class on our side!
I find it so interesting that the majority of the clips I’ve been seeing are MLM reps defending their “business” or “opportunity” from being a scam. If so many of them take the time to address it/rage about it, you know it’s becoming the norm. Side note- in what other profession do you ever have to give a disclaimer that it’s not a scam?! Love what you and other anti-MLM creators are doing!
Crying hun: "If you're passionate about it, if you're passionate about helping other people, and passionate about making a change for your life..."
Passive aggressive message: If you're not in Monat, then you're not passionate about helping other people or making a change in your life.
Got it.
Also, these sobbing videos give me major second-hand embarrassment 😬🤦♀️
It's so gross and manipulative, really doesn't make me want to go anywhere near her downline.
33:39 I wholeheartedly agree with you on this. The crying was just screaming crocodile tears. I’m a photographer by trade. Granted I live in Virginia and not Indiana, so we tend to have more mild weather here, but either way. I schedule AROUND my children’s events. I did that for 12 years when I worked EMS, because I had no choice. But when you’re a freelance photographer, which it sounds like she was, you make your own schedule without having to suck people into a scammy business model.
Hun: shilling her scam supplements
Me: making kissy faces at your cat sniffing the camera
Priorities.
Zeke will improve the quality of life of more people than all MLMs combined, and would also work as a better antidepressant than any of their supplements (would still recommend a combination of real meds plus therapy PLUS cat videos to maximise results)
I am a nutritionist (studied for 4 years at university to get my degree in nutrition) and I definitely agree that I would not feel comfortable suggesting anyone replace a full meal (let alone two full meals) with a 160cal shake. This would be part of a snack alongside something like a banana in my opinion.
just when I thought you couldn't be more eloquent and articulate, you go ahead and make this video!! Thank you for covering the emotional manipulation as it relates to kids. its so unfair and ....she's so wrong.😮
12:41
The way she’s fluffing her ponytail the whole time 😂 Wouldn’t want your Monat hair to look flat. ☠️
I love that the photographer that says it’s all possible because of Monat but then at the end of her video explains that she still shoots and loves shooting but now she’s taken it indoors. If she wanted to enjoy the sunshine and shoot all year round couldn’t she have just cut out Monat and just offered indoor photography anyway? Surely that would have provided her way more flexibility with her work hours and a much better income than with Monat.
I’m not seeing any logic here but that’s what happens when you’re sucked into an MLM, it’s so cult like and everything good in life is suddenly all because of them.
I had a friend on Instagram that messaged me because I always view her stories and I should be interested in her products that she's selling. First of all, I view every stories that are available and second of all I don't comment on it or I just skip it lol. So now I make it a point to just avoid opening her stories.
I don't watch anyone's stories because I don't want to accidentally view a huns story and get a message like you did. 😂
@@TiffanyG8675309 smart 🤣
Omg. I just realized I've been glued to your channel for about 4 hours now. Not easy to do ( I get distracted pretty easily lol). Keep up the work you do because there are countless people STILL joining MLMs. I don't understand how people are still joining when there is an overabundance of evidence proving how horrible they are. Anyway, thank you!
Oooooo that first monat Hun was big mad. Bless her heart
I just finished up a bachelors in business admin, and this last semester I took an experimental class in business data analytics. There’s a lot of terrifying stuff happening with our data, and no company has clean hands, but Facebook is truly one of the worst.
I can’t believe the Herbalife woman has been selling for 10 years! That’s a very long time. If she realizes she has sold stuff for a crappy mlm for ten years then I imagine she would be defensive. I would be so upset if I wasted 10 years with Herbalife. Denial makes you feel much better about the situation.
The "Fraud Program" lady was actually really funny. I'd want to be her friend.