I received the same tent on Friday and have not pitched it yet. My crossing poles were also missing so it's great to hear Tarptent resolved this swiftly for you.
Had Scarp 2 for over a decade. Short guy lines work very well to keep end poles upright. I put silicone lines across the inner floor to keep sleep mat in place. It is by far the best backpacking tent ever. The velcro fastners for the door work very well and have never been a problem. It has been up many Munros with me and survived many storms without cross poles. I have them and never used them so removed flappy fastners on outside.
Thanks for the feedback Colin. I'll see how I get on with the short end guys but it's more to do with simple geometry. I definitely think the tie backs are an upgrade as well. As for the storm worthiness that's really reassuring to know.
Love the updates. On my 2019 model it was easy enough to make the velcro ties not toggle and loop. Loved the sound of your daughter happily playing, was looking forward to her guest appearance. It was actually the road that was more encroaching, maybe a lavelier mic? Good job overall. Last ultimate update imo would be if they added adjustability to the internal mesh vents..going to look at my own Scarp mods video now to see if the door clips are there!
Actually tarp 1 is the on I have. Another great thing is the way you can message tarp and they are super quick at getting back. Just consider time difference.
This is a superbly useful video highlighting the updated features of the 2022 model, it’s actually more helpful than the Tarptent website, well done. I have a 2019 Scarp 1 and while I think the fundamental design of the tent is excellent (strength, weight, space are all superb) I feel it really suffers from a lack of attention to detail. The 2022 model fixes three of my biggest gripes which are: the end struts falling out as you pitch the tent, the awful pockets and the lack of adjustment on the crossing pole holders. Like you I am not a fan of the stock guy lines. I think they are too short and I also don’t like that to adjust them you have to pull on the loose end of the guy line, this is awkward when wearing gloves or you have cold hands. On my tent I have replaced all the guy lines with longer 3mm Hilleberg guys and I have put Hilleberg style clam cleat line locks at the top and bottom of each pitch lock strut which makes it easier for me to adjust the tension. I also find it confusing they don’t include the side guys as standard, I’ve never seen a UK user not have to instal their own. I am pleased they have replaced the velcro tie backs on the outer doors with a toggle system. Have they done this for the inner doors too or is it still a length of cord you have to tie back yourself? I have also experienced the clips that hold the crossing poles just falling off, so I have found you have to watch the straps don’t get loose. As I say, I think the Scarp is fundamentally an excellent design but my 2019 model needs refinement. There are silly little niggles that shouldn’t have taken 3 or 4 iterations of the tent to address. I am not a cheerleader for Hilleberg but if this tent was one of their designs I feel confident they would have addressed these issues from the offset. However I am pleased to see it looks like Tarptent are listening to their customers. If they could iron out all the daft little niggles they would have an almost perfect tent. This is the first video of yours I have watched, I have subscribed and look forward to seeing what you get up to with your tent.
Thank you for that, excellent input and I agree with all those points listed. Can confirm the inner door is still the old style elastic straps, weirdly I don't mind them to be honest but why not just duplicate the new outer tie backs? In my experience there isn't the perfect tent, but some (like the scarp) could be close with the refinements they've made and the ones you refer to as well. I think it would also potentially benefit from metal pole strap tensioners for extra strength/longevity at a tiny weight penalty. Especially given they're on a critical point of the tent.
That's weird they haven't changed the inner door tiebacks, strange decision to change the outer but not the inner. I completely agree about having metal pole strap tensioners. Thanks for the repply and I hope you get on well with your new tent.
Gained a subscriber! waiting on the rest of the videos now! Loved the review and truly have me sold on the scarp 1 as my next upgrade! My problem is actually getting it considering they're in such high demand... I saw a little hack involving the noise prone cross-pole clips too, if you attach them to a couple of hairbands they stay noise free and saves you having to remove them when not in use!
I’ve not even used my Scarp 1 yet, and the updates are here already 😂🙄 I’m thinking of modifying the internal pockets. As for the other updates, I can live without them. Although I’d be interested to know how the material differs.
Great review thanks - I just got mine, and agree about the guying, I'll make the same mods to mine. Also a bit disappointed that the crossing poles have been 'upgraded' for the 2022 edition to the same gauge aluminium tubing as the arch pole. This adds 96g to the weight over that of the previous crossing poles, which is not insubstantial. I asked Tarptent why they've done this, and Henry replied that it was because they've dropped the lighter gauge poles from the rest of their range so it didn't make sense to stock it just for the Scarp's crossing poles. That apart, I'm really thrilled with this tent and look forward to using it soon.
I think for the sake of 96g I'd be willing to make sacrifices elsewhere for the extra strength in the crossing poles. Let me know what you think once you've been out!
@@mandoesmountains What I meant was that Tarptent didn't increase the crossing pole weight to increase their strength (there were no issues I've heard of with the strength of the existing units), but purely because they don't see it as a convenient option to continue procuring the lighter gauge. 96g is a lot (to some of us) - if there are 96g 'sacrifices' to be safely made elsewhere I hope I've already done that! Elsewhere in Henry's written reply he assures me that crossing poles are entirely unnecessary unless snow loading is expected - not quite the same as what it says on his website, and certainly not what most experienced users report.
Thanks Chris. I plumped for this over the soulo for the extra room and to save a bit on pack weight. I'm sure a soulo would be stronger but having seen these in use in Scottish winters I'm sure it'll cope with anything I'll be out in.
Thank you for such an in depth critique of this. Those lines are indeed very short - I really hope they didn't do that just so the overall sales weight of the tent was kept down, knowing full well the buyer would need to replace it. I'm strongly considering the Scarp 2. Shame there's no UK dealer to go through.
The inner tent pockets are loads better. The older ones are about good enough to store a pair of sunglasses in it a headtorch. I’ve had my a year now and I think it’s a fantastic tent. I’ve even had my 9 year old little girl wildcamping with me up kinder scout. ( use a 3/4 pad for guest) 😂
Hi. Great walk through. I was one of the first users of Scarp 2 here in Norway back in 2010/11, and is was love at first site. However, I found out that carbon crossing poles was not the wisest choice when lighting strike hiking above threeline on flat exposed plateaus. Without the crossing poles, all eight straps/connectors for the poles was driving me mad in heavy wind as they "drummed" and scratched the outer tent. So had to let it go, and made a great gift for my nephew as a starter tent under the threline.
I guess any tent in a storm could become a lightning rod in all honesty. With the cross pole straps, I intend to secure them with a loop of bungee cord to prevent that very issue when not in use!
@@mandoesmountains Not really, the carbon material is the danger, aluminum poles not so much. Hope you find a smart solution to reduce noise from those connector straps, and please share🤞.
@@rasmuspedersen3563 Sorry, another login. I gave it away as I mainly hike above the treeline on plateaus/mountains were I'm more exposed to extreme weather. Tarp or lightweight summer tent is my prefered choice under the treeline.
Well said. Regretfully I didn't order extra guys for the ridge pole and front and back panels. I had a nightmare with UPS getting the tent so am reluctant to order from the US. Any recommendations for a UK supplier? And any advice how to fix? Rgds Imran
@@trytheoutdoors I sourced my pole arch guy lines from Valley and Peak. They stock the same Lawson guy lines as on the tent already. Great service from a small UK based company. You can also get clamcleats for very cheap off eBay. Relatively simple job to fix them.
Really good video, thanks. Any updates on that tent? Are you planning to post a long term review? As a potential buyer of that tent and the current hilleberg user I’d like to get her as much info as possible
I ended up moving it on, not because it was a bad tent, but because I was trying to find a "unicorn" in one tent to do it all. I later realised I'd be better with a heavier tent for winter conditions and a lighter one for summer/spring.
I just got this tent as well. I don’t think you can lengthen the pitchlock guylines if you plan on using the optional crossing poles unfortunately. You would alter the angle of the crossing poles and they wouldn’t push up high enough againstthe main arch pole (not sure if that makes sense, a bit hard to explain). You can extend the guyline that is between the two ends (between the corner pitchlocks), I think it would help although Henry says it wouldn’t make a difference surprisingly. Anyhow great overview of the vid. Cheers from California 👍
Potentially an issue but I'm not talking about lengthening the pitchlock guys so long as to make it a very shallow angle. Also with the moveable crossing pile grommets on line loc tensioners I think it would be less of an issue. What do you like/dislike about the Scarp Alex?
@@mandoesmountains Sounds good, Please let me know if you could, I was thinking the same thing as you; that they seem a bit short. Especially after using a Hilleberg tent… A couple of things I wish were different: 1. A fly the extends even more to the ground. 2. The guyline attachments on the main arch aren’t sewed in the direction of where the pegs would go, Instead they’re sewed in at 90 degrees. It seems like that would place uneven tension on them and could potentially cause some issues in strong winds. Other than that the tent seems to be great. I can’t wait to use it in a good storm to see how it handles 😃
Thanks for that Paul. Yes, there are pegging point on each of the panels, I'll cover this in a future review, but you'd need a bit of shock cord on each.
Hi Jough, took around 5 days to arrive from dispatch. Duty was around £66. Bare in mind duty is calculated based on total order value including shipping, so it depends on what options you go for and what level of shipping you choose.
Mine too. I recall reading Henry Shires’ response to the same concern; he explained the engineering maths behind it: basically the 45 angle effectively clamps the pitchlok to the ground. Lessening the angle means the ends lose some stability in high winds. Maybe better to weigh the pegs down instead?
Hi Martin I ordered on 26th of October and it was delivered on 12th of November. That said I didn't pay for priority shipping and seam sealing added about 2 weeks to the order time. I wasn't in a rush to receive it though so no doubt you could get it quick with priority shipping and seam sealing yourself.
Awesome video mate, thank you (and damn you) for convincing me to get this tent! Can I be cheeky and ask what the final cost was for the tent with import duty added on etc? There’s a calc on the website but I don’t know how accurate it is. Also…how long did it take to arrive? Cheers and looking forward to more videos! Atb, Ryan
@@mandoesmountains I have the 2019 version, appreciated the updates review. The new version really does address some small issues You will love that tent.
@@mandoesmountains I looked up when I bought my scarp 1 it was 2016. It came with the 9mm pole but the sleeve is tight. The pockets are too small and in the wrong place. The clips for the cross over poles were hard to use especially in the cold. I have since replaced the clips for the cross over poles. Dont get me wrong, I love my scarp. Its small things and they appear to be been fixed in the new version. Not sure about the sleeve for the pole to sit in, could be a little longer for my liking but again that's very minor. I do like the extra tie outs as it would make the scarp a much more livable and stable tent in strong winds.
Around £66 total Shawn. You have to bear in mind import taxes are based on total order value including shipping costs. Think total cost for this with the tax was just over £500
@@xjessukx comparable to other similar tents cost wise like the Fjallraven Abisko Lite 1 and still cheaper that a Hilleberg Akto while being lighter and bigger inside.
Is it me??? I have several tents (I mean, who doesn't?!?!?) but have been looking for an all season tent (for a good year and a half) with enough room for the dawg and me and just think Hillebergs, whilst great, are both small, seemingly flappy, heavier and ridiculously expensive?!?!?!? This, at half the price seems too good to be true? There have been loads of reviews, almost all extremely positive.... but will this REALLY hold up to the worst of the UK weather? Thanks in advance for replies...
I had this out in some quite bad weather and it shrugged it off with ease. I know a lot of Scottish YT channels rate this tent and they get some truly wild weather.
Thank you so much for this update review mate!🙏
No problem!
I received the same tent on Friday and have not pitched it yet. My crossing poles were also missing so it's great to hear Tarptent resolved this swiftly for you.
Nathan yeah they were really responsive over email.
Had Scarp 2 for over a decade. Short guy lines work very well to keep end poles upright. I put silicone lines across the inner floor to keep sleep mat in place. It is by far the best backpacking tent ever. The velcro fastners for the door work very well and have never been a problem. It has been up many Munros with me and survived many storms without cross poles. I have them and never used them so removed flappy fastners on outside.
Thanks for the feedback Colin. I'll see how I get on with the short end guys but it's more to do with simple geometry. I definitely think the tie backs are an upgrade as well. As for the storm worthiness that's really reassuring to know.
Hi
Thinking about the Scarp 2 as a 2man tent for the Scottish Hills, how do you get on with it
Love the updates. On my 2019 model it was easy enough to make the velcro ties not toggle and loop. Loved the sound of your daughter happily playing, was looking forward to her guest appearance. It was actually the road that was more encroaching, maybe a lavelier mic? Good job overall. Last ultimate update imo would be if they added adjustability to the internal mesh vents..going to look at my own Scarp mods video now to see if the door clips are there!
Thanks Dave. First video so plenty of room for improvement!
I hope the Scarp 2 gets also all the same updates. I emailed Henry about it just now. He is a top guy.
@BandofBros I just hope they fix the issue with the crossing poles being a tight fit
@@mandoesmountains Yes he released a kit with adjustable ties for the Scarp 1, I am sure he will do that for the Scarp 2.
Actually tarp 1 is the on I have. Another great thing is the way you can message tarp and they are super quick at getting back. Just consider time difference.
Cheers , I have the Notch Li but still interested in this tent for winter one nighters. Look forward to seeing it on a camp.
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Looking to get out weekend after next Dave. Watch this space!
Great review, ordered mine a few days ago, cant wait looks a fabulous tent.
Be interested to see how you get on with it!
This is a superbly useful video highlighting the updated features of the 2022 model, it’s actually more helpful than the Tarptent website, well done.
I have a 2019 Scarp 1 and while I think the fundamental design of the tent is excellent (strength, weight, space are all superb) I feel it really suffers from a lack of attention to detail. The 2022 model fixes three of my biggest gripes which are: the end struts falling out as you pitch the tent, the awful pockets and the lack of adjustment on the crossing pole holders.
Like you I am not a fan of the stock guy lines. I think they are too short and I also don’t like that to adjust them you have to pull on the loose end of the guy line, this is awkward when wearing gloves or you have cold hands. On my tent I have replaced all the guy lines with longer 3mm Hilleberg guys and I have put Hilleberg style clam cleat line locks at the top and bottom of each pitch lock strut which makes it easier for me to adjust the tension. I also find it confusing they don’t include the side guys as standard, I’ve never seen a UK user not have to instal their own.
I am pleased they have replaced the velcro tie backs on the outer doors with a toggle system. Have they done this for the inner doors too or is it still a length of cord you have to tie back yourself?
I have also experienced the clips that hold the crossing poles just falling off, so I have found you have to watch the straps don’t get loose.
As I say, I think the Scarp is fundamentally an excellent design but my 2019 model needs refinement. There are silly little niggles that shouldn’t have taken 3 or 4 iterations of the tent to address. I am not a cheerleader for Hilleberg but if this tent was one of their designs I feel confident they would have addressed these issues from the offset. However I am pleased to see it looks like Tarptent are listening to their customers. If they could iron out all the daft little niggles they would have an almost perfect tent. This is the first video of yours I have watched, I have subscribed and look forward to seeing what you get up to with your tent.
Thank you for that, excellent input and I agree with all those points listed.
Can confirm the inner door is still the old style elastic straps, weirdly I don't mind them to be honest but why not just duplicate the new outer tie backs?
In my experience there isn't the perfect tent, but some (like the scarp) could be close with the refinements they've made and the ones you refer to as well.
I think it would also potentially benefit from metal pole strap tensioners for extra strength/longevity at a tiny weight penalty. Especially given they're on a critical point of the tent.
That's weird they haven't changed the inner door tiebacks, strange decision to change the outer but not the inner. I completely agree about having metal pole strap tensioners. Thanks for the repply and I hope you get on well with your new tent.
Well said Mr PR. Must get round to legthening my guys. I wonder if you can buy the X pole end fix from TT?
Gained a subscriber! waiting on the rest of the videos now! Loved the review and truly have me sold on the scarp 1 as my next upgrade! My problem is actually getting it considering they're in such high demand...
I saw a little hack involving the noise prone cross-pole clips too, if you attach them to a couple of hairbands they stay noise free and saves you having to remove them when not in use!
I’ve not even used my Scarp 1 yet, and the updates are here already 😂🙄
I’m thinking of modifying the internal pockets. As for the other updates, I can live without them. Although I’d be interested to know how the material differs.
Great review thanks - I just got mine, and agree about the guying, I'll make the same mods to mine. Also a bit disappointed that the crossing poles have been 'upgraded' for the 2022 edition to the same gauge aluminium tubing as the arch pole. This adds 96g to the weight over that of the previous crossing poles, which is not insubstantial. I asked Tarptent why they've done this, and Henry replied that it was because they've dropped the lighter gauge poles from the rest of their range so it didn't make sense to stock it just for the Scarp's crossing poles. That apart, I'm really thrilled with this tent and look forward to using it soon.
I think for the sake of 96g I'd be willing to make sacrifices elsewhere for the extra strength in the crossing poles. Let me know what you think once you've been out!
@@mandoesmountains What I meant was that Tarptent didn't increase the crossing pole weight to increase their strength (there were no issues I've heard of with the strength of the existing units), but purely because they don't see it as a convenient option to continue procuring the lighter gauge. 96g is a lot (to some of us) - if there are 96g 'sacrifices' to be safely made elsewhere I hope I've already done that!
Elsewhere in Henry's written reply he assures me that crossing poles are entirely unnecessary unless snow loading is expected - not quite the same as what it says on his website, and certainly not what most experienced users report.
Good overview mate - I would like one of these very much....... maybe one day. ATB, Chris
Thanks Chris. I plumped for this over the soulo for the extra room and to save a bit on pack weight. I'm sure a soulo would be stronger but having seen these in use in Scottish winters I'm sure it'll cope with anything I'll be out in.
@@mandoesmountains yeah, with the crossing poles it's very strong indeed. Enjoy 👍
Thanks is was a great video.The Tent look really good.
Thank you! Definitely a good balance of strength and weight!
Thank you for such an in depth critique of this. Those lines are indeed very short - I really hope they didn't do that just so the overall sales weight of the tent was kept down, knowing full well the buyer would need to replace it.
I'm strongly considering the Scarp 2. Shame there's no UK dealer to go through.
Scarp 2 is a weaker tent compared to the 1 I think. Would 100% need to crossing poles in bad weather.
Really useful video this mate! Nice to see you on here too. Subbed 😊
Alan might we be seeing you back in a Scarp 1 soon? 😂
@@mandoesmountains ordered it a few days ago 🤣
@@adge_ventures4915 you're bonkers! But in a good way, haha
The inner tent pockets are loads better. The older ones are about good enough to store a pair of sunglasses in it a headtorch.
I’ve had my a year now and I think it’s a fantastic tent.
I’ve even had my 9 year old little girl wildcamping with me up kinder scout. ( use a 3/4 pad for guest) 😂
Yeah I never got the design of the old pockets to be honest
Hi. Great walk through. I was one of the first users of Scarp 2 here in Norway back in 2010/11, and is was love at first site. However, I found out that carbon crossing poles was not the wisest choice when lighting strike hiking above threeline on flat exposed plateaus. Without the crossing poles, all eight straps/connectors for the poles was driving me mad in heavy wind as they "drummed" and scratched the outer tent. So had to let it go, and made a great gift for my nephew as a starter tent under the threline.
I guess any tent in a storm could become a lightning rod in all honesty.
With the cross pole straps, I intend to secure them with a loop of bungee cord to prevent that very issue when not in use!
@@mandoesmountains Not really, the carbon material is the danger, aluminum poles not so much.
Hope you find a smart solution to reduce noise from those connector straps, and please share🤞.
Well you are still alive so i guess those carbon poles apparently werent an issue?
@@rasmuspedersen3563 Sorry, another login. I gave it away as I mainly hike above the treeline on plateaus/mountains were I'm more exposed to extreme weather. Tarp or lightweight summer tent is my prefered choice under the treeline.
Looks a great tent.. which inner is being used here?
This is the "solid" inner
I've just bought the scarp 1 so will follow your journey with interest. I was looking to see if anyone had used the tent in storm Anwen!!
Considered going out this weekend but it's no fun summit camping in those sorts of conditions, dangerous in fact, even with the right gear.
Well said.
Regretfully I didn't order extra guys for the ridge pole and front and back panels. I had a nightmare with UPS getting the tent so am reluctant to order from the US. Any recommendations for a UK supplier? And any advice how to fix?
Rgds
Imran
@@trytheoutdoors I sourced my pole arch guy lines from Valley and Peak. They stock the same Lawson guy lines as on the tent already. Great service from a small UK based company.
You can also get clamcleats for very cheap off eBay. Relatively simple job to fix them.
Thanks buddy, great review. Good luck with the channel. Subbed 👍
Thanks Lee, hope it helped!
Really good video, thanks. Any updates on that tent? Are you planning to post a long term review? As a potential buyer of that tent and the current hilleberg user I’d like to get her as much info as possible
I ended up moving it on, not because it was a bad tent, but because I was trying to find a "unicorn" in one tent to do it all. I later realised I'd be better with a heavier tent for winter conditions and a lighter one for summer/spring.
I just got this tent as well.
I don’t think you can lengthen the pitchlock guylines if you plan on using the optional crossing poles unfortunately. You would alter the angle of the crossing poles and they wouldn’t push up high enough againstthe main arch pole (not sure if that makes sense, a bit hard to explain). You can extend the guyline that is between the two ends (between the corner pitchlocks), I think it would help although Henry says it wouldn’t make a difference surprisingly.
Anyhow great overview of the vid. Cheers from California 👍
Potentially an issue but I'm not talking about lengthening the pitchlock guys so long as to make it a very shallow angle. Also with the moveable crossing pile grommets on line loc tensioners I think it would be less of an issue.
What do you like/dislike about the Scarp Alex?
@@mandoesmountains Sounds good, Please let me know if you could, I was thinking the same thing as you; that they seem a bit short. Especially after using a Hilleberg tent…
A couple of things I wish were different:
1. A fly the extends even more to the ground.
2. The guyline attachments on the main arch aren’t sewed in the direction of where the pegs would go, Instead they’re sewed in at 90 degrees. It seems like that would place uneven tension on them and could potentially cause some issues in strong winds.
Other than that the tent seems to be great. I can’t wait to use it in a good storm to see how it handles 😃
Great review, really helpful so thanks for that. Quick question, are there pegging point at the bottom of the flysheet on the doors and side panels?
Thanks for that Paul.
Yes, there are pegging point on each of the panels, I'll cover this in a future review, but you'd need a bit of shock cord on each.
Hi a couple of questions. how long did it take to come and what duty did you pay ? thanks
Hi Jough, took around 5 days to arrive from dispatch. Duty was around £66. Bare in mind duty is calculated based on total order value including shipping, so it depends on what options you go for and what level of shipping you choose.
My understanding is that a 45 angle IS the strongest.
Mine too. I recall reading Henry Shires’ response to the same concern; he explained the engineering maths behind it: basically the 45 angle effectively clamps the pitchlok to the ground. Lessening the angle means the ends lose some stability in high winds. Maybe better to weigh the pegs down instead?
Nice preview. How long did it take to arrive?
Hi Martin I ordered on 26th of October and it was delivered on 12th of November.
That said I didn't pay for priority shipping and seam sealing added about 2 weeks to the order time. I wasn't in a rush to receive it though so no doubt you could get it quick with priority shipping and seam sealing yourself.
Awesome video mate, thank you (and damn you) for convincing me to get this tent! Can I be cheeky and ask what the final cost was for the tent with import duty added on etc? There’s a calc on the website but I don’t know how accurate it is. Also…how long did it take to arrive? Cheers and looking forward to more videos! Atb, Ryan
He said (in another thread) over £500, of which £66 was import tax.
@@darthkek1953 perfect! Thank you buddy 👍🏼
thanks good review
Thanks Sean. Looking to do a full review once I've had it in the wilds too. Anything you'd like covering?
@@mandoesmountains I have the 2019 version, appreciated the updates review. The new version really does address some small issues You will love that tent.
@@seanhounslow1313 what grumbles or foibles have you found with your version?
@@mandoesmountains I looked up when I bought my scarp 1 it was 2016. It came with the 9mm pole but the sleeve is tight. The pockets are too small and in the wrong place. The clips for the cross over poles were hard to use especially in the cold. I have since replaced the clips for the cross over poles. Dont get me wrong, I love my scarp. Its small things and they appear to be been fixed in the new version. Not sure about the sleeve for the pole to sit in, could be a little longer for my liking but again that's very minor. I do like the extra tie outs as it would make the scarp a much more livable and stable tent in strong winds.
How much did the import tax sting you for?
Around £66 total Shawn. You have to bear in mind import taxes are based on total order value including shipping costs.
Think total cost for this with the tax was just over £500
@@mandoesmountains thanks
@@xjessukx comparable to other similar tents cost wise like the Fjallraven Abisko Lite 1 and still cheaper that a Hilleberg Akto while being lighter and bigger inside.
Is it me??? I have several tents (I mean, who doesn't?!?!?) but have been looking for an all season tent (for a good year and a half) with enough room for the dawg and me and just think Hillebergs, whilst great, are both small, seemingly flappy, heavier and ridiculously expensive?!?!?!? This, at half the price seems too good to be true? There have been loads of reviews, almost all extremely positive.... but will this REALLY hold up to the worst of the UK weather? Thanks in advance for replies...
I had this out in some quite bad weather and it shrugged it off with ease. I know a lot of Scottish YT channels rate this tent and they get some truly wild weather.