As an artist I appreciate the honesty when he's just like, "I really don't want to do this" and for a brief moment you can see him contemplating whether he should or not based on UA-cam responses, but then pulls through with the, "Naw. I'm done." Respect.
I have this tool, and I love how awesome it is to trace the proportions of a subject. It CAN be difficult to see some of the details to trace even with the filters on, but it's definitely a time saver and allows me to get on with the painting without spending so much time perfecting shape placement.
I'm the creator of the LUCY. This video had me dying, hilarious! You made some legitimate criticisms, this is a historical drawing tool, not as simple as some modern methods. But I did see you throw away the manual there, and it showed. Those filters that you loved peeling the paper off of, those will increase the contrast of the image, without any need for complex lighting. And proper use of a camera lucida is for the real quick basic outline, never use it for shading or for the finished drawing. It is just to get you started. But I genuinely enjoyed the video, thank you for reviewing my LUCY!
Also, it seems like being in a bright studio lit for video isn't optimal. Maybe the preferred way to use it is in a somewhat dimly lit room with a bright subject.
@@jones1618 Yes, that could be a factor. You don't necessarily what the studio to be dimly lit, but bright studio lights might be too much. Ideally you just want the normal comfortable light you should be using for art. The huge mistake he made was not using the optical filters. Putting in an optical filter instantly makes the image brighter and you can adjust the brightness as needed. Using the LUCY without the filters is like riding a mountain bike without using the gears.
These were for sale in comic books back in the day. I bought one as did a few of my fellow aspiring comic book artist friends. My High School Art teacher also had one that he used for portrait work. He never used it for the entire process, but just for outlines and composition. Coincidentally, my Army pal Troy Hudson voiced the commercial referenced in this video. 😊
Jazza: Draws a picture 3 times for an accurate representation, spends 5 months making chainmail armor, spends hours each day making videos for our entertainment, but he doesn't want to draw one more picture with the LUCY. That's how you can tell a product sucks. Holy guacamole that's alotta likes
He legit used it the wrong way.. compare how she looks through it at 2:06 to how Jazza used it at 4:18 . Using it correctly shows you a clearer picture and with less strain as you don't have to look down.
Hey jazza I have used a similar thing in art class, and you can set them up to be really useful! The 3 big factors are: 1. Have a strong head on light (like you figured out) 2. Reduce or turn off ambient light, like your overhead lighting, that really blurs the image. (Think that would make the biggest difference for you) 3. The ones we had were attached to tripods not that shaky rod Lucy uses. It's still a little awkward but much more comfortable and accurate! Would love to see you try it out again
I think that's his creed. We all know he challenges himself with ridiculous handicaps for the sake of a challenge, but if he reviews a gadget that's supposed to make the experience easier and it produces the same challenge as his usual antics, he basically tells you that training your skills as an artist is just the easier method.
I just got one for my daughter who is just starting to learn to draw. She loves it, as she can now get the the basic lines in proportion and place, then she moves away from it and does the rest by eye. the main thing you didn't do , if you want to use it as a tracing tool is have the subject the same distance from the prism as the paper. I don't think this is good for copying like your trying to do or the manufacture claim. But it is a great toll for laying down the basics of of the drawing to bring everything into scale. Shawnie's drawing has improved way more that 10 fold in a couple weeks and most seems to be relative scale. I don't think this would be much use to the freehand professional artist , but a great tool to improve basic skills without graph or grid techniques
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@@sunitkokate123 even worse is that his videos are actually about this,Ive seen him before,he says stuff like I’m sorry UA-cam fans but I have two hot girlfriends.Its hilarious because that drives away potential subscribers. Edit:I looked at his channel right after saying that and he has 22K subscribers.Guess it brings in subscribers?
When I was in college - back in the early 80s - we used a person sized boxey machine that had a movable bottom shelf and a series of mirrors that projected the lower positioned image onto an upper glass shelf on which you placed your drawing paper. And we called it...."the Lucy". You stood over it with a black tarp covering your shoulders to block out any other light. This "Lucy" is the simplified table top version of it. If it was good enough for artists of the past, it's good enough for artists of the present. I was excited to see it reborn and purchased one a few years ago. :)
I had a similar product as a child. It had a plastic construction, including a tray for the paper, making it portable. I always found it worked best outside, and since you didn’t need a solid table (since one was built in) you could put it down pretty much anywhere.
calling this tracing has been thwaughted, there have been "real professsionals" who have used this technique in historyu, actually coming up with it. its not tracing as such, if used in such a situation as a life mock up they have painted light, which is unconseiable to the human eye and th eonly way to see it is through such a device if you can call it that. there was a dude who did this to reproduce such the efect this is copying in such a rudamentory fassion. lol. but it took like six months to rteproduce the painting. i knew that one day jaz would stumble apon this. its real masters did it. its pshysics. it makes better painters faster. today we have such an easy way to recreate life "whos the real tracers. wish i could find the url for the videos for this, but your not lazy find it yourselves "
this isn't a funny comment but I like how even after he does all three tests, he still tries to do the lucy again in different circumstances and gives it the benefit of the doubt instead of just trashing it immediately.
Tushar Jamwal the point of the product is that the reference overlays the paper. Meaning you look at both for the most part at the same time. Besides the Lucy in the trailer is/probably is a bunch of bs
This is 100% better than some of the previous videos that you addressed in your self-reflection video. Not really over the top with your actions or words, just the Jazza we’ve all grown to love being himself. Please continue to do videos in this way as it reminds me of the original days of draw with Jazza and is what we all love to see from you. Take care and stay positive.
I have prescription contact lenses that I wear when I sleep that shape my eye. THEY ARE SOOO UUNCORFORTABLE. IVE HAD THEM FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS AND THEY STILL HURT. They rlly hurt because they are hard ones :(it’s probably because I’m 12 and am a weakling with like zero pain tolerance ;-;) sos I just had to vent for a minute
@Eric Keller I know you're being sarcastic and all, but friending a person with with an art studio instead of someone who doesn't just proves the guy's point?
I have a grafix version of something like this and my kids love it! It comes as its own carry case and to set up you just click in 2 support arms and a top piece with a mirror. They use theirs when they are outdoors and want to get proportions right and that certain points have the correct placement, they don't use it for the entire artwork.
The thing with this, Jazza is an experienced, skilled artist who has had hundreds of hours of practice of tracing and drawing from memory. This product could be targeted at beginners looking to draw simplistic objects. But still, love the video and look forward to the next one.
X Heba X I agree, but my point is that if it’s targeted at beginners, which I believe it is, they would be drawing simple objects, say an apple for example, which is very minimalistic in detail, so they would not face Jazza’s problem about intricate details
I really think there are way easier ways to trace, if you really want to trace. But drawing without lucy or directly tracing does mean you're improving your skills.
@@archiee3106 but I mean, personally I think art is your own, it's supposed to represent what you are, hence, what you see. I know, almost every artist starts by tracing (I know I did when I was 11) but the thing is, I took those things and made them something of my own. These product it's only helping you to trace, and eventually you'll get used to that technique, and I feel that it's just gonna block all the talent inside.
And a lot of old magic tricks an image of a lit person reflected onto a sheet of glass it's essentially what they did for the 2pac and gorillaz hollowgram shows.
Necrobyte basically they’ll use the mirrors to make it seem like there are actual ghosts flying around. In actuality it’s prerecorded footage being reflected. If you just look up some UA-cam videos they can explain it a lot better than me lol.
Wasn’t that used in the Sherlock Holmes movie or show? Where the lady disappeared cuz they moved the glass away and her reflection was gone. It was super cool and a unique way to create a supernatural being in a natural setiing
The levels of complexity required by the time you get to 14:00 had me in stitches. Imagine a salesperson expounding upon its virtues while setting all that up.“Ta-Da! It’s so easy!” *blank stares*
When old masters used something but now it is "forgotten" that usually means: someone had a better idea. BTW: You could modernize this idea with a video camera and a beamer. Just through the image of the beamer on the paper and trace it. Or you could just create a photo and trace that. Or just have the Photo. And my guess is that the Photography killed this tool.
@@ahmedshaikh7662 This thing is basically a projector except you're looking through the reflection rather than the end since the light isn't focused through the mirror. Same system with the elements moved around a bit.
Using the method he used on his video called "Can I DRAW Like a PRINTER?..." is a much better method to duplicate the effect this device creates but I'd much rather encourage people to eyeball it. Use the setup time this would take to practice instead as it'll provide a more effective practice session.
I really like how you've brought more heart into your videos lately. Content like this makes me want to shoot down and draw which I hadn't found as much with the bigger more out there projects. Great job Jazza!
The tool artist used in this movie is much better. It uses mirror instead of prism. Jazza should watch this movie and give it a try. Instead of using some cheap toys from amazon.
I love this video! You are a hoot! I recently found my artistic abilities during this crazy Corona virus lock down time. I just purchase the Lucy and him learning to use it now. I think it is good for people just starting out. I do know that it advertises that this will help a new person to get better with their own depth perception in detail. I believe it will be a good tool to propel me to become a better at freehand.
This was interesting. I always thought, and LucidArt confirmed, that this device was meant to quickly rough in the drawing so you could have the proportions be right and focus on the details. Even their commercial showed tracing the main outlines of the subject, not each wrinkle or shadow. I do agree, however, there are less expensive/complicated ways do the same thing. My dad made me something like this device out of some things he found in the garage.
This feels like the kind of thing that Da Vinci would have come up with, just because he was sick of people being like “wow that’s so good! I wish I could draw like that, will you teach me?” So he made this and just gave it to them like “here, use this and leave me alone”
The only real benefit of using the "Lucy" that I can see is that it helps you get the proportions loosely outlined so you can then just look at your reference and start drawing everything in without it. Like getting a very loose gesture drawing down so you know your drawing is laid out on the paper in the appropriate size.
Jazza, I love that you decided you wanted to kinda reinvent yourself, enter a new era, whatever, and your content has become so immediately intentional and artistic again! You are nailing it buddy!
Jazza: Whenever I’m using the Jazza’s arty games app I always use my huion canvas pro, I do get bored so I like to listen to an audio book on audible using my raycon premium earbuds
I think he should go into color theory with it too. Maybe using a white/black backdrop isn't the way to go. Could be better to use blue for something brown there.
I have a cheap one from the 50s or 60s, and learned real quick the need for bright lighting. I was able to use an Victorian era one on display at Independence Hall which had significantly better optics (no cheaply beam splitter there) which actually worked fairly well. I want to say the camera obscures the old painters used had a hood of some kind to darken the drawing area, and then were really only used for the underdrawing. I also seem to recall then using a grid panel with live models too to get foreshortening right. Personally, I wouldn’t mind getting an antique Balopteron (the projector Rockwell used).
I got one of these as a gift. I had the same problems you did try to use it for indoor drawing. I feel like its "best" use is copying outdoor landscapes in person, and even then mostly for getting proportions/distances right, because the detail just isn't there at that scale. I'll stick to light boxes and grids for cases where I need to copy something.
You just use the lucida to sketch the outlines, not draw and shade the whole picture through it. It is used simply to replace the grid...get the basic shape and the rest depends on your skill to fill it out.
The problem is its an outdated, uncomfortable method. Just get a lightbox if you're that bad at drawing and take a photo then trace it. Only thing that would be a plus with Lucy would be that you could do shadows better, since the light is layered rather than paper layered which make it so that you can't see once you've drawn on it but Lucy fails even to do that. Basically it's useless.
@@kaanmuhammedgunes1879 Only benefit I've had with it is being able to take a small object and make a quick sketch in a larger size without having to worry about upscaling with grids. It's a tool I rarely ever use...kind of a novelty.
@@kaanmuhammedgunes1879 Camera lucidas were primarily used by scientists, tourists, etc. to draw and document what they saw in their travels before the camera was invented. If you looked up the original camera lucidas they were small and portable, meant to be used with a notebook/journal. It would be more convenient to use this while drawing out in public rather than carrying a lightbox.
I could genuinely see the use of this for tracing drawings and outlines onto fabric for embroidery :) Some of the more complex stuff requires a printer or some decent drawing skills that every embroiderer may not have. Also a printer requires you to have a simplified image that you want to print and if you want to reference and take piece of several things it can be quite complicated. I could see this thing being useful to me for that purpose.
That actor portrayed artists perfectly. 😂😂😂 * smacks hand on painting and smears it because she hated it * . . . * turns head to the camera and smiles *
Frankly, I don't see the argument they had against the backlighting thing. "Oh, you're a human copying machine". So what? That's the point of tracing. If I didn't want the human bit, I'd use a photocopier, and if I didn't want the copying machine bit, I wouldn't use a tool like that. You could say the exact same "human copying machine" thing about the Lucy. I think what you could have tried is less light on the paper? Obviously more light on the subject helps, but it seemed to me it was getting a bit overpowered. But I don't think that would do THAT much more good really, it seems you already got most of what you could out of this thing
My high school shop teacher had a Lucy. It was massive! A room all to itself. You'd put your picture in a compartment, turn it on, and it would project an image of that picture which you could then adjust for size. I used to use it to enlarge small drawings.
With your talent, skill, and experience freehand copying rules. I definitely heard what you said and agree that it's also worthwhile for people still learning as the process will help develop so many different skills.
I think LUCY is a great tool to help get proportions correct, Best used to get a rough outline and some shading but ultimately it is up to the artist to add the finishing touches
This is like, Imagine a general order a soldier to shoot a bullet to a culprit through a sniper but the soldier says, ' sorry general I will need an 8x scope, gun barrel extended by an extra pipe to the end where it touches the culprit's body so the bullet has a safe passage with no interference of anything and also the culprit should be willing to be shot at' lmao
I feel like the ideal use for this is would be to sketch shapes and proportions easily if you’re not a trained artist. Then you just fill in color and shading freehand. I see it most useful as a simply setup for an outdoor landscape (like the old ass example on Wikipedia). It would let you trace on location, and it probably feels more organic than snapping a photo and powering a light box. Still unnecessary for an artist, but probably an easy way to trace if you get used to it.
Agreed. The learning curve for producing a satisfying completed drawing or painting is enough to put some people off their artistic impulse completely. A lot of people will disagree but I think employing a tool like this can be useful while you are learning and help you understand where you are going. If you end up getting serious you can delve into honing skills with other techniques like contour drawing to learn how to better draw directly what your eye is seeing.
The Camera Obscura is a 19th century optical device often used by artists to make quick sketches in the field. ... It was used for sketching; the tracing paper was placed on the missing glass inside the folding hood, and a 45° mirror inside the box reflected the image onto the paper.
Lady in the commercial: imma draw a bowl of fruit, not too complicated and just simple shapes Jazza: **picks what is probably the most complex and detailed model he’s ever made** ah yea that should do it
New challenge idea! You're not blindfolded so you can look at the art during the process but every time you put pen to paper you have to have your eyes closed.
I also attempted to use my Lucy which I purchased about 5 years ago. I saw your video and hoped to learn how to use it. You did much better than I did. I'm thankful the cost was minimal. I agree with comment below. I feel it is only for shapes and not for shading. You choose a difficult theme to draw. THANKS.
Jazza, love the video. Take a peek at the documentary "Tim's Vermeer" to see how they "masters" actually used the Camera Lucida method. It was very clear and allowed them to see contrast and color match as well.
I was going to mention that documentary as well! I really loved it, and it also showed, as you say, the actual method. From what I recall, the real thing doesn't involve tracing at all, just ultra accurate color blending. If i had any patience at all, I would love to try the method
I’ve been wanting him to at least review Tim’s Vermeer. Would love to see if he could use the setup that easily. Watching Tim build everything for the painting really didn’t make me think it was as easy as he made it look.
2:07 shes got it the other way round so shes looking straight forward instead of down, maybe try turning it so you can do that instead? Even the women on the sheet at 2:30 is using it differently
Yes, he seems it have it so he's looking at his paper, and seeing the reflection of the object, instead of the other way around - so you'd see the object clearly. and a reflection of the paper.
I thought this might be correct, but I think it's just models that don't know what they're supposed to be doing. If you look up how a camera lucida is supposed to work, it does look like you're supposed to be looking at the paper and seeing the reflection of the object. I think most of the problem was that his reference was a pale monochrome object.
It actually works both ways, looking forward or looking down. I watched the Lucy commercial from Amazon again to be sure. The only thing I didn’t see Jazza try is the dark transparent film for different contrast. I wonder if that would have helped.
I haven't used it but it's for helping get the shape/proportions, not so much for shading and minor details. When I'm at work tracing something, I use that to get my base shape then I add in the details.
I really think to do the camera lucida justice, you should use toned paper and go outside to get more natural and birghter light. Also, I'm pretty sure the tool wasn't used to create rendered images, but to help with perspective for the final painting. Cool video :) even some of the old masters used tools like this :)
Ha! I think I had been using the graph method for a long time without even realizing it. Usually what I do is find a reference image and then zoom in on it and put my phone behind my paper and move it around as I get the basic shapes down and then remove my phone. After that I just have the reference image on the side so I can look at it every once in a while to make sure I’m getting the basic details correct. But I usually turn my reference image becomes something completely different in my drawings, I hardly ever actually try to draw my reference exactly. The reference is usually just to get some posing right.
I prefer the second drawing, it has more "life" to it. On a side note, It's so easy to see your videos now. I like not being bombarded with super high energy Jazza!!! Could also be that I'm old & curmudgeon, and thus prefer less intense energy. I appreciate you Jazza.
No, I don't think it's that. Since I'm feeling the same after all. His statement was so honset and now he seems to be so much more like himself. Could also be because although I'm young, I'm also a little bit curmudgeon.
thank you so much for this art jack I was totally considering purchasing this thing just yesterday!! thank you for painstakingly doing those 3 drawings for me so i could get a real comparison. Much appreciated!! you saved me money!!
the Lucy needs a higher contrast to work effectively, because the method being used was originally designed to be used by gaslamp or candlelight. It was meant to give the overall impression of the item or image you're replicating, but not all of the details, which is why so much victorian and edwardian artwork looks the way it does.
I don't know about the one you got, Jazza, but the one I recieved for Christmas last year came with essentially ND filters to help with clarity. Using it straight can be an absolute nightmare but with one or both filters, depending on what you're looking at, it works well. Agree with the wobble issue. I have MS and a bit of a shake now, and it was a bit of a pain for that but not unworkable.
I just received my Lucy although I haven't used it yet. I think you may have had a better image with more contrast, by using the filters and higher intensity directed light. Thanks for the demo!
Another fun video. I think a real test would be to set up a still life and see if Mrs. Jazza could get a passable sketch. We already know that her drawing skills are OUTSTANDING but it would still be fun. Thanks again for sharing.
He is honest in telling us he did not read the directions and then uses the device improperly, and then doesn't like it. I would rephrase your comment as "At least he is honest."
I used a small kid version of this and my friends and I could make a face in a paper and leave some spots not filled in. Then when the item your sketching make it a human and you can make overlays on them
I just watched the AR phone video and I think that a device like this mixed with a digital projection onto your lense instead of a reflection would be a really cool product for getting proper proportions in a drawing.
You're supposed to just trace the outlines then switch to normal view to get all the details right. Also, it works better if you do the top-left first, then bottom-right, then top-right and bottom left, and then the rest, so you don't have to jump back to the original spot the whole time. And with the outline done in a sketchy way, you have everything you need to quickly make the actual drawing on scale and use your own interpretation. Its basically a substitute for the grid method, except you don't have to setup a grid and such you don't have to get rid of it later either.
i think you're doing it backwards, look how she's positioned the lucy thing and look at how you did it. she's looking through it straight at the thing she's supposed to draw, you're looking straight down on the paper through it. it might be worth doing a second take, to me that looks pretty chill if it could actually work. right now i'm doing the awkward measuring where you hold up a pencil to compare size and scale and stuff if i ever want to "copy" from life.
Some clips & images of the ad are (purposely?) misleading to appear like we can sit comfortably and look straight ahead but we can't because the view port and mirror are 90 degrees from each other, so Jazza is doing it correctly. At 2:05 the narrator says "& look down into the view hole!" meaning she was looking at the black backing right before it XD Only way to look forwards would be by placing the subject to the left or right of where we'll be drawing and angling the mirror that direction but then needing to turn out neck every time we want to glance at the original shall be very annoying
@@mica4977 i'm not sure, i mean why would the ad do it purposely to mislead the buyer? i think it's more like you're supposed to look at the "object" and see it more clearly and the paper is the barely visable thing that shows up instead because you're projecting the paper ontop of the object and the paper part is the thing that's gonna be barely visable, so it's completely reverse. like you just shift the viewports, it's a 90° angle either way. sure it might mean you won't look at your hand directly where you put pen to paper, but you still see where the pen is relative to the paper and you would probably see the object much more clearer. i don't know, if it were me i'd try it to do it like that just to expose the falsehood of the advertisement either way.
theres a projector app that can help you out if youre interested. all you need is your phone and something to set it up so its pointing down at your paper, preferably a tripod will get you the best results. its basically this lucy thing except you dont need to have your reference in front of you, you can just upload any image you want from camera roll and copy from that. i have ios so i dont know if its available for android. heres link: apps.apple.com/us/app/tracing-projector/id1063062393
@@mica4977 I know the narrator says to look down into the viewing hole, but when she's looking through it, you can tell it's opposite of how Jazza has it set up. The mounting point is on the top for her, and facing Jazza for him. So she is actually looking through the hole, and not just at the side of it
Do it as the old artist did, go outside during sunlight and bring a small tent that can give you shadow, then outline a house and a landscape and les some folk stand where you later want to insert folk (portraits), then you use this as an reference while you paint as normal. You has to remember than many artists back then was not out to make "art", some was hired to document how things looked, and every modern method (for them) to replicate something more exactly was as exciting as a drawing tablet is today. You can see that some old classical artist where using a camera obscura and the paintings they made is a bit like photography, I do not think this is cheating and it do not make the artist to a "bad" artist, as long as the end result is something you (and other) like it is okay to outline, draw over photographs, use camera obscura or even just let a gorilla paint. What I want to day, there is no "bad" way to be creative or to create art.
Used to draw when I was younger by printing out anime pictures and just referencing them. Like Jazza does in this video. Just looking and replicating. Didn’t realize how good of a skill that was until now lol. 😆
I've got an app on my Ipad called Camera Lucida, which works in a similar way. You position your Ipad above the paper, and it overlays a translucent image of your choice. Again, it does feel inorganic because you're drawing on the paper but looking at the screen, but even if it's just used to get the loose proportion of the subject i think it's a pretty good tool. It's not a replacement for learning proportions properly, but if you're trying to get a likeness of someone it's a good shortcut until you get better
Can we just appreciate that Jazza drew the same picture three times just to give us an accurate review
i cant even draw a picture once
This must be the Lucy(Loosee?) 3x Challenge (similar to the Ergo and Jazza 3x challenges).
You can always rely on jazza for give a really thorougher review
Imagine jazza as a art doctor telling u what method u should use.
Yes
"I wasnt cleaning. I just stumbled upon it while making more mess"
What a flipping mood
ngl thats cool 😎
lmao
I'm gonna use that now
@@lvbboi9 lol
i do that all the time
😂 Threw away the Manual that would have shown him that the filters would have given him a way better picture 😂
I was yelling that at the screen 😂
As an artist I appreciate the honesty when he's just like, "I really don't want to do this" and for a brief moment you can see him contemplating whether he should or not based on UA-cam responses, but then pulls through with the, "Naw. I'm done." Respect.
This is one of the many reasons I'm still here after many years.
So much respect ✊
how people have to lie to get paid, sad
I'm disappointed, that this thing isn't called Tracey instead.
True, but most people know that Tracey is a name. If anybody’s name is Tracey
But I might be wrong
Well, the original from early 1800 was called Camera Lucida, so lucy is not that bad of a name.
That would be awesome
hahha YASSSESSS
I have this tool, and I love how awesome it is to trace the proportions of a subject. It CAN be difficult to see some of the details to trace even with the filters on, but it's definitely a time saver and allows me to get on with the painting without spending so much time perfecting shape placement.
You could do a combo: use the ”Lucy” and the ”Sketch-a-Graph”.
brillant
Using the drunk goggles
Yes
*luci
Travis Summerhayes the sketch o graph is the bigger smaller thingy
I'm the creator of the LUCY. This video had me dying, hilarious! You made some legitimate criticisms, this is a historical drawing tool, not as simple as some modern methods. But I did see you throw away the manual there, and it showed. Those filters that you loved peeling the paper off of, those will increase the contrast of the image, without any need for complex lighting. And proper use of a camera lucida is for the real quick basic outline, never use it for shading or for the finished drawing. It is just to get you started. But I genuinely enjoyed the video, thank you for reviewing my LUCY!
Also, it seems like being in a bright studio lit for video isn't optimal. Maybe the preferred way to use it is in a somewhat dimly lit room with a bright subject.
Isn't he looking at it wrong mister? He's supposed to look at the subject right?
@@jones1618 Yes, that could be a factor. You don't necessarily what the studio to be dimly lit, but bright studio lights might be too much. Ideally you just want the normal comfortable light you should be using for art. The huge mistake he made was not using the optical filters. Putting in an optical filter instantly makes the image brighter and you can adjust the brightness as needed. Using the LUCY without the filters is like riding a mountain bike without using the gears.
Oh I’m glad you were here to say something. The whole video I was like isn’t the point to sketch out basic outlines and then detail it after
isnt this pretty much the same device from tims vermeer?
These were for sale in comic books back in the day. I bought one as did a few of my fellow aspiring comic book artist friends. My High School Art teacher also had one that he used for portrait work. He never used it for the entire process, but just for outlines and composition.
Coincidentally, my Army pal Troy Hudson voiced the commercial referenced in this video. 😊
I feel like that Lucy ad was just made specifically to lure Jazza into buying and testing this... clearly genius marketing.
Jazza: Draws a picture 3 times for an accurate representation, spends 5 months making chainmail armor, spends hours each day making videos for our entertainment, but he doesn't want to draw one more picture with the LUCY. That's how you can tell a product sucks.
Holy guacamole that's alotta likes
Akash Gupta this has nothing to do with this comment lol
@@akashgupta6364 uh... what
Yes.
Your ambient is not dark enough around you. And you don't have light enough directed to the object.
He legit used it the wrong way.. compare how she looks through it at 2:06 to how Jazza used it at 4:18 . Using it correctly shows you a clearer picture and with less strain as you don't have to look down.
Hey jazza I have used a similar thing in art class, and you can set them up to be really useful! The 3 big factors are:
1. Have a strong head on light (like you figured out)
2. Reduce or turn off ambient light, like your overhead lighting, that really blurs the image. (Think that would make the biggest difference for you)
3. The ones we had were attached to tripods not that shaky rod Lucy uses. It's still a little awkward but much more comfortable and accurate!
Would love to see you try it out again
Over the years Jazza has taught me the golden rule of art: skip the gadgets and instead just practice sight drawing.
Best rule ever . 👏
Agreed
I think that's his creed. We all know he challenges himself with ridiculous handicaps for the sake of a challenge, but if he reviews a gadget that's supposed to make the experience easier and it produces the same challenge as his usual antics, he basically tells you that training your skills as an artist is just the easier method.
Practice makes perfect! :)
@@zQoQz PERFECTION don't exist .
"I wasn't cleaning, I just stumbled across it when making more of a mess." 😂
Story of my life!! Lol
Who else loves Jazza!?!
His Wife♥️
Lol yeah.
You sound like my mom but true
I just got one for my daughter who is just starting to learn to draw. She loves it, as she can now get the the basic lines in proportion and place, then she moves away from it and does the rest by eye. the main thing you didn't do , if you want to use it as a tracing tool is have the subject the same distance from the prism as the paper.
I don't think this is good for copying like your trying to do or the manufacture claim. But it is a great toll for laying down the basics of of the drawing to bring everything into scale.
Shawnie's drawing has improved way more that 10 fold in a couple weeks and most seems to be relative scale.
I don't think this would be much use to the freehand professional artist , but a great tool to improve basic skills without graph or grid techniques
The actress looked like she got some actual aggression out on that painting.
ATTENTION BROTHER!!! I have two very very hot and big UA-camr girlfriends who I show off (I smell like 100 de*d orangutans oh nooo)! Thank you for you attention, dear dude kid alli
@@AxxLAfriku what drugs are u on?!
@@sunitkokate123 coc
@@No-xh2uw Pfffft.
@@sunitkokate123 even worse is that his videos are actually about this,Ive seen him before,he says stuff like I’m sorry UA-cam fans but I have two hot girlfriends.Its hilarious because that drives away potential subscribers.
Edit:I looked at his channel right after saying that and he has 22K subscribers.Guess it brings in subscribers?
Can we just appreciate that he didn’t get a terrific neck pain after doing this video..
I would get one 2 minutes in... OhWELLlll
next tutorial - how to draw with a tired neck
remember when jazza drew thanos with his arm at full extent XD
good video that was
I have a really bad neck posture so my neck is always like that :,(
OOf, I used to always crank my neck in rly weird positions and people woud just stare at me. That lasted for a year :,(
When I was in college - back in the early 80s - we used a person sized boxey machine that had a movable bottom shelf and a series of mirrors that projected the lower positioned image onto an upper glass shelf on which you placed your drawing paper. And we called it...."the Lucy". You stood over it with a black tarp covering your shoulders to block out any other light. This "Lucy" is the simplified table top version of it. If it was good enough for artists of the past, it's good enough for artists of the present. I was excited to see it reborn and purchased one a few years ago. :)
"That's worse than I remembered"
Me everytime I look at my old drawings
It means you are getting better at drawing!
@@ayarosen1035 Unexpected Wholesomeness!
Wow relatable!
thats me WhilE I'm drawing
Me, every time I look in the mirror.
Jazza: ‘there are easier ways to do this’
Lucy: that’s a dislike
oh you are going to trace it like a robot?
draw it with bars?
**looks down on you**
PATHETIC
lol
26 lucy employers be like
Lol my name is Lucy
Daffodil_Plays better than having Karen as a name
I had a similar product as a child. It had a plastic construction, including a tray for the paper, making it portable. I always found it worked best outside, and since you didn’t need a solid table (since one was built in) you could put it down pretty much anywhere.
The whole add was like "stop tracing like a LOSER, use our method like a PRO"
Which was literally just tracing with more steps
It’s worse and it takes more time in my opinion;-;
Is your pfp Reyna??
Even tho the product sucks that was the best ad ive ever seen lmao 🤣
calling this tracing has been thwaughted, there have been "real professsionals" who have used this technique in historyu, actually coming up with it. its not tracing as such, if used in such a situation as a life mock up they have painted light, which is unconseiable to the human eye and th eonly way to see it is through such a device if you can call it that. there was a dude who did this to reproduce such the efect this is copying in such a rudamentory fassion. lol. but it took like six months to rteproduce the painting. i knew that one day jaz would stumble apon this. its real masters did it. its pshysics. it makes better painters faster. today we have such an easy way to recreate life "whos the real tracers. wish i could find the url for the videos for this, but your not lazy find it yourselves
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this isn't a funny comment but I like how even after he does all three tests, he still tries to do the lucy again in different circumstances and gives it the benefit of the doubt instead of just trashing it immediately.
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Except he didn't use it the way it's supposed to be, he was looking at the paper not the subject. so now we won't know.
Tushar Jamwal the point of the product is that the reference overlays the paper. Meaning you look at both for the most part at the same time. Besides the Lucy in the trailer is/probably is a bunch of bs
This is 100% better than some of the previous videos that you addressed in your self-reflection video. Not really over the top with your actions or words, just the Jazza we’ve all grown to love being himself. Please continue to do videos in this way as it reminds me of the original days of draw with Jazza and is what we all love to see from you. Take care and stay positive.
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Not to mention, having 1 eye closed and 1 open for hours is uncomfortable AF
If it was actually good at its job, I wouldn't mind wearing a cool eyepatch while using it.
If they made a pair of glasses with it it would be so much cooler and easier to use
Lmao he wasn't closing 1 eye for hours tho he said he was setting up for 2 hours + he can take breaks
I have prescription contact lenses that I wear when I sleep that shape my eye. THEY ARE SOOO UUNCORFORTABLE. IVE HAD THEM FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS AND THEY STILL HURT. They rlly hurt because they are hard ones :(it’s probably because I’m 12 and am a weakling with like zero pain tolerance ;-;) sos I just had to vent for a minute
Max Doran and neck problems
*Man, this guy literally has everything he needs for drawing. Like what a life you would have just to be a friend of his.*
I would be a permanent resident in his workshop
Loool do you always choose your friends depending on their possessions? 🤔🤣
@@mollymay4846 No, not always, just if they happen to have a full art studio. Like you wouldn't.
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@Eric Keller I know you're being sarcastic and all, but friending a person with with an art studio instead of someone who doesn't just proves the guy's point?
I have a grafix version of something like this and my kids love it! It comes as its own carry case and to set up you just click in 2 support arms and a top piece with a mirror.
They use theirs when they are outdoors and want to get proportions right and that certain points have the correct placement, they don't use it for the entire artwork.
The thing with this, Jazza is an experienced, skilled artist who has had hundreds of hours of practice of tracing and drawing from memory. This product could be targeted at beginners looking to draw simplistic objects. But still, love the video and look forward to the next one.
I think the result of this method would still be frustrating even for beginners.
X Heba X I agree, but my point is that if it’s targeted at beginners, which I believe it is, they would be drawing simple objects, say an apple for example, which is very minimalistic in detail, so they would not face Jazza’s problem about intricate details
I really think there are way easier ways to trace, if you really want to trace. But drawing without lucy or directly tracing does mean you're improving your skills.
@@archiee3106 but I mean, personally I think art is your own, it's supposed to represent what you are, hence, what you see. I know, almost every artist starts by tracing (I know I did when I was 11) but the thing is, I took those things and made them something of my own.
These product it's only helping you to trace, and eventually you'll get used to that technique, and I feel that it's just gonna block all the talent inside.
if you saw, him being a skilled artist STILL STRUGGLED with the tool. And he listed easier ways for beginners to make better practice
Fun fact, the effect LUCY uses is called the pepper’s ghost effect and is also used in Disney themepark’s haunted mansions
How tho
And a lot of old magic tricks an image of a lit person reflected onto a sheet of glass it's essentially what they did for the 2pac and gorillaz hollowgram shows.
Necrobyte basically they’ll use the mirrors to make it seem like there are actual ghosts flying around. In actuality it’s prerecorded footage being reflected. If you just look up some UA-cam videos they can explain it a lot better than me lol.
Wasn’t that used in the Sherlock Holmes movie or show? Where the lady disappeared cuz they moved the glass away and her reflection was gone. It was super cool and a unique way to create a supernatural being in a natural setiing
YEAH! It's used to make cheap holograms. It works really well! :)
The levels of complexity required by the time you get to 14:00 had me in stitches. Imagine a salesperson expounding upon its virtues while setting all that up.“Ta-Da! It’s so easy!” *blank stares*
When old masters used something but now it is "forgotten" that usually means: someone had a better idea.
BTW: You could modernize this idea with a video camera and a beamer.
Just through the image of the beamer on the paper and trace it.
Or you could just create a photo and trace that.
Or just have the Photo.
And my guess is that the Photography killed this tool.
the video camera and beamer thing is basically the same as having a projector
@@ahmedshaikh7662 This thing is basically a projector except you're looking through the reflection rather than the end since the light isn't focused through the mirror. Same system with the elements moved around a bit.
@@Kio_Kurashi yeah except its a bad projector and doesnt have most of the benefits of a projector while requiring a lot more setup
Using the method he used on his video called "Can I DRAW Like a PRINTER?..." is a much better method to duplicate the effect this device creates but I'd much rather encourage people to eyeball it. Use the setup time this would take to practice instead as it'll provide a more effective practice session.
@@mica4977 oh yeah, i remember that. Very true though
I can already hear him yelling "IM A KINESTHETIC LEARNER" over and over again in my head
I really like how you've brought more heart into your videos lately. Content like this makes me want to shoot down and draw which I hadn't found as much with the bigger more out there projects. Great job Jazza!
Every artist: *gets expensive or things that take money*
Me: window
Or laptop and thin paper
Same
@@twistedclover me: tracing paper that I nicked from school ages back
May I add. Phone flashlight
I legit use my phone
"Tim's Vermeer" is a fantastic documentary on this device and how it was used by classical artists.
The tool artist used in this movie is much better. It uses mirror instead of prism. Jazza
should watch this movie and give it a try. Instead of using some cheap toys from amazon.
Came to say the same thing. It's amazing
Ditto
but then - it's still tracing
Your ambient is not dark enough around you. And you don't have light enough directed to the object.
2:47 that clamp screwing work was amazing, I give you a standing ovation
30 seconds into the video: *Jazza types like a total dad*
I mean, he is a dad after all
@@sofiahammerschlag6273 and full of dad jokes, 11/10
Isn't that how every1 types
His face while he uses the Lucy tool looks like he’s about to cry.
EdenIsOk * cause he wants to
Lol
😂😂true
I love this video! You are a hoot! I recently found my artistic abilities during this crazy Corona virus lock down time. I just purchase the Lucy and him learning to use it now. I think it is good for people just starting out. I do know that it advertises that this will help a new person to get better with their own depth perception in detail.
I believe it will be a good tool to propel me to become a better at freehand.
How did you miss the opportunity to say... "Lucy, you've got some 'splaining to do!"...
"Jazza created a group"
"Jazza added Lucy"
- Magic Pad: welcome..
- Etch a sketch: First time?
ooh i miss his complete breakdown over the Etch a sketch. Time to rewatch that video.
only_the_brave yup
Spirograph: How did it go for you? Did he go nuts?
Mr. Cat yup
This was interesting. I always thought, and LucidArt confirmed, that this device was meant to quickly rough in the drawing so you could have the proportions be right and focus on the details. Even their commercial showed tracing the main outlines of the subject, not each wrinkle or shadow. I do agree, however, there are less expensive/complicated ways do the same thing. My dad made me something like this device out of some things he found in the garage.
This feels like the kind of thing that Da Vinci would have come up with, just because he was sick of people being like “wow that’s so good! I wish I could draw like that, will you teach me?”
So he made this and just gave it to them like “here, use this and leave me alone”
The only real benefit of using the "Lucy" that I can see is that it helps you get the proportions loosely outlined so you can then just look at your reference and start drawing everything in without it. Like getting a very loose gesture drawing down so you know your drawing is laid out on the paper in the appropriate size.
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Jazza, I love that you decided you wanted to kinda reinvent yourself, enter a new era, whatever, and your content has become so immediately intentional and artistic again! You are nailing it buddy!
Jazza: Whenever I’m using the Jazza’s arty games app I always use my huion canvas pro, I do get bored so I like to listen to an audio book on audible using my raycon premium earbuds
And i learn to draw my premium earbuds thanks to skillshare
Ah, I see you're a Sponsartist.
Ha! Wow
@@isawapinksheepinmc4419 and we cant forget wix, that i use for making a website for my skillshare page
oh and honey, who gives you easy cupon-codes to wix and other websites, AND its free.
I wonder if he dimmed the lights around himself and just light up the subject...would that make the image clearer....hmm
I think he should go into color theory with it too. Maybe using a white/black backdrop isn't the way to go. Could be better to use blue for something brown there.
That’d be a funny requirement after their diss on projectors in the ad
I have a cheap one from the 50s or 60s, and learned real quick the need for bright lighting. I was able to use an Victorian era one on display at Independence Hall which had significantly better optics (no cheaply beam splitter there) which actually worked fairly well. I want to say the camera obscures the old painters used had a hood of some kind to darken the drawing area, and then were really only used for the underdrawing. I also seem to recall then using a grid panel with live models too to get foreshortening right. Personally, I wouldn’t mind getting an antique Balopteron (the projector Rockwell used).
Actually, less light on the drawing surface is the trick.
I got one of these as a gift. I had the same problems you did try to use it for indoor drawing. I feel like its "best" use is copying outdoor landscapes in person, and even then mostly for getting proportions/distances right, because the detail just isn't there at that scale.
I'll stick to light boxes and grids for cases where I need to copy something.
“I’m never gonna trace like a pleb ever again”-Jazza 2020
And then he goes on to use the tool incorrectly....
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Adam Persson how?
@@pureclownlikeentropy8761 they saying a contrast filter it came with would of made it better.
You just use the lucida to sketch the outlines, not draw and shade the whole picture through it. It is used simply to replace the grid...get the basic shape and the rest depends on your skill to fill it out.
Seems people find him funny, not smart 😩 !
The problem is its an outdated, uncomfortable method. Just get a lightbox if you're that bad at drawing and take a photo then trace it. Only thing that would be a plus with Lucy would be that you could do shadows better, since the light is layered rather than paper layered which make it so that you can't see once you've drawn on it but Lucy fails even to do that. Basically it's useless.
@@kaanmuhammedgunes1879 Only benefit I've had with it is being able to take a small object and make a quick sketch in a larger size without having to worry about upscaling with grids. It's a tool I rarely ever use...kind of a novelty.
@@kaanmuhammedgunes1879 Camera lucidas were primarily used by scientists, tourists, etc. to draw and document what they saw in their travels before the camera was invented. If you looked up the original camera lucidas they were small and portable, meant to be used with a notebook/journal. It would be more convenient to use this while drawing out in public rather than carrying a lightbox.
I could genuinely see the use of this for tracing drawings and outlines onto fabric for embroidery :) Some of the more complex stuff requires a printer or some decent drawing skills that every embroiderer may not have. Also a printer requires you to have a simplified image that you want to print and if you want to reference and take piece of several things it can be quite complicated. I could see this thing being useful to me for that purpose.
Lucy advert guy: don’t trace with other methods, trace with our method!! It gives *us* ✨money✨
Pretty much!
Pretty much!
Pretty much!
Pretty much!
Pretty much!
Instructions unclear: woman named Lucy put a restraining order on me and now I’m homeless.
Aw, I forgive you. I’m done helping you draw though.
instructions nuclear i accidentally fallout 3
@@MissLucieDee omg. 🤣😂🤣😂 I applaud you, madam! 👏👏
Sounds like you tried to get a look through the hole.
Lucie Jones I’m still homeless though
That actor portrayed artists perfectly. 😂😂😂
* smacks hand on painting and smears it because she hated it *
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* turns head to the camera and smiles *
Frankly, I don't see the argument they had against the backlighting thing. "Oh, you're a human copying machine". So what? That's the point of tracing. If I didn't want the human bit, I'd use a photocopier, and if I didn't want the copying machine bit, I wouldn't use a tool like that. You could say the exact same "human copying machine" thing about the Lucy.
I think what you could have tried is less light on the paper? Obviously more light on the subject helps, but it seemed to me it was getting a bit overpowered. But I don't think that would do THAT much more good really, it seems you already got most of what you could out of this thing
it's an ad, your comment is kinda obsolote, actually it makes less sense than what you are getting upset about.
@@S4NSE How so? I'm just pointing out a flaw in their argument that wasn't addressed in the video
@@coryman125 it's not a flaw when it's intended
@@S4NSE did they intended to be ridiculous? I'm not sure I'm getting the point of the ad at all 😂
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My high school shop teacher had a Lucy. It was massive! A room all to itself. You'd put your picture in a compartment, turn it on, and it would project an image of that picture which you could then adjust for size. I used to use it to enlarge small drawings.
With your talent, skill, and experience freehand copying rules.
I definitely heard what you said and agree that it's also worthwhile for people still learning as the process will help develop so many different skills.
Jazza: I wasn't cleaning. I just stumbled upon it while making more mess
Me: So relatable
When I was cleaning, well when I was rummaging around making more of a mess. That is my brain!😂😂😂😂
Bella DiMuzio ?
@@Visionooor That's a quote from the video, other than the last part lol
Ur profile picture is perfect 😂😂
I think LUCY is a great tool to help get proportions correct, Best used to get a rough outline and some shading but ultimately it is up to the artist to add the finishing touches
This is like,
Imagine a general order a soldier to shoot a bullet to a culprit through a sniper
but the soldier says, ' sorry general I will need an 8x scope, gun barrel extended by an extra pipe to the end where it touches the culprit's body so the bullet has a safe passage with no interference of anything and also the culprit should be willing to be shot at'
lmao
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This comment took me on a journey i was not prepared for, but one that made me a better human being by the end of it.
I feel like the ideal use for this is would be to sketch shapes and proportions easily if you’re not a trained artist. Then you just fill in color and shading freehand.
I see it most useful as a simply setup for an outdoor landscape (like the old ass example on Wikipedia). It would let you trace on location, and it probably feels more organic than snapping a photo and powering a light box.
Still unnecessary for an artist, but probably an easy way to trace if you get used to it.
Also he's using it wrong. The subject is super faint because he's not looking at it. He's supposed to look at the subject, not the paper.
Agreed. The learning curve for producing a satisfying completed drawing or painting is enough to put some people off their artistic impulse completely. A lot of people will disagree but I think employing a tool like this can be useful while you are learning and help you understand where you are going. If you end up getting serious you can delve into honing skills with other techniques like contour drawing to learn how to better draw directly what your eye is seeing.
The Camera Obscura is a 19th century optical device often used by artists to make quick sketches in the field. ... It was used for sketching; the tracing paper was placed on the missing glass inside the folding hood, and a 45° mirror inside the box reflected the image onto the paper.
Lady in the commercial: imma draw a bowl of fruit, not too complicated and just simple shapes
Jazza: **picks what is probably the most complex and detailed model he’s ever made** ah yea that should do it
not to mention the lack of color, which adds to the difficulty of seeing contrast
That's what I was thinking - but if he honestly doesn't draw simple compositions, this is a fair test.
The beige-ness of it really put me off.
Lol
Why even need this when jazza can draw with his eyes close
Moral: be jazza
New challenge idea! You're not blindfolded so you can look at the art during the process but every time you put pen to paper you have to have your eyes closed.
@@UncleTimTheHermit lol I was just being sarcastic and salty
I also attempted to use my Lucy which I purchased about 5 years ago. I saw your video and hoped to learn how to use it. You did much better than I did. I'm thankful the cost was minimal.
I agree with comment below. I feel it is only for shapes and not for shading. You choose a difficult theme to draw. THANKS.
Jazza, love the video. Take a peek at the documentary "Tim's Vermeer" to see how they "masters" actually used the Camera Lucida method. It was very clear and allowed them to see contrast and color match as well.
I was going to mention that documentary as well! I really loved it, and it also showed, as you say, the actual method. From what I recall, the real thing doesn't involve tracing at all, just ultra accurate color blending. If i had any patience at all, I would love to try the method
I’ve been wanting him to at least review Tim’s Vermeer. Would love to see if he could use the setup that easily. Watching Tim build everything for the painting really didn’t make me think it was as easy as he made it look.
2:07 shes got it the other way round so shes looking straight forward instead of down, maybe try turning it so you can do that instead? Even the women on the sheet at 2:30 is using it differently
Yes, he seems it have it so he's looking at his paper, and seeing the reflection of the object, instead of the other way around - so you'd see the object clearly. and a reflection of the paper.
Yea... He's using it wrong... Well that's what u get when u love throwing the instructions away.
I thought this might be correct, but I think it's just models that don't know what they're supposed to be doing. If you look up how a camera lucida is supposed to work, it does look like you're supposed to be looking at the paper and seeing the reflection of the object.
I think most of the problem was that his reference was a pale monochrome object.
It actually works both ways, looking forward or looking down. I watched the Lucy commercial from Amazon again to be sure. The only thing I didn’t see Jazza try is the dark transparent film for different contrast. I wonder if that would have helped.
I haven't used it but it's for helping get the shape/proportions, not so much for shading and minor details. When I'm at work tracing something, I use that to get my base shape then I add in the details.
The effort put into this video is amazing. He didn’t draw the pictures just twice, but three times! 🥰
this effect is basically the same as the pepper's ghost effect that's used in theme parks
Ha! I just typed the same thing
I really think to do the camera lucida justice, you should use toned paper and go outside to get more natural and birghter light. Also, I'm pretty sure the tool wasn't used to create rendered images, but to help with perspective for the final painting. Cool video :) even some of the old masters used tools like this :)
Pictograph: Is this a joke
Ooh I use that btw I'm a kid
Me to
Am I a joke to you*
ron ron thats what i meant to say
@@killianbonney2971 what?
*Who made the Lucy did not use 100% of his mind.*
Thank you folks I'll be here all week!
Ha! I think I had been using the graph method for a long time without even realizing it. Usually what I do is find a reference image and then zoom in on it and put my phone behind my paper and move it around as I get the basic shapes down and then remove my phone. After that I just have the reference image on the side so I can look at it every once in a while to make sure I’m getting the basic details correct. But I usually turn my reference image becomes something completely different in my drawings, I hardly ever actually try to draw my reference exactly. The reference is usually just to get some posing right.
Missed opportunity to say “let’s lu-see how this turns out”
11:50
@@riley-wx9fj true tho
I prefer the second drawing, it has more "life" to it.
On a side note, It's so easy to see your videos now. I like not being bombarded with super high energy Jazza!!! Could also be that I'm old & curmudgeon, and thus prefer less intense energy.
I appreciate you Jazza.
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No, I don't think it's that. Since I'm feeling the same after all. His statement was so honset and now he seems to be so much more like himself.
Could also be because although I'm young, I'm also a little bit curmudgeon.
I've never heard of "curmudgeon" before. I'll add that to my vocabulary.
thank you so much for this art jack I was totally considering purchasing this thing just yesterday!! thank you for painstakingly doing those 3 drawings for me so i could get a real comparison. Much appreciated!! you saved me money!!
Yes I've seen these ads!😅😅
"a human copy machine" 🤣🤣
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@@avinashkamboj6691 shut
Me too I never really listened to them
the Lucy needs a higher contrast to work effectively, because the method being used was originally designed to be used by gaslamp or candlelight. It was meant to give the overall impression of the item or image you're replicating, but not all of the details, which is why so much victorian and edwardian artwork looks the way it does.
I don't know about the one you got, Jazza, but the one I recieved for Christmas last year came with essentially ND filters to help with clarity. Using it straight can be an absolute nightmare but with one or both filters, depending on what you're looking at, it works well. Agree with the wobble issue. I have MS and a bit of a shake now, and it was a bit of a pain for that but not unworkable.
I just received my Lucy although I haven't used it yet. I think you may have had a better image with more contrast, by using the filters and higher intensity directed light. Thanks for the demo!
Is this jazza's effort to please the algorithm? Thumbnail.
He changed it.
@@64bitshit I wonder why he changed the thumbnail? I didn't see anything wrong with it
Another fun video. I think a real test would be to set up a still life and see if Mrs. Jazza could get a passable sketch. We already know that her drawing skills are OUTSTANDING but it would still be fun. Thanks again for sharing.
Jazza says thinks like: "I hate it. I don't wanna do this again."
Inner me: Yes! I feel the same. 🤣
That's what I like in Jazzas Videos. He is honest!
He is honest in telling us he did not read the directions and then uses the device improperly, and then doesn't like it. I would rephrase your comment as "At least he is honest."
I used a small kid version of this and my friends and I could make a face in a paper and leave some spots not filled in. Then when the item your sketching make it a human and you can make overlays on them
I just watched the AR phone video and I think that a device like this mixed with a digital projection onto your lense instead of a reflection would be a really cool product for getting proper proportions in a drawing.
I would highly remind everyone watch Tim's Vermeer. He does something quite similar to make a Vermeer. Fantastic film.
You're supposed to just trace the outlines then switch to normal view to get all the details right. Also, it works better if you do the top-left first, then bottom-right, then top-right and bottom left, and then the rest, so you don't have to jump back to the original spot the whole time. And with the outline done in a sketchy way, you have everything you need to quickly make the actual drawing on scale and use your own interpretation. Its basically a substitute for the grid method, except you don't have to setup a grid and such you don't have to get rid of it later either.
I highly recommend watching the whole ad video. It’s hilarious! One of the best ads I’ve seen in my life 😂😂😂
i think you're doing it backwards, look how she's positioned the lucy thing and look at how you did it.
she's looking through it straight at the thing she's supposed to draw, you're looking straight down on the paper through it.
it might be worth doing a second take, to me that looks pretty chill if it could actually work.
right now i'm doing the awkward measuring where you hold up a pencil to compare size and scale and stuff if i ever want to "copy" from life.
If she's looking at the reference then isn't that the same as drawing from life
Some clips & images of the ad are (purposely?) misleading to appear like we can sit comfortably and look straight ahead but we can't because the view port and mirror are 90 degrees from each other, so Jazza is doing it correctly. At 2:05 the narrator says "& look down into the view hole!" meaning she was looking at the black backing right before it XD
Only way to look forwards would be by placing the subject to the left or right of where we'll be drawing and angling the mirror that direction but then needing to turn out neck every time we want to glance at the original shall be very annoying
@@mica4977 i'm not sure, i mean why would the ad do it purposely to mislead the buyer?
i think it's more like you're supposed to look at the "object" and see it more clearly and the paper is the barely visable thing that shows up instead because you're projecting the paper ontop of the object and the paper part is the thing that's gonna be barely visable, so it's completely reverse.
like you just shift the viewports, it's a 90° angle either way.
sure it might mean you won't look at your hand directly where you put pen to paper, but you still see where the pen is relative to the paper and you would probably see the object much more clearer.
i don't know, if it were me i'd try it to do it like that just to expose the falsehood of the advertisement either way.
theres a projector app that can help you out if youre interested. all you need is your phone and something to set it up so its pointing down at your paper, preferably a tripod will get you the best results.
its basically this lucy thing except you dont need to have your reference in front of you, you can just upload any image you want from camera roll and copy from that. i have ios so i dont know if its available for android. heres link: apps.apple.com/us/app/tracing-projector/id1063062393
@@mica4977 I know the narrator says to look down into the viewing hole, but when she's looking through it, you can tell it's opposite of how Jazza has it set up. The mounting point is on the top for her, and facing Jazza for him.
So she is actually looking through the hole, and not just at the side of it
Suggested use for the LUCY:
It would be much more deadly than a 3D printed sword. Shoutout from the Shad and Jazza fans!
I heard of this and I was memorized by it. It looks PERFECT for me.
You should've done this with the lights turned off.
No wonder it took Jazza 2 years to review this "tool".
Using the I Love Lucy reference made me love you even more, my all time fav show growing up and still is 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Do it as the old artist did, go outside during sunlight and bring a small tent that can give you shadow, then outline a house and a landscape and les some folk stand where you later want to insert folk (portraits), then you use this as an reference while you paint as normal. You has to remember than many artists back then was not out to make "art", some was hired to document how things looked, and every modern method (for them) to replicate something more exactly was as exciting as a drawing tablet is today.
You can see that some old classical artist where using a camera obscura and the paintings they made is a bit like photography, I do not think this is cheating and it do not make the artist to a "bad" artist, as long as the end result is something you (and other) like it is okay to outline, draw over photographs, use camera obscura or even just let a gorilla paint.
What I want to day, there is no "bad" way to be creative or to create art.
Used to draw when I was younger by printing out anime pictures and just referencing them. Like Jazza does in this video. Just looking and replicating. Didn’t realize how good of a skill that was until now lol. 😆
I've got an app on my Ipad called Camera Lucida, which works in a similar way. You position your Ipad above the paper, and it overlays a translucent image of your choice. Again, it does feel inorganic because you're drawing on the paper but looking at the screen, but even if it's just used to get the loose proportion of the subject i think it's a pretty good tool. It's not a replacement for learning proportions properly, but if you're trying to get a likeness of someone it's a good shortcut until you get better
"weird balancing act"
Me an educated dingus. ITS CALLED PARALLAX.