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1.1kg is about 2.5lbs

I don't have the any longer Scarp, no. My personal view is if I want a lightweight tent I keep that to summer and shoulder season where the weather isn't so extreme. In the Winter I'm happy to carry the extra weight for the space and security of the StormStar. I think the Scarp can take some very harsh weather, especially with the crossing poles but it's not as robust as the SS to give that piece of mind.

@@Roadie1980 missed this! It's probably overkill for the summer, but that said in the UK it can be so unpredictable and a hoolie can roll in at anytime. With the outer doors open and the mess inner doors exposed you might get enough ventilation to make it work in summer if you wanted a "do it all" tent.

@@mrnobodieswildcampingadventure yeah the "unflappiness" is a big pro in my mind.

This is my second from them and been impressed with both in fairness.

Hello! There's a definite trick to both, the c-clamp are much easier if you squeeze them in you palm. The pole sleeves you just need to pinch them at the bottom to open them up as well. All tents have their idiosyncrasies and this is no different, but the benefits outweigh them IMO Cheers.

@@mandoesmountains Thanks for the advice. Very helpful. Wishing safe journeys!

I don't always drink on a camp, just in case I need to bug out if the weather becomes really bad. But being as the rugby was on thought it was rude not to have a couple 😄

Thanks but I'm not interested in moving it on right now. There is one for sale on Facebook right now though!

Hi Gary, Inner dimensions are actually 218cm, but the end walls are quite steep, so I've found no issues at 185cm / 6'1 tall for me personally. I'd have to check the fly vent zips to be sure in all honesty, but there's a nice storm flap to protect them and the inner has a DWR coating as well.

Thank you! All the best with your adventures.

Yeah I looked at it about 12months ago, but was also hesitant due to a lack of reviews. But based on my experience so far I think it's ideal for UK Autumn/Winter/Spring conditions.

Yes I've owned a couple of Hilles, an Unna and a Soulo. I loved the simplicity and the space of the Unna, but in truth, it was susceptible to wind with the big side panels. Soulo is bombproof, but cramped and flappy as hell, not a comfortable night out IMHO. I love Hilleberg as a brand but do feel a lot of their designs are outdated and they rely on their reputation a little bit too much. Storm Star seems to strike a nice balance, it's not perfect (no tent is!) by any means as I showed in the video. But for weight vs strength vs space it's pretty hard to beat at the current price point I think.

Thanks Dave

Thank you! Always great to connect with like-minded people.

My pleasure @@mandoesmountains

Yeah the Eastern Carneddau is a little underloved, but it's a great area and often much quieter. As I said in the video, think I'll invest in some more Eastons for piece of mind. The as is supplied pegs aren't bad by any means, I just prefer that security.

It was recently £480 delivered in the January sale, which I think is amazing value. Regards your comparisons, the MSR Access is nowhere near as strong. Great tent, just not necessarily for above treeline. Soulo - obviously great quality but nearly double the price and half the space. I genuinely don't think there is a better value 4 season tent this strong and roomy right now.

@@mandoesmountains I'd pick one up right now for that price!

@@iles1995 absolute nobrainer at that money, half the price of a Soulo for almost the same quality!

@@mandoesmountains Totally agree MSR tents are not to be taken seriously for mountain winter high wind conditions, unless you like to gamble with your safety!

Great video and subbed. Love the Storm Star, that inner is drum tight. May need to see if I can get one for me and the missus. Glad the UCO worked for you too and thanks for the mention ATB A

@AndrewParkOutdoors it would fit two nicely I think. Certainly not a back packing tent, but for mountainous overnighters in winter, perfect I think.

Thanks Chris. It'd interested me for a while but I had a full geodesic Crux Storm as my winter tent. An opportunity came up to move that on and so invested in one of these. At its sale price of £480 I think it's absolutely insane value but also tough to be beat for strength vs weight.

I agree. I managed to nab mine on black Friday last year.I got the ground sheet,gear loft and tent for a smidge over £500 . Bargain. On a sub note. I was out with a mate of mine on Dartmoor.He was in his Hille and my fat arse was in the Kuiu, it was blowing a hooley and he didn't sleep a wink because of the inner flappage. I slept like a baby(obviously not drink induced😅). I have subbed and I look forward to going through you back catalogue. Take care.Chris.

@robwithdogoutdoors this would live with most Hille black labels in terms of stability I think, only really possibly loses out in durability of the materials used on the fly. If you liked the Allak layout but not the weight or stability, this is nearly half a kilo lighter and to my mind stronger than an Allak.

I've not had it in anything too gnarly yet, but it's taken everything thrown at it in it's stride.

Yes, solid inner

It's a nice off sage colour. To be honest I do prefer my red / orange tents.

Hello sir, how would you recommend double rainbow li vs mid 2p pro vs this one?

@@ahamao Get the Tarptent Double Rainbow Li. You won't be disappointed.

@@dansworld9635hey, quick question on the dw li. Do you find condensation an issue? Is the liner effective? Are you ok with the smaller vestibule size? Finally, why do you prefer it to the strat ultra? Thanks!

@@AlexiMos-gh5hq All tents suffer from condensation. There's no way around it. The dyneema tents are all the same in that you obviously don't want to touch the tent wall when its wet. The Tarptent DoubleRainbow Li is great in that the walls are more vertical. I did not really care for the DoubleRainbow's liner. So I don't use it.

Plenty of room when seated, I'm 6'1 / 185cm and there was room above my head even when seated on my mat.

In all honesty I don't know. I'll do some research and come back at you.

Nice suggestion on the magnet fix for the tie backs! I think if I was going for a longer trip or winter I'd put the tent under the Y strap on my Atom+, or my winter pack has extra room on the sides that would accommodate it for sure.

Interesting comments, Phil. I have a Scarp Ultra arriving this week and planned to add additional stronger magnets based on other comments I've read online. I'll hang fire for now given your experience and see how I get on. I just DCF taped them on over the original magnets my Notch lie - I always roll the doors on that but it still needed stronger magnets. Not certain why Henry doesn't fit them as standard as so many mention the issue - hardly adds to the weight!!! Often thought about Coledale Hause as a spot to pitch then thought "nah, always too windy". Perhaps I will this year.

How is the tent holding over time? I am considering to buy it, but there are few reviews out there

Yes, but it's a 2 person version. There's every possibility they make the 1 person version of the SS in this material.

I recently asked Tarptent if they plan to make a Stratospire 1 in DCF or Ultra in 2024, and Henry answered that they don't have such plans as of now.

Difficult to say yet. I need to get out in some more challenging weather with this to assess. On first use I think I prefer the "space" of the square foot and head ends on the scarp, but this has lots of real estate and much larger vestibules to stretch out in.

I have to say I think the Stratospire is almost as strong as the scarp and lighter.

I'm 185cm, but my sleeping pad is a long/wide so is longer at 196cm. At your height and with a pad that size you'd probably need to sleep diagonally in this.

@@mandoesmountains thanks!

Most trekking poles are much stronger than traditional tent poles. Also, the shape of this design means it's very "slippery" in terms of wind. Disclaimer is I've not tested this in really high winds yet, but with the design and material, I'd be confident of it handling pretty rough conditions.

​@@mandoesmountainshmm... I remember my lanshan being almost flattened in dartmoor.. and then I remember spending a night on pen y fan in helm1.. I would not wanna be in a lanshan then..

@vvs3796 in fairness a lanshan is not 4 season tent. Great for overnights or trekking in the summer, but a different beast to this.

@@mandoesmountains yes, I assume so.. that's why I was looking into smth with a better design. just not sure. is silnilon version of stratospire is tough enough, what do you think? all I know is that European tents are generally stronger and suit UK weather better..

@@mandoesmountains also it s not just abt 4 seasons.. Its abt wind resistance first of all.. being able to withstand strong gusts without me holding poles from inside.. lol

I think you could reduce the pack size by removing the struts, but that would also be a fiddle. Unfortunately like any tent design or material there are compromises, and here I think the strengths of the material outweigh the larger packed size. Something to be aware of for sure, but a compromise I'm willing to make for the benefits in UK conditions. Hoping to get out again soon!

@@mandoesmountains Definitely looks a good all rounder for the uk and an impressive weight for the space you get. I’ve got my hands busy with my Trailstar and xmid for now but it’s certainly a contender for my next tent in the future. Happy trails.

@davegoodman1959 I think that's one of the advantages of this new material, if Henry releases it in 1P shelters as well it'll provide more strength to weight like DCF, but at a lower price point.

This is the "solid" inner

Scarp 2 is a weaker tent compared to the 1 I think. Would 100% need to crossing poles in bad weather.

I ended up moving it on, not because it was a bad tent, but because I was trying to find a "unicorn" in one tent to do it all. I later realised I'd be better with a heavier tent for winter conditions and a lighter one for summer/spring.

@BandofBros I just hope they fix the issue with the crossing poles being a tight fit

@@mandoesmountains Yes he released a kit with adjustable ties for the Scarp 1, I am sure he will do that for the Scarp 2.

Thanks for the feedback Colin. I'll see how I get on with the short end guys but it's more to do with simple geometry. I definitely think the tie backs are an upgrade as well. As for the storm worthiness that's really reassuring to know.

Hi Thinking about the Scarp 2 as a 2man tent for the Scottish Hills, how do you get on with it

Hi Jough, took around 5 days to arrive from dispatch. Duty was around £66. Bare in mind duty is calculated based on total order value including shipping, so it depends on what options you go for and what level of shipping you choose.

No problem!

Thanks Dave. First video so plenty of room for improvement!

Mine too. I recall reading Henry Shires’ response to the same concern; he explained the engineering maths behind it: basically the 45 angle effectively clamps the pitchlok to the ground. Lessening the angle means the ends lose some stability in high winds. Maybe better to weigh the pegs down instead?