John Fante: The American Dostoevsky? Unraveling the Madness of ‘Ask the Dust’

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  • Episode 56: In the late '90s, I had dinner in New York with Bret Easton Ellis, most known the controversial novel ‘American Psycho’. Not only was he completely unlike the press’s portrayal of him, but he was helpful to me as a writer, recommending John Fante's ‘Ask the Dust’ and other books in the Bandini Quartet. The protagonist, Arturo Bandini, turns out to be Fante’s literary alter ego, an aspiring writer in 1930s L.A., immersed in artistic struggle, tortured love, and abject self-doubt. Fante's storytelling, described as "furiously egocentric" by the critic Janet Maslin, reminds me of an American Dostoevsky. The Bandini Quartet stands as a legit American classic.
    Books mentioned:
    Less Than Zero, by Bret Easton Ellis (1985)
    American Psycho, by Bret Easton Ellis (1991)
    The Bandini Quartet:
    Wait Until Spring Bandini, by John Fante, published by Black Sparrow Press (1936)
    The Road to Los Angeles, by John Fante, published by Black Sparrow Press (1938)
    Ask the Dusk, by John Fante, published by Black Sparrow Press (1939)
    Dreams from Bunker Hill, by John Fante, published by Black Sparrow Press (1982)
    The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck (1939)
    The Day of the Locust, by Nathanael West (1939)
    The Big Sleep, by Raymond Chandler (1939)
    The John Fante Reader, edited by Stephen Cooper, published by Ecco Press (2002)
    Notes from Underground, by Fyodor Dostoyevsky (1864)
    Crime and Punishment, by Fyodor Dostoyevsky (1866)
    Films mentioned:
    Chinatown, directed by Roman Polanski, screenplay by Robert Towne (1974)
    Ask the Dust, directed by Robert Towne (2006)
    A Sad Flower in the Sand, a documentary, directed by Jan Louter (2001): • John Fante - A Sad Flo...
    #johnfante #askthedust #bookreview

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  • @DismasM
    @DismasM 9 місяців тому +13

    Somehow I discovered Fante before I did Bukowski, about the same time Less Than Zero and Bright Lights were making such a splash in the early 80s. Thank goodness for old school independent bookstores that gave shelf space to such stuff. And imprints like Black Sparrow.

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  9 місяців тому +1

      I'd heard of Bukowski but hadn't read him when I discovered Fante. Black Sparrow was the best.

    • @words911
      @words911 2 місяці тому +1

      Road to Los Angeles is such a gem. Funny as hell.

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  2 дні тому

      @@words911 I remember loving them all! Thanks for the comment.

  • @marchowe1629
    @marchowe1629 2 дні тому +1

    You popped up again on my feed after I followed you several years ago. Sometimes the algorithm does good work. Really appreciate your insights - will spend time watching more of your videos. I always loved Fante's description of the Mexican waitress in Ask the Dust.

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  2 дні тому

      @@marchowe1629 Absolutely fantastic description, Marc. Very glad the algorithm brought you back.

  • @dsbau
    @dsbau 24 дні тому +1

    Nice. I read this when a friend recommended it. What I remember is the incredible, painful, honesty. It was almost confronting to read. Another thing was has portrait of LA in that era, it was so different, the way the economy worked was totally different and chronicled it in such an interesting way. Good work!

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  24 дні тому

      "Confronting to read." I like that!

  • @MikeKnittel-ve3wd
    @MikeKnittel-ve3wd 3 місяці тому +3

    Nice to have discovered this review of 'Ask the Dust'. Enjoyed it very much. Usually after I've acquired 50-60 books or so I sell them to the used bookstore. As a result I've bought 'Ask the Dust' maybe 10 times now, and it feels just as fresh and spry with each read. I don't think I've ever read a book with lines that feel so bouncy and alive. Pure magic, this book. And a great review here, John. I've subscribed and I'm looking forward to more.

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  3 місяці тому +1

      Bouncy and alive, that's a great way to describe his prose. Thanks for watching, man, and for your words of encouragement.

    • @MikeKnittel-ve3wd
      @MikeKnittel-ve3wd 3 місяці тому +1

      A quick aside: I had a short email correspondence with Dan Fante, John's son (also a writer, for those that don't know) a few years before he died. Lovely guy, very supportive. He wrote gritty, first person stuff. Kind of Bukowski'ish, but better in my view. He wrote a series of books about the adventures and misadventures of his alter ego (Bruno Dante), much like his father had with Bandini. Anyway, might make for interesting book reviews here, for what it's worth.

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  3 місяці тому +1

      @@MikeKnittel-ve3wd I had no idea, although I remember his son being very articulate in the documentary. His dad is a tough act to follow, for sure.

  • @verdehue6319
    @verdehue6319 9 місяців тому +4

    Thanks for the recommendation, you are a very captivating speaker!

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  9 місяців тому

      You're welcome for the review. And thanks for the encouragement.

  • @FiestaToros
    @FiestaToros 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for highlighting this sometime forgotten great writer that is John Fante and his masterpiece “Ask the dust”, for me a tough and great reading! beautiful this definition as the “American Dostoevskij”

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  9 місяців тому +1

      I'm impressed by how well-read you are in American (U.S.) literature.

  • @sojourn-gv4ue
    @sojourn-gv4ue 4 місяці тому +1

    Your descriptions of Fante and his writings were truly enriching...Much thanks! I will most definitely review your other ¨rants¨. A good day to you. ss

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  4 місяці тому

      Thanks for the comment, Sojourn. Love the tag name. Perfect for an inveterate reader.

  • @bjwnashe5589
    @bjwnashe5589 3 місяці тому +1

    I always thought Ellis seemed like a good person in interviews, and I like his books a lot. His literary taste strikes me as impeccable. The books he talks about are always fantastic. Ask the Dust is no exception. I enjoyed your discussion here.

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  3 місяці тому

      @@bjwnashe5589 I agree. Ellis has fantastic taste in books and films. Thanks for the comment, man!

  • @keithlongley362
    @keithlongley362 4 місяці тому +1

    I was going to go into a long spiel how much i love great books,but you summed it up for me perfectly. Dostoevsky,Cervantes, Tolstoy, Ayn Rand, Bukowski, to name but a few...and now John Fante.

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  4 місяці тому

      That is a list of some great names. And I, too, think Fante deserves to be on it. Thanks for watching, man!

  • @frizzyrascal1493
    @frizzyrascal1493 5 місяців тому +1

    One of my all time favorite novels. I can‘t wait to read more from Dante and old Buk‘. The writing is off the charts, I loved the book but you‘re right about the Marijuana stuff, however it’s totally possible to smoke yourself into craziness.

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  5 місяців тому

      I wonder if he made it marijuana because it was easier for the average reader at that time to assimilate and make sense of. Anyway, it's a very, very minor criticism.
      I appreciate the comment, man.

    • @frizzyrascal1493
      @frizzyrascal1493 5 місяців тому +1

      @@book_rants You‘d be right with your assessment, the scene where they buy drugs for two dollars is also hilarious to read. It was 1940, there was all kinds of propaganda going for the war and everything.

  • @leafyconcern
    @leafyconcern 5 місяців тому +1

    Currently reading "Ask The Dust." Liking it so far. I'm gonna finish it today, probably. Then I plan to make a video. This suggestion that he could be Dostoevskian will be fun to think about as I finish the book.

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  5 місяців тому

      Once you make the video, please add it to the comments here. I would be interested in seeing it.

  • @larrycarr4562
    @larrycarr4562 9 місяців тому +1

    Great review… need to add this to the to read list. Thanks!

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  9 місяців тому +1

      You'll love it, Larry. Also, it's a short book.

    • @larrycarr4562
      @larrycarr4562 9 місяців тому +1

      @@book_rants and special thanks to the link to Sad flower in the sand! No Celtics, I plan on viewing it tonight!

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  9 місяців тому

      I thought the doc got it right,@@larrycarr4562

    • @larrycarr4562
      @larrycarr4562 9 місяців тому +1

      Interesting the film was fund by a Dutch grant… very well done. I liked the interspersed dramatic narrative from Ask the Dust with the images of LA and the excellent interviews, particularly his stoic wife. Got a good sense of the angry, alienated and impassioned young Italian artist in LA … concluding with a blind, leg less man narrating his final book to his wife. Just wow!

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  9 місяців тому +1

      It would be wonderful to see in HD. That was my only problem with the doc. It's poor visual quality.

  • @scoon2117
    @scoon2117 2 місяці тому +1

    Awesome experience, do you still have your manuscript

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  2 місяці тому +1

      @@scoon2117 No, but I still have the long letter that he wrote me about it. I should do a short video about that one day.

    • @scoon2117
      @scoon2117 2 місяці тому

      @@book_rants absolutely.

  • @sarofeen
    @sarofeen 9 місяців тому +1

    Excellent.

  • @kurikeshgeorge
    @kurikeshgeorge 29 днів тому +2

    👍🏾 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  29 днів тому

      Thanks for the response, man. Appreciate it.

  • @wildweasel8564
    @wildweasel8564 Місяць тому +1

    The relationship between Arturo and Camilla it a tragedy.

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  Місяць тому

      Yes, it is!

    • @wildweasel8564
      @wildweasel8564 Місяць тому

      It never fails to amaze me that victims of oppression become the oppressors.

  • @scoon2117
    @scoon2117 2 місяці тому +1

    Also have you ever come across Kenneth Patchen?

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  2 місяці тому

      @@scoon2117 Vaguely. What work do you recommend by him?

    • @scoon2117
      @scoon2117 2 місяці тому

      @book_rants the Journal of Albion moonlight, or his collected poetry
      He's excellent, and invented the picture poem.

  • @readinsteadbyjake
    @readinsteadbyjake 4 місяці тому

    Ask the Dusk sounds like a beautiful novel, but unfortunately you spoiled too much of the story for me ever to pick it up now….no biggie

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  4 місяці тому +3

      Trust me, Jake. Fante is about the voice, not the story. It's how he tells the story, not what happens that makes it special.And, you could always read one of the other Arturo Bandini books. There are four, as I say in the video.

    • @readinsteadbyjake
      @readinsteadbyjake 4 місяці тому +1

      @@book_rants Thank you for your response. Tbh, pros had always been the least of things I look for in a novel. It mattered much less than other things like plot, characters, setting. But then I read All Quiet On The Western Front. And my opinion of pros changed dramatically. Now I appreciate it much more. I know that pros, and skilled wordsmiths are things that you champion. All that to say, I’m glad I found your channel!

  • @barflytom3273
    @barflytom3273 3 місяці тому +2

    the film sucks. good job. thank you.

    • @book_rants
      @book_rants  3 місяці тому +1

      @@barflytom3273 I suspected that it would suck. Thanks for the comment, man.