Everyone is different. But from my 25 years of gardening and landscape work, neem oil puts a coating on the leaves that chokes out the pores of the plant. Some plants are more effected by this than others. Through research, I've found that neem oil is just as, if not more effective if used as a systemic(soil drench). I've only tried it this year so far, but every tree and plant I've tried it on so far has no problems with insects. I haven't seen any tests on this compared to spraying, or just compared to a control. It would be a great video though.
Thats interesting. I wonder though would the fruit absorb the smell and taste of the Neem oil. It must go into the plant itself so the bugs don't like to eat it. Also, if you use neem try washing of the oil with water a week later to open up the pores. I think it should wash off.
I believe Robert Pavlis of Garden Myths fame posted a video re neem oil that included a segment about using it as a drench. If I recall correctly, his conclusion was that it wasn't practical.
Thank you for this, I have a tree that is just as bad (if not worse) and was ready to "have at it" with the pruning shears. Will give this a try first!
Thank for your sharing. I planted vegetable in my workplace. They were infested with leaf minoe. I want if it is safe after i use the neem oil if my vegetable grow mature and i take the plant？
You are right it does say to mix with a soap but I didn't have any. Fortunately it still worked just fine without it. The oil still sticks to the leaves but might take more applications
A bit disappointed to see the solution was Neem oil spray, as that is what I have been using for several weeks on a lemon tree with leaf borers, and I have not really seen any effect.
Also most Neem sold is actually "hydrophobic extract of neem oil" and will say so on the label instead of "neem oil". Hydrophobic extract is what's left over after they extract the actual insecticide (azadiractin) so it's just oil and usually does next to nothing to help anything. In this video it looks like he's using the Dynagro brand which should still has the azadiractin in it as its ingredient is simply "neem oil:. Makes a difference. If just using oil, horticultural oil (mineral oil) is more effective and more gentle to leaf surfaces. Keep reapplying every 7-10 days and also if lots of new leaves are emerging after fertilizing.
I’m new to the citrus world so hope this isn’t a crazy question. My gard apparently beinf attacked by Indian meal moths. (Ready to torch the whole garden lol) IDW those to get the lime tree I just bought, so I’m trying to figure out a way I can stake and cover it. I think I’ve figured that out. BUT, then heard you say direct contact with ground and I had planned to set it on my porch bc of all this. If I set it on the ground, only place really is garden. Wouldn’t I be risking other pests from garden getting to it thru the bottom drainage holes? I am all ears, staking-covering-ground/porch, etc. ANYTHING that will help protect them! 😮😊
But the newly growing back new leaves will be infected by the leaf miners again, and again even with the neem oil treetment. This is happening to my trees.
Thanks Yvonna, yes I hate to lose a tree but was so excited to see the fresh new growth. I did neem oil two more times this spring just to make sure on all my citrus.
Its good to treat a few times to be sure you get the new growth too. So far so good I eliminated them and it has been about a year. Always to a touch up until gone
I don’t like my pots connected to the ground ,especially where there is leafy material compost rotted things on the ground as I have found nearly most of my pots suffer with slatey beetle’s , they nibble on the roots of your plants in the pots and slowly kill them , if you notice you potted plant doesn’t seem to be doing well , empty the pot and look inside , more than likely you will find those Slater beetles , get rid of them and repot with entire new potting mix to make sure there are no slater eggs etc going back into your repot , that’s my experience here in Australia at least.
not me crying because im outside with my 4 foot tall lemon plant and im noticing something is wrong this week and its THESE and im outside and one just raised up at me im crying and trying to remove them im so scared lmaoo all i have is dish soap, salt and vinegar i basically used everything individually but ill have to buy that neem oil stuff
Leaf miners. Spraying at that point of the cycle seems pointless. Their inside the leaves anyway. What would be valuable is finding a way to keep the eggs from being deposited on the leaves in the first place. Prevention. By the time your citrus leaves have that much damage the leaf miners are finished for the season.
Everyone is different. But from my 25 years of gardening and landscape work, neem oil puts a coating on the leaves that chokes out the pores of the plant. Some plants are more effected by this than others. Through research, I've found that neem oil is just as, if not more effective if used as a systemic(soil drench). I've only tried it this year so far, but every tree and plant I've tried it on so far has no problems with insects. I haven't seen any tests on this compared to spraying, or just compared to a control. It would be a great video though.
Thats interesting. I wonder though would the fruit absorb the smell and taste of the Neem oil. It must go into the plant itself so the bugs don't like to eat it. Also, if you use neem try washing of the oil with water a week later to open up the pores. I think it should wash off.
I believe Robert Pavlis of Garden Myths fame posted a video re neem oil that included a segment about using it as a drench. If I recall correctly, his conclusion was that it wasn't practical.
I hesitate to use on leaves as well, but this tree required desperate measures- I have one in a similar state that I'm going to give it a try on.
YEP. Neem oil doesn't work but you see every "organic" garden site recommending this crap.
Right, it has hurt mine in central FL
Why not get rid of the leaves first then spray?
Thats a good point. I actually thought I would save more leaves but later changed my mind.
How often do you spray ? Is this something we do year round or ?
Thank you!
I would spray about 3-4 times per year.
@@GrowingOrganicTvShowevery 3 months?
He said below.. Every month until gone.. During growing season.. I guess it takes it through the rest of the year
Thank you for this, I have a tree that is just as bad (if not worse) and was ready to "have at it" with the pruning shears. Will give this a try first!
It should work. Good luck
Thank you❤
Thank for your sharing. I planted vegetable in my workplace. They were infested with leaf minoe. I want if it is safe after i use the neem oil if my vegetable grow mature and i take the plant？
If you are eating it be sure to clean it well in water. You don't want to eat the neem oil
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Don't forget to mix with soap (neem oil) my friend 👍🤙
You are right it does say to mix with a soap but I didn't have any. Fortunately it still worked just fine without it. The oil still sticks to the leaves but might take more applications
What soap
I just sprayed mine with water and gave more water like morning and afternoon and in less than a month it is already growing new leaves
A bit disappointed to see the solution was Neem oil spray, as that is what I have been using for several weeks on a lemon tree with leaf borers, and I have not really seen any effect.
It will kill the baby leaf miners but not the adults, keep going to break the cycle
@@GrowingOrganicTvShowOh…didn’t know that, and that fits with what I am seeing (not much difference over 2-3 weeks.) Thanks.
Also most Neem sold is actually "hydrophobic extract of neem oil" and will say so on the label instead of "neem oil". Hydrophobic extract is what's left over after they extract the actual insecticide (azadiractin) so it's just oil and usually does next to nothing to help anything. In this video it looks like he's using the Dynagro brand which should still has the azadiractin in it as its ingredient is simply "neem oil:. Makes a difference. If just using oil, horticultural oil (mineral oil) is more effective and more gentle to leaf surfaces. Keep reapplying every 7-10 days and also if lots of new leaves are emerging after fertilizing.
Mix 2tbsp of baking soda,
3 or 4tbsp of liquid soap &
3tbsp neem oil in liter of water shake well and spray on the leaves it will be more effective
You should remove the infected leaf by cutting it after that use neem oil spray
I’m new to the citrus world so hope this isn’t a crazy question. My gard apparently beinf attacked by Indian meal moths. (Ready to torch the whole garden lol) IDW those to get the lime tree I just bought, so I’m trying to figure out a way I can stake and cover it.
I think I’ve figured that out. BUT, then heard you say direct contact with ground and I had planned to set it on my porch bc of all this. If I set it on the ground, only place really is garden. Wouldn’t I be risking other pests from garden getting to it thru the bottom drainage holes?
I am all ears, staking-covering-ground/porch, etc. ANYTHING that will help protect them! 😮😊
wow crazy I have to research that meal moth I am not sure about that one. You must live in a different area I never seen one.
Do you have to continue spraying it
Today about a year later I have no leaf miners on it. So it must have worked. Try spraying 4 times if needed, like once a month until gone
But the newly growing back new leaves will be infected by the leaf miners again, and again even with the neem oil treetment. This is happening to my trees.
The neem will kill its offspring so keep spraying until gone. Mine are all gone now.
Great results!
I was honestly sad for that orange tree initially but I see Neem works wonders.. Nice video
Thanks Yvonna, yes I hate to lose a tree but was so excited to see the fresh new growth. I did neem oil two more times this spring just to make sure on all my citrus.
How often do you treat? , Leaf Miners only attack new growth
Its good to treat a few times to be sure you get the new growth too. So far so good I eliminated them and it has been about a year. Always to a touch up until gone
How much water do we mix it with?
It should say on the instructions but I think I was using one teaspoon in a full spray bottle
I don't have access to neem oil. Any other alternatives?
Try Amazon. I have a link in the description
Is it okay to spray on the leaves when the plants are blooming w flowers and small fruits?
It should be fine
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How do you get rid of citrus canker?
I am not sure about that one.
How to prevent it
Use Bayer solomon spray 1ml for 1l
I don’t like my pots connected to the ground ,especially where there is leafy material compost rotted things on the ground as I have found nearly most of my pots suffer with slatey beetle’s , they nibble on the roots of your plants in the pots and slowly kill them , if you notice you potted plant doesn’t seem to be doing well , empty the pot and look inside , more than likely you will find those Slater beetles , get rid of them and repot with entire new potting mix to make sure there are no slater eggs etc going back into your repot , that’s my experience here in Australia at least.
Interesting, ya here I don't think I get those beetles though
I have a reoccuring problem with leaf minor on baby lemon trees. Neem and drenches are not working. HELP!!!
It should work if you apply every month until gone
Neem oil almost killed my citrus
TY
why spray first and then rip off the leaves?
good question. I didn't think I was going to rip off all the leaves yet but ended up needing to take more off than I thought.
not me crying because im outside with my 4 foot tall lemon plant and im noticing something is wrong this week and its THESE and im outside and one just raised up at me im crying and trying to remove them im so scared lmaoo all i have is dish soap, salt and vinegar i basically used everything individually but ill have to buy that neem oil stuff
Once it is established it can become stronger. Keep it healthy and boost immune system with compost teas. Also use the neem.
Does it also help keep ants off citrus plants
Also blast with water because the ants will come back to bring aphids and scales. Check under leaves for bugs periodically
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Neem oil did not help with my situation.
You may need to do 3 applications over time and it will eventually eliminate them. Don't give up to early
Leaf miners. Spraying at that point of the cycle seems pointless. Their inside the leaves anyway. What would be valuable is finding a way to keep the eggs from being deposited on the leaves in the first place. Prevention. By the time your citrus leaves have that much damage the leaf miners are finished for the season.
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Thank you
you have mites NOT leaf miners o and neem does not work !!
Mites have spider webs and I never got spider webs on them.
Bla bla bla been oil no for that