Old Fangs (2009)

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  • @nerdylisette7096
    @nerdylisette7096 4 роки тому +375

    he takes up the whole house with his anger and brutality, and he's left a sad shell that his son can't relate to.

    • @briannalee1998
      @briannalee1998 3 роки тому +5

      I love it! It was a beautiful visual metaphor

  • @gummybearstudios4163
    @gummybearstudios4163 7 років тому +756

    whoever made the musical scores for this needs to be hired ASAP cus this is some of the best soundscape i've ever heard ever.

    • @jillian6370
      @jillian6370 4 роки тому +2

      have you ever played the nevermore game?

    • @Helaw0lf
      @Helaw0lf 4 роки тому +3

      Atmospherically reminds me of Nurse With Wound.

    • @briannalee1998
      @briannalee1998 3 роки тому

      So good!

  • @ShadowCatGambit
    @ShadowCatGambit 9 років тому +490

    I would watch a series like this. It's got great atmosphere. The body language and music tell the story.

    • @2ndmoon
      @2ndmoon 3 роки тому +2

      exactly! the whole time I was thinking about how much it reminds me of "Over the garden wall"

  • @o0CloudySkies0o
    @o0CloudySkies0o 8 років тому +298

    the very ending scene is so powerful I cant even describe it

  • @bohdanaleshchenko266
    @bohdanaleshchenko266 4 роки тому +101

    This music make me anxious, while the whole atmosphere seems very pleasant

  • @foureyedpossum4613
    @foureyedpossum4613 4 роки тому +192

    7:57 smoke is covering the mum wolf. That's definitely a symbol

    • @StaleChips3
      @StaleChips3 4 роки тому +32

      Yeah, your probably right. Later in this you see that the mom ran away with her son (the main character) while trying to escape the the abusive dad. The dad probably found them and killed the mom in a blind rage while the main character escaped.

    • @foureyedpossum4613
      @foureyedpossum4613 4 роки тому +14

      @@StaleChips3 my idea was his mother left, his father won custody. Leaving his mother only a mere memory

    • @MillyKKitty
      @MillyKKitty 3 роки тому +21

      What I think the overall story is that the father convinced his wife that they should move into a forest, so their son could grow more freely since he is the only one naked in the family portrait. But after the son saw his father murder a deer, he probably told his mother about it and she decided to run away with her son while he never fully grasped why she did it as he would look around himself confused while wearing pants for the first time.
      Now the husband is left alone, his heart filling with loneliness and sadness. We do not know if he had a habit of smoking and drinking beforehand but this surely was his way of filling the emptiness. The wife being covered by smoke could represent him blaming her for running away or for betraying him, while he doesn't blame the son.

    • @lik_m8146
      @lik_m8146 3 роки тому +2

      Shes probably ded

  • @olwenyappa8849
    @olwenyappa8849 9 років тому +467

    This is so intense my heart is pounding, it's oddly terrifying

  • @cramerfloro5936
    @cramerfloro5936 4 роки тому +649

    Am i the only one who feels really bad for the two friends?
    They must be so confused left alone in the woods at night.

  • @matrixiekitty2127
    @matrixiekitty2127 4 роки тому +76

    They did such an excellent job making an unnerving and troubled atmosphere with the visuals and especially with music and audio! Excellent work!

  • @grayson4490
    @grayson4490 3 роки тому +54

    Gosh - I can't get over the sound design and music. I just got this feeling of intrigue and anxiety in my gut once the car door closed, and it just built up until they arrived at the house. Once inside, though, I encountered a completely different beast - just this itching, gnawing fear that I can easily compare to feeling like that sound.
    Having experienced childhood trauma and disjointed relationships with parents myself, I deeply empathize with the main character here. This is what facing trauma is like. How his friends try to comfort him afterwards and he just takes off, I know that - I've done that. I can't really express how closely this hits to home.
    The father crying at the end reminds me a lot of what it was like telling my parents that they had, inadvertently, neglected and hurt me as a child. I can tell they have a lot of remorse and regret, but they just don't know how to express it to me.
    Good lord this got personal, but man. I feel its necessary for me to share, if only for my own sake. Apologies for how ramble-y this is to anyone that takes the time to read

  • @primahart
    @primahart 11 років тому +163

    I felt sorry for both of them in that one instant moment

  • @goofygoober4901
    @goofygoober4901 10 років тому +149

    I love the backgrounds and the animation style.

  • @TaCiannin
    @TaCiannin Рік тому +2

    I spent 10 years looking for this short movie, saw it on a tv channel when i was a kid. So beautiful

  • @sadsharksvehementcomics8265
    @sadsharksvehementcomics8265 2 роки тому +52

    This movie meant so much to me as a teenager. I can't believe I re-found this film I thought I would never ever see it again!
    My father just passed away recently and I can really relate to this film. He was very scary. And now he's gone. And I'm still scared somehow. Isn't that crazy? That's the effect abusive family members can have on someone.
    I remember sharing this with my friends back when I was barely even in high school yet. My parents divorced in 2017 and it was a very ugly divorce, and me and my mom and younger brother all wanted out long before that.

  • @Raverspike
    @Raverspike 3 роки тому +18

    What is this forgotten gem that I just randomly found?
    Cartoon Saloon just doesn’t stop to amaze me!

  • @mackpetty
    @mackpetty Рік тому +2

    i just keep coming back to this video it holds a special place in my heart

  • @Lana-gm3yj
    @Lana-gm3yj 4 роки тому +57

    I don’t recommend listening to this with earbuds. In the dark. At 2:00 a.m.

    • @foxmagick6871
      @foxmagick6871 4 роки тому +4

      What about in the dark without earbuds at 1:30am? 😅

    • @Lana-gm3yj
      @Lana-gm3yj 4 роки тому +3

      Magical Fox Nah. But that depends on how much you enjoy peaceful sleep I guess.

    • @oliveranderson928
      @oliveranderson928 4 роки тому

      Oops.

    • @isabelladaydream1755
      @isabelladaydream1755 4 роки тому

      I did it at about 1 a.m 😂 But I agree. It's scary 🤪

    • @lillyyy222
      @lillyyy222 3 роки тому

      It's 2:00 am and i just saw it 😳

  • @katmcgee8567
    @katmcgee8567 7 років тому +31

    The animation style and use of colour is so dark. But the music, sound and the initial ambiguity of the situation really gets to you. Intense. Love it. Need MOAR

  • @somegem6344
    @somegem6344 3 роки тому +7

    The style gives me night in the woods vibes.

  • @keanimation6264
    @keanimation6264 4 роки тому +15

    The last bit of animation with the dad is so incredibly powerful!

  • @jelly_fish_wishes
    @jelly_fish_wishes 7 років тому +176

    I saw this a long time ago and now it reminds me of Night in the Woods

    • @ellarue3753
      @ellarue3753 7 років тому +6

      I thought the same thing!

    • @arianamarie8442
      @arianamarie8442 5 років тому +12

      Yes, and especially the eyes of the wolves! Other than that, I think both NITW and Other Fang have very unique, minimalistic art styles.

    • @Lucerita-Chan
      @Lucerita-Chan 9 місяців тому +1

      SAMEEEE

  • @gabriellavedier9650
    @gabriellavedier9650 4 роки тому +14

    Oh man, the Night In The Woods prequel is looking awesome.
    For real, though, that was some absolutely amazing atmospheric animation work.

  • @MaxChaplin
    @MaxChaplin 7 років тому +310

    When the father says, "This disgusts you, right? It frightens you, doesn't it?", is he referring to the mess in the house... or to meat?
    The deer hunt scene is unsettling because the wolf and the deer have such similarly shaped heads. Is hunting normal in this world? Could this be the reason the mother left him?

    • @CountDVB
      @CountDVB 5 років тому +87

      The meat looks like a liver or intestine? It's designed to look unappealing, slimey, even. I'm guessing it's more the savage angle of it. Like, the wolf went from what looked like a middle-class job with a suit and tie to leading his family to the woods for a "better life", one more animal. Hence his lack of clothes. Mom wolf doesn't really go for it given that she still wear dresses, albeit like sundresses. Our protagonist having just a cape symbolizes his innocence and being torb ebtween the ideals. Eventually, I guess mom got tired of it (though the bottle noise may indicate drinkign or something) and she grabs their son and leaves. When the son wakes up, he's not a stick figure, but fully fleshed out and wearing shorts, symbolizing he's chosen his path and back to civilization.

    • @OrangeOwl1000
      @OrangeOwl1000 5 років тому +15

      The way he moves his arm as he says 'this' implies he was referring to the house.

    • @MillyKKitty
      @MillyKKitty 3 роки тому +10

      @@CountDVB Maybe that deer scene was the first time the son saw his father kill someone and told the mother, which must've terrified her since she wasn't really in on the whole being wild thing. Maybe the boy subconsciously forgot about it as he was not sure if he was in the right place at the beginning and only after meeting with his father again, did the memories flood back into him. At first he was sad that his father didn't seem happy but then he was terrified of seeing his own friends as prey like the deer and runs away just like his mother did.

  • @celticfury7328
    @celticfury7328 7 років тому +300

    Two individuals, father and son...the son abandons the father's world, for what he considers a "better way"...the father, wracked with grief for all he's lost, sees his loss in the son's face...the son, needing his father but not sure why, reaches out, but finds only the part of his father that he chose to abandon...the father, feeling anguish and sorrow (but is unable to express these to the son) attempts to reach out the only way he knows...the son, knowing nothing of his father, sees this attempt as hostility...both are left with an empty heart, and are missing the opportunity to learn from each other.
    Moral of the story: get to know your dad kids, he might seem gruff and unaproachable, but inside he's a person too, and has much to offer...if you'd just open up to each other!

    • @babydemoniac6723
      @babydemoniac6723 6 років тому +6

      Thank you for putting that at the end of your comment :)

    • @claudiacaprin4904
      @claudiacaprin4904 6 років тому +1

      😭💛🙏

    • @CountDVB
      @CountDVB 5 років тому +24

      Uhh the son was a boy when it happened. His mother took him away because she was concerned clearly.

    • @loszhor
      @loszhor 4 роки тому +1

      Thanks, this makes more sense now!

    • @lunawolfheart336
      @lunawolfheart336 4 роки тому +9

      @@CountDVB yeah. What I got from it is maby the father's a bit abusive from anger issues or something

  • @Blitzkrieg_Wolf
    @Blitzkrieg_Wolf 10 років тому +54

    Beautiful, amazingly well done art style and animation along with the cinematography and story.
    This is a true gem, a diamond in the rough for me.

  • @achangeinthename
    @achangeinthename 4 роки тому +10

    I remember seeing this was years and years ago when i was really young, I had no idea it was by the same company as a lot of my fav movies!

  • @Liuhuayue
    @Liuhuayue 9 років тому +56

    Their slim designs remind me of Courage the Cowardly Dog's Katz. It looks really good; I'll have to finish watching some other time.

  • @StaticWhiteRabbit
    @StaticWhiteRabbit 10 років тому +96

    This is absolutely beautiful in so many ways. It brings forth the emotion through the artwork, the music, the colours, the story and the very atmosphere itself. It really makes you think. I enjoyed every single moment of watching this. :)

  • @BradyPostma
    @BradyPostma 4 роки тому +8

    Pierced right into me. Cartoon Saloon remains brilliant beyond description.

  • @amylikesspiders8406
    @amylikesspiders8406 4 роки тому +3

    The character design, storytelling backgrounds, music are all fantastic.

  • @konstantinandrianov7287
    @konstantinandrianov7287 3 роки тому +4

    Как же знакома такая жизнь. Как же знаком мне образ этого отца и отечества. Мне жаль эту семейную любовь, это тяжёлые чувства, где никто из не сможет убежать от них, да и навряд-ли получиться сделать это, и остаться самим собой.

  • @TahtahmesDiary
    @TahtahmesDiary 4 роки тому +6

    Love everything about this, wish I could binge it on Netflix!

  • @Nitanima
    @Nitanima 9 років тому +2

    This is an excellent example of how much you can say with little or no dialogue at all... sheesh... this was amazing, intense, yet, beautiful, great work!

  • @sicger
    @sicger Рік тому +1

    why cant i dig this gold sooner damn
    gives me feelings and inspiration and the will to keep working on my project

  • @ckiecat.m.4013
    @ckiecat.m.4013 3 роки тому +9

    Oof...man Idk if any of y'all had this happen but I started to get all choked up and ...started to tear up a little. The music and art style (It brings back memories of courage the cowardly dog lol my favorite homie in cartoon network 🕶️🤏). If this was a show, I'd watch it no 🧢 cap. You need to get this out there, I wanna see this as a show bc man...it has a way of making you feel.

    • @franciscobenetmolero
      @franciscobenetmolero 2 роки тому +1

      I felt it with Wolfwalkers, I usually move through nature and this movie makes me cry for everything... I was pleasantly moved... I don't know how to describe it but it's a sob when I see Wolfwalker's art from Cartoon Saloon.

  • @cramerfloro5936
    @cramerfloro5936 4 роки тому +5

    I was reading the comic "Somewhere in the '00s recently, and I was reminded of this beautiful gem

  • @Kunpyon
    @Kunpyon 5 років тому +4

    I love how cartoon saloon has animations that touch on darker subjects , but always very colorfully appealing

  • @cobaki5894
    @cobaki5894 5 років тому +3

    This hits like something else.

  • @MrMaxRex1
    @MrMaxRex1 9 років тому +17

    Боже мой! I love The Secret Of Kells and Song of the Sea. They beautiful! But now i see Old Fangs, I saw it a long time ago and now found it here, heh, this is just fate)

  • @roseroserosierose
    @roseroserosierose 2 роки тому

    everything about this is amazing, the artstyle, the animation, the sound design, the music.

  • @eliasbrook8991
    @eliasbrook8991 9 років тому +43

    That was REALLY creepy for being Cartoon Saloon... o.o NOTHING short of amazing, though!

    • @THEKIDWITHAKNIFE
      @THEKIDWITHAKNIFE 8 років тому

      have you seen from darkness? that was cartoon saloon too.

    • @eliasbrook8991
      @eliasbrook8991 8 років тому

      Oh yeah, that was actually a pretty good one!

  • @evi99k65
    @evi99k65 4 роки тому +5

    I wasn't prepared for this..💔

  • @solangegriffin5894
    @solangegriffin5894 6 років тому +3

    Poor Fang to miss his family so much 💕.
    I really feel so sorry for him 💖.

  • @bluebird6561
    @bluebird6561 8 років тому +2

    This is amazing, the the film tells by itself, awesome art stile, characters, background music, and I love how the film suspense makes you want to know more. :)

  • @weirdbeardshow
    @weirdbeardshow 11 років тому +1

    A poignant journey!!!!!! I was totally immersed in the scenery and the central conflict. Suspenseful and raw.

  • @franciscobenetmolero
    @franciscobenetmolero 2 роки тому +1

    Intense, expressive story .. soundtrack & pass a ten ...art that there to see and follow Cartoon Salon

  • @franklinrichards9869
    @franklinrichards9869 3 роки тому

    Better than most major motion pictures released today! I love this, it's so beautiful! I love you people at Cartoon Saloon.

  • @ColdBrewThyCoffee
    @ColdBrewThyCoffee 9 років тому +4

    loved the animation style and I really enjoy this abstract story format... great work guys!!
    I need to watch Song Of The Sea some day.

  • @alexandrkulikov4196
    @alexandrkulikov4196 3 роки тому

    it's just incredible! almost better than full-length pictures

  • @ilkhasanchez3025
    @ilkhasanchez3025 9 років тому

    I have no words for this!!
    Is such an fantastic art; that couldn't be explained with words; -is art, by it you feel something, and its amazing-.

  • @cheerio1700
    @cheerio1700 2 роки тому

    I still find this animation and story as beautiful as ever

  • @bluh.6652
    @bluh.6652 3 роки тому +1

    i started crying

  • @redwolves234
    @redwolves234 3 роки тому +1

    7 years ago?!? How am I just now seeing this?

  • @altheaalazas306
    @altheaalazas306 Рік тому

    i remember stumbling upon this video when i was younger and it giving me nightmares, then never being able to find it again afterwards! didn't know it was produced by cartoon saloon

  • @maintheme6761
    @maintheme6761 Рік тому

    So glad i discovered this film

  • @ashdrawsies
    @ashdrawsies 9 років тому +2

    Amazing abstracted textures for the background/objects. I like the character designs and recon they should be featured on an animated episode of some kind (The story of the wolf growing up to a stronger person compared to his dad, and key themes such as: child abuse, conflict and peace *nug,nug*).

  • @theberrby6836
    @theberrby6836 6 років тому +2

    This was so beautiful, and interesting.

  • @MilkDestroyer
    @MilkDestroyer 11 років тому +3

    Oh my, the animation was so... Beautiful :)

  • @bongholio82
    @bongholio82 5 років тому +2

    I still have the video for Elder "III" that uses this as a video, despite it being removed from youtube several times.

  • @냥냐-y1e
    @냥냐-y1e 5 років тому

    이런 분위기 너무 흥미로워요.불안한 요소가 가득한데도 묘하게 편하네요

  • @BuddyLeafReed
    @BuddyLeafReed 2 роки тому

    I have a download version where at 1:49 the screen stays black until 2:23 and in the audio there is what sounds like crying until the screen go back to normal

  • @debosmitamondol5715
    @debosmitamondol5715 6 років тому +8

    Why does this remind me of Oyasumi Punpun?
    However, the story delivered is so beautiful and impactful. The visuals were an eye candy to behold.

  • @cherishaaliyah5376
    @cherishaaliyah5376 8 років тому +1

    I watched this in class and I loved it

  • @malikmohamed5613
    @malikmohamed5613 6 років тому +1

    I LOVE IT...JUST BEUTIFULLY DONE...

  • @Skarloey-vs9qj
    @Skarloey-vs9qj 9 років тому +1

    Beautiful

  • @xisla9946
    @xisla9946 Рік тому

    I used to watch this whenever it was aired on the channel i.sat. That wolf still creeps me out.

  • @solangegriffin5894
    @solangegriffin5894 6 років тому +2

    I really like it so much because I really think that it looked very interesting and very fascinating animation show video in the whole world as always 🌟.

  • @kitwing2904
    @kitwing2904 2 роки тому

    It's gorgeous

  • @rumplstiltztinkerstein
    @rumplstiltztinkerstein 8 років тому +74

    His dad watched this video. He didn't like his personal life being shown. (That 1 dislike)

  • @elilope7992
    @elilope7992 3 роки тому +1

    It reminds me of night in the woods.

  • @reptile1677
    @reptile1677 4 роки тому +6

    Does the the dad remind anyone else of “theres a man in the woods”

  • @melil0ups
    @melil0ups 7 років тому +2

    How disturbingling cool.

  • @oramai673
    @oramai673 4 роки тому +1

    Столь чудесная анимация существует на Ютуб уже более 7 лет, вот только попалась в рекомендациях она только сейчас :0

  • @Vidrolotsiy
    @Vidrolotsiy 2 роки тому +2

    Просьба к авторам: добавьте, пожалуйста, русские субтитры или перевод. Мы тоже хотим понимать, о чём идёт речь в мультфильме!:)

  • @GoddoDoggo
    @GoddoDoggo 8 років тому +11

    I find this weirdly similar to the upcoming game Night in the Woods. Maybe they got some inspiration from this?

  • @pheebian2323
    @pheebian2323 4 роки тому

    I absolutely love it

  • @ellarue3753
    @ellarue3753 7 років тому +5

    Wow, this film is beautiful! The story was also intriguing! You know what the art style reminds me of? The 2017 video game night in the woods, do u think the night in the woods art style was at all influenced by this?

    • @autumnwoodfall4471
      @autumnwoodfall4471 7 років тому

      Ella Rue :3 I was thinking that too! They do have the same "atmosphere"

    • @foolishgoon
      @foolishgoon 6 років тому

      well considering this short film was released in 2009, maybe into the woods took inspiration from this.......

  • @edmondefassola2783
    @edmondefassola2783 3 роки тому

    BREATHTAKING

  • @tristonperry2378
    @tristonperry2378 4 роки тому +6

    So is this signifying a kid who was abused by his father and went back to make amends with him?

  • @spencerfrankclayton4348
    @spencerfrankclayton4348 4 роки тому +6

    4:42 That looks really creepy.

  • @isabuckles
    @isabuckles 3 роки тому +1

    I don't think the father's character design could've been any better.

  • @penand_paper6661
    @penand_paper6661 8 років тому +10

    Can someone please explain this to me?

    • @iplop
      @iplop 8 років тому +69

      The young fox's mother fled with him when he was young. The house in the clearing is the home where the young fox grew up. The young fox is visiting his father who he hasn't seen since he and his mother fled.
      His father has a very traditional and rigid view on social roles. When the father speaks with the child (now an adolescent/young adult), he wishes to relate with his son but feels unable to do so within his ingrained social/familial framework. As a result, the father is angered and tries to shoehorn his son into a role which he can relate with. This ends in failure and the son leaves, feeling confused and dejected.
      The short film clip of the cut off tree branch at this point symbolizes both a cut off member of the family tree and a festering wound (their relationship).
      The clip at the end depicts a father who is trapped within his narrow belief framework; unable to openly express his sadness at the result.
      In this film, the father is as much of a victim of society/his upbringing as the son.

    • @nephocampus
      @nephocampus 7 років тому +3

      Are they even a fox? I mean one of his friends is but I don't know about him.

    • @iplop
      @iplop 7 років тому +16

      Good point. In retrospect, they're probably wolves not foxes.

    • @nephocampus
      @nephocampus 7 років тому +1

      Yeah, but I expect the fox's snout to be pointy, not the wolves as you can see and compare... but yeah other than that it makes much more sense that they're wolves.

    • @CountDVB
      @CountDVB 5 років тому +4

      @@iplop Given how the father wolf was in a suit, I am guessing he probably mvoed his family for a more "natural" way of lfe, but it led to problems

  • @chanice0085
    @chanice0085 9 років тому +3

    Amazing bit didnt really get the plot, could someone explain it to me? 😊😅

    • @deadlizardsmith3963
      @deadlizardsmith3963 9 років тому +3

      Chanice 00 seems like mother and child deserted an abusive father years before

    • @CountDVB
      @CountDVB 5 років тому +3

      A college-aged wolf revisits his father he hadn't seen as a kid. A photo indicates they were once a normal family untilt he father got them to move over to the strange house in the woods. My guess the father wolf tried to impose a more "natural" way to live, teaching his son how to hunt and forage while also getting deer. My guess is that it led to a rift between his parents

  • @wildwolfwitch8226
    @wildwolfwitch8226 3 роки тому +1

    Send this video to your absent father with no context.

  • @CoolCaramel8
    @CoolCaramel8 3 роки тому +1

    First thing I though was: wait they have four eyes? 0:56

  • @avidredpajamaboy
    @avidredpajamaboy 7 місяців тому

    The animation kinda looks alot like "Summer Camp Island" but it looks really beautiful!

  • @Orlandina31
    @Orlandina31 7 років тому

    it is great, really great

  • @anjiezhao5959
    @anjiezhao5959 9 років тому

    Awesome~

  • @Cheesemoonh
    @Cheesemoonh 2 роки тому +1

    Why the long face?

  • @katherinetheawesom
    @katherinetheawesom 6 років тому +1

    beautiful trees

  • @timmydonohue5295
    @timmydonohue5295 5 років тому

    This is just like night in the woods.

  • @abel4r
    @abel4r 11 місяців тому

    ARTEEEEEEEEE PUROOOOO

  • @Brianna-eo8nu
    @Brianna-eo8nu 6 років тому +1

    I have watched both of the two short films directed by Alan Holly, this and Coda, and both left me speechless.

  • @katescott3802
    @katescott3802 4 роки тому

    This was posted like a few days before my brother was born

  • @shellman1yt816
    @shellman1yt816 4 роки тому

    That is amazing

  • @vazak11
    @vazak11 4 роки тому

    Woah!

  • @Awesomesupermario246
    @Awesomesupermario246 4 роки тому +1

    someone please explain what happened?? like im lost. is there a hidden meaning?

  • @stresstummyache4465
    @stresstummyache4465 6 років тому

    Song on the 0.50 min

  • @jillian6370
    @jillian6370 4 роки тому +2

    the animation is super similar to the nevermore games

  • @thevideogamehunger0134
    @thevideogamehunger0134 4 роки тому

    I never seen this. Could it be on netflix or hbo.

    • @thevideogamehunger0134
      @thevideogamehunger0134 4 роки тому

      🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔.

    • @thevideogamehunger0134
      @thevideogamehunger0134 4 роки тому

      Until now (Night of December 3rd 2020).