2018 Ford Expedition vs GMC Yukon: Which Truck Gets Better MPG Towing?

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  • @timon0x31
    @timon0x31 6 років тому +38

    Face it, most people that have Expeditions, and that care about milage, don't have them for work vehicles. So I don't really care about those pulling cargo and horse trailers over shorter distances. I want to see a test pulling a travel trailer, that has a good aerodynamic front cap, loaded to around 8,500 pounds, with 1,000 pounds (including driver) added above the vehicles curb weight and keeping the speed between 55 and 60 mph. That would be a more real world test for someone traveling around the country with their family. Now that's a fair test. Also, forget always using the highest model in the line. Stay with the more common models like the XLS but with the max towing package. Basically an Expedition that's priced at around 65K.

    • @workct4102
      @workct4102 Рік тому +2

      I can tell you that we used our 18 Expy Max, 4x4, 3.73 to tow our 24' TT (around 5500#) from WI to ID and back (4500 miles). We averaged 9.8 mpg...Family of 5, 2 dogs, 5 bikes and whatever clothes and food....

  • @zach4321
    @zach4321 6 років тому +7

    This video showed just how unbiased you guys are and people still try to find ways to complain. Keep up the good videos!

    • @3sons66
      @3sons66 5 років тому

      Right...regular length Ford vs. GMC XL (completely the same, right?) 2 people on the first run and 1 person the second (completely the same, right?). Nathan is a cheeseburger short of 3 hunge and it's all unbiased. Righhhhht.

  • @djaftermath4313
    @djaftermath4313 5 років тому +39

    I'd still get the Expedition!

  • @stevenhugley4025
    @stevenhugley4025 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for showing the wind verses no wind. It would’ve been easy to leave that out of this video, but you guys gave full disclosure.

  • @stinkycheese804
    @stinkycheese804 6 років тому +33

    The important thing to take from this video is not which gets better MPG towing, it is that they are both similar enough that you should choose the one you like more for other reasons instead.

    • @phild9813
      @phild9813 Рік тому

      Yeah definitely. A person shouldn’t be buying one of these primarily for towing anyway, but they are fairly capable.

  • @billymc2681
    @billymc2681 6 років тому +44

    The 3.73 gear is the difference maker. I have a 2015 F150 with 2.7 Ecoboost and can vouch that once the turbos get going (which is around 60-65mph) mpg will suffer.
    Kudos to GM ...never thought a 6.2 would get those numbers.

    • @chevyon37s
      @chevyon37s 6 років тому +4

      billy mc no it's not. With the 10 speed there is more than enough gear in the transmission. The lower axle gears make for more mechanical advantage so less work for the engine especially when towing, and city driving. It's pretty well a given you'll get better fuel mileage driving 60-65mph rather than 70+ due to wind resistance.

    • @TheDaltonmichaels
      @TheDaltonmichaels 6 років тому +2

      billy mc. That's a ridiculous assumption assuming you have no idea what gear it was driving in.

    • @chevyon37s
      @chevyon37s 6 років тому

      Dalton Michaels yup. I'm assuming it was in 5-7th gear most of the time pulling anyways. And higher "highway" gearing would just mean the transmission would be in an even lower gear to make up the difference.

    • @TheDaltonmichaels
      @TheDaltonmichaels 6 років тому

      i would assume the suburban was in 5th or 6th the EXP was probably in 7th or maybe even 8th. i wish they would have told us. everyone in the comments is saying gear ratios made the difference and i cant agree with that unless we knew what gears the cars were driving in and the ratios of said gears. a 3.73 in 7th gear could be the exact same final drive ratio as a 3.42 in 5th gear.

    • @windrider65
      @windrider65 6 років тому +1

      And the average RPM's during the 98 mile test. V8 V6, is like apples and oranges. Plus the total weight of SUV, trailer and passengers. it all plays a part in the overall MPG's.

  • @OverlandTT
    @OverlandTT 6 років тому +4

    Great test and I was really pleased to see Andre at the end do the Ford again.
    Personally I'd go for the gmc with the V8. Do for do the expedition with a V8?
    Also could TFL maybe publish your daily combined mpg cycle for day to day driving. I'd be interested as in looking for to possibly import.
    Thanks guys awesome review! 👍

  • @1mlb704
    @1mlb704 6 років тому +5

    Wow very cool comparison. I'm more of a GM guy but I work at a Ford dealership, and I've driven several F-150's and Expeditions with the 3.5L EcoBoosts and I am seriously impressed. They are very potent and so far proving to be pretty reliable as well. Still, amazing to see the mighty 6.2L N/A V8 beat out the EcoBoost in an MPG loop

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 Рік тому +1

      The ecoboosts are not proving to be reliable long term, which is what a truck/truck-like SUV ought to be. Unless you want to throw a few thousand dollars into problems down the road.

  • @clintmiller88
    @clintmiller88 6 років тому +1

    Have you guys ever seen if tow haul mode being off affects mpg? Would be cool video

  • @polustka
    @polustka 6 років тому

    Great True Comparison- not those sticker ratings. Thank you for doing it!

  • @cdawg3506
    @cdawg3506 5 років тому +13

    I love the new GM suv's, but the new Expedition is so much better

  • @bobforce8317
    @bobforce8317 6 років тому

    Great work! I really wonder what my 2wd 04 Yukon would achieve on that test loop with the smaller V8

  • @mountainhobo
    @mountainhobo 6 років тому +2

    I can't help but wonder what mpg a 5.0 would get here if they offered it with this new transmission and in this aluminum body.

  • @MultiPurposeReviewer
    @MultiPurposeReviewer 6 років тому +20

    I do not understand what people in these comments are whining about. A bunch of people are saying TFL is biased against GM; the Expedition had two tries and the GM truck STILL won! Why are you whining? These are the trucks they're given. Also, take a look at the trucks they actually buy and sell themselves: They sold the (Ford) Bronco, they sold the (Ford) Hiboy, and they're selling the (Ford) Raptor. Meanwhile, they bought a (GM) Big Green, they bought a (GM) Hummer H2, and Andre owns a (GM) Silverado. Does nobody actually watch their videos and notice this stuff?

    • @MultiPurposeReviewer
      @MultiPurposeReviewer 6 років тому +1

      I would pick the (new) Expedition over the Tahoe any day, and if one was made, I'd probably pick a Ram SUV over both of them (the Durango doesn't quite cut it in my book). My gripe is with people claiming that TFL has a blatant bias against GM when that's clearly untrue.

    • @windrider65
      @windrider65 6 років тому +3

      @ MuiltiPurposeReviewer, I don't know if its true or not for the bias, but as far as the truck and van segment, I believe the big 3 all make good trucks and HD vans. People need to quit being fanboys and buy what you want, and what fits your needs and you can afford. Last year I bought a new Chevy Express van HD 2500, just a plain jane cargo van. I don't need it for work, I bought it to tow my camper with, and travel with our 3 big dogs. It fits my needs. I know that the Ford van can tow more then my van with the 3.5 twin turbo ecoboost, but it gets worse mpg towing. I wanted a V8, because of the fact that I feel that the 3.5 is just working too hard, the RPM's then the V8 while towing. If Ford still made the Econoline van with the 5 liter in it, that's what I would be driving today. Also in my eyes, the new Ford and Dodge vans are ugly. I'm 53, and grew up driving vans and I just can't get the new style vans to grow on me, but as I said buy what you want and be as happy as you can with it. If people want to put you down or tell you your stupid for buying it, just remember, its your money, and your the one that is using it not them. Stay safe and try to have a good day. Take care everybody.

    • @MultiPurposeReviewer
      @MultiPurposeReviewer 6 років тому +3

      Well said.

    • @Steve-yr5vi
      @Steve-yr5vi 6 років тому +3

      "Won" is subjective., they also report the Expedition handles the load much easier than the GM does, so it depends on the perspective. The power of the 3.5 EB is impressive, no one that drives one fails to remark about it.

    • @MultiPurposeReviewer
      @MultiPurposeReviewer 6 років тому +2

      Also true. Good point.

  • @sonictech1000
    @sonictech1000 6 років тому

    O/T Today I saw what looked like a Toyota with Michigan plates and it's badgs covered with black tape. It was otherwise undisguised. Any idea if this was some sort of test mule?

  • @mobgma
    @mobgma 6 років тому +12

    Impressed by GM. This was the XL model which is bigger and heavier. This Yukon also did not have the Tow Package either. Impressive. But most guys towing do no insanely care about the MPG when towing. They know it is going to be bad regardless. For the 10-12 times I tow in the summer, I could care less about 1 or 2 MPG between all manufacturers of the trucks.

    • @ElectricBlueIX
      @ElectricBlueIX 5 років тому

      mobgma I would disagree. If you tow a lot, you would want to maximize your MPG’s. Driving 1,000+ miles that 1-2 mpg does make a difference.

    • @drewpostma1703
      @drewpostma1703 5 років тому +1

      The fact that it didn’t have a tow package helped it lol.

    • @linh811
      @linh811 5 років тому

      Tow package = less mpg

  • @lray801
    @lray801 6 років тому

    Does the Yukon tow in all wheel drive? Because the Expedition does, unless you disable it.

  • @chrisprodromides8142
    @chrisprodromides8142 2 роки тому

    Why I watch your videos- I trust your tests.

  • @jerrykrobby
    @jerrykrobby 6 років тому

    Which one did better towing?

  • @ElimitechPest
    @ElimitechPest 5 років тому +1

    I have the same engine in my F-150 and when I go 55 miles per hour my towing MPG goes up to almost 12mpg pulling a 8000lb TT

  • @kennethtruck
    @kennethtruck 5 років тому

    What would you say is a better 7 SEATER SUV vehicles to pull a 9000 LBS food trailer

  • @SurelyYewJest
    @SurelyYewJest 5 років тому +2

    I wonder if this MPG performance is part of Ford's recent decision to go back to OHV V8 design for their next Super Duty gas offering. Clearly GM keeps getting that "old" tech to work well in spite of the layout's paper-based shortcomings versus OHC. GM has also been more willing to try a larger range of rear end ratios to help with mileage. Ford and Ram seem to be less willing to do so, relying on lower ratios as their offerings get heavier.

  • @crunchyblack2224
    @crunchyblack2224 6 років тому +51

    That’s the Yukon xl not the Yukon. Still a beast and love that V8 👍🏼🇺🇸🍻

    • @opalbeifong695
      @opalbeifong695 6 років тому +2

      Still a beast with the looks too. The New Expeditions are ugly af, I saw one in person the other day and it was hideous. It was all fat and bubbly looking.

    • @thelongdefeat8674
      @thelongdefeat8674 5 років тому

      @@opalbeifong695 looks are subjective. For example, I HATE the headlights on the tahoe/suburban but don't mind the Yukon/XL headlights. The expedition looks more mature and elegant. They drive much nicer than the GM product though..

    • @coolsquad7428
      @coolsquad7428 5 років тому

      You guys can stick with a chevy that will explode and have a lot of engine issues like transmission problems and head gasgets problem and thats why ford is the king because they have the best bang for your buck they actually last and they don’t break down that much lime gm vheicles do they break down all the time i see it every year on the high way ohh a gm vheicle had broke down.

    • @user-Timothy1
      @user-Timothy1 5 років тому

      @@coolsquad7428 you are right according to Scotty Kilmer he has found more issues in GMs Trucks than Ford Trucks especially the Chevy Silverado with transmission and engine issues less than 70000 miles

  • @thomaspaul2465
    @thomaspaul2465 6 років тому +4

    Windy days pressure drops could be around 1.5 psi. I think the EB motor runs at atmosphere of 14.7psi plus 6 psi boost so you would lose about 1.5/20.7=7.25% hp or 30hp from 400hp. This plays a huge role as well along with elevation losses. Tow haul mode even at 70 will hold lower gears and higher rpm with a 10 speed so absolutely you burn more fuel in tow haul mode but you have better engine response due to higher rpm which burns more fuel
    I am left wondering if both trucks had premium fuel in the tank to start out with?

    • @npsit1
      @npsit1 6 років тому

      Just because it was a windy day doesn't mean the barometric pressure had dropped.. You're just pulling this crap out of your butt.

    • @thomaspaul2465
      @thomaspaul2465 6 років тому +1

      npsit1 Yes its a fact as we know it. Refer to Bernouli’s equation. More velocity means less pressure. Humans current understanding of math would make that a fact. Windy day means less barometric pressure. More wind less pressure less boost in the engine.

    • @braedenpinkerton3218
      @braedenpinkerton3218 5 років тому

      I honestly don't know why your comment string hasn't got more than 2 likes. Thanks for the rational!!

  • @Steve-yr5vi
    @Steve-yr5vi 6 років тому +1

    The longer body for the Yukon XL is able to create a better wind tunnel for the trailer; also I'd like to see data from an accelerometer for these tests, I'll bet the Ford is accelerating quicker than the GM because it can; however moving quicker means burning more fuel.

  • @MultiPurposeReviewer
    @MultiPurposeReviewer 6 років тому +1

    Interesting how nobody mentioned that cladded mystery vehicle at 4:00. Any guesses?

    • @alejandroisais634
      @alejandroisais634 6 років тому

      That would be an all new Jeep Cherokee on testing right now

    • @MultiPurposeReviewer
      @MultiPurposeReviewer 6 років тому

      It does look like one. But given that the new one was already revealed, I don't know what they think they'd be hiding.

    • @alejandroisais634
      @alejandroisais634 6 років тому

      No idea but probably some special trim or something? Just don't know

  • @GeoTrashPanda
    @GeoTrashPanda 6 років тому

    .....also with the higher gearing the multiple displacement could kick in easier with the GM ecotec3.

  • @fortunatedad7695
    @fortunatedad7695 2 роки тому

    Not surprised that the smaller engine had to work harder thus using more fuel, but the amount isnt enough to deter me from getting the EcoBoost as I've driven one and wow do they haul ass when you want them too.

  • @carlbroughton1199
    @carlbroughton1199 5 років тому +2

    I was SHOCKED at the figures for BOTH VEHICLES! I drive a 2006 VOLVO big rig. I average 6.54 mpg loaded overall.

    • @cdawg3506
      @cdawg3506 5 років тому

      Woah, how big is your tank man?

    • @kyle8380
      @kyle8380 9 місяців тому

      ​@@cdawg3506most have 100-150 gallons

  • @dzfarms8110
    @dzfarms8110 6 років тому +1

    you guys really need to get the cat scale app

  • @1Pueblito
    @1Pueblito 6 років тому

    Was this in Oklahoma?

  • @thomasrossi31
    @thomasrossi31 6 років тому +1

    Hey Guys, is a “V” nose trailer substantially better for MPG’s?

    • @Loganlanfear21
      @Loganlanfear21 6 років тому

      Thomas Rossi its all in aerodynamics but it also depends what you’re towing it behind. It does better than a standard square nose.

  • @engineeringVirtue
    @engineeringVirtue 6 років тому +2

    One buys the expedition for its flexibility, ability to do everything with enough space and power and great luxuries...it's the last vehicle I'd care about towing MPG with.....I love the new expedition redesign, but I'll wait a few more years until they have at least a plugin hybrid capability so that the first 20-50 miles each day will get somewhat decent economics.

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 6 років тому

      So you're going to pay $20K MORE for one in order to save $5 a day on gas? Then it will only take 11 years to pay for that, except it probably never will because of the increased complexity leading to repair costs and the interest the money could have been drawing if invested instead.
      Makes no sense. The power is about towing and short hybrid range in a towing vehicle is just wasted money.

  • @zachl5504
    @zachl5504 6 років тому +36

    The long version Yukon Denali still beat the more expensive short version Expedition. I love GM's 6.2L V8, especially after the AFM is disabled! Much better durability, towing performance, and sound that Ford's 3.5L TT V6.

    • @ghostking0019
      @ghostking0019 6 років тому +4

      Zach L I feel like Ford is shooting themselves in the foot with the V6 crap lol especially because it's supposed to be more fuel efficient but still gets the same mpg as a V8 lol it's actually kinda sad

    • @zachl5504
      @zachl5504 6 років тому +2

      I agree John. The only reasons I can see why they haven't offered their 5.0L V8 in the Expedition or Navigator have to be b/c they've invested so much money in Ecoboost engines and b/c they have to be making more repair money from Ecoboost engines than their 5.0L.

    • @Steve-yr5vi
      @Steve-yr5vi 6 років тому +1

      What do you mean by beat? towing performance? change this test and send these two up a significant grade and the Expedition will easily out pace the 6.2L. The longer version of the Yukon is more aerodynamically efficient than a shorter Expedition, the longer body has more area to create smoother airflow.

    • @zachl5504
      @zachl5504 6 років тому +1

      At higher elevations yes turbos do better. But have you not seen F-150's with Ecoboost engines towing in hot climates where the turbos overheat so they become unavailable, which leaves a 3.5L V6 towing heavy loads=way underpowered at that setting. Bottom line, Ecoboost engines do not get any better fuel economy than V8's, they have very close torque and hp numbers, and they don't last as long. So it begs the question, why go with an Ecoboost engine? I do love the interiors of the new Expedition's and Navigators but I can't stand the backs of them nor their lack of engine options.

    • @jerrykrobby
      @jerrykrobby 6 років тому +1

      I don't know a lot about the 6.2 but I have a 2017 3.5 Ecoboost it does very well towing. Fuel mileage towing is not good but when I'm not towing I get 23 mpg highway in a 4x4 crew cab.

  • @mgp-bct7723
    @mgp-bct7723 6 років тому

    Loves crape fuel, you guys should test the shell or chevron fuels

  • @svpracer98
    @svpracer98 6 років тому +17

    Kind of surprised the v6 turbo didn't get better mileage... Good job GM!

    • @AkioWasRight
      @AkioWasRight 6 років тому +4

      I kinda wasn't.

    • @WhoThisGuy515
      @WhoThisGuy515 6 років тому +2

      Why were you surprised? Knowing how turbos work it would tell you that while hauling that much weight it would use more fuel. The smaller engine needs quite a bit of boost which means quite a bit more fuel. Eco turbo cars are only "eco" at low load low rpm situations.

    • @andyharman3022
      @andyharman3022 6 років тому +2

      I kinda wasn't either. Once the turbos start boosting, the fuel mixture has to be richened, then the fuel economy suffers. And the 3 extra cams, 8 more valves, and 6 feet of cam chains add to the friction of the Ecoboost, which hurts fuel economy as well.

    • @leesantos9711
      @leesantos9711 5 років тому

      😎👍👍👍👍👍👍

    • @peterkay2406
      @peterkay2406 5 років тому

      The expedition is a hot rod truck, not a towing truck, sure it can tow but it's made to haul (as in speed)

  • @Eeaotc02
    @Eeaotc02 6 років тому

    Now you see why I HATE windy weather. Provides nothing. Great video though!

  • @juliocervantes4994
    @juliocervantes4994 6 років тому +16

    Tow package vs no tow package
    XL Yukon vs short expedition 🤔

  • @chevyon37s
    @chevyon37s 6 років тому +6

    I wish the Yukon would have had a tow package.... ALWAYS get the lowest gearing available weather the vehicle comes with a tow package or not! Companies are putting these tall gears in all their vehicles and it kills city and towing fuel mileage as well as makes a vehicle unenjoyable to drive if you ask me.

    • @karlschauff7989
      @karlschauff7989 5 років тому

      The 10-speed's gearing is aggressive enough that the 3.23's are not a problem. The 10-speed with 3.23's has final drive in 1st gear that's more aggressive than the 6-speed with 3.73's.

  • @MB-ke8wy
    @MB-ke8wy 9 місяців тому

    For a real comparison since you had the Yukon XL you should have used the Expedition Max to compare a closer weight for each vehicle. But still nice job.

  • @Jassman3536
    @Jassman3536 6 років тому +1

    Good Video TFL. I know their will always be biased people as to what they like or find advantages in the brand they prefer to their view point. I also realize it is tough to get 2 exactly equipped size vehicles so I feel this is a relatively fair test. Too bad Ford doesn't give us an option for the 395hp/400tq 5.0 in the Expedition. I also feel a lower gear ration on the Ford would have yielded better numbers and still outperformed the naturally aspirated GMC. Keep up the good work Guys!!!

  • @bobthomas2812
    @bobthomas2812 6 років тому

    Good ole V8, I have heard their are carbon build up problems with the eco boost engines? Can you address that, thanks.

    • @two-face1041
      @two-face1041 6 років тому

      Bob Thomas that doesn’t happen

    • @AkioWasRight
      @AkioWasRight 6 років тому +1

      Bob Thomas Supposedly the new generation 3.5L Ecoboost, the port and direct engine, fixes that problem. Still, these new turbo engines have so much blow-by.

  • @alejandini3133
    @alejandini3133 5 років тому +23

    Okay Ford, no point in having ecoboost there. Time to upgrade to the 5.0L Coyote V8.

  • @brandonm6117
    @brandonm6117 6 років тому

    That wind was insane, my cargo van almost flipped

  • @mr.bluegrass9723
    @mr.bluegrass9723 6 років тому +4

    Really enjoy your very honest test drives ..thank you for your unbiased tests.

    • @chevyon37s
      @chevyon37s 6 років тому

      Mr. Bluegrass they're not unbiased. But they do tend to be reasonably fair. When they do the towing tests with new trucks they have a "subjective" section that usually picks a winner by a fair margin and a few of the guys always seem to give the same brand of truck better subjective scores or nit pick and drop huge points for others.... Nathan is the worst offender about this IMO.

  • @Coolman2527
    @Coolman2527 5 років тому +2

    GMC got active fuel management which give them a huge advantage (and yet Ford came pretty close), especially on the highway with cruise control, but other than that with it's 16.4km/100 (city) it's a nightmare, but Expedition on the other hand is a lot more fuel efficient (overall), i currently drive a 2015 Expedition Max for daily (in town) with a full fuel tank it could last me 3 weeks, I bought it in 2015 when it was new, so there's a lot of people saying v6 ecoboost are crap but in the past 4 years of owning this thing I have no issue with engine, transmission what so ever, i dont get why people has been spreading this bs so much, it's super reliable which is why I m trading in for a 2019 model soon. Plus not to mentation this Expedition had a tow package which means it could tow up to 9,200 lbs and for Yukon it could only tow up to 8,100 lbs, so really if you're gonna be towing, do you really wanna risk you towing capacity for 1mpg?

  • @theglowcloud2215
    @theglowcloud2215 Рік тому +1

    Damn, Andre looks super young here and it was barely 5 years ago.

  • @gabbe52501
    @gabbe52501 6 років тому +1

    Would have been nice to see the expedition EL perform the Yukon Xl

    • @Steve-yr5vi
      @Steve-yr5vi 6 років тому

      true, at speeds above 55 aerodynamics play a significant part in fuel efficiency. Correct me if I'm wrong, the longer the vehicle the more laminar the airflow. The longer Yukon is able to create a slightly better "wind tunnel" than the shorter Expedition.

  • @user-xt1mr6wk8m
    @user-xt1mr6wk8m 5 років тому

    You need to take the fact in that the Yukon XL has a 31 gallon fuel tank, when the short wheelbase expedition has a 23.3 gallon fuel tank and then the expedition will be a lot more friendly than the Yukon.

  • @johns6816
    @johns6816 Рік тому

    I think the Yukon XL, being a foot longer may well have improved the aerodynamics of the whole rig. In water, a longer boat hull is faster, air is not too different. The 400# weight savings and the lack of a co-pilot seems trivial since there were no hills and minimal changes of speed.

  • @Sir.VicsMasher
    @Sir.VicsMasher 6 років тому

    Short wheelbase vs long wheelbase. Should of used a LWB version of the Ford/ Lincoln line to go against a LWB Denali XL in a towing test.

  • @brabus3295
    @brabus3295 6 років тому +51

    That was the extended gmc yukon version and it still won.

    • @Name-kd5jj
      @Name-kd5jj 6 років тому +16

      Big V8s FTW. The EcoBOOM engines only win in city mpg. But GM's new V8s will have the dynamic skip-fire technology which should close the gap.

    • @dustinharvey7394
      @dustinharvey7394 6 років тому +9

      Rex Regum honestly the only time the ecoboost engine gets better milage is if you drive like a grandma (hyper mile it) or if its getting epa milage tested. Turbo engines are great at fooling the epa test.

    • @0utrider
      @0utrider 6 років тому +6

      GM has been winning for years and years.

    • @0utrider
      @0utrider 6 років тому +3

      Also there is no substitute for CUBIC INCH!

    • @alexsmba
      @alexsmba 6 років тому +8

      TR Outrider really? So the most powerful Chevy engine is the 340hp 8.1 V8?

  • @stevehostetler6230
    @stevehostetler6230 6 років тому

    Love u guys don't worry about the ppl that don't know beans from bacon

  • @chevyon37s
    @chevyon37s 6 років тому +29

    Had anybody else started doing the 30 second method when fueling up their own vehicles??

    • @zachl5504
      @zachl5504 6 років тому +3

      No. I've heard of negatives of filling past the 1st click.

    • @cruzmascorro3943
      @cruzmascorro3943 6 років тому +8

      The first click i wait and fill it up to the dollar 23.00 not 22.59 .

    • @TheDaltonmichaels
      @TheDaltonmichaels 6 років тому +4

      i cant imagine a real negative of doing it. I think the whole topping off thing came about when you used to be able to literally fill your tank until you saw fuel in the filler neck and or overflowing the filler neck. In which case on those early models the extra fuel would just end up in a charcoal canister or a vent hose and leak out. If it was completely sealed off and you did this filling to the very very top you could over pressurise the tank when the fuel heats up, more likely to happen in hot weather where the differential in temperature between 20 ft under ground and black top surface temps are massive that could probably cause a number of problems. When im on road trips i normally fill to the very very top full well knowing the vehicle will consume the fuel at a rate higher than the thermal expansion ever could. also its a newer vehicle with a non vented tank. I think the new non vented tanks can only intake air they cannot expel vapors like the old cars.

    • @PatrickRich
      @PatrickRich 6 років тому +3

      You really shouldn't. You can flood the evap line and ruin your evaporative canister. Its just not worth the .5 gallons. I see why they do it here, but I wouldn't make a habit of it.

    • @billyhw5492
      @billyhw5492 6 років тому +4

      You could ruin your evap system, don't do it regularly.

  • @smithjones1906
    @smithjones1906 6 років тому +1

    Andre it looks like you got in a fight with some chicken wire! 2:10

  • @AndyGarcia-ch1ci
    @AndyGarcia-ch1ci 5 років тому

    Biggest advantage is simply because the v8 is bigger and torquier. That’s also how GM can get away with a 3:23 final drive while the ford needs a lower ratio to help out the smaller engine output.
    Also good to note is that the Yukon was an XL which is the size of a suburban, and the expedition is the size of a Tahoe. The bigger and more stabile truck will pull more efficiently regardless of the little extra weight.
    Ultimately the biggest difference maker is just the fact that a v6 even with TT’s just isn’t the same as a bigger and torquier engine. But in the real world you wouldn’t notice a major difference and both vehicles are a good choice. If you can spend $80k...

  • @jimskenadore1791
    @jimskenadore1791 2 роки тому

    If your going to compare. Should have tried the 5.4 L King ranch expedition not the XLT with the larger Denali. Or the shorter GMC.

  • @TheDaltonmichaels
    @TheDaltonmichaels 6 років тому +2

    Everyone hear complaining about the this air not helping the gm V8. It goes both ways you know. Yes thin air means less power. Thins air also means less fuel consumption. And when your only towing 7k you don't need 100% of the power anyway. sure you'd like to have it but its helping MPG so it's not a total loss.

    • @Steve-yr5vi
      @Steve-yr5vi 6 років тому

      True; power made is directly proportional to the amount of air and fuel consumed, the monitoring systems on the engine only inject the amount of fuel needed to burn the amount of oxygen present. At a mile high the NA engine is not making full power because less is needed to burn less oxygen present.

    • @stinkycheese804
      @stinkycheese804 6 років тому

      It gets even better. At higher altitude with thinner air, you don't need as high an octane and can drop down to regular fuel so that cost goes down.

  • @Treyk901
    @Treyk901 6 років тому

    $2.59 per gallon? Dang! It’s $3.05 in Memphis right now.

  • @infidel24
    @infidel24 6 років тому

    Hard to actually laugh about it, but it's somewhat funny that 91 octane is $2.95 per gallon there and here in Pittsburgh PA that's the cost of reg near me.
    Crazy gas taxes...Lol

  • @jaytrock3217
    @jaytrock3217 6 років тому

    Figure that the numbers would be like that even though you say the wind. My friend has Expedition and he tows a boat. He is really disappointed in the MPG he is getting with it even when not towing.

  • @mr.aviation6501
    @mr.aviation6501 6 років тому

    you guys should take the Expidition up gold mine hill please

  • @DS-TRUCKS
    @DS-TRUCKS 6 років тому +1

    Come on Ford!!!

  • @luciousquinctiuscincinnatu8131
    @luciousquinctiuscincinnatu8131 5 років тому

    Problem with the new ECOBOOST engines is that they’re not fuel efficient unless you’re crawling along.

  • @DelTalkoh
    @DelTalkoh 6 років тому +3

    Andre and Nathan don't really seem like they mesh that well Nathan just seemed bored and annoyed. It seems like Andre genuinely loves to make these videos, he likes to collect the data and make the analyses and come to a conclusion Nathan and Mr. Truck just seem like they are being tortured when they do these videos.

  • @edysinsimon8646
    @edysinsimon8646 6 років тому

    You work far too hard for what Romain pays you Andre! Good work, all's I got for you is a, "atta boy"!

  • @mojorisin7317
    @mojorisin7317 5 років тому

    I don't understand why Ford just offers one motor in the Expedition. I'd like to see more engine options like the trucks offer. A 5.0 in the Expedition with 3.55 rear end would be sweet. I guess you have to settle for the F150 for that...

  • @criscassol6921
    @criscassol6921 10 місяців тому

    Tengo un ford expedition 2002 con 250000 millas original y camina como nueva y es 5.4 a mi importa la milla me importa como me responde cuando la necesito acelerar

  • @alejandroisais634
    @alejandroisais634 6 років тому

    Maybe the brands should put a seal on the fuel door of the trucks and SUVs so the dirt stays out and away from the filler.

  • @davidwelsh829
    @davidwelsh829 6 років тому +1

    The Fords without gas caps are not supposed to be "topped off". They have a complex venting system that can be damaged by overfueling. I am not saying the mpg would be any different, just follow Ford directions pls.

    • @djaftermath4313
      @djaftermath4313 5 років тому

      I've been wondering about their double click method for awhile now??

  • @sargenthp
    @sargenthp 6 років тому

    As a note: Towing with higher rear gear ratios will usually give better MPG's. My '15 Ram 2500 with 3.42 gears would get about 9 MPG towing my camper. My '07.5 Ram 2500 with 3.73 gears would get about 11 MPG towing my camper.

    • @anthonywebber2211
      @anthonywebber2211 6 років тому

      3.42 gets better mileage the 3.73

    • @sargenthp
      @sargenthp 6 років тому

      Anthony Webber... Sure... Empty. Fighting headwinds, hills, and towing. Nope.

  • @franciscoarciganolasco6027
    @franciscoarciganolasco6027 6 років тому

    It’s a trap, why not you check it with the expedition l or max?

  • @BBXTRAD
    @BBXTRAD 5 років тому

    The wheel base on the GM is a foot longer. Use the EXP EL and that would make it fair.

  • @TypicalGuy84
    @TypicalGuy84 5 років тому

    Why didnt they give all the GMC specs in the beginning like they did with the Ford?

  • @vadimnesen8060
    @vadimnesen8060 6 років тому +6

    Yea the GM has to be a longer version to seat the third row as comfortable as the regular short expedition

    • @karlschauff7989
      @karlschauff7989 5 років тому +2

      Apparently nobody cares because GM sells 3 Suburban/Yukons for every one Expedition. Ford blatantly ripped off the Tahoe/Yukon body styling and still can't win.

    • @technom3598
      @technom3598 4 роки тому +1

      @@karlschauff7989 are you blind?

    • @karlschauff7989
      @karlschauff7989 4 роки тому +2

      @@technom3598 No but apparently you are.
      Ford's 2017 Expedition:
      uploads.disquscdn.com/images/78b38f12eae337dd9e943c43ace2795cf2246f24f4e877c7c7648abe57d5d7e0.jpg
      Ford must have like what GM was doing with the 2015+ Yukon's styling:
      uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5e19398459f3bed94356e74860f9435cab5fe0b6cef5bb072aaabaef3abdd922.jpg
      Because when Ford came out with the all-new 2018 Navigator, it was a total knockoff of the 2015-2020 GM full-sizers:
      uploads.disquscdn.com/images/07f0a5171ceef5019820d405888980fb126df14f0451d53d0a48d7a58a4b85d9.jpg
      Everything from the front quarter panels back is a knockoff of GM's fullsizers.

  • @dylantraub5952
    @dylantraub5952 6 років тому +1

    Did anyone see that jeep looking thing at 4:00

  • @waylinvanhalen
    @waylinvanhalen 6 років тому +2

    I still have my 09 fx4 with 5.4 v8 ...pull trailer all the time. ..mileage is anywhere from 7-12 ... conclusion is Gas motors suck fuel when pulling. Ecoboosts haven't made anything more Eco. More turbo power is all. We just got a powerstroke for 52k. Its been averaging 14mpg And these stupid SUVs are 81k lol. Really is highway robbery. But mileage on all new vehicles isn't much better than it was 20 yrs ago ..gotta keep the oil companies going right? Should I keep rambling? Baa

  • @Naginc
    @Naginc 6 років тому

    Ah ha...@ 4:01 ...what's the mystery vehicle?

  • @Th0garr
    @Th0garr 5 років тому

    I wish premium was 2.95 in illinois where I am, add a dollar to that

  • @cinder9950
    @cinder9950 6 років тому

    If fiat made a full size SUV Nathan would wait until there was 90 mph tail wind downhill both ways to do a fair comparison against a chevy.

  • @togodbetheglory9725
    @togodbetheglory9725 6 років тому

    A v8 always is gonna be better.i love de sound of it .but the price of these suvs are crazy

  • @jacques2007smith
    @jacques2007smith 6 років тому

    We just all gonna ignore the future car at 4:02?

  • @two-face1041
    @two-face1041 6 років тому +1

    Ford slays

  • @chrisslots8375
    @chrisslots8375 6 років тому

    Tone down the music so I can hear what you are saying

  • @nrathod9306
    @nrathod9306 4 роки тому

    As they say no replacement for displacement.....

  • @iangarcia7424
    @iangarcia7424 6 років тому

    Captain strategic smart elghmf chemical assembly four minimum none turn.

  • @carguy638
    @carguy638 6 років тому

    Eco or boost

    • @ericgrau123
      @ericgrau123 6 років тому

      carguy638 That was my experience when I had an ecoboost escape. Exceptional fuel economy with a really light foot. and awesome power with a heavy foot.

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave 6 років тому

    My house was 89.9 in late 1986

    • @SurelyYewJest
      @SurelyYewJest 5 років тому

      Ya but (depending on where you live) that $89,900 in 2019 dollars is probably more like $200-210k.

  • @fabiandeloa6061
    @fabiandeloa6061 6 років тому +1

    The new expedition can tow up to 9000lb 😌

  • @Aldo-zp8wk
    @Aldo-zp8wk 4 роки тому

    70 mph in the wind with a trailer are you nuts?

  • @omnipresentvideo7686
    @omnipresentvideo7686 4 роки тому

    Yukon owners can use their fuel saving to replace their $2000 front shocks every 40k miles. Then their timing cover and oil pans. Then rear shocks. Then rear diff. My shop loves those things. Not a single person at my dealership will buy a GM truck newer than 2014. They are crap. Even the owner has a Navigator that has been trouble free for 70k miles. Its a 2018.

  • @michaelwolf5609
    @michaelwolf5609 6 років тому +1

    80,000 wtf why

  • @denisthegunner4066
    @denisthegunner4066 2 роки тому

    The V6 expedition will run on regular just fine

  • @GeoTrashPanda
    @GeoTrashPanda 6 років тому

    Yeah that fair comparison side the Yukon xl is much bigger class. The regular Yukon or Tahoe would be a fair comparison since it'll be much closer in size. This is why I think you guys are kinda hacks.

  • @smlko9751
    @smlko9751 3 роки тому

    THAT GMC STANDS FOR GENAREL MOTORS AND THAT HAS 420 HORSEPOWER 6.2L 10 SPEED ATOMATACK AND BIG V8 ENGINE LIKE A CORVETTE

  • @kevpachakey
    @kevpachakey 3 роки тому

    i know 76 very well. looks like he's out by fort morgan

  • @TheTyler456123
    @TheTyler456123 5 років тому +1

    81000 far a Ford?

    • @cdawg3506
      @cdawg3506 5 років тому

      Yeah, the new expedition is basically just fords version of a Yukon Denali, so yeah 81k isn't abnormal at all

  • @toptobottom247
    @toptobottom247 6 років тому

    I know for a fact that a Ford or Mercedes Sprinter series vans can do better than that. I'm just not sure about 7, 000 lbs on the Ford van.

  • @gamevoid3684
    @gamevoid3684 6 років тому +2

    4:01 show off car

  • @dam4274
    @dam4274 6 років тому

    Most RVers know that the faster you drive, the worst mileage you get. So slow down guys and drive 65! Your mileage is also bad because of the square front trailer. If you had a V-front trailer your mileage would also improve aerodynamically.